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Jeffrey
Well, this is technical director Ashton. It looks like I'm the only one that showed up on a classic Saturday second day update. So I'm going to leave my Venmo code at the bottom. If anyone wants to send me some extra cash, that would be awesome. How do you go from zero matches, no prospects on your dating profile, to suddenly having your inbox full of available singles all wanting to meet you?
Alexis
You just use Alexis's picture instead?
Brooke
Yes.
Jeffrey
Okay.
Alexis
That was nice of you.
Jeffrey
I'm not talking about like catfishing or lying about yourself to trick people because one of our listeners says he adjusted one little thing on his app that instantly changed the game for him. Immediately he got way more swipes and he wishes that he'd done this years ago. You're going to hear how he pulled it off coming up in your second date update. Next second date update. Dating older women, it's like adult braces. Cuz you're going to get to a point in your life where it's like, gosh, I probably need it. I know it's good for me. But it's also gonna be weird because everyone around me is gonna see me. They're gonna be judging me for it. I'm gonna try and keep it a secret, you know, keep my mouth shut, literally. That is a younger man's perspective on dating above his age. But one of our.
Brooke
Because you're not there yet.
Jeffrey
But one day, one day I might get to the point where I need adult braces and I need an older woman. But one of our listeners says he's brave enough to admit it right here on our show. And even braver to admit that she's not calling him back after their date. Okay, so let's talk to him. Nate, welcome to the show.
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
Hi. Thanks for having me.
Brooke
You're very brave.
Alexis
Why is this brave? Like, why is like, that is such a weird brave for her to take on a young guy and have to deal with them. Such a weird thing to say. Like, how much older is this woman? I mean, I guess if she's 30 years older, then that's a. Yeah, that's a thing to tackle.
Jeffrey
Which retirement home did you meet this gal?
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
I didn't meet her at a retirement home.
Jeffrey
Oh.
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
I met her on a dating app.
Alexis
Okay. Okay. And what's your guys's age gap, do you know?
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
Well, I'm 32 and she's 49.
Alexis
Okay. Oh, it's not like you're a 22 year old. That would be weird.
Jeffrey
Yeah.
Alexis
Yeah. Only because, like, what do you want to do with the 20? I don't know. 22 year olds are kind of.
Jeffrey
We just did the math. It's 17 years difference between the two of them.
Alexis
Okay.
Jeffrey
Is that right?
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
Yeah, that sounds about right.
Alexis
Okay, that's a big gap, but it's not undoable.
Brooke
Noticeable.
Jeffrey
What's her name, by the way?
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
Her name is Lori.
Jeffrey
Okay. And how did you find Lori online?
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
Well, I decided after a long time of just using dating apps, like with people around my own age, that I needed to branch out.
Alexis
Okay.
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
I was getting kind of bored.
Alexis
So what do you think, like an older woman has to offer you instead of a woman in her 30s?
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
Well, obviously experience, wisdom, but frankly, I just wanted something new.
Alexis
Okay.
Jeffrey
Okay.
Alexis
And there's probably not much pressure for like babies in marriage because that's. I could be her daughter. That's done.
Jeffrey
Yeah. Actually, Nate might be going out with your mom.
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
I mean, your mom, Lori.
Alexis
No, my mom is not Lori.
Jeffrey
Thank God. Yeah, maybe online she is. Okay, so you went out with Lori. Where'd you guys go?
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
You know, we went out to eat. We had a nice time.
Jeffrey
Oh, really?
Alexis
Like what you guys connect over?
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
We just sort of talked. She actually invited me out and picked the place. She's much more successful than I am. She was like, I'm gonna treat you.
Alexis
Yeah, yeah.
Brooke
The older people tend to be. For some reason, they come to the territory, they just have more money.
Jeffrey
You didn't feel emasculated at all?
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
No, I mean, I'm a pretty progressive guy, you know, I'm not. I don't need to be quote, unquote, the man all the time.
Alexis
Yeah, for sure. No one should.
Jeffrey
When you say that she was successful, what do you mean by that? Like, you talking about her job sort of deal?
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
Yeah, her job. She's a businesswoman. She's like. Is one of like a higher up some company. Like, she's like a boss.
Alexis
Dude, that's awesome.
Jeffrey
Good for her.
Alexis
I like that.
Jeffrey
What do you do? Do you mind us asking?
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
I am a valet.
Alexis
Okay.
Brooke
She's a boss, you're an employee.
Alexis
Did you notice like at any point in your guys conversation, like, oh God, we do come from two different generations.
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
You know, I initially I was worried about that, but it ended up working. Okay. We talked about. About video games a lot. Like, we talked about Rocket League, which is crazy. Like, I can't believe that she even knows Rocket League at all.
Alexis
Was there anything like, sexy about that?
Jeffrey
Yeah, she plays video games, Brooke. That is sexy to a man, you know, but it.
Alexis
I mean, to her, it probably feels like she's talking to a teenage boy. I don't know.
Jeffrey
She brought it up.
