Second Date Update Classic: Valentine's Day Fork

Summary

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Episode Overview

Podcast: Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Episode: Second Date Update Classic: Valentine's Day Fork
Air Date: February 13, 2026
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This episode focuses on a hilariously awkward Valentine’s Day first date that went awry due to a series of strange events—culminating in the mystery of a missing fork, a reservation mix-up, and a big confession. As always, Brooke and Jeffrey help an unlucky-in-love listener get answers by calling their ghosted date, with the goal of securing a second chance at romance.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Setting the Scene: Valentine's Day High Stakes

• [01:05] The hosts discuss how bold it is to have a first date on Valentine’s Day, often the most pressure-filled and romantic day of the year.
  • “Another bold move is to have your first date during the most romantic holiday of the year.” — Jeffrey ([01:30])
• Listener Melissa introduces her date, John, whom she met online. He surprised her by not shying away from the holiday, instead inviting her to a fancy restaurant with a proper reservation.

2. The Infamous Fork Fiasco

• [02:55-03:52] At the crowded restaurant, everything goes sideways when they are only given one fork for the whole meal.
  • “We notice there’s only one fork…So we’re like, okay, I guess we share it.” — Melissa ([03:28])
  • They tried to share the fork, but it quickly became awkward and impractical. Melissa eventually switched to using a spoon.
  • The hosts joke about the unusual intimacy of sharing utensils on a first date.

3. Restaurant Drama: Confrontation and Confusion

• [04:49-05:55] During the meal, the restaurant host pulls John away for a heated, lengthy conversation.
  • The host claims they are taking too long to eat and tells them there is an hour limit on the table. This sparks confusion and frustration for both Melissa and John.
  • “Apparently, the host told John that we were taking too long for our meals, and there was an hour limit.” — Melissa ([06:06])
• John pays the bill and storms out with Melissa, both still baffled and annoyed about the incident.

4. Post-Date Silence: Melissa's Confusion

• [06:47-07:10] Melissa recounts how John was a gentleman, walked her to the door, and promised to call. However, she hears nothing back, leaving her puzzled, especially after such an eventful date.

5. Group Speculation & Sympathy

• The hosts speculate about why John may not have reached out:
  • Embarrassment over the awkward restaurant incident.
  • Possible feelings of being rushed or flustered.
  • Playful suggestion: maybe he shares a phone with his roommate as they shared a fork ([07:02]).

6. John Answers: The Truth Comes Out

• [10:05] The call to John begins. He admits to being embarrassed about the date, clarifying that he really wanted to call Melissa back.

The Big Reservation Secret Revealed

• [11:49-13:50] John confesses:
  • He was unable to get a reservation in his name due to last-minute planning, so the day before the date, he and a friend went to the restaurant. While his friend distracted the host, John checked the reservation book for another reservation under “John.”
  • On Valentine’s Day, he claimed the “John” reservation that wasn’t his, assuming he’d go undetected.
  • “I went up to the reservation book and I looked for another reservation with named John.” — John ([13:04])
  • The original “John” for the reservation showed up, leading to the confrontation with the host.
  • The one-fork debacle made sense: they were actually sitting at a table set for one, not two.
  • “Was John the table for one? Which is why there was only one set of silverware…” — Brooke ([13:40])
  • “Yeah, I…yep, that’s right.” — John ([13:47])

7. Melissa Reacts: Surprise and Understanding

• [14:42-15:21] Melissa is surprised but ultimately sees the effort John put into making the night special.
  • “I do see how much he likes me to go through all that trouble. That is kind of sweet.” — Melissa ([15:21])

8. A Second Chance at Romance

• [16:00] The hosts offer to send Melissa and John on a second date (with the promise of enough utensils this time).
  • “I promise: two forks at the table, your own utensils. What do you think, Melissa?” — Jeffrey ([16:03])
  • Melissa agrees, saying she appreciates the effort and finds it sweet in hindsight.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote | |-----------|-----------|-------| | 01:30 | Jeffrey | “Another bold move is to have your first date during the most romantic holiday of the year.” | | 03:28 | Melissa | “We notice there’s only one fork…So we’re like, okay, I guess we share it.” | | 06:06 | Melissa | “Apparently the host told John that we were taking too long for our meals, and there was an hour limit.” | | 13:04 | John | “I went up to the reservation book and I looked for another reservation with named John.” | | 13:47 | John | “Yeah, I…yep, that’s right.” (admitting they had one fork as it was a table for one) | | 15:21 | Melissa | “I do see how much he likes me to go through all that trouble. That is kind of sweet.” | | 16:03 | Jeffrey | “I promise: two forks at the table, your own utensils. What do you think, Melissa?” | | 16:10 | Melissa | “Yes, I would like to go on another date.” |

