Second Date Update Classics: Ex Marks The Shot + Better Late Than Never

Summary

Podcast Summary: Brooke and Jeffrey – Second Date Update Classics: Ex Marks The Shot + Better Late Than Never

Original Airdate: February 21, 2026
Show: Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Host Network: iHeartPodcasts
Format: “Second Date Update” – Listeners who have been ghosted after a first date get help calling their lost connection to learn what went wrong, often revealing unexpected drama and awkward truths.

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Episode Overview

This “Second Date Update Classics” episode features two unforgettable segments:

1. Ex Marks The Shot – A promising date at a rock show derails when a jealous ex enters the picture.
2. Better Late Than Never – A late arrival for a first date triggers a spiral of over-explanation and awkward moments, dooming hopes for romance.

The conversations are fast-paced, snarky, and packed with the team's trademark humor and empathy as they unravel the drama behind why their guests didn’t get a second date.

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Listener Comments & Show Intro

[03:03–04:05]

• Brooke starts with shout-outs and listener comments, emphasizing the show’s global audience (notably, four listeners in Uganda get a special mention).
• Brooke: “Let us know when you guys are all together and you find each other.” [03:48]
• The hosts warmly encourage listeners to share where they’re tuning in from, setting an upbeat and inclusive tone.

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Segment 1: Ex Marks The Shot

[04:05–23:32]

Main Theme

A date with a musician turns into chaos when his ex arrives wearing his stolen jersey, leading to an awkward showdown and a test of honesty.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Setup

• Jack (the dater seeking the second chance) plays drums in a band and meets Andrea via Instagram.
• He invited Andrea to one of his gigs, intending it as both a fun night out and a bit of a romantic flex.

2. The Ex Appears

• Moments before Jack goes on stage, his ex-girlfriend unexpectedly arrives—wearing his old jersey.
• Cast jokes about drama-prone musicians and how public gigs are prime territory for “ex encounters.”
• Quote, Jack: "She was wearing the jersey that she stole from me when we broke up." [08:00]

3. Awkward Interactions and Damage Control

• After Jack’s set, there’s a “meet and greet” with fans, stretching Andrea’s patience.
• Jack’s ex manages to engage Andrea (the new date) in conversation; Jack feels powerless and frustrated.
• Brooke: “You start to feel lame… What am I doing? Why am I by myself?” [09:31]
• Jack admits he had to awkwardly introduce his ex to Andrea, leading to even more drama.
• The ex offers to give back the jersey—while bragging that's all she’s wearing.
• Andrea: “I was actually thinking that, like, maybe she’s the wacko…But this is the worst part in this whole thing and really makes me not want to go out with him at all.” [16:21–16:34]

4. The Nickname Twist

• Andrea reveals that Jack’s ex told her he’d called her “cockatoo” as a pet name—the very same he’d used with Andrea.
• Andrea feels the gesture is insincere: “I mean, I thought it was cute because it’s a songbird…and he totally played it off, but he obviously does that with multiple women.” [16:58]

5. Jack Confronts the Callout

• Jack (brought on the line) admits, awkwardly, he reuses cute nicknames: "Out of all of the cockatiels out there, you are my favorite one." [18:11]
• Andrea finds this unoriginal, “major ick,” and definitively rejects a second date.

6. Analysis and Reflection

• The team discusses whether dating someone with a dramatic ex is a red flag or just a dating hazard.
• Brooke: “He can’t be labeled psycho just because he had a psycho ex. That’s all I’m saying. I don’t think that’s fair.” [19:33]
• Andrea says, “psychos attract psychos,” while Jack promises his only mistake was “bad judgment.”

7. Final Outcome

• Andrea emphatically declines another date, despite Brooke and Jeffrey’s offer.
• Jack jokes about the never-ending “cockatiel” mess: “I’ve got two cockatiels in my life; one’s just blown away and I don’t even know if I want to keep the other one.” [20:52]

Notable Quotes & Moments

• Jeffrey (tongue-in-cheek): “If you love a bird, you have to let the cockatiel fly free...” [20:38]
• Brooke (on pet names): “Cockatiel is a terrible pet name. I’m sorry.” [20:47]
• Playful banter about dating, drama, and the perils of musician romance.

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Segment 2: Better Late Than Never

[24:22–41:02]

Main Theme

A blind date is ruined by late arrival, an overabundance of nervous explanations, and the inability to move on from a disastrous first impression.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Setup

• Kyle is set up with Ashley by mutual friends for a traditional dinner-and-(maybe)-a-movie Friday night.
• He’s late—first due to traffic, then because his nervous leg shakes off his shoe, leading to a roadside incident and a minor case of road rage.

2. Pre-Date Catastrophes

• Kyle’s nerves get the best of him: “My shoe came off while I was driving. I was freaking out.” [27:12]
• He stops at a drugstore for gum but tells Ashley only that he had to stop somewhere, making his lateness even more suspicious.
• Arrives about 25–30 minutes late; first impression already rocky.

3. Over-Explanation & Poor Recovery

• Kyle overcompensates, reiterating his tale of lateness and misfortune multiple times during dinner.
• Ashley (later): “Are we going to go on a date? Or are we just going to recap the reason you were late…?” [36:02]
• She rolls her eyes but tries to move on; Kyle is too flustered to regain chemistry.

4. False Hope

• Drinks are ordered, conversation resumes, and Kyle tries to hint at continuing the night (as they had flirted about in pre-date texts).
• Ashley makes a quick exit, saying she needs to grade papers—a transparent excuse.
• Kyle: “It’s a Friday night! … There’s no way you’re gonna go home and go ‘yeah, you know, I’m just gonna grade some of these.’” [30:26]
• Neither has contacted the other since.

5. The Second Call

• Hosts reveal to Ashley she’s on air and explain why Kyle reached out.
• Ashley complains (with exasperated humor) about receiving three separate “I’m going to be late” texts, then Kyle’s inability to drop the topic: “He loves the story,” she groans. “I can’t believe he called the radio to tell it again.” [37:08]
• Ashley makes clear she wants a meal, not a running commentary: “Can I get a taco? Like, please.” [36:16]

6. On-air Confrontation

• Kyle joins the line, sheepishly apologizes, but starts to re-explain the shoe saga, which the group interrupts.
• Ashley: “The only thing I don’t want you to talk about.” [38:08]
• The hosts offer a free second date.
• Ashley: “I’m completely free, I just don’t want to talk about—” [39:22]
• She reiterates she doesn’t want to see him again and signs off (“Goodbye, radio people.” [40:21]).