Alexis
I. Did she though or did he bring it up? She just knew what it was.
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
Yeah, we were just talking about what we were into and I said, lately I've been playing a lot of Rocket League. And she was like, I know Rocket League.
Alexis
She didn't just say, oh, it's a game with the Rockets.
Brooke
It's actually a car game.
Alexis
Or like, I buy it for my sons.
Jeffrey
Well, Nate, tell us, was there any like, weird stuff that happened during the date?
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
I mean, like the waiter thought it was weird.
Jeffrey
The waiter was.
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
Kept looking at me like, really, man?
Alexis
Okay, that's kind of rude.
Brooke
I'm imagining nature's like drawing with crayons.
Jeffrey
What are you doing? What are you doing? So how did the night end?
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
Well, I invited her back to my place, which she declined, which is in her right to do.
Alexis
Okay.
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
And then she gave me a kiss on the forehead.
Alexis
Oh, oh, oh. I told you. If she thinks of him as like a.
Brooke
It's like cute, funny things.
Jeffrey
I mean, back in the day used to take things a lot slower romantically. So you started with a forehead kiss and then you slowly. There was way more bases back in the day.
Brooke
I bet you kissed the server on the forehead too.
Alexis
Wasn't born in the 1950s or 40s or something. Like, have you seen what Alexis's mom is wearing out on it? She's not doing forehead kisses?
Jeffrey
No, don't wear much. Let's be real. You left the date, she went home. What's happened since then?
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
Well, I've been trying to get a second date, but she's like really busy. I mean, she's got this crazy job and everything. But she did try to see if I was free this coming Tuesday at 2pm It's a weird time.
Alexis
Did you say yes or no to Tuesday at 2?
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
I said no.
Lori/Dana (Call-in Guests)
Cause I'm at work.
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
I mean, I'd love to meet her at 2pm on a Tuesday, but I'M parked in cars, man.
Brooke
Yeah, makes sense.
Alexis
So. And then she's just been elusive when you've asked her out.
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
Yeah.
Alexis
Okay.
Jeffrey
This is definitely a new one for us.
Alexis
You don't think it's just that she's not interested because he's a younger guy that spent the day talking about video games and he, you know, doesn't have an equal job to her.
Jeffrey
I don't see a single wrong thing what you said there.
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
So she wouldn't meet me at all though the thing I think if she didn't like me, she pursued him on.
Jeffrey
The app like she swiped right on him just the same way she swiped right on her or whatever.
Alexis
You have ideas and then they turn out to be not as great as you thought. Any. I don't know.
Jeffrey
Okay, I don't appreciate attitude coming into the second part. We're going to call this lovely, mature woman who is totally into you 100.
Alexis
Not going to call her that when we talk to her.
Jeffrey
Okay, whatever the right thing to call her is, we're going to figure that that out and then we'll try and get you a second date update right after this.
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
Thank you.
Jeffrey
All right, hold on. Second date update. We have a guy on the line named Nate who just revealed to us he went on a date with a woman 17 years his senior.
Alexis
Yeah, that's a big gap.
Jeffrey
It's pretty, it's decent size. They're not connecting afterwards. And I know the girls in the room think it's cuz he was too immature and she's not going to want to talk to him about video games and Rocket League and that was a turn off.
Alexis
I mean that happens with no age gap, so. Yeah, well, excuse me, let me remind.
Jeffrey
You, the man to my left, Jose Bologna, plays video games all the time and he's the most mature person I know. Hit him up at hilarious Jose on Twitch and find out what a catch he truly is.
Brooke
I will say for the record, I am the most single person I know.
Jeffrey
That's my choice.
Brooke
Maybe that's not healthy.
Jeffrey
No woman can hold him down. That's what it is.
Alexis
But I also think that's it.
Jeffrey
I think our listener Nate brought up a good point too. The ladies think she regrets going out with a younger guy after the date, but she's the one who is asking him to hang out again.
Alexis
Not a younger guy, just him. And ask him at a time. No one's ever free.
Jeffrey
Yeah, well, Tuesday, just the point that she's reaching out, still engaging him, asking to see him again. I Mean. That must mean. Means something, right?
Brooke
Right?
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
Yeah. She must like me to some degree. But she hasn't answered my last four texts.
Alexis
She's busy, okay? She's busy. She's a career woman.
Jeffrey
Let's just give it a shot. We're speculating forever. Yep. We need to call and find out. I've never called someone this old before, so I wonder if she'll pick up a landline.
Alexis
Do that when we're on the phone with her.
Jeffrey
I can't wait.
Alexis
She is gonna hang up on us.
Jeffrey
Okay, I won't say it.
Alexis
Do we need Jeffrey?
Jeffrey
I promise I'm not crossing any body parts. I won't say it. Okay, Here we go.
Lori/Dana (Call-in Guests)
Hello?
Jeffrey
Hi, is this Lori?
Lori/Dana (Call-in Guests)
Speaking. Who's calling?
Alexis
Hi, Laurie.
Jeffrey
Yeah, sorry. You're on the radio right now. Your voice kind of took me by surprise.
