Second Date Update Classics: B Dub Flub + Red Light Green Light

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Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update Classics – B Dub Flub + Red Light Green Light
iHeartPodcasts | Released July 4, 2026

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Episode Overview

This "Second Date Update Classics" episode features two signature segments from Brooke and Jeffrey: one centered on a first date mishap at Buffalo Wild Wings ("B Dub Flub") and another with a unique conversational 'traffic law' twist ("Red Light Green Light"). The premise is classic: a caller was ghosted after a first date and the hosts call the other person to uncover the real reason. As always, entertaining banter and relatable dating drama abound.

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Segment 1: "B Dub Flub"

Starts at 02:44

Summary

Monica, a confident and outspoken woman, calls in after being ghosted by Isaac following what she thought was a successful—if slightly dramatic—first date. Her story kicks off with Isaac planning a surprise dinner, which turns out to be at Buffalo Wild Wings ("B dubs"), much to Monica's dismay. She refuses to get out of the car in her date-night dress for "messy wings and plastic utensils," prompting Isaac to redirect their plans to a cocktail lounge. The duo has a lively debate about expectations, ambition, and traditional roles, particularly after Isaac shares her unique job status: "stay at home daughter."

Key Discussion Points

• First Date Expectations & Gender Roles

  • Monica sets boundaries immediately when presented with a chain restaurant date, saying:
    • “Please close my door, because I don’t do Buffalo Wild Wings as a date.” (07:10, Monica)
  • Brooke and co-hosts debate the appropriateness of Monica’s directness on a first date.

• Conflict Over Career & Ambition

  • Isaac admits he chose BWW as a low-pressure setting and—plot twist—he actually owns the franchise.
    • “The reason why I chose the Buffalo Wild Wings, because these new dating apps, it’s better to start out something very casual. Another date, we graduate to something a little better...and also didn’t tell her this: I own that Buffalo Wild Wings.” (14:18, Isaac)
  • The conversation pivots sharply when Monica reveals she is a "stay at home daughter" at 31, fully supported by her parents and with no job or immediate aspirations beyond being cared for.
    • “She says she's a stay at home daughter.” (15:23, Isaac)
    • “No, they're perfectly healthy. Just take care of me. I’m their baby girl and I always will be.” (16:52, Monica)
    • “My dream and my ambition is sitting at home planning my date, going and doing what I have to do and finding a man that’s gonna take care of me so my parents could stop.” (17:25, Monica)

• Debate & Fallout

  • Isaac is turned off by Monica’s lack of ambition:
    • “Not a drop of ambition. Not a drop. All right, we gotta cut this right here, okay? I don’t know what’s going on, all right?” (15:54, Isaac)
    • Ultimately, Isaac declines another date, calling her out for not working and for her attitude.
    • “You could have been a man and called me and told me that...No one’s dodging or running. What I’m doing is ghosting. Bye.” (19:29, Isaac)

• Hosts’ Commentary

  • The hosts express a mix of amusement, judgment, and disbelief, especially at Monica’s unapologetic attitude.
    • “That is not a job. Applying right now. Texting my mom.” (22:27, Akilah Hughes)
    • “Brooke believes you should start working at age 6 in one of her overseas factories.” (22:54, Jeffrey, jokingly)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “A boss doesn’t work, yo.” — Monica (18:47)
• “You’re gonna take me out, and that’s just the way it’s gonna be.” — Monica (19:38)
• “Have a great life, Monica. I hope you find a guy slash simp that will...take care.” — Isaac (19:29)
• “You don’t want to make her mad.” — Jeffrey (18:53)

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Segment 2: "Red Light Green Light"

Starts at 24:25

Summary

Tina calls in, puzzled about short texts and ghosting after her zoo date with Josh. She honestly told Josh mid-date that he talks too much, introducing her "Stoplight Rule": 20 seconds of talking is green, 40 is red, and conversation should go back and forth like traffic signals. Josh felt this was a bit much, likening the experience to a driving test, and ultimately decides not to pursue another date.

Key Discussion Points

• Communication Styles and "The Stoplight Rule"

  • Tina gives real-time feedback to Josh mid-date for being overly chatty:
    • “Well, honestly, you’re talking a lot.” (27:04, Tina)
    • “She explained to me...when you've been talking for 20 seconds, it goes from a green light to a yellow light...once you hit 40 seconds, it's a red light.” (34:04, Josh)
  • The hosts debate whether such direct feedback is helpful or overly clinical for a romantic context.

• Josh’s Reaction

  • Josh says Tina’s framework made him self-conscious:
    • “I felt like I was on my driving test...the instructor was like, speed up, slow down, use your blinker, merge...I just lost all my confidence.” (35:15, Josh)
  • While he appreciated the constructive feedback in the moment, upon reflection he felt it was too restrictive and not conducive to natural conversation or connection.

• Playful Host Interaction

  • The hosts riff extensively on conversational "traffic laws," joking about yellow and red cards during Brooke's tangents, body shots at the zoo, and more.
    • “I’m giving everybody the red light here.” (38:35, Jeffrey)
    • “Would you be her project...under like 20 words. I’m going to give you a yellow light on this.” (39:37, Jeffrey)

• Resolution

  • Tina is happy to help “change” Josh, but he respectfully declines another date:
    • “I don’t think so. I don’t want to feel like I’m going to traffic court every day for the rest of my life.” (39:50, Josh)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “She was polite, but said, you’d probably be going better if you talked a little less.” — Jeffrey (31:07, summarizing Tina)
• “Accept accountability. Like, it's not your fault. You're a long talker...the good news is you're trying to get better. I see the potential in you, and it's so great.” — Tina (36:54)
• “It's interesting. Most people think traffic court is fun.” — Akilah Hughes, sarcastically (39:57)

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Additional Highlights

• Hosts’ Chemistry & Banter: The episode is peppered with playful arguments, gentle roasts, and meta-commentary about podcasting and dating.
• Mini-Discussions on Modern Romance: Both stories prompt broader debates on dating norms, ambition, gender roles, and communication styles—delivered with signature snark and empathy.

