Second Date Update Classic: Train Game

Summary

Podcast Summary: Brooke and Jeffrey – Second Date Update Classic: Train Game

Episode Date: May 22, 2026
Podcast: Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
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Exploring why Josie hasn't heard back from Benjamin after their brief coffee follow-up to a series of flirty encounters on a train. The episode unpacks miscommunications, awkwardness, and the perils of romantic signaling.

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Episode Overview

Brooke, Jeffrey, and the morning crew address another listener's dating quandary: Josie, who met and slowly courted Benjamin on her daily train ride but is now being ignored after their first (and only) "date." The hosts investigate by calling Benjamin, uncovering a hilariously cringeworthy case of mistaken intentions and, unfortunately, mom-style jackets.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Josie’s “Train Game” Strategy (02:24–08:14)

• Josie shares her unique romantic strategy: gradually getting closer to Benjamin on the train over several rides before ever speaking to him.
  • "I've noticed that the way that I can gauge if someone's like attracted to me is if I get as close as possible to them without actually interacting with them." (Josie, 05:10)
• The morning crew pokes fun, likening her approach to predatory cat videos and jokingly warning about appearing like a “crazy woman” if the train isn’t crowded.
• Josie finally gets a compliment from Benjamin about her jacket, her first real interaction with him – but plays it cool and continues to “ignore” him.
• Eventually, Benjamin asks her out for coffee after several silent encounters.
  • "At this point, I knew there was interest. So the next time I saw him, he asked me if I wanted to get coffee." (Josie, 07:22)

2. The Coffee Date — Missed Signals and Awkward Energy (08:14–09:39)

• The meetup lasts only 15 minutes. Josie describes Benjamin as “inexperienced,” but finds it cute.
• Both exchange numbers, but Benjamin starts acting distant, almost as if their date never happened.
  • "Now whenever I see him, he's acting strange. Like it never happened." (Josie, 08:51)
• Josie prefers Benjamin’s awkwardness to the overconfidence she’s met with on dating apps.

3. The Call to Benjamin: Mom-Style Confusion (11:45–18:52)

• The show contacts Benjamin, revealing Josie is on the line listening in.
• Benjamin is surprised the coffee was even considered a date.
  • "I wasn't sure if you would consider this a date or not. There's a girl from the train named Josie." (Benjamin, 12:25)
• Benjamin admits he only wanted to talk to Josie to get style tips for buying his mom a birthday present.
  • "This girl has, like...I don't know how to describe it other than, like, a very similar style to my mom. I noticed she was wearing this jacket that my mom has the exact same one of." (Benjamin, 13:23)
• The conversation dissolves into laughter and mortification as the hosts and Josie realize Benjamin saw her as more of a gift adviser than a romantic possibility.
• Despite Josie clearly expressing interest now, Benjamin says he can only imagine her in his mom's clothes.
  • "Like, all I can do is just, like, picture my mom's clothes." (Benjamin, 17:31)
• Both agree there’s no coming back for romance after this revelation. Josie jokes she’ll switch to the bus to avoid future awkward encounters.
  • "Oh, no, it won't be. I'm probably gonna start taking the bus." (Josie, 18:49)

4. Reflections and Comedic Debrief (19:00–21:45)

• The hosts riff on the inherent awkwardness of being compared to someone's mother in dating.
  • "No one wants to be compared to their mother." (Brooke, 21:00)
• Jeffrey proposes that “hot moms” should be destigmatized, inviting listeners (humorously) to text in if they’re attractive moms.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Josie’s strategy, editorialized by Brooke:
  "I'm really hoping that the train that you're on is crowded, else you look like a crazy woman. Just inching..." (Brooke, 05:27)

• Jeffrey paints the scene:
  "It's like those cat videos where they, like, pan away for a second and you pan back. The cat's a little bit closer and you pan away and the cat's a little bit closer." (Jeffrey, 06:33)

• Benjamin, summing up the awkwardness:
  "All I can do is just, like, picture my mom’s clothes." (Benjamin, 17:31)

