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If you're a guy who's mid to meh who can't pull anything higher than a Sacramento 4, then you need to pay attention because one of our female listeners is a self proclaimed member of the Hot Girls club and going into their date she had absolutely no intention of doing another one with her.
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Okay.
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Until one move this guy made at the very End of the night changed everything. Everything, really? And now she's on the phone begging for us to get a hold of him to figure out why. You're gonna hear it in your second date update right after this.
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Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Second date update.
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I'll admit, when I first started dating, I thought people went on dates to, like, find true love.
C
Oh, that's funny. I think in the long run, I feel like you believe that for a long.
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I really did. What a naive little boy way to think. Because some people. Do you. Some people just date for the free.
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Meal or for the fun of it? Like meeting somebody new because they're bored.
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Exactly.
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Some people just date because they need somebody to administer that EpiPen shot at the shellfish buffet. Oh, my gosh. Why go if you know you're. It's half off of crab's legs. I'm not gonna not eat that. Okay, so, yeah, a lot of reasons. And today, our listener Lucy is asking for a second date, even though she isn't 100% sure why she wants to date this guy.
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That's good. Been there, Lucy.
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So hopefully just talking it out with us might give you some clarity, but welcome to the show.
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Hi.
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I love it. Like, four minutes into our conversation, she just hangs up. She's like, no, actually, you know what?
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This was a bad choice. Well, Lucy, tell us about this guy that you met. Like, start from the beginning.
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Okay. So his name is Nate.
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Okay.
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I just want to get everything out in the open because I'm confused. I am way better looking than this Anne, and she's not coming in hot there.
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Okay. All right.
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I like it. Okay.
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I heard the. He's not as good looking as you. I didn't hear what you said after that.
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Oh, I only heard the humility. So that's.
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Sorry.
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Humble. Lucy, what was the other reason?
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Well, he's not chasing me the way that I normally get chased after a date.
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You normally have men, like, physically chasing you or you just mean, like. Yeah, possibly.
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Most of the time, yes.
C
Okay, can I guess. I mean, not just his looks, but also his personality is probably not typically what you normally date.
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No, not really. Like, we met on Hinge, and he seemed normal, like a nice guy. He's sort of cute. Nothing really special.
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Stop gagging during the description.
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No, I've had this happen to my friends. They're like, I'll give a guy a chance. I'll try something different. And then he stops talking to her, and it's like, what's wrong in the world? You know, something is off. I like how she said he seemed normal and he's obviously abnormal because he's not going out with you.
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But even though he seemed normal and nice and totally out of the ordinary, you still went out with him.
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I did. I mean, yes. I was kind of bored, so I was like, why not?
C
Wow. Yeah. But personality can add to looks once you meet someone. Oh, absolutely. So how was it when you first met him? Like, what was that moment like?
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Well, he invited me to a bar for happy hour, and it was kind of early for a date. It was like five.
C
Well, that's happy hour. Yeah. Yeah.
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Okay.
C
Okay. Yeah.
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You're used to the late night crowd, so.
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All right, so what happened?
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The conversation went well. He was more confident than I thought he would be. He was dressed very well.
C
When you. Can I just ask, like, it sounds like you're saying he's more confident because you still think he's not very attractive.
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Correct.
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Okay. So I want to know, when you very first saw him, what was your reaction?
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I think it was like, I'm doing this guy a favor.
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Okay. You're like, he's not crying yet, but he will be when I'm done.
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You didn't say that out loud, right? I'm just being honest. Okay. You guys asked me the question.
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All right? Sometimes I do see couples and I'm like, wow, she's gorgeous. How did he pull her? No, I'm wondering, do girls do this? And in their head, it's like a charity case. Well, you have to understand, she's the one that's calling us right now.
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Yeah. So she's the one chasing him.
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Yeah.
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Okay. Although there's a reason we didn't answer your first question, Jose. But that's okay.
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Don't ask me to wanna know.
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Yes.
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Alexis didn't answer. So tell us more. What happens during this happy hour drink.
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State conversation went well, and then he started asking about what type of food I like. And I was like, he's gonna try to roll this into grabbing dinner with me.
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Oh, God.
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Oh, you said cool. No, she thought.
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Okay, I thought. She's like, oh, God, this guy's gonna try and feed me too. Is that kind of where you're. You're normally at, Lucy?
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I mean, you're making it sound like it's out of the ordinary, but that's not where my head was at the time.
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Okay.
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You're excited to continue the date with him?
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Excited might be a strong word, like medium excited.