7. Wrap-up

• Kyle, nursing rejection, says “good riddance”—he wants someone with more patience for his storytelling.
• Banter resumes about “the shoe story,” with hosts gently mocking Kyle’s inability to let the incident go.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Ashley: “He was like…stopping the waiter…finally, I’m freaking starving, let’s order something. He’s like, ‘No, no, I’ll give us 15 minutes…’” [36:39]
• Kyle (self-aware): “I understand what she was saying, but I don’t feel like she was understanding what I was saying.” [40:46]
• Brooke: “Maybe tell the story to your mom—maybe she’d like to hear.” [40:45]

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End of Show Commentary & Post-Mortems

[42:33–43:36]

• Brooke and Jeffrey reflect on the futility of both scenarios—how Jack’s ex and Kyle’s shoe story made recovery impossible.
• Jeffrey: “A lot of dating is talking about things that happen to you in your life…but I can also understand his date’s perspective: she doesn’t want to rehash the details over and over.” [42:47]
• Brooke: “She just literally wants to eat sausage.” [43:10]
• The hosts joke that stability ruins their show content—they want the actual drama for podcast gold.

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Important Timestamps

• [03:03] – Listener shout-outs and global audience
• [05:48] – Jack reveals ex crashed his date
• [09:43] – Ex and current date interact; jersey drama
• [16:10] – Andrea recounts ex's bathroom ambush & “cockatiel” nickname
• [18:11] – Jack tries to salvage things (“You’re my favorite cockatiel”)
• [19:31] – Group debates ex-drama vs. red flags
• [24:44] – Kyle’s pre-date nightmare begins
• [27:12] – Kyle’s shoe/road rage/gum saga
• [36:01] – Ashley’s exasperation: “Are we going to go on a date or…”
• [37:08] – “He loves the story. I can’t believe he called the radio…”
• [38:08] – Ashley: “The only thing I don’t want you to talk about.”
• [40:21] – Ashley signs off, shutting down the second date
• [43:10] – End-of-show humor (“she wanted a taco, Jeff”)

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Tone and Style

• The episode is lively, snarky, and loaded with playful jabs—especially about dating mishaps, musician stereotypes, and communication fails.
• The hosts champion good communication and honesty, though never miss an opportunity to rib guests for awkward choices or recycled pet names.
• Listener empathy is balanced with tongue-in-cheek advice and real attempts to give closure—or, at least, comic relief—to daters left in the cold.

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Summary Takeaways

• Authenticity and self-awareness are key in dating: Audiences hear that “flexes” (like a band gig) and endless excuses (for lateness) often backfire.
• You can’t recover from a bad vibe with over-compensation or by reusing nicknames: Both cases crash for these exact reasons.
• Drama may be entertaining, but stability is preferred by daters—even if not by the podcast.
• Best quotes:
  • “If you love a bird, you have to let the cockatiel fly free…” [20:38, Jeffrey]
  • “He loves the story. It’s his favorite story. I can’t believe he called the radio to tell it again.” [37:08, Ashley]
• Hosts want more chaos for podcast gold, but real people just want a drama-free meal and a fresh start.

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For new listeners:
If you want to laugh at the calamities of modern dating and walk away with a few cautionary tales, this episode is a must. As always, skip the “meet my ex” at your first gig, and maybe only tell your shoe story once.

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back classics that time where you just get double the dose. Thank you so much for being here. It's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning and this is your second date update podcast. Before we just jump right in, I love to start. Alexis especially loves to start with comments. I do. I love this. This part is my favorite. Getting a whole list of them. I'm like, ooh, I feel like I'm doing some little investigative work.

[Jeffrey]

Absolutely.

[Brooke]

And Bukenya Kenneth said, am I the only listener in Uganda? I felt sad after missing a full week of episodes due to Internet shutdown. Well, look at this. I just looked it up and there's actually four of you in Uganda. Hey, look at that. You guys have to find each other.

[Jeffrey]

Seriously.

[Brooke]

The odds are like, yeah. You need someone to talk about it. Absolutely. You're going to turn around like you're the other one. Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

So let us know when you guys are all together and you find each other.

[Bowen Yang]

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[Brooke]

Absolutely. Thank you for being here. Wherever you are in the world, shout out your country if you want to. We love, love to see where you're listening from. It's Brooke and Jeffrey and your second date podcast starts right now.

[Jeffrey]

The great thing about dating rock stars is their famously low drama.

[Brooke]

What?

[Jeffrey]

That is not particularly. Drummers. Tommy Lee, Travis Barker, Animal from the Muppets. Notoriously stable, even keel dudes.

[Brooke]

Are you kidding me? Animal's a walking red flag, Jeff.

[Jeffrey]

Love him. That's why we were shocked when we heard a local musician was on a first hangout with a lady and a tense situation went down involving an unexpected visitor.

[Brooke]

I'm sorry. I'm laughing because we were playing a guitar solo and talking about drummers.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, we didn't have a lot of drums solos. Have what we worked with, but this guy needs our help. You're going to hear it in a second date update right after this Brooke

[Andrea]

and Jeffrey in the morning.

[Brooke]

Second date update.

[Jeffrey]

Who is the worst person that could randomly show up and surprise you on your date? Your dad.

[Alexis]

I'd love it if my dad showed up on a date.

[Brooke]

Everybody loves my dad too. Yeah, it would suck because my date would be like, hey, let's go hang out with him.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, happens a lot. Maybe your grandma, cuz she made you a ham sandwich so you'd have enough energy to last the entire night.

[Alexis]

Okay.

[Brooke]

Grandmas are so cute.

[Alexis]

They are. My grandma's really old. I don't think she knows which grandchild I am anymore.

[Brooke]

But she knows he loves me and

[Alexis]

that's all that matters.

[Brooke]

Charlie.

[Jeffrey]

Apparently it got a little awkward for our listener, Jack, cuz he says somebody from his past kind of crashed his date the other night. Uhoh. And Jack, I've not read your email yet, so I'm just going to assume it was your third grade teacher who gave you a C in handwriting, Ms. McCrosky.

[Jack]

No, it's even worse than that.

[Jeffrey]

Wow.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, no.

[Brooke]

Second grade teacher who?

[Jack]

My ex showed up to the date.

[Jeffrey]

Oh God.

[Alexis]

Actual ex.

[Brooke]

Is it one of those drama things where it's an ex who's been following you around and can't get over you and then just causes all sorts of business? Is that it?

[Jack]

Well, it hasn't really happened before, but it is starting to kind of feel that way after this.

[Alexis]

Oh. It was natural, like it just happened kind of thing.

[Brooke]

I guess we have to hear the story.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, tell us how it went.

[Jack]

So I'm a. I'm a musician. I play drums in the band.

