Second Date Update Classic: The Blame Game

Summary

Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update – Episode Summary: "The Blame Game"

Release Date: May 26, 2025
Hosts: Brooke and Jeffrey
Podcast Series: Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update by iHeartPodcasts

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Introduction

In the "Classic: The Blame Game" episode of Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update, hosts Brooke and Jeffrey delve into the intricate world of dating, focusing on the aftermath of a seemingly successful second date that leads to unexpected silence. This episode highlights the challenges of post-date communication and explores the reasons behind why one party might ghost the other, providing both entertainment and insightful commentary for listeners navigating the dating scene.

Listener Story: Manda and Richie's Second Date

The episode centers around a listener named Manda, who shares her experience of a second date that didn't go as planned. Manda met Richie through an unconventional yet relatable scenario:

• Meeting Over Delivery Food: Manda recounts, “[03:22] Jose: ...you can come up with something hotter than kale smoothies and burrito bowls.” Manda describes how she and Richie first connected while waiting for their delivery orders in her apartment complex’s lobby area, a common social hub for residents.

• The First Date: Intrigued by their initial conversation about food preferences, Richie asked Manda out for a meal. “[05:43] Jose: ...We just went to kind of like, an American cuisine kind of spot.” They chose a local burger restaurant where they enjoyed each other’s company, discussing topics like work and family. Manda found Richie’s cat named Joe endearing, adding a personal touch to their interactions.

• The Unexpected Turn: Despite a positive connection during the meal, Manda notes a puzzling end to the evening: “[07:08] Manda: I thought things were going really well, and I thought he was going to kiss me, but instead he just hugged me.” This led to Richie not reaching out post-date, leaving Manda confused and seeking closure.

Hosts' Discussion: Analyzing the Situation

Brooke and Jeffrey engage in a thoughtful discussion about the importance of communication in budding relationships:

• Manda’s Perspective: Manda provides a rational take, stating, “[09:20] Manda: I really liked him. I don’t know. Maybe he just didn’t like me as much as I liked him.” The hosts commend her practical outlook, emphasizing emotional intelligence in recognizing and accepting differing levels of interest.

• The Communication Gap: The conversation shifts to the central issue—why Richie failed to follow up. Jeffrey observes, “[13:08] Jose: So you liked her, she liked you, and neither of you have texted or called each other?” This lack of communication is identified as the crux of the problem, highlighting common pitfalls in modern dating where assumptions often replace direct dialogue.

Mediation Attempt: Calling Richie Live on Air

Seeking to resolve the mystery behind Richie's silence, Brooke and Jeffrey decide to reach out directly:

• Connecting with Richie: At [10:58], the hosts successfully connect with Richie. They introduce themselves and explain the purpose of their call, aiming to gain his perspective on the situation.

• Richie’s Confusion: Richie expresses his bewilderment: “[12:19] Richie: I thought that we had a really good time, but I don’t know, I didn't hear anything from her, so I, like, just thought she didn't like me, so I kind of moved on.”

• Emerging Tensions: As Manda and Richie converse through the hosts, underlying frustrations surface. Manda feels let down by Richie’s lack of communication, while Richie criticizes Manda’s approach to splitting the bill and perceives her as insensitive. Notable exchanges include:

  • Manda: “[14:03] Richie: I didn’t think you were going to be so sensitive, so I’m sorry to bring that up.”

  • Richie: “[16:38] Richie: I mean, that's emasculating. You gotta know that, right? That's emasculating.”

• Humorous Yet Tense Moments: The mediation becomes increasingly chaotic as Brooke and Jose interject with humor, attempting to lighten the mood. However, the conversation ultimately deteriorates, highlighting the complexities and sometimes unresolvable nature of miscommunication in relationships.

Conclusion: Hosts Reflect on the Challenges

Brooke and Jeffrey wrap up the episode by reflecting on the difficulties of their "Second Date Update" approach:

• Lessons Learned: Jeffrey muses, “[19:18] Jose: It got out of hand, but I do want everybody to know once we got off the air, I graciously offered to give both of them restaurant gift cards...” This humorous yet sincere gesture underscores their commitment to helping listeners, despite the unpredictable outcomes.