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All right. Okay. Willing to go along with it. A Little longer. Yeah.
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Okay. But here's the weird thing. I tell him what kind of food I'm interested in. Like, Italian, Japanese. And his response, cool. Well, anyway, this has been chill, but I gotta go meet up.
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Immediately. That was his response to you?
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That's not even a good review of the date. Like, this has been chill.
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Why would you even ask what I like to eat? And I just said, meet up with who? And he was like, oh, just a friend. I'll catch you later, though.
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Oh, okay. I want to know something. This guy may be a huge player. This feels like the perfect.
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I don't think so. I think that he just. Just maybe saw through that you. She's fake, weren't attracted to him, and. And you were interested in surface things.
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Did you miss that? I am way better looking than him. Like, he never should have had a chance.
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Some people aren't looking for just look. Or you gave off, like, I'm better than you vibes like you.
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But he did say, I'll catch you later.
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Yeah.
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So there's some hope for a second meet up there. Did he ever. What was that? The end of all conversation?
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Well, I texted him a little later and I said, hey, I had a really great time. It was cool meeting you. And he just hearted it. What the is that? What is that?
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He could have just thumbs up and that would have been worse.
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I can't wait to talk to this guy.
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See, I don't feel like.
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Like, why do you want to go out with him again? It's just like a game.
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I don't. You don't?
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Well, then why are we calling him?
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Yeah, what made you reach out to us for help?
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Well, we have to hear his side.
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True.
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I'm too curious. Like, who did he have to meet that was more important than me at that moment?
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Someone prettier.
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I'm going to tell you, I don't think you're going to like anything he says.
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Yeah, maybe his, like, family member was in the hospital and he had to go visit her or him at that point. Would that change your mind?
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You don't say meet up with someone if you're going to the hospital.
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My dad's pretty much dead right now.
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See you later.
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Got to go meet up.
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She decided the moment she saw him that she was not going to go out with him again. It's just that he isn't calling her back. It's driving her nut.
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There is a little bit of a power dynamic going on, and I am excited to hopefully get him on the phone. We'll see what he has to say if he answers in your second date update right after this. Hold on.
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Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Second date update.
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Let's recap what we know about our listener Lucy and her date with Nate the other day.
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It's a rough one, Jeff.
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Well, I don't know. Number one, according to her, she is way hotter than him. Him?
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Yeah.
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Number two, he was lucky to be going out with someone as hot as she was. Sure. And number three, his personality was fine, but not as fine as her hotness. And despite all of that, Nate was the one who cut their date short after just one drink.
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So weird. It seems like she's so deep. Like they had so many.
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It is.
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At one point, she was shocked that he was confident in talking to her.
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Yeah, why would he be confident?
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Eye contact. I'm not sure, but it's all very unusual for Lucy. Clearly it's got her a little bit flustered, very confused. Which is the reason why she wants us to give him a call and get some answers. Right, Lucy?
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You guys make me sound like I'm so shallow. I'm not.
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Okay, okay.
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Read the text.
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You know what? I think that just the conversation we had made that happen. But yeah.
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Yeah.
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Look, I am just trying to paint a picture for you here. I think it's very important to note that I am, in fact, hotter than him.
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Okay?
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Factually. Not like a brat. We're not disputing that. We all. We all agree.
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I want photos.
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Well.
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Don'T you get it.
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Under her, Lucy, we're all taking your. Your word for it. But I think what. What would really help us is if you could think of one nice thing to say about him that we could bring up once we get him on the phone, something that you liked about him.
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That's a good idea, Jeff.
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He really did hold down a conversation. Well, okay.
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Hold the combo.
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That's okay. And you actually sound sincere about that, which I appreciate.
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Okay. When I say he did that. He barely did it, but he did it.
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Okay, but I'm just gonna make a note he to have a conversation so that I can compliment him, sort of.
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No, don't add that. Let's just end it there.
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I'm just going to bring it up to him just so we can say something nice, and that usually helps people open up a little bit.
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Sounds like a confident, great guy.
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Okay, so let's hope he holds a conversation. We're going to talk to him on the radio if he answers.
C
That's true.
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First we got to get him on the phone. Let me dial him. We'll see if he picks up, and then we can move from there. Here we go.
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Hello?
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Hey, is this Nate?
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Yeah.
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Oh, yeah.
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He's got a cute voice.
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Oh, wow.
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Brooke coming on strong.
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Okay, give him some compliments, okay, Alexis.
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All right. Who's this?
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This is. We're a radio show. We're called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning.
