Second Date Update Classic: Spontaneous No

Summary

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Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update Classic: "Spontaneous No"

Date: August 20, 2025
Podcast: Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Episode Theme: When trying way too hard to be spontaneous ruins a first date

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Episode Overview

In this "Second Date Update Classic," the hosts help Patrick, a self-admitted non-spontaneous guy, figure out why he's been ghosted by Maggie after their first date. The episode revolves around Patrick's increasingly wild and awkward attempts to prove he's a spontaneous person—efforts that lead to a series of cringeworthy missteps, culminating in a matching tattoo. Energetic banter, listener commentary, and a live call with Maggie make for a hilarious yet cautionary tale about authenticity (and the dangers of impulsivity).

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Setting the Stage: Spontaneity as the Date’s Theme

• The hosts, Jeffrey, Brooke, and Jose, discuss what the "craziest thing" they've ever done for a date is. Jose shares a sweet story about buying all the roses from a street vendor ([04:13]).
• Patrick joins to reveal his problem: he tried to appear spontaneous on his date with Maggie, but it went off the rails ([04:51]).

2. Patrick’s Escalating Attempts at Spontaneity

The Dinner Table Flower Incident ([05:49]):

• Patrick explains: after being accused of not being spontaneous, he "doubled down" by pulling a flower out of a table vase and–shockingly–eating it.
  • Brooke: "Ate it? Ate it." ([05:59])
  • Patrick: "She did laugh, thought it was funny, but she was like, are you sure you’re not just weird?" ([06:20])
• The hosts point out how the line between spontaneous and strange can be blurry.

The $100 Mid-Meal Tip ([06:35]):

• Still feeling challenged, Patrick calls over the waiter and tips them $100, mid-meal, to continue proving his spontaneity.
  • Jose: "Whoa." ([06:48])
  • Patrick: "You’re doing such a great job. I just want to give this to you now..." ([06:52])
• The move is met with uncertainty—impressed or shocked?

The Matching Tattoo Escalation ([07:32]):

• After dinner, they pass a tattoo shop. Trying to impress Maggie (who has an infinity tattoo), Patrick impulsively gets the same symbol tattooed on his shoulder—leaving Maggie outside for 30 minutes.
  • Maggie (later): "...when he came outside with the tattoo that I had, I, like, wanted to scream because he didn’t even ask me what it was. I’m actually in the process of getting it removed because that’s the matching tattoo I had with my ex." ([16:10])
• Hosts react in disbelief, questioning the appropriateness and sustainability of Patrick’s approach.

3. The Hosts’ Analysis and Advice

• The group discusses whether Patrick should have just been himself instead of trying so hard ([09:54]).

  • Jose: "Have you thought at any point of this just to be yourself?" ([07:42])
  • Patrick acknowledges overcompensating, seeking approval.

• They decide to call Maggie to hear her side for a second opinion ([12:46]).

4. Maggie’s Perspective: The Other Side of "Spontaneous"

• Maggie finds Patrick’s behavior bewildering, detailing each incident:
  • Flower Eating: "All I do is laugh. Yeah, that’s, like, permission to keep going..." ([14:08])
  • $100 Tip: "It was strange, to say the least." ([14:42])
  • Tattoo: "Literally negative infinity. That was just, like, actually insane." ([15:31])
  • On learning Patrick copied her tattoo, she reveals: "I’m actually in the process of getting it removed because that’s the matching tattoo I had with my ex." ([16:10])
• Maggie points out Patrick “didn’t even talk to me on the date...it was all about how you felt.” ([18:00])
• When offered a chance to reconnect (and even a free tattoo removal), she abruptly and politely declines: "No." ([19:36])

5. Memorable Quotes & Moments

• Maggie (on the tattoo): "Literally negative infinity. That was just, like, actually insane." ([15:31])
• Patrick (admitting defeat): "I'm boring and that's okay." ([12:04])
• Brooke (advice): “She wasn’t trying to bully you. She was trying to tell you to... just be yourself.” ([09:54])
• Patrick (about proving himself): "I felt like I had to defend myself if it wasn't, you know, overcompensated." ([09:45])

6. Emotional Tone and Takeaways

• The conversation is fast-paced and loaded with lighthearted mockery, but becomes more serious as both sides reflect on authenticity and boundaries.
• The hosts ultimately reinforce the importance of being oneself rather than putting on a show to win someone over. Patrick, in retrospect, sees the value of authenticity—though not before some public (and permanent) missteps.

