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All right, you're here. You're doing it. It's back to back classics today. It is your little Saturday treat. Just a lot of second dates. Here we go. Here we go. Thank you for finding the podcast. It's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning, and you did find the official one, so we appreciate it.
Alexis
Can confirm.
Brooke
Oh, yeah.
Jeffrey
Can confirm. All right, what do we got in comments, Alexis?
Alexis
Yeah, Hannah Vernon said, I had a dream about you guys last night. Must be a sign I'm listening to you too much at night. And in the mornings before work, my house was an Airbnb and you guys were my guests. Surprisingly, it didn't turn out horribly.
Brooke
I'd probably be locked in my room the whole time playing video games.
Jeffrey
Yeah, I feel like you'd be good. I'd probably, like, take out your garb.
Alexis
Oh, wow. I'm throwing the party so you could
Samantha
take off my garbage.
Brooke
Yeah, Alexis would be the problem.
Alexis
And Jeff's.
Jeffrey
What?
Alexis
I don't even know. Outside bird watching, Jeff wouldn't show up.
Brooke
He'd miss the email.
Alexis
That's true.
Jeffrey
Exactly. So you guys were hanging out.
Brooke
That was last weekend.
Jeffrey
Why didn't you text me?
Alexis
We did. We could probably trick him into paying for it and never notice the charge.
Jeffrey
Yeah, that's a good point, Alexis. All right, here is your back to back classic, starting right now.
Jeff
This isn't my opinion, but I've read that certain professions are just considered red flags in the dating world.
Brooke
Yeah, I can see that.
Jeff
Like musicians, politicians, volunteer male tooth fairies who hang out by the orthodontist office.
Brooke
Wait, what the heck?
Jeffrey
That should also Be your opinion too, Jeff. That's a pretty big red flag.
Brooke
Yeah.
Jeffrey
Oh, wait, you're the.
Jeff
I heard somebody just got their molar pole bucks for it.
Brooke
Oh, my gosh.
Jeff
You know, you shouldn't date that guy, but for some reason, you. You just can't resist.
Jeffrey
Am I still on drugs from the wizard teeth or is this real?
Jeff
One of our listeners couldn't stop herself when she met a guy while he was working at his red flag job, and she decided against her best interest to just go for it. Anyway, now here she is on our morning show looking to paint that red flag green.
Alexis
Please don't be the fairy.
Jeff
You'll find out who it is coming up in your second date update.
Podcast Announcer
Next, Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Second date update.
Jeff
You know, back in the swinging 90s, they had a saying. You can drink with your bartender, you can cry with your bartender, you can even laugh with your bartender, but never ever hook up with your bartender.
Jeffrey
What?
Jeff
Unless you don't have any money at the end of the night, and that's considered the tip.
Jeffrey
God, if only I'd have been drinking ages in the 90s, I would have known this.
Jeff
Well, one of our listeners desperately wants to break that old ninet rule because she is interested in the hunk who was pouring out the libations.
Jeffrey
Oh, no.
Jeff
How did she get to that point? We're about to find out. Let's talk to Tiffany. Tiffany, welcome to the show.
Tiffany
Hi. Thank you for having me.
Jeffrey
Oh, goodness. Bartenders just kind of notorious on the dating scene.
Alexis
And that makes you want them more.
Jeffrey
I know.
Podcast Announcer
God.
Jeffrey
And you've had a couple, so they look even cuter.
Jeff
All the girls seem to know what you're talking about, Tiffany. But fill the rest of us. And what happened with you and this guy that you met? What's his name?
Tiffany
His name's Kevin.
Jeffrey
Okay, Kevin.
Dave
Okay.
Jeffrey
And is he like the bartender at a place you go to or did you guys meet on an app?
Samantha
No.
Tiffany
So I was actually at this charity event. It was at a hotel, like in one of their big ballroom.
Jeffrey
Okay.
Jeff
Look at you. Fancy going to hotels and giving back to society. Wow.
Brooke
You know, anybody can rent, you can get a ticket.
Dave
Oh, anybody can.
Jeffrey
I host a lot of these events. You're more than welcome to come with me, Jeff.
Brooke
A lot of charity events are ran.
Jeff
I don't know, they just don't sound as fun when Brooke hosts.
Brooke
Okay. Oh, wow.
Jeff
Anyway, I bet you went to a really cool one, Tiffany.
Tiffany
It was really cool. And I think Brooks would be cool too.
Brooke
Thank you but this one was cool because Brooke wasn't there.
Jeff
Yeah, Brooke wasn't hosting this one.
Jeffrey
Was he the bartender there?
Tiffany
He was, yeah. It was a catered event, so they had him as the bartender.
Jeffrey
Oh, cool.
Brooke
That's always good.
Jeffrey
I always feel so bad for the bartenders during those things because the lines get so backed up.
Jeff
You know, maybe the events that you host, but I'm sure this one was actually well organized.
Alexis
Okay, Jeff.
