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Brooke
Hey, it's Saturday. We know you need your fix. Okay, it's Brooke and Jeffrey, and you found the second date update podcast. Maybe you're doing laundry, catching up on chores, going for a run. That's why we're gonna give you double the second date today. We got two.
Jeffrey
It's a second date. Second.
Brooke
Yeah, second.
Jeffrey
Second day. There we go.
Brooke
Yeah. Yeah, we got two back to back classics for you to enjoy today, and hopefully it makes your day a little bit better.
Unknown
I think people get a lot of credit for all the good things that they do. Yeah, but don't we also deserve credit for the bad things that we didn't do?
Brooke
Oh, yeah, Jay, I agree.
Unknown
I definitely think so, because one of our listeners went on a beach date with a beautiful woman, and you're gonna hear the one thing he did not do.
Brooke
Oh, we're gonna applaud him for it, huh?
Unknown
Well, he deserves kudos for that. We're still gonna judge him for even thinking it. In fact, our audience might freak out once they hear what it was. But bot, he did not do it.
Brooke
Okay? That makes it feel like he did. Jeff, you keep saying that.
Unknown
Promise you he did. And you can be the judge when you hear it in your second date update. Next. Second date update. Brooke, do you believe people deserve second chances?
Brooke
Yeah. Why do you think I'd be here with you if I didn't?
Unknown
What does that mean?
Brooke
I don't know.
Jeffrey
This show deserves a second chance.
Alexis
Okay.
Unknown
I don't know what I did. I'm serious, though. If somebody makes a mistake, stake, are you willing to let bygones be bygones and give them a fair shake?
Brooke
Yeah. I mean, especially if there's, like, an apology. You know, like if you talk things out, I think you can always work through something.
Unknown
We have a return caller on the phone today named Scott, who you were not too happy with the last time he was on this.
Jeffrey
Oh, do you have an apology ready?
Unknown
Bro, he put a little blue pill into his own drink at the dinner table, and you used the word creep to describe him. So maybe we need to start with an apology from Brooke to Scott here. Go ahead. Brooke, you said you believed in second chances, especially if there's an apology.
Brooke
Here's my question. Have you stopped. Yes, yes, yes. Communication. I am not apologizing. Yeah, that's not gonna happen. But what will happen is if you have stopped sneaking those pills into your drink on a first date.
Unknown
Into your own drink.
Brooke
Hey, still not cool, Jeff. Okay.
Unknown
Have you changed your way, Scott?
Scott
You know, I think I've gotten a lot better since the last time we talked.
Unknown
Okay?
Scott
I really do.
Unknown
So now does he get the apology?
Brooke
For what?
Unknown
He was big enough to look past all the mean things that we called him on the show. Yeah, and give us another chance. I think we should give him another chance with his dating life here.
Brooke
So desperate enough, but okay. Okay. Well, Scott, I'm getting it.
Unknown
It's a little bit of a rough room, but welcome back. Yeah.
Scott
Should I leave or.
Brooke
You're good, man. You're good.
Jeffrey
I think you should.
Unknown
Okay, well, so apparently you've reached out because there is a new woman that you met.
Scott
Yeah. Yeah. Her name's Mandy.
Unknown
Okay.
Brooke
Okay. And how'd you. How'd you meet Mandy?
Scott
I was shopping at a hardware store. She comes up to me and asked me about, like, the stuff I'm looking at.
Brooke
Okay.
Scott
Like she needs help.
Brooke
Oh, does she think you.
Scott
Maybe I look like I was dressed like I worked there or something.
Jeffrey
Or maybe. I mean, just being a guy.
Brooke
I'm sorry. If you're wearing a polo shirt in one of those stores, you automatically think.
Unknown
Especially a white one.
Scott
Yeah, I was wearing an orange and white polo shirt with an apron.
Unknown
Well, this is. I mean, it's giving you the perfect chance to talk to her. So what do you do?
Scott
Oh, well, you know, I thought she was cute, and I was like, look, I don't know how to use works. I'm sorry.
Brooke
Oh, you're.
Scott
I barely know what I'm looking at here. But I thought she was cute, and I told her that, and I asked her if she wanted to go out, and she said yes.
Brooke
Wow. Just right there on the spot.
Unknown
That was really quick. So did you end up seeing her for an actual date?
Scott
Yeah, we did. And I really wanted to avoid doing something stupid.
Brooke
Okay.
Unknown
Okay.
Jeffrey
That should always be.
Brooke
That is such a good lesson to take from this show.
Unknown
Yeah. So what was the date like?
Scott
We went to the beach.
Brooke
Oh, interesting.
Scott
Yeah. So we were, like, hanging out. We were just, like, people watching. And I thought it would be funny if we were, like, started to rate the women who walked by.
Unknown
Oh, God.
Brooke
But I didn't do it.
Unknown
I didn't do it.
Scott
I didn't do it.
Unknown
You didn't do that?
Scott
I didn't do it.
Alexis
Okay.
Unknown
You had the thought, but you didn't follow through with it.
Scott
Yeah. No. I want you guys to know all the bad ideas I didn't do.
Unknown
This is growth. This is exactly what we wanted from you.
Brooke
It was hard for me to even hear that that was one of your thoughts. Is there a worse idea that you had than that?
Unknown
What else didn't you do?
Scott
All right, so, like, the sun started to set, and I brought my camera. I like to take pictures and stuff, and I started to photograph a sunset.
Brooke
Okay.
Unknown
Okay.
Scott
What I wanted to do was ask her a model for me. Didn't do that.
Unknown
Oh, you didn't? Okay.