Alexis
Why?
Jeffrey
I don't know.
Brooke
I know why.
Alexis
You have some weird preconceived notions.
Jeffrey
No, I'm sorry. Yes, who is this? Sorry, we're a show called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning.
Lori/Dana (Call-in Guests)
Yeah, why are you calling?
Alexis
Because it's a great question, Lori.
Jeffrey
Yeah, we. We do a segment called the Second Date Update. And that's where we help our listeners who've gone out with somebody hook up with them one more time.
Alexis
Go out with them one more time.
Brooke
Sorry, this is not.
Lori/Dana (Call-in Guests)
I don't know if you have. I think you might have the wrong number. I'm so sorry.
Jeffrey
No, it's not the wrong.
Brooke
Well, it may be the wrong number.
Jeffrey
Are you. Are you the lorry that went out with a guy recently named Nate to dinner?
Lori/Dana (Call-in Guests)
Oh, God.
Jeffrey
A little younger than you.
Alexis
What?
Lori/Dana (Call-in Guests)
How do you know this? I'm sorry, how do we know this?
Alexis
You are having a reaction right now to that name.
Jeffrey
Sorry, we're not trying to, like, make this awkward for you, but Nate reached out to our show and told us that you guys went out and he's been trying to see you again, but.
Lori/Dana (Call-in Guests)
Oh, God.
Alexis
He really liked you.
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
Oh, no.
Lori/Dana (Call-in Guests)
Okay.
Alexis
Okay. Why?
Lori/Dana (Call-in Guests)
I'm. Well, I just. I don't. I think something got like. Some wires have been crossed here.
Alexis
What do you mean?
Jeffrey
We're. We're a little bit confused because he told us that you even mentioned a specific time and a date, like 2:00 a Tuesday where you wanted to meet up with him and you couldn't make it.
Lori/Dana (Call-in Guests)
Yeah, well, I just. I feel bad because I. To be honest, I haven't been 100% upfront with him about my. I guess my intentions for wanting to meet up with Him.
Alexis
You met him on the dating app, right? Like, I mean, if you meet anybody on a dating app, it feels like the intention is to date romantic.
Jeffrey
Oh, so you're just looking for a fling?
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
No.
Lori/Dana (Call-in Guests)
No, I'm not. I'm married.
Alexis
Wait, what? Wait, what? Oh, what do you mean you're married? Why are you on an app?
Lori/Dana (Call-in Guests)
I didn't mean to be on a dating. The dating part. I went on this app, and you can. You can look for friendship. I was. You know, I put on my profile.
Alexis
Oh, my God.
Jeffrey
Wait, so you were on the wrong section or.
Alexis
He was on the wrong section.
Jeffrey
Did you. Did that come up during your date that you're trying to be his friend?
Lori/Dana (Call-in Guests)
You know, I. I guess I didn't. I wasn't, like, explicitly saying, you know, I'm just looking for a friend. I think I just. What's happening is I have a stepson, and he is 17, and he can't drive. He can't figure out driving. And I was looking at this app, you know, some friends of mine use it, and they said, you know, take a look, because sometimes you can meet people that have different skills that can actually help you out in the real world.
Alexis
I don't get it.
Lori/Dana (Call-in Guests)
Like, came across Nate's profile, and I saw he's a valet, and my son is having trouble with parking.
Alexis
Oh, like, why wouldn't you just be out front and ask him, like, hey, and tell him what's going on as soon as you message him on the app?
Lori/Dana (Call-in Guests)
Well, I mean, he. We were talking about, you know, what do you. What do you like to do in your spare time?
Alexis
Yeah.
Lori/Dana (Call-in Guests)
And so Nate brought up that he likes to play this game, Rocket League. And I was like, oh, I know Rocket League because I have a kid who plays Rocket League.
Brooke
Oh, that's how you know.
Jeffrey
Okay, well, this is clearing up a lot of things.
Alexis
I don't know.
Jeffrey
I don't know what to say other than we need to tell you that Nate is on the other line right now and has been listening to this conversation.
Lori/Dana (Call-in Guests)
Oh, great. Okay.
Alexis
God, wouldn't that be good? Because now it's clear.
Jeffrey
Nate.
Lori/Dana (Call-in Guests)
Actually, yeah, I think this is. I mean, I don't. I can't believe he wouldn't just talk to me, but I could.
Jeffrey
Now's your chance to do it. Nate, you there?
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
Yeah, I'm here. I'm in shock.
Alexis
Nate, did you have any idea she was looking to just hire you to help her son?
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
No, and I'm regretting calling the radio about it.
Alexis
That's a little Embarrassing.
Lori/Dana (Call-in Guests)
Why do you think I bought you dinner? I bought you dinner. It wasn't a date. I didn't want you to think it was a date. It was like sort of an interview.
Alexis
You know, you don't go to dinner for interviews. Like, I've never taken a babysitter out to dinner because I wanted poor babysitters.
Jeffrey
You know, treat them like trash.
