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Martin Luther King III
Welcome to My Legacy. I'm Martin Luther King III and together with my wife, Andrea Waters King, and our dear friends Mark and Craig Kilburger, we explore the personal journeys that shape extraordinary lives.
Jess Hilarious
Join us for heartfelt conversations with remarkable guests like David Oyelowo, Mel Robbins, Martin Sheen, Dr. Sanjay Gupta, and Billy Porter.
Martin Luther King III
Listen to my legacy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is my legacy.
Jess Hilarious
Yo, what up? It's your girl, Jess. Hilarious. And I think it's time to acknowledge that I'm not just a comedian. It's time to add uncertified therapist to my credentials. Because each and every Wednesday, I'm fixing your mess on Kathleen Reckless on the Black Effect Podcast Network. Got problems in your relationship? Come to me. Your best friend acting shady? Come to me. Thought you was the father but you not come to me. I can't promise I won't judge you, but I can guarantee that I will help you. Listen to carefully Reckless on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast, you.
Tisha Allen
Are cordially invited to the hottest party in professional sports. I'm Tisha Allen, former golf professional and the host of welcome to the Party, your newest obsession about the wonderful world that is women's golf. Featuring interviews with top players on tour, tips to help improve your swing, and and the craziest stories to come out of your friendly neighborhood country club. Welcome to the Party with Tisha Allen is an iHeart woman's fourth production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports Entertainment. Listen to welcome to the Party. That's P A R T E e on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Alec Baldwin
Hey, it's Alec Baldwin. This past season on my podcast, here's the thing, I spoke with more actors, musicians, policymakers, and so many other fascinating people like writer and actor Dan Aykroyd.
Unknown Writer
I love writing more than anything. You're left alone, you know, you do three hours in the morning, you write three hours in the afternoon. Go pick up a kid from school and write at night. And after nine hours, you come out with seven pages and then you're moving on.
Alec Baldwin
Listen to here's the thing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
Brooke and Jeffrey
Hey, you found us. It's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning on our second date podcast. Not like is that hard to find these days since we're charting on the top comedy charts every week on Spotify.
Alec Baldwin
You're welcome. Yeah, I go to bed every night and I just stream it on 5, 000 different laptops.
Brooke and Jeffrey
Oh, you're the one that's doing it.
Alec Baldwin
How?
Brooke and Jeffrey
We're getting there.
Alec Baldwin
I'm sorry, guys, but I'm tired of those ratings.
Brooke and Jeffrey
All right, hey, thanks for being here. And don't forget, we do have 45 more minutes of this painful show. If you can endure it over on our main feed, just go to Brooke and Jeffrey for that one. But right now, let' to what you came for. That's the second date.
Martin Luther King III
Yes, second date Update. Just doing this segment, we hear from couples who meet in all sorts of strange new ways.
Brooke and Jeffrey
Yeah, for sure.
Martin Luther King III
But this one is going to be particularly terrifying for one person in this room.
Brooke and Jeffrey
Jose always thinks he's the one that's going to be scared.
Martin Luther King III
Jose's fears are right today because apparently, according to this email, they met while doing one of Jose's absolute worst fears. Physical exercise.
Brooke and Jeffrey
You're going to say, like a roller coaster.
Martin Luther King III
Jose, let's try to keep the whimpers and begging for mommies to a minimum here as we talk to a guy named Vaughn about his first date. Vaughn, welcome to Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. How you doing?
Vaughn
Doing good. How about you?
Brooke and Jeffrey
Oh, man.
Martin Luther King III
Vaughn, doing good.
Brooke and Jeffrey
Yeah. I mean, what is this? You met a girl at a gym? Is that what he's getting to?
Vaughn
No, I participate in a run club. I don't know if you've ever done one of those before.
Alec Baldwin
Wow.
Brooke and Jeffrey
My husband's in a run club. Should I be concerned?
Alec Baldwin
That really is the worst club I could think of because mine would be like video game club where you sit and don't move.
Brooke and Jeffrey
Hey, they usually end at a bar.
Alec Baldwin
That's actually kind of fun, though.