Brooke
It's not too bad. I mean, some women would be flattered by, like, you want my picture, model.
Jeffrey
And just saying pose is different.
Brooke
Yeah. Yeah.
Unknown
Some would be offended that you weren't asking them to model. It's like, hey, get out of my frame. Trying to capture the sunset.
Scott
Don't make me get more in my head. I tried to do my best.
Unknown
Yeah. That was a good thing.
Brooke
That was smart.
Unknown
Anything else?
Scott
I. I also didn't tell her about the camera because, like, I'm a big camera nerd. And I was like, I could go on for days about the tech specs of the camera.
Ryan Seacrest
Okay.
Unknown
Camera specs. Hot Alexis or not hot?
Brooke
I don't know.
Unknown
You don't know what it is? Like, just talking about the different features of the camera.
Brooke
Let's go with not aperture.
Unknown
That was a good choice. Don't tell her about the details of your camera. Good call.
Scott
Yeah, I, for some reason, kept thinking about gas prices. Didn't bring that up.
Brooke
Are you focused on the date at all? Did you talk much?
Unknown
Yeah. What did you talk about?
Brooke
What did you do?
Scott
Well, I mean, we talked about, like, our recent dating history. I've been on a lot of dates. She's only been on one lately.
Brooke
See?
Jeffrey
Do you think did that rubber the wrong way at all? Did you notice?
Scott
Once I knew that she hadn't been on as many dates, I sort of backed off and didn't, like, go into detail.
Jeffrey
Okay, good. Yeah, you don't want to hound that.
Scott
I didn't tell her that I was on the radio and what I was on the radio for.
Brooke
For your last one.
Unknown
You're making a lot of good decisions here. So how do you end this night with Mandy?
Scott
Walked her. Actually, she walked me to my car first. I guess we gave each other a hug.
Brooke
Okay.
Scott
I considered taking out the guitar from my trunk to play a song, but I did not do it. Dude, I learned my lesson from Barbie. You don't do that. Women don't like that.
Brooke
That's right.
Unknown
All right, maybe not till, like, the third or fourth day.
Brooke
Then you pull out your Matchbox 20.
Unknown
Soundtrack to see, overall, that sounds pretty solid. What's happened since then?
Scott
You know, I thought it went well, too, but nothing. Radio silence. Haven't heard a thing.
Brooke
Wow. Interesting. I wonder if you're just, like, two up in your head and you weren't able to actually be yourself. You know? Like, I feel like the whole time you're telling yourself what not to do, not how great you are.
Unknown
Yeah. Maybe you should bust out those blue pills again and see how it goes. Brooks back on board.
Scott
Okay, well, you know, you guys made me think that maybe I'm not so great, so.
Brooke
No, no, no, no, no. We didn't think that. No, I didn't mean that he wasn't a good.
Scott
I believe the word creep was tossed around.
Brooke
Well, it was almost creep. It was a bad assumption to make on a first date.
Unknown
Has he redeemed himself from the creep label in this date so far?
Brooke
Yeah, we haven't talked to her yet, Jeffrey.
Unknown
All right, so so far, it's pretty good. We're going to get the rest of the story when we call Mandy for you and try and get you your second date update right after this. Okay?
Scott
Sounds good.
Unknown
All right. Don't move, you creep. Here we go. Second date update. If you missed the first part of the second date, we got a returning listener to the show, Scott, back with us. He went down a list of things he considered but did not do on his date with Mandy, including, he didn't ask her to rate the other women on the beach. On a scale of 1 to 10. He thought about it, but to his credit, didn't do it.
Brooke
You get credit when you think about it.
Unknown
Still, I guess we're taking baby steps with Scott here. Also, when they went to the parking lot for their goodbye hug, he considered taking out his guitar for a little John Mayer serenade, but said, no, Brooke wouldn't like me to do that.
Brooke
I actually probably would have fell for that if I was the one on the date for him. Well, I'm sorry. I'm a sucker for a guitar. He's such a stereotype. I really am.
Jeffrey
What else you got in that trunk? Yeah, well.
Unknown
So, Scott, if we call her and she says that you whipped it out, I'm going to be slightly disappointed because I thought you made significant growth here. And that's not a little blue pill joke. That's just an honest observation of you.
Brooke
I want to hear her side of the story.
Jeffrey
Whip out his growth.
Brooke
No, there is something wrong in my head, and I just can't listen anything that you're saying with A clean thought.
Ryan Seacrest
Okay, well, that's.
Unknown
That's you projecting what you want to hear me say. That has nothing to do with what I'm saying.
Jeffrey
I think the listeners hearing, too.
Unknown
I'm saying that Scott has turned a page. The only weird part is his date Mandy has completely ghosted afterwards. So let's find out what that's about. Scott, you ready to do this?
Scott
Let's do it.
Brooke
Look at that. You did the whole first half not getting shamed for anything. Scott, I think this is already a good sign of how this falls. Did we not shame him?
Jeffrey
He's only said three words.
Unknown
If anything, Brooke is the creepy pervert who's thinking bad thoughts. So there we go.
Brooke
Yeah, that's when I keep the thoughts in inside. Jeff, you said.
Unknown
He didn't just.
Brooke
You said that. That's a win.
Unknown
You said. Okay, there we go. We're all on the winning page here. Let's call Mandy now. Let's do it. Here we go.
Mandy
Hello?
Unknown
Hi, is this Mandy?
Mandy
Yes, speaking.
Unknown
Hey, Mandy. This is a radio show. My name is Jeff, and I'm part of Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning.
Mandy
Sorry, you're what?