• Josie on her failed approach:
  "I'm throwing that strategy out from now on. I'm never using that again." (Josie, 19:00)

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Timestamps – Important Segments

• 02:24 – Show welcomes Josie; intro to her dilemma
• 05:10–07:22 – Josie details her close-quarters flirting method and the eventual coffee invitation
• 08:14–09:39 – Coffee "date" review, discussion of Benjamin's inexperience
• 11:45–14:18 – The call to Benjamin, reveal of the real reason for the coffee
• 13:23–14:18 – Benjamin admits the “mom style” confusion
• 17:31 – Benjamin’s fatal admission: he can only picture Josie in his mom’s clothes
• 18:49 – Josie closes the case: she’s switching to the bus
• 21:00–21:33 – Playful closing riff on "hot moms" and dating taboos

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Episode Tone

• Playful, witty, self-deprecating, and loaded with the show's signature rapid-fire teasing
• Josie is good-natured, rolling with the mortifying reveal, while Benjamin is well-meaning but clueless
• The hosts keep things light, finding the humor in every awkward beat

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Summary

This “Second Date Update” episode delivers a classic comedic misunderstanding: Josie orchestrates a slow-burn train flirtation, only for her crush to be interested in her jacket—because it could be the perfect gift for his mom. The result? Rather than sparks, both leave red-faced—and viewers leave with a reminder to be just a bit more direct with their romantic interest... and maybe to pick a jacket that doesn’t say “motherly.”

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[Brooke]

Hey, you found it. The home of the second date update. It is Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. And thanks for being here on the podcast. Yes, you know, I love all the comments we've been getting from all over the world, and I think this one really sums up what these second dates are. Nicola Huber in Brazil wrote, the call just gets worse and worse. Oh, it's true. It does it's like a guilty pleasure listening though. You know, Seriously, we love when you comment. We love when you subscribe even more. So please do it. And hey, hey. Just sit back and enjoy the second date update. It starts right now.

[Josie]

Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.

[Brooke]

Second date update.

[Jeffrey]

Everybody has a different romantic strategy when they're out and they see somebody they're attracted to.

[Brooke]

Oh yeah, okay.

[Jeffrey]

Like Jose will name drop himself before breaking down the diet and migration patterns of Pacific soft shell clams.

[Brooke]

Sorry if we don't make it out

[Jeffrey]

of here before the kids.

[Brooke]

Yeah, cuz it is getting hot. Oh my gosh. Recapping we love turn turned on by himself. I really do.

[Jeffrey]

Not the first part, but I know a lot about fish. And if y'.

[Brooke]

All, I think we get it.

[Jeffrey]

We got it.

[Brooke]

Jeffrey, why did you do that?

[Jeffrey]

Alexis will shake her empty white claw can in your direction hoping you'll buy her a new one.

[Brooke]

Do you like shiny things? I haven't had the pineapple flavor today.

[Josie]

Today.

[Brooke]

Today.

[Jeffrey]

And Brooke, well, she's married.

[Brooke]

Wink. No, I am married.

[Jeffrey]

She is not interested whatsoever. Wink, wink, wink. And she is definitely not going to leave her hotel room unlocked. Room 307. Wink, wink, wink. Why is even the doorstop like open? So again, guys, don't DM us. Brooke is not available.

[Brooke]

Thank you. Jeffrey, stop it.

[Jeffrey]

Who is available is actually one of our listeners, Josie. And apparently she has a different strategy when it comes to meeting a guy. Josie, welcome to the show.

[Josie]

Hi. Thank you so much for having me.

[Brooke]

Are you waking right now, Josie?

[Josie]

Am I winking? No, no, don't.

[Brooke]

There's no secret codes, only leads to trouble.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, Brooke would know. So tell us about the guy. Apparently you met someone when you were out recently. Who is it?

[Josie]

Yeah, so his name is Benjamin. And I actually, believe it or not, met him on the train.

[Brooke]

Oh, interesting. Like a long trip train or just like in town subway situation?