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Important Segment Timestamps

• Patrick describes why he doubled down on spontaneity: [05:21]
• Flower eating incident: [05:49]
• Tipping $100 mid-meal: [06:35]
• Getting the matching tattoo: [07:32], [08:03]
• Discussion of what Maggie actually wanted from the date: [09:54]
• Preparing to call Maggie: [12:46]
• Maggie’s strong reaction to the tattoo: [15:31], [16:10]
• Patrick joins the call with Maggie, admits his mistakes: [17:09] – [18:39]
• Maggie’s final verdict (declines second date): [19:36]
• Debrief and hosts’ closing thoughts: [21:51]

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Notable Quotes (with Attribution & Timestamps)

• Patrick (on his failed attempts):
  "Now I feel like I have to prove my point. So the waiter's walking by and I called him over, I took a hundred dollar bill out of my wallet and I tipped him mid meal." ([06:35])

• Maggie (on the tattoo):
  "I’m actually in the process of getting it removed because that’s the matching tattoo I had with my ex." ([16:10])

• Patrick (accepting defeat):
  "I'm boring and that's okay." ([12:04])

• Brooke (counsel):
  "She wasn’t trying to bully you. She was trying to tell you to... just be yourself." ([09:54])

• Maggie (final verdict):
  "I appreciate all the effort, but it’s gonna be a no from me." ([19:39])

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Episode Flow and Final Thoughts

The episode expertly balances humor with reality, as the cast roasts Patrick’s antics while genuinely attempting to help. Through Patrick and Maggie’s perspectives, listeners see how “trying too hard” can be not just off-putting but actively create distance. The segment ends without a second date, reinforcing the show’s tagline—low success rate, high entertainment value.

Key Takeaway:
Authenticity beats forced spontaneity. And, never get a permanent souvenir from a first date—especially if you don’t know the full significance of the design.

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Transcript

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[Maggie]

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[Brooke]

So good.

[Jeffrey]

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[Brooke]

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[Brooke]

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[Jeffrey]

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[Brooke]

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[Jose]

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[Brooke]

Shoot. No.

[Jeffrey]

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[Brooke]

Hey, it's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. And in the second date, the guy tries to impress the woman he's out with and ends up, we'll just say in 30 straight minutes of non stop physical pain. Oh, talk about a backfire. Yeah, that's a. Heck, that's a backfire. You're going to hear what happened in just a second. But okay. Comments, Alexis? Yes. I mean, speaking of unconventional ways to meet someone, Amber commented and said, I showed up to a date two hours late and we now have a kid together. The patience on the man for staying that long.

[Jose]

How did you still show up and.

[Jeffrey]

How did he stay?

[Brooke]

And it worked out. I have so many questions. Oh, that's awesome.

[Jose]

What do you mean? Do you eat and then eat again when they get there?

[Brooke]

Yeah, I mean, I could. You know what I mean?

[Jose]

Brooke's like, yes, they're two hours late.

[Brooke]

Fourth meal is no joke. What about sixth meal? Why don't we go that far? All right, we're gonna start your second date right now.

[Commercial Voice]

Second date upd.

[Jeffrey]

To 78592. And this is for the guys out there. What is the craziest thing you ever did for a girl spontaneously on a first date? It's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. And I'll ask Jose. Jose. Craziest spontaneous thing that you've ever done for a girl on the first date.

[Jose]

There was one time, you know when you're leaving like a restaurant or a theater and they have somebody selling single roses outside? Oh, I remember one time I bought all the roses. He's like four left. And I was like, I'll take the rest of them. And I gave them to my date.

[Jeffrey]

Whoa. And I'll reach out.

[Brooke]

You're dangerous.

[Jeffrey]

Jose. Look out, street flower vendors. You're about to run out of inventory. If Jose's nearby.