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Hey, Nate. Welcome to the show.
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Okay, good morning. Yeah, I'm a little busy right now, man. What's going on?
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Yes, we won't take up too much of your time. What we're doing is a segment, it's called a Second Date Update, where we're trying to help one of our listeners get back in touch with you after you two went out on a hot date the other night.
C
A short date. I think he ended it pretty short.
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Who are you talking about?
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It's a woman named Lucy.
F
Lucy?
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Yeah.
F
Okay.
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Super serious. The laughing.
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It totally checks out. It totally checks out that she'd be the one calling you. Yeah.
D
What does that mean?
F
Yeah, she's texted me, like, four times in the last couple days. Like, I barely respond to her, so that's.
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Okay.
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So clearly you. You know, what you're doing here, this is all on purpose.
C
It's a power play. It sounds like.
F
Well, it's just she's that type of girl. Like, there's a type.
C
What does that mean? Explain the type, though.
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Like, she's very attractive, but she's been told all her life says she's attractive, so she knows it. And then she's like, no, I'm better. And I'm like, okay, relax.
C
So do you. Do you not like her, then? Like, is that negative or positive? I can't tell.
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No, she's fine. It's just a matter of, like. There's two things you got to deal with with women like Lucy. Keep the date really short. Right? That's the thing. You got to keep the day really short. Like, I knew that if I kept a date going longer, longer, I had this suspicion that she was, like, all good, a free meal out of it. And I'm not. That's not what I'm about.
D
Okay, so this. This is like a rule, a strategy that you've come up with for dating beautiful women?
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It's not just beautiful women. It's beautiful women who know that they're beautiful and think that they're better than you because they're beautiful. Good.
C
Okay, so wait, no, Jeff.
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Specific type of girl. Well, then most women, in my case.
C
Sorry, I Don't get it, though. Like, you want to keep the date short because you want to keep her attracted to you, or you want to keep the date short because you don't ever want to see her again?
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No, it's definitely because I want to keep her interested. And with a woman like Lucy, the longer the date goes, the less interested she becomes because she knows all about you.
D
So you mentioned earlier, there's two things that you always do. You keep the date short. Was one.
F
Yeah.
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Was there another one?
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You don't give them any information. You just. Hey, I gotta go. Talk to you later.
C
So when you said you were gonna meet up with a friend, that was a lie?
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That wasn't a lie. That was. We were at the gym. I went. I want to go to the gym to meet a friend at the gym. But I'm not gonna give her specifics. I'm not gonna wear and when and with who, because I know that the moment I say that, all the mystery is gone.
C
Wow.
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Wow. Oh, my God.
F
Yeah.
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Who's used to dating hot girls.
C
Okay, so she found. She found someone who.
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Specific type. You're right. Yeah.
C
I mean, that's what it is.
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So, clearly, you seem to have some sort of strategy with her. Is some. Well, a very clear. A very clear plan. When do you plan to actually meet up with her again? Like, how do you make that happen?
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Well, when I reach out to her, I'll say, like, hey, do you want to get a couple drinks? Or do you want to get some dinner tonight? And it's always got to be, like, last minute.
C
Okay, yeah, throw her a bone.
F
I've been dodging her, and I've been keeping it vague for so long that now she's gonna to be like, oh, I got to strike with the iron hot. That. That's all right.
C
I'm worried we ruined his plan.
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Yeah, you're breaking Brook's spirit. The more that you talk about it.
C
It'S just like, well, you could have been so. I'm proud of him.
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Yeah.
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I think he's proud of himself, clearly.
C
Put this energy or go out with someone who thinks they're better than you.
F
Yeah, I. I definitely wouldn't do this with everybody. I don't do this whole, like, every woman is the same thing. I just know the type of woman, and when I ask her, hey, what do you like to eat? And she's, like, hinting at the most expensive restaurants. Oh, this it. Come on, dude.
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He had it all thought. You know how these women are. They try and, like, manipulate You. They try and, like, tell you how to live the relationship, and then they wait on the other line of this phone call, listening in on this radio show this entire time to everything that you said.
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Right.
F
Well, what are you talking about? What does that mean?
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Well, I thought. I thought you would have known by now. Lucy's on the other line listening to this.
F
What? What?
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Yeah, that's how this works. Lucy, are you there?
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Hi, Nathan.
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He was Nate before.
C
Wow.
D
He's by his full name.
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You seriously thought, like, you were gonna hit my confidence? Babe, you can't breadcrumb me, okay? I own the bakery. What?