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 01:05 — Start of Second Date Update and introduction of Melissa
• 02:55 – 04:00 — Fork-sharing ordeal described
• 04:49 – 05:55 — Restaurant confrontation and confusion
• 10:05 — Hosts call John for his side of the story
• 11:49 – 13:50 — John confesses to stealing the reservation and explains the missing fork
• 14:42 — Melissa reacts to John’s confession
• 16:00 — Hosts offer a second date, and Melissa accepts

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Tone and Style

The episode maintains the signature banter and lighthearted mocking typical of “Brooke and Jeffrey,” with playful ribbing, jokes about restaurant etiquette, and sympathetic camaraderie for both Melissa and John.

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Takeaways & Final Thoughts

• Sometimes dating mishaps are a combination of bad luck, overzealous planning, and a dash of dishonesty—with good intentions gone awry.
• Both the hosts and listeners are reminded that a genuine effort (and some humility) can sometimes turn an embarrassing situation into the foundation for a second chance at love.
• As Jeffrey quips: “The lesson that we're learning is it's okay to be dishonest on a first date as long as it's for a good reason or to possibly get some action.” ([17:44])

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Transcript

[A]

Hey, we got a little Valentine's Day tree for you. Will you be our sweetheart? Oh, wow.

[B]

I have a valentine.

[A]

There we go. It is your second date update. Thank you for finding the podcast. It's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Yeah, and apparently something blew up on the comment section earlier this week.

[B]

Oh, no.

[C]

What did you do?

[B]

Alexis?

[D]

No, not a problem. We never got to talk about in the awkward Tuesday, the girl who got caught at the library doing things. You know, I just. I forgot to look at the comments on that episode. And there was Fenbe. I think I should visit the library more often. Didn't know girls would be that freaky there. Other people. I knew the minute she said at the library it was gonna be something freaky. These book readers are getting crazy.

[A]

I will say, every time I've gone to the library lately, it's been packed.

[D]

Yeah, I mean, what books are in.

[A]

Yeah, I thought people were there to read, but apparently not. Okay.

[D]

I can't believe you thought that, Brooke. Gosh, I'm doing it wrong.

[A]

Yeah. All right, here's your Valentine's Day edition of your second date update. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Second date UPD date.

[C]

Sometimes it takes a bold move to make a first date really stand out.

[B]

Oh, okay.

[C]

Whether that means going in for the kiss right when you meet.

[A]

What?

[C]

Oh, bringing your parents along with you or giving them your car at the end of the night as a little thank you gift for. For meeting up.

[B]

I'll walk from here.

[A]

They sign the title over to you.

[B]

Sounds like a great day for Alexis.

[C]

Another bold move is to have your first date during the most romantic holiday of the year. Oh, Valentine's. That's what happened for one of our listeners, Melissa, who now needs our help on Valentine's Day. So, Melissa, welcome to the show.

[E]

Hi.

[A]

Oh, my goodness.

[C]

Oh, my gosh.

[A]

I'm so curious. Who would ask you out on a first date around this time?

[E]

Oh, well, it was this guy. Met online, actually.

[A]

All right. Okay.

[B]

He's gonna sound silly. Did he in any way say, I don't like you like that?

[A]

See, I feel like he probably just forgot that it was the holiday. I mean, he's a man.

[B]

That's a classic guy.

[C]

A lot of, like, complicated questions. Let's start with an easy one. Does he have a name?

[B]

There it is.

[E]

Yes. His name's John.

[C]

Great.

[F]

John.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Very easy name.

[C]

Tell us about Easy John.

[E]

Easy John. He's really nice. He's so cute. I just thought he was, like, a perfect gentleman.

