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Melissa Jeltson
I'm investigative journalist Melissa Jeltson. My new podcast, what Happened in Nashville tells the story of an IVF clinic's catastrophic collapse and the patients who banded together in the chaos that followed.
Jeffrey
It doesn't matter how much I fight, doesn't matter how much I cry over all of this. It doesn't matter how much justice we get. None of it's gonna get me pregnant.
Melissa Jeltson
Listen to what Happened in Nashville on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
Jeffrey
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Jeffrey
Yeah.
Brooke
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Jeffrey
Right now on a dating app. How do you go from getting just one or two matches a month to having over 50 guys drooling, begging you to marry them on the spot without changing a picture or telling a bold faced lie?
Brooke
They want to marry.
Jeffrey
It's not impossible. Cuz one of our listeners says it happened to her and all it took was adding three. Three little numbers to her bio.
Brooke
Numbers, girl, don't give your number out.
Jeffrey
Wait, I know.
Josh
Only three.
Jeffrey
It's not Brooke's total body count. Don't worry, there's as many. Many more numbers than that.
Brooke
It's just 999, which is fine.
Jeffrey
You'll find out what it was when we do your second date update. Next second date update. We're always talking about how much trouble guys have standing out on the dating apps. Yeah, we never really discuss the ladies and their struggles when they're online.
Josh
They don't have struggles, Jack.
Brooke
Yeah, of course they do. They have to deal with you. Yeah. Do you see what I'm saying?
Josh
I can see that.
Brooke
Duh. That's way worse.
Jeffrey
One of our listeners, Jossie, says that she's been trying for a bit till she finally figured out a dating hack that's worked for her like a charm.
Brooke
Oh, where she actually found, like a quality person online.
Josh
Yeah, that's also different. Maybe somebody looking for actual love.
Jeffrey
Well, she's gonna tell us about it so that Alexis can steal all the men.
Josh
Welcome to the show already.
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
Hey, guys. What's going on?
Brooke
We're interested in what's going on with you.
Jeffrey
Yeah, we have our notepads out so we can figure out what this hack is, but I guess maybe you should start with the guy that it worked on. What's his name?
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
His name is Sean.
Brooke
Okay.
Jeffrey
Okay.
Brooke
And so what's. I mean, what is your problem with dating apps? Like, what do you struggle with?
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
I've been on dating apps for about six months, and I've heard of all these girls getting like hundreds of messages. Yeah, and unfortunately, I am Definitely not one of those women. And I don't know why. You know, like, I'm not bad looking.
Josh
Well, I can help. I can help with that. Why don't you just let me know?
Brooke
It's better if you're avoiding those messages.
Jeffrey
She wasn't fishing for anything there. I think she was just telling us.
Josh
I may be part of the problem.
Brooke
But it does feel like maybe there's something about your profile that isn't clicking right. For people.
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
Right?
Brooke
Is that what you were thinking?
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
Yeah. There has to be something because again, I don't think I'm like, crazy bad looking or anything. Like, I do all the regular things. I put like what I like in my bio and everything.
Jeffrey
See, I can already see where you're messing up.
Brooke
Boring? Is that what you're saying?
Jeffrey
Yeah. Guys want someone that seems like they're really at a low point in their life.
Melissa Jeltson
What?
Jeffrey
Really struggling.
Josh
This girl is hot and desperate.
Jeffrey
Yeah, I can fix her.
Brooke
No, no. What did you change? You didn't add more desperation to your profile, did you know?
Josh
I'm so thirsty.
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
I don't think.
Jeffrey
Okay, what's your strategy then?
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
So I actually added to my profile my credit score.
Brooke
Oh, that's funny. Yeah.
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
This is a thing right now? Yeah, it's 804.
Brooke
Dang, girl.
Jeffrey
That's your credit score?
Josh
Girl, we're buying a house.
Jeffrey
Oh, my God.
Brooke
I thought it was out of 800. What is the credit score out of?
Jeffrey
I think it's like 820.
Melissa Jeltson
No.
Brooke
820. You're right.
Jeffrey
We're not the most financially.
Josh
I know because I've been checking my credit.
Brooke
I'm guessing that Alexis doesn't put her credit score on her. I don't know where to find mine.
Jeffrey
Yeah.
Brooke
Yeah.
Jeffrey
So wait, you. You put 804 in your profile? That's just what you said?
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
Yeah, I put 804 and then I put gold digger instead of gold digger. Like G O A L.
Jeffrey
That's funny.
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
Yeah, I guess people thought I was clever because, you know, after that it worked. And I got tons of messages from all these guys who were literally ready to like, marry me.
Brooke
I feel it.
Josh
You seem like you're immediately smart and.
Brooke
Driven, and despite what you two say, men do read.
Josh
What you didn't read.
Jeffrey
So it sounds like Sean was one of the guys that reached out to you.
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
Yeah, so he reached out to me and we were just chatting like it was super fun, you know, and we did talk about my credit score and he made a cute joke about it and he was Like, I. Well, I said, you know, I hope just because I have an 804 credit score, you're not assuming I'm paying for the date, are you? And he's like, no, you're paying for the first three.
Brooke
Oh, that's funny.
Jeffrey
Okay.
Josh
I like this.
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
Yeah, right? So he seems, like, clever and cute, so I'm like, why not go to drinks with him?
Brooke
All right, what was it like when you met up with him?
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
So I showed up a little late, I'm not gonna lie. Which might have been, you know, not the best. But, like, once I got there, it was so nice and he was great and we were getting really well.