• Final Thoughts: The hosts acknowledge that while their intervention aims to provide clarity and foster connections, human emotions and personal dynamics can complicate even the best-intentioned efforts. They encourage listeners to strive for open communication and honesty in their own dating experiences.

Takeaways for Listeners

• Importance of Communication: The episode emphasizes that clear and proactive communication is vital in understanding each other's intentions and feelings, preventing misunderstandings that can lead to ghosting.

• Balancing Humor and Sensitivity: Brooke and Jeffrey’s attempt to mediate showcases the delicate balance between addressing serious relationship issues and maintaining a light-hearted, entertaining atmosphere.

• Self-Reflection: Both hosts and listener Manda demonstrate the value of self-awareness and emotional intelligence in navigating the highs and lows of dating, encouraging listeners to reflect on their own experiences and approaches.

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Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update continues to provide a platform where real-life dating stories are examined with humor and empathy, offering both entertainment and valuable insights for those seeking love and connection.

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[Jeffrey]

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[Brooke]

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[Jeffrey]

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[Brooke]

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[Jeffrey]

That's right. And right now, just a little laughter with a second date update.

[Jose]

Second date update. With dating, people always like to talk about passion and soulmates finding true love.

[Jeffrey]

That'd be great.

[Jose]

But sometimes you don't date for love. You date for food. Oh, seriously? Is there anything more romantic in this world that can bond two people together than a good burrito bowl with a kale smoothie?

[Jeffrey]

Especially when you're not paying. You kind of lost me at kale smoothie.

[Jose]

I dare you to come up with something hotter than kale smoothies and burrito bowls.

[Jeffrey]

I mean, very fibrous.

[Jose]

Apparently, that's what happened with one of our listeners the other day. Amanda claims that she bonded with a guy over some delivery food. So, Amanda, welcome to the show.

[Manda]

Hi. Thank you. It's actually just Manda.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, just.

[Jose]

Oh, the first A is silent.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, my God. That must be really annoying. Your entire life.

[Manda]

It's okay. It's always, like, conversation starters.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, that's a good point.

[Jose]

All right, I apologize, Manda, for that atrocious butchering of your name. But tell us about the guy that you went out with. What's his name?

[Manda]

His name is Richie.

[Jeffrey]

Not itchy.

[Jose]

Yeah, you pronounce that first. R. Yeah.

[Brooke]

Hi.

[Jeffrey]

Okay. She doesn't find it funny. Okay, that's fine. I'm sure you've heard it your whole life. I get it.

[Manda]

I get what you guys are doing. That's funny.

[Jose]

Okay. Yeah, we like to have a little bit of fun before we get into the details of the date, but shout it out.

[Brooke]

Rook.

[Jose]

You met with Richie over delivery food? How did that happen?

[Manda]

Yeah, so I live in a really big apartment complex, and when you order food on one of the food apps, you go pick it up downstairs, and then the area usually is like a little bit of a hangout. Kind of becomes like a social gathering.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, that makes sense.

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, because people are waiting for their food. Or.

[Brooke]

Or that's just how you get into the building a lot of times.

[Jose]

I Feel like it'd be a bunch of really hangry people down there.

[Jeffrey]

Sure.

[Jose]

All waiting for food, all bitter.

[Brooke]

Who's that delivery for?

[Jeffrey]

Glaring at each other.

[Jose]

That's okay. You met him there.

[Manda]

Yeah. So when I was waiting for my food, he was there, and we just kind of started having some small talk. He asked what I ordered, and then he was bragging that he got the best tacos, and then he ended up getting Taco Bell, so I thought that was really funny.

[Jeffrey]

It was Taco Bell.

[Jose]

Okay.

[Jeffrey]

Was it a joke when he was saying it, or was he being legit?

[Manda]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jeffrey]

Okay.

[Brooke]

Good sense of humor.

[Manda]

What do you mean?

[Jose]

Taco Bell's delicious.

[Jeffrey]

I love it.

[Jose]

I don't see the joke in that.

[Jeffrey]

It just doesn't ever make sense to me when people get Taco Bell delivery because you are literally paying three times what it would cost in the restaurant. That is like, the whole point of Taco Bell is also that it's cheap.

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Manda]

Usually the state I'm in eating it.

[Jeffrey]

I can't get to Taco Bell. Okay, that's not the point. That's not your point. Was this guy sober?

[Manda]

Yeah, he was sober, I think.