[Jeffrey]

Wow. Does that have anything to do with the story or is that just a flex you wanted to toss out there?

[Brooke]

I mean, it's a good flex.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah.

[Jack]

Okay, what's the setup?

[Brooke]

Oh, okay. Okay.

[Jeffrey]

That has to do with the story.

[Brooke]

Okay. So where did you meet the girl that you were going to go out with? Not your ex.

[Jack]

So we've actually been talking through Instagram and I've been chatting with her and seemed like things were starting to feel like there was some chemistry there. So I, I invited her to the show so she could come watch me play.

[Brooke]

Now that's a flex. Yeah.

[Alexis]

I love having a comedy show because girls are always like, can I come? Yeah, I think it's not sold out.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, it's never sold. That's where, that's where I invited. I invited Ms. McCroski to my concert recital. Yeah. So that she'd boost up that handwriting grade.

[Brooke]

But didn't work out.

[Jeffrey]

It got weird.

[Brooke]

Great. Handwriting. I can't believe she failed.

[Alexis]

You're flexing on the wrong women.

[Jeffrey]

I know, I know, I know. Sorry. Jack, tell us how it went with you and your concert.

[Jack]

Well, so before the show started, I was chatting with this girl. Her name's Andrea. We were having a good time, and right before the gig starts and I'm about to go up on stage, my ex walks in.

[Brooke]

This makes more sense, though, because it's, like, a public venue. You're obviously going to be playing. I thought she was going to be, like, crashing your dinner date.

[Alexis]

Yeah, like, she didn't know you were

[Bowen Yang]

going to be there.

[Alexis]

She knows you're in a band, so she's doing this on purpose.

[Jeffrey]

Your band's probably, like, advertising it on social media, so it's everywhere.

[Kyle]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

How long ago did you guys break up?

[Jack]

Well, it's been like a year or so, so.

[Andrea]

Wow.

[Alexis]

It's like new and old.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

So you're shocked to see her then?

[Jack]

Yeah, I've, like, seen her around, but I hadn't really, like, seen her face to face or anything. And the biggest problem was she was wearing the jersey that she stole from me when we broke up.

[Alexis]

Oh, okay.

[Brooke]

This girl's friends need to get her other plans. What is she doing?

[Jeffrey]

Well, clearly, I think she knows exactly what she's trying to do, at least. And, yeah, clearly, he's. She's getting into your head, dude.

[Brooke]

Wait, we're not doing this second date because we're calling your ex, are we?

[Jack]

Oh, no, no, no, no, no.

[Brooke]

Oh, okay, okay.

[Jeffrey]

Because I was about to feel really bad about talking so much trash about.

[Brooke]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[Jack]

Okay, well, so at the end of the day, like, we got to hang out after the set, me and the girl I've been talking with. Who I'm trying to talk to you guys about Andrea.

[Brooke]

Andrea that you met on Instagram.

[Alexis]

I thought it was Andrea that I.

[Jeffrey]

Sorry, did I say it wrong?

[Alexis]

It was classy and I remembered it.

[Jack]

No, no, Andrea.

[Jeffrey]

All right.

[Brooke]

Oh, so that is wrong. He's a drummer, so his hearing's going a little bit. Yeah, yeah.

[Jack]

Yo, I can't hear.

[Jeffrey]

It's got three syllables. There's three beats to it. So, Andrea.

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, okay.

[Brooke]

So you did get someone on one time with her.

[Jack]

Yeah, before the show, we were chatting a little bit, but then afterwards, we were going to have our meet and greet, where, you know, we just have some fans come around. I spent about 15 minutes. It took way longer than I meant for it. She ended up telling Me. She needed to bounce.

[Brooke]

Yeah. I don't know if I'd have fun on a date like that. No, no, it's not fun.

[Alexis]

In my experience, the girls do not like to wait around for you.

[Brooke]

But it's not only that, you start to feel lame. Like, you start to feel like, what am I doing? Why am I by myself while this guy is talking to everybody else? I feel really pathetic right now.

[Kyle]

Yeah.

[Jack]

And, I mean, it just continues to get worse. During the meet and greet, I had to introduce my ex to Andrea.

[Brooke]

What?

[Alexis]

They were together. Like.

[Brooke]

Wait, did you introduce her as your ex?

[Jack]

Well, no, but it just sort of came up because they were talking and it just became a thing where I was trying to pull her away and my ex was sort of being a toxic, you know, sort of seeing that

[Brooke]

I bet your ex just ruined your chances. So, I mean, told her something about you that true or not.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Jack]

I mean, I didn't see them talking a lot, but when I did see them talk, and I just tried to rush over and.

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Jack]

Pull her away. And then before you know it, it's like, oh, do you guys know each other? And I'm. I'm not trying to lie on the first day.

[Brooke]

That's good. It's good that you're honest.

[Jeffrey]

But at no point after the show, you were never able to get alone time with Andrea and just connect with her.

[Brooke]

Andrea.

[Jack]

Not more than that for her, because she was like, hey, I just gotta go. And she just bounced. And then on top of that, all, like, just a cherry on top. Then my ex comes back over and offers to give me my jersey back and is bragging about how that's all she's wearing.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, wow.

[Alexis]

Wait, I'm really trying to get back.

[Brooke]

Okay.

[Alexis]

Or she's, like, just trying to mess with you.

[Brooke]

Do we have to ask? Did you take the jersey back? Did you hook up with her that night?

[Jeffrey]

Hopefully not.

[Alexis]

She's naked, Brooke.

[Jack]

I did not.

[Bowen Yang]

You did.

[Alexis]

Okay.

[Jeffrey]

Not that night. No. That's good.

[Jack]

I'm 100 over her.

[Jeffrey]

Good.

[Alexis]

That's a good thing.

[Jeffrey]

Well, let's make this phone call and we'll reassure Andrea that she is 100%.

[Brooke]

How do you say it? Different every single time?

[Jeffrey]

What? I'm saying what he said.

[Alexis]

Andrea almost called her diarrhea.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, whatever. We'll call this lady and we'll try and get you your second date update right after this.

[Brooke]

Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Second date update.

[Jeffrey]

If you're just joining us, our listener Jack was on a first date that Just kept going from bad to worry worse to Florida bad as it could get. First his ex girlfriend randomly shows up to the concert where his band was performing. She was wearing his jersey, which she stole after their breakup and ended up speaking to his date. And who knows what she said to her during that interaction.

[Brooke]

I know it was a short interaction, but I bet she got some damage done.

[Alexis]

Oh yeah, definitely set him.

[Jeffrey]

Because it's definitely not a good sign that Andrea decided to duck out early.