Brooke
Okay. He didn't seem put off by you being late? Like, what, like, 15, 20 minutes?
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
Yeah, it was like, 15 minutes.
Brooke
Okay.
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
He didn't seem, like, mad or anything at me.
Brooke
Okay.
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
But the only thing was that, like, we weren't as flirty as I was hoping. And, like, we did end up talking about, like, a lot of, like, budgeting and, like.
Josh
It'S like, the opposite problem.
Brooke
Or did he come to financial advice because you have your stuff together?
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
No, literally, that's what I felt like. And then I gave him a recommendation for a tax person. He was so excited. Oh, God.
Jeffrey
All the hosts in the room around me are coming off like, this is a bad thing. I think it's sexy, by the way.
Brooke
She didn't even think it was hot.
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
Well, we didn't kiss, so, you know, that also just kind of threw me off instead. You know, I just kind of gave him the tax guy's number and it was like, good night. Okay, thanks.
Josh
So this guy sounds like you thought you were, like, a financial advisor, but.
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
Like, I feel like there could have been a spark if, like, we did change it up. Yeah, I moved on.
Brooke
I mean, you can get stuck on a subject, you know, like, that's easy to.
Josh
I mean, I can't stop thinking about my credit score right now, too, now that we brought it up, but is.
Jeffrey
It possible that you think maybe he, like, had the wrong intentions when he came into the date and just wanted that, and maybe he's not the right guy for you?
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
I'm wondering, because I texted him. I was, like, had so much fun. Like, just like a follow up text, and now he's not even responding, and it's been a week and a half.
Brooke
Have you talked to your tax person? Has he responded to him or her?
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
I didn't check in on that, but I definitely should. That's a good call.
Josh
Okay.
Jeffrey
Now that you fixed him financially. We just have to fix him romantically and get you guys on a second date.
Brooke
Okay.
Jeffrey
Guys love to be fixed. That's what I.
Brooke
Women love fixing them.
Jeffrey
Yes.
Brooke
Oh, God, Alexis. And I am a keeper.
Josh
Upper lady.
Brooke
Taking notes when we talk to Alexa.
Jeffrey
It's a perfect circle. We're going to complete it when we do your second date update. Next second date update. Do you find financial talk arousing? What? What?
Brooke
Oh, my God. My mom is so excited right now.
Josh
Oh, no.
Jeffrey
My depreciating asset is in a class C stock.
Brooke
Oh.
Jeffrey
Am I able to transfer the interest it incurs overseas?
Josh
Oh, is it compound penalty?
Brooke
Is there Google Translate? He took a different economy economics class than I did, I think.
Jeffrey
Or are you more like Jose, where every time he opens up his wallet, it's like an onion and it makes him cry?
Josh
Yeah. Wow, that's a long cry.
Jeffrey
I'm still going very depressing inside of that wallet.
Josh
I will say, when I open my portfolio, I do cry.
Jeffrey
Like that checks out.
Josh
It is awful.
Jeffrey
But one of our listeners is wondering if she was used for her financial expertise because she posted her excellent credit score right there on her dating app.
Brooke
And it worked. It got her so many messages, got.
Jeffrey
Her matched up with Sean, but instead of getting a kiss kiss at the end of their date, she ended up just giving him the contact info to her tax guy.
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
Yeah.
Jeffrey
Which, I mean, great for him, not quite as sexy and good for her. Yeah, but she's not giving up. That's the good news.
Brooke
No, that is good. And I was just wondering, did you end up paying for the date, or did he? Because he made the joke. He made the joke that you were gonna pay because your credit score was so high.
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
We split it.
Brooke
Oh.
Josh
That'S not.
Brooke
Also not a sexy move.
Josh
I mean, financially responsible, but not hot.
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
You know, it was. It was okay with me. I. I handle my business, so I don't care.
Brooke
Yeah, it's just like, after the joke and then to still split it, you know?
Josh
You know, it would have been a joke and then have him pay.
Brooke
Right.
Jeffrey
You should have bankrolled him for a.
Josh
Year, and it would have been okay. And if you paid in Bitcoin.
Jeffrey
But let's get right into this call. Okay, I'm gonna dial Sean right now. We'll see what he has to say. Here we go.
Caller (Sean/Eric)
Hello?
Brooke
Oh, Shawn, are you in the bathroom?
Jeffrey
Is this Sean?
Caller (Sean/Eric)
Yes, it is.
Josh
He's in a cage.
Caller (Sean/Eric)
Who am I speaking with?
Josh
Are you mining right now?
Jeffrey
Your phone is a little bit echoey, Sean, but we're a radio show called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning.
Caller (Sean/Eric)
Does it sound better?
Jeffrey
Yeah, sounds a little bit better.
Caller (Sean/Eric)
Okay, so I was on my lunch break.
Brooke
Oh.
Jeffrey
Oh, well, I hate to interrupt you on your lunch break, Sean, but we do have some important business to discuss with you regarding a woman that you went out with recently named Jossie.
Caller (Sean/Eric)
A woman?
Jeffrey
You know, women, you know, they're like men, but with different parts.
Caller (Sean/Eric)
Yeah, yeah, I'm familiar with women.
Brooke
Okay, do you remember.
Jeffrey
Sounded confused when I said woman. So I'm just clarifying.
Brooke
Do you remember your date with Jossie? You guys went to drink?
Caller (Sean/Eric)
Yes, Yes, I do.
Brooke
Okay, cool.
Jeffrey
Well, newsflash, she is a woman. And other news flash, she really liked you and wants to see you again.
Caller (Sean/Eric)
Oh, well, that's really sweet of her.
