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Oh my God. The to do list is so long on a Saturday before Thanksgiving. Oh, man. We're here for you. Just so you know, it's Brooke and Jeffrey and we've got two back to back classics for you. So you can just get done whatever you need to get done and not think too hard about it. Yeah, we love that. We hope you enjoy it and we love to start with a comment from one of our listeners. Yes, actually it's from one of our friends, Jamie Glassman and Jamie the artist. Yes, yes. Jamie has drawn and painted us multiple different characters and portraits.
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And Jamie, if you're listening, your fairy.
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God, the fairly odd parents.
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The fairly odd parents drawing of me is still my discord. It's still the giggle gang official poster.
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I have one of her drawings up in my office. Right. Yeah. Fairly oddparents's top one. Yeah, yeah. So good. It's really cute. But anyways, sorry, not just to talk about Jamie. Jamie did comment. Okay. And said I've been listening for almost 10 years and I've converted my dad and I'm trying to convert my sister. Oh, you can do it, Jamie. We believe in you. We believe in you.
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Just turn it on in the background whenever you're around him.
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Yeah, exactly. All right. Hey, thanks for being here and for all the love, Jamie. And your back to back classics start right now.
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I always hear people say there's a lot of weirdos on the dating apps.
E
Yeah.
A
Yeah. Well, guess what? After today's call, you're going to think there's a lot of weirdos in real life too.
E
I think they already do that if they listen to the show.
D
That's for sure.
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I say that because of the last second surprise that one of our listeners had for the woman that he went out with. And if you asked a million people, not one would say, yeah, I think that's a good, well thought out idea. You should totally go through with that. You're going to hear it in your second date update. Coming up right after this second date update. Where's the worst place to take a Woman on a first date.
E
The worst.
A
Oh, my gosh. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Home of the second date update.
D
But I mean, like a garbage dump.
E
Are you gonna give us options? Because I have some ideas.
A
Yeah, I mean, crematorium comes to mind.
D
Oh, it's even worse than the garbage dump.
A
I was saying, especially if you talked about having barbecue already that night, so.
D
Oh, gosh, come on.
E
Smoky flavor is always good, right?
A
But there is. That might be worse than that.
E
But there's no way.
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Jeff.
A
Well, I was gonna say Chernobyl, but you know what? Let's. Let's talk to our listener, Rhett, because he thinks he may have taken his date someplace pretty regrettable.
E
I mean, that's all you have to do is come on our show, and you'll feel better by comparison.
A
Yeah, before we find out about this woman, just tell us the place that you took her.
F
Yeah, I took her to my ex's house.
A
Oh, God.
E
Why are you. What? I have so many.
A
Okay. Yeah, we got to back up.
E
Not even, like, the restaurant where my ex works.
F
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know the bad idea now.
A
Okay, well, it's good that you realize that, but let's go back and start from the beginning. Where did you meet this woman and what's her name?
E
And not your.
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Not your one.
F
You actually took out the girl that I took out. Her name's Christina. We met at a hiking club. Just a small group of people that get together and take hikes on the weekend.
A
Let me guess. You reached for the same cashew in the bag of trail mix and your eyes locked.
E
That's cute.
A
Like cashews, too. You want this raisin? Yeah.
E
How did you turn it from hiking to a date?
F
Yeah, we're both cat people, so that's kind of how we came together a little bit on that.
A
Okay.
C
Okay.
E
Bonded over cats, hiking and cat people. Time to talk on hikes. Yeah, that's true. So, I mean, you guys had a pretty good relationship then, probably before you actually moved into the romantic world, right?
F
Yeah, I mean, we had tons of talks, and, I mean, I showed her tons of pictures. My cat's name is Sorbet, so I set up a date at my house to help meet my cat.
E
Okay. I like how you said your house. That's good.
F
Yeah, we were going to make pizzas at my place. I got a fancy pizza oven.
E
Nice.
F
So we wanted to do that, introduce her to the cat. She looked real nice. We didn't burn anything. That's usually a good sign.
E
I mean, were you able to have. Because you guys had been friends already, were you able to have, like, some.
A
Flirty moments, like, come up behind her and knead the pizza? Like, show her. Like, grab her hands and show her. Show her how to toss it?
F
Yeah, we had, like, a little ghost moment with the pizza dough.
E
Do not say you did that.
F
I'm just kidding. Yeah, it was still flirty. A little flour getting everywhere, but nothing crazy.
E
Okay.
A
Okay.
E
All right. That's cute. I mean, it sounds like a setup to a great evening.
A
Yeah, it sounds like a great setup to go over to your ex's house, because how does that come into the picture?
F
So, I mean, I kept calling for the cat. The cat likes to hide when new people are there, so I figured they needed a little bit of time to get used to her and.
E
Right. I mean, cats notoriously don't come when you call them.
A
Yeah.
E
You know.
F
Right. And then I remembered that I actually had dropped the cat off at the cat moms that morning.
E
What?
A
Wait, you remembered you and your ex split custody of your cat?
F
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it was kind of a contentious part of the breakup there, but, I mean, we're good now.
E
How could you forget that? It was the whole date center. I mean, that makes you look so bad. You're a cat dad that doesn't remember where he left his cat.