[Jose]

Okay.

[Brooke]

Taco Bell is delicious in all states.

[Jose]

All right. What happened after that, after you met?

[Manda]

Well, we ran into each other a couple of other times. You know, got to know each other a little bit, and eventually he was like, instead of just meeting in the lobby, we should go get food.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, cute. So he asked you out?

[Manda]

He did ask me out.

[Jeffrey]

Did he take you to his favorite taco place?

[Brooke]

That would have been a good move.

[Manda]

Yeah, no, we just went to kind of like, an American cuisine kind of spot. That was pretty close.

[Brooke]

Fancy way of saying diner.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, American cuisine. It was a burger restaurant.

[Jose]

And how did that go?

[Manda]

It was great. We hung out. You know, I really liked him. We really got to know each other. It was lovely, I thought.

[Jose]

Okay, what'd you guys talk about?

[Manda]

Like, work, family? He has a cat named Joe.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, cute.

[Brooke]

Brooke and I love cats with human names.

[Jeffrey]

Seriously, dude.

[Jose]

And the food was good? It sounds like it all sounds normal. Were there any issues that came up during the date?

[Manda]

No issues that I can really think of. I mean, we were talking a lot, so at one point, the waiter came and cleared our table, like, before we were done, which is a big pet peeve of mine.

[Jeffrey]

So you threw a fork at him?

[Manda]

Yeah, No, I just kind of politely asked him that he didn't need to take our main plates because we were still eating, you know?

[Jeffrey]

Okay.

[Jose]

Okay.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah.

[Jose]

How did it end?

[Manda]

The bill came, he paid. I offered to Venmo him. He turned it down.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, good offer. I feel like you should always offer.

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

Even if you don't mean it electrically.

[Richie]

It's just curse.

[Jeffrey]

I do fake offer, but I'm never gonna Venmo. Okay, cool.

[Brooke]

And then the guy says.

[Manda]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

She's like, oh, my app's not working down for everyone.

[Jose]

Okay. So he covered the whole bill?

[Manda]

Yeah, he covered the whole bill.

[Jeffrey]

Okay.

[Manda]

I thought things were going really well, and I thought he was going to kiss me, but instead he just hugged me.

[Jeffrey]

Oh. I mean, maybe he got scared.

[Brooke]

Yeah, it is. The first kiss is so, like, tough and scary and.

[Jeffrey]

Did you feel like you guys had chemistry?

[Manda]

Yeah. I mean, I really liked him. I don't know. Maybe he just didn't like me as much as I liked him.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, that is a rational thing to say, my friend.

[Jose]

Taking all the romance right out of this story. Okay.

[Brooke]

Very responsible and mature thought process.

[Jeffrey]

It was. It's hard to admit that sometimes.

[Jose]

So it's kind of weird, though, because you live in the same building. You haven't seen him again since that happened, or have you run into him down at the delivery food hangout?

[Manda]

No, I haven't.

[Jose]

Huh.

[Manda]

It's a pretty big building, so it's not necessarily gonna run into someone all the time. But I had seen him there pretty frequently before we had hung out, and now I haven't seen him at all.

[Jeffrey]

And he didn't mention, like, going out of town or any.

[Manda]

No.

[Brooke]

Or the day was so bad he moved.

[Jose]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

He's like, you know what? I'm breaking the lease. I'm outta here.

[Jose]

Let's hope not. But we're gonna play a song, and then we're gonna do the very practical thing and ask Rich for you if there is a legitimate reason why he's not calling you back.

[Manda]

Okay, sounds good. But also, his name is Richie, not Rich.

[Jose]

Oh, God. Did I really screw up both names in one segment? Your guest.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, just.

[Jose]

It's a skill par for the course for me here. Second date update. I'm gonna quote Manda. Not Amanda, but Manda without that first day, because she's our second dater today. She said, quote, I really liked him, but, like, maybe he didn't like me as much as I liked him.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Jose]

And even though she said like four times in a single sentence, Professor Brook Fox still gave her a gold star for being practical and having a well thought out explanation for her ghost.

[Jeffrey]

Some emotional intelligence right there.

[Jose]

That she displayed Brooke. Any other clinical, pragmatic commentary you'd like to have us document on the podcast for posterity reasons?