Brooke
Okay, so that's a positive to you? Did you not think that already?
Caller (Sean/Eric)
I mean, it was a good vibe, you know, it just was a little.
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
Not a.
Caller (Sean/Eric)
It wasn't a typical date. Our topic of discussion wasn't, you know, how you get to know someone. It wasn't like that.
Josh
Yeah, okay, Well, I think she wanted it to be a date, though.
Jeffrey
I'll be honest. We heard a little bit about your date from Jossy, and she mentioned that the talk went into, like, finances.
Brooke
She said it was a little stiff and. Yeah, a little bit too much financial.
Caller (Sean/Eric)
Yeah, she was really money oriented.
Brooke
Oh, okay.
Jeffrey
I thought you were the one asking her some of the questions about how she got her credit score. So good.
Caller (Sean/Eric)
That was on her dating profile. So, you know, you want to kick it off with something that's in their bio.
Brooke
Right? Right. Yeah, I know it sounds like she got stuck in talking about it, and she felt like you guys never got to be flirty with each other.
Caller (Sean/Eric)
Well, okay, so she was 15 minutes late to the date because she was trying to find, like, the cheapest gas. Like, there was some gas that was 7 cents less than all the other gas stations, and so she had to have that gas.
Josh
I think I know someone like that, go out of their way to save a couple bucks.
Brooke
She said you weren't bothered by her being late.
Caller (Sean/Eric)
I wasn't bothered about her being late. It was the reason why she was late. And then she stopped at the Dollar store because they had the best paper towel at the best price.
Josh
Oh.
Jeffrey
Oh, she had to get that done before she met up with you. I mean, in her defense, those paper towels can be pretty expensive.
Josh
Yeah, they add one more layer, especially.
Jeffrey
Doing the friendly kind.
Brooke
You guys, Dollar tree. Why were you asking her about this.
Caller (Sean/Eric)
She was the one that brought it up. Like, she said, I was doing this and I was doing that.
Josh
Okay?
Brooke
Buying cheap gas and buying dollar store paper towels.
Jeffrey
All right, so she's thrifty. And you don't. You don't like that, man, she could.
Caller (Sean/Eric)
Be thrifty all she wants.
Jeffrey
Okay, okay.
Caller (Sean/Eric)
But if we were in a relationship, I will not be chastised about paying an extra 75 cents for some ranch.
Brooke
Wait, What?
Jeffrey
Wait, what?
Brooke
Wait, is that a random example? Yeah, it's like a hypothetical. You're saying.
Caller (Sean/Eric)
No, no, that happened. That's not a hypothetical.
Brooke
What do you mean she chastised you?
Jeffrey
What happened?
Josh
Yeah, what does chastise even mean?
Caller (Sean/Eric)
I ordered some French fries and I wanted a side of Ranch.
Brooke
Oh, yeah, you're speaking my language.
Caller (Sean/Eric)
And the waitress said, it'll be 75 cents.
Jeffrey
Okay, okay.
Caller (Sean/Eric)
And she was like, 75?
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
Damn.
Caller (Sean/Eric)
Cancel the ranch. He doesn't need it, okay?
Brooke
She canceled your ranch.
Josh
Don't you ever cancel my ranch.
Jeffrey
That might cross a line.
Brooke
Wait, did you have to eat dry fries?
Caller (Sean/Eric)
There was ketchup on the table.
Josh
Are you still dipping him in his water?
Jeffrey
I feel like Jossie has some splaining to do. And she can do that right now.
Josh
She owes you Ranch.
Brooke
We can come back from this.
Josh
I don't think so.
Jeffrey
I need to let you know, Sean, Joss, he's been on the other line listening, wanting to talk to you.
Caller (Sean/Eric)
You what? She's listening?
Jeffrey
Yeah, that's how the segment works there.
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
Yes, I'm there. Wow. It was. It was 75 cents. Like, I could make a whole bottle for 75 cents. I thought, you know, I was doing a favor. I wanted to make sure he was taken care of.
Josh
Who needs you to turn a bottle.
Brooke
Of Ranch, or however it's by the packets.
Jeffrey
I mean, you're on the date, and they say this is how much something costs you. You pay that.
Caller (Sean/Eric)
That's.
Brooke
Yeah.
Josh
That's not even restaurants work exactly. One thing, if it was like, oh, this steak is 50.
Brooke
But listen, you guys, she thought she was helping, okay? Right?
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I. I don't know why. So I. I guess he was upset. He was upset. I was 15 minutes late.
Caller (Sean/Eric)
It's not because you were late, it was why you were late.
Josh
Yeah.
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
Waited any longer, I would have been out of the paper towels at the Dollar store.
Brooke
I bet they go fast.
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
Yeah, yeah. They run out by six every single week. My last role, I needed to stop there. There's nothing I could have done, okay?
Jeffrey
It's a matter of life and death.
Brooke
You can look past that.
Caller (Sean/Eric)
No, she should have did. She should have taken the napkins from the restaurant. I'm surprised she didn't do that.
Jeffrey
Who's the financial expert now, Josh?
Josh
Are you guys gonna just be stealing napkins?
Jeffrey
You are like a dynamic duo.
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
Do you do that? That's honestly not a bad idea. That was good thinking.
Jeffrey
Oh, now you piqued her interest.
Caller (Sean/Eric)
Sean, is she joking? I don't think she's joking, actually. I don't think she joking.
Josh
You guys probably keep the ketchup packets too.
Brooke
Usually at the grocery stores, you can get the ranch dip behind the counter as well for free. Where the chicken strips are.