Alexis
I've never, like, been like, hey, is there a young 30something man that wants to babysit my kids and let me take you out to dinner?
Jeffrey
Like that just seems you should give it a try. It works out really well.
Alexis
That's weird. It doesn't, because she's here.
Lori/Dana (Call-in Guests)
Well, on the app, we were chatting before the date, and he was saying how he was interested in, you know, in other words, business and E commerce. And so I have experience in that. And I thought, you know, I'll. I'll scratch his back if he can scratch mine.
Alexis
I think he meant literally, like some actual.
Jeffrey
Yeah, Skin to skin contact. Huh. I can't see that.
Brooke
Like, I could see why there's a mis.
Alexis
Community.
Jeffrey
Nate, are we clearing things up for you here?
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
So just to be clear, the 2pm thing, that's not like a hangout afternoon delight? Sort of.
Jeffrey
Oh, yeah. You have to hang out with him on a Tuesday at 2?
Lori/Dana (Call-in Guests)
No, my son's off from school at that time, so, you know, I just thought it would be the perfect time for driving lesson before his lacrosse starts.
Alexis
Or riding lessons or perfect time before your husband gets home. I don't know. I just still think you got caught, but.
Lori/Dana (Call-in Guests)
Okay, no, you can go to my profile right now and says, looking for friendship.
Brooke
Okay, so does my Tinder bag.
Jeffrey
Hot tip. Men don't read the profiles.
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
That just usually means you're not looking for something serious.
Brooke
Yeah, he's right.
Alexis
I mean, maybe include a picture of you and your husband next time. That could mean something else. Yeah.
Lori/Dana (Call-in Guests)
Yeah, I guess I'll do that. I will do that.
Brooke
Well, hold on.
Jeffrey
We still have Nate on the phone with us here. Maybe there's some sort of deal that we could strike up.
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
Yeah, I mean, are you still looking for, like, helping your son out? Because, like, I could use some money.
Alexis
Oh, okay.
Jeffrey
So maybe he's interested.
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
I'll take money over forehead kisses any day.
Lori/Dana (Call-in Guests)
Yeah, I'm so sorry about the forehead kiss. I honestly, I didn't know what to do there.
Alexis
I do that to all my babysitters and people that help with my kids, too.
Brooke
Yeah, she does it to us, even.
Alexis
Every day when we leave.
Jeffrey
It's super awkward.
Lori/Dana (Call-in Guests)
I mean, I'm. I'm absolutely willing, you know, if the offer stands, I'm willing to help you out with some business business acumen and, you know, different tips and everything. If you can help me with my.
Alexis
Son, that's pretty good.
Jeffrey
What do you say, Nate? There's once of a lifetime opportunity, you.
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
Know, I've got your number. Let's work something out.
Alexis
Okay. So now we're actually paying for a real business dinner this time.
Jeffrey
Yeah, I guess so.
Alexis
Yeah.
Jeffrey
Well, look at that, Nate. We're trying to hook you up with like a romantic partner, but we may have just gotten you a part time job instead. There we go.
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
You know what? I'll take it.
Alexis
Hey, make sure to put us on your LinkedIn, okay? Will do.
Jeffrey
It'll be a reference for you, Brooke.
Alexis
And Jeffrey in the morning.
Brooke
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Alexis
Dating apps. But you go on the friend part like bumble bff.
Brooke
Yes, you could meet friends on the dating part two.
Jeffrey
According to our listeners, it's more common than you'd think. Should we set up a friend? Maybe we should set up a friend seeking part profile for Brooke on Tinder.
Brooke
You're you up for that, bro?
Alexis
Sketchy. Dude, no. How good is it going to feel.
Jeffrey
To have all these people who want to be your friend and you can reject them one by one or just on the forehead.
Alexis
I'll claim I was just hiring him for my kid, I swear.
Brooke
See, now you get it.
Jeffrey
Then you'll end up on some other morning show doing another second here on Ryan Se.
Alexis
So sketchy. All of that is so sketchy.
Jeffrey
Okay, well, it's not for everybody, but if you ever do go out on a date, please, just let's save it for the dates. Yeah, we're not doing the friend match online for this segment.
Brooke
Yeah, if your friend's not calling you back, we don't care.
Alexis
I'm sorry, that hurts more. Yeah.
Jeffrey
Painful. No. If you want help hooking up your romantic life, email the show. We'll call that person who isn't calling you back.
Alexis
Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
Jeffrey
In the history of this show, we've had outrageous second dates. Awkward ones. Pull your car over to the side of the road and weep into your hands while hugging your steering wheel type of date.
Alexis
Oh, wow, that's intense, Jeff.
Jeffrey
We've had all different kinds.
Brooke
It's like 100 car pile up on the side of the freeway of criers.
Alexis
Didn't know that was our fault. Sorry, oops.
Jeffrey
Our bad. But this, I promise you today, out of all the ones we've done this year, is probably the most memorable of the entire bunch. And it all started with an unexpected situation that happened right after dinner was over. And it's something we've definitely never heard before.
Alexis
I honestly am still scarred. Can I say that?