F
I had a pretty busy day, and it slipped my mind. I mean, I had other things to worry about.
A
Okay, that is a lot to tackle. Both pepperoni and cheese. So I can understand. Your head was totally full. I still don't get how did you end up at your ex's house?
F
So right after we ate, I was pretty disappointed that she couldn't meet Sorbet.
A
Yeah, okay.
E
Yeah. But just chalk it up and you make a plan for the next time, right?
F
Yeah, I wish I would have done that. That's a good point. On our way home, I just figured I'd swing by my exes and introduce her to Sorbet.
E
No taking her home.
A
You brought Christina over to your ex's house? Oh, no.
F
It sounds really bad when you say it like that.
E
Is bad. You didn't warn either woman. So you're gonna show up unexpectedly with a date on your ex's door, and Christina doesn't even know that's where she's going.
F
Yeah, but usually my ex is pretty cool if I need to swing by and see the cat, you know, alone.
E
Probably alone.
A
Yeah. How did that go?
F
So, I mean, when we showed up, it was fine, but I could kind of tell that she wasn't really digging it. And X wasn't really happy that we showed up to see the cat.
E
Yeah.
A
Really?
E
Yeah. Shocking.
A
I can see why you guys broke up. She's not an accepting woman. Yeah.
E
That's it?
F
Yeah, it was a lot of silence and petting the cat on the couch, and it was real awkward. She was just staring at my date the whole time.
E
You were all sitting on the couch together. Why did I imagine this just at a doorstep? You know what I mean? Like, say hi to the cat, then everybody parts.
D
You're like a scene to a funny movie.
E
You're inside.
A
Okay, so you guys all spent the night at your ex's house. When you left the next morning, how did that go?
F
That didn't happen. Thank God.
A
Okay, good.
F
The whole time ended in, like, a real big fight.
A
Oh, my God.
E
A fight? With who? You and the ex or what?
A
You and the cat?
F
Everybody kind of ended up shouting. Yeah, Christina didn't like my ex was being rude. My. My ex didn't like that I brought a girl there. It was. It was a whole thing.
E
Okay, why are you wanting to call this girl again? Christina doesn't want to have anything to do with you.
F
Yeah, but your show says you help people get second dates.
D
Can we do the impossible miracle workers over here?
A
But.
E
Oh, my gosh. Can I just ask, when you drop Christina off at her door, what was the last thing she said to you?
F
She actually gave me the finger, but I don't think she meant it.
A
If it's a finger that I'm thinking of, then it could be a good thing.
D
Was the wrong finger trying to go.
E
For the ring Uber? She still took the ride and then took you off.
A
Wow.
F
She was emotional. Now that we've had some space, it's been about a week or so, so I figured we could give it another shot and you guys could help me.
D
Guys, at least this will be a great story, right?
A
I'm very eager to hear how Christina felt the experience went.
E
This woman's gonna be cussing.
C
We don't know.
A
We're gonna call her. We'll see how she's doing when we do your second date update. Right after this second date update, what went wrong on Rhett's first date? Gosh, little hard to say.
E
Who knows, Jeff?
A
Because there was pizza.
E
Oh, that's good.
A
There was cute cats and the one tiny mistake. And when I say tiny, I mean, like, minuscule. There was kind of a fight at his ex's house that involved him, his date, and his ex girlfriend, resulting at the end, in a certain finger being pointed at Rhett when he dropped Christina off at home.
D
It wasn't a proposal with the wedding ring.
E
It wasn't the index finger.
A
Other than that, though, a plus date. Really, Rhett, you would agree, right?
F
Yeah. Other than all of that, I guess it was fine.
D
Other than the date. The date was good.
G
Okay.
E
Okay, wait. I have a question. Have you had a chance to apologize to Christina?
F
Well, that's the biggest thing is I just haven't seen her in the hiking group at all. And it's not often you get to go from friends into dating, so I just. I didn't want to mess that up.
E
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
A
And I don't necessarily.
E
I'm sure.
A
I don't necessarily think you're the one who needs to apologize. It sounds like your ex girlfriend owes her more of an apology for not being cool about this.
E
No, he needs to apologize to both women.
D
Jeffrey, we don't know what started the fight.
E
You cannot take ex's house. You can't bring a date to your ex's house, especially unannounced.
A
I don't know.
E
What. Who does that?
A
I'm just. Clearly, Rhett is somebody that wants everybody to get along. Feels like you should be able to move past ex grievances. The ladies. I don't know why you guys are holding on to this like it's a big deal.
E
I hope your ex shows up at your house today, Jeff.
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I don't have one. Joke's on you.
C
All right.
A
But we don't know the whole story. We have a hunch of what went wrong. We need to get Christina's angle to really understand the full scope of this.
E
I can't wait to hear her story. And the thing is, is that you actually sound like a really nice guy that just made dumb choices.
F
Yeah, I'm just a really nice guy who made one dumb choice and I told you the whole story.
A
Okay.
E
Yeah, but her perspective is going to be interesting.
D
Yeah, perspective.
A
Well, let's find out what that is. I'm going to dial her right now. Hopefully she has nothing but good things to say about you or she doesn't.
E
Just cuss at us and hang up.
A
Okay, we'll see how this goes. I'm dialing her.
