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Brooke
Quoting 30 year old movies? Have you said cool beans in the past 90 days? Do you think Discover isn't widely accepted? If this sounds like you, you're stuck in the past. Discover is accepted at 99% of places that take credit cards nationwide and every time you make a purchase with your card you automatically earn cash back. Welcome to the now it pays to Discover. Learn more@discover.com credit card based on the February 2024 Nielsen report second date update I saw something on Instagram recently. That basically sums up what I think a lot of our listeners are feeling with the online dating apps. It was a guy who says, I think my favorite part of online dating is when you match with someone and you're talking and it's going great, and three weeks later, someone somewhere loses interest and you just never talk to them again. And you just keep doing that over and over and over until you're 90 and you're single and you die alone.
Jose
It's so true.
Zoe
Wow, what a romantic.
Brooke
Look, Brooke, aren't you upset that you got married and missed the peak era of dating apps?
Zoe
Why did I do that?
Brooke
Well, we have a guy on the phone who says he also has become pretty frustrated with the online dating experience. His name is Stuff. So, Stephen, welcome to the show, man.
Stephen
How you doing?
Zoe
Yo, you sound down.
Stephen
Yeah, I am pretty down.
Brooke
Yeah, buddy probably just closed his Tinder app right now before he got on. So it's not going so well for you, huh?
Stephen
No, I mean, I just can't beat anybody.
Brooke
Yeah.
Stephen
Honestly, I was so tired. I did something pretty desperate recently and that's kind of why I called.
Jose
Oh, oh, you did something desperate?
Brooke
We like desperate on the show. What did you do?
Stephen
Well, I saw an ad online. It said soulmate Psychic.
Jose
Oh, that's a good catchy phrase.
Brooke
What does that mean?
Stephen
For $50, the person was able to draw your soulmate for you.
Jose
Draw?
Brooke
Oh, that, Like a. A sketch of them.
Jose
That's actually great because then you can see. Like when you see them in real life, then you know.
Alexis
Why do I feel like they stalk your social media and then draw your ex?
Jose
That would be so weird.
Brooke
All. But you're right, Jose. If you see them out in the world, you could just hold up this photo and be like, see, we're soulmates.
Jose
No, don't bring the photo around with you. You just know in your head.
Zoe
Okay, wait, wait, wait. You all believe that someone can do this?
Jose
Well, if it's a psychic, yeah.
Brooke
Brooke. Yeah.
Zoe
Okay, I'm going to go with sure.
Brooke
Brooke already doesn't believe in your soulmate before she even knows anything about it.
Zoe
It doesn't sound like he believes in it either.
Brooke
Well, hold. We don't even know what the story is. So you actually signed up and did this?
Stephen
I did this. Twenty minutes later, I get the sketch email to me.
Zoe
Oh, it's just. Even over it's online.
Stephen
No, no, it was a phone conversation.
Brooke
Oh, okay.
Jose
Talk to her and then she draws, right?
Zoe
What kind of questions did she ask you?
Stephen
Well, she was Asking me my interests. She was asking me, you know, but.
Brooke
She'S not asking for a physical description of your perfect woman. She's trying to get to know you.
Stephen
Yeah, exactly.
Jose
Okay, she's asking you about you, but then she's drawing the lady of your soul.
Brooke
What did you think of the picture?
Stephen
So she's very pretty.
Brooke
That's good.
Zoe
Shocking. She didn't draw an ugly person. That is so weird.
Brooke
Well, that's very lucky for him. I'm sure she draws a lot of ugly people for other people, but. What did you do with the photo?
Stephen
I put it on my refrigerator.
Brooke
Oh, okay.
Zoe
Okay.
Stephen
I didn't know what to do with it.
Zoe
Yeah, I mean, you could put it on your dating app and say, this is what I'm looking for.
Brooke
Yeah, right now you're thinking, brooke.
Jose
Okay, you fill in the crack for me.
Brooke
Well, did anything come of it?
Stephen
So, like, a month later, I'm at this wedding, and I see a woman there that's like. She looks exactly like the picture.
Jose
No way.
Brooke
Really?
Stephen
Yeah.
Brooke
What'd you do?
Stephen
Well, first I try not to freak out. I'm like, oh, my God.
Brooke
Yeah, well, now you must feel the pressure on you. So what do you do?