Jeffrey
Scarred with love. You're gonna hear it in your extra memorable second date update. Happening right after this second date update. When listeners submit request requests for phone taps or second date updates, they'll send us an email. Or you can also fill out like a little questionnaire on our website.
Alexis
Yeah, we have like a submit form. You actually go to brookeandjeffrey.com submit.
Brooke
Yeah, that's almost too easy, bro.
Jeffrey
Yeah, if you do it, there's a section on there where we ask people to tell us A little bit about themselves so that we can get an idea of who they are. And the guy on the phone today wrote in the about me section, he alligator wrestles on the weekends. What has a collection of inflatable blow up dolls and used to drive submarines. Submarines for Russia until they fired him when he opened a window underwater. And they didn't like that.
Alexis
Shut up.
Lori/Dana (Call-in Guests)
He's joking.
Jeffrey
I don't know if he was joking. I'm just gonna take him at his word for it. Please welcome disgraced Russian submarine captain Eric to the show.
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
Hello.
Lori/Dana (Call-in Guests)
Hello.
Brooke
Not even an accent?
Jeffrey
Eric's not a very Russian name. And yeah, I don't detect any Russian accent. You must be. Must be quite the spy now.
Alexis
I mean, I get it. Like, you'd want fresh air if you're on a submarine, right? You know, makes sense.
Jeffrey
That is so funny guessing some of that about me section wasn't a hundred percent true.
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
Well, I think you can all agree it gets a little stuffy with all the men on a submarine.
Alexis
Okay, okay, so that part was. Yeah, yeah. Oh, my God. Hey, thanks for the laugh already. Like, we.
Lori/Dana (Call-in Guests)
We've.
Alexis
We didn't even get you on the phone before I started laughing.
Jeffrey
Yeah, Brooklyn doesn't laugh that hard at any of my jokes, so you should probably be in my role. But we. I know you wanted to do a second date update here. You went out with a woman recently.
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
I do, yes. I went out with a very lovely woman by the name of Dana, and we had what I thought was a terrific date.
Alexis
Can I ask real quick? Did you guys meet on a dating app?
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
We did.
Alexis
Does your dating app include the Russian submarine information?
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
I don't remember whether I included that on the app. I mean, you know, I've got so many things that I use that may have. I don't recall.
Jeffrey
So what stood out to you about Dana?
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
Well, there was one particular photo that I really liked. It was part of the city that's near and dear to me. And I saw her sitting there and it just. It really attracted me to her.
Alexis
Oh, that's interesting. Like, she obviously loves something you love.
Jeffrey
Is it the sewer where you wrestle alligators? Is that the area of the city?
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
Well, you know what? As funny as that would be. No, really weird. Connected on travel as probably the main thing. He was a fan of that. And I had a lot of photos from my travel experiences. I. Not to say I'm the around the world in 80 days guy or anything, but I've been to a number of countries that I've Enjoyed. So.
Jeffrey
So which country did you travel to for your first date?
Alexis
Wouldn't that be cool?
Lori/Dana (Call-in Guests)
If it was that exotic?
Jeffrey
That would be cool.
Alexis
Oh, my God.
Jeffrey
Or did you go simpler with it?
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
Well, no, we went much simpler. And really, I don't want to name names. We were mostly on opposite sides of the city, and she set it up. She was willing to come toward my side of the city to a small place I hadn't heard of.
Alexis
Oh, she found the spot that was near you?
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
It was closer to me. I wouldn't say near me, but definitely closer to me. She came more than halfway to meet me.
Alexis
Okay, Was it like a bar, restaurant where we at?
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
It was a restaurant. It was a very small, independent Italian restaurant.
Brooke
Olive Garden independent.
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
It was lovely weather. We sat outside, had a glass of wine, had dinner. Just rehashed some of what we had talked about on our initial phone calls.
Alexis
Okay, what was the vibe between you two?
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
I was very much attracted to her, and I very much thought she was attracted to me.
Jeffrey
Okay, based on what? Was there, like a moment or something that happened that gave you that feeling?
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
Oh, that she was attracted to me. Nothing. Well, perhaps you. You read into this what you think.
Alexis
But I love Ben. She showed up.
Jeffrey
She was there, and she didn't leave, so she must be at least sort of into it.
Brooke
A couple times when I talked, she responded.
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
When she went to the restroom, she actually came back.
Alexis
Yeah.
Brooke
Wow.
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
Hey, look at us.
Jeffrey
I mean, I know that sounds crazy, but a lot of these second dates end with them going to the bathroom and never coming back.
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
When will she be back from the restroom?
Jeffrey
Right.
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
Okay, I do want to mention. I do want to mention the moment that you asked for. And you can tell me what you think of this. That is when it was time to leave. I had such an enjoyable time with her that we got up to leave, and she was standing in front of me. Her hair was up.
Alexis
Okay.
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
And the back of her bare neck was in front of me. And I just couldn't help it. I bent down and I gave her a kiss on the neck.
Alexis
On the back of her neck.