Brooke
Usually they have, like, one bartender, though. You're right for the whole place.
Jeffrey
I mean, how did you find time to, like, strike up a conversation with him?
Tiffany
I made time.
Samantha
I kept going back.
Alexis
Way to pay attention to the charity event.
Brooke
So you'd, like, get your drink and just go right back to the back of the line?
Tiffany
Well, I would give it a solid three minutes in between.
Jeff
Make him wait a little bit.
Jeffrey
He's like, I love a raging alcoholic.
Dave
Yeah.
Jeff
If you're doing it every three minutes, you must have gotten kind of toasted.
Tiffany
Yeah, one would think. But no, I didn't want to be sloppy, so I would just take the drink and, like, pour it into a planter or just set it on someone's
Jeff
table, take, like, two sips of it,
Brooke
and then discard it.
Jeff
Oh, don't waste that.
Jeffrey
I think it's genius.
Brooke
Well, it's good. Yeah, because you don't want to get sloppy. Drum. New crush of yours, and you're like,
Jeffrey
I got to get another drink for my friend. Yeah.
Jeff
Were you able to strike up, like, a flirtation with him when you were ordering?
Tiffany
Yeah, and it got better every time. That's why I kept going back.
Jeffrey
Oh. So were you able to turn this into something more?
Tiffany
Well, he actually is the one that took the initiative in my. Who knows how many times. Ninth time, whatever.
Samantha
That I went up.
Dave
Oh, my God.
Tiffany
He asked if I was doing anything after the event. Oh, no, I'm totally free. But I actually. I, like, literally had friends waiting for me. I had plans afterward, but I just canceled.
Brooke
They'll understand. I mean, come on. It's a big deal.
Jeffrey
It does.
Tiffany
It makes sense for me.
Jeffrey
Yeah, of course.
Jeff
Wow. So he initiated a date that same night?
Tiffany
Yeah.
Jeffrey
Did you. Did you read it as a date or just, like, a hookup? You know what I mean? Like, I always feel like if it's, like, the same night, she never said
Jeff
anything about them being intimate with each other. I don't know why you jumped straight
Jeffrey
to them hooking up. The invite is like, it's late at night. Let's hang out.
Brooke
Now, I know you've Been drinking? Yes, I've been serving.
Podcast Announcer
Exactly.
Jeff
And what that means that they have to get together if the sun is down. And that's why he's been consumed.
Tiffany
Yeah.
Jeffrey
The odds are high. And that's what his intention is?
Tiffany
Well, no, we didn't hook up or anything like that.
Jeffrey
Okay.
Tiffany
I didn't get that vibe either. I just got that we were flirting and interested in each other, you know?
Jeff
Okay.
Brooke
It's also good that he's not trying to take advantage of you or something.
Jeffrey
Yeah.
Brooke
You know, like.
Jeff
Yeah. So that's good.
Brooke
You guys just hung out.
Jeff
Where'd you guys go?
Tiffany
Oh, gosh, we went to a bar.
Jeffrey
Oh.
Brooke
Well, he hasn't had any drinks yet, probably.
Tiffany
Yeah.
Jeffrey
Yeah, Right.
Alexis
Okay.
Jeffrey
Unless he's a bad bartender.
Dave
Okay.
Jeff
How's that?
Tiffany
I think one thing that was sweet was, like, I personally really like video games. I've always liked video games. I'm a big switch player. And so he just seemed kind of surprised by that because he likes video games, too. But I think he plays a lot with his guy friends, and so that was sweet. He seemed genuinely taken aback by that. Huh.
Brooke
In a good way.
Jeffrey
And it seems like an easy transition into the next date. Like, the next date. Wouldn't you just then play video games together?
Brooke
That's a good idea, because you could put the switch on the TV or
Jeff
have it handheld before we get to the. The next date. How did this one end?
Tiffany
We had a nice hug. And no, like I said, like, no kissing, no hooking up. Nothing like that. But I'm just kind of at this point waiting on him to make a move.
Jeffrey
But he made the first move. Maybe he's waiting on you.
Tiffany
I guess I didn't really think about it that way. I don't know.
Brooke
Does this count as your move? Like, we could. This could be your move bulletin. Hey, I got a radio station to call you Big boy.
Jeffrey
Yeah, maybe I'll call him Big boy.
Jeff
We're gonna use those exact words when you do that.
Brooke
Came out weird. I'm sorry. I'm not used to talking to guys,
Jeff
but this will be our chance to reach out. Like, how long has it been since you last hung out with him?
Tiffany
Been, like, four or five days. Okay.
Jeffrey
Okay.
Jeff
And has there been, like, texts or calls exchanged between you two?
Samantha
No.
Tiffany
Nothing crazy. And I have other guys that I can spend time with, you know? Okay.
Jeffrey
I don't know that we needed to brag right there, but, yeah, don't tell him.
Brooke
Not out of nowhere.
Jeffrey
I'm.
Tiffany
I'm saying that because I Know, like four or five days. Doesn't sound like a long time, but I'm kind of holding out for him.