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Time | Segment/Event | |-----------|------------------------------------------------------------------| | 02:44 | Segment 1 ("B Dub Flub") begins | | 07:10 | Monica: “Please close my door, because I don’t do Buffalo Wild Wings as a date.” | | 14:18 | Isaac reveals he owns the Buffalo Wild Wings | | 15:23 | Monica’s “stay at home daughter” occupation revealed | | 19:29 | Isaac declines second date—“What I’m doing is ghosting. Bye.” | | 22:27 | Hosts react to “stay at home daughter” status | | 24:25 | Segment 2 ("Red Light Green Light") begins | | 27:04 | Tina: “Well, honestly, you’re talking a lot.” | | 34:04 | Josh explains “Stoplight Rule” | | 35:15 | Josh compares the date to a driving test | | 39:37 | Jeffrey asks for under-20-word reply; Josh declines second date | | 39:50 | Josh: “I don’t want to feel like I’m going to traffic court every day…” |

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Representative Quotes (with Attribution)

• Monica: “My role is to be cared of. That’s my love language. I love to be taken care of.” (17:55)
• Isaac: “I own that Buffalo Wild Wings.” (14:39)
• Tina: “She explained the whole thing to me. Once you hit 40 seconds, it's a red light.” (34:04)
• Josh: “I don’t want to feel like I’m going to traffic court every day for the rest of my life.” (39:50)
• Brooke (about Monica's "job"): “That is not a job. Applying right now. Texting my mom.” (22:27)
• Jeffrey: “I'm giving everybody the red light here.” (38:35)

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Tone

Throughout, the podcast leans into its trademark blend of brutal honesty and humor, with both the hosts and guests unafraid of confrontation or self-deprecation. The discussions are lively, fast-paced, and full of pointed, sometimes biting, wit.

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Conclusion

Both stories showcase why "Second Date Update" remains such a fan favorite: unpredictable real-life dating stories, strong personalities, and sharp banter from the hosts. From Monica’s luxury-inclined lifestyle to Tina’s attempt to enforce conversational rules, the episode underscores that dating is as much about clashing expectations as it is about chemistry.

If you missed the episode, you'll leave with plenty to discuss—and probably a few new rules (or red flags!) to debate in your own dating life.

Transcript

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

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[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

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[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

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[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

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[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

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[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

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[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

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[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

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[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

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[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

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[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

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[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

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[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

It's that and then there's everything else. Dude, his whole life has sounded like the first drop of a roller coaster.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

I mean, I can't even tell you,

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

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[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

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[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

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[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

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[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

with some truly kick ass women on the Girlfriends spotlight. I'm going to climb.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

This is badness hereditary.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Let's see how we can stop killing.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

I'm not too intimidated by her.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

What are you talking about?

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Listen to the girlfriend Spotlight on the

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

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[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Here at the Happiness Lab, we're serving up some hot takes for the summer. Big ideas that just might reshape how you think about your well being. Like the radical notion that we should get rid of small talk completely.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

We talk about current events, we talk

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

about what you do for a living.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

But not do you love what you

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

do for a living?

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Is this your dream job?

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

For more surprising ideas backed by psychological science, check out our new series, Happiness Hot Takes. Listen to the Happiness lab with me, Dr. Laurie Santos, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts, because two is officially better than one. Welcome to your second date classes. I see what you did there.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Yeah, there you go.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

It's Brick and Jeffrey in the morning. We're putting two classics back to back for you so you can get whatever you need to get done done today. Yeah, and just have a little dose of second date on your Saturday. Or the opposite. Don't do anything and just sit and listen. Unproductive. There you go.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

You know, it's too good.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

You got distracted. We don't judge you, all right? Just enjoy it.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Right now, the world is constantly evolving. Yes, we're seeing new technology, new trends, new social norms, even new jobs.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Oh, yeah, for sure.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

And one of our listeners has a job that we had never heard of before. And when she described her profession to us, the whole room was shocked. Alexis was jealous. Seriously, Jose and I were impressed. And Brooke, well, she told this woman she should be ashamed of herself and can do better.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

I'm not wrong.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Okay, to be fair, that's Brooke's response to everyone about everything they said. No, the question is, does her unusual job block her from a happy dating life? We're gonna find out in a second date update right after this.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning, second date update.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

An important part of any Blossom relationship is the first time a woman corrects her man and tells him he messed up. You need to do better. All right, well, this has to happen. It's such a special moment because we need that as guys, if left to our own devices, we'll wear 4 gallons of Axe body spray and think it smells good. Yes, we do need guidance. We'll wash our cashmere sweaters in hot water.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Oh, we love having to correct men. Do you dry? Is that what you do?

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Are we not supposed to.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Can we be mothers to every man out there?

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Thank goodness for women being there to correct us so we can learn. And go, oh, that's how it works.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

You never have to use your own brain.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Well, a lot of women will wait a few dates to correct their men, but not our listener, Monica. She told a guy he messed up on night one.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Yikes.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Uh.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Oh, for his benefit, bro.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

No, it's not. It is so wild.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

That's what happened. Monica, welcome to the show. Was that intro to your liking, or could I have done better?

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

No, you. You hit it. Oh, you did it.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Awesome. Thank you. W. Not just made my day. Monica, thank you so much.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

I'm always so curious why someone says a guy messes up and then still wants to call him for another date.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Oh, that's. You know, we'll get into that. But let's start with what's this guy's name? Who did you go out with?

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Okay, so I met Isaac online, and he seemed really cool. I liked his personality. I like his looks. Definitely.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Okay, so there's a lot of potential there.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Yeah, I really liked him because there's a lot of guys on this app that they will take you forever. I don't do the back and forth, back and forth thing. But he came right down with it. He was like, I want to take you out.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Oh, nice. To the point. Confident.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Yeah. And all about action.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Yeah.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Instead of just living in this weird world of like, what are we doing?