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
The back of the neck.
Alexis
Like, she didn't even see you coming.
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
Did not see me coming.
Brooke
That just made me, like, flinch.
Lori/Dana (Call-in Guests)
My neck, as crazy as it sounds.
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
Or creepy as it sounds, she turned around and smiled.
Alexis
Are you sure it wasn't a cringe?
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
Yeah, I am sure because some things happened later on. I don't want to go into detail. It was nothing that.
Brooke
Ah.
Jeffrey
She kissed the back of your leg, so you started.
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
No not at all.
Alexis
She starts top, she starts down. Eventually they meet in the middle.
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
We got to know each other a little bit better. We were slightly more intimate than that.
Alexis
Well, maybe you did find a good match, because my gut reaction to somebody doing that would probably be like, turn around an elbow and face or something, you know?
Jeffrey
You know, it's bad when Brooke says she isn't into it because she hasn't gotten any action for years, so she should be open to anything, honestly.
Alexis
Lick my neck.
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
Yeah.
Alexis
I'm kidding. I'm kidding.
Jeffrey
Yeah.
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
Maybe that's the reason why she's not reaching back to me.
Jeffrey
Okay.
Alexis
It's hard to think, though, because she. She did.
Jeffrey
Yeah.
Alexis
I'm assuming you're saying made out with you later.
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
Yes, that was it exactly. I kissed her as tenderly as I could, and she certainly wasn't against it.
Alexis
Okay.
Jeffrey
The more you describe your kissing, the.
Brooke
Less I like the tender neck kiss.
Alexis
Yeah.
Jeffrey
We're gonna go into as little description as possible when we call her, and then we'll come back, get your second date update. Hopefully, if she answers, can we call her tenderly? No. I don't know.
Brooke
Okay, sorry.
Jeffrey
I think she's had enough tender stuff happen the last few hours. We'll come back, get your second date update right after this. Hold on. Second date update? You know, for our social media. Yeah, I feel like we don't do quite enough to describe what's happening in these second date phone calls.
Alexis
Okay. You know, I mean, because it's. We obviously can't have the listener on video.
Jeffrey
Right. I think we need to give people more of a visual of what happened on Eric's date the other night. So we're gonna start rolling some video right here in the studio and have Brooke get up out of her seat, wait me, and walk around to Alexis and tenderly kiss her on the back of the neck the same way that Eric Rick did to Dana.
Lori/Dana (Call-in Guests)
Wine and pasta.
Alexis
We've had this.
Jeffrey
I have a feeling, Alexis, you're gonna like this way more than you think you will.
Lori/Dana (Call-in Guests)
I think so, actually.
Brooke
We've had this request on the text board for years.
Lori/Dana (Call-in Guests)
Lunch recently, too.
Jeffrey
But you might go back after this happens and start kissing all of your female roommates on the back of the neck. This might be a new, like, bonding activity.
Alexis
My breath is hot, too, because I just had. I had fried jalapenos with my. With my meal.
Jeffrey
I've never seen Brooke this excited.
Alexis
I bet you could feel me coming from, like, four inches away.
Jeffrey
All right, here comes Brooke doing a little saunter. Dance over behind Alexis. Alexis, expose your neck to her, please. She's digging through her hair.
Alexis
I'm so scared this won't work.
Jeffrey
Oh, it's not going to work.
Brooke
Too much hair.
Alexis
Thank God.
Jeffrey
Should we get the scissors out?
Alexis
I know. No, no, no. I meant to let you know I. I'm turned off.
Jeffrey
Sorry.
Lori/Dana (Call-in Guests)
You're turned off? It's so insulting.
Alexis
I like it. Dude, your neck is kind of hairy. We try.
Jeffrey
The girls in studio do think, though, that's the reason that Eric is not getting a call back. Because that was his go to move.
Alexis
Oh. If it was anything like what I just felt, I can't imagine being Eric and making that decision to make that happen.
Jeffrey
Eric, they're thinking that might be the reason that she's not calling you back.
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
I certainly hope not. At the time, it seemed like the thing to do.
Alexis
Had you pulled that move before or is this a first time for you?
Brooke
Good question.
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
No, first and only time. I couldn't help myself. I was so attracted to her.
Alexis
That's honestly better.
Jeffrey
Because she had bent down, leaving her neck a little bit exposed, and like a shark on Shark Week, Eric swam out from behind one of the tables and just planted one on her open neck.
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
There were no teeth involved that time.
Alexis
I mean, they did make out later, so she wasn't completely turned off.
Jeffrey
Must have been sort of into it. Those Italian wines at that restaurant must have hit pretty hard.
Alexis
I need some of that right now.
Jeffrey
Now we got to call Dana. Here we go. I'm going to dial her number right now. We'll see if she picks up.
Lori/Dana (Call-in Guests)
Hello?
Jeffrey
Hey, we're looking for Dana.
Lori/Dana (Call-in Guests)
Yes. Who's this?
Jeffrey
This is a radio show called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning. That's why I said we.
Brooke
Hi. There's more people here.