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Oh, God.
F
Lucy. Lucy, you can't say all of this after you've called the radio station to get a hold of you.
E
You're not curious about why you were being an. And now I know it's because you like games.
D
What?
F
I just. I'm better at the game than you.
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Are the pickup artist. Okay, you think negging women is the way to go? You are an idiot.
F
No, that's not true at all. That's not true at all. I think negging you is the right way.
E
Well, guess what, honey?
F
It does.
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Doesn't work that way.
C
It doesn't. It just did.
F
You literally called the radio station to get a hold of me. How are you saying that?
E
No one treats me like that. No one treats me like that.
F
That's why you're interested?
C
Okay, everybody's talking at the same time.
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In her defense, which she probably doesn't have a lot she did say, remember? Even if he likes me, I don't want to go out with him again.
C
I mean, here's the thing, Lucy, like, it's not that you're beautiful, it's that you're.
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I am.
D
Well, yeah, Brooke.
C
Yeah, I understand.
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Give her the respect that she's. She's gorgeous.
C
The reason he's playing the game is because you go around acting like you're better than everybody else. And that is.
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Facts are facts. I am better looking than him.
D
Okay, well, he's on the phone. Yeah, he is listening to this. Lucy.
F
Yeah, she absolutely is better looking than me. But I have her wrapped around my little finger.
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I got your finger right here. Okay. Can you guess? Big one.
D
Wow. Let's save that for the bedroom, guys, because this is getting a little bit smaller. Spicy. What? I think I. I'm trying to just read between the lines of that conversation. And what Lucy was trying to say is she's willing to give you one more chance to do the date the right way.
C
I think she's talking right now.
D
Well, Lucy, this is going to be my time because we're running. We're running short here because I have to ask Nate. Would you be willing to go out with Lucy one more time?
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You ask me? You don't need to ask him because I reject him.
C
You reject him? Is that. Was that your last power move?
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Lucy was scared.
F
He' I'm not even going to say yes or no. That's the beauty of you. I'm just going to leave it vague and I'll just wait for her text later. No.
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Oh, bro.
E
You think she's texting?
C
He's so good.
D
Oh, my God. So good.
C
I know Alexis wants to text.
D
All right. It's a game of chicken.
C
I'm going to need to see you.
B
I'll text you.
D
Who's going to text who first?
E
Nathan, you son of a.
C
It's going to be her.
D
Yeah, she's going to be right now.
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Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
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Me, or was that guy, like, the hot girl whisperer? Just knows exactly what to say to any hot girl to have them eating out of his hand.
C
I don't think it's that hard when they're not that deep, Jeff. Yeah, she's right.
D
But that. That in itself is like a crazy, difficult thing for a guy to do.
C
But why would you want to? That's my whole point. There's plenty of hot girls that have sex. Substance. Like, why would you want one without it? Show me one, Jeff. It's not a, hey, you got out of pink dinner for her right here. She's a hot girl with substance. That's nice of you.
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That's true.
C
The room's silent, but I'm glad you think so, bro.
D
I mean, this whole strategy really was just like, basically, don't say anything.
C
Yeah, Right.
D
For guys. Yeah. Just stay vague. Don't tell them anything. Which is interesting. And this is why I'll never get dates, because I can't shut up. So if we want hot girls to listen to our podcast, I guess we should just be vague about it. Oh, yeah. So any hot girls? It's online somewhere. Comedians. Yeah. Go find it. We gotta.
C
Guys are never gonna date someone higher.
E
Yeah, but think about the hot girls.
D
Are gonna listen to our podcast.
C
Oh, I'm sure.
D
Yeah, that's right.
C
They can't resist you.
D
By the way, the official one is Brooke and Jeffrey's Second date update. There's a lot of fakes and knockoffs right now, so don't be fooled.
C
I mean, seriously. Thank you.
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Brooke and Jeffrey's second date. Find it online wherever you get your podcast.
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Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning.
D
Typically, people come to us for help when they can't get someone, they like to call them back.
C
Yeah.
D
Yeah. But that's not the case today.
C
Oh.
D
One of our listeners says the woman he went out with is still 100% in contact with him.
C
Whoa.
D
In fact, she's blowing up his phone non stop.
C
What?
D
Very angry emails demanding that he come find her. And he swears it's all a simple misunderstanding. And now he just needs a chance to explain before she calls the cops on. Oh, my God. You're gonna hear why in your second date update right after this.
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Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning second date update.
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We're entering dangerous territory just by doing this phone call.