Josh
I feel like. Okay, that's a problem.
Jeffrey
We're getting to the same problem that they did where we're getting too deep into the Financial Times. Okay, let's pull it back and talk to Sean for a second. Because, Sean, what you don't know is that before we called you, she was telling us how strong of a connection she felt the two of you had.
Brooke
Yeah. And how she wanted to redo because she didn't feel like it went great the first time.
Jeffrey
Yeah, I'm just hoping that Jossie still feels the same way as she did before and is still into him. Jossie, are you still up for going out with him one more time on our dime? That's a smart financial decision right there. It's free.
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
I mean, that does sweeten the deal, but honestly, like, I want someone that looks at my strategizing with my money and. And thinks that that's a great thing instead of thinking I'm cheap.
Jeffrey
That's understandable.
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
I bet he doesn' hire his nieces and nephews to landscape the house so he can write it off like I do. It saves me $70 a year.
Josh
Oh, landscaping.
Caller (Sean/Eric)
Are you kidding me?
Jeffrey
Another financial gem from Josie.
Caller (Sean/Eric)
Like, man, she is out of control.
Brooke
Dude. 804. That's what her credit score is. 804.
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
Yeah. I have to. You have to plan these things.
Jeffrey
Okay.
Brooke
Is it worth it?
Josh
I don't think so.
Brooke
Maybe not for luck.
Jeffrey
Save a couple bucks. From what I'm hearing, it sounds like you guys aren't gonna match up and meet up one more time.
Brooke
No.
Jeffrey
So negative.
Brooke
Yeah, whatever. Jossie, I'm telling you, you're gonna see him at that dollar store trying to get those paper towels from you next week.
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
Yeah, he better get there early because I'm blocking him out if he's there.
Jeffrey
Actually, let's all go to the dollar store.
Josh
Hey Alexa, I'll go to the regular store like regular people.
Brooke
Why pay more?
Josh
Okay, because it's convenient.
Brooke
You pay more convenience.
Jeffrey
Okay, we're going to the ranch factory instead.
Josh
We don't agree on the ran cups.
Jeffrey
Kids.
Brooke
Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
Jeffrey
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Melissa Jeltson
I'm investigative journalist Melissa Jeltson. My new podcast, what Happened in Nashville tells the story of an IVF clinic's catastrophic collapse and the patients who banded together in the chaos that followed.
Jeffrey
We have some breaking news to tell you about. Tennessee's attorney General is suing a Nashville doctor.
Melissa Jeltson
In April 2024, a fertility clinic in Nashville shut down overnight. And trapped behind locked doors were more than 1,000 frozen embryos.
Brooke
I was terrified.
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
Out of all of our journey, that was the worst moment ever.
Brooke
At that point, it didn't occur to me what fight was going to come to follow.
Melissa Jeltson
But this story isn't just about a few families futures. It's about whether the promise of modern fertility care can be trusted at all.
Jeffrey
It doesn't matter how much I fight, doesn't matter how much I cry over all of this. It doesn't matter how much justice we get. None of it's going to get me pregnant.
Melissa Jeltson
Listen to what happened in Nashville on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
Jeffrey
Gas prices, paper towel shortages and child labor.
Caller (Sean/Eric)
Wow.
Brooke
I know.
Josh
We covered it all.
Jeffrey
Just public radio or no, it's the status of the current dating lady landscape. What people are talking about.
Brooke
I mean, times are tough, man. People are gearing up, you know, getting ready. Really tough recession for your life. Gear up to yourself.
Jeffrey
Didn't work out for those two. But I'm just gonna say I do think they missed out on what A.
Brooke
Good deal somewhere else, those two.
Jeffrey
They could have teamed up to become one of those ultra successful billionaire power couples who are good at both money and love. Like Bill Gates and. And.
Brooke
Nope, that's a bad example.
Jeffrey
And like Elon Musk and.
Josh
No, that robot is actually.
Brooke
I think he's still with Grimes. No, no.
Jeffrey
You know what?
Josh
Kissing robots right now.
Jeffrey
Let's forget it. Let's just do Love is Blind season three, Brazil edition.
Josh
Okay?
Jeffrey
Let's stick with what works.
Brooke
Warren Buffett. He's still with Jay Z and Beyonce. I mean, I think he's still alive.
Jeffrey
That one was a little rocky, too.
Brooke
Yeah.
Josh
Okay, where are the power couples at?
Jeffrey
Never mind. If you just want to be. Not a power couple, just a normal, regular couple who's truly in love. Email the show. We'll call that person who isn't calling you back. And check out all of our podcasts wherever you get yours at. Brooke and Jeffrey.
Brooke
Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
Jeffrey
We talk about this on the show a lot. That before you go out with someone, always Google them first.
Josh
Oh, yeah.
Jeffrey
And if for some reason you don't, then definitely Google them after. Yeah.
Josh
Well, that's a good reference.
Jeffrey
One guy did not do that before or after, and he's probably feeling really stupid right now. Cause one of our listeners had a little secret she didn't tell the guy on their date, but she does reveal it to us.
Brooke
Ooh, I love a good secret.
Josh
Andy, you.
Jeffrey
You're gonna hear her juicy confession coming up in a second date update right after this second date update. It's more and more popular nowadays to go to restaurants and food spots that do shared tables.
Brooke
Oh, yeah? Yeah. Like the. The community tables. You know, like the big, long ones. You kind of sit at the end.
Josh
Yeah.
Jeffrey
Brook and Jeffrey in the morning. The upside to that is you might meet somebody interesting sitting at your table. The downside is you're sharing napkins.