D
What if she flips us off as she answers the phone?
E
We won't be able to see it.
A
We'll be able to feel it, though. Here we go.
H
Hello?
A
Hey, is this Christina?
H
Yeah.
A
Hey, Christina.
D
Hi. Good morning.
A
Good morning. We've all been very eager to talk to you, we're a radio show called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning, and I don't even know where to begin, honestly.
E
Hi, Christina. How are you doing?
F
Fine.
H
What is this?
A
Yeah, yeah, this is a radio show, and we're doing a segment trying to help out one of our listeners that you went on a date with recently. His name is Rhett.
F
What?
E
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I mean, actually, that's a better response than I expected from you, to be honest. Yeah, I'm being serious because we heard.
A
About your guys's hangout. We won't rehash the whole story.
H
Wait a second. Rhett called you?
A
Yeah, yeah, he emailed us.
H
Why is he doing that?
A
Well, obviously, because he likes you.
D
Yeah, he wants a date.
E
Well, I mean, not just that. Like, you guys were friends in the hiking group, and then. And then you had one date, and he knows he screwed it up.
A
Yeah.
E
Can I just hear the story? Like, I want to hear from your perspective. Like, you show up to his ex's house. Did you know that's where you were going?
H
No. He was like, oh, I've got something to show you. I really want you to see that.
A
Oh, I've fallen for that line before. We all have. Jasmine. Yeah. Okay.
H
I mean, at first I just thought it was, like, his friend or something. I didn't realize it was his ex. And then we get into this argument. She called me a whore.
A
Oh, God. Oh, my God.
D
Wait, okay, wait.
E
How do you go from Petty the cat to that?
H
She had some major insecurity issues or something? Because she was like, well, do you know what he likes? Because I know what he likes.
E
Oh, God. Okay.
A
We did not know that part of the story.
H
Yeah. Like I said, she yelled at me and called me a.
E
Wait, what did Rhett do? Yeah, she was hustling.
H
Yeah, he was yelling back at her. It was just. It was so dramatic. And this is the first date.
C
Yeah.
E
Okay, I'm gonna tell you on the 32nd date. That would not be okay.
A
Look, I know that we all feel terrible about that. Rhett feels sorry for even making the decision to bring you over there.
E
Yeah, I mean, he honestly sounds like a nice guy that made a dumb choice. I don't know.
H
He lied to me, too.
E
Okay.
A
Just that, like, about bringing you over there to introduce you to his cat.
H
No, before that. So I knew him from hiking. Like, we hiked together with, like, a group, and we were talking about our cats, and he told me that sorbet is 5 and my cat is 5 2. So I was like, oh, that's cool. They're the same age. But then his ex told me that sorbet is nine.
E
Oh, cat.
D
You're kind of lying about the cat age.
E
I don't know how old my cat is. I think we should probably just come straight. The argument with the X and the name calling.
H
What? That's almost a five year difference. That's crazy.
A
Okay, that was worse to you than the argument that broke out between the three?
H
Honestly, I think that he lied about his cat's age on purpose. I think he was trying to say that it was the same age as my cat so that they would get along.
A
Okay. I mean, we do hear a lot of people lying about their age on dating apps to impress somebody. Not usually lying about their cat's age to impress each other, but.
H
Well, yeah, but, like, that's important to me.
F
I have something to say here.
H
Oh, of course.
A
Okay.
D
You shut your mouth, you liar.
A
I really hope you would, because we need to tell you, Christina, that Rhett's been on the other line listening to this call, wanting to clearly speak and hopefully apologize.
F
Well, yeah, I mean, I'm gonna apologize for the fight, but not. Not for my cat being a different age. I mean, those are just details.
H
Well, you might not think that's important, but I do. I don't have kids. I'm not planning on having kids anytime soon. My cat is my world. Like, I don't want my cat to be the little second sidekick cat because you have this older, leader, mean cat.
F
Well, maybe if your cat was more mature, it'd be okay hanging out with my older cat.
G
Okay.
H
My cat is plenty mature.
E
Oh, okay.
D
It sounds like it wears a top hat.
A
I don't know what we're fighting about.
E
Really? I don't get it either. Yeah, I thought we'd really be concentrating on the name calling the ex's house here.
H
Well, that wasn't cool. But neither is lying about the age of your cat. Why would you do that? Why would you lie about anything like that?
A
That is tr.
E
The ex is lying.
F
Yeah, I mean, my ex wasn't lying about that. He is nine. And then if. If that's the only thing standing in the way of this, I mean, we can always go get a five year old cat.
E
Okay, There are a lot of cats that need adopted, especially the older ones.
A
I like the problem solving. That's a positive.
H
So my cat's a third wheel now. That's great.
E
What? I am so confused at what you're upset at.
A
Yeah, you find very interesting things important. For your dating life.
H
You gotta think of it from my perspective. If this does work out and we're together now, we've got two full time cats and one part time cat that we're shuffling back and forth between his ex who thinks I'm a What?
E
Oh, between the ex who thinks you're. Yeah, I mean, I could see that part. But I mean, it's nine. It's not like you're gonna have to do it for many years. I'm just saying, times like I take.
F
Offense to that because my cat may be nine, but she looks seven at worst.