[A]

Oh, really? What did he do? That was so gentlemanly.

[E]

Okay. Well, he definitely knew that it was Valentine's weekend, and he did. Went above and beyond.

[A]

Oh.

[E]

Booked this really nice restaurant.

[B]

Oh.

[C]

So he didn't shy away from it. He was like, I want to take you on a Valentine's date on Valentine's weekend. Proper.

[E]

Totally. Yeah.

[C]

Put it out there.

[B]

Well, that's good.

[A]

Okay. So how did it go?

[E]

Well, so we get to the restaurant, really nice, but it is so busy.

[A]

Oh, did he have reservations?

[E]

Yes, he made a reservation.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Okay. Wow. Nice restaurant. Like, reservations on Valentine's weekend. It's very romantic, but it could put a lot of pressure on both of you going into that day. Did you feel that pressure, energy at all?

[E]

I felt pressure going into it, but then once I got there, he made me so comfortable.

[A]

Oh, he did? Yeah.

[C]

How was it? Like, did you have a good time with him?

[E]

I had a good time. Like, I. No, no, no. I really liked him. It was just that the atmosphere was so insane and hectic. Like, we get seated, our table, we get our orders in, our food comes out, and we notice there's only one fork. Like, the waiter's so busy, we ask for a fork, but they never bring us another fork. So we're like, okay, I guess we share it.

[A]

Did you. Did you share the fort.

[C]

What?

[E]

We tried to share the fork, but that just, like, took too long because then each person was waiting for the other person to take a bite.

[C]

Seriously? You would take a bite from the fork, and then you'd pass the fork over to John and then he would take a bite from his meal.

[B]

Well, you can't make, like, wait for one to finish. The other person's gonna get cold.

[D]

And if he was a real gentleman, he'd wait for her to finish.

[A]

Gentlemen. He'd just go in the back like I do and steal a fork from wherever the server station is.

[B]

Like, I got first silverware.

[C]

I mean, all the joking aside, isn't that like a weird way to go about your first date sharing utensil?

[E]

Yes, but it was like, sort of. We had a laugh about it. Eventually I switched over to a spoon. It kind of made things a little bit. It made it low stakes because we were like, this is crazy.

[A]

Right, Right. So he cut up your meat for you and then you spooned it into your mouth.

[C]

All right, let's get past the fork. Sharon, what other highlights happened during your restaurant date?

[E]

Okay, so this is where it got a little bit weird.

[A]

Oh, oh, weirder.

[E]

We're finishing up our main course.

[A]

Uh huh.

[E]

And Then the host of the restaurant comes over and asks if he could speak to John, like, away from the table.

[A]

What? That's weird.

[E]

John goes over, has this long conversation. I could see them talking. It looked like a little bit heated.

[A]

I couldn't hear what, so, like, hey, moving. It's a little animated.

[E]

It lasted, like five minutes. It's kind of a long time.

[C]

Is the host a male or a female?

[E]

A guy.

[C]

Okay. I was wondering if it maybe was an ex or something.

[A]

Oh, that's not a bad. Okay, okay.

[C]

Not an ex.

[A]

So what happened?

[E]

Well, okay, so when John comes back from the conversation, he was, like, really upset. And he was like, screw this, we're leaving. The host chases after is like, you still have to pay. Like, I'm in the middle of it. I'm confused. I'm like, what is happening?

[A]

So you're dining and dashing.

[C]

Well, it sounds like they're being kicked out of the restaurant. Not dashing.

[B]

Yeah, well, they're like, you have to pay.

[C]

You have to pay.

[B]

But, hey, if you're kicking me out of a restaurant, I'm not paying either.

[A]

So what'd you do?

[C]

Yeah, what happened?

[E]

Well, John told me to go out and, like, wait in the car and that he would deal with it. And he pays. He settles up.

[C]

Okay.

[E]

When we're on the car ride home, I'm asking him, like, what just happened? That was crazy. Apparently the host told John that we were taking too long for our meals.

[B]

No.

[E]

And there was an hour limit.

[B]

Oh, they do that sometimes.

[C]

Didn't John say it only took so long because we had to share one fork, passing it back and forth?