Brooke
What?
Jeffrey
Swipe and pass.
Brooke
No, it's not.
Jeffrey
At least that's my experience. And I'm just hoping I'm not fourth in line for the community napkins.
Josh
You clean your mouth and then pass it over.
Brooke
He's stealing other people's napkins is what.
Jeffrey
I think it's all about Conservation. Okay? That's the way forward. But the only reason that I even bring it up is because one of our listeners says she met a guy while sitting at a shared table. Her name is Donna.
Brooke
That's cute.
Jeffrey
Donna, did you have to share napkins at the table like I do?
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
No, I didn't share any napkins.
Jeffrey
Okay. Just sharing a straw. Sip and pass.
Brooke
Just probably conversation. Jeff. That's probably all she shared right Donna.
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
Yep, that's pretty much it.
Josh
Okay, this is a good start.
Jeffrey
Well, yeah, I definitely need to know where this place is that had your community tables because I'm going to the wrong spots. Where did you.
Josh
You banned from all the other ones.
Brooke
Yours are so unsanitary.
Melissa Jeltson
Jeff.
Jeffrey
Yeah, where did you go?
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
It was a food festival.
Brooke
Okay, so you're at like a picnic table, sitting down. Yeah, yeah, yeah, A fold out table.
Josh
Sharing too.
Jeffrey
And who was this guy that you met that Eric?
Brooke
Eric.
Jeffrey
Okay.
Brooke
How'd you.
Josh
What was Eric eating? Is that what draw you to him?
Brooke
Is that how you struck up conversation?
Josh
Oh God, look at that guy's chicken.
Brooke
I only date guys who eat euros.
Jeffrey
Can I get that napkin when you're done, by the way?
Josh
Where?
Jeffrey
No, how did you meet him?
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
Oh, he was actually at the beer garden.
Josh
Oh, oh, even better.
Brooke
Okay.
Jeffrey
Yeah, it's a little bit easier to meet somebody there. How did you do it?
Brooke
No, they're of age.
Josh
Yeah, yeah, that's a good point.
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
We were trying to like figure out where to sit down and so he had a little picnic table and it was just kind and her friend. So it was just kind of this nice, like perfect. Two guys, two gals hanging out at a picnic table kind of thing.
Brooke
Perfect.
Jeffrey
Okay.
Brooke
So how long did you guys hang out together?
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
Ooh, it was like an hour and a half maybe. Because we were just kind of having a good time. Yeah, it was supernatural. Like he was really funny, really genuine, nice guy. And I just found myself laughing so much cause he was so goofy.
Brooke
Aw, that's awesome. Yeah, I love that.
Jeffrey
I wouldn't call him goofy to his face, but I could see how it's a positive thing to say.
Brooke
Was your girlfriend like hyping you up? I mean, could she tell that you were into him?
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
Yeah, I mean, she was like making eyes at me like, this guy really likes you. And she could totally tell. And he and I actually did agree to hang out later, like after the event.
Jeffrey
Cute. Perfect. So what did you and Eric do when you met up after the event?
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
Well, we had already drank a lot because we were chilling in the beer garden for a while.
Jeffrey
Yeah.
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
So we didn't want to drink anymore. We just walked around the city and talked. We stopped and got some dessert. Yeah, I just really liked him.
Josh
Did you kiss him or did he kiss you or anything like romantic happened?
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
No, no kissy stuff. No hand holding it or anything.
Josh
But you felt the vibe?
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
Yeah.
Jeffrey
So looking back now at the whole thing, what do you think the reason is that he Might not be calling you back, is there? Do you have any idea?
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
Okay.
Melissa Jeltson
Oh, no.
Brooke
Why did you pause like that?
Jeffrey
Yeah, something's going on.
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
I don't know. I. I don't. I don't know if I should say if I can or you're embarrassed about.
Brooke
I don't know. Why would you not be able to say it? Is it about you?
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
Yeah.
Jeffrey
Okay, well, you know how this segment works. Like, you should probably be honest with us now, because if we call him and he says it and we're not prepared for that, you know, please say you're not married.
Brooke
Please say you're not married.
Jeffrey
It could be embarrassing for you. So if it's going to come out anyway, you might as well tell us now.
Josh
Just close your ears while you tell us so you don't hear it.
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
It might one of those things, like, maybe he doesn't know this about me or something. And then it's like I'm revealing this thing and I'm like, oh, God, what if that wasn't the thing?
Josh
I'm even more intrigued.
Brooke
Okay, wait, you don't know if he knows or not? Would he be able to find it out of the Internet?
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
Yeah.
Brooke
Okay, then he knows. Well, yeah, let's just get that over with. I mean.
Jeffrey
Well, what is it? Can we know what it is? And we won't bring it up to him unless he says, oh, okay, I.
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
Okay, I didn't say any of this to him, but I don't know if he found out. Like. Okay, I don't even know if I could say this right now.
Brooke
Deep breath, deep breath. It's probably. Honestly, like, all this stuff is usually not as big of a deal as people think it is in their head.
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
Right. I just don't want my mom to be listening or something.
Brooke
Oh, God, we're big with moms.
Jeffrey
So.
Brooke
Yeah. Kidding.
Jeffrey
You a triple murder suspect or what's going on?
Josh
Yeah, we've heard that before.
Jeffrey
Yeah.
Brooke
Hey, we're an innocent till proven guilty type of show.
Jeffrey
Yeah, just tell us.
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
I'm on Onlyfans.
Brooke
You're on Onlyfans.