[Brooke]

God, I am so glad you practice her name 80 times before we went into.

[Jeffrey]

I wrote it out phonetically so just.

[Brooke]

That's good.

[Jeffrey]

So make sure I got it right. But Jack, you just want to redo like a start over on your date, right?

[Jack]

Yeah, and not at a concert. We're gonna go get drinks or do something a little bit more normal.

[Jeffrey]

Yes, at the bar where your ex bartense show up where she works.

[Brooke]

Definitely start bartending that night. I mean that's what sucks is you were trying to kind of not show off but like show her something you're really interested in and it totally backfired. Yeah.

[Jack]

Yeah, it just felt like a Murphy's Law night. Everything went wrong.

[Jeffrey]

Okay.

[Alexis]

One of those, man.

[Jeffrey]

Well, everybody hits rock bottom at some point and for a lot of people that's when you're on this show. So only places up from here. Let's give Andrea a call and see if she picks up. You ready?

[Jack]

Yeah, let's give it a go.

[Brooke]

Ok.

[Bowen Yang]

Hello?

[Jeffrey]

Hi, is this Andrea?

[Andrea]

Yep, this is she.

[Jeffrey]

Hey, you're on the radio right now with a show called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning.

[Jack]

Hello?

[Brooke]

Hi.

[Andrea]

Why?

[Brooke]

Why? That was a quick why. I like it. Are you right to the point, Andrea?

[Jeffrey]

Yeah. You sound a little scared, but you don't have to be because this is a segment, it's like a friendly thing we do called the second date update. And we're trying to help one of our listeners get back in touch with you after you went out the other night.

[Andrea]

Okay, but if I'm not answering, why would I want to talk to them now?

[Brooke]

Oh yeah, yeah. You may not want to. I think it's more that we're trying to figure it out. Why?

[Jeffrey]

Because the guy is really confused after your hangout. His name's Jack. You went to his concert. Uh huh.

[Brooke]

Well, and I guess that's a good.

[Alexis]

Confused.

[Jeffrey]

Confused isn't necessarily the right word. I think he knows that the night didn't go perfectly well.

[Andrea]

Yeah, no, it was super awkward.

[Kyle]

Right.

[Brooke]

We'd love to hear, I mean your side of It. Right.

[Andrea]

And I don't really know why I tell you that. This just seems.

[Brooke]

That's valid.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, well, here's what we know from Jack. He says that you were supposed to go to his concert. His ex girlfriend randomly showed up uninvited and basically caused a scene.

[Brooke]

Not a scene. I mean, she introduced herself and that's

[Jeffrey]

a scene for a guy.

[Alexis]

It's a very tiny scene.

[Brooke]

I mean, it was definitely a stressful moment for him and, like, super regrettable. He wishes that he would have done something totally different for your first date.

[Andrea]

I mean, I don't know. It was. I was really excited to see his band and see him play, and it just seemed like it got more awkward as the night went on. Like, I don't know. He just seemed really sketched out by the whole thing, but also kind of still polite to her. It was very strange.

[Jeffrey]

Polite?

[Brooke]

I mean, wouldn't he have to be polite? What do you want him to be? You don't want to see a man yelling at his ex.

[Alexis]

Hopefully he has respect for women.

[Jeffrey]

And I mean, he is working at the same time too. Like, he has to put on a good face to do the show.

[Alexis]

I mean, he's a rock star. I don't know how polite. It's like he could spit on someone and they'd be like, thank you, I paid a thousand for this.

[Andrea]

What do you mean he was flirting?

[Brooke]

What?

[Jeffrey]

Flirting?

[Brooke]

Wait, flirting with who?

[Alexis]

Like how?

[Brooke]

His exact.

[Andrea]

Yes, like he introduced me to her and like, it seemed like their vibe was still very flirty.

[Jeffrey]

Really?

[Brooke]

Are you sure? I mean, okay, I don't think that you were overreacting, but is there any way maybe you were being a little sensitive just because of the situation, which would be understandable.

[Andrea]

I mean, maybe, but I don't think so. Like, she cornered me in the bathroom and she's like, talking about how he's still in love with her. He's wearing his jersey and talking about how he gave this to her at the end of the relationship and there still open a door. I don't know. Like, I didn't really know how to respond to her at all.

[Alexis]

It sounds like she's twisting.

[Brooke]

I could totally see why you wouldn't want to see him again because of the drama she's starting, but she sounds unhinged. Like, that is definitely not. Not it.

[Andrea]

I mean, I was actually thinking that, like, maybe she's the wacko. You know, she's got this ulterior motive. The one wants to, like, get back with him, but this is the worst part in this whole thing and really makes me not want to go out with him at all.

[Jeffrey]

What?

[Andrea]

She was telling me about his nickname for her and how she can't wait to be his cockatoo or, I don't know, some songbird. And he was calling me that during our Instagram, like, messages.

[Jeffrey]

No.

[Alexis]

No way.

[Brooke]

It's like his. Babe, that is not cool, dude. It's also just weird to give you a name before even meeting you.

[Andrea]

Yeah, I mean, I thought it was cute because it's a songbird and he totally played it off, but he obviously does that with multiple women.

[Brooke]

Okay, I mean, that doesn't mean that he's a bad guy. It just means that he's uncreative.

[Alexis]

Yeah, but, I mean, it rubs everyone the wrong way.

[Jeffrey]

Babe, before this gets any more awkward, I should just tell you this, Andrea, That Jack is listening on the other line waiting to talk to you.

[Andrea]

You're joking, right? Like, he's not really on the phone?

[Jeffrey]

No, no, that's kind of how this whole thing works. Jack? Are you. Are you there?

[Jack]

Yeah. Hey. Hi, Andrea.

[Brooke]

Oh, man.

[Andrea]

Why would you embarrass me twice? Like, that night was awkward, and now I'm on the radio talking to strangers about you. Like, this is weird.

[Jack]

Well, first of all, I wanted to apologize for the way that night went, but you wouldn't even answer my calls to let me do that, so obviously that's my bad.

[Andrea]

Sorry.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, I think.

[Brooke]

Hey, start with the apology, Jack, instead of.

[Ashley]

Well, that's not.

[Jack]

Obviously, she just showed up, right? And she's telling you things that aren't true. And.

[Andrea]

Yeah, but she didn't lie about the nickname. You called me that from, like, our third day of talking and made it seem like it was so special to me. That's, like, major ick, man.

[Jack]

Yeah, I mean, but out of all of the cockatiels out there, you are my favorite one.

[Alexis]

Oh, guys, girls.

[Jeffrey]

Wow.