Unknown
Sorry, did I say that? Weird.
Brooke
Yeah. Hey, Mandy.
Mandy
Hey.
Unknown
There's a random person in the background who just said hi to you.
Brooke
I just told her who I was.
Unknown
I guess technically we work together, but. Yeah, that's Brooke. I'm Jeff, and you're on Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning with a whole room full of people.
Brooke
Yeah. Jose and Alexis are here, too.
Unknown
Hello?
Mandy
What? What are you calling me about?
Unknown
Okay, get right to it. So this is called the Second Date Update. It's a segment where we try to help our listeners reconnect with somebody after they've gone out with them once. And you went out with a guy who listens to our show named Scott?
Mandy
Yeah. So What?
Unknown
Oh, well. Well. So Scott had a really good time at the beach with you, and he.
Mandy
Was hoping that it was a nice time. It was fine. I won't speak badly on anybody. It was a nice time.
Unknown
Okay, well, if you had a good time. We're just trying to help Scott figure out why there hasn't been a second date.
Brooke
Yeah. He wants to see you again.
Unknown
The way that he described your communication afterwards was radio silent, which we appreciate.
Jeffrey
Because we want to keep the word radio relevant.
Unknown
Yeah, but we understand Scott doesn't like that. So is there a reason?
Mandy
Well, yeah. I mean, I feel like it was pretty obvious it was just a complete turnoff for me that he had been on eight dates already. This year that he's just kind of juggling all these women, whereas I'm in a different place. I've only been on one date. Like, it's just felt like different life.
Brooke
Arenas, he's been on eight dates. And that's too many for you?
Mandy
Yeah, I mean, he's just. What does he have, like a little Rolodex?
Brooke
That's not. Like you can still count that on two hands. I think that's fine.
Mandy
I don't know, I just. I'm just more traditional person. I'm not into the short term casual dating that a lot of guys are looking to hook up nowadays. I'm not looking for that.
Brooke
But do you know that he even hooked up with all those people? Or was it just like a. It could just be bad days. It doesn't even mean.
Jeffrey
Did he say you hooked up with him?
Mandy
He had a look in his eyes. He kind of implied it. I wasn't gonna ask.
Jeffrey
Like, you think he'd be bragging about a bunch of failed dates?
Brooke
Guys, we could guarantee that one of those dates he did not hook up.
Unknown
Yeah. We got into his dating history before and, yeah, it hasn't worked out for him. But you're saying he's coming across like a player to you.
Mandy
Yeah, and my belief is that if you spend an hour or two with somebody, you know what you need to know, you know if it's right, and if you want to make things a little more serious. So if he was willing to commit to something a little more serious, I would say yes. But it sounds like he dates a lot and he's not looking for something like that.
Unknown
Honestly, we don't know, like, what the state of his current dating situation is. All we know is that he reached out to us to get another date specifically with you.
Brooke
Yeah.
Unknown
So that should tell you something. And we should probably ask him about it if he does have a giant roster of girls that he's seeing because he is on the phone right now. What?
Jeffrey
Can I get a hand off over here?
Brooke
What's up, dog?
Unknown
Yeah, he's listening to this and wants to talk to you. Yeah.
Scott
Hey, man. How's it going?
Mandy
Hi.
Unknown
Really turned it on.
Brooke
Was that sarcastic baby or was that sincere?
Mandy
I just wasn't expecting to be having this conversation in this format.
Jeffrey
That was a nervous reaction.
Scott
Yeah. I'm just not sure what I did wrong. You just think I'm a player.
Mandy
Yeah.
Scott
I'm not a player.
Mandy
You're not getting any younger.
Scott
I mean, I'm definitely dating in hopes to meet someone to be with. Yeah.
Brooke
Okay, that's a good sign.
Unknown
You're not just doing it for the sport.
Jeffrey
Yeah.
Brooke
Date for fun. You can date for fun. That's okay, too.
Scott
I didn't realize that I had to commit after an hour.
Jeffrey
Yeah, that was a little.
Unknown
It sounds like. Scott, the only way that Mandy is willing to even consider going out with you is if you agree to, like, right now, not see anybody else and give it a hundred percent with her. Is that something?
Brooke
A big assumption, Jeff. Are you sure that's what she's saying?
Unknown
That's what I'm hearing. Is that right, Mandy?
Mandy
Yeah. I had a feeling when I was on the date. I don't know if that was mutual.
Brooke
What was the feeling?
Mandy
Just that I could see myself with this person. I could see this progressing into something real.
Jeffrey
So you did see chemistry. You just thought, hey, he's in this phase of dating, and you're not in that phase of dating.
Mandy
Right, exactly. And I'm not looking to get hurt.
Brooke
So quick to give up on it.
Unknown
I know. Well, you were turned off because you thought that he's dating lots and lots and lots of women. All right? Now, you don't want to be amongst a huge list of women.
Mandy
Yeah, if it's me, it's me.
Unknown
Okay, so, Scott, is that something that you're even willing to consider dropping any other girl that you're talking to right now and only focusing on Mandy?
Jeffrey
You're gonna clear the roster, bro.
Scott
I mean, I'm not talking to anybody else right now. Good answer.
Unknown
Okay, nice.
Brooke
Mandy, he was already only talking to you.
Unknown
Maybe we should just go right to this, then and ask Mandy, would you consider going out with Scott again? If he says right now he is willing to commit 100% to you, not to anybody else.
Brooke
Exclusive is scary.
Unknown
Basically agree to enter a relationship on this show?
Jeffrey
Potentially.