Stephen
So I build up enough confidence, and I go over there and I ask her to dance.
Brooke
Oh, Brooke, why aren't you awing yet? This is happening.
Zoe
Yes. Yes. I am excited for you.
Brooke
And what did she say when you asked her to dance?
Stephen
She said yes. So we're dancing.
Brooke
Oh, my God. It's happening. So now you've opened the door for true love to step through. But the big question is, did you tell her about the soulmate photo that was sent to you?
Stephen
Well, I told her I have a surprise for you.
Zoe
Oh, no.
Brooke
Oh, no.
Jose
Oh, my.
Brooke
You're gonna show her?
Zoe
What do you mean you told her that?
Jose
Sketchy.
Stephen
I just couldn't hold it in. It's too weird. It's too coincidental.
Zoe
Wait, so that night, we're still at the wedding reception, and you're gonna pull out the picture on your phone?
Stephen
No, I know. I didn't even have a copy of it, honestly.
Zoe
Oh, good.
Stephen
I was like, I'll text it to you. I told her I'll text it.
Jose
What was her reaction, though? Did she laugh?
Brooke
I want to know what the caption was when you texted the photo.
Stephen
The caption was, isn't this crazy? This looks just like you.
Zoe
Okay.
Brooke
Oh, my God.
Zoe
How long does it take her to respond to your text?
Brooke
Is it bad?
Alexis
My first reaction is, I have a stalker.
Jose
Yeah.
Brooke
Or are you still waiting for a reply?
Stephen
Oh, yeah, she responded. She's like, wow, that's crazy. But then it was kind of a different vibe from then on. She, like. I could tell something changed now and she wasn't as into me.
Brooke
Oh, no.
Jose
Maybe you have Android, because that happens, and you sent it and it got blurry. Oh, that's Brooke.
Brooke
I sent you Green bubble.
Zoe
She knows. I don't think that was it.
Brooke
Yeah. Okay, so looking back on the events that unfolded, do you feel like maybe you shouldn't have sent her the picture?
Stephen
Maybe.
Zoe
Yeah. He should have just brought her back to his apartment so she could have seen it on the fridge herself.
Brooke
So at this point, where are you at now?
Stephen
I mean, what are you gonna do? She woke it back to me. Really? I had to move on from there.
Jose
Yeah. Don't do what other guys do. Okay, Keep texting.
Brooke
So did you call the psychic lady again and get. Have a new picture drawn up or.
Stephen
I'm kind of just back on the apps. I'm like, you know, I'm thinking maybe I need to find someone older.
Jose
But you found her.
Zoe
So. Wait, wait, wait. Are we gonna call this girl for you?
Stephen
I mean. Yeah, it's now. Because it's been a couple months. I need answers here.
Jose
Yeah, I mean, you need closure, man.
Stephen
I know I. Anyone would. I need closure.
Jose
Absol.
Brooke
Okay, from what?
Jose
He met his soulmate, Brooke, and she's ghosting him.
Zoe
Dance for three. Okay.
Jose
The best three songs of his life.
Zoe
I feel like we're trying to force something here, but I'll be on board.
Jose
Let's say she'll give us answers.
Zoe
Yeah.
Brooke
Did we ever get the girl's name, by the way?
Stephen
Her name is Zoe.
Brooke
Okay.
Zoe
Zoe the soul.
Brooke
Well, we're gonna come back and call your soulmate, Zoe and try and get you your second date update. Right after this second date update. You believe in love at first sight?
Jose
Yes, Jeff.
Brooke
What about.
Jose
I haven't seen her yet.
Brooke
Okay, so yes, from Jose and from the girls. What about love at first sketch? No, because months ago, one of our listeners, Stephen, paid a professional psychic to draw him a photo of his future soulmate before he's ever met her. He hung it up on his fridge. And wouldn't you know, just a short while later, he ends up meeting a woman who looks just like that photo when he was at a wedding. Her name was Zoe, and they danced and got to know each other. Everything was on the up and up until he got home and texted her the soulmate sketch picture. Yeah, she really Cooled off after that. It got me thinking, though. Like, how could we help him when we get her on the phone? And maybe we could say that he drew the picture after he met you, just from memory. He's a really good artist. That. It's not like a soulmate thing.
Zoe
I. I think he just apologizes and says, I didn't.
Brooke
Yeah, that's your answer to everything. The man should apologize for what he did.