[Brooke]

Thorns on those roses, that's even more risky.

[Jeffrey]

I bring it up, though, because one of our listeners says he went full spontaneous on a first date and now he's kind of regretting it because he's not getting a call back.

[Brooke]

So allergic to flowers.

[Jose]

Maybe he's like the one thing I. Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

Let's welcome Patrick to the show. Patrick, how you doing, ma'? Am?

[Patrick]

Hey, Guys, thanks for having me on.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah. Is it normal for you to get spontaneous on a date or is.

[Patrick]

No.

[Jeffrey]

Was this like a one time sort of thing?

[Patrick]

Not even remotely.

[Jose]

I'm kind of like you. I feel like I over plan though.

[Brooke]

I don't like that this didn't turn out the way you wanted to because she's not calling you back because you need that confidence boost to do it more often.

[Jeffrey]

So what was it that like, caused this feeling inside of you that night that said, I need to do something really spontaneous right now?

[Patrick]

So I basically, I met this girl named Maggie and we were on our date and the topic of being spontaneous kind of came up and we both agreed that being spontaneous is a really good thing. Not gonna lie. I don't agree, but I agreed in the moment. But like, she caught me right away because she was like, wait, I thought when we were first talking you had said, like, you're not the type of person who does spontaneous things.

[Brooke]

She called you out on you agreeing with me.

[Patrick]

Called me out. And then so I had to, I had to double down. I was like, what are you talking about? Of course I'm spontaneous. And I took one of like the flowers out of the vase on the table and. And I. I just ate. I ate it.

[Brooke]

Ate it? Ate it.

[Jose]

No, I thought you were going to like give it to her.

[Jeffrey]

Jose, did you not eat any of the roses that you bought?

[Jose]

No, I didn't.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, okay.

[Brooke]

Is she laughing or just drooling because.

[Jeffrey]

She'S so turned on?

[Brooke]

Or she's also hungry and there was only one flower.

[Jose]

She's like, hey, I was going to eat that flower.

[Jeffrey]

Well, what's her reaction?

[Patrick]

She did laugh, thought it was funny, but she was like, are you sure you're not just weird?

[Jeffrey]

Okay, she's ribbing you.

[Brooke]

I can't tell if it's a joke at this point or not.

[Jose]

It could be, it should be.

[Brooke]

It is kind of borderline between spontaneous and just really strange.

[Patrick]

Yeah. And now, even though clear, I'm not spontaneous, now I feel like I have to prove my point. So the waiters walking by and I called him over, I took a hundred dollar bill out of my wallet and I tipped him mid meal.

[Brooke]

What?

[Jose]

Whoa.

[Brooke]

What did you say to him?

[Jose]

Oh, my God.

[Jeffrey]

To be spontaneous.

[Patrick]

I said, you're doing such a great job. I just want to give this to you now, letting you know that we really like you. I can't remember what it is.

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

So you tipped early because you're spontaneous and a lot.

[Patrick]

Exactly.

[Jeffrey]

Was she impressed? With it.

[Patrick]

I don't know if she was impressed or shocked.

[Jeffrey]

Okay.

[Patrick]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

Probably because it was happening inside of a Jack in the Box. So she was like, that's a little unusual to do that here.

[Jose]

You're doing a good job.

[Brooke]

Have flowers on the table, Jeff. They don't have those at Jack in the Box.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, so was that it? Did the spontaneous proving. Stop there.

[Patrick]

No, he's not one.

[Brooke]

Huh?

[Jeffrey]

Okay, okay, there's more.

[Patrick]

So we leave after dinner, and we're walking and talking, and she says kind of out of nowhere, she's like, you know, it's okay if you're not spontaneous. Like, that's not a bad thing.

[Jose]

Right, though, bro, I'm sorry to interrupt you, but have you thought at any point of this just to be yourself and be like.

[Jeffrey]

But that's just not. It's not how men think. No, men don't accept, like, hey, you're not that cute. You're not that charming. And that's fine. You're like, what do you mean?

[Brooke]

Yeah, it's a. Reverse psychology is what we're working with.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah. You know, guys have to prove themselves.