Unknown
It's not potentially. You have to give in right now 100%. Give yourself to her.
Brooke
Trying to help.
Unknown
Am I off? Mandy, I'm sorry.
Mandy
I feel like you're a little laughing at me, but, like.
Unknown
I'm not laughing.
Mandy
Yeah, that is what I'd like.
Unknown
Okay.
Brooke
Okay.
Unknown
Well, Scott, the terms have been laid out. What do you say?
Scott
Why not? Let's give it a shot.
Jeffrey
Oh, why not?
Brooke
Yeah, I mean, I think why not? He has no other options right now. I don't know if you heard that right. Yeah.
Unknown
Congratulations. Scott has agreed to commit 100 to you.
Scott
Look, Mandy, I think you're great. I usually don't commit this early, but I honestly, I want to spend More time with you.
Unknown
Aw, that's actually cute. Mandy. Isn't that nice?
Brooke
Are you excited?
Jeffrey
Mandy, you can't break up with him.
Mandy
I'm glad you said that. You were really open and vulnerable on your end. So I'm going to be that way with you that technically I'm engaged.
Brooke
What?
Unknown
Wait, what?
Jeffrey
Oh my God.
Mandy
That's why I need the commitment. That's why I need the buy in wait to end it with him.
Brooke
Hold on. What was your explanation?
Mandy
Why like that's why I need to know if he's in this or not with me.
Jeffrey
So if you break off your marriage, you can run to him.
Brooke
Engagement, not a marriage. Because she needs to know if the backup plan is set before she dumps the current guy.
Unknown
Is that really what's happening?
Brooke
Dude, she's crazier than he is.
Mandy
Okay, you don't need to listen to them. I'm just really excited to spend time with you.
Scott
No, we're not hanging out.
Unknown
Okay, maybe Scott, now you should tell you wanted to raid all the other women on the beach on your date.
Scott
I didn't know.
Unknown
Okay, well, the good news is, Scott, at the end of the day, the big takeaway. You didn't do anything wrong. You did nothing wrong. You just ended up with a strict, controlling, pre engaged kind of nut job. So congratulations.
Brooke
Pre engaged. Very engaged. Very engaged. She's still on the phone. Yeah.
Unknown
You have fun you two.
Scott
I'm gonna ask the radio station to figure out who your fiance is and.
Michelle
To give me his number.
Unknown
Doesn't he sound so in love?
Jeffrey
He sounds like he's nervous for the date.
Brooke
Ye, yeah.
Unknown
Now you could serenade her with your guitar. Scott.
Brooke
Good work Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
Unknown
Oh man, with that woman on the phone. Now it all makes sense. How? She's only been with one man in the last year cuz that was her fiance.
Brooke
Yes. Oh. Oh God.
Jeffrey
I never put that together.
Brooke
But aren't we applauding her for what she didn't do? Go on other dates with her fiance?
Unknown
She still went on this one. But again, that is on us. Us for not saying, hey, how did your last relationship end? Because her answer would have been, it hasn't ended. We're engaged right now.
Brooke
I see. That's all.
Jeffrey
I'm just looking for a backup.
Unknown
How did we miss that? Brooke, where were you on that question?
Brooke
My head is not in the game today.
Unknown
Step it up on these calls. Going here on out, that would have saved us a whole lot of time. But in the end, happy ending kind of for Who?
Jeffrey
No, definitely not her fiance.
Brooke
For her. I mean, she's got the pick of the litter.
Jeffrey
Yeah, that's. It's for her.
Unknown
She's got commitment from not one, but two different men.
Jeffrey
I'm sure there's a couple people on the text board that want her too.
Brooke
Yes.
Unknown
But we can have you living your happily ever after if you email the show. We'll call that person who's not calling you back. And go check out all of our second day podcasts wherever you get yours at. BrookeandJeffrey.
Brooke
Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
Unknown
The skeptics in this studio are saying today's second date is one of the greatest scams ever polled in dating history. I'm not gonna say who those people are.
Brooke
Okay.
Unknown
But I will say that I am much more open minded. Oh, yeah, I'm more open hearted. All my body parts are open. I am so open for this right now. And I want you to text into 78592 as the second date is running. Are you on my side of pure openness or do you stand with the cross legged skeptics in the room?
Brooke
I feel like people are committing to something else by answering. And if our managers check the text board later in the day and didn't listen to this, they are going to be very, very concerned.
Unknown
Let your thoughts fly free and open as you hear what happens in your brand new second date update. Next second date update. We don't normally hear about this on second dates or I don't know if maybe it just doesn't happen a lot. I'm not sure. But in today's call, our listener Michelle says that she paid for the entire first date that they went on. Drinking, drinks, food, and the activity that they did together. And then after doing all of that, wouldn't you know it, she's not getting a call back.
Jeffrey
How does it feel to be a guy?
Unknown
All that effort for no reward.
Jeffrey
Why wouldn't the guy at least do one thing?
Brooke
I mean, I don't know. If she's the one that set the date up, then it's her responsibility to contest.
Jeffrey
Yeah, that's. I think Alexis is right too.
Unknown
Yeah. Before we jump to any conclusion, conclusions here, let's talk to Michelle and find out what happened. Michelle, how you doing?
Brooke
Hi. I'm good.
Michelle
How are you guys doing?
Brooke
Hey, good's a good start. Since you're on the phone with us, some people come in a little bit more fragile.
Unknown
You seem like you're in good spirits, but yeah, clearly something's going wrong. If this Guy isn't calling you back. So tell us about the situation. Who is he?
Michelle
Well, his name is Calvin. We met on a dating app.