[A]

That was probably part of his argument.

[B]

Yeah, like, you guys are giving us bad service.

[E]

I mean, and I was supportive. John was, like, really upset about. And I was like, I'm upset, too. That's ridiculous.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

You're having a good time on your day.

[C]

Well, that sucks. That puts, like, a. Definitely a sour taste at the very end of the day. Were you able to end it on a happy note?

[E]

Yeah, I mean, I. He took me home again. He was a perfect gentleman. Walked me to the door, said he would call, we should do it again.

[A]

Oh, really?

[E]

He apologized for the restaurant thing, even though I could tell he was still sort of heated by it, and it wasn't his fault.

[A]

Yeah, I mean. So you haven't heard anything from him since this weekend?

[E]

No.

[A]

Does that feel like, I don't know, maybe he's busy.

[D]

It's weird to do a whole Valentine's Day date and then not Text on Valentine's Day.

[C]

All that build up and nothing could.

[B]

Just be super embarrassed.

[C]

Or maybe he only has one cell phone that he shares with his roommate. Back and forth and so his roommate has the cell phone this week.

[A]

Time limit.

[C]

Yeah. So I don't know. There must be an explanation. We're going to call the number that you gave us. Hopefully it's John. And we'll try and get you your second date update right after this. All right, all right, all right, hold on.

[A]

Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Second date update.

[C]

Two meals, one spoon. Should be the title of our second date today.

[A]

You still shouldn't look that up on the Internet.

[B]

Yeah, well, it's not even that well.

[C]

Because our listener Melissa went on a Valentine's date on the busiest weekend of the year with couples packed into nice restaurants, their waiter was too busy to give them another fork. Sorry, I should have said fork before, but. So they just shared one, which it's a little awkward to do on a.

[A]

First date and made for a long meal.

[C]

Yeah, but it does sound like it helped break the tension of having a pressure filled first day on a holiday like that.

[A]

Totally.

[B]

And they actually got to taste each other's food.

[C]

The weird part, though, was when the host came over to the table during dinner, pulled her date John aside, and they got into a heated conversation, which Melissa couldn't hear. All of it led to John saying, though, screw it, we're gonna leave, dude.

[A]

They basically got kicked out of the restaurant.

[C]

Super awkward. A lot of questions about that, but apparently they were there for too long and the restaurant was trying to turn as many tables as they could that night.

[A]

Oh, my God, So rude.

[C]

So, yeah. Almost ended in disaster. I mean, it did. Melissa, do you think maybe John's just embarrassed that that situation happened on the first date?

[B]

I think think so.

[E]

Maybe. I was also. I was trying to think of anything else weird happened. And I do remember that he wanted to get to the restaurant early and I was like a little bit late getting ready.

[A]

Oh, and he picked you up, right? Like you guys were in the same car?

[E]

Yeah, he picked me up.

[A]

Okay.

[E]

Too late.

[C]

Oh, so you're part of the reason that maybe the reservation.

[A]

Yep, yep. Got shifted.

[C]

But if they only have you blocked out for like an hour of eating and you arrive 20 minutes after your hour, like, they might rush you.

[A]

Yeah, but have you ever dated a woman moment? Like, are we ever on time? I mean, come on. Oh, you should pat it into the reservation time.

[C]

I don't know how I'm apologizing For this, but. Yeah. I'm sorry.

[A]

Thank you.

[D]

Like, just call the restaurant, say you're running late before you even get us.

[B]

Yeah, I would put myself in issues. I don't think I would want to call her back, too.

[A]

Really?

[B]

So embarrassed. You have all these expectations and now you're never gonna. You're always gonna remember the first day. No yelling, storming out of the restaurant.

[A]

We're gonna save this on Valentine's Day.

[B]

But I can see if he is embarrassed.

[C]

We're gonna save it or we're gonna blame John for are really.

[A]

There he is.

[B]

We'll make him say I'm sorry right when he gets on the phone.

[A]

It felt good when you said it.

[C]

You feel good about that, Melissa?

[E]

Yeah, I just want some answer.

[C]

All right, let's get those. I'm going to dial his number right now. Here we go.

[F]

Hello?

[C]

Hey, we're looking for John.