Josh
Oh, okay.
Brooke
You know what? I bet your mom doesn't even know what that is, so I bet you're safe.
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
I hope so.
Brooke
Okay, like how, like, if he searched your name, would it come up, you know? Cause he knows your name. He could Google you. More importantly, is, like, the content, like, is it PG 13 or is it something.
Jeffrey
Brooke just asked her to send you a link if you really got interested.
Brooke
Is it pretty aggressive?
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
It's not extremely aggressive. But it's definitely like leaning into rated.
Josh
R. Okay, well, some guys love that and some guys don't. It's a personality thing.
Brooke
I mean, you're definitely gonna have to tell him whether he knows now or not.
Jeffrey
And we really appreciate you being vulnerable and coming clean about that to us. We will definitely get your information during the break for Jose's sake.
Brooke
But wait, I thought I was getting their information.
Josh
I got a free trial. I was nicer.
Jeffrey
We're a very thorough, thorough in our research whenever we do this thing. But just, I'm. Now I'm curious. How successful are you with your only fans? Are you somebody who might be more well known or.
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
Well, yeah, yeah, I'm somewhat popular. Like, I, I, I have a pretty big following.
Jeffrey
Okay. Wow. Well, now I guess that has me curious. If you've got all these followers and all the success, then why Eric?
Brooke
What? She's not interested. She likes Eric.
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
Yeah, it is a great question. I'm not on any dating apps and this happened organically, which it was very exciting to meet him just like face to face as strangers. It felt like a cute little meet cute, you know?
Brooke
Yeah. How will you handle it if it is an issue for him?
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
I don't know. I mean, some guys are scared. Some guys are, like, way too into it. So it's like, is that the only reason why you like me?
Jeffrey
I think I know which category we fell into. Sorry, but we will not bring this up again unless Eric says at first. Because we're going to come back and call him and ask him. Why wouldn't he call you back after such a great, unique, genuine hangout.
Josh
I keep forgetting he may not even know about the only fans.
Brooke
It is so nice to have a listener. Just be honest with us from the beginning how much easier this makes our job.
Josh
It did take a lot to get it out.
Brooke
It doesn't matter.
Jeffrey
Unless the rating is even worse than ours. So we're going to find out when we call Eric and get you your second aid update right after.
Caller (Sean/Eric)
Hold on.
Jeffrey
Second date update. Brooks said it earlier. And I think we all agree it is refreshing to have a listener actually be honest and vulnerable with us up front. For real.
Brooke
It makes me feel so much less stressed going into this phone call. Even though that's like a big. I mean, it's kind of a big thing. Yeah.
Josh
But it feels like we're on the same page.
Jeffrey
Yes. It's good to know that information before we dial this guy. And, and our listener Donna, who's Jose's already searched that name 14 times during the break.
Josh
She told us about so many Donnas on of.
Jeffrey
By the way, I know it's hard to nail down which one she is, but she told us about her meeting with a guy named Eric. It happened organically when they were both at a food festival, and they ended up bonding, walking around the city together, sharing desserts. Now he's not calling her back.
Brooke
It was such a sweet interaction. It really felt genuine.
Jeffrey
And the whole reason I bring up the honesty nasty part is because she admitted to us that Eric may have found out that she is a successful model on only fans. Yeah, here's the thing is we all understand that that information can tend to freak some people out. And maybe that could be the reason that Eric is avoiding her.
Brooke
And if he brings it up, do you want us to admit then that we already know Donna, or is that something. Then you just want to talk to.
Josh
Him, or do we lie and say, that's not her?
Brooke
Yeah.
Melissa Jeltson
Yeah.
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
You know, actually, I feel like I. I would like it if I were to be the one to say it to him.
Jeffrey
Okay. Okay.
Brooke
If he knows, that makes sense. He found something online.
Jeffrey
Fair.
Josh
So if he already knows, I mean.
Brooke
He'S gonna find out eventually. If you ever talk about work like.
Jeffrey
It'S your job, I mean, you can always keep a secret life for 20, 30 years before you have to come clean about it.
Josh
I work from home.
Jeffrey
Yeah, so he doesn't have to know all the details.
Brooke
But that's good advice, Jeff.
Jeffrey
It's really. It's really up to you, Donna. This is your decision. We're just going to call Eric. We'll see if he answers the phone. And then from that point on, we're just going to roll with it. Okay?
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
Okay. Beautiful.
Josh
All right, here we go.
Jeffrey
I'm going to dial his number right now. Let's do this.
Caller (Sean/Eric)
Hello?
Jeffrey
Hey. We're looking to talk with Eric.
Caller (Sean/Eric)
Yeah, this is Eric. Who says.
Brooke
All right.
Jeffrey
Hey, this is a show called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning.
Brooke
Whole show's here.
Jeffrey
I'm Jeffrey.
Caller (Sean/Eric)
Hi, Jeffrey.
Jeffrey
You guys want to go around the room and introduce yourselves? Let's sound off. Broom.
Brooke
Let's. Okay. Eric. Yeah, that's Brooke.
Jeffrey
Yeah, Brooke. She's the fun one.
Caller (Sean/Eric)
So awkward.
Brooke
Why are you so awkward?
Josh
Anyway, and there's also Alexa.
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
I would to hear him talk.
Jeffrey
We're trying to help out one of our listeners that you actually went on a date with recently. Her name's Donna.
Brooke
Sounded like a cute date.
Caller (Sean/Eric)
I guess if I had to sum it up, I would say that I just had a different impression of her on our date. From when we first met at this beer garden. And I don't know how much he told you.