Brooke
Okay. I mean, my first question is, are you the one that initiated all the contact?
Michelle
And it was pretty mutual in the beginning when we exchanged numbers. We were just going back and forth, and we spoke on the phone a few times and FaceTimed. But I had. The topic of self care had came up during one of our conversations.
Jeffrey
Would you say self care?
Michelle
Yeah, self care, yeah.
Unknown
Okay, good.
Michelle
And so I asked him if he ever had a man named Petty. And he. And he said, no.
Brooke
Every man should get a man. It makes sense.
Michelle
Why exactly.
Jeffrey
My best friend gets Mannies and petties, but I've never done it.
Brooke
They feel so good.
Unknown
I had a guy friend going for a mani. Petty lost his foot.
Michelle
Oh, my God.
Unknown
So they have nail files.
Brooke
Don't go to Back Alley, man.
Unknown
Yeah, well, yeah, the place that he went wasn't accredited, but, yeah, they were.
Jeffrey
Like, hey, put your foot in this bucket.
Unknown
I'm assuming that you probably took him to a more reputable place, like a spa, maybe. Yeah, that was super nice. Okay, so was there any indecision about who was going to pay for this part of the date?
Brooke
The Manny Petty part?
Michelle
Yeah, well, we didn't discuss it ahead of time, but I paid for the whole thing because he didn't have his wallet. He didn't know where it was. So, I mean, it wasn't. It wasn't a big deal to me.
Unknown
Whoa.
Jeffrey
He just happened to lost his wallet?
Brooke
What do you mean? Like, the scene? Like, you don't find this out till, what, you're standing at the register?
Michelle
Yeah. So we got to the counter, and he looked like he was attempting to pay. Like he was patting down his pockets and stuff like that. And he's like, oh, man, I don't. I don't have my wallet. It looks like I don't even have my wallet. I don't know.
Jeffrey
Like, it hit him at the right.
Unknown
Oh, how embarrassing.
Brooke
This is like, when girls go to the bars, you're like, I've never tried tequila. So somebody buys you it. I've never had my nails done. Then you get it paid for.
Unknown
That's so smart.
Jeffrey
I would totally buy a girl a shot if she's like.
Brooke
And whose phone isn't connected these days to your credit card? You know what I mean?
Unknown
My phone is not connected to my credit card. Credit card, by the way.
Brooke
And you don't pay for anything. Yeah, exactly.
Unknown
It's called a life Hack. Brooke. So thank you for lunch after this.
Michelle
I thought of that, too. I was like, oh, you can just cash out if you want, or whatever. And he was like, he doesn't do that because someone had stole his credit card information at one point, you asked.
Brooke
Him to cash out, but he said no.
Unknown
Why not, Venmo?
Michelle
Well, he didn't have. He didn't have any links.
Unknown
Okay. This guy, he's had a rough. He's had a rough go with the payment stuff in his past, so let's give him a break on that. Okay, so. But there was more after the mani. Petty, it sounds like.
Michelle
Yeah. So he loved it. And then after the nail salon, we went to a bar, and then all of a sudden, he found his wallet. I guess he didn't realize, oh, my.
Unknown
Gosh, right after you're done paying as.
Brooke
A guy, you don't even have a purse.
Jeffrey
I know.
Brooke
Maybe he was wearing cargo pants. There are so many pockets in those things.
Unknown
It's true.
Michelle
It was like in a pocket within a pocket. It was like the secret.
Brooke
Suddenly I found my ID so I can go into drinking this water.
Unknown
That's fate. Smiling on your date right there.
Brooke
So, I mean, at that point, he should pay for the drinks, I think.
Jeffrey
Yes.
Unknown
Did he pay for the drinks at least?
Michelle
Well, let's rewind a little bit. So he had his ID in the wallet, but he didn't have any money in his wallet because he had just made a payment right before he left his house. And I can understand, like, he was nervous about the d. No, there's no understanding.
Brooke
Why are we calling him? I mean, look, he's scamming her.
Unknown
Alexis doesn't trust a guy unless he leaves the credit card at Alexis house.
Jeffrey
Guys, have we thought. And I don't want to make this sad, but he. He doesn't have a lot of money. It's embarrassing. You don't just tell Someone. I have $3 in my bank. I've been there.
Brooke
Pick a date where you can afford something then.
Ryan Seacrest
Sure.
Unknown
But what if this is all true, though? What if he actually couldn't find his wallet and he was really nervous about a date with a great girl and was just making money mistakes.
Brooke
Okay, if. If it was true, Jeff, I would think that he would call her for a second date to, you know, even the. Even if. Even if he wasn't super interested. If it was true, he'd be like, let's go out again so I can treat you next time when you get home.
Unknown
Yes, but the embarrassment and the shame of having to do that is really overwhelming for some people.
Jeffrey
I mean, my heart drops just thinking about that.
Brooke
I don't know. She sounds pretty nice. She sounds like it didn't bother her one bit.
Unknown
Like, I mean, how did you feel about it, Michelle?
Michelle
Well, you know, everything went really great on our date. I didn't mind paying. Things happen in life. And yeah, I went into it with an open mind and just wanted to get to know him. We had great conversations, so I was for it.
Brooke
Yeah.
Unknown
Okay. But at this point after the date, he's not calling you back.
Michelle
Right? Like I'll text and sometimes he doesn't respond at all. And sometimes he does and it's kind of like, sure gift.
Brooke
Yeah, that's wrong with Brooke. Like, why is he not taking you out to repay?
Jeffrey
I think we're saying that's right. With Brooke, you just don't respond to her.