C
Really?
D
Because the guy we're speaking with may or may not not currently be involved in an ongoing crime.
C
Okay.
F
Oh, no.
C
Did he call us collect?
D
He did not call us collect. And I said may or may not.
C
Then he's not.
D
It's nothing major, just a run of the mill grand theft auto that happened during his first year. If he did not, why would you even bring it up? I'm just saying we've all been there.
C
Yeah.
D
One second you're flirting, talking about your hobbies. Next minute you're hotwiring a Beamer convertible while she looks out for the cops.
C
Nice choice. I like that your style is.
D
I'm just speculating on it, but let's talk to Jason and get all the details first. Jason, welcome to the show.
F
Hey, thanks for having me.
C
It's like. It's actually a Honda Accord.
D
Yeah. You know, a lot to unpack here, but why don't you start at the beginning? Tell us about this. Have happened on a date?
F
Yeah.
C
Wait, you actually hotwired a car?
F
No, no, no, no, no, I did not.
D
Oh, I may have made that part up.
C
But again, I mean, like, I thought so, but then his response, and I was like, wait, what?
D
That's on me. I'm like, is this Vin Diesel? Is this. I was just guessing, but tell us about the date that you went on. Who's the girl?
F
So I met Laura on a dating app.
C
Okay, Laura. And what'd you like about her?
F
You know, honestly, like, she's just my type. She's got a great personality. She's funny. Keeps a conversation clean.
D
Criminal record important. She can help me. Exactly.
F
Yep. Really good credit score.
C
That's funny, Jason.
D
That's awesome.
F
Yeah. And, you know, she was just my type. Physically attractive too. She definitely, like, worked out and all that stuff. But anyways, we're having a date, you know, decided to meet for dinner.
C
Yeah, it's pretty normal so far.
F
Yeah, everything's going fantastic, to be honest with you. And I normally would just be, you know, after a first date, just split ways there and just say goodbye. But it was going so well that I was like, do you Want to maybe grab dessert?
C
Oh, okay. Go to a second spot. Because you're just feeling it. You don't want it to end. That's such a great feeling.
D
So was the ice cream shop so far away you needed to steal a car in order to drive there?
C
Oh, where's the crime? I want to hear it.
D
How do we get to stealing a car?
F
Well, first of all, I didn't steal a car.
A
Oh.
F
So we were on our way to get dessert. She offered to use her car, which was fine. We were walking back to her place.
C
Use her car. Most people say drive, but yeah.
D
Okay. A true thief to go use the product.
B
Yeah.
F
Okay. Yeah. So she offered to drive her car, and so we walked back to her place. And on the way there, I. I get a text message from my friend and he's. He tells me about this pop up event that this DJ we love is putting on.
C
Oh.
F
It's outside of the city, so it's not just like walking distance and.
C
Okay.
F
Okay.
D
That sounds fun though.
F
Yeah, I mean. And so I asked Laura. She said, do you mind if I borrow your car for something really important?
C
Wait, what? Why wouldn't you ask her to go with you? Do you have a car? You could go get your own car.
F
I don't have a car right now.
A
Okay.
D
Okay. So you asked. Don't invite her. You asked to borrow her car to go to this event. Probably where you went wrong.
F
I mean, like, it was our first date and my friend just hit me up. I really. It wasn't really my role to invite her. My friend invited me. It was. It's like. It's like our favorite.
C
You're like, that is an inappropriate question on a first date, but asking to use someone's car, totally cool.
E
Well, I was.
F
I was in a pinch and I wanted to make it there. She did give me permission. She said, I trust you.
D
Wow.
C
I would make you Uber instantly. She said, yes.
D
You must be a pretty awesome guy. Or a very good looking guy. She must really like you, bro.
C
Well, she's just not very good at decision making. Yeah.
D
I'm willing to side with you on this, Jason. I think there's something to you that made her trust you.
F
Yeah, I mean, like, the car is fine. I'm trying to give it back. It's just the timing was off.
D
Wait, you still have it?
F
I do have. I've been trying to give it back.
C
Did she know why you took it, like, where you were going?
F
No, I just said something important came up and she didn't ask. She Just said I. Yeah, take it.
D
What a sweetheart. She's probably thinking that some sort of, like, emergency that you have to, like, rush to the hospital or something.
C
Did you skip dessert to Brooke?
D
Oh, you cannot have Jeremy Sue.
F
There is no. No dessert.
D
Okay, but I know why she's not calling back.