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Yeah, right.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

That's a good note for men, because the more you talk, the more opportunities you're giving yourself to say something stupid. And we will do that.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Exactly.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Well said, Jazz.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Exactly.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Now stop talking. Okay, good for Isaac. Now I'm not gonna say much more. Just keep going.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

What happened?

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Yeah, he said he was gonna come pick me up and take me to the nice restaurant. So, you know, I got up in my nice little dress thinking, yeah, hey. And then he came, pulled up, he got out, he opened my door.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Oh, my God.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Okay. Yeah, he was very nice. I ain't gonna lie. He was nice.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Okay, so everything's working in his favor right now.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

I'm wondering where things start to turn. And you have to step in, and

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

soon as we got off the highway, I'm like, oh, no. Because I see Buffalo Wild Wings.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

B dubs.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Oh, I love.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Yeah. Okay, Lemon pepper wings, let's go.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Are you excited about that or not excited?

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Not excited at all. I just came from Buffalo Wild Wings two nights ago with my homegirls. So what am I getting excited for now?

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Okay, so that he's taking you there for a date and you're not feeling

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

that you expected something a little better.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Okay, a lot better. Not a little. Wow. Look, he puts it in park. He gets out of car, comes around and opens my door like the perfect gentleman he is. And I said, please close my door.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

You said close? You said, close the door while you're still in the car.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

I said, please close my door.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Well, it's nice you were polite.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Please close my door.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

And I Think that he thought I was kidding because he was, like, standing there. I'm like, hello, probably, yeah.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Pretty bold of you to say so.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

You're gonna force him to take you somewhere else?

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

I don't force anybody to do anything. I'm letting him know, please close my door, because I don't do Buffalo wild wings as a date.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Oh, God.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

That's a hangout, not a date. You deserve better.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Such a messy food. It's a terrible first date. It sucks you're in a dress and stuff to go there. Also just makes me uncomfortable.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Women don't want to, like, sit and drink beers and watch sports and scream and spill beer everywhere.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

I'll tell you what I don't want to do on a date. I don't want to watch a whole grown man lick his face. Fingers.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Okay. That's what I'm saying.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

I'm gonna write that down. Sexy. When we sucked on the bone. Fingers.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

So, wait, did. Did he finally listen to you and shut the door?

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Yes, he did. He shut the door. I said, I got three choices for you, and he picked a nice cocktail bar. And I said, okay, cool. So I thought, okay. He didn't know, right? He didn't know. I told him, let's go, and he adapted.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

And he would be offended. He seem offended by the way?

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Like, he seemed more confused than offended.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Okay, but that's just. That's just standard mental headspace for men just constantly.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Right, right.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

How was it, though, when you got to the cocktail bar? Were you able to still keep a good energy together?

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Yeah. He asked me questions about what had just happened. I'm like, yo, I'm a lady, for real. I want silverware. I don't want plastic utensils.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

I am with you on that one.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

So he was like, okay, I never thought of that. So I'm teaching him what a real lady.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Like, I'm sure he actually appreciated the education on how to properly woo a woman.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

How do you know he appreciated it? Because he's not calling you back. Oh, yeah.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Oh, now, that's a good question. And that's why I'm calling you.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

See, I would be insulted. See, I'm thinking that's the reason he wasn't getting second dates before. And now he's got it down, so he's busy. Oh, she taught him too well.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Yeah,

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

that's what a lot of women get upset when they're like, oh, great, I cleaned up my guy just for the next one to come and, like, swipe him up. He's taking 10 girls in that cocktail bar.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

We're gonna get down to the nitty gritty because I want to know. Because I think I did everything right and I taught him how to do everything right. And.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

You deserve a medal and definitely a second date here.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

But what if he feels like you're too high maintenance?

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Then screw that guy, okay? He doesn't want a real woman. Then you'll lay into him, go full hard against him, right? Bro, that's where you come in. You do your thing.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

No, I just think that if you have some boundaries like that, they should be established before the date, not when you're in the middle of it.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

But look, he's the one that asked me out and I accepted, right?

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Yeah.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

So you're gonna learn me on the date. And that's what he did. And if he didn't like what he learned, he could at least responded. You haven't pulled a whole radio show to find out what's wrong with you. That's true. No. I can't wait to hear this.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

I can't wait to hear it, too. So hopefully he picks up. But we're gonna come back. We'll call Isaac for you and figure out why in the world he would not be calling back a classy woman like yourself, Monica.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Yeah, she's a cloth napkin type of lady.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

That's right.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

That's right.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Let's get some answers. When we do. Second date update right after this. Hold on.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Second date update.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

If you're just joining us, we've been speaking to a true hero.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Oh.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Her name is Monica.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Okay.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Who heroically swooped in and saved her date Isaac from pulling a total rookie move, okay. When he tried to bring her to Buffalo Wild Wings for their date. And that wasn't gonna fly with. So Monica refused to get out of his car in order to show him. This is not where you take a lady of substance. She put on a dress. Okay.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

They definitely had a miscommunication over what a dinner date looks like.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

But instead, they ended up at a nice cocktail bar. And they did it the proper way, where she actually discovered Isaac's a pretty good guy, has some gentlemanly qualities, something to work with. So the question is, why is he not reaching out for cocktails? Round two. Monica, is. Is it possible that maybe he saw your helpful sensei teaching abilities as a little bit condescending?

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

That's a possibility. I just wish he would have expressed that to me personally.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Yeah. You seem like a person who can take criticism, constructive criticism.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Of course I can. If I could dis it. I definitely can take it.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Yeah, that's right. That's a good attitude to have. It doesn't happen often on this show.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Would you like to criticize her constructively before we do this call? Is that where you're going?