D
Plus, we don't know how many lives it has left.
A
Yeah.
E
Left. But we are really stuck on this.
A
I know. She's very upset that she got cat catfished. Yeah, that's the big issue.
D
I think it's got a fish cat in.
E
I think it's just catfish. It is.
H
You did cat catfish me.
E
Okay.
A
Okay.
E
We're going with the double catfish.
A
You're very sorry, right? Tell her how sorry you are for doing that.
H
Yeah, yeah.
F
I mean, I'm. I'm very sorry for telling you the wrong age of my cat. And I mean, going forward, I. I swear I won't lie to you about something like that.
E
Something like that. Why would you add that? Why wouldn't you just say, I swear I would not lie to you about anything.
D
About anything?
F
Well, because that's like super important. I want her to know how important it is that I'm taking her. Her cat age. Very importantly, I won't lie at all.
A
Okay.
E
I mean, honestly, Christina, he is taking it into account and I think a lot of people would not be so patient.
A
Brooke is basically saying, team Rhett. Team Rhett. And so we would like to offer to send you out on another date with him. And we would pay for it.
H
I don't know.
A
Two cats. Three cats, one cat. No cat. Whatever. However many cats you want or don't want on it.
D
You can cat cafe.
E
Yeah. And find a five year old one.
D
Perfect.
H
Well, I doubt he wants to go out again with a.
E
Hate that word, Rhett.
A
What do you think?
F
I mean, as long as the price is right, I guess we could do it.
E
Okay. I know it's a joke.
F
Yeah, I'm kidding.
E
Obviously.
F
I would. I would love to have a second try at this point.
H
Yes.
A
He went through all this effort to make this happen and we're running out of time here. So what do you say, Christina? One more date with Rhett? I need a yes or a no.
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Fine.
H
Yeah, whatever.
A
It's a romantic.
E
Fine. Yes.
D
Rhett, are you down? She just said fine.
E
I'm sorry.
F
Yeah, she's still emotional. She'll get over it. I'm okay with fine.
E
I'm sorry, but are we miracle workers? Because that is insane.
A
Yes. We should take all the credit for this. You're right.
E
Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
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Is that guy with the binoculars watching us?
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Very unwritten by Liberty mutual insurance company and affiliates. Excludes Massachusetts. You know what really makes me happy? Hearing someone regrettably agree to go out on a date again.
E
Fine, Jeff, Fine.
A
They're gonna look back and listen to this on their wedding day right before Christina turns to the pastor and is like, oh, fine, I do.
E
Yeah, well, pretty sure the ex is gonna show up to that wedding.
A
Yeah.
D
I just hope the cats show up.
E
I don't think anybody's showing up. I think he's gonna host it at their house. At the ex's house.
H
Yeah.
A
Yeah. It's a good reminder that everybody, everybody values different things in their relationships. And for Christina, she values honesty about your cat's real age. That's number one on the relationship.
D
I mean, maybe you could have still been dating the ex. She's like, I don't care about that around.
E
Number five is ex name calling.
D
There you go.
A
Yes, it still mattered to her, just not quite as high.
D
Yeah, but everyone's got different priorities and.
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We know that now. So whatever is important to you, we will call that person who's not calling you back. Email the show so we can help and go check out all of our Second Day podcasts, wherever you get yours at. Brooke and Jeffrey.
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Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
A
In today's call, one of our listeners is a barista and says she did something that normally she would never do while working on the job. And wouldn't you know it, a cute guy was involved.
E
Yeah.
A
So she took a risk. Risk in the name of love. And now, well, she's not getting a call back. I'm wondering when you hear this, all the baristas who are listening, would you ever do this with a customer that you found attractive? Text into 78592. You're gonna hear what happened in your brand new second date update. Right after this second date update, you never know when or where you're gonna meet the love of your life.
E
Life a Jeffrey. That's so nice.
D
That's what they say.
A
Like, years ago, Brooke met a hunky traveling salesman named Roy. She told us this story many, many times on the show. But just to recap for anybody who doesn't know, after one steamy night involving a diner at the edge of town, passion took over. And to this day, her husband firmly believes that those children are really his.
E
Oh, my God, Jeffrey, that is too far.
A
It's a story that's as romantic as it is factually correct.
E
That is not true at all. I have only fallen truly, madly, deeply in love with one man, and that is my husband.
D
I thought you named one of the kids middle names was Roy, after the real father, too.
A
Okay, so you love your husband, but you still married Roy.
D
No, no, I don't think she's saying any of that.
E
No, she's full blown denying just Michael.
A
Your love life confuses the hell out of me, Brooke. It is hard to keep up with. All I'm trying to say is that love can strike anywhere at any time.
E
I think that's great.
A
Even when you work as a barista at a coffee shop like our listener Jacqueline does. So let's talk to her. Jacqueline, how you doing?
H
I'm doing okay. How are you guys doing?
E
Good. You sound a little, like, sad or something. Are you all right?
H
Yeah, I just. I need your help, basically.
G
All right.
A
I thought maybe Brook's love story brought you to tears with Roy the salesman, but I don't know, maybe you got something else going on. Tell us about it.
H
Well, like you said, I'm a barista at a coffee shop, and a couple weeks ago it was. Yeah, it's chill. I like it.