[Brooke]

I don't think Brooke and I are pet name people.

[Jeffrey]

That's got to feel good.

[Andrea]

I'm not buying it.

[Brooke]

So, wait, are you buying that he isn't interested in his ex, though? Does that. That part do you buy?

[Andrea]

I mean, I totally believe she was a psycho because she was giving me crazy eyes. Honestly. Okay, but psychos attract psychos, so it just doesn't give me a good vibe.

[Jack]

But, look, I was listening when she. You. She told you that I gave her that jersey. She stole it from me when she broke up with me. I mean, I'm trying to be polite with her because she's crazy. She's gonna key my car and light it on fire. If I'm.

[Andrea]

Maybe he's gonna keep my car or light it on fire. I. I don't want to deal with that. I'm sorry.

[Alexis]

Guys can run away together.

[Jeffrey]

Some people could see it as like, Jack is such a great boyfriend that it drove her to madness with how strong and wonderful the relationship is. She's unwilling to lose it, and it's Jersey game.

[Brooke]

Okay. But honestly though, like, there's Psychos don't always attract psychos. Like, there's people that want to see the best in others and they run past the red flags. I mean, we've all been in relationships with somebody that was some level of crazy, right?

[Jeffrey]

We're definitely not just talking about ourselves here.

[Kyle]

Right?

[Brooke]

No, I'm just saying, like, he can't be labeled psycho just because he had a psycho ex. That's all I'm saying. I don't think that's fair.

[Alexis]

Well said.

[Jack]

Thank you.

[Andrea]

Well, he has bad judgment then, because why would he go out with her? I think he dated like a year with this girl.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, he's a rock star. He doesn't have time to make great romantic decisions.

[Brooke]

You know, the good psychos aren't psycho at first. It's slowly.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, It's a slow burn into psychosis.

[Andrea]

I don't. I don't want to go out with him.

[Jeffrey]

You didn't even give me a chance to offer a free date on us, but.

[Andrea]

Well, that should tell you that I don't really want to.

[Brooke]

Yeah, we're hearing. I think Jack's hearing you too, Jack.

[Jack]

Yeah, I feel like that's my out, guys.

[Brooke]

Dude, maybe you can make like a sad rock drum song out of it, you know, use it as fire for your next hit.

[Alexis]

Guys, I need a 30 second solo. Everyone stop playing.

[Brooke]

And maybe alert security about your girl girlfriend at your next show.

[Jeffrey]

I don't know, it sounds like she's still into it. You always have another option open for you, Jack.

[Alexis]

Got a groupie to go home with.

[Jack]

I mean, at this point, if she just keeps showing up, maybe I'll just take her back. Who knows?

[Jeffrey]

No, that's the sign. If you love a bird, you have to let the cockatiel fly free. And if it comes back to you, that's the sign.

[Brooke]

And cockatiel is a terrible pet name.

[Alexis]

I'm sorry.

[Brooke]

Think of something else.

[Jeffrey]

I kind of agree. You got to workshop that one, Jack.

[Jack]

I mean, guys, I've got two cockatiels in my life, and one's just blown away and I don't even know if I want to keep the other one.

[Brooke]

Yeah, yeah, you're in a cockatiel mess.

[Jeffrey]

Two cockatiels in the hand is worth one in the bush.

[Brooke]

I don't know, sometimes you're the statue. It's sometimes a bird sitting. I don't know.

[Jeffrey]

You're a rock star. You don't have these kind of problems.

[Jack]

You're right, guys. I'm just gonna get back out there.

[Jeffrey]

There you go.

[Alexis]

Try not to meet girls out for shows.

[Andrea]

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[Jeffrey]

Man, when are we going to get people on this show that say, you know what? I like the drama. I need more chaos and excitement in my life. Bring the ex back for our second date.

[Brooke]

Let's get three X's in here. Is that what you want?

[Jeffrey]

Where are those people? Because everybody these days is so drama avoidant. It just, it really messes with our

[Brooke]

content for the show, like stability. Who wants that?

[Alexis]

You know, this is literally why reality TV dating shows thrive. Yes, we got a rock star and then 10 random women and one of them is his ex.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, I'm sorry.

[Brooke]

Have you noticed on those, it's all the same people too though.

[Alexis]

It really is.

[Jeffrey]

I mean, look, I'm excited for all like the happy, stable people out there, but we need drama heavy Content to post on our podcast.

[Brooke]

Yeah, well, maybe he really will get back with his ex. And then there'll be an opportunity. Awkward Tuesday phone call about maybe the Jersey.

[Alexis]

Oh, I like that.

[Brooke]

I mean, there's still potential with this guy.

[Jeffrey]

That's right. We can dream. Hopefully he'll be back to be on our podcast, which is available online wherever you get yours at. Brooke and Jeffrey.

[Andrea]

Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.

[Jeffrey]

Everyone deals with nerves in different ways. Oh, yeah. Jose bites his fingernails. Oh, yeah. Brooke twirls her hair and scratches her armpits. And a lot of people don't know this, but when I get a little bit panicky, my childhood maid, Lucy calls me on the phone and sings me to sleep in Spanish.

[Brooke]

You just fall asleep in the middle of whatever you're doing because you're a little nervous.

[Alexis]

Only one time a day.

[Jeffrey]

Any time of day. Even in my 30s, it is still soothing and healthy.

[Alexis]

Yeah, very healthy on the show.

[Jeffrey]

Dude, I bet our listener Kyle wished he had a Lucy. I bet he does after what happened on the way to his first first meet up with a woman. You're gonna find out. Second date update right after this.

[Brooke]

Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Second date update.

[Jeffrey]

This is not a new thing. It's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.

[Brooke]

We've been doing this segment for a long time, Jeff.

[Jeffrey]

Well, not this segment. I mean, it's not new. That we've talked about when you're more than five to 10 minutes late to a first date. Oh, I think we can all agree at least a text is needed to give them an update.

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Alexis]

Oh, yeah. Once you get to, what, 10 minutes? Seven minutes?

[Brooke]

I even think five.

[Jeffrey]

Five.

[Brooke]

Yeah, five. Sitting there alone feels like a long five minutes.

[Jeffrey]

But the thing is, what do you say to keep it light and fun? Still, do you go with like a sorry I'm late. I just needed some extra time to emotionally prepare myself for how hot you are.

[Brooke]

Oh, did that take you five minutes to come up with? And I feel like you're standing outside the door. You can just walk out.

[Jeffrey]

I mean, use the waist. Wasted time the right way.

[Andrea]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

Or do you go with my personal favorite yes, Sorry I'm late. My pants were fighting me and frankly, they lost.