[Josie]

Yeah, in town subway situation. Because that's how I get to and from work.

[Brooke]

All right.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, got it. So did you pull the brook move of leaving the hotel room card like a dad on the chair?

[Brooke]

She's going to work.

[Josie]

Jeff.

[Jeffrey]

Train stop. F. Get out. You said. You said that you have a strategy. I'm wondering what it is.

[Josie]

Yes, so not quite that, but here's what I have learned, all right? I've noticed that the way that I can gauge if someone's like attracted to me is if I get as close as possible to them without actually interacting with them.

[Brooke]

I'm really hoping that the train that you're on is crowded, else you look

[Josie]

like a crazy woman.

[Brooke]

Just inching.

[Jeffrey]

There's like 40 empty seats and you're standing right next to it.

[Josie]

I think I'm subtle enough. I hope I'm subtle. I don't know. We'll find out.

[Brooke]

Okay, so, like, how does that work?

[Josie]

Well, okay, so I've been on the train with him a bunch of times, so.

[Brooke]

Oh, so you've noticed him before. Interesting. Okay.

[Josie]

Okay, so the first time I decided to use my strategy, I got close to him enough, but not enough where he and I could make eye contact. Right. And ignored him.

[Brooke]

Okay, and ignored him.

[Jeffrey]

I'm inching closer. Like, we're in the same corner now, but not yet.

[Brooke]

And why don't you say anything?

[Jeffrey]

Desperate people open their mouths and actually speak.

[Brooke]

Like, hi.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

Okay.

[Jeffrey]

You gotta let the target come to you. Orbit him.

[Josie]

Okay, exactly. I build visibility. It's all about the visibility.

[Brooke]

Right? How many rides? How many rides until you got close.

[Josie]

So, okay, the second ride got a little bit closer than the third ride. I sat right next to him.

[Brooke]

Okay. Third time's a charm.

[Benjamin]

Oh, my.

[Jeffrey]

It's like those cat videos where they, like, pan away for a second and you pan back. The cat's a little bit closer and you pan away and the cat's a little bit closer.

[Kalpen (Bowen Yang)]

Totally.

[Jeffrey]

And you're, like, on his back.

[Benjamin]

Eventually.

[Brooke]

Were you sitting in his lap by this time?

[Jeffrey]

Where are you?

[Josie]

Not quite, but I'm sitting right next to him.

[Jeffrey]

Did he notice you then?

[Josie]

He noticed my jacket.

[Brooke]

Oh, what did. Oh, how do you know?

[Josie]

He complimented me on my jacket. He said, hey, nice jacket. I like that jacket.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, what do you say?

[Josie]

I said, thank you and continued to ignore him.

[Brooke]

And continue to ignore. Ignore him.

[Josie]

Ignore him. Yes.

[Brooke]

He's going to think you don't like him. Like, that was your opening to. Do you have headphones on? Are you just sitting there in silence facing forward?

[Josie]

At this point, I knew that there was interest. So then when I saw him the next time, he asked me if I wanted to get coffee. What?

[Jeffrey]

Hey. So it worked.

[Brooke]

He went. He had spoken one sentence to you prior.

[Josie]

And then he said a little bit like, oh, hey, it's you again. You know, like a little small.

[Jeffrey]

I mean, this is going to help people in real life. This is how you meet people in the real world to get, like, what happens next? At this point? Do you give in at this point?

[Josie]

I just prefaced by letting him know how incredibly busy I am. But I could maybe squeeze him in after work.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, you don't want him to know that you've been slowly, like, stalking him, getting closer and closer to him on

[Brooke]

the train, and that your heart's about to explode because the guy you've been crushing on finally asked you out.

[Jeffrey]

Playing it cool, right? Okay.

[Brooke]

So did you go after work?

[Josie]

Yes. So we met at the train station and yeah, it was a quick 15 minute situation.

[Brooke]

Why so quick?

[Jeffrey]

Probably because the train was coming.

[Josie]

So I noticed that, like, he's kind of, I guess, inexperienced, it seems.