A
That's exactly the attitude that Alexis had when she used to work there.
C
She's like.
A
Yeah, it's okay.
E
It's fine.
H
Free coffee. Well, a couple weeks ago, it was kind of a slow time of day, and I ended up meeting this really nice customer, and he ordered a latte, and he stopped and complimented me on my foam art. With your what?
E
Art.
H
Foam art.
D
Oh, like a latte art?
A
Yeah, you can draw little pictures.
E
Did you put your phone number in the foam on the top?
G
Yeah.
A
That would have been clutch.
D
It actually looks hard to do that.
H
It is hard, because I actually didn't do any foam art on the.
A
Oh, you didn't.
D
Wait, what?
A
I thought you did.
E
Why would he say that?
H
I don't know. Maybe he was just trying to talk to me. But he goes, oh, my God. Like, is that a dog's face? It looks just like my dog Kevin.
D
Yeah, he's totally just like. Like, joking with you to get your. Talk to you.
H
Oh, yeah. I mean, I think he knew I wasn't trying to do latte art because he said I was the Picasso of latte art.
E
The Picasso? Well, it's abstract.
A
That's not necessarily pretty art. It is just very cool.
E
His cubism face. Sure.
A
Did you get his name, by the way?
H
His name is Kenny. The dog's name is Kevin, after Kevin from the office.
D
I bet it loves chili.
E
So, I mean, how did you parlay that into anything?
H
Well, so he was being, like, really friendly and sweet, and. I mean, I know this is kind of unprofessional, but since we didn't have a lot of customers coming in, he asked if I would come sit with him.
E
Oh.
H
For a little bit. Really?
A
Yeah.
E
That is, like. I feel like that's bold. I don't know that I could ever think of a scenario where I would ask any wait staff to come sit with me.
A
Although you did go to a Starbucks and try to ask out the baristas recently, and they all said no.
E
It's a good point.
D
It could be a good gauge, though, because if. If it's a dead, empty coffee shop and she's like, oh, no, I can't. He would be like, oh, okay, I. I can.
E
She's working.
D
I mean, so here's my point. So she can say, oh, sorry, I'm working. She has an excuse. But if she says, yes, I'll sit with you. It's a huge sign that she's at work.
A
The ball's in your court at this point, Jacqueline. What'd you do?
H
I said, yeah, sure. Let me just, you know, let my manager know. I'm gonna take my Break. And.
D
Oh, you took a break.
E
Oh, you even did it, like, on the up and up.
D
Yeah, you should have done it on Company.
A
Was it worth it? How did it go?
H
It was good. Like, we were laughing, getting to know each other, and he. He asked if I was single. And normally whenever a customer asked me that, I lie and I'm like, I'm married, basically.
A
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
H
But I was honest. I told him, yeah, I'm single. So he asked me for my number. And after he left, like, even my co workers were like, oh, my God, that was really cute.
E
Oh. Oh, my God. Plus, you get an immediate gauge. No, you get like, I would love if two of my girlfriends could always go on every date that I went on.
A
Yeah.
E
To like, tell me whether or not it went well.
A
Alexis, if Brooks says, oh, my God, that guy and you are really cute together, what are you thinking?
E
I mean, it's just. Can I get someone else's opinion?
A
But Jacqueline, this is a co worker whose opinion you actually respect.
E
Oh, Jeffrey.
A
I'm just saying. Yeah. Totally different situation.
E
So wait, what's happened since?
H
Well, we texted back and forth for a little bit, but, like, our last text exchange we had was a few days ago, and it was kind of weird, but he messages me.
E
Yeah.
H
So what's up with Glenn? Does he still have his motorcycle? Who?
E
What?
H
I don't know who. I don't know a Glenn or anyone with a motorcycle. I wrote, haha. What are you talking about? And he said, oh, come on, stop playing coy with, like, a smirky face emoji. So I wrote, is this a game? And he never wrote back. And that's, like, kind of awkward. And I don't really sounds like he.
D
Was actually mad about.
A
I'm turned on by that conversation. I don't know about the rest of you.
E
I'm with Alexis. If you put a smirky face, that means that you're not upset. Yeah, you do a smirky face. Yeah.
A
Were you guys talking about astronaut John Glenn at any point during your conversation in the coffee shop? Pretty sure he has a motorcycle.
E
Is he still alive?
A
I'm trying to solve the mystery here who Glenn is. So we have no idea. Clearly, Jacqueline doesn't know. We should probably just call him and try and see if he picks up and can give us some answers.
E
Yes, I want to know who Glenn is.
A
We will reach out to this guy Kenny and maybe to his dog Kevin, and try and get you a second date update right after this. Okay?
H
Okay.
A
All right, hold on. Second date update Today we Have a mystery we need to solve.
E
Ooh, I love a good mystery.
A
The mystery of Glenn and the motorcycle.
E
Seriously, who is that?
D
Sounds like a children's book.
A
I've been thinking about this off the air, and I have a theory. Okay, because who else is notorious for driving a motorcycle around? Roy, the traveling salesman. Glenn must be his son cruising the highway ways, stealing women's hearts at night just like his daddy did back in the day.
E
Are you talking.
D
Those boys are notorious.