[Jeffrey]

No, but I am taking notes for later, so my clipboard next to me and we can review at a later time.

[Jose]

Sounds fun for everybody. All right.

[Manda]

Why'd you even give her that opportunity to say that?

[Jose]

Regret it.

[Manda]

Yeah.

[Jose]

So, Manda, how are you feeling? Before we call Richie for you here, you doing okay?

[Manda]

Yeah, I'm a little nervous, but I'm interested to hear what he has to say.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah. And have you been, like, nervous to run into him? Because, you know, like, when so much time has passed, then it gets awkward and then.

[Manda]

Yeah, of course. You know, I've kind of been rehearsing what to say if I run into him.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, yeah, we all do that in our minds, right?

[Brooke]

Yeah, right.

[Jose]

And she totally hasn't been camping out down at the bottom of the elevator, just, like, accidentally waiting to put, like, a key into the mailbox hole. Just, like, oops. What are you doing here? That's funny.

[Manda]

I haven't done anything, like, good.

[Jose]

Okay, that's very practical of you. Let's just call Richie, though, and see what he has to say. Here we go.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, you got the name right.

[Brooke]

Hey, look at you, Jeff. You remembered something. Oh, wait, you wrote it down?

[Jose]

Well, yeah, I practiced it seven times before we got back on. So here we go. See what Richie has to say.

[Richie]

Hello.

[Jose]

Hello. Is this Richie?

[Richie]

This is he. Who's this?

[Jose]

This is Jeffrey. With a Y at the end?

[Jeffrey]

Well, you would start with a J. I mean, those are. You would always spell it with a Y. Some people spell it with a G. I don't know.

[Jose]

Some people get confused on these things. Words. Words and names, we found, are very difficult today.

[Brooke]

So there's also two E's. There's also two Fs.

[Jeffrey]

Hi, Richie.

[Jose]

Hello, Richie.

[Richie]

Hi. So you're.

[Jose]

You're Jeffrey from a morning radio show called Brooke and Jeffrey.

[Richie]

Oh, hey. So why are you guys calling me?

[Jose]

Very astute question there, Richie. We're calling because we're trying to dig a little bit into your dating life.

[Richie]

What are you talking about?

[Jeffrey]

Well, I think it's a good thing.

[Brooke]

Intrusively.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, yeah.

[Brooke]

It was brought to us.

[Jose]

Yeah. I mean, just. I mean, a little bit intrusively, but in a nice way. Because one of our listeners named Manda went out with you recently and would like to go out with you again.

[Richie]

Huh? She'd like to go out with me again?

[Jeffrey]

Yeah.

[Richie]

What gives you that idea?

[Jeffrey]

She told us.

[Jose]

Literally emailed the show saying, I would like to see Richie again.

[Jeffrey]

It was very direct.

[Jose]

We read between the lines on that one a little bit, but we figured out she wants another date.

[Richie]

I'm just, like, totally confused right now. I mean, I thought that we had a really good time, but I don't know, understand. Like, I didn't hear anything from her, so I, like, just thought she didn't like me, so I kind of moved on.

[Jeffrey]

Wait, what? I thought she said that she tried to get a hold of you. I thought. Did she tell us that or did she not tell us that?

[Jose]

I don't know if I asked that question. I was too busy trying to figure out her name.

[Richie]

Yeah, no, I. I don't know how she tried to contact me. Like, I never got a call from her or text or anything after the date.

[Jeffrey]

Wait, wow. Did you text or call her, though? Richie? I mean, maybe she's one of those girls that was just. Just doesn't want to be too forward.

[Richie]

No, I mean, usually a girl, at least. I mean, even though we live in the same building, she'll at least say, hey, I got home safe. It was nice tonight. You know, something just to let you know, she got in. I mean, do it. Nothing.

[Jose]

Or even like a thank you for dinner and paying for everything. That'd be a nice thing to say.

[Manda]

And ask if she got home safe.

[Jeffrey]

You guys, they live in the same building.

[Manda]

Why is that even Question?

[Jose]

She walked her to the door. Try a little harder.

[Brooke]

I broke both my legs. I've been stuck in the elevator for a week.

[Jose]

It happens.

[Brooke]

No, it does not happen.

[Jeffrey]

So, wait, so you liked her, she liked you, and neither of you have texted or called each other?