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Great. She knows who she is, she knows what she wants, and she wants to go out with Isaac, so.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Okay. So, Brooke, you're scared of her and you're afraid to say anything controversial.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

I think Isaac will be scared and will be afraid to say no. So I think you're getting a date no matter what. I also like to scare men.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

I'm going to say she seems like you, Brook.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

I'm with you.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

We're going to intimidate this guy into saying yes to a date. But let's see what he has to say if he picks up the phone. But here we go.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Hello?

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Hey, is this Isaac?

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Yeah, who's this?

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Hey, man, we're a radio show. You're on it right now. It's called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Welcome to the show, Isaac.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Hey, good morning.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Why is the radio show calling me?

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Well, it's kind of a good reason. We do a segment on this show. It's called A Second Date Update. Wait, it sounds like you haven't heard it, but this is a segment where we help out our listeners who've been on a date with someone, and afterwards, they're not getting a call back to go on a second one.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

I think I have heard of it. I think I've seen this online somewhere on.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Yeah, a lot of them are viral on TikTok.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

They're on there. You can follow us at Brooke and Jeffrey if you want to. No pressure, but basically, the reason that we're calling you is there's a woman named Monica who asked us to get a hold of you.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Hey.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Yeah, I met Monica.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Yes, right, we know you met her. Sounds like you guys could have had a great date.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

What did she tell you? What did she tell you? Good question.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Okay, well, I guess the general recap of what we heard from her is you picked her up, then you took her to Buffalo Wild Wings, which she politely redirected over to a cocktail bar.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Well, politely redirected it would be wrong.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

That's gently. I was trying to gently say it. She's our friend, so, you know, we're

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

not gonna be rude. Well, I mean, I wasn't rude either. She just simply kind of barked, closed my door.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Oh, did you?

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

At first, I just stood there like, what do you mean? Like, there's a bug about to get inside my car.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

I can see that.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Yeah.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Oh, my God. Close the door. I was like, okay. So I close the door, and I go back to my side of the car. I get in, and she explains to me, like, hey, I don't do Buffalo Wild Wings. And I was like, yeah, all right. I mean, the reason why I chose the Buffalo Wild Wings, because in these new dating apps, it's better to start out something very casual. Another date, we graduate to something a little better.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

But wait, did you explain all of that to her? What? You just told us why you chose it.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

No, I didn't explain any of that to her. And also didn't tell her this. I own that Buffalo Wild Wings.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

You own it.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Wait, what? Oh, you're a franchisee?

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

You're gonna take her to your own job, though?

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

That's not supposed to be impressive, Alexis.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Yeah, except you get free food.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Yeah, but guys, he's a business owner.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Who cares?

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Okay, so look, I'm gonna be honest. I'm still a gentleman. She wanted to go somewhere a little bit better, so we made our way to this great cocktail lounge that I know. Yeah.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

So what changed your mind? To where now you're not reaching out to her for a second date?

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Okay, so while we're kind of enjoying each other's company at the cocktail bar, I start asking her a little bit more about her life. And of course, we get to, like, what do we do for a living? She kind of skated around it for a while till she came to an answer I'd never heard in my entire life.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

What is it?

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

She says she's a stay at home daughter.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

A stay at home daughter? What does that mean?

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

She's got to be joking. Like that's a joke.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

No, it's not a joke. That's what she told me. She said her occupation at 31 years old is that she's a stay at home daughter.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

I'm jealous. Michael's gon stay at home girlfriend. I mean, that is a real fancy way to say you're unemployed and live with mom and dad.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Okay, so you were turned off because she doesn't have enough ambition or drive or.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

What is it?

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Not a drop of ambition. Not a drop. All right, we gotta cut this right here, okay? I don't know what's going on, all right?

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

I don't want to make her mad, but. Isaac, that's Monica on the other line listening to this conversation.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Well, clearly it's Monica. Clearly.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Maybe she's on her parents landline.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Ooh. You better watch yourself. You supposed to be with me here.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Yeah, bro. Okay, Monica, clearly you wanted to jump in and say something, so go ahead and talk to Isaac.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Hello, Isaac. How are you? Oh, hi, Monica from your mom's couch. How you doing? Oh, oh, no, no, no, no, no. Let me tell you something, Isaac. I don't know what's the disrespect about? I thought we got along pretty well on our date. We had a good time. I didn't know you had a problem with my daily occupation. What is the problem with it?

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

But are your parents, like, elderly? Do you stay home and take care of them? Is that what's going on?

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

No, they're perfectly healthy. Just take care of me. I'm their baby girl and I always will be. Okay, Monica, guess who else is perfectly healthy? You are. Get a job. You know what? Let me tell you something. I am perfectly healthy. Yes, I am, as you can see. And if I had to get a job, I would. But guess what? I don't have to.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

A lot of people are jealous of that.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

I'm with you. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Don't you want a job? Don't you want your own career? Don't you have your own dreams and ambitions?

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Yes, my dream and my ambition is sitting at home planning my date, going and doing what I have to do and finding a man that's gonna take care of me so my parents could stop.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Oh, so that's your. That's your goal, Brooke?

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

It sounds like you're judging her there. And she explicitly asked you not to do so.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

It's really hard not to. I mean, because you would never date a guy who is doing what you do.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

You are exactly right. And they shouldn't. A man shouldn't do what I do.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Yeah, we're the providers, Brooke.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

My role is to be care of. That's my love language. I love to be taken care of. And if it works for me, it works for me.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

She was into the old school chivalry and stuff. I cannot imagine. Imagine being a man, going and meeting your parents for the first time. That sounds like you have to have

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

a present for both of them. Like a diamond necklace for one.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

What's your dowry, sir?