Jeffrey
Well, it's not much more than that. According to her, it was the beer garden. You went out afterwards, walking around the city.
Brooke
I thought it was really sweet that you guys didn't drink again either. Like you shared dessert. It sounds like you had great conversation.
Josh
I don't know how that even happens. How do you stop drinking? That was a personal comment.
Jeffrey
My bad. But you were saying that you got a different impression from her. From when you met and during the date. Like, can you explain what you meant?
Caller (Sean/Eric)
Yeah, she's. I want to make it clear. She's a super sweet girl. She's really nice. She's really cute.
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
Oh, that's crazy.
Caller (Sean/Eric)
And maybe it was just because it was loud at the beer garden where we were there. But she seemed a little more outgoing and a little more, I don't know, wild, if that's a fair word. And when we were on our date, she just seemed really shy and a little, I don't know, conservative or.
Brooke
Can you elaborate on that? Conservative? Like what made her come off that way to you?
Caller (Sean/Eric)
She just kind of gave off goody goody vibes.
Josh
Oh, that is so unattractive.
Caller (Sean/Eric)
Isn't it really what I'm into?
Josh
I feel you on that.
Brooke
And you're really good at reading people, right?
Caller (Sean/Eric)
Yeah, I am pretty good at reading people. And to be honest, she just seemed a lot more innocent than I am.
Jeffrey
Okay, you think she's too innocent.
Brooke
And you are like a wild woman.
Caller (Sean/Eric)
Yeah, I don't mean like, like wild. I'm just looking for someone who's a little more adventurous.
Brooke
Okay, Aren't you in for an adventure right now?
Jeffrey
Buckle up. There is a very adventurous woman on the other line. Listening in on this phone call. And I'm not sure if you could guess that girl would be Donna.
Caller (Sean/Eric)
No way.
Jeffrey
Oh, yeah.
Brooke
Donna.
Caller (Sean/Eric)
Really?
Jeffrey
Really. Donna, you there?
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
Hi, Eric.
Brooke
Oh my God. Are you dying on the inside? Donna?
Melissa Jeltson
Yeah.
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
Yeah.
Caller (Sean/Eric)
Hey, Donna. I didn't know you were on the other end of the line. And I don't want to seem like a jerk here. Like you. You are super sweet. You're such a kind girl. And I had a really great time.
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
No, I get it. I get it. And I hear you. I literally heard everything you said. I totally get it. And maybe I do come across that way in one on one scenarios. But I'm adventurous. I do have quite an adventure.
Caller (Sean/Eric)
Wild side, I mean, that's cool for you to say that. And again, I think you're really cool, but, like, you can say that. But I don't know how I'm supposed to believe that based on the signals that I was picking up from you, you know?
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
Okay, well, you could just trust me that I'm not as shy as I seem.
Jeffrey
Oh.
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
I don't really meet people in person, so, yeah, it's exciting, a little weird, and I obviously came off very shy, but I don't know what to say. I do have. I'm experienced. I'm an experienced woman.
Brooke
That is such a weird. You do not have to say that.
Caller (Sean/Eric)
I know.
Jeffrey
I feel like she's not used to having to say that.
Brooke
I know, but she's obviously not shy. She called a radio station and is here with us. Even outside of the other stuff.
Caller (Sean/Eric)
I mean, it's pretty wild that she called a radio station. But again, you sound innocent to me, and you're just kind of trying to pretend to be someone you're not to please me, and that doesn't. You don't need to do that because.
Brooke
You sound so wild on the phone.
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
Okay, well, I guess if you feel that way and you don't want to believe me or get to know me more, then I guess. Nice meeting you.
Brooke
Oh, my God. I think that's a good choice. Donna.
Jeffrey
Oh, Donna.
Josh
They can part ways.
Brooke
Look, Donna should tell him. I like what she's saying. I do, too.
Jeffrey
I think she should tell him, like, before. Before he.
Brooke
I mean, he is so certain who she is and doesn't have an open mind to see anything else. Like, Donna, I'm guessing, doesn't feel like he deserves that knowledge.
Jeffrey
Well, fine, but I. At least before we go, I have to ask Eric, would you like to go out with shy, innocent Donna one more time? And we would pay for the date?
Caller (Sean/Eric)
You know, again, it doesn't seem like a match. I appreciate it.
Jeffrey
Wow.
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
I mean, Eric, I think you made a mistake. And maybe I'll see you online sometime.
Jeffrey
You can afford it, though.
Brooke
Gonna have to pay to see her.
Jeffrey
Yeah.
Caller (Sean/Eric)
What does that mean?
Jeffrey
I wouldn't worry about it, Eric. You know what?
Caller (Sean/Eric)
Can somebody just tell me what's going on?
Jeffrey
No. I'm sorry.
Caller (Sean/Eric)
Bye.
Jeffrey
All right, he's gone. Sorry, Donna. We had to hang up on that guy.
Brooke
We did.
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
I'm glad. I'm glad you did.
Brooke
Have you ever had a guy assume that about you before?
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
I can maybe see why he maybe thought that, but, like, it was so crazy that he did. Just didn't want to give me another chance.
Brooke
I like how hardcore he thought he was.
Jeffrey
Yeah.
Brooke
You know, he's just crazy. I want to be there the day he finds out what we do.
Jeffrey
I know it's probably the day that he listens to this podcast and is like, oh my God, the mistakes that I've made.
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
He was so sure he knew how to read people. That was. That's what got me.