[Jose]

We do. It's like a man thing. So what's right?

[Jeffrey]

So what did you do?

[Patrick]

Well, we were walking by a tattoo shop, and I said, I'll be right back. And she was like, no, please don't. Don't do that.

[Jose]

Oh, my God.

[Jeffrey]

You robbed the tattoo store. Oh, wow. That is a badass.

[Jose]

I got him.

[Patrick]

Robbing a tattoo store probably would have been smart. Half an hour later and I've gotten a small. What do you call it? Like, an infinity symbol on my shoulder, all the things.

[Jeffrey]

Why did you go with that?

[Brooke]

Did you say you just left your date for a half an hour? You didn't even bring her in the shop with you?

[Jose]

Yeah, I should let her pick it out.

[Patrick]

I wanted to surprise her because she has the same tattoo on the same spot.

[Jose]

Oh, no, no.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, you got a matching tattoo?

[Brooke]

Oh, yeah.

[Jose]

You know, that was endearing in your head.

[Jeffrey]

Hold on. What was her reaction?

[Patrick]

At first I thought it wasn't great because she was, like, freaking out a little bit, like, oh, my God, I can't believe you did that. But then she kind of just started laughing about it and was like, you know, oh, my God, you're crazy.

[Brooke]

Okay, okay.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, mission accomplished. You proved it there.

[Brooke]

So she waited for a half an hour and was still able to laugh? Yeah. It is questionable.

[Announcer]

She waited.

[Brooke]

She should have left.

[Jeffrey]

I mean, if I'm in that situation and I'm the Girl, I would want to know how it ends.

[Brooke]

So you're saying. You're saying do it for the plot.

[Jeffrey]

Save for the plot.

[Maggie]

Plot.

[Jeffrey]

I'm curious. What's he coming back with?

[Brooke]

Yeah, I hope that's the end of your spontaneity.

[Jeffrey]

Or is there more?

[Jose]

He's like, then I cut off my hand.

[Jeffrey]

Okay.

[Patrick]

No, I walked her home and that was it. But, like, literally, that was it. I haven't heard from her since.

[Brooke]

I mean, obviously, you really, really wanted to impress her.

[Jose]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

You know, I don't know if you did, but, like, this girl must mean a lot to you.

[Patrick]

I mean, yes, I do like her, but I don't know, I feel like she was calling me out and I felt like I had to defend myself if it wasn't, you know, overcompensated.

[Brooke]

She wasn't trying to bully you. She was trying to tell you to. Just like Jose said, be yourself. Pick a random bar you should go to last minute.

[Jose]

That is also spontaneous. You don't have to.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, I think what we're saying is we're all impressed. We're all very impressed by how far you went in order to make this woman like you.

[Brooke]

Yeah. For a girl you kind of like.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah. And so now we're gonna do even more spontaneity when we spontaneously call her and ask her why she's not giving you another chance.

[Brooke]

Well, this is. It's very planned.

[Jose]

We do every day.

[Jeffrey]

Well, no, she's not going to expect it. She's going to be like, wow, spontaneous phone call. Second date update. I want to date.

[Brooke]

I think we're using the word wrong. Yeah, we all have to get matching infinity tattoos by the end of this.

[Jose]

Then we will do it.

[Jeffrey]

We will get the tattoo gun out for your second date update right after this. Hold on.

[Commercial Voice]

Second date update.

[Jeffrey]

Some people get spontaneous on a date by skinny dipping or hopping a train together.

[Brooke]

Yes.

[Jeffrey]

Or hopping a train after skinny dipping.

[Brooke]

Clothes on or clothes off?

[Jeffrey]

Is this the nude car?

[Announcer]

Oh, close off.

[Jeffrey]

There's no plastic on the seats here. I like it.

[Jose]

And you're just naked and wet.

[Brooke]

Why does it take so long for you to get kicked off the train?

[Jose]

Yeah, talking to people more.

[Jeffrey]

They like what they see here. But not for our listener, Patrick. He proved that he was spontaneous.

[Jose]

Oh, he tried to prove by eating.