A
Yes. I guess. I guess we've never done a double date. Second date.
E
Stop it, J.
A
This is interesting.
E
There's no Roy.
A
Jacqueline, would you be up for doing a twofer along with Brooke and Roy if we can get Kenny to agree to this?
H
I'm not sure about that.
D
Listen, you're a fan of our show.
E
You could turn it down. I am also turning it down, and I'm also kind of pissed. I get old guy Roy and you get the young one.
A
I'm sure you can. Guys can work out an arrangement where you could swap halfway through the night. Anything goes with Roy.
E
Okay, let's concentrate on. Wait, what's the guy's name now? Chris?
A
No, it's Kenny. We gotta focus on Kenny with his dog Kevin. Kenny is the one that she met when he walked into her coffee shop the other day, made a comment about her foam art. So let's try and get that connection back.
E
Because after that text about that weird text he sent about Glenn. This has to be just some. Some misunderstanding that's happening.
D
Yeah, I mean, it's so random.
H
Maybe he accidentally texted the wrong person.
D
Yeah, he could have been texting.
A
Yeah, and maybe he's embarrassed because he feels like he looked like an idiot. So, yeah, let's give him a call and see what he has to say. Here we go.
G
Hello?
A
Hey, we're looking for Kenny.
G
This is Kenny.
A
Hey, Kenny. Nice to meet you. We're a radio show called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning.
E
Hi.
G
What?
E
Yeah.
G
Who is this?
E
Oh, man, it's your favorite radio show.
A
You're on the radio right now.
G
Why are you calling me?
E
It's a great question.
A
Yeah, because we're doing something called a second date update where we try to help our listeners work on their love connections with people that they meet out in the world. And you were somebody's love connection recently. Hopefully.
E
Yeah. Well, it sounds like you had a nice connection.
A
Anyway, it's a girl named Jacqueline.
G
Okay.
A
Remember you went to a coffee shop and you kind of had a nice little conversation with a barista there named Jacqueline, and You made a comment about, like, her foam art.
G
Yeah, maybe.
E
You said it looked like your dog Kevin.
G
Yeah, I do that.
E
I do.
G
I do that a lot, actually. Oh, no, wait.
A
What? That's a line.
E
Why?
G
Oh, bro, I've done that a few times.
D
I mean, it is really funny, and.
E
You'Re unique, but even if you've done it a few times, like.
G
Yeah, well, it. It's a few times, but, you know, it's been more like a few times this week.
E
What?
G
Actually, how often do you do this?
E
Are you drink that much coffee? And why, like, why even. Why even ask her to sit with you? Why even ask if she's single if you.
A
Well, he can't even remember who this is.
E
I know, but. But, like, if he's doing this all the time, what's your intention? It's obviously not to, like, have a relationship.
G
Well, I'm actually really involved with a social media challenge right now.
H
What?
A
Social media might be part of it. What are you talking about?
E
Wait, Jacqueline was part of it. It.
G
Jacqueline was a part of that, even though, you know, I don't know exactly who she was.
D
I'm sorry to laugh.
A
Okay, what. Tell us what. What is this challenge that you're doing?
G
It's a. It's a challenge to help me be more social and improve my social skills with other people. Okay.
E
Gotta say, so far, talking dude, I'm not sure it's working.
D
Yeah, I mean, come off almost like a player, bro, not like a social.
A
I'm. And what is the challenge? I don't understand.
G
Well, I have to meet and engage with 10 new people every day that I don't know.
E
Oh, okay.
A
Okay.
G
In the video, it says that baristas are friendly and easy to talk to. So I tend to hit a lot of coffee.
A
So you're going to a lot of coffee places, just striking up conversations, hoping to improve your own social skills? You're not trying to pick up women necessarily, just be a better talker.
G
Yes.
E
So she read that totally wrong. You know, that. I mean, like, you guys were too smooth. Yeah, but what did you think when she was texting you? And who the hell is Glenn?
A
Yeah, she said. She said there was a message that you sent about someone named Glenn in his motorcycle. Do you know what that is?
G
Yeah, that was actually meant for someone else if I did that.
D
Yeah, see, we thought that we didn't know.
G
I was talking to a lot of people at once, so confused.
E
Are.
A
Are you single? Can I ask that?
G
Yes, I'm single.
E
Are you. Wait, are you Interested in dating any of these strangers that you talk to?
A
Or are you just looking for, like, a million new friends? Because Brooke bought all of her friends on Instagram, so that'd probably be an easier route to go out. A recommendation there for you.
E
I know someone who did, but that was not the.
A
What's the goal here? Love or just friendship?
G
I can't say I'm not interested in love. I am interested in love, but I'm really engaged in this challenge that I'm doing, and I want to see it all the way through, and I want to finish it. And it's taken up so much of my time that I haven't really had any to go out on dates at all.
D
Oh, my God.
C
What a.
D
What a misunderstanding.
A
Okay, how long till you finish it? How much longer?
G
I got a little over three weeks left.
E
What?
D
That's a lot for you, man. Hopefully it is improving.
E
If you could, like, meet a waiter at the. The same time you're on a date with somebody, maybe. No. I don't know. Try to be, you know, like two birds, one stone.