Martin Luther King III
Okay, is this like an exercising club or a dating type of club?
Vaughn
It's kind of like a mix of both. If you're single, you wear black or something dark.
Martin Luther King III
Okay.
Vaughn
If you have a girlfriend or boyfriend, you wear a color.
Martin Luther King III
Okay. Brooke, what does your husband wear to his run club?
Brooke and Jeffrey
Well, he's going to be wearing an orange reflective vest after this report.
Alec Baldwin
He just wears a bunch of pineapple shoes.
Jess Hilarious
I don't know.
Martin Luther King III
Yeah, I don't know what that means.
Brooke and Jeffrey
Okay, how many people are in this club?
Vaughn
There had to have been at least 100 people. There's a bar.
Alec Baldwin
Oh, this is like a big event.
Brooke and Jeffrey
Okay, cool.
Vaughn
It's a crazy thing because there's a lot of hot chicks. There had to be at least like 56.
Alec Baldwin
And there's actually like hotties there.
Martin Luther King III
People who exercise can be good looking.
Brooke and Jeffrey
That's why Jose just made the.
Alec Baldwin
It is true.
Martin Luther King III
Jose's still not going to join a run club. How did it go?
Alec Baldwin
Me and my dad bod bros are fine.
Vaughn
Well, pretty good. That's how I met Tess.
Martin Luther King III
Tess? Okay.
Brooke and Jeffrey
Okay.
Vaughn
Yeah, she had really nice cast.
Brooke and Jeffrey
Ugh. She's like, I'd like to thank stairs. That's what I'd like to think.
Martin Luther King III
Well, the fact that you didn't get maced right there is a win in my book, so.
Brooke and Jeffrey
Oh, my God. I think it's such a good compliment.
Martin Luther King III
You were able to, like, get to know Tess a little bit there.
Vaughn
I did, and I got to see the deal. I got her number.
Brooke and Jeffrey
Oh, nice.
Martin Luther King III
You also have a different definition of sealing the deal with a girl. A lot of differences here, but good. I'm glad you got her phone number.
Brooke and Jeffrey
I think just the first deal.
Martin Luther King III
Maybe one of many deals.
Alec Baldwin
I think he, like, picked up an envelope.
Vaughn
Yeah.
Brooke and Jeffrey
Were you able to turn it into a date?
Vaughn
Yeah, we met up a few days later at a bar, and I had a great time.
Brooke and Jeffrey
Oh, you did?
Martin Luther King III
Okay, tell us about it. Yeah, give us the highlights.
Vaughn
All right, so I've been watching my diet lately, so I compiled this note card.
Brooke and Jeffrey
Note card.
Vaughn
I told her this is how many calories that we burned on our run.
Brooke and Jeffrey
What?
Vaughn
And now we had to gain it back on the menu.
Brooke and Jeffrey
Huh.
Martin Luther King III
Smart.
Alec Baldwin
I almost made that comment about burning calories.
Brooke and Jeffrey
No, no, no. Don't talk about calories ever with a woman. I don't think that's.
Martin Luther King III
I think he's just trying to be, like, fun and creative and playful with him.
Brooke and Jeffrey
I understand.
Martin Luther King III
Not be like, we need to count calories together.
Brooke and Jeffrey
That's how it comes off, though. It doesn't matter what his intention was. He also is using a note card. Like, don't you have, like, an. Okay.
Martin Luther King III
How did Tess react to the note card move?
Vaughn
She loved it, but.
Alec Baldwin
Whoa.
Martin Luther King III
Oh, yeah.
Brooke and Jeffrey
She's not calling you back, so.
Martin Luther King III
Yeah, I think that counts as a win.
Brooke and Jeffrey
Oh, my God.
Martin Luther King III
So you guys ordered a bunch of food together, right?
Vaughn
Yes.
Brooke and Jeffrey
Okay.
Alec Baldwin
You cheat me.
Brooke and Jeffrey
And then she guiltily ate it all.
Alec Baldwin
Cried. I'm kidding.
Brooke and Jeffrey
Yeah. No. What. What happened next?