Brooke
Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
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Why I'm investigative journalist Melissa Jeltson. My new podcast, what Happened in Nashville tells the story of an IVF clinic's catastrophic collapse and the patients who banded together in the chaos that followed.
Jeffrey
We have some breaking news to tell you about. Tennessee's attorney general is suing a Nashville doctor.
Melissa Jeltson
In April 2024, a fertility clinic in Nashville shut down overnight and trapped behind locked doors were more than a thousand frozen embryos.
Brooke
I was terrified.
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
Out of all of our journey, that was the worst moment ever.
Brooke
At that point, it didn't occur to me what fight was going to come to follow.
Melissa Jeltson
But this story isn't just about a few families futures. It's about whether the promise of modern fertility care can be trusted at all. It doesn't matter how much I fight.
Jeffrey
Doesn'T matter how much I cry over all of this. It doesn't matter how much justice we get. None of it's going to get me pregnant.
Melissa Jeltson
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Jeffrey
We're getting a lot of texts in 78592 on this one. One says I hope Eric's listening right now and realizes he missed out on the chance of a lifetime.
Brooke
Yeah, it's really, it's really a learning moment. Not judge people so quickly, really, you know.
Jeffrey
Yeah, the don't judge a book by its cover sort of thing.
Brooke
I don't think it was the COVID that was the problem. It was just like her attitude.
Listener (Donna/Jossie)
Yeah.
Jeffrey
Another text says I've been trying to date an only fans girl for years. That guy's an idiot. Oh man. There's a lot of other people on the text board though going crazy cuz we didn't tell him and didn't say it. She never revealed what she does to him.
Brooke
Proud of her for not. I know. I agree.
Jeffrey
Yeah.
Josh
I thought this would be like a Alexis going out with Cristiano Ronaldo and just not realizing he plays soccer and it's like you're not my type.
Jeffrey
Oh yeah.
Josh
What are you doing?
Jeffrey
Did email the show after we recorded that though and said I thought I'd just send him a screenshot as a parting gift.
Brooke
So she did not.
Jeffrey
I think he knows now.
Brooke
Did she just trying to get more subscribers.
Jeffrey
Out of this? She probably did. We're hoping to hear to get a few more subscribers. If you like the second dates you can always 100%.
Josh
I still have my shirt off by the way.
Jeffrey
On YouTube you can find us or anywhere where you get your podcast at Brooke and Jeffrey and make sure if you need help with your dating life, email the show. We'll call that person who's not calling you back.
Episode Date: January 3, 2026
Hosts: Brooke, Jeffrey, Josh, (frequent sidekick Alexis)
Format: Classic “Second Date Update” double feature – listeners who’ve been ghosted after a first date enlist the crew to call the person who’s disappeared to discover the real reason, with plenty of comedic banter from the hosts along the way.
Episode Segments:
This episode of Brooke and Jeffrey’s “Second Date Update” features two classic tales of dating disaster. In each, a woman is left hanging after a promising first meeting, and the show’s crew steps in with their signature mix of sharp commentary, awkwardness, and empathetic attempts to get to the bottom of the mystery—often revealing that modern dating pitfalls are as much about mixed signals and self-perception as they are about apps and algorithms.
Rich with memorable moments, zippy one-liners, and a real look at what happens when values and expectations clash, this episode serves not only as entertainment but as a modern parable of the digital love landscape.
Main Theme:
Jossie, struggling to get attention on dating apps, adds her stellar credit score to her profile and is suddenly inundated with matches—including Sean. After their first date, Sean ghosts her, and Jossie wants to know why.
Online Dating Hack
“I put 804 and then I put ‘goal digger’ instead of gold digger.” – Jossie ([06:19])
First Date Vibes
“I gave him a recommendation for a tax person. He was so excited.” – Jossie ([08:06]) “All the hosts in the room are coming off like this is a bad thing. I think it’s sexy, by the way.” – Jeffrey ([08:15])
Post-Date Confusion
[11:42]–[19:00]
Sean’s Perspective
“She was trying to find, like, the cheapest gas ... then she stopped at the Dollar store because they had the best paper towel at the best price.” – Sean ([13:41])
The Ranch Dressing Incident
“She canceled your ranch.” – Josh ([15:18]) “Don’t you ever cancel my ranch.” – Josh ([15:20])
Jossie’s Response:
“I want someone that looks at my strategizing with my money and thinks that’s a great thing instead of thinking I’m cheap.” – Jossie ([17:53])
Hosts’ Takeaway:
Main Theme:
Donna meets Eric the old-fashioned way—at a shared festival picnic table—and is smitten after a fun, alcohol-free stroll through the city together. But after their evening, Eric ghosts her. Donna’s worried her secret—that she’s a (successful) OnlyFans creator—might be (or is destined to be) the issue.
An Offline Meet-Cute
“I’m on OnlyFans.” – Donna ([27:53])
Brooke's Reaction
[32:10]–[38:44]
Eric’s Impression
“She seemed a little more outgoing ... and when we were on our date, she just seemed really shy ... she just kind of gave off goody goody vibes.” – Eric ([34:19]–[34:22])
The Reveal & Wrap Up
“Maybe I do come across that way in one-on-one scenarios. But I'm adventurous. I do have quite an adventure.” – Donna ([35:34])
This episode highlights just how challenging—and entertaining—it can be to date in the digital age, with storylines that blend modern dilemmas (apps, social media reputations) and timeless miscommunications (money, personality mismatches). Both segments show smart, self-aware women who ultimately reject incompatible partners and stand by their quirks and personalities. The comic relief from the hosts rounds it out, making for an hour of lighthearted but insightful radio.
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