C
That's kind of, like, bailing on her. On her, though, because, like, the date was still continuing. So not only did you take her car leave, but you left kind of in the middle of plans.
D
Physically bailed on. Well, hold on. Was the show worth it?
C
What?
D
All the show. I mean, Brooke cares about whether or not they ate the dessert. I want to know about the show that he left to go see. Want to the girl.
F
I mean, honestly, the show was great, and I'm so glad I went.
D
Okay. Something good came out of this.
C
She not calling you back when you have her car?
F
Well, she has left me some voicemails, and she's, like, basically upset. But here's the thing, though. I texted her the next day, but by the time she got back to me, I was already at work. And unfortunately, I. Like I said, I don't have a car. So I. I took her car to work, and then it's been, like, three days now.
D
Oh, my God.
C
I mean, I would be calling the police. Honestly, I would. That this guy has stolen my car. He's a total thief.
D
He did think better than calling the police. Call us. We have more authority.
C
Oh, my God. She is freaking out. Is her voicemails that she leaves? Is she just livid?
D
Why do you always assume the worst, Brooke?
C
Cause he has her car and they sketches her.
D
I bet she's casual. Isn't she casual, Jason? Jeff, she's freaking out.
F
Well, it started casual, but now it's been, like, a handful of voicemails, and she's pretty upset.
A
Okay.
F
I mean, like, I'll text her back and try to set up a time, and she can't. And then it's just, like, she just gets more angry.
C
Are you looking for another date, too, or are we just trying to set up a time for y' all to meet and do this car exchange?
F
I would love to go on another date with her, and I'd love to get this car back to her.
D
Okay. Look at that.
E
Yeah, good luck.
D
The fact that he has come to us asking for help returning the car proves that he's not a thief, he's not malicious, and he wants to find love out of this. This whole experience.
C
And a date would be a good time to get the car Back it would be.
D
So let's do this. We're gonna come back, we're gonna call Laura and we're gonna explain everything, get her car back to her, and try and get you your second date update right after this.
F
I'm ready.
D
All right, here we go.
C
Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Second date update.
D
Top three first date mistakes.
C
Okay.
D
Show showing up late, being rude to the wait staff, accidentally stealing your date's car and holding on to it for several days. What a stereotype. Because that's what happened with one of our listeners, Jason, recently. Oh, and stealing isn't really the right word because he got permission from his date Laura to borrow her car temporarily.
C
Yeah, she thought it was probably for.
D
The night, but afterwards, Jason hasn't been able to coordinate a time and a place to return it, so he's been driving it around to work and to other events, so.
C
Nice.
D
It gives us two goals for today's call. One is to get Laura's car back into her possession. And then two, finagle our way into getting them on another romantic date.
C
Which is going to be real hard when she's leaving him angry voicemails right.
D
Now, but I believe in us. Okay, I want to know, Jason, if we can get Laura on the phone here, is it okay if we tell her that you took her car for a pop up DJ show show?
F
Honestly, I really would like to go on another date with her, so I'm hoping maybe we could just leave it out.
C
Yeah, I think that's a smart choice.
D
Should we make something up?
C
No, no.
D
You heard about a baby stuck in a well out in the countryside, so you went to go save it?
C
I just think that maybe we just leave it generic. He needed the car.
D
Okay, Let her come to her own conclusions.
C
Sure. I bet she doesn't really care. I bet she just wants her car back.
D
Or, Jason, you can tell her yourself if you feel up for it.
F
Hey, yeah, I mean, I guess we could kind of test the waters first.
C
And see, I'm sure at the point when you're all laughing about the whole situation together, then you can throw that in.
F
Yeah.
D
You're going to look back on this as a funny joke on your wedding day?
C
Isn't that silly?
D
Anyway, let's call Laura here and we'll see if she picks up. Here we go.
E
Hello?
D
Hey, we're looking for Laura.
E
Speaking.
D
Hey, Laura, I'm gonna apologize in advance for this phone call, but you're on the radio right now with Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Where are you apologizing she's on our show.
B
That's a good thing.
E
I'm on the radio.
C
Yes, yes, congrats. We're here to help.
E
How did. How did you get my phone number? I don't understand like this.
D
Why we were asked to call you from one of our listeners who he went on a. Interesting date with recently.
C
God. And you are the nicest person we may have ever had on this immediate.
D
Sweetheart, are you sitting down right now?
E
Yes. Why?
D
Because the person that we're calling about, actually, he has your car.
E
No, you're not talking about him.
D
Yeah, we're calling for Jason.
E
Oh, my gosh.