[Brooke]

What, because you don't have pants on?

[Jeffrey]

Exactly. Keep it mysterious and flirty so that she's wondering the whole time.

[Alexis]

Or you regretfully have them on.

[Brooke]

See, I don't know that I'm glad we're not doing textual healing right now. Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

The reason that I bring it all up all this lateness is because our buddy Kyle says he was late for his date the other day, and I want to know what he texted to her. Kyle, what was your line when you were late?

[Kyle]

I didn't really have a line. I kind of was just like, hey, sorry, I'm. I'm running late.

[Brooke]

Yeah, that's solid. That is great. Go with that. Kyle, are you sure you don't want

[Jeffrey]

to use the fighting pants line the next time? Because I will let you use it.

[Kyle]

I don't know, man. Maybe next time.

[Brooke]

Next time.

[Jeffrey]

He says women don't like a lot of communication, apparently, but it just doesn't need it.

[Jack]

All right.

[Alexis]

Also, if you think about it, you don't want to make a big deal. You're already late. You want to make it quick?

[Jeffrey]

I'll be right there. Okay.

[Brooke]

Are we breaking this up?

[Jeffrey]

You're done with questions? I had a questions for you. Tell us about your date.

[Brooke]

Oh, you get it.

[Jeffrey]

What was this lady's name that you met the other day?

[Kyle]

So her name's Ashley.

[Brooke]

Okay, Okay. I would ask where you met her, but I apparently am just really upset. Good.

[Jeffrey]

That's a terrible question. Go right to the date, Kyle.

[Kyle]

So I'll kind of introduce her through some mutual friends.

[Brooke]

Oh, cute.

[Kyle]

I hadn't met her yet. This is going to be our, like, first time meeting.

[Brooke]

So it's like an old fashioned blind date.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah.

[Jack]

Yeah.

[Kyle]

So we were supposed to go to dinner and then, you know, maybe pick up a movie. We didn't really have a clear plan, but it was Friday night and traffic was extremely bad.

[Brooke]

But wait, she devoted a Friday night date to you? That is already a good sign.

[Jeffrey]

Wait, why is Friday a good sign?

[Brooke]

You don't give up weekend nights for a Thursday.

[Jeffrey]

Friday is a weekend?

[Brooke]

No.

[Alexis]

Well, if it's a Tuesday afternoon date, Jeff, it's not hot.

[Jeffrey]

Gotcha. So Friday night you're saying traffic on the way was terrible?

[Kyle]

You know how some people when they get nervous, they like, shake their knee like they're like bumping it up and down? Yeah, I was doing that a lot. To the point where my shoe came off while I was driving. Like, I. I was extremely nervous.

[Alexis]

Your leg was having a panic attack

[Brooke]

while you were driving in. A shoe came off.

[Kyle]

I was freaking out. I didn't. I didn't want to be late, so I had to pull over to fix it. But when I pulled over, I guess my car was sticking out in the road too much and this guy that was honking at me and you know, I'm not the most patient person. So we got into a little bit of. I would call it a little bit of road rage.

[Brooke]

What?

[Kyle]

Really?

[Brooke]

Oh, no.

[Jeffrey]

This is all before you arrive to the date. This is explaining.

[Kyle]

This is all leading up to the date.

[Brooke]

Why you are not in a good mindset, my friend. You're a road rage guy.

[Jack]

Yeah.

[Kyle]

So I wouldn't say I'm a road rage guy to the point where I gabed the car and I'm screaming, but, you know, I'm yelling, I'm lifting up my shoe, being like, hey, all I'm trying to do is put this on.

[Jeffrey]

I'm trying to go, okay, well, now it looks like you're threatening the other driver.

[Brooke]

Now I'm really, really glad all you said to your date was, sorry I'm late. Yeah. Any more explanation of what just went down could have been a red flag for her.

[Kyle]

I'm trying, okay? I'm trying. I'm really trying my best. That's why I tried to keep it simple. But I was getting close to the restaurant, and I realized that my breath stuck. I had a little bit of garlic for lunch.

[Brooke]

So. Wait, now you have stinky breath, you're late, and you were just in a road rage incident?

[Kyle]

Yes, it has been a very long day.

[Jeffrey]

His date doesn't know any of that.

[Brooke]

Well, I understand. I'm just thinking of his mental state, walking into the restaurant.

[Jeffrey]

His mental state seems great.

[Brooke]

I'm thinking disheveled. Did you stop to get gum then?

[Kyle]

Yes. So I told her that I had to stop at the drugstore to get something. I didn't tell it was gum. I didn't want her to know.

[Jeffrey]

She probably thinks you're stopping to get prophylactics for the end of the day.

[Brooke]

Oh, I was thinking something worse, like an antibiotic for.

[Kyle]

Oh. Oh, yeah. No, I didn't tell her, but I. I did let her know. So I got there around, like, 25 to 30 minutes late.

[Alexis]

It's too late.

[Brooke]

And it sounds like you're doing errands instead of coming to meet her.

[Alexis]

If you say I'm stopping at the store, yeah.

[Brooke]

What was it like when you saw her?

[Kyle]

You could tell that she was a little annoyed, and I understand that because I. I would be too. But, you know, I apologize. She eventually kind of just like, rolled her eyes, made a joke about it, and we. We moved on.

[Brooke]

Okay, That's a good sign. So it sounds like things are getting back on track.

[Kyle]

Yeah, I mean, I ordered those both doubles when we got there because we both had a rough Day, everything seemed like it was gonna be okay, but as dinner started ending, like, I started realizing, like, she hasn't really brought up going back to her place anymore. And we talked about that a lot in the, in the text. So I was like, oh, yeah. I tried to, like, hint at it a little bit. I had a couple drinks, so, you know, I wasn't like in my best state of mind. So I tried to hint at it. I was like, wow, you know, it's so early. We can go and do whatever.

[Jeffrey]

I'm trying to get her to take the lead to be like, oh, let's do movies now.

[Kyle]

So you're saying yeah, yeah, exactly. I was like. I was like, oh, yeah, we could, like, go back to your place and watch a movie or, you know, this

[Alexis]

is why you plan Friday night meals. Last Friday night date was like, we'll have the date and if things go well, then maybe we can hang out after 2 because it's Friday.

[Kyle]

Exactly. Man. We had that whole conversation. Everything seemed like it was leading to that point. And then she hits me with, oh, you know, I'm a school teacher, so I have to grade papers. Oh,

[Brooke]

Friday night, late night, paper grading after a couple of drinks. Yeah. Did you believe that?

[Kyle]

No, of course I didn't believe that.