[Brooke]

Oh, why do you say that?

[Jeffrey]

Oh, my God.

[Josie]

Because he was. He seemed a little uncomfortable, you know, like he didn't know what to do.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, okay, well, maybe that was confusing for him in its own right because he was so used to you being cold in before. But I'm assuming that you guys exchanged numbers after that and have stayed in touch. So what's the latest?

[Josie]

So we did exchange numbers, but now whenever I see him, he's acting strange. He's acting like. Like it never happened.

[Jeffrey]

Okay.

[Brooke]

Oh, interesting. But. And you're okay with the inexperienced part, it sounds like.

[Josie]

I kind of thought it was cute, you know, like he just doesn't look like he's been on a ton of dates. Which, you know, is actually a good thing because, like, a lot of the guys on the app seem like they've been on three a day.

[Brooke]

Three a day? They're doing 3A.

[Benjamin]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

Maybe he was just really, really nervous on that first date and had been looking forward to it just as much as you were. Yeah. So maybe he's been waiting and trying to figure out the right way to contact you. We're just going to jump in and do it for him, though. We're going to call him and try and get you your second date update right after this.

[Josie]

Appreciate it.

[Jeffrey]

Hold on.

[Josie]

Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.

[Brooke]

Second date update.

[Jeffrey]

They say sometimes silence speaks louder than words.

[Brooke]

Yeah, never understood that, but yeah, we know you didn't.

[Jeffrey]

It's not just a quote. That's her entire seduction strategy.

[Brooke]

Believe this word.

[Jeffrey]

Get physically close to a guy and then just completely ignore him until he falls in love with you. Yeah, and now I understand why whenever I try to ignore Brooke at work, she just wants to talk to me. More and more and more. She's flagging me down, asking me all sorts of questions down the door to talk to you.

[Brooke]

I only said, how was your weekend?

[Jeffrey]

Oh, wow. All up in my business all over again. And that's how one of our listeners, Josie, met a guy named Benjamin on the train not too long ago over the course of several trips, she got closer and closer and closer to him till she was basically in his lap on a coffee date right before their next train. And I can feel Brooke staring at me this entire time, wanting to say something. What is it, Brooke? What do you want?

[Brooke]

I'm just listening to what you're saying.

[Jeffrey]

I'm not interested. Okay.

[Brooke]

So much. Just get to the point.

[Jeffrey]

Okay. My point has been made. That he's not calling her back.

[Brooke]

Yeah, that's the bad point.

[Jeffrey]

Yes. Yeah. Now, what would you like to say?

[Brooke]

I don't know. How are you feeling, Josie? No,

[Jeffrey]

obviously she's not feeling good. She doesn't want to talk to you. If she wants to listen, she's ignoring you.

[Josie]

Now, I just want to know, like,

[Brooke]

is she nervous or does she think, like, they only spent 15 minutes together?

[Jeffrey]

I don't know.

[Brooke]

What can go so wrong in 15 minutes?

[Jeffrey]

Don't downplay her amazing date, Brooke.

[Brooke]

Oh, my God.

[Jeffrey]

Really? Rude.

[Brooke]

I'm just done with. You can talk. Call the guy.

[Josie]

Yes, call the guy. Call the guy.

[Brooke]

Thank you, Jeff.

[Jeffrey]

How's that feel? Well, I like to, you know, have meaningful conversations and dive into people's feelings. All right, no, we'll just get right to business and call Benjamin. I'm going to dial his number. We'll see if he answers. Here we go.

[Benjamin]

Hello?

[Jeffrey]

Hey, is this Benjamin?

[Benjamin]

It is. Who's this?

[Jeffrey]

This is a. Not just one person, A whole radio show is on the phone wanting to talk to you.

[Brooke]

Welcome to the show.

[Benjamin]

Good morning. What's going on?

[Jeffrey]

Well, we're doing something called a second date update because one of our listeners has been trying to get a hold of you, and apparently she wants to see you again. On a real date. Yeah, I don't know the right way

[Brooke]

to say this makes sense. Like, they only went. You only went to coffee for 15 minutes with her?