Vaughn
Well, we just kind of hung out and grabbed some drinks and had a good time. And the place that we were at had some really cool tall shelves.
Brooke and Jeffrey
Tall shelves? Yeah, like, that you would put books on or something. What do you mean?
Vaughn
Yeah, yeah, it looked like you put books on it, but they had a bunch of mugs on it.
Martin Luther King III
Mugs A bunch of stuff.
Alec Baldwin
Stein's or something like.
Vaughn
Yeah, kind of like Stein's. And so these drunk dudes are by there. They're. I don't know why they're standing by there, but they're kind of hanging out and stumbling around there. And they actually bumped one of the shelves that was holding this really expensive looking one. Oh, God. It was about to come down and I saw that Tessa's right underneath it. And I made a quick movement, just pulled her out of the way. She got a little upset, but then crashed right behind her. The mug.
Alec Baldwin
Wow.
Martin Luther King III
Saved her life.
Alec Baldwin
That's the universe, dude. You were put in a situation to protect her and you did, bro. Good job.
Martin Luther King III
Was she grateful or was she upset by that?
Vaughn
Oh, after she saw what crashed behind her, then she realized, yeah, that would have been her.
Brooke and Jeffrey
Yeah. I mean, that's kind of wild.
Martin Luther King III
That's really.
Brooke and Jeffrey
Yeah.
Martin Luther King III
You must be thinking, I'm getting a kiss for sure.
Vaughn
Yeah, dude, you nailed it. It was like one of those kiss moments. It was. And she gave me one right on the cheek.
Brooke and Jeffrey
Oh, cute.
Alec Baldwin
But that's a hero kiss. Just make out and it's first date.
Brooke and Jeffrey
That's cute. I mean, it means that she's like somewhat attracted to you. Yeah, well, you know, that's the kiss.
Martin Luther King III
That my mom gave me when I graduated fifth grade.
Brooke and Jeffrey
My statement still stays true romantically.
Martin Luther King III
I don't want to look too much into it, but. So how long has it been since your bar date happened?
Alec Baldwin
Yeah.
Vaughn
Oh, man, that was like two weeks ago.
Brooke and Jeffrey
Oh, okay. So you've had a couple run clubs in there too, and you haven't seen her or heard from her at all?
Vaughn
Yeah, I went to one and didn't see her at the last one.
Alec Baldwin
But you have texted her?
Vaughn
Yeah, I gave her a couple messages. She hasn't replied back. I was kind of.
Brooke and Jeffrey
Did you send her another nutrients type table?
Vaughn
That's my problem.
Martin Luther King III
Is it possible that she didn't want to burn off all those calories that you gained together that night?
Jess Hilarious
Oh.
Brooke and Jeffrey
Oh, she liked him.
Martin Luther King III
Yeah. She wanted to hold on to them as a memory of your guys time together.
Alec Baldwin
Sorry, no more physical activity holding these cows in.
Brooke and Jeffrey
It's gonna be my new excuse for not exercising. I want to remember this meal.
Martin Luther King III
These are love cows.
Alec Baldwin
I worked out hard today.
Martin Luther King III
Anyway, let's come back. We're gonna give Tess a call for you and try and get you your second date update right after this second date update. It is rare on a first date where you get an opportunity to look like a Real superhero.
Brooke and Jeffrey
That's a good point, Jeff.
Martin Luther King III
But our listener Vaughn swooped in to save the day when a falling beer mug was careening straight towards the head of his date.
Brooke and Jeffrey
My goodness.
Martin Luther King III
And before it struck her, Vaughn reached out with his powerful arms and pulls her to safety as the mug shattered in the exact spot where she was standing.
Brooke and Jeffrey
Wow.
Martin Luther King III
I mean, that should automatically earn him five more dates.
Brooke and Jeffrey
Five? Wow, that's a lot. I was just thinking maybe that's a.
Martin Luther King III
That's the superhero fee.
Alec Baldwin
Oh, is that. That's why Superman always has dates.
Brooke and Jeffrey
Yeah, seriously.