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Okay, well, Isaac, now that she's explained this a little bit more, you're probably more receptive to going out with her one more time.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Look, look, I wish Monica the best. It's just not the best with me.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Please.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Have a great life, Monica. I hope you find a guy slash simp that will Take care. What? I don't think so. Isaac. You're gonna take me out, and that's just the way it's gonna be.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Oh, she's just telling him.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

I love how you want to be the boss, but you don't want to do any of the work to become a boss.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

A boss doesn't work, yo.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

No, I think you have the wrong idea of a boss.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

You don't want to make her mad.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

And that is the problem. Y just don't understand. And clearly I don't understand being a whole business owner and want to take me to his little budget wing. Stop. Oh, you know what? I'm going to be honest with you, Monica. See, there's a difference. There's a difference between a boss and a leader. You're not a leader. Oh, I never said I was a leader. I never said that. I'm a boss. I am a leader. I'm a leader. Okay, then that's all right then. But you could have been a man and leave my ass and called me and told me that. You could have told me that. Why you dodging and running? No one's dodging or running. What I'm doing is ghosting. Bye.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Okay, that was uncalled for, okay?

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

And I don't need him. I don't need him anyway.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

You guys don't need each other. He hung up, by the way.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Get a job. No, you don't.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Yes.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

You don't listen to Brooke.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

You know what you need to do is you need to go to Buffalo Wild Wings and spend your parents money over there.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

No, I'm not going there no more. Look, I'm going to the competition.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

I feel like you're gonna be on the phone a lot with your expectations for dating.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Well, that's okay. Look, I got a lot of time, Boo boo.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Yeah, it's a good point.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

And are your parents hiring for any open roles in your family? Because I would love to be a part of that.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Oh, they're good. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

I'm mangishitigular and I'm back with a new season of the podcast Skyline Drive.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

This time I'm diving into a rabbit

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

hole of peptides, organoids, blood boys, blue

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

zones, and brain replacement. To try to understand what this longevity obsession is all about and what it really means to live forever for all of us.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

I learned about some rad science.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

I can make a brain for you. And then we can test what drug is the best for your brain as opposed to his brain.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Here's some hard truths I would expect

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Indians to age faster, but I did

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

not expect it to be almost a four to five year acceleration and get myself into a world of trouble.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

I'd say probably start bone smashing.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

That doesn't work. Make it look more defined.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

They say it works. I don't know.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Listen to Skyline Drive how to live

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Forever on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

or wherever you go, get your podcast.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Your husband is not who you think he is.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Your body is not what you thought it was.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Your identity is formed by a secret history. I'm Dani Shapiro, and these are just

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

a few of the stunning stories I'll

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

be exploring on the 14th season of Family Secrets. And just then, we felt the plane turn in the air. So much so that the bags that were under people's seats just kind of flew into the aisle. Each week, we dive headfirst into the complex power of secrecy. How it shapes our identities and relationships and how it ultimately can reveal to us our truest selves. My daughter, she's pretending she doesn't know, but is trying to cook and feed me and keep me alive because I wasn't eating anything and me pretending like everything was fine. He kind of shoved me out of the way and said, move. And he went out the front door and he jumped in a car and drove off. And that was the last time I saw him. Listen to season 14 of Family Secrets on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Well, hey, we all learned a new job today. Stay at home daughter.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

That is not a job. Applying right now. Texting my mom. You would last. I'd give you two days back home with your parents.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Are you kidding me?

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Isaac?

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Half of a day at your mom's house?

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Isaac did not. Not like it. Obviously, Brooke does not respect it either, but. Okay, Brooke, let me ask you this, okay. Would it have changed how you felt if Monica was 21 years old compared to 31? Would you give her more grace?

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

No. If she's not going to school, she should be working.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

No.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

That's right. Brooke believes you should start working at age 6 in one of her overseas factories. So, parents, if your lazy first grader is still mooching off of you as a stay at home child, then text in 7, 8, 4, 592. Brook will whip him into shape.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Let me give you some parenting tips.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Yes, and if not parenting tips, we can hopefully at least give you a little bit of dating help. You can email the show. We can call that person who's not calling you back and go check out all of our second date podcasts. Wherever you get yours. They're up at BrookeandJeffrey.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

There's nothing more hacky, more cliche, more overdone gimmick in radio than playing the record scratch sound effect.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Ooh, awkward, man.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Why do you have records in here?

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Do I hear crickets? Nobody's laughing.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

I mean, you've heard it on commercials and in old sitcoms. Honestly, we've probably done it on the show too. A few times.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

We just did it.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Did we do it on my stream?

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

I don't remember.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

But in today's call, you're going to hear a real life record scratch moment that happened that immediately put the brakes on a decent date. Get the vinyls ready.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

You know, if you listen to that differently, it kind of sounds like a zipper going down, which would be a positive on a date.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Brooke hears what she wants to hear, clearly.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

That's right, Jeff.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

What was said. I know. I cringed when I heard it. I'm guessing you will too. In your second date update, right after this.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning second date update.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

What do you do if you're on a date with someone and in the middle you feel like it's going meh, nah, nah. Do you a, order a round of shots to get the party going? Hey, it's a win win, you know,

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

really depends on the establishment you're in. Fair.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Yeah.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

This Denny's lit option B, fake like you're choking so she gives you the Heimlich and at least you get some action out of it.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

A couple broken ribs too.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Yeah. You know, in a great story or c have a very honest one on one breakdown about how the this date is actually going so far, I think I take the Heimlich option over that one. And I wonder if our listener Tina wishes she had done the same. So let's talk to her. Tina, welcome to the show.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Hi. Thank you.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Oh my God. That intro makes it sound like you told your date in the middle of it that it was going terribly well.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

You sent us an email about this person's profile that you met on Hinge, and I'm just going to read some of the things that you sent from his bio before we even get to your story.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Okay, I'm interested.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

So according to this, his name is Josh. He's a specialist in education. His profile says he's dating with the intention of marriage.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Oh, okay. Sounds like a stable guy, good career,

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

and he's into skyscrapers and tropical Fruits. Not sure why we would need to know that information for this, but it's nice to be over informed sometimes. So they ever put a big Apple on the Big Apple? This guy would freak out.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Sounds like if there's a lull in your date, you just bring him to a tall building and he's. He's really excited.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Wow, that's gotta be at least 100 stories. All right, now we have an idea about who's here. Josh is clearly you met him on the app. So what did you two do for your date?