[Richie]

Guess not.

[Brooke]

Weird.

[Jose]

Okay, well, that seems.

[Jeffrey]

This seems easy.

[Jose]

It does seem easy, because you're in luck, Richie. Manda is actually on the other line right now wanting to tell you how much she likes you and wants to see you again. Manda.

[Manda]

Hey, Richie.

[Richie]

Harry. Wow, this is so strange to me right now. I'm totally taken aback.

[Manda]

Well, it's kind of interesting to hear your perspective on this, because I thought that you didn't like me.

[Richie]

I mean, that's sort of a relief and kind of funny, but we wasted a lot of time, I guess.

[Manda]

Yeah. I mean, I don't know. I guess I was expecting you to be, like, as good of a communicator as you talked about and, like, how that was important. And then I was kind of confused after.

[Jose]

I mean, it's just funny. Like, you guys seem like you're both interested in each other, so it's kind of cute. And you just didn't realize that it was going on. You were both too shy to say it, or stubborn, whatever it was.

[Richie]

From what she just said, she thinks I'm a pretty bad communicator.

[Jeffrey]

Seems like you both are. Well, yeah, like you both liked each other and neither one of you reached out.

[Jose]

That's not what you're saying, right, Amanda?

[Manda]

I mean, kind of.

[Jose]

Well, you didn't. You didn't communicate with him?

[Manda]

Well, I mean, I did. I was pretty clear that I was wanting to hear from him first, that I kind of liked the guy. Taking the initiative first. Yeah, I don't know. I guess I. I didn't expect so much from a cat person.

[Jeffrey]

What?

[Brooke]

What? A cat? Where did that come from?

[Richie]

So now I'm a liar and a bad person because I like cats, Right?

[Brooke]

Uh. Oh, do not insult the ca.

[Manda]

No, it just. Nevermind.

[Jeffrey]

I don't think you can take that one back.

[Jose]

Yeah, I thought when you were talking to us earlier, you said he had a cute cat named Joe.

[Manda]

Yeah, sure, but I'm just, you know, I'm sorry. I didn't think that. Richie, I didn't think you were going to be so sensitive, so I'm sorry to bring that up.

[Jeffrey]

He's so sensitive now.

[Brooke]

He's sensitive.

[Richie]

I guess being sensitive is better than being a total jerk to the waiter, so.

[Manda]

Oh, wait, what?

[Jeffrey]

What happened with the waiter?

[Brooke]

I don't want to make a pun, but the claws are coming out.

[Jeffrey]

I know, but she just said she has him nicely.

[Manda]

Yeah, what are you trying to say?

[Richie]

Okay, somebody tried to take your plate the other night. You said in like, a harsh tone, you know, I'm not done. Right? Like, that's as snarky as you can get.

[Brooke]

Oh, a little backhanded.

[Manda]

I feel like I was pretty polite. I wasn't done, so I just let the waiter know.

[Brooke]

But it was probably the tone.

[Jose]

Yeah. Are we. Are we forgetting that you guys both really liked each other two minutes ago?

[Richie]

I like her and all, but I'm just big on, like, manners and just etiquette. And there's a polite way to do things, and she just did not observe that.

[Jose]

Are you sure you're not just being defensive right now because she called you a pathetic, overly sensitive cat person?

[Jeffrey]

Hey, she didn't say pathetic.

[Brooke]

Yeah, but.

[Jose]

Okay, well, I'm just reading between the lines. We all know what she meant.

[Brooke]

No, you're adding words.

[Jose]

Yeah, the words were there. They were just unspoken.

[Manda]

So you're saying that I'm not polite because I offered to pay for half of the meal.

[Richie]

I mean, that's emasculating. You gotta know that, right? That's emasculating. Like I'm a dude on the first date. What kind of dude doesn't pay for the first date?

[Jeffrey]

What?

[Jose]

Well, I'm sorry. In Manda's defense, you did order Taco Bell, so maybe she just didn't think you had the budget for it.

[Jeffrey]

Amanda's defense, it's a polite thing to do.

[Jose]

Yeah, it says money bags, Brooke over there.

[Jeffrey]

It's nice to offer, you know, even if you don't do it, at least you know that you have someone who is more of a partner and not someone who just wants free stuff.

[Jose]

Is it rude? Like assuming that he can't afford it on his own?