Martin Luther King III
That's why he saves Lois Lane constantly joking me.
Brooke and Jeffrey
He's expecting something in return this whole time.
Martin Luther King III
Yeah, I think he's working for free.
Brooke and Jeffrey
Typical. But he exhausting.
Martin Luther King III
It's true. But Vaughn hasn't even been able to score one more date with Tess, which is right. He's reached out to us for help. But Vaughn, how did it feel to know that you had your Superman moment?
Vaughn
Oh, I felt like the man of the restaurant. You know, I was that guy.
Alec Baldwin
You're the star. You were him.
Brooke and Jeffrey
Did people applaud you? Were they asking for your autograph and shaking your hand as you walked out of the bar?
Vaughn
No. You'd be surprised, but there weren't many people watching.
Brooke and Jeffrey
Everyone's probably focused on the drunk guys who knocked it over.
Vaughn
Yeah.
Martin Luther King III
Next you just have to work on your laser eye vision and you're going to be set, dude. So call test for you right here and try and get you your second date update. You ready? Yeah, I'm down there right now.
Tess
Hello?
Martin Luther King III
Hey, is this Tess?
Tess
Yeah.
Brooke and Jeffrey
Sorry Tess to bother you.
Tess
Oh, who is this?
Martin Luther King III
We're a radio show. We're called Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning and we're really, really excited to talk to you about a date that you went on not too long ago. Yeah, it's with a guy named Vaughn.
Tess
Oh.
Martin Luther King III
That you met at Run Club.
Tess
Oh, yeah. Okay.
Martin Luther King III
Oh, that's a funny little chuckle.
Brooke and Jeffrey
I can't tell. That was a good laugh.
Alec Baldwin
Yeah, pretty neutral.
Martin Luther King III
But here's the cool thing you got. We know that you got to spend some one on one time with him at a fun bar that had cool shelves in it. We've heard.
Tess
Yeah, yeah, it was. It was fine. Yeah.
Brooke and Jeffrey
Laughing still.
Alec Baldwin
Is it a nervous laugh?
Brooke and Jeffrey
Yeah. Have you heard this segment before where we call people or.
Tess
No, actually. But yeah, we went to this bar.
Martin Luther King III
And like we know. We heard the story from Vaughn. We talked to him about it because he had a great time.
Brooke and Jeffrey
Yeah.
Martin Luther King III
And he's been wanting to see you again. Again. And the reason he reached out to us is to try and figure out if there's a reason why you haven't met up again.
Tess
Oh, great. Okay. Well, if you heard the story, then you pro. Do you know the part where, like, the mug fell off the shelf?
Brooke and Jeffrey
Oh, yes.
Martin Luther King III
Yeah, that's. That was like a. That was a pretty cool moment for him.
Brooke and Jeffrey
I mean, not for you, cuz you almost got hit by a mug. But pretty amazing that he saved you from it, right?
Tess
I thought it was so weird. It was just so extra. There was no need to do that. He, like.
Martin Luther King III
Wait, what?
Tess
It was just like, the whole place was covered in mugs. Like, on these shelves. He swooped in, like, in this weird split second to, like, save me from this mug. And, like, I. I was like, ew. Like, why?
Alec Baldwin
She said ew.
Martin Luther King III
Wait, he was stopping it from hitting you on the head?
Tess
Yeah, but I feel like I would have seen it, like, before it did. Like, he didn't need to go out of his way to be the savior you are.
Brooke and Jeffrey
But I thought he said you didn't see it till after it crashed right where you had been sitting.
Tess
I mean, it wasn't like, that high up. It wouldn't have, like, killed me or anything. It was just. It was so extra. And we had just gone out. I was. We were there, like, max. An hour at that point. Like, we hadn't spent any time together alone before that.
Martin Luther King III
I don't know if the time limit had. What's happening?
Brooke and Jeffrey
Maybe she needs to know her superheroes before they step in, you know? Listen, Batman, I don't know you yet, and you can tell me a little bit about your life. My bad friends stopped talking to you guys who are like, I'm gonna stand on this side of the road, like, when we're on a walk because it's safer for you there, like. And they get turned off by that.