Jose
Oh, yeah, maybe.
Alexis
If it's a good photo, it has to be flattering.
Zoe
It works. I mean, you can't lie. Like, how long is he going to keep up that he's a good artist?
Alexis
Yeah.
Brooke
You know, it just came to him in a moment of inspiration, you could say.
Jose
That's the point. I'm not an artist. It was the heavens that just guided my hand.
Brooke
Exactly.
Zoe
Fine. Go with it.
Brooke
Sadly, though, Steven is back on the dating apps now, looking for older women and long distance stuff. Whatever he can get. Because he's so dejected.
Zoe
Let's not say that, but we won't bring that up.
Brooke
I'm just saying his mind is still wondering, though. What about my soulmate, Zoe? Isn't that right, Stephen?
Stephen
It's true.
Brooke
You've never forgotten about her.
Stephen
Well, I didn't forget because it wasn't that long ago.
Zoe
Yeah, but still, a couple months, she could be in a relationship already.
Jose
Yeah, that's.
Zoe
You know.
Stephen
Yeah.
Brooke
Well, I'm glad that we're going in with the positive attitude. Sorry about that.
Jose
I promise I will keep trying to be positive.
Brooke
Nobody in this room is going to believe in love except for me and Jose. So we're going to do our best. Let's call Zoe and see what she has to say.
Zoe
The weight of love on your shoulders. It must be hard.
Brooke
It. It's difficult. Here we go.
Zoe
Hello?
Brooke
Two rings. She answered. I knew it. Zoe, thank you for answering the phone right now. This is Zoe, right?
Zoe
Yes.
Brooke
Okay.
Zoe
Did you know that, too?
Brooke
That was luck on that one. But, Zoe, you're on the radio right now with a show called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning.
Zoe
Oh.
Brooke
How you doing?
Zoe
I mean, I'm. I'm okay.
Okay.
Yeah. Why am I being called right now?
Brooke
Oh, well, some might say it's fate that brought us to you today, but others would just say it's one of our listeners named Steven who asked us to call you.
Zoe
No, no, thank you.
Brooke
No, wait, hold on.
Zoe
Do you remember Stephen?
No, I'm not. No.
Brooke
Wow, guys, that picture really worked.
Zoe
Okay.
Jose
Yeah, well.
Brooke
So, Zoe. Well, we're doing a segment here called the Second date update, where we're trying to help Stephen get in touch with you again because it's been a while since you've chatted. Since the wedding.
Zoe
Yeah, no, I. There's a reason why we haven't chatted.
Okay.
Brooke
Okay.
Zoe
Well, do you want to tell us? I mean, it seems like it's very clear why you're not calling him.
Jose
I mean, maybe to you it's clear. To him it's not.
Brooke
We don't. We don't know what you're thinking.
Zoe
Yeah, I don't think it's clear to him that I'm not really up for him wanting to date my mom, so.
What?
Alexis
Wait.
Jose
Yeah, that came out of nowhere.
Zoe
Did he hit on your mom at the wedding reception or something?
As far as I know, he hasn't met my mom, but I don't know if he told you guys.
Brooke
Hold on. This is a lot. What we know is that you guys met at a wedding. You guys danced and had a good time.
Jose
Yeah.
Brooke
After the wedding, he texted you a photo that looked a lot like you, and then.
Zoe
And we thought that was the reason.
Brooke
Yeah.
Zoe
Calling it back. That it freaked you out.
Yeah, well, I mean, that was creepy anyway, but.
So where does your mom come into play? Here?
Brooke
Yeah.
Jose
That's weird. Weird.
Zoe
Yeah. So at the wedding, he said he was surprised that I was single because he thought I was pretty. Whatever. And. Yeah, and I was like, oh, yeah, it's crazy. Even my mom's dating. She's on the apps. Whatever. I just laughed about it.
Yeah.
And he texted me that photo. Whatever. But after that, my mom matched with him on one of the apps.
Brooke
Oh, my God. Really?
Alexis
Wait, your mom tells you her matches?
Zoe
Oh, yeah. I mean, my mom and I are fairly close, and she showed me who she matched with.
Brooke
Are you thinking that he went and, like, matched with her on purpose?
Zoe
I don't know that it matters. Probably.
Jose
Yeah.
Zoe
Yeah.
I don't even care how it happened. It's just the fact that it happened.