Unknown
No. Or maybe he just forgot what pocket his phone was in and he's like, oh, it's usually in this pocket. Now it's in my jacket pocket.
Brooke
Where is he finding all of these clothes with tiny hidden pockets?
Michelle
I mean, I kind of gathered that. Maybe he's like embarrassed about it and. Yeah, that could be it.
Jeffrey
You always had fun with him. Like you want to.
Michelle
I did. I just want to know what's up. What's the deal? I can't wait forever, but I do. I like his vibe.
Unknown
Okay, well, maybe his ego is a little bit down right now, but I think just the fact that we call him and tell him that you're still interested would be a huge boost to it.
Brooke
Oh, for sure.
Unknown
So let's do that. We'll come back. We're gonna call Calvin for you and try and get you a second date update right after this. Second date update. Are we just a jaded, cynical bunch of radio sleaze bags judging people on the surface?
Brooke
Wait, is that a question? Of course we are.
Jeffrey
It's our job.
Unknown
We shouldn't take that much pride in it. Cuz for the first time in probably over two years, a woman has come on the show and said she paid for everything on a first date. Cuz the guy forgot his wallet or, you know, misplaced it for a second at least. And most of us instantly thought, oh, this guy's a total, total scam artist who doesn't deserve a date, let alone any love in his life. But I don't know that we went that far.
Brooke
Yeah. Is that what you were thinking in your head?
Unknown
I heard Alexis say, why do you even want to call this guy but that's okay.
Brooke
Keep going with the story, though. It gets worse. That's why she's doubling down.
Unknown
The bottom line is Michelle says she had a great time with him, felt the connection, and thought maybe his nervousness just caused him to make a few bonehead mistakes.
Jeffrey
Yeah, he was nervous because he didn't have.
Unknown
Have a lot of money, but then.
Brooke
He found his wallet, not just his credit card. I don't know. Yeah.
Unknown
The thing is, Michelle is willing to give him the benefit of the doubt in that situation. Can we do the same? Find the good in him?
Brooke
Does it have to? Sounds a little scammy, but we'll try.
Jeffrey
Well.
Unknown
I guess the weird part is afterwards, Calvin isn't offering to repay her or even reaching out for another. That's the weird part. Our. Our thought is maybe nervousness and embarrassment. Where are you at, Michelle?
Michelle
Yeah, I. I feel like he was nervous and embarrassed. I mean, you guys weren't there, so.
Brooke
That's a good point.
Jeffrey
Yeah, very true. And we also make light of stuff.
Brooke
Totally. We're half joking.
Unknown
Yeah, but you feel like he's a good guy deep down.
Michelle
Yeah, I'm. I'm all about the person and not money. So.
Unknown
Alexis just rolled her eyes at you. So sorry about me.
Brooke
You don't know. That's.
Jeffrey
Personality.
Scott
Yeah.
Unknown
Let's just call Calvin, though, because I do want to hear what he has to say about this. So here we go. I'm dialing his number right now.
Alexis
Hello?
Unknown
Hey, is this Calvin?
Alexis
Yeah, this Calvin. What's going on?
Unknown
Hey.
Brooke
Hey, Calvin.
Unknown
We're a radio show, and we're hoping to talk to you about your dating life a little bit.
Brooke
Bit.
Alexis
What? What are you talking about?
Unknown
Yeah, I know it sounds a little bit weird, but it's a segment that we do called a second date Update, and that's where we help our listeners reconnect with somebody that they went out on a date with if they're not able to get a second one. Yeah.
Alexis
Okay. So what's going on?
Jeffrey
Someone waiting for you?
Brooke
Yeah, Someone's interested in you. Is that surprising at all to you, Calvin?
Alexis
The way my life going and. Yes, that's very surprising.
Brooke
Oh, well, hold on.
Unknown
Don't get doubt on your. Because this is Michelle. You guys went and got like, manicure pedicure stuff together.
Alexis
Oh, my God.
Unknown
Oh, okay.
Jeffrey
I laughed because that was like a very much.
Brooke
If he's embarrassed by the date, that makes sense. That's a natural reaction.
Unknown
We heard a little from Michelle about it. We heard that she, like, misplaced your wallet. And couldn't pay and then found it later, bro.
Jeffrey
It sounded like a mess. And it didn't paint you in the best light, unfortunately.
Brooke
I mean, and then there was, like, the excuse that you don't do any cash app or memo.
Unknown
Okay, sorry, we're not trying to pile on you here, but, I mean, and also your name. How did you feel about the wallet situation?
Alexis
I'll be real with you. I feel really bad about the whole night.
Brooke
Oh, buddy, just.
Alexis
I'm just not at a really good point right now financially, which makes dating hard. You know? I really do feel bad about the whole night, man.
Unknown
Okay.
Brooke
Oh, you don't have to feel bad. She's still really interested in you.
Jeffrey
Yeah, we actually brought that up to her. Like, he made. Not having. She did not.
Brooke
A text is free, so why are you not. I'm just saying, why not text your bag.
Unknown
Don't take that from the woman who has her mom pay her cell phone bill. Okay.
Brooke
This is not free. We.
Unknown
Some of. Calvin, we know that. We know that you ended up finding your wallet right before you got to the bar. Was that just so that you could get your ID to get in?
Alexis
Yeah, because I just didn't know how to tell her I didn't have any money.
Brooke
Yeah.
Unknown
Okay.
Brooke
I mean, the thing is, is, like, she sounds so open and cool, like, you should have just suggested a date that didn't cost as much.
Unknown
She knows that we all go through tough times. So let's say that she was still interested after the disaster of your first date.