[Jeffrey]

A flower off their dinner table. Tipping $100 before the bill came.

[Brooke]

That's a good one.

[Jeffrey]

And then getting a should or tattoo all mid date.

[Brooke]

How small is it? Can we ask? It's an infinity sign.

[Jeffrey]

Brooke. Is asking, how small are you, Patrick? She wants to know how small is it?

[Patrick]

It's maybe like an inch and a half.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, that's not that big.

[Jose]

That's what I was picturing.

[Jeffrey]

That's not very big.

[Jose]

Big enough.

[Brooke]

Okay, Too big.

[Jeffrey]

But the whole reason that he did it is cuz Maggie kept doubting his spontaneous nature. So he had to step up and prove himself to her.

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

Patrick, you're not going to try and prove you're spontaneous again over the phone while we call her, right?

[Brooke]

Just a tattoo, gun in the back.

[Jose]

I'm getting her name.

[Patrick]

Trust me. I'm so over trying to be spontaneous, you know? I just. I just want to be myself.

[Brooke]

There it is.

[Patrick]

I'm boring and that's okay.

[Brooke]

I don't know if you want boring. You're not.

[Jeffrey]

Just don't say that because now it's going to prove how boring he is. Don't say that. Just accept you are who you are and we love it.

[Brooke]

Patrick. I should probably prefer a guy who doesn't eat flowers anyways.

[Jose]

I don't think it's fighting you is very fun.

[Jeffrey]

Let's see what Maggie has to say. It may have had nothing to do with the spontaneous stuff. Could be something else.

[Brooke]

Wait to hear her side of this date. And her story from it has to.

[Jose]

Do with the spontane. There's no way it's not.

[Jeffrey]

Well, let's find out. I'm going to call her right now. We'll see what she has to say if she answers. Let's do it.

[Maggie]

Hello?

[Jeffrey]

Hey, is this Maggie?

[Maggie]

Yes. Who is speaking?

[Jeffrey]

Oh, my name is Jeff from a radio show called Brook and Jeffrey in the Morning.

[Brooke]

Hi, Maggie. The whole show's here.

[Jose]

Good morning, Maggie.

[Maggie]

Hi, guys. What is this about?

[Brooke]

Okay, you're smiling, you're laughing.

[Jeffrey]

This is. This is about your love life, actually.

[Patrick]

Okay, don't change how to get love.

[Brooke]

I wouldn't use love in there, Jeff.

[Jeffrey]

Okay? It's not your like life, your dating life. Because rumor has it you recently went out with a guy named Patrick and had a really fun time.

[Maggie]

Oh, okay. If you say that. Does he say so?

[Jeffrey]

I do say so.

[Brooke]

So.

[Jose]

Interesting.

[Brooke]

I can't wait to hear how you describe this date.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, because we're doing a segment called Second Date Update. We're trying to help Patrick out and figure out if there was something weird about the date, if there was something that you didn't like because he's a little bit confused why you haven't met up. Again.

[Maggie]

He's confused why we haven't met up again.

[Jeffrey]

Well, yeah, he did tell us a.

[Maggie]

Little bit how the date went.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, there were some highlights that were.

[Brooke]

Brought up, some that confused.

[Jose]

Some lights, that's for sure.

[Brooke]

Some spontaneous moments that happened. It sounds like.

[Maggie]

Yeah. I mean, I don't even know how to go about starting talking about this.

[Brooke]

But can we start with a flower at the table?

[Maggie]

Yeah. It was like a fun, flirty banter, and then he just eats a flower off the table. Like a man, like, shocked and appalled. I'm confused. I don't know what to do. So all I do is laugh. Yeah, that's, like, permission to keep going.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, is it? Is it because. Is it because he didn't put ketchup on the flower?

[Brooke]

Is that what it was?

[Jose]

No, but you're saying your nervous laughter kind of opened the door. He thought, oh, she's laughing. I can do that.

[Brooke]

I should do this like my 7 year old.

[Maggie]

I was uncomfortable.

[Brooke]

Okay, okay.

[Jeffrey]

But it was pretty impressive when he tipped $100.