Alec Baldwin
God, your friends.
Brooke and Jeffrey
Like, why is it awful?
Martin Luther King III
Okay, so you. You were saying you would have preferred that he stood back and just let you figure out if a mug was about to hit you or not and deal with it on your own?
Tess
Yeah, it just seemed like he was just, like, obsessed with me. So I just. I had this, like, major ick after that point.
Martin Luther King III
He's on a date with you, so he is probably paying attention.
Alec Baldwin
I don't know.
Brooke and Jeffrey
Major. So funny.
Martin Luther King III
I. I don't want you to get the feeling that he's, like, obsessed with you, always watching and trying to protect you or anything. At a certain point, I have to let you know that he is actually listening in on the conversation. Not in, like a Weir way. He just wanted to hear the reasoning.
Brooke and Jeffrey
Unless he was smart enough to hang up already.
Alec Baldwin
Yeah, act like you don't care, bro. Hang up right now.
Martin Luther King III
Are you there, Vaughn?
Vaughn
Yeah, I'm there.
Brooke and Jeffrey
Did you just say Alexis? Yeah, because of how it's going to go in a sec.
Martin Luther King III
Let's let them talk and maybe they can work something out. Go ahead, you two.
Vaughn
What am I going to do? Just let a heavy glass mug fall on your head and potentially give you a concussion?
Tess
I need to be very clear about, like, me as a person. I don't need you to step in for me, ever. And you doing that literally, like an hour into our date was very weird. I just, like, I can do things myself. I'm not an idiot.
Vaughn
Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry. As a man, I naturally have to be in the position to save people. And whether if you're a stranger or somebody I've met for an hour.
Brooke and Jeffrey
I back that.
Martin Luther King III
Okay, so if you two were, like, walking across the street, street together and there was a car coming at you, Tess, you want him to step back and just let nature take its course?
Tess
I think that I am not dumb enough to step out of the way.
Brooke and Jeffrey
I think what she's saying is that she doesn't want to be treated like a damsel in distress. Like, she wants to be treated like she can handle her own emergencies. Okay? Whether it's a car pummeling towards her or a mug falling from her shelf, let the girl do her.
Vaughn
So if this scenario plays out a second time, you don't want me to give you a heads up. Hey, look out.
Alec Baldwin
Like anything.
Martin Luther King III
Is that too aggressive?
Tess
Nothing that probably would have been less gross than you weeping in.
Alec Baldwin
I love how it's gross.
Tess
And like, it would depend what your tone was too. Like, if you were telling me like, I'm a child that can't fend for myself in the world, yeah, I'd probably be offended. But if you're telling me in a nice way, like, oh, heads up, like, just, I'm a normal, kind human, like.
Alec Baldwin
May I have a moment of your time?
Martin Luther King III
Pardon me? I think gravity.
Brooke and Jeffrey
I actually. I actually see what she's saying. I too, because you're in public at a bar, yelling at. That's another layer.
Alec Baldwin
You would be the worst person to take a moment.
Jess Hilarious
I'm just saying.
Brooke and Jeffrey
I. I'm just starting to get the ick from him too. That's all I'm saying. It reminds me when I'M driving with my husband, and he acts like I don't see the other cars on the road. And he's like, oh, my God. Literally, I know they're turning. Okay, I'm idiot.
Alec Baldwin
Okay, I know. Exactly.
Brooke and Jeffrey
That's a good example.
Martin Luther King III
Well, I think, if anything, Vaughn has definitely learned his lesson to not help you or look after you in any way.
Brooke and Jeffrey
Watch out.
Martin Luther King III
No, he can't say watch out. He has to be like, excuse me, but perhaps take a look at your surroundings.
Brooke and Jeffrey
Watch out. Just in a cool tone.
Martin Luther King III
Vaughn, you're capable of doing that, right?
Jess Hilarious
I'm.
Vaughn
I'm just really confused right now.