A
Brook wants you to quit on your challenge, but I have a better idea. Let's try and keep improving on your social skills by reconnecting you with that barista, Jacqueline. Cuz she's on the other line right now wanting to talk to you.
G
Oh, wow. Okay.
A
Yeah, sorry. That's how the segment works.
D
Yeah.
A
Jacqueline, you that there?
H
Yeah, I'm here.
E
Jacqueline, how are you feeling?
H
I'm okay.
E
A little disappointed.
G
I'm super sorry that we got a misunderstanding going. I mean, I didn't mean to let it get to that point. Like I said, I'm just trying to work on my social skills and complete this challenge.
H
Yeah.
G
Just hearing your voice, though, and thinking about is taking me back some. Are you the lovely girl I talked to with the blonde curly hair?
H
I'm a. I'm a brunette.
D
It's like a light blonde.
A
Okay.
D
Shade of brunette.
A
If it makes you feel any better, Jacqueline, Brooke has worked with people here for years and can't remember their names or who they are. Yeah.
D
By the way, I'm Jose.
E
Honestly, if I saw Jeffrey and.
A
Exactly.
E
Grocery store. I just walk right past it. No idea.
A
I'd walk back to myself if I could. I'm not a big fan.
D
Jeff would be hiding.
H
But really, I have to ask a question really quick, though.
A
Okay, go ahead.
H
Do you really have a dog that's named Kevin? Like Kevin from the office?
E
Oh, yeah.
D
Oh, please say it's real.
G
Yeah, I do actually have A dog named.
A
Okay, there was a long pause there before.
D
I don't believe him.
E
Actually have the dog hold up a newspaper.
A
Okay, need a picture.
E
Wait a minute.
A
Maybe it's just his social skills kicking in.
G
That might have been part of it.
A
But look, the whole reason that we do these calls is to try and set you up on another date. So we would offer to send you guys out one more time to another restaurant or maybe another coffee shop, and we would pay for it.
E
I mean, I think the thing is that you really need to think about here. I keep wanting to call you Kevin. Kenny, is. Is. Is the challenge worth worked like you. You've made real connections. You have someone who wants to go further. I would say that's winning the challenge that you wouldn't even need to do the three weeks because. Because you've already improved so much. Like she wants to be hang out with you.
G
I mean, I'm glad it's. Y' all think it's improving my skills and everything, but. Yeah, I really want to see it through to the end, you know, I'm not a quitter.
D
That doesn't mean you have to say no to the date, though.
A
Yeah. We'll still send you out with Jacqueline, though, after your challenge is done. Yeah, in three weeks.
E
Weeks.
G
Well, that might be really nice.
A
Okay, we got it. Might be nice.
E
Is that. Are you willing to wait for that, Jacqueline?
H
I mean, I still feel like the conversations we've had have been good. And even if it just ends up being a friend thing, I. I'd still like to go out in a couple weeks if you want to.
D
Oh, my God. She just wants to be around you no matter what the vibe is, bro.
A
All right, well, I'm calling it. This is a successful second date update. We're gonna reconnect you, too. Okay.
H
Okay.
G
Okay. That sou. Awesome.
A
Awesome.
D
Sweet people. I like this.
A
And by the way, Katie, I just need to ask, do you possibly have a father named Roy?
E
Get up, Kenny.
A
If you do, tell him to call in for a double date update. He'll know what it means.
E
Please do the long pause and say, hey, Brooke and Jeffrey, in the morning.
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E
I don't know if it's love, but. Or friendship or something. But yes. Yeah, I agree with your sentiment. Like, I think this was so cute.
A
Yeah. You know, he was just trying to push himself out of his normal comfort zone.
E
And he did a great job. Yeah. I mean, he has multiple people texting him. I'm guessing she's not the only one that thinks that he's flirting with her.
A
Yeah.
E
You know what I mean?
D
It's funny because he's not trying, which makes girls like guys when they don't try to. But he's literally not trying. He just wants to talk to somebody and move on.
E
Yeah.
D
So vicariously. Girls are like, hello.
E
Yeah.
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H
Oh, my God.
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It worked for Kenny.
E
Yeah, I know. I don't think that that's. What Kenny. Instructor's hot.
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Aww.
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Air Date: November 22, 2025
Podcast: Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Host: iHeartPodcasts
This episode features two classic “Second Date Update” segments, where Brooke and Jeffrey help listeners get to the bottom of why a seemingly promising date fizzled out. In “Date Night Detour,” the team confronts the chaos caused by a date’s ill-conceived surprise visit to his ex's home, while “Barista Foam Job” untangles the confusion between a flirty customer and a hopeful barista. With signature playful banter, the hosts expose awkward truths, miscommunications, and unlikely second chances.
Listener: Rhett
Date: Christina
Uncomfortable Destinations for Dates:
The hosts joke about terrible date spots (garbage dump, crematorium, Chernobyl) before revealing Rhett’s real-life contender: his ex’s home.
(05:00) A: "Where’s the worst place to take a woman on a first date?"
(05:46) F: "Yeah, I took her to my ex’s house."
(05:50) A & E: "Oh god. Why are you—What?!"
Bonding over Cats:
The early rapport between Rhett and Christina revolved around their pets.