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

We actually went to the zoo.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

The zoo. That's a cute date.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Yeah, we got a couple of waffle cones and we just walked around, looked at animals, and just talked a lot.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

All right, that sounds good.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

I mean, well, he did. He talked a lot.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Oh, okay. Does that have anything to do with the thing I mentioned earlier about when the dates kind of go in, man?

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Yes. He's the one who asked me.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Oh, he asked you how the date was going?

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Yes, because I was being kind of quiet, and so maybe he wasn't sure if I was having fun, so he just asked, like, is the date going okay?

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Was that the first question he asked you? Cause it sounds like he was talking a lot.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Yes, like an orient.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

What did you say?

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

I was like, do you want me to be honest?

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

That's never a good response.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

I would have been like, no, no. And that would have made it fun, right? Like, lie to. Anyways, what happened?

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

You were honest, I'm guessing.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Yeah, because he said, yes, please. So I told him directly. Well, honestly, you're talking a lot. Oh.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Oh, okay. Good feedback. Yeah.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Next date.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

And as a person who talks a lot, it's good to know that. Well, maybe, but some people might take that differently. Did Josh seem offended by the critique?

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

No, he seemed more confused, like, as if he didn't know he was doing it. But he heard me out, and then he tried to take constructive criticism.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

That's good. Oh, that's good.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

And he did a good job of it.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Oh, he did. Okay, good. All right. Yeah.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Okay. We hung out for another hour. Ended up grabbing drinks there. Because at the zoo you can, like, buy beer. Yeah, and I didn't. I didn't even know that.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Dude, they're offering alcohol at every kid's place these days. Parents are just like, we need it.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Do.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

They can theme them too, like sloth shots.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

I don't think. I think it's just beer and wine. Typically.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

It's not like banana beer with the monkeys. It's just to Take the edge off. It's not to turn up.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

People are doing body shots at the zoo.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Oh, man.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Maybe they should.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

I mean, if you bring your own in. Okay, Alexis has a plan.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Okay, Maybe a little bit of beer, a little bit of alcohol helped make the conversation go a little bit better.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Yeah, it actually did.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Oh, he was just nervous, right? Yeah, maybe you're just a strikingly beautiful woman and he couldn't think straight, and that's why he was talking so much in the beginning. Still annoying.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

You said it.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Okay.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

She's not denying that. Well, how did you two leave things at the very end?

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Well, at the very end, we just hugged and said goodbye. But while we were there, we worked on, like, an antelope puzzle, and we did it together, and it was fun, so it was cool. So.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

So the date actually got better then? After, you told him, like, he was talking too much?

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Yeah, it actually did. Like, I mean, he was more mindful. He asked me questions. He allowed me to speak. Yeah.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Oh, so good.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Oh, that is really good.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Then you did an antelope puzzle.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Yeah, I mean, that's not foreplay right there.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Highlight of any date.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Sorry, you said it just led to a hug at the very end. There was no kiss?

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

No. We text since then, but they've all been pretty short, so I feel like now maybe he's overthinking things and he's taking what I said too seriously.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Yeah, totally. Oh, he talked too much before, and now he's not talking enough.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Yeah, right.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

I can see that he's overcompensating.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Or it could be something completely different that I didn't pick up on.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Okay, but you're definitely feeling the vibe. Like, he is not responding enough to ask you out again, obviously.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Yeah, because, like, I'm sending him flirty texts and flirty pics, and he's not responding, and that never happens.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

She's like antelope, skyscraper, guava fruit. He's saying nothing. He's got all he needs.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

That's the problem

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

is wrong with this man.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Yeah, you said it, Jeff.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Follow me for my sexy emoji handbook coming out later on in this winter. Papaya next to the Space Needle.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Is it really an Spoilers? No spoilers.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Okay, first, we got to finish this second date update. We'll call Josh, get some answers, and do it right after this. Hold on.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Second date update.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

I've learned two things so far today, okay? One, You can drink at the Zone Zoo. Okay.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

I can't believe you of all people didn't know that. I mean, I feel like you sniff out a beer wherever it is.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Well, I'm not a zoo frequenter, but look for Brooke and Jeffrey's Listener Zoo Crawl coming soon. We'll meet you by the baboons for Jaeger bombs.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

I think it's like a responsible. You have a beer, Jeff? No, they do adult only zoo days.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Yeah, not on Brooke and Jeffrey's Listener

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Zoo Crawl and Lexus passes out in the bear enclosure. Don't cuddle me.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Hashtag goals. The second thing I've learned is with a enough constructive criticism, you can change a man. Brooke already knew that.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

She tells me every day, it is not worth your energy.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

I say that because our listener Tina, was honest on her date when Josh asked, how do you think this is going with us? And she was polite, but said, you'd probably be going better if you talked a little less.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But he heard her, you know, like, that's the amazing thing. He's like, oh, okay.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Exactly. Their day actually went pretty good after that. He didn't run off and cry near the snake cage like most. Most guys would. He actually stuck around, had fun. They got drinks, did puzzles. So maybe there's another factor playing into all this that we don't know about yet. So, Tina, even though he has all these issues, why is it that you want us to reach out to him today?

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

I mean, like, we had fun together and he's like, a great guy.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Totally.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Well, the fact that he could adjust and take constructive criticism and be mature about it, I think that's a big green flag.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Well, and anybody who's a talker knows that if you get nervous, nervous, your mouth just doesn't shut up.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Okay, maybe let's take some of our own advice there.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

I'm just saying. I get it.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Shut it. And we are going to call Josh. Okay. Let's listen to ourselves. I'm dialing Josh's number right now. Hopefully he picks up. Here we go.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Great. Thank you, guys.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

You're welcome. Now let's do this.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Hello?