[Jeffrey]

Yeah. I wasn't sure if you would consider this a date or not. There's a girl from the train named Josie.

[Benjamin]

You sure it's a date? I know a girl from the train named Josie.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, well, I didn't want to label it a date, but apparently you guys have hung out, seen each other a few times and had coffee together. That's the date we're referring to? Yeah.

[Benjamin]

I mean, we ride the same train line and. Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

So you're in a relationship.

[Brooke]

Okay, why did. Why didn't you consider the coffee meetup a date?

[Benjamin]

Well, I guess, like, technically, like, we made an appointment or like a time to see each other.

[Jeffrey]

A lot of people would See that as two people meeting up and having a drink or whatever together. That's considered a date.

[Benjamin]

Yeah, but I mean, like, normally there's sort of, like, I guess, date vibes, if you will.

[Brooke]

Oh, you didn't get any date vibes with her? Were you just being friendly?

[Benjamin]

Well, I just didn't even know there was supposed to be chemistry there. So the deal is, my mom's birthday is coming up, and I know this is. That's like, a weird intro, but.

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

What the heck?

[Benjamin]

This girl has, like. I. I don't know how to describe it other than, like, a very similar style to my mom.

[Brooke]

What did you just say? Josie has a similar style to your mom?

[Kalpen (Bowen Yang)]

I'm gonna throw up.

[Brooke]

I cannot think of a worse.

[Jeffrey]

Hold on, let's hear him out.

[Benjamin]

Maybe not, like, in a grow. Like, just like. I noticed she was wearing this jacket that my mom has the exact same one of.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, not the jacket.

[Brooke]

No, it's not gross. It's just insulting. Yeah, it's not gross. He's not into her. It's just insulting.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, Josie mentioned to us that you brought up her jacket looking really nice when you guys are on the train together. Is that what you're talking about? No.

[Benjamin]

Yeah, so I noticed her on the train a couple times, and I swear they must shop at the same place. And so I'm like, I don't know where to get a gift for my mom. And so I was just going to pick her brain on, like, where she shop.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, no, this was an information secret.

[Brooke]

Like, where's the Talbots so you can. Hey, maybe his mom is.

[Benjamin]

Oh, that might be a good place to go.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah. Did you tell Josie during the coffee experience that you were looking to buy a gift for your mother? Or are you just information gathering?

[Benjamin]

I don't know if I mentioned specifically that we talked about, like, where she shopped and, like. I mean, it was brief. Like. Okay, that's why, like, when you said date, I don't really think of it as a date.

[Brooke]

All right, well, man, that feels bad.

[Jeffrey]

Somebody who may have seen it as a little bit more than that is Josie, who, unfortunately has been listening to this entire conversation. Benjamin, she's on the other line.

[Benjamin]

I mean, hello. She never seemed interested.

[Jeffrey]

That's Josie. Say hi. Because she wasn't playing hard to get.

[Josie]

That's, like, so offensive. And my mom's cool.

[Benjamin]

No, no, no, no, no.

[Josie]

Your mom is cool.

[Jeffrey]

It's possible maybe his mom is some sort of model.

[Josie]

Why didn't you just ask me where I got the jacket when you complimented me on it.

[Benjamin]

And because she already has that jacket, you don't need.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, okay. It's kind of funny. He was probably taking your feelings into consideration by not bringing that up.

[Brooke]

I bet his mom was a really, like, maybe a teenager when she had him, so she's very young.

[Jeffrey]

I'm sure he's the product of a teenage pregnancy.

[Brooke]

I don't know.

[Benjamin]

That's not true.

[Jeffrey]

Okay.

[Benjamin]

It's like, bohemian style. I don't know what you would call it.

[Brooke]

Okay, that's okay. That's not bad. At no point, though, three people.

[Jeffrey]

You know what Josie probably wants to hear from you, Benjamin, is an apology of some sort.