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Kyle]

It is a Friday night. You are here with me getting drinks on a Friday night. There's no way you're gonna go home and go, yeah, you know, I'm just gonna grade some of these.

[Alexis]

I'm just pre funking before the real party starts.

[Brooke]

Grading night.

[Jeffrey]

You're not a dedicated school teacher though, are you? Like, care.

[Brooke]

I'm wondering if she decided before she even saw you just because you're half an hour late. You come in, you do a bunch of apologies, like missing a shoe.

[Jeffrey]

You order a double shot the second you get in. I don't know why she wouldn't want to go out.

[Brooke]

I'm just wondering if she didn't give you the chance that maybe you were hoping for.

[Alexis]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah.

[Kyle]

And I mean, again, like, I understand, but I feel like I tried my best to, like, bring the conversation back. Our conversations there weren't bad. Like, it seemed like everything was. Was going well, but.

[Alexis]

Yeah, but when you're that late, you're starting in the hole.

[Kyle]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

The good news is we live in that hole so we can help. We know all the ways to get out of it. We're going to try and help you. We're going to call, we're going to try and get you your second date update. With Ashley right after this. Hold on.

[Andrea]

Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.

[Jeffrey]

If you're just joining us for the second date update, we've been talking to Kyle and here's the unfortunate thing that happened to him without any fault of his own. He was late. I would really like a bunch of.

[Brooke]

Yeah, well, it's like the shoe came off because he was nervous and he couldn't control it. And then he got in a fight with a guy.

[Jeffrey]

A few people in our studio do assume that he walked in looking disheveled and bloody and angry and immediately ordered himself a double shot.

[Brooke]

I don't know where he got bloody either, Alexis, but Jeff bloodied him up along the way.

[Alexis]

How bad is rush hour for you?

[Jeffrey]

So it's not a great look, but let's remember he did order her a double shot, too. Yeah, let's give him a little bit of credit.

[Brooke]

It was a double shot. I thought it was just a double drink.

[Kyle]

Well, it's the same thing.

[Jeffrey]

Guys.

[Brooke]

It is so impressive to come with shot glasses compared to coming with a golf shot margarita.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, fair point. You guys are right. But apparently there was some texting before the date about possibly hanging out afterwards. Maybe even to watch a movie at her place, which is something that she never brought up. Yeah, so was she turned off by his lateness or was it something else? That's our job to figure out and do whatever we can to help Kyle get another hangout.

[Brooke]

Yeah, we never even heard Kyle. Have you talked to her since the date?

[Kyle]

Oh, yeah, no. No, I haven't. I've been trying to get. Yeah, so I had. I had reached out. I didn't hear anything. So some of my friends had asked, how'd the date go?

[Brooke]

Oh, right.

[Jeffrey]

I was like, oh.

[Kyle]

I kind of told them what happened if they could, like, see if they could do any digging for me. And I never really heard anything back, so.

[Jeffrey]

That's the thing, man. You never talk to your friends about your dating life.

[Brooke]

You always set them up.

[Jeffrey]

No, always come to us first.

[Ashley]

Oh.

[Jeffrey]

We'll give you an honest opinion whether or not you're gonna like it.

[Brooke]

You know what?

[Jeffrey]

At all.

[Brooke]

Maybe she's still grading papers. It's just been a really busy school. She's so great.

[Alexis]

You don't want her because she's boring.

[Brooke]

No, I mean, she's a great teacher.

[Alexis]

Yeah, too good of a teacher, Bo.

[Jeffrey]

Exactly. So let's just call her. We'll see if she picks up and hopefully has some answers for us. But I'm going to dial her number right now. It's Ashley, right?

[Kyle]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, Ms. Ashley to you, Ms. Ashley. Okay, here we go.

[Andrea]

Hello?

[Jeffrey]

Hi, is this Ashley?

[Ashley]

Yep.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, hey, Ashley.

[Brooke]

Hi, Ashley.

[Alexis]

Good morning, Ashley.

[Jeffrey]

How you doing today, Ms. Ashley? Who is this? This is a radio show. We're called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning.

[Alexis]

Your favorite students.

[Ashley]

What is it?

[Jack]

Stupid?

[Jeffrey]

Sorry. No, you're on the radio right now.

[Ashley]

Okay.

[Jeffrey]

We're Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning and we're doing a segment called the Second Date Update.

[Alexis]

We're a morning show.

[Brooke]

I wish it was that teacher of the year segment that we do, but.

[Ashley]

Okay.

[Brooke]

I'm kidding. We don't do that.

[Ashley]

Okay, so what is this?

[Jeffrey]

See, this is a dating segment where we try to help out our listeners who've gone out with somebody. And afterwards, if they're not getting a call back, we try to help figure out the reason why. Okay, and you, according to our sources, went out with one of our listeners named Kyle recently.

[Brooke]

Our source is Kyle. Just so you know.

[Jeffrey]

Well, don't give away our sources.

[Ashley]

Yeah, what about it?

[Jeffrey]

Okay, well, Kyle had some really nice things to say about you and about your date.

[Ashley]

That's surprising. Okay.

[Brooke]

Oh, it's surprising that he enjoyed it

[Ashley]

or that he was talking about me and not himself?

[Brooke]

Oh, oh, wait, what do you mean?

[Alexis]

He was talking about you to us a lot?

[Jeffrey]

Because the thing is, Kyle isn't a hundred percent sure why you aren't meeting up a second time. He does acknowledge that he was late to the date and he.

[Ashley]

Okay, so he did tell you that. Okay, so, yeah, he's still on that. Okay. Yes, he was late. He was very late.

[Brooke]

Wait, he's still on that. What do you mean by that?

[Ashley]

I mean, before I even see this guy, I get three separate texts within like the 45 minutes late. He was always like, oh, I think I'm gonna be late. Sorry, I'm gonna be late.

[Kyle]

Whoop.

[Ashley]

Looks like I'm gonna be late. I was like, for the love of God.

[Jeffrey]

Well, hold on. Don't you like the communication to let you know?

[Ashley]

I mean, you can just say it once and give me an eta and then like, I can chill. It's just like the play by play was like not native unless I could see it.

[Brooke]

Sound like he was really nervous before the date and that he was really looking forward to it. So maybe he just overdid the communication because he. He felt bad.

[Jeffrey]

So was it already over even by the time that he just arrived at the restaurant?

[Ashley]

Not necessarily, but I mean, it's like

[Jeffrey]

all we talked about.

[Ashley]

He's like okay, so this happened in my shoe. And then the guy, like, the drugstore. And I'm like, oh, my God. I'm like, okay, okay. Are we going to, like. Are we going to go on a date? Are we just going to, like, recap the reason you were late to this day in the first place?