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Hey, is this Josh?

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Yeah, who's this?

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Hey, Josh.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Hi, Josh.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Hey, good morning.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

How many arts there? What's going on?

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Yeah, there's. There's a lot of us in here because we're a show. We're called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning. Kind of like a morning zoo, if you will. Oh, my God.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

I worked on a show called the Morning Zoo.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Oh, God. That was supposed to be a joke.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

I know. Isn't that sad?

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Yeah.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

You're on the Radio right now, Josh.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Okay, why?

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Yeah, why is. Because we're doing a segment called A Second Date Update.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Great news.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Waiting for response. It's okay.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

It's okay.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

He doesn't know what it is.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

That's all right. It's a segment. We try to help out listeners who've gone out with someone and they're not getting a call back for a second meetup. So that's the case with you and one of our listeners named Tina.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Hello.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

See, now you're not letting the pause happen.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Well, you're doing it.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Give him a beat. You know, processing a lot right now.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Gotcha. Don't force it. I'll try it again. Tina.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Yeah, Tina. I remember Tina.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Okay, sorry. I know this is probably a lot. I'll just tell you that we spoke to Tina before calling you, and she told us about your hangout. She mentioned the vibe between you may have changed after you asked if everything was going okay in the middle of the date.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Yeah, that's true.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

What did you think about her response? Response?

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Yeah, of her feedback.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

I mean, she used this analogy since she called it the stoplight rule.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Okay. When she was talking about how you were talking too much.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Yeah, we're not familiar with that. What is the stoplight rule?

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Okay, well, she says that when you've been talking for 20 seconds, it goes from a green light to a yellow light because you started to talk too long.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

20 seconds?

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Yeah, 20 seconds. And then you said once you hit 40 seconds. Seconds. It's a red light.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

What?

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Okay, that's like a general rule you're saying.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Yeah, she explained the whole thing to me. And she said that I sped past the red light at least two to three times, which. And I'm like, okay, I didn't know that, like, there was a traffic law for speaking.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

I mean, I guess to get. To get conversation going back and forth, back and forth. Like that ping pong thing. No, that makes 40 feel long. Now I'm trying to count.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

While you were talking just now, I heard it.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

I didn't lose it.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

And this is all feedback you're getting on a first date?

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Yeah, I mean, we were having drinks and, like, got a little bit of my story out, and she was like, you still have the green, but only for another seven or eight seconds.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

She's literally like, you're still allowed to stop.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

I thought it was just one example. And then we moved on from it.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

She's got one of those big speeding guns. She's blocking him. Yeah, I'm counting. Keep going.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

You're not talking enough now, that would be difficult.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Yeah, yeah.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

I like the rule, but it's stressful.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Is that how it felt, Josh?

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Yeah. I mean, I felt like I was, like, on, like, my, like, driving test. Oh.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Yeah.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

When I was 16, the instructor was like, speed up now. Slow down now. Use your blinker merge. And so I just kind of, like, lost all my confidence.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

She's like, I love the way you parallel park that paragraph. Yeah, that was perfect. It's understandable. And you know what? I'm going to tell you something here, Josh. I don't think Tina meant for it to come across that way. Oh, and I'm going to let her tell that to you herself, because she is on the other line right now waiting for me to hit my red light so I can stop talking, and I'm going to give her the green to go. So, Tina, go ahead. The intersection is yours, Josh.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

My God, like, you make me sound so horrible.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Oh, wow.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Wait, wait. Even listening this whole time? Yeah. And you're making me look pretty bad here. Like, what?

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Well, explain yourself.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

I don't think he was making you look bad. He was just saying it was overwhelming, Tina. It was a lot for him to think about. What?

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

I'm sorry, but, like, where's the lie? Like, I didn't say anything that was not true.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

That's what I wanted.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Okay, well, to be honest, when you were talking to the radio host, I stopped listening after about, like, 20 seconds.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Oh, yeah?

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Why are you so offended? You gave him feedback, and now he's

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

giving you feedback because he has a tendency to, like, drone on and on. And he actually thanked me in a moment. And, like, Josh, don't forget that you thank me. What do you say? Like, what do you say to that? Did you not ask me to give you honest feedback? Okay, like, I. I did, but, like, I wasn't expecting you to give up. Accept accountability.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Accept accountability.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Like, it's not your fault. You're a long talker. You just acknowledge it. And the good news is you're trying to get better. And, like, I see the potential in you, and it's so great.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Okay, I don't feel.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

I don't think it's a compliment. You think it is to tell people you see potential in them. It's like you like the person for how they are.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Well, Brooke, I see potential in you in the future. One day. You're garbage right now, Brooklyn. One day soon.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

I didn't mean it like that. I meant it like, he's improving every second and he needs me oh, because like clearly. Because now it's obvious like he hasn't learned his lesson because he is still talking. And I also feel like the hosts are not even paying full attention.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

That's true. I really don't pay that that much attention.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

They're not paying attention like. Like I'm sure they are because you're being rude and insensitive like so there take that advice.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Oh.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

I'm always open for getting better, Josh. But if it doesn't come with a helpful analogy and a short one then it's kind of lost on me.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Like actually the stoplight thing has already been taken so you need to find another sort of like commuter.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Yeah.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Thing we got some bicycle lane like a maritime law kind of thing about compliment speed bumps.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

That would be helpful in a relations.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Yeah. Relationships are not supposed to be this hard especially. But this isn't hard.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

It's a little confusing.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

I told you what it was. I explained to you how it works and I'm pointing out when you go too long. So like what's so hard about that?

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

It feels like one of those roundabouts where you don't know what the third exit is.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Yeah.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

I'm give everybody the red light here.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Okay.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

And I'm just going to tell you a little fun fact about me is that I am not. I am not the best talker either. But I think something we can all agree on, even Brooke will back me on this. Is everybody, all of us here and every person on earth has areas in their speech they could personally improve on.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Can we all agree on that forever?