[Maggie]

It was strange, to say the least.

[Brooke]

Why was that strange?

[Maggie]

It was strange because it's like, that's not how you act in a restaurant. That's not. I mean, I wasn't impressed because somebody, like, showed how much money they had.

[Jeffrey]

All right, okay, fair. We can say that. But.

[Brooke]

But you're still there. Like, you. I mean, you guys are still going on the date. It's not like you left or you said. I mean, there had to be something good happening.

[Maggie]

Right? Well, I mean, how do you even. Like, how would you leave that situation?

[Brooke]

Get up and walk out the door. Would you, though? No.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

Okay. Call my friend to come get me. Walking out the door.

[Jeffrey]

Pull the fire alarm. But let's talk about the tattoo that he got at the end of the day.

[Jose]

Can we skip to that? We're all dying here.

[Jeffrey]

We want to know, on a scale of 1 to 10, how badly did you want to say I love you? Right when he came outside?

[Maggie]

Literally negative infinity. That was just, like, actually insane.

[Jeffrey]

You didn't like it. It's funny you said that, because we heard it was an infinity tattoo, so negative infinity. Wow. That's like matching soulmates.

[Maggie]

Not really.

[Announcer]

Yeah.

[Jose]

So that's how math works.

[Brooke]

You're waiting outside a Tattoo parlor for 30 minutes. Like, did you know that's what he was doing inside?

[Maggie]

I honestly, I had no idea what was happening. You weren't sure when he came outside with the tattoo that I had, I, like, wanted to scream because he didn't even ask me what it was. I'm actually in the process of getting it removed because that's the mansion tattoo I had with my exact.

[Brooke]

Because it was a matching tattoo that you had with your ex. Is that what you just said? Yes, dude.

[Jose]

Oh.

[Brooke]

Oh, my God.

[Jeffrey]

Well, now you don't have to get it removed because it matches with your new boyfriend.

[Brooke]

No, I think she's gonna move her appointment sooner. Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, God.

[Brooke]

Isn't it crazy to think that two men in your life has this. Have that same. We're willing to get an infinity tattoo.

[Maggie]

They're not both in my life.

[Brooke]

Okay, that's true.

[Jose]

I mean, that's like your exit mark. Every time you're done with one, you give them.

[Jeffrey]

Well, they're not. They're totally out of your life yet either, because here's something that's kind of spontaneous and fun. Patrick has been waiting on the other line, listening, wanting to talk to you.

[Maggie]

Oh, my gosh. Really?

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, I think he's still there. Patrick.

[Patrick]

Yeah. Hey. Hi.

[Brooke]

How spontaneous. God, as if that tattoo story could. I thought bad. I thought it couldn't get worse.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah.

[Jose]

And it did.

[Jeffrey]

Patrick, how do you feel about your tattoo now?

[Maggie]

Not.

[Patrick]

Not so great. I'm not even sure what to say. That is. But you know what? I. Hey, you're. I bet your ex was not as spontaneous as I am.

[Brooke]

Nope.

[Patrick]

Right?

[Jose]

Oh, gosh.

[Maggie]

Still, he keep going with that whole thing. It's like. It's not a joke anymore. It's kind of just annoying at this point.

[Brooke]

Ah, that was some.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, try and be boring now.

[Jose]

Be yourself, bro.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, be boring.

[Brooke]

You. That's what you said you were gonna do, right? Like, that's what you' goal was to be yourself and show her who you really are.

[Patrick]

No, absolutely. I was. I was. That was a really. A real bad joke.

[Jose]

Okay, He's a jokester. We know that.

[Jeffrey]

She doesn't like jokes.

[Brooke]

I think he's uncomfortable. I feel bad.

[Jose]

I do, too.

[Patrick]

So, Maggie, I got to ask, like, was your ex boring? What was he like?

[Maggie]

Patrick, I don't even have to tell you. You, like, didn't even talk to me on the date. It was all about how you felt. I'm like, I don't need to tell you anything about myself.

[Jose]

That's true.

[Brooke]

Do you know what?

[Jose]

We went on a date and sat down and just witnessed a lot of weird stuff.