Brooke
Yeah.
Jose
Yeah, that's a great point, Brooke.
Brooke
Okay, well, we don't know everything about how stuff happened the way that it happened. The only person who has the answers to that would be Steven.
Zoe
Yeah, he may not even know.
Brooke
Yeah, because he didn't mention anything like this when we talked to him. But he is on the other line right now waiting to speak with you, Zoe.
Zoe
What? Why? What?
Brooke
That's how the segment works. Stephen, are you there?
Stephen
This is awkward. Sorry.
Zoe
Yeah.
Did you know that you had matched with her mom?
Stephen
Yeah, I told you guys. I was like Back on the apps and working for maybe someone older.
Jose
Yeah, you said. Yeah, but you didn't say you match with her family members.
Brooke
You didn't say you went just one generation up.
Alexis
Also, why is your mom got that young of a dating pool? You should check herself. It's inspirational for the competition.
Zoe
Let mom live.
Brooke
Okay, so you two need to talk about this clearly.
Zoe
Dude, what is actually wrong with you? Like, you're gonna. You're gonna call the station and you're gonna tell them, like, you're trying to figure out what's wrong, but clearly what's wrong is you're trying to get with my mother after trying to get with me.
Jose
We didn't know.
Stephen
You. You weren't responding to me. You. You're being kind of cold. I didn't know what to do.
Zoe
Yeah, for good reason. Yeah, the first straw was you sending me that creepy picture anyway, so obviously I was going to be standoffish. And then my mom showed me her dating app with you on it.
Oh, wait. Have you been talking to her mother?
Stephen
We exchanged the messages.
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Brooke
Is a date going to happen between you and Zoe's mom? Is that on the books?
Stephen
Well, I didn't want to ruin things.
Brooke
With Zoe, and I. Oh, well, he's prioritizing you. Zoe.
Zoe
Did you send the mom the same picture you sent Zoe?
Stephen
I'm not gonna make that mistake again. No way.
Zoe
Okay.
Brooke
Okay.
Zoe
Stephen, I even showed her the picture that you sent her to me, and she still is into you, so you guys can just go have fun.
Jose
She's still into it, and she saw the picture.
Stephen
Wait, she said she's still into me?
Alexis
What?
Zoe
Yeah. Yeah, you go enjoy yourself.
Jose
Oh, guys, we did it. We found the soulmate.
Brooke
It's the mall.
Zoe
Oh, my God.
Jose
Why aren't you cheering with me?
Zoe
This is so weird.
Brooke
So you're saying you ship the relationship with your mom and Steven?
Zoe
I mean, I don't know what else I can do. I can't just tell my mom who she can and can't date. So, like, how am I supposed to talk to her about that?
Jose
Just leave it alone.
Zoe
So at this point, do we offer a double date or.
Brooke
I don't know. I mean, I'm gonna default to the love expert on the show. Alexis. What? What do you think that we should do in this situation?
Alexis
I mean, it's.
Zoe
I don't.
Alexis
I don't know.
Jose
She doesn't know.
Brooke
That's perfect. Great idea.
Alexis
Okay, I don't think Zoe wants to sit at dinner with either of them.
Brooke
So well, she probably should, because soon Stephen could be your stepdad. We have to be around a Thanksgiving table.
Alexis
You need to set boundaries with your mom if you got the same age range.
Brooke
Okay, there's got to be a div system. I mean, we. We would normally offer to send Stephen out with Zoe, but I guess Steven will offer to send you out with Zoe's mom.
Zoe
Insulting. I am sorry, Zoe.
Brooke
Why is that insulting? Because that'd be great.
Alexis
He says that'd be great.
Brooke
Zoe's already turned him down. He's a free agent. He can date whoever he wants.
Jose
Zoe, will you ask your mom for us, please?
Zoe
Yeah. No, forget all you guys. I'm sorry. This can't get any worse.
Yeah, actually, I'm actually worried that it can.
Brooke
Yeah. Is your grandma still alive? Because you never know.
Jose
Yes.
Brooke
Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Wow. Who knew 50 bucks on a soulmate psychic picture could work not once, but twice? Oh, talk about value. Getting your money's worth.
Zoe
I did not even think about that. It's actually 25 bucks per person. Yeah, at this point.
Brooke
That's great.
Zoe
You could call it a family deal.