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
Okay.
Lori/Dana (Call-in Guests)
Hi. Can I help you?
Jeffrey
Yeah, yeah, we're doing a segment called A Second Date Update, and we're trying to help a guy that you went out with get in touch with you again so that you guys can meet up one more time.
Lori/Dana (Call-in Guests)
I'm not sure I'm interested in participating in this, to be honest with you.
Alexis
Well, maybe it will be when you find out who it is, you know.
Jeffrey
Because as far as we've heard, it was a great night. At least according to Eric.
Lori/Dana (Call-in Guests)
Oh, my God.
Alexis
Italian restaurant.
Jeffrey
Eric.
Lori/Dana (Call-in Guests)
Yeah, yeah, I got it.
Jeffrey
What did you think about the date?
Lori/Dana (Call-in Guests)
I don't know. I mean, it was going okay, but I don't know. After we hung out, I was kind of just reflecting on the whole date thing, and he. He Just seems overly comfortable and experienced. Like, more than I expected and more than other guys that I met on.
Alexis
This app have been experienced.
Lori/Dana (Call-in Guests)
Like, he seemed really used to dating. Like, he just did this all the time.
Alexis
He's an adult male.
Jeffrey
I feel like you would want somebody who feels comfortable around you.
Lori/Dana (Call-in Guests)
I guess I'm not describing it right. I'm talking more of, like, a gigolo type of vibe. Like a gigolo.
Brooke
Oh, like an escort.
Jeffrey
Okay.
Alexis
Like, what do you mean? Same with Eric that we were talking about. Who uses the word tender a lot.
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
Yeah.
Lori/Dana (Call-in Guests)
So I went home and I was telling my roommate about it, and she told me that there's this Facebook page called are we dating the same guy? Do you know what that is?
Jeffrey
I thought that is.
Alexis
I thought you were gonna say. And my roommate told me she hired him for me.
Jeffrey
What's. Are we dating the same guy?
Lori/Dana (Call-in Guests)
So are we dating the same guy as this thing on Facebook where, like, it's basically a. Mainly women, and you post a picture of the guy you're dating and you see if anybody in there is also dating the same guy to see if he's like, you know, dating multiple people at the same time.
Alexis
Yeah.
Lori/Dana (Call-in Guests)
My roommate convinces me to post a picture on it. I was like, whatever. Doesn't seem like a bad idea.
Alexis
I don't know. That page seems pretty toxic. I've seen it. Alexis has shown it to me, and it's like, it's sketch.
Jeffrey
Are you sure? I bet Eric came back with glowing reviews.
Alexis
I don't think any woman on that page says one nice thing about any dude ever.
Brooke
It's never like, here's the one that got away.
Alexis
Sometimes it says, I don't know him. I haven't heard anything.
Jeffrey
Maybe nobody said anything. Did you get any responses? Any feedback?
Lori/Dana (Call-in Guests)
Well, the interesting response is that there were people that said that they've been out with him on dates before and whatever, but sure, the most shocking part was that, like, three other women have commented saying that he kissed them on the back of the neck. And I didn't even mention it in my post.
Jeffrey
What?
Lori/Dana (Call-in Guests)
Yeah, like, so one girl comments in the picture saying that she had been out with him, and he does this weird, super weird, like, back of the neck kiss. And then two other girls comment under that, like, oh, my gosh, me too.
Jeffrey
He told us that he had never used that move on any other woman before you. That you inspired him to do it.
Lori/Dana (Call-in Guests)
It was honestly so weird and so creepy, and it's like, this is like, his calling card.
Alexis
I love that. Jeffree's so upset. Like you got lied to.
Jeffrey
I do.
Alexis
It's like Jeff is upset.
Jeffrey
First I find out he's not really a Russian submarine captain. Now I find out he's actually kissing multiple women on the back of the neck. What are you gonna tell me next? That he's secretly on the other line, listening, wanting to talk to you? Because he is.
Alexis
Oh, he's there. Why?
Lori/Dana (Call-in Guests)
He's not on the phone.
Alexis
Yeah, sorry.
Jeffrey
That's how the segment works. I'm sorry. Dana?
Brooke
Yeah.
Jeffrey
Eric, you there?
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
Hello? Dana? Hello?
Alexis
Hello?
Lori/Dana (Call-in Guests)
I'm here.
Alexis
So this is almost as awkward as the next kiss.
Jeffrey
You told us that you didn't. You didn't kiss anybody else.
Lori/Dana (Call-in Guests)
Is this just something you do to everyone?
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
No, not at all. It was. It was only you that. What we had during the dinner. I couldn't control myself, and there you were. Lovely.
Lori/Dana (Call-in Guests)
Eric, I literally just said on the radio that three other women have said the same exact thing, so.
Alexis
Without her prompting them.
Lori/Dana (Call-in Guests)
Yeah, well, I don't know.
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
I don't know what to say to that. All I know is I was so overtaken.
Alexis
Just own up to it, Eric. It's a dumb move that you use that you thought was romantic.