[F]

This is John.

[C]

Hey, John. My. My name is Jeff from a radio show called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning.

[A]

Hey, John.

[C]

Sorry for how seductively my host tried to say that to you, but it is Valentine's Day after all.

[A]

Dear John.

[C]

Okay, all right, John.

[A]

Sorry, I'm just being silly. John. It's just a. Yeah, we're working.

[C]

Yeah, we're kind of a wacky fun show and we do this wacky segment called Second Date Update.

[B]

So wacky.

[F]

Okay.

[C]

And we're trying to help one of our listeners get back in touch with you after you went on a date with her named Melissa.

[F]

Oh, man.

[C]

Yeah.

[F]

Really?

[B]

We heard it was.

[A]

Yeah, we heard. I was. I thought bold move on your part for going on a first date on Valentine's Day weekend and, like, leaning into it.

[C]

Yeah, that's a big deal, dude.

[F]

Melissa called you?

[C]

Yeah, she emailed us and we reached out to her to find out about how you two met and what you guys did on your date. So we have a few of the details. The information we're looking to get from you, though, is why you're not reaching out to her after the date. She says it's been a few days and got nothing.

[F]

Oh, man.

[A]

Oh, my God. Why are you laughing?

[F]

Because this is very embarrassing. You know, I want to call her and. I know. I know I need to call her, but I've just been putting it off because it's such an uncomfortable conversation.

[C]

You weren't physically attracted to her?

[A]

What?

[F]

No. No.

[A]

You got from that?

[C]

Well, I don't know.

[B]

You don't need to tell people that.

[C]

It was a bad guess. Sorry. I get three bad guesses. We all get three bad guesses. That's my first strike.

[D]

Terrible guess.

[C]

What were you embarrassed about?

[F]

So I was really nervous about the date.

[A]

Yeah.

[F]

And so I really wanted it to be a good experience for her, but I waited too long to get dinner reservations, and there was no restaurants open, you know, that had anything open for me.

[A]

Wait, she said that you had reservations and that you guys went to this fancy restaurant?

[F]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I might have done something a little weird.

[A]

What?

[F]

I don't know if she told you, but. So at the restaurant, the waiter pulled me aside.

[A]

Yeah.

[F]

He had like a little conversation with me.

[C]

Yeah. She was mentioning that it got kind of heated between you and the host, but she couldn't hear what was happening.

[F]

Yeah. So basically what happened was the host, he pulled me aside and he's like, are you John? And, you know, I told him that I was. Okay, so what happened was the actual John showed up.

[A]

Wait, wait, wait.

[C]

What?

[A]

You took someone else's reservation that was also named John?

[F]

Yeah, I did.

[C]

How.

[D]

How'd you know there was another John there?

[A]

Did you just go, oh, table for two for John?

[B]

What about Tom? What about Sarah?

[A]

I met Kurt.

[C]

How did this happen?

[F]

So the day before, me and my friend went to the restaurant and I told him to distract the host, and I went up to the reservation book and I looked for another reservation with named John.

[B]

Oh, that's brilliant.

[A]

And like, it's such a generic name.

[F]

Oh, yeah, Yeah.

[A]

I can't tell if I'm flattered that you put. You mean you put energy into making sure you had a table.

[E]

Seriously.

[C]

And it makes sense because Melissa was saying you wanted to get there early and she was running late.

[B]

Oh, yeah, Yeah.

[F]

I thought I could sneak it in there, you know.

[C]

Oh, my God.

[B]

Okay, hold on. The server in me has to ask, was John the table for one? Which is why there was only one set of silverware on the table.

[F]

Yeah, I, I. Yep, that's right.

[B]

I figured it out. Okay.

[C]

Oh my God.

[B]

That's why they only had one for.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

Cuz John was a party of.

[A]

Well, you should have just asked John to join you.

[D]

Yeah, he might have been happier.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Oh, man.

[C]

And you've been waiting to tell Melissa this?

[F]

Yeah, I guess I was just too embarrassed to let her know I had a great time on the date with her, but I just was so ashamed of myself, I guess.

[A]

But you put extra.

[D]

I think it's kind of fun.

[A]

I think that she's gonna think it's fun.