[Alexis]

So you were already trying to move on, though.

[Ashley]

That's a no, 100%. I understand. Things happen. You can be late. But then that's, like, all. I mean, you guys. He was, like, stopping the waiter. I was like, finally. I'm freaking starving. Like, let's order something. He's like, no, no. I'll give us 15 minutes. I got to talk to her. And then just, like, went on and on about the lateness. And I'm like, can I get a taco? Like, please.

[Jeffrey]

But.

[Brooke]

Okay, wait, wait. Like, what if he was just nervous, you know?

[Alexis]

Like, he. He messed up and he knows it.

[Ashley]

It almost feels like he planned this to have, like, subject matter to talk about on the date.

[Brooke]

Well, it is being late at the shoe. Just. So he had conversation.

[Ashley]

He was like, this could be interesting. It made him feel like I felt crazy. I was like, can we do. Can you talk about anything else?

[Brooke]

Oh, my God.

[Alexis]

It's like he's creating a date story.

[Brooke]

He did tell us the whole story, but only once. He only told us once.

[Ashley]

He loves the story. It's his favorite story. I can't believe he called the radio to tell it again.

[Jeffrey]

Maybe we can hear one more time when we bring him on right now, because he is on the other line. He really is. He's there listening and hoping to talk to you. Kyle, you there?

[Kyle]

Hi, Ashley.

[Ashley]

What's up?

[Jack]

Kyle?

[Kyle]

Hi. You know.

[Ashley]

How you doing?

[Kyle]

I totally understand what you're saying. Like, I get it. I didn't really mean to, but I just wanted you to know, like, it really was a crazy situation. Like, I was driving. I really didn't know, like, what else to do because I was. I was just nervous. My shoe fell off.

[Ashley]

Like, did you get that part?

[Jeffrey]

Which foot. Which foot was the shoe on?

[Andrea]

Don't encourage him, Kyle.

[Brooke]

Don't tell the story again.

[Kyle]

Okay? Okay, okay. Yes, Ashley, I get it. I repeated it a lot of times. But, like, you do understand how crazy of a story it is, though? Like,

[Andrea]

what I'm telling you is the

[Ashley]

only thing I don't want you to talk about.

[Kyle]

The lady at the store, she's.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, you guys, let's call time out on the conversation. There's a lot going on here, and I Want to save some of Kyle's story for the side podcasts that we do with Brooke, Alexis, and Jose?

[Brooke]

Yeah, that's just the show. Yeah, we just do a shoe story podcast.

[Jeffrey]

Clearly. Clearly. Ashley, he was very, very flustered by the journey over to meet up with you on the date, and he felt like it was important to at least get it out there to explain himself.

[Ashley]

He's literally still doing it.

[Brooke]

I know, but I think it's because he's defensive.

[Jeffrey]

And more importantly, it's because he likes you.

[Kyle]

You. Yeah. And, you know, I. I was just really looking forward to going back to your house, you know, watching that movie. And, you know, maybe we could have ended up doing something, like, later on that night. Like, I was really just looking.

[Ashley]

How could we even do stuff? All you're gonna keep doing is talking about this.

[Jack]

I. I swear I'm flustered.

[Ashley]

Dude, I like it. It's a wrap. Like, what are we doing on the radio?

[Jeffrey]

Okay, well, what we're doing is we're going to offer to send you out on another day date with Kyle.

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

But I'm assuming you're probably too busy grading, like, school papers, and you don't have a lot of free time in

[Brooke]

your schedule, which, by the way.

[Ashley]

Oh, no, no, I'm.

[Kyle]

I'm good.

[Ashley]

I'm. I'm completely free, but I just don't

[Jack]

want to talk about.

[Brooke]

Dude, that was such a cold excuse not to hang out with him again.

[Jack]

Yeah, y'.

[Kyle]

All.

[Ashley]

What else was I supposed to do? He was killing me. I'm like. At least, like, I have, Like, I have an actual thing to do that's, like, a job. Maybe he would, like, release me from the torture.

[Brooke]

I'm sorry, Kyle. I didn't mean to laugh. It's just, she has very clear boundaries of what she wants, and that's. That's respectable.

[Ashley]

But I don't. I just want to have a meal I don't like. That's not a huge boundary.

[Kyle]

Okay, okay, Ashley, I get it. I get it. I get it. You didn't want me to recap, but you're talking about this meal, the meal, the meal, the meal, the meal, all the time. That's not your recapping.

[Ashley]

Are you out of your mind?

[Jeffrey]

I mean, it does have a point.

[Kyle]

I'm just saying, you were talking about recapping, and now we're recapping this whole thing about how I didn't talk about,

[Ashley]

like, Revere.

[Brooke]

Let's end this.

[Jeffrey]

I mean, the love is exploding out of the phone lines right now, so we send you out one more time. Last chance, I think.

[Brooke]

End the story, Jeff. Yeah. The story's over.

[Jack]

Okay.

[Ashley]

Goodbye, radio people.

[Brooke]

Miss Ashley.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, man. Kyle, Dude, I'm sorry, man.

[Kyle]

Well, to be honest, good riddance. Because I need. I need someone with a larger attention span who can at least like, entertain what's going on here, you know what I'm saying? Like, I'm being. I'm being told that I'm just doing too much and then she's doing the exact same thing.

[Brooke]

I don't think you picked up what she was saying. Maybe tell the story like your mom. Maybe she'd like to hear.

[Kyle]

I understand what she was saying, but I don't feel like she was understanding what I was saying. Okay.

[Brooke]

She understood so much, bro.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, but take us back to this traffic light. Okay. Go back to the shoe because I'm still curious.

[Kyle]

I mean, if you actually want to know, I can tell you.

[Bowen Yang]

No. Good.

[Jeffrey]

Keep going.

[Andrea]

Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.

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You know I felt bad for Kyle because he definitely wanted the whole world to hear about his harrowing story on the way to the date.

[Brooke]

Yes.

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And in his defense, a lot of dating is talking about things that happen to you in your life, maybe different

[Brooke]

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But I can also understand his date's perspective. She doesn't want to rehash the details over and over and hear how the sausage was made. She just literally wants to eat sausage.

[Brooke]

We were set up for, like, failure from the beginning. I mean, all we did was rehash what happened. I mean, that's the whole point of the segment, is to rehash what happened on the date, which is exactly the last thing she wanted to hear.

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Feel even more against it, so. Oh, man.

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Still don't really understand the sausage thing, but.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, but she didn't want to hear why he was late.

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She wanted a taco, Jeff.

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Yeah, exactly.

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She just wanted.

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