D
On behalf of Jason, we apologize. So much for the confusion that's happened over the last few days.
C
I mean, what a dummy he is.
E
Well.
C
Oh, you.
E
You should be apologizing. This is cr. I need to get my car back. You need to get me.
D
Yeah, we agree. That's part of what we're doing here. We'd like to help you and Jason coordinate a time in order for that to happen, but we also have.
E
Well, that's what I've been trying to do, and it's not been responsive.
D
You know, the car confusion aside, like, Jason. Pretty cool guy, right? I don't think that's a good time.
E
I wouldn't call him that. I wouldn't call him that.
C
Can. I asked, like, what were you thinking when he asked to borrow your car on a first date and you said yes, and we.
D
And we asked that in the nicest way possible. Yeah.
E
Well, okay, so I don't know what he told you, but at the end of our date, he was like, oh, let's go get dessert. Let's go have a nightcap. Let's have a sweet time.
C
Yeah. He said he was having such a good time with you, he didn't want the night to end, so.
E
Well, it did, because he got a text on his phone, and he looked at me, and he was like, in City hall. Hall. I work for City hall. It's an urgent matter. Can I borrow your car?
D
Wait, what? City's calling.
C
Wait, he told you he worked for city hall?
D
Like Batman or something?
E
Yeah, but he says a matter of urgency.
D
The mayor's on the floor.
E
He, like, literally drives off like Batman. I don't. I'm shocked. I wanted to help. He asked very sweetly, and I was like, okay, that's fine. And then I can't get in touch with him, right? So I call city hall and try to figure out from his name, because I was first, last name. But it Turns out he doesn't really work for City hall in an extremely professional matter. He works in the janitorial apartment, which is fine, but I'm not sure why he would need my car.
C
Oh, he does work there, though. It's better.
D
Laura, are you saying that if you're just a janitor at city hall call, then you don't have the authority to take someone's car on official government business?
E
Yes, I'm saying that they have emergencies too.
C
I mean, it could have been a water main break, right? Like, I'm just thinking, like, documents could have been at risk, but.
E
Well, then why wouldn't he give it back to me?
C
Well, I think he's trying.
E
About 30 minutes away from calling the police, so he needs to get my car.
D
Definitely.
E
This is like, not funny.
D
You don't have to do that because. Because Jason is actually on the other line right now in your car, wanting to drive it wherever you tell him.
C
Say that. What are you doing, Jason?
E
That idiot. Like what?
D
Oh, well, he's. He's hearing all that.
C
He deserves that. Jason.
E
I don't care. I don't care. I don't even know what this is. Like, he called the radio to tell you guys that he did something illegal.
D
Jason, anytime you could jump in.
E
Seriously, I mean, I.
F
It's okay. I don't even know what to say. I've been trying to meet up with you and stuff like that and I didn't steal your car. It's not like I said.
E
Just tell me what you use the car for.
D
Oh, God. Go ahead, Jason.
F
I mean, listen, I really want the opportunity to be honest with you because I do think it's important to be honest. And you know, first of all, I do work at city hall hall, so I mean, like, I was telling the truth there.
D
Yeah, gotta give him credit for that, Laura. At least a little bit.
E
Okay, yeah, I'll give them credit for mopping the floors the city hall. Sure.
D
Okay. And cleaning out the paper towels in the bathrooms too. It's not selling short.
F
I will not take that personal because I know you're just trying to be mean and you're upset, but I. I just hear me out. It was very.
E
Okay, I'm waiting.
F
I. So there was a huge pop up event that just happened that take place. It was a surprise. My.
E
Are you kidding me?
F
Just hear me out though. It was. My best friend texted me. It was for the moment, obviously. I would never try to hurt you or try to lie to you or do anything to like.
E
Are you serious right now?
F
But it was, like, so just. It was our favorite dj.
E
You made it seem like it was really urgent at city hall, like you're a freaking Batman or something.
C
Something.
E
Okay. And there was a pop up DJ event.
F
Well, where we were located and the time. It was short notice. And where we were located and how.
E
Shut up. Yeah.
C
Yeah, I think that's a really good advice.
E
I'm done with these stories. It's not cute. You called the radio. Get me my car. I don't really want to ever speak to you again.
D
Okay, I think the good news is that even though we've obviously gone down a rocky road here, here, their relationship and their goodwill is still intact.
C
Are you hearing the same?
E
Okay, guys, I love that you think it's funny, but I'm really not interested in this conversation. Get me my car.