Brooke
If you think about it, Zoe was just the breadcrumb that led Steven to his eventual destiny.
Jose
Love still prevails.
Alexis
The psychic picks big families so that this can happen.
Zoe
Yeah.
Jose
She's asking, how many siblings do you have?
Brooke
Here we go. I mean, what if. I know we're all skeptical, but what if they really are meant to be? Would that second date update update be the most anticipated one we ever did on this show?
Jose
Turn this into a movie. We will be a part of Hollywood.
Zoe
Have you guys not been following this? The Miley Cyrus family drama right now?
Jose
No.
Zoe
Oh, my God. Her mom, Tish, got married to a guy that her younger sister was dating. The whole thing is a hot mess. Those two aren't talking. It doesn't end well. I'm just telling you.
Brooke
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Episode: Second Date Update Classic: Soulmate Psychic
Release Date: February 22, 2025
Host/Author: iHeartPodcasts
In this compelling episode of Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update, hosts Brooke and Jeffrey delve into the intriguing story of Stephen, a listener who turned to a "soulmate psychic" service in a desperate bid to find love. The episode explores the intersections of technology, fate, and the complexities of online dating, providing both humor and heartfelt moments.
Timestamp: [02:25] - [10:38]
The episode centers around Stephen’s experience with a "soulmate psychic." Feeling disheartened by the challenges of online dating, Stephen decided to invest $50 in a service that would provide a sketch of his future soulmate. The psychic conducted a phone consultation, asking Stephen about his interests and preferences without requiring a physical description. Approximately twenty minutes later, Stephen received an email containing the sketch.
Notable Quote:
Stephen (05:15): "She's very pretty."
Stephen placed the sketch on his refrigerator, serving as a constant reminder and motivator in his search for love. A month later, serendipity struck when Stephen met Zoe at a wedding. Zoe’s appearance closely matched the psychic's drawing, leading to an immediate connection between them.
Notable Quote:
Brooke (06:00): "Oh, my God. It's happening."
Stephen invited Zoe to dance, and they spent the evening getting to know each other. Encouraged by the uncanny resemblance, Stephen decided to share the soulmate sketch with Zoe via text.
Notable Quote:
Stephen (07:07): "The caption was, isn't this crazy? This looks just like you."
However, this revelation backfired. Zoe found the gesture creepy, and the dynamic between them shifted. Compounding the situation, Stephen discovered that Zoe had matched with his mother on a dating app, adding layers of awkwardness and confusion.
Notable Quote:
Zoe (12:14): "Yeah, the first straw was you sending me that creepy picture anyway, so obviously I was going to be standoffish."
Timestamp: [10:38] - [18:09]
Brooke and Jeffrey engage in a lively discussion about the implications of Stephen's actions. They explore themes such as:
The Ethics of Psychic Services:
The Intersection of Online Dating and Family Dynamics:
The Impact of Supernatural Beliefs on Modern Relationships:
Navigating Awkwardness and Seeking Closure:
Notable Quotes:
Brooke (16:09): "What if they really are meant to be? Would that second date update be the most anticipated one we ever did on this show?"
Jose (17:54): "She's asking, how many siblings do you have?"
Timestamp: [10:38] - [17:54]
In a dramatic turn, Brooke and Jeffrey decide to facilitate direct communication between Stephen and Zoe by calling Zoe on-air. The conversation reveals deeper misunderstandings:
Zoe Clarifies Her Stance:
Stephen's Dilemma:
Miscommunications Unveiled:
The episode concludes with Brooke and Jeffrey acknowledging the complexities of Stephen and Zoe’s situation, emphasizing the unpredictable outcomes of blending psychic beliefs with modern dating practices.
Notable Quotes:
Zoe (17:42): "I did not even think about that. It's actually 25 bucks per person. Yeah, at this point."
Brooke (17:49): "Love still prevails."
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update masterfully intertwines humor, real-life dilemmas, and thoughtful discussions to explore the nuances of modern dating. Stephen's story serves as a cautionary tale about seeking shortcuts to love and the complexities that arise when personal beliefs intersect with technology-driven matchmaking.
This episode serves not only as entertainment but also as a reflection on the lengths individuals go to find love and the unforeseen consequences that can arise from unconventional methods. For listeners navigating their own dating journeys, Stephen's story offers both laughs and lessons in patience, honesty, and the unpredictable nature of connections.