[Brooke]

When we talked to him before we were on the phone with you, he understands how dumb he was, and he said he just wanted to be himself and get a do over with you.

[Jose]

You know, he should have Just admitted Maybe he's not Mr. Spontaneity.

[Patrick]

I'm not, I swear.

[Jose]

You don't have to convince her.

[Maggie]

I mean, I think he's a really nice guy. I think he is trying too hard and needs to get a little bit more grounded with who he is.

[Brooke]

Okay.

[Maggie]

And I don't know, I think there are a lot of assumptions that were made and I didn't like it, and I don't have time to give other people chances. Multiple chances.

[Jeffrey]

So you're selfish. That's okay.

[Brooke]

Oh, my God, Jeffrey. No. She has boundaries. Boundaries is what those are called.

[Jeffrey]

Brooke, the point is, we're trying to help our listener Patrick get together with this woman that he really liked and made a lot of effort to try and impress.

[Brooke]

Did do that.

[Jeffrey]

Maggie. We're all in agreement, and even Patrick is that he went too far with it. We want to reel it back so much. So what do you think about getting your tattoos removed together? And we will pay for that.

[Brooke]

Maybe you could add on, though, and make it something else.

[Jose]

Also, butterfly.

[Jeffrey]

Let's erase all of the past and start a happy, brand new future with Patrick.

[Patrick]

Do I have to pay for both of those, too?

[Brooke]

Patrick, don't come off as cheap right now.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, well, Brooke, he already spent his $100 bill on the waiter already, so we probably should step in. Maggie, what do you think?

[Patrick]

Think?

[Maggie]

No.

[Brooke]

Okay.

[Jeffrey]

Wow.

[Maggie]

I appreciate all the effort, but it's gonna be enough for me.

[Jeffrey]

I kind of know why her ex boyfriend left her now after hearing this.

[Brooke]

Oh, my God.

[Jose]

Jeffrey.

[Jeffrey]

You assume he left? He's fun. He's spontaneous.

[Jose]

He tried.

[Jeffrey]

Patrick, do you and me want to. You want to get a beer with me sometime? Dude?

[Patrick]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

I can't wait to see Jeffrey's infinity symbol when it comes to work next.

[Jeffrey]

Week, we're gonna get the tattoos that you have to, like, press your bodies together in order for them to make one giant thing. One giant flower y one cheek each. Okay, Patrick, that might be a little weird.

[Patrick]

A little, like, too much for me.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, I'm the weird one now.

[Brooke]

I. I've thought that for a long time.

[Jeffrey]

Brook and Jeffrey in the morning.

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[Jeffrey]

Man, I am so disappointed.

[Brooke]

Really?

[Jeffrey]

Honestly?

[Brooke]

Really? You really thought that was gonna turn out differently?

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I just feel like men are constantly trying to put in extra effort to show show that they care about these women. They want to stand out and they get roasted for it on our show every single time.

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[Brooke]

All she wanted him to do was be himself.

[Jeffrey]

She didn't say that. Did not put that on. Not before the date, after the fact. She said it.

[Brooke]

She said it during the date. She said, you're trying too hard. Just be you.

[Jeffrey]

Honestly, she gave him a chance.

[Brooke]

Do not listen to anything people say.

[Jeffrey]

Really? I blame myself for this.

[Brooke]

It's all about you.

[Jeffrey]

I am not being wild and spontaneous enough in these calls to make the other men appear more normal.

[Brooke]

I see.

[Jeffrey]

That's my job. Although I did ask the guy to grab a beer and get matching butt tattoos with me at the end, so maybe I am growing.

[Brooke]

You got turned down though.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah. It's a rough day for everybody, so I don't know. We're still willing to help you out, but let's give guys some credit for effort.

[Jose]

Yeah, Ladies?

[Brooke]

Sure. Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

Okay.

[Jose]

Half the room is good.

[Jeffrey]

We will call the person. We'll put in the effort by calling that person who's not calling you back. So email the show if you feel like you need a little bit of help.

[Patrick]

Help.

[Jeffrey]

And go check out all of our second dates. Wherever you get your podcasts at Brooke.

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