Martin Luther King III
Perfect. That's exactly where she wants you to be. So, with that said, we would like to offer to send you guys out on another date. And we would. I don't want to, like, be too aggressive in offering to pay for it or anything, so we just want to facilitate a meetup of some sort, Tess, if you're open to that.
Tess
I mean, like, I feel like I would, but the fact that you're still really confused is not. Like, I'm not understanding why you're so confused, because I just explained to you why.
Martin Luther King III
You may want to try to.
Alec Baldwin
Be mean right now. I think that's your last option.
Brooke and Jeffrey
Yeah. Do you have anything else to say to her?
Vaughn
Listen, Tess, I'll put it in words that you can understand.
Martin Luther King III
Oh, God.
Brooke and Jeffrey
It's a little condescending.
Martin Luther King III
I think anything that he says is condescending.
Brooke and Jeffrey
That's a little condescending.
Martin Luther King III
Okay, what do you want to say?
Vaughn
I'm sorry. What was that?
Martin Luther King III
I thought you had something that you were gonna say.
Brooke and Jeffrey
You had commanded the room like I did.
Alec Baldwin
I told you.
Brooke and Jeffrey
What did you want to say?
Vaughn
New phone. Who dis? No date. I'm good.
Brooke and Jeffrey
Oh, you're back now.
Alec Baldwin
It's probably better she's gonna say no anyway.
Martin Luther King III
Sounds like Vaughn just got hit in the head by a falling. All right, better luck next time.
Brooke and Jeffrey
Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
Martin Luther King III
Welcome to my legacy. I'm Martin Luther King iii, and together with my wife, Andrea Waters King, and our dear friends Mark and Craig Kilburger, we explore the personal journeys that shape extraordinary lives.
Jess Hilarious
Join us for heartfelt conversations with remarkable guests like David Oyelo, Mel Robbins, Martin Sheen, Dr. Sanjay Gupta, and Billy Porter.
Martin Luther King III
Listen to my legacy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is my legacy.
Jess Hilarious
Yo, what up? It's your girl Jess. Hilarious. And I think it's time to acknowledge that I'm not just a comedian. It's time to add uncertified therapists to my credentials because each and every Wednesday I'm fixing your mess on Carefully Reckless on the Black Effect Podcast Network Got problems in your relationship? Come to me. Your best friend acting shady, come to me. Thought you was the father but you not come to me. I can't promise I won't judge you, but I can guarantee that I will help you. Listen to carefully Reckless on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast, you.
Tisha Allen
Are cordially invited to the hottest party in professional sports. I'm Tisha Allen, former golf professional and the host of welcome to the Party, your newest obsession about the wonderful world that is women's golf. Featuring interviews with top players on tour, tips to help improve your swing, and the craziest stories to come out of your friendly neighborhood country club. Welcome to the Party with Tisha Allen is an iHeart women's sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. Listen to welcome to the Party that's P A R T E e on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Alec Baldwin
Hey, it's Alec Baldwin. This past season on my podcast, here's the thing. I spoke with more actors, musicians, policymakers, and so many other fascinating people like writer and actor Dan Aykroyd.
Unknown Writer
I love writing more than anything. You're left alone, you know, you do three hours in the morning, you write three hours in the afternoon, Go pick up a kid from school, then write at night and after nine hours you come out with seven pages and then you're moving on.
Alec Baldwin
Listen to here's the thing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Podcast Title: Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Episode: Second Date Update Classic: I Got the Ick
Release Date: February 15, 2025
Host/Author: iHeartPodcasts
In the episode titled "Second Date Update Classic: I Got the Ick", hosts Brooke and Jeffrey delve into the intricacies of modern dating, focusing on the perplexing phenomenon known as "getting the ick." This episode explores a real-life scenario where a first date takes an unexpected turn, leading to confusion and unmet expectations. The narrative centers around Vaughn and Tess, whose initial connection at a run club is marred by an overzealous act of heroism that ultimately creates a rift between them.
[02:20] Brooke and Jeffrey:
"Hey, you found us. It's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning on our second date podcast. Not like is that hard to find these days since we're charting on the top comedy charts every week on Spotify."