[Benjamin]

Why am I. What did I do?

[Jeffrey]

Well, you said that she has the style of your mom.

[Benjamin]

Would you rather my. My mom has your style? I don't know.

[Jeffrey]

Nobody. You should not remind each other of either.

[Josie]

Okay, can we get off the whole I dress like his mom thing? Okay? I think that's been established. I was genuinely, like, interested. You seemed like a really nice guy, and you just seem like you were a little bit experienced. Inexperienced, rather. So now I just feel like an idiot.

[Benjamin]

How?

[Brooke]

Well, I think he is inexperienced. I mean, buying gifts for his mom.

[Benjamin]

I don't think I'm inexperienced. Like, you didn't give off any signs of, like, hey, let's go have a date.

[Josie]

Why did you think I wanted to have coffee with you?

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, she was playing hard to get with you, Benjamin.

[Benjamin]

She didn't even want to have coffee with me. It was like pulling teeth. She's like, maybe I can fit you in. I was like, well, perfect. I just need, like.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah,

[Benjamin]

read between the lines.

[Jeffrey]

That means she likes you.

[Josie]

Telling you that I'm gonna make time for you should be indicative of interest.

[Brooke]

No, you need to be real clear.

[Benjamin]

I don't have that Dakota rig. I thought you were just, like, literally busy.

[Brooke]

I mean, she obviously, you know now that she likes you, right? Like, it's very clear.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah. So put all the mom stuff aside. Do you see her, like, as a potential romantic interest for you?

[Benjamin]

I haven't really even thought about it. Like, all I can do is just, like, picture my mom's clothes.

[Jeffrey]

That could be sexy in some circles. It could be.

[Benjamin]

No, it's not like that.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, well, I'm doing more damage than I am helping.

[Brooke]

Can you, like, donate the jacket and then maybe get something?

[Josie]

I'm not changing my wardrobe because of.

[Benjamin]

No, you. You shouldn't change it. I mean, you look amazing at it. I. I was serious when I complimented you.

[Brooke]

Dude, she's never gonna be able to wear that jacket again. Just so you know, she'll find something

[Jeffrey]

out even hotter to wear on your first official date that we. We're gonna send you on it and pay for the day if you want to do this. Benjamin, what do you think?

[Josie]

Can we just not. Don't even ask him. I. I don't know.

[Jeffrey]

You're right. We should probably ask his mom for permission first. Make sure it's okay before he's allowed to go out with. She's crazy.

[Brooke]

I think. I think she's gonna go home.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, you're done with it?

[Brooke]

Her clothes?

[Josie]

Yeah. I don't know if there's coming back from this.

[Brooke]

Yeah, I would agree with that.

[Benjamin]

Hey, Josie, I. I'm sorry. I. I really didn't see it as what you were shooting for, so I apologize. And like, I just don't want it to be awkward when we see each other on the train again. So, like, I really am sorry.

[Josie]

Oh, no, it won't be. I'm probably gonna start taking the bus.

[Brooke]

Oh,

[Jeffrey]

but that's like ignoring him. And when she ignores someone, it means that she likes him.

[Brooke]

Don't read.

[Josie]

I'm throwing that strategy out from now on. I'm never using that again. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.

[Brooke]

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[Jeffrey]

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[Josie]

Yeah, terrible.

[Jeffrey]

Why is that terrible?

[Brooke]

Oh, you know, no one wants to be compared to their mother.

[Jeffrey]

Excuse me, I would like to ask that we destigmatize the idea that moms aren't sexy. Okay, I don't like this narrative that you guys are painting that moms can't be hot.

[Brooke]

Jeffrey, you cannot be attracted to someone who looks like your own mother. It doesn't matter if your own mother is Heidi Klum. It is gross.

[Jeffrey]

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[Brooke]

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[Jeffrey]

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[Brooke]

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[Jeffrey]

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[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

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[Brooke]

All right, Heidi Clum's daughter, give us a call.

[Jeffrey]

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[Jeffrey]

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[Josie]

What?

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