(06:49) F: "We’re both cat people, so that’s kind of how we came together… My cat’s name is Sorbet."
Setting the Scene Gone Wrong:
After forgetting where his cat is, Rhett tries to salvage the night with a spontaneous visit to his ex’s.
(07:58) E: "Cats notoriously don’t come when you call them!"
(08:08) E & A: "You and your ex split custody of your cat?"
Awkward Encounter:
Christina, Rhett, and his ex end up sitting in silence, then yelling ensues.
(09:10) F: "It sounds really bad when you say it like that…"
(10:15) F: "The whole time ended in like a real big fight… Everybody kind of ended up shouting."
Aftermath:
Christina is understandably upset—her parting gesture is flipping Rhett off.
(10:52) F: "She actually gave me the finger, but I don’t think she meant it."
(11:01) D: "Was it the wrong finger trying to go for the ring, Uber?"
Surprise & Confrontation:
Christina had no warning—Rhett tells her “There’s something to show you,” but she ends up in his ex’s living room.
(15:10) H: "At first I just thought it was his friend…then his ex called me a whore."
(15:25) H: "She had some major insecurity issues…she was like, ‘Do you know what he likes? Cuz I know what he likes.’"
Cat Age Scandal:
Christina says Rhett lied about Sorbet’s age, supposedly to make their cats seem more compatible.
(16:11) H: "He told me Sorbet is five…then his ex told me Sorbet is nine."
(16:40) H: "That’s almost a five-year difference! That’s crazy."
Trust Broken—Over Pets:
Christina values honesty, even about pets.
(17:00) H: "That’s important to me. My cat is my world…"
Rhett Attempts an Apology:
(19:22) F: "I’m very sorry for telling you the wrong age of my cat…going forward, I swear I won’t lie to you about something like that."
(19:31) E: "Why add ‘something like that’? Why wouldn’t you just say, I swear I would not lie to you about anything?"
Memorable Moment:
Brooke and Jeffrey note, “Fine, Jeff, fine” could one day be Christina’s wedding vow, given how begrudgingly she agrees to a second try.
Listener: Jacqueline (barista)
Date: Kenny (customer with a dog named Kevin)
Unusual Pickup Lines:
Kenny repeatedly claims to spot his dog in the foam art, even though Jacqueline didn’t actually create any.
(26:07) H: "He goes, ‘Oh, my God, is that a dog’s face? It looks just like my dog Kevin.’"
(26:20) H: "He said I was the Picasso of latte art…"
Workplace Romance:
Jacqueline admits she normally shuts customers down, but Kenny felt different.
(27:01) H: "He asked if I would come sit with him…so I let my manager know and took my break."
(28:06) H: "Normally whenever a customer asks me if I’m single, I lie and say I’m married…but I was honest."
Confusing Text Exchange:
Kenny asks, "What’s up with Glenn and his motorcycle?" out of nowhere, leading Jacqueline to think it was either a joke or a text meant for someone else, but he never clarifies and doesn’t call back.
Social Skills Challenge:
Kenny reveals he’s not intentionally flirting—he’s doing a “social skills” challenge, requiring him to interact with 10 strangers a day, often targeting baristas for practice.
(33:00) G: "I do that a lot, actually…more like a few times this week."
(34:03) G: "It’s a challenge to help me be more social and improve my social skills… Have to engage with 10 new people every day…Baristas are easy to talk to, so I hit a lot of coffee shops."
Wrong Text to Wrong Person:
Kenny confirms the “Glenn” message was meant for someone else and apologizes for the mishap.
On Awkward Misunderstandings:
(36:04) D: "What a misunderstanding…"
(36:22) A: "Let’s try and keep improving your social skills by reconnecting you with that barista, Jacqueline."
On Missed Connections:
Jacqueline is a good sport and expresses openness to a connection, even as friends.
(39:14) H: "Even if it just ends up being a friend thing, I’d still like to go out in a couple weeks if you want to."
On ‘Dog Kevin’ Mystery:
(37:52) H: "Do you really have a dog that’s named Kevin, like Kevin from The Office?"
(37:58) G: (Long pause) "Yeah, I do actually have a dog named Kevin…"
Memorable Moment:
The hosts joke about Kenny’s “Picasso of latte art” line, and Kenny’s challenge inadvertently makes him seem more desirable due to the effortlessness of his attempts.
Although Kenny isn’t ready to date until his challenge concludes, both agree to reconnect in a few weeks for potential friendship (or more). (39:07) G: "That might be really nice." (39:14) H: "Even if it just ends up being a friend thing, I’d still like to go out in a couple weeks."
The segment ends with the hosts reflecting on the importance of pushing out of your comfort zone and how sometimes trying new things—awkward as they may be—can create unexpected opportunities for connection.
Brooke and Jeffrey’s tone is playful, irreverent, and often supportive—even as they roast their callers for wildly misguided decisions. The team reminds listeners that relationship priorities are deeply personal, and sometimes the most embarrassing missteps make the best stories (or even lead to second chances). The episode is a blend of hilarious mishaps, endearing vulnerability, and the earnest (if clumsy) pursuit of love.
For more Second Date Update episodes, visit the Brooke and Jeffrey show on iHeartRadio, Apple, or Spotify.