Brooke
I think we just said that.
Unknown
What is your take on that?
Alexis
I mean, honestly, I would probably say no. She's just too good for me. I don't want to waste her time.
Brooke
Why would you say that? Everybody goes through hard times.
Unknown
Yeah.
Alexis
Yeah, but I don't want to bring her into my drama and all my stuff.
Brooke
Are you not single?
Jeffrey
Yeah.
Unknown
Is there more before you answer? Then we get too deep into this, I want to bring on someone who's more important than any of us in this room, and that's Michelle, who's been waiting patiently on the other line listening to this call, wanting to talk to you.
Alexis
Hey. What are you talking about? She on the phone?
Unknown
Yeah.
Jeffrey
Yeah.
Unknown
That's how this segment works. We have them listening.
Brooke
Sorry.
Unknown
Michelle, are you there?
Michelle
Hi, Calvin.
Alexis
Hey, Michelle.
Michelle
I mean, I haven't heard from you, so I'm really happy to hear your voice.
Alexis
I just want to apologize up front. I'm just going through a lot right now. I don't have a job, so I Just don't want to waste your time, honestly.
Michelle
I mean, that just means you're. You're an entrepreneur. I think you're just looking at this whole thing wrong.
Unknown
Oh, wait a minute.
Jeffrey
What do you mean by that, Looking at it wrong?
Unknown
Interesting.
Michelle
I mean, every business owner goes through this in the beginning. You know, I'm sure even the YouTube owners struggled. Airbnb owners struggled in the beginning. This is just. And I'm. I'm willing to stick by his side.
Jeffrey
You know, when he's working out of his garage before he's a billionaire.
Brooke
You're saying he was already rich, but. Yeah. I don't know.
Jeffrey
Dang it.
Brooke
Yeah.
Unknown
Okay, well, I mean, Calvin, she's willing to give you the benefit of the doubt on having no job job.
Alexis
Yeah, but I'm, like, fully broke, man. Like, I have no money, and I'm really. I'm serious. I feel like she's such a good person. I just feel like I'll be wasting her time.
Michelle
No, that. It's not that. You don't have any. You're not materialistic. It's not about money with you.
Brooke
Oh, God. She says everything. I love this.
Jeffrey
You guys may be good together.
Brooke
Some of my best relationships, they were men who didn't have hope.
Unknown
Yeah, that's true.
Jeffrey
Brooke loved them the most.
Unknown
Well, okay, one lived in his car.
Brooke
The other one lived in his brother's house.
Unknown
We'll tell your husband to give up the house and move into your Kia.
Brooke
Okay. I'm just saying that it's a hard.
Unknown
Thing for her husband to hear. The best relationships with the homeless.
Brooke
No, I said some. He's obviously my best. Why do you have to compare everything? Jesus, it's like talking to my husband right now. I had relationships.
Unknown
You're hearing a happy relationship on the.
Brooke
Phone, trying to be positive for these people.
Ryan Seacrest
Jeffrey.
Unknown
Excuse me. Sorry. Continue.
Michelle
Michelle, he's not homeless. He has a home. If he needs to come here.
Unknown
Wow.
Jeffrey
Is that an offer?
Unknown
Did you just offer girl Calvin?
Alexis
I mean, I. I never thought about it or anything like that. I honestly. Be real with you. I felt like even that night, I was kind of getting on her nerves because I was talking a lot of junk about my ex girlfriend.
Jeffrey
Oh, well, that's the thing. Don't bring it up now.
Brooke
Wait, why? Yeah, obviously. Did you not learn anything from the last 30 seconds of my life?
Jeffrey
Everything is now. Everything is good.
Unknown
Michelle, did you have a problem with him talking about his ex the whole night?
Michelle
No, I. I took it as. It means that he's really passionate about love, and he still believes in it.
Brooke
You cannot bring her down. No, I need to call her every time I'm having a bad day so she could spit it for me.
Unknown
I mean, I think Brooke, she sees this little lump of coal and spots a diamond in the future.
Brooke
Dude, he's Aladdin right now.
Unknown
Yeah, and there's nothing wrong with wanting to change a man to be better.
Michelle
I don't need to change him. I don't need to change him. He's perfect the way he is.
Unknown
Right? That's really nice.
Brooke
Don't pass this up. Calvin, this is like, once in a lifetime you meet a person like this.
Unknown
I mean, we would love to offer you guys to go out on another date Date. And we would pay for it if you're willing to at least give it a shot. Calvin. That way, you don't have to worry.
Michelle
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Unknown
What?
Michelle
Listen, guys, this is my money, my choice. I want to pay for the date and let him know I am by his side.
Brooke
Okay? Wow.
Jeffrey
I wouldn't feel bad for TGI Fridays.
Michelle
Yeah.
Brooke
This is a poor financial decision. Even Alexis knows that.
Unknown
Calvin, I mean, what are you gonna say? Are you willing to give her a chance to pay for your next date? She's offering.
Alexis
I be honest with you, Michelle. Thank you for even just understanding what I'm going through and wanting to be there for me. So, yes, I would love to go on the same.
Brooke
Man. Oh, this turned out so good, it, like, chipped away at my little jaded heart.
Jeffrey
So good you couldn't even tell Brooke.
Unknown
Well, congratulations, you two. You're gonna meet up.
Alexis
Michelle, for real. Are you sure you want to go out with me after all?
Brooke
It is.
Alexis
Because, you know, every time on a date, I'm just talking about myself.
Jeffrey
Wait, what?
Brooke
What, is that a rule, or you just. Maybe we could not do that.