[C]

All the women think that it's great that you took someone else's reservation and stole it from another honest man, but that's okay.

[A]

Table for one?

[C]

I don'. Sure. I wonder how Melissa would feel about that, though. Who actually is on the other line listening to this conversation. Dude. Oh, my.

[F]

Are you kidding me?

[C]

I'm serious.

[F]

You just told her she's on the other line?

[C]

Yeah, she. I think she's still there. Melissa, you there?

[E]

Yeah. Are you serious? That's what happened?

[F]

Oh, my God. Hey, Melissa.

[E]

Why wouldn't you just tell? Why did you have to make a big thing like you made a reservation? We could have gone anywhere.

[C]

Oh, I know.

[F]

We just. We. We clicked so well, and I just wanted to make it special and, you know, I just. I guess I like you a lot, so.

[C]

And when you're starting to vibe with someone online, you don't want to lose that momentum and let it go. Like two, three weeks till the actual date. Exactly. You gotta get face to face as soon as possible.

[A]

Melissa sounds so understanding. You sound good. Right?

[E]

I mean, I guess I do see how much he likes me to go through all that trouble. That is kind of sweet.

[A]

Yeah, but also kind of sketch that he wasn't gonna pay the restaurant bill was. They were leaving. Remember that?

[B]

Kicking it out.

[C]

I think it was just angry.

[F]

I was gonna pay it, but I just didn't want to get busted in front of her, so I just had to get out of there.

[A]

I had to get her out.

[C]

That's sweet. If he commits crimes or makes mistakes, he won't involve you in them.

[A]

See, that is that chivalry. You say it's dead and it's not Jeff.

[C]

Type of promise every man should make. So because of that, I feel the vibes going on here. We'd like to send you guys out on another date, Melissa. That we would pay for.

[A]

We can't get reservations for tonight, though.

[C]

I promise. Two forks at the table, your own utensils. What do you think, Melissa?

[E]

You know, I bet it's weird that that was happening and I had no idea. But I do think that it is. It's actually kind of really nice that you were, like, freaking out so much about it and put all that effort in. So, yes, I would like to go on another date.

[A]

Love is real.

[C]

Look at that. If you're a little bit dishonest on a first date and then admit to your dishonesty later on.

[A]

But it's all in the name of love, Jeff.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, it's fine as long as you say that you don't have to actually believe it. Just say that it's for love, and we can get you a successful relationship. Congratulations, guys.

[F]

Thanks, guys.

[A]

Happy Valentine's Day.

[C]

It's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.

[E]

Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.

[C]

Well, it's official. The hot new first date move is stealing someone else's reservation and claiming it for yourself.

[A]

It's romantic. It's emot.

[B]

I still feel not the right word. Yeah, effort is the right word.

[C]

I mean, Brooke, if you found out that your husband Michael did that for your Valentine's Day and stole some other couple's table, would you. Would your reaction be, oh, Michael, you're so conniving and manipulative and sweet. I love you, dude?

[A]

Yes, I would be impressed. I am not even lying.

[B]

He hasn't been putting an effort.

[A]

Yeah, we got into a fight over how he hadn't planned anything. And so he did finally plan something, right? We had a great Valentine. Well, whatever.

[C]

Did he just find someone with a generic name like Michael at a reservation somewhere? Could be.

[A]

I had a great date on Saturday night.

[B]

There's like, five Mad Michael Fox.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Dang it.

[C]

Well, the lesson that we're learning is it's okay to be dishonest on a first date as long as it's for a good reason or to possibly get some action.

[D]

Everyone benefits from it.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

As long as the girl comes out on top, everybody wins.

[A]

I'm so excited for them. I haven't been as excited for a couple in a long time.

[C]

I feel bad for the original John guy whose reservation got stolen.

[A]

Dude, I feel bad that he was eaten by himself on Valentine's Day weekend, but, you know.

[C]

Yeah. Anyway, he shows up. Of course.

[B]

Someone already has my table.

[E]

Sorry, John.

[C]

We promise not to pile on to you, though. If you need some help with your dating life, email the show. We'll call that person who's not calling you back and find all of our second day podcasts wherever you get yours at Brooke and Jeffrey.