[Jeffrey]

That's not what she was assuming at all.

[Jose]

This is going to come as a news flash, Brooke, but not everybody in the world agrees with you on everything.

[Brooke]

Oh, now it's going to hit.

[Jeffrey]

Why are you being rude all of a sudden now?

[Jose]

Are we fighting with each other?

[Brooke]

I like you.

[Jose]

Before this call started happen.

[Jeffrey]

What's going on, Cat guy? Is that what this is? Do you. And I don't even know it.

[Jose]

How dare you disrespect cat. There's nothing wrong with having cats, Brooke.

[Brooke]

Well, here's where the show is.

[Manda]

I feel like we should fight now.

[Jose]

You know what? Next time you offer to buy me lunch at work, I'm gonna offer to pay for half of it. How do you like that?

[Manda]

I would love that.

[Jose]

Oh, yeah, I'm sure you would. Hold on.

[Manda]

Everyone stop.

[Jose]

Everyone stop.

[Manda]

Hold on.

[Jose]

Maybe if you got the meal order right one time instead of getting me a burrito bowl. I don't like tortillas around my burritos. Brooke, if you listen to me once in a while.

[Jeffrey]

You didn't need the car, Jeff. Okay. Richie.

[Brooke]

And. And Amanda, are you still on the phone?

[Jose]

Come on, Richie. Amanda, we doing this or not? We send you on a second date, we're going to pay for it. And Brook's gonna offer to pay for half.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, Whether you like it or not. Richie.

[Manda]

What?

[Jeffrey]

You're agreeing?

[Jose]

Look.

[Richie]

Yeah. No.

[Brooke]

Okay.

[Jeffrey]

That's a no. Okay, well, that didn't end like I thought it was going to.

[Jose]

You go out of your way to try and help your listeners one time, and this is how you get treated? Blown off when you offer to pay.

[Brooke]

For their dates you kind of yelled at?

[Jeffrey]

I think it's emasculating. Yeah, and I'm Used to it.

[Brooke]

All right, well, sorry. Manda and Richie.

[Manda]

Yeah, that kind of got out of hand there, you know?

[Jeffrey]

Okay, yeah, that's enough from you.

[Jose]

That's offensive to people that don't have hands.

[Brooke]

Now you're just.

[Jeffrey]

Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.

[Jose]

All right, We've calmed down a little bit. And you. Sometimes, I'll be honest, I wonder why our listeners keep asking for our help when the calls turn out like this. Honestly, they keep on asking us to help them. You know what's going to happen.

[Jeffrey]

Even therapists have their own issues, right? They have to work through.

[Jose]

Usually not in front of the clients.

[Jeffrey]

But you get paid as a therapist. We don't.

[Jose]

Some of us on this show get paid more than others, and it's a little bit unfair.

[Jeffrey]

But trying to fix the gender pay gap. All right, that whole thing, we'll admit.

[Jose]

It got out of hand, but I do want everybody to know once we got off the air, I graciously offered to give both of them restaurant gift cards, even if they didn't want to go out with each other just for the trouble. Brooke, what did you offer them?

[Brooke]

You guys, like, scared them away.

[Jeffrey]

I offered them that first.

[Jose]

Oh, did you really? Anyway, I don't know why you'd want to, but if you ever want us to help you with your love life, you can always email the show and.

[Brooke]

Maybe to fight each other, you know.

[Jeffrey]

Maybe you'll end up helping us out in the end.

[Brooke]

Yeah, there you go.

[Jose]

Actually, maybe we should call another show to help with Ari shoes.

[Jeffrey]

That's good.

[Jose]

That's a good idea. Anyway, you can always find the second aid updates on our Brooke and Jeffrey YouTube. Go check it out. Subscribe. That's it.

[Jeffrey]

That's the end.

[Jose]

That's the end.

[Richie]

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[Brooke]

Hear insightful, entertaining discussions on today's important health and wellness topics on the Health discovered podcast from WebMD. Through in depth conversations with experts, Health Discovered covers everything from tips for healthier living to the latest on therapy and mental health.

[Manda]

My goal is to really destigmatize mental health treatment and looking at it from a whole health perspective, physical health and mental health can be intertwined.

[Brooke]

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[Jeffrey]

This is an iHeart podcast.