Michelle
I just looked at it like, you're opening up to me. You feel comfortable opening up to me.
Jeffrey
Just not his wallet.
Brooke
Brooke and Jeffrey free in the morning.
Unknown
We're getting a lot of texts coming in at 78592 about this second date. Someone said, we absolutely have to get an update. Update from these two? She is the most understanding woman in the world.
Brooke
Seriously is. I know. I'm actually, like. I'm worried about her. Not necessarily in this relationship, but just in life. Is she gonna get taken advantage of? Can you live. Can you live that open and kind?
Jeffrey
She's gonna meet a guy who's like, yeah, I murdered a bunch of people, and she, like, you sound very passionate.
Brooke
Yes.
Unknown
Another text says it's funny. Brooke called the guy a scammer in the first part, and by the end, her heart was melting with shame. Yeah. Yeah, that's not fair. Brook's heart was not melting with shame. It was melting thinking about her homeless ex boyfriends. Let's give her some credit on that.
Jeffrey
That is where her sweet spot lies.
Brooke
Listen, you guys, it's not that I still love them. They just. It was a fun relationship, you know, they're doing well. We stayed at my house all the time.
Unknown
That was the only option. Alexis, maybe. Did you learn anything from this second date update? Anything you want to put into your own dating life?
Brooke
Was I supposed to? No, no, no.
Unknown
Never should have asked. Yeah, what I should be asking is if you have any issues in your love life that you want a little help with, we can be that person to step in for you.
Brooke
Oh, my God. This makes me feel like we can do good things. Truly. Help us out.
Unknown
Email the show. We'll call that person who's not calling you back. And go check out all of our second day podcasts wherever you get yours at. BrookeandD. Jeffrey.
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Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update – June 7, 2025
Episode Title: Second Date Update Classics: 2nd Chance Scott + Mysterious Wallet Situation
Introduction
In this episode of Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update, hosted by Brooke and Jeffrey from iHeartPodcasts, listeners are treated to two compelling stories centered around second date experiences. The episode delves into Scott’s attempt to redeem his dating mishaps and Michelle’s perplexing encounter with Calvin, offering both humor and heartfelt insights into the complexities of modern dating.
Scott’s Second Chance
Scott’s First Date Missteps
The episode opens with Scott, a returning listener, seeking advice after a challenging first date. Brooke and Jeffrey dissect Scott’s initial outing with Mandy at the beach. Scott admits to contemplating awkward actions, such as rating women who walked by and displaying his camera obsessively, but ultimately refrains from executing these ideas. Jeffrey humorously notes, “That should always be” ([07:07]), highlighting Scott’s conscious efforts to improve his dating behavior.
Seeking Redemption
Despite his good intentions, Scott experiences radio silence from Mandy post-date. Concerned, Brooke and Jeffrey decide to involve Mandy directly to uncover the reasons behind the lack of a second date. Scott’s vulnerability is palpable when he states, “I didn’t realize that I had to commit after an hour” ([16:32]). The hosts guide Scott through a conversation with Mandy, revealing her reservations about his perceived commitment issues. Ultimately, the interaction concludes humorously with Mandy clarifying her engagement status, leaving Scott in a humorous predicament.
Key Insights
Scott’s story underscores the importance of clear communication and understanding a partner’s expectations early in the dating process. Brooke reflects, “I feel like the whole time you’re telling yourself what not to do, not how great you are” ([09:45]), emphasizing the need for self-confidence in dating scenarios.
Michelle’s Mysterious Wallet Situation
The Date with Calvin
Transitioning to Michelle’s experience, the hosts explore her date with Calvin, who encountered a wallet mishap at a manicure-pedicure appointment. Michelle recounts, “I paid for the whole thing because he didn’t have his wallet” ([24:31]), demonstrating her willingness to navigate unexpected challenges. However, Calvin’s subsequent disappearance leaves Michelle puzzled and seeking answers.
Exploring the Ghosting Phenomenon
Brooke and Jeffrey engage in a candid discussion about Calvin’s lack of follow-up, debating whether it stems from genuine mistakes or deeper issues. When Michelle expresses her frustration, “I can’t wait forever, but I do” ([28:50]), the hosts ponder the balance between understanding and self-respect in dating.
Resolving the Situation
In an attempt to reconnect, Brooke and Jeffrey facilitate a dialogue with Calvin. During the conversation, Calvin reveals financial struggles and personal insecurities that hinder his ability to pursue the relationship further. Michelle stands her ground, stating, “I just want to pay for the date and let him know I am by his side” ([37:49]), showcasing her strength and independence. Ultimately, Calvin agrees to a second date, albeit under unconventional terms, highlighting the unpredictable nature of dating dynamics.
Key Insights
Michelle’s story illustrates the challenges of navigating dating when faced with unforeseen obstacles. Brooke poignantly remarks, “If you have any issues in your love life that you want a little help with, we can be that person to step in for you” ([40:10]), reinforcing the show's mission to assist listeners in overcoming dating dilemmas.
Conclusion
This episode of Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update offers a blend of humor, empathy, and practical advice through Scott and Michelle’s dating journeys. While Scott faces the delicate aftermath of his first date missteps, Michelle navigates the complexities of financial embarrassment and ghosting with resilience. Brooke and Jeffrey adeptly guide their listeners through these scenarios, emphasizing the importance of communication, self-awareness, and perseverance in the quest for meaningful connections.
Notable Quotes:
This episode not only entertains but also provides valuable insights for anyone navigating the unpredictable waters of dating, reaffirming that second chances can lead to growth and new beginnings.