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Shut up.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

What does that have to do with him thinking she was rude?

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

I'm just saying we all have flaws.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Okay. There's an easier way to say that. But areas it our speech.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

I'm starting to think the 22nd rule is real cuz like you lost.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

It gets boring after that.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Yeah.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

We all have areas speech.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

No more advice is needed. And I should just ask would you care to both improve each other's lives immensely by going out with one another one more time and we'll pay for it.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

I would do it again and do it for charity reasons.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

So backhanded are right back to that.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

So that's a big yes from Tina who is looking to work and change you over the next few years. Josh, what do you say? Will you be her project Satan under like 20 words. I'm going to give you a yellow light on this.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Yeah, I. I don't think so. I don't want to feel like I'm going to Traffic court every day for the rest of my life. So that's a big no for me.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

It's interesting. Most people think traffic court is fun. Well, didn't work out, Tina.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

It's his loss.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

It's his loss. Yeah.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

So much for somebody.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Yeah, I know. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

I'm Mangisha together.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

And I'm back with a new season of the podcast Skyline Drive.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

This time I'm diving into a rabbit

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

hole of peptides, organoids, blood boys, blue

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

zones, and brain replacement to try to understand what this longevity obsession is all about and what it really means to

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

live for forever, for all of us. I learned about some rad science.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

I can make a brain for you. And then we can test what drug is the best for your brain as opposed to his brain.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Here are some hard truths.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

I would expect Indians to age faster,

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

but I did not expect it to

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

be almost a four to five year

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

acceleration and get myself into a world of trouble.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

I'd say probably start bone smashing.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

That doesn't work. Make it look more defined.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

They say it works. I don't know.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Listen to Skyline Drive how to live Forever on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Betrayal Weekly is back with brand new stories from threatening text messages disturbing a small Midwestern town. It was was from an unknown number. Who else is getting these messages? Why did it start with us? To long cons and stolen identities.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Who lies about being this sick? This was the last time I ever believed a word she said.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

New voices, each with the courage to tell their own story. He said, I have been kidnapped. Okay, just try and act normal. He was essentially on the run. Every family has secrets.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

The rug had been pulled from underneath me.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Oh, my God. It was right in front of my face and I didn't even see it. Listen to Betrayal Weekly on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Oh, red light, green light. Fatal in squid game. And apparently in the dating world.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

How do we not make that connection earlier?

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

I don't know.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

It's funny.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

Probably shoulda. But maybe we should use it on this show. As soon as Brooke starts telling one of her pathetic, ugly duckling childhood stories where she tried to show skin to the mailman and even he wouldn't pay any attention to her. Alexis, you're gonna start holding up colored cards.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Oh.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Yep.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

And when it flashes, yellow means time to start wrapping the story up.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

I get red carded and you just monologue for a two minute straight Card, bro.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Card.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

A little too much. We get it.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

We know he said the left one

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

was a little wonky and he wasn't interested. We've heard the story.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

He's always interested. Jeff, it doesn't matter how wonky things

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

are, but if you need help in your dating life, like Brooke did back in her teenage years, you can always email the show. We'll call that person who's not calling you back. And go check out all of our second day podcasts. They're up online. Wherever you get yours at. BrookeandJeffrey.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Here's something that should not be as complicated as it is getting a racist statue removed. And here's something that should be a whole lot easier than it getting a new one put up in its place. I'm Akilah Hughes, and Rebel Spirit Season 2 is about both of those things.

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

As I was watching these statues come

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

down, I was thinking about what it meant that I grew up in a

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

majority black city in which there were more homages to enslavers than there were to enslaved people.

[Akilah Hughes / Anna Sinfield / Dr. Laurie Santos / Mangisha / Dani Shapiro]

Listen to Rebel Spirit Season 2 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever

[Brooke / Jeffrey / Paul Versi / Josh / Isaac]

you get your podcast.

[Monica / Tina / Josh / Isaac / Pete Davidson]

Podcast. Can superstars even exist the way they used to?

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2016 was sort of that last era of monoculture where we still consume things in community. Everybody wanted to be Beyonce at that point. I don't think we'll ever see another Rihanna.

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What does it mean to be black

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and eat in America?

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You will never make me feel bad for being a black girl, for being a black American girl ever. From music to food to the conversations shaping black culture right now, therapy for black girls is bringing it all to the mic. Listen to therapy for black Girls on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

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Paul Verze here and I want to talk to you about Paul's best podcast. Will Ferrell, Big Money Players Network and iHeartRadio. I sit down each week with a special guest and we discuss the absolute best of things.

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Pete Davidson.

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It's that and then there's everything else. Dude, his whole life has sounded like the first drop of a roller coaster.

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Just like Mark Norman. I mean, I can't even tell you,

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Paul, how crazy it was.

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It was insane.

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Listen to Paul's best podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Here at the Happiness Lab, we're serving up some hot takes for the summer. Big ideas that just might reshape how you think about your well being. Like the radical notion that we should get rid of small talk completely.

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We talk about current events. We talk about what you do for a living, but not do you love what you do for a living? Is this your dream job?

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For more surprising ideas backed by psychological science, check out our new series, Happiness Hot Takes. Listen to the Happiness lab with me, Dr. Laurie Santos, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. If you live in LA, you already spend about 89% of your life in

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a car, so we turned it into a podcast.

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On do youo Need a Ride? We pick up our comedian friends, drive around Los Angeles angelists, and discuss what's

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happening in the world around us.

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Cars are very rude to bicyclists, but in this case it's a bicyclist going out of his way to get in the way of traffic.

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All you did was roll your window down.

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He almost hit that.

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It's like a talk show, but going 30 miles an hour.

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New episodes every Monday on the exactly right network.

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Listen to do you need a ride? On the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.