F
I know you're not interested in this conversation right now, but what about a conversation when I drop off the car, we meet for dinner, we can have another conversation.
D
The tempers are running hot right now. Maybe after we all calm down, we can think about, like, maybe having a little bit of a romantic connection going on.
E
So you would have a romantic connection with someone who stole your car for three days? That is stupid.
D
I mean, it works in the movies, so, like.
E
Yeah, but I haven't been able to get to work. Oh. Oh, and I've been having to get rides from friends.
D
Jason, would you be willing to. Willing to take Laura to work?
C
No, Jeffrey, shut up. She is gonna hang up before we get her her car bag. I'm gonna say, like, in the next, like, hour. You should probably drop it off, Jason.
E
How about 30 minutes?
D
Yeah, let's.
C
You are really lucky she hasn't called the cops.
F
I mean, honestly, like, I could probably do it in, like, closer to, like, 45 minutes because I. 30 minutes is cutting away.
C
Shut up.
F
I know. I'm. I'm the. I'm not trying to be a pain. More up. You just. You want it now, and that's fine, but it's 45 minutes.
D
His favorite DJ set doesn't end for another 20 minutes, so he's got to finish right out before you can return the car at a morning concert.
C
Oh, my God. Just drop the car.
E
As long as you get there in 45 minutes. I'm. I'm.
F
All right.
C
We did one.
D
We did it. Congratulations, Jason. You're not going to jail.
C
Well, we don't know she got.
D
They could be waiting.
C
Yes.
E
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Are you serious?
D
I didn't even get to offer them a gift card for 10% off oil changes at Jiffy Lube.
C
I mean Jeffrey, you're positive activity on this one.
B
Wow.
C
Wow. Dude, is she gonna get her car back? That's what I'm worried about.
D
Well, he better or else the cops are going to be coming after him.
C
Yeah.
D
You know where he lives? I don't think so. That's what I'm saying. But it would be funny if the police were there waiting for him to show up. She could call them and just say wait here.
C
I don't think he'd find the humor in that.
D
Not funny for him, but for us. Oh, hilarious. Yeah, that's good. He calls us from jail for an awkward Tuesday. Can you bail me out?
C
We're like, no, maybe his story is gonna end up as a laser story.
D
We're gonna keep you updated about this one way or the other when we find out. You'll find out.
C
Yeah, exactly.
D
But we can always try and help you with your dating life. As you've seen, we will go to the ends of the earth to try and get you a second date update. No matter how stupid we end up, if this goes, prove it. Nothing does. So email the show. We'll call that person who isn't calling you back. Check out all of our second date updates, by the way, at the Brooke and Jeffrey podcast. Wherever you get yours on Spotify, on Apple Podcasts, wherever.
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Podcast: Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Episode: Second Date Update Classics: Beauty and the Meh + Getaway Car
Date: January 24, 2026
Theme: The hosts revisit two of their most classic “Second Date Update” segments: “Beauty and the Meh” and “Getaway Car.” In each, listeners turn to Brooke, Jeffrey, and team for help when their first dates go hilariously—and sometimes disastrously—off-track.
This special episode features two of the show’s most memorable and entertaining calls:
Beauty and the Meh
Getaway Car
Both stories are full of sharp wit, role reversals, and the wild, awkward energy that defines the Second Date Update genre.
Lucy, self-described “member of the Hot Girls Club,” calls after her date Nate mysteriously cuts their evening short. Used to being “chased,” Lucy is baffled by Nate's lack of interest and demands answers.
Lucy's Perspective (06:20):
Details of the Date (07:50):
Power Dynamics (10:47):
Jason calls for help returning his first date Laura’s car, which he borrowed (with permission) and then kept for three days, sparking Laura’s wrath and a mounting threat of police involvement.
Date Setup (27:13):
Escalation (30:03–31:24):
The Confrontation Call (34:40):
Beauty and the Meh Start: 03:32
Lucy's Call: 06:09
Lucy Describes Nate: 06:20–08:25
Date Recap: 07:50–09:03
Nate Joins the Call: 14:17
Nate Reveals Strategy: 15:25–18:17
Power Struggle Finale: 19:00–21:44
Getaway Car Start: 25:20
Jason Explains Car Mishap: 27:13–31:07
Laura Confrontation Call: 34:40
Laura Learns the Truth: 36:04–39:39
Jason’s Lame Excuse: 41:18
Wrap-up: 44:55
Catch further outrageous Second Date Updates on the official Brooke and Jeffrey podcast, available via iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts, and Spotify.