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
Well, I don't think it was a dumb move. I mean, it certainly progressed the date.
Brooke
That's true.
Jeffrey
Yeah. I mean, you didn't. You did stick around after the neck kiss. Dana, you thought it was.
Lori/Dana (Call-in Guests)
I only stuck around because I thought it was only me. I didn't know he was a serial neck kisser going around the city.
Alexis
Wait, you would have been okay if it was only you.
Lori/Dana (Call-in Guests)
It seemed like a spontaneous romantic moment.
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
I know.
Jeffrey
Eric, we're running out of time here, so I'm gonna give you 20 seconds to talk to Dana. You can tell her whatever you want to say and try and convince her that you are really into her and you want to go out with her one more time. Go ahead.
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
Dana, I had such a lovely time with you, and I know you enjoyed being with me, too. Please, never mind whatever else it is that you're hearing. Please give us another chance. I know if we spend some more time together that you're going to enjoy it. I really think there's something there.
Alexis
It's like he read a. He read a bad, like, sales book on, like, always, always be closing.
Jeffrey
I felt like it was Anthony Hopkins reading a line from Silence of the Lambs. But it's up to you. Dana, would you like to go out with Eric one more time? We would pay for that date.
Lori/Dana (Call-in Guests)
I mean, look, it was a little bit weird that other girls said it, but up until that point, I was totally fine with it. But once you got on and denied that other girls said that, now you're just a creepy and a liar. Like now it's just.
Brooke
See, bro, Brooke was right.
Alexis
She just can't. It can only be one. A creepy or a liar. It's a triangle thing, right?
Jeffrey
Eric, I'm sorry, man. We tried for you and I really.
Nate/Eric (Listener Guests)
Was hoping for a different outcome, but. Dana, are you sure?
Lori/Dana (Call-in Guests)
Please. Yes, I'm sure. Please stop dating women in this town. We all know about it.
Brooke
I was gonna say, it sounds like.
Jeffrey
You'Re gonna have to find a new new move. I think, dude, you're gonna have to go for a different part of the body. Maybe behind the ear or something.
Alexis
No.
Brooke
That'S his go to.
Jeffrey
He's the sneak attack guy.
Alexis
Drop the go tos. Nobody should have a go to move.
Jeffrey
It's weird.
Brooke
Everyone kisses on the lips.
Alexis
Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
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Alexis
Oh, Eric's the one that did it.
Jeffrey
Yeah, I promise. Picture in my mind at least like 700 men taking out a little black book, giant red marker, crossing it off.
Brooke
I was actually thinking this like as a bro, if one of my homies and I'm like, dude, how was your day last night? And if he said, well, I got a neck kiss, I would be worried.
Alexis
It's it be congratulated. I mean maybe when you're kissing and you move down, but it's like just that.
Brooke
Not the back of the neck. Front of the neck.
Alexis
That's where we're starting.
Jeffrey
The problem with the kiss was not that it, it isn't sexy. It's that it's too played out. Eric has done it to too many women now. It's not unique anymore. It's like gently brushing the hair out of a girl's face. Everybody's done it. It's not sweet.
Alexis
Leave that hair there.
Jeffrey
Don't. Don't touch my hair.
Alexis
I have upcoming my face. I don't want to see you for a reason.
Jeffrey
Actually stay 20ft away from Alexis the entire day.
Lori/Dana (Call-in Guests)
Combed my veins down.
Jeffrey
Like see on purpose.
Alexis
I feel like Alexis would flinch. Like ah, she would.
Jeffrey
But even though that move is now officially not allowed anymore, no more neck kisses. There's plenty of other things you can go with. Plenty of other ways you can screw things up. And we're going to, we're going to be there for you through all the mistakes. We'll help you get back on track. Email the show. We'll call that person who isn't calling you back. You can check out all of our second date podcast. Learn all the mistakes people have made in their past wherever you get your podcast at Brooke and Jeffrey.
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Episode: "Driving Miss Laurie" + "Lick My Neck"
Air Date: November 29, 2025
Host: iHeartPodcasts
This classic installment of "Second Date Update" features two memorable misadventures in modern dating: "Driving Miss Laurie" and "Lick My Neck." In typical Brooke and Jeffrey fashion, the hosts inject humor and empathy as they dig into two "ghosted" first-date stories—each revealing the awkward, unexpected, and sometimes utterly bizarre realities of finding love (or at least a second date) in the app era.
The episode’s main theme is the unpredictable gap between dating expectations and reality—from age gaps to misread intentions, to “signature moves” that might turn out to be notorious.
Nate’s Story:
Date Details:
Post-Date & Ghosting:
The Truth Comes Out:
Nate’s Reaction:
Eric’s Story:
The Date & The Move:
The Aftermath:
About the neck kiss:
Host banter and mock demonstration:
On Dating Miscommunications:
On “Signature Moves”:
This episode epitomizes “Second Date Update”—love attempts, laughter guaranteed. If you’re ever ghosted, just be grateful you didn’t end up as a driving tutor, or discovered your date had a “signature move” citywide.