Brooke and Jeffrey introduce the episode by highlighting the challenges of navigating second dates in today's dating landscape. They set the tone for an engaging discussion about the highs and lows of trying to secure a second encounter after an initial meeting.
[03:03] Martin Luther King III:
"But this one is going to be particularly terrifying for one person in this room."
The hosts introduce Vaughn’s story, where his first date with Tess at a run club proceeds with a mix of athleticism and social interaction. However, the date takes a dramatic turn when Vaughn performs an almost superhero-like act to save Tess from a potentially dangerous falling mug.
[07:00] Vaughn:
"Well, pretty good. That's how I met Tess."
[07:54] Vaughn:
"We just kind of hung out and grabbed some drinks and had a good time. And the place that we were at had some really cool tall shelves..."
Vaughn recounts the evening, detailing how the setting—a bar with extensive mug displays—played a pivotal role in the unfolding events. As intoxicated patrons cause a shelf to topple, Vaughn springs into action to protect Tess from a crashing mug.
[07:15] Vaughn:
"...and so these drunk dudes are by there. They were stumbling around... and they actually bumped one of the shelves that was holding this really expensive looking one. I saw that Tess was right underneath it and I made a quick movement, just pulled her out of the way."
[09:00] Vaughn:
"...and the place that we were at had some really cool tall shelves... I made a quick movement, just pulled her out of the way. She got a little upset, but then crashed right behind her."
The act, while intended as a protective gesture, inadvertently makes Tess uncomfortable, as she perceives Vaughn’s intervention as excessive and unnecessary.
[14:32] Tess:
"I had this, like, major ick after that point."
Tess expresses her discomfort with Vaughn's over-the-top protective behavior, which she found to be more unsettling than endearing. The term "the ick" is used to describe her sudden aversion to Vaughn following the incident.
[16:13] Brooke and Jeffrey:
"I think what she's saying is that she doesn't want to be treated like a damsel in distress. Like, she wants to be treated like she can handle her own emergencies."
Brooke and Jeffrey analyze Tess’s reaction, emphasizing the importance of balance between showing care and respecting personal autonomy in budding relationships.
[17:05] Brooke and Jeffrey:
"I actually see what she's saying. I too, because you're in public at a bar, yelling at... That's another layer."
Vaughn attempts to reconcile with Tess by reaching out through the podcast, seeking closure or another chance to date. However, Tess remains unimpressed and reiterates her desire for independence and self-reliance.
[18:08] Tess:
"I mean, like, I feel like I would, but the fact that you're still really confused is not... I just explained to you why."
Despite Brooke and Jeffrey's intervention, Tess remains steadfast in her decision not to pursue a second date, highlighting the complexities of interpreting actions and intentions in dating scenarios.
[17:38] Brooke and Jeffrey:
"Watch out."
The hosts wrap up the episode by reflecting on the importance of understanding and respecting boundaries in dating. Vaughn’s experience serves as a cautionary tale about the potential pitfalls of overstepping personal limits in the pursuit of romance.
[19:05] Brooke and Jeffrey:
"Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning."
The episode concludes with Brooke and Jeffrey reiterating their mission to help listeners navigate the often tumultuous waters of dating, emphasizing empathy, communication, and self-awareness as key components of successful relationships.
Vaughn on Meeting Tess:
[05:07] Vaughn: "Yeah, she had a really nice cast."
Tess on the Mug Incident:
[13:04] Tess: "It was just so extra. There was no need to do that."
Brooke and Jeffrey’s Analysis:
[16:28] Brooke and Jeffrey: "I think what she's saying is that she doesn't want to be treated like a damsel in distress."
Final Reflection:
[17:38] Brooke and Jeffrey: "Watch out."
"Second Date Update Classic: I Got the Ick" offers listeners a humorous yet insightful examination of dating mishaps and the delicate balance of showing care without overstepping. Through Vaughn and Tess's story, Brooke and Jeffrey underscore the significance of mutual respect and understanding in building meaningful connections. The episode serves as both entertainment and a learning experience for anyone navigating the modern dating scene.
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