Jeffrey
Oh, I see everybody else is on pause, so.
Jeff
Okay.
Brooke
Yeah, I just want to make sure
Jeff
that we get this straight. So you haven't reached out to him at all? He hasn't reached out to you? This is going to be the first time that you guys have talked since then, right?
Brooke
Oh, so it's not like he's ghosting you or not answering, huh?
Jeffrey
It's a bold move.
Brooke
Yeah, it's a bold move.
Jeffrey
Jeff and I like it.
Jeff
It puts all the pressure on us, which I don't necessarily like, but we can do it. That's what we signed up for.
Jeffrey
We're gonna bartender. He's used to weird things.
Jeff
Yeah, sure. We'll see how. How cool with it he is when we come back. Call him and try and get you a second date with Kevin the bartender. Coming up right after this.
Podcast Announcer
Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Second date update.
Jeff
If you're just tuning in, not sure the word bar could have been mentioned more during the meetup with one of our listeners, Tiffany, that she had with the guy because she was at a catered event with an open bar, met the bartender, Kevin.
Jeffrey
Absolutely.
Jeff
They had some sidebar conversation later, left that bar and bar, hopped to a different bar.
Jeffrey
Oh, the bar was set high, Jeffrey.
Jeff
It really was very high. And barring anything bad that happened that night, she wants to get back together with him. And while I was thinking about all that, I had a Hershey bar in the other room. So the weird part is this is gonna be the very first contact the two of them have had since that night. There's been no missed calls, no texts, no Snapchats, nothing.
Brooke
That's what's weird.
Jeff
It's been five days.
Jeffrey
Are you feeling okay about us being the first people to call?
Tiffany
Yeah, I mean, I. I asked you to.
Jeffrey
Yeah, that's a good point. It's a good point.
Jeff
If you talk to us for five or six minutes, you could have some regrets by now.
Tiffany
Nah, I think it'll be cool.
Jeffrey
Okay.
Podcast Announcer
All right.
Brooke
I do too.
Jeffrey
He's either gonna be impressed or he is gonna be kind of overwhelmed.
Alexis
Like, why didn't you just text me?
Jeffrey
Yeah, we can handle both of those situations.
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Jeff
You know, we'll let Brooke handle it, though. The rest of us are just gonna sit back.
Jeffrey
I mean, bartenders usually don't know our show because they work late.
Brooke
Yeah, exactly.
Jeff
You know, I'm not even gonna ask that question. I'm Just gonna call him, and we'll see if he first answers the phone and then see if he has anything to say.
Alexis
Okay.
Jeff
You ready?
Tiffany
Yeah.
Jeff
All righty.
Kevin
Hello?
Jeff
Hey, is this Kevin?
Kevin
Yeah. Who's this?
Jeff
And my name is Jeff from a radio show you probably have never heard of before called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning.
Jeffrey
Hey, we do a podcast, too, so maybe you've heard of that. Kevin?
Kevin
No, I can't say I have.
Jeff
Thanks for crushing our dreams. Okay.
Dave
Sorry.
Kevin
What are you doing on my phone?
Jeff
Well, we were.
Kevin
How many people are on the phone?
Jeff
There's a whole show here. Really? Four of us are in the room. We're doing a segment right now called A Second Date Update, and that's where we try and help our listeners reconnect with someone that they met or went out with recently and aren't getting another date yet.
Kevin
Oh, okay. And I'm involved in this? Yeah.
Jeffrey
Somebody likes you.
Kevin
Oh, okay.
Jeff
Is that shocking to you? A lot of people that like you.
Kevin
I mean, I get a lot of attention, but nothing really sticks around very long.
Jeffrey
Usually it's a pleasant surprise. I would assume somebody does want to
Jeff
stick around for a while. Her name is Tiffany.
Jeffrey
He made. He made more. He meets a lot of people.
Jeff
Sorry. Well, you met her at a charity event.
Kevin
No, I know exactly who you're talking about.
Brooke
Okay, good.
Jeff
Oh, you do?
Brooke
I was like, I don't think we know her last name. So this May.
Jeff
Yeah.
Brooke
Okay, good. You remember her?
Kevin
I. Yeah, I do.
Jeff
What'd you think?
Kevin
Yeah.
Samantha
Yeah, I don't.
Kevin
I don't think it's for me.
Jeff
Oh, it. Yikes.
Dave
Yeah.
Jeffrey
He means the relationship.
Jeff
I think.
Jeffrey
I think he means, like, the connection.
Kevin
That came out really wrong. That came out wrong. She was great. I was really into her. I got excited thinking, you know, maybe we could start dating casually or something.
Jeffrey
Oh, wow.
Brooke
Yeah.
Jeffrey
I mean, you had those thoughts, like, that same night you're hanging out, having drinks at a bar.
Kevin
Yeah, we had a really great time, and I kind of got a little invested a little bit, and.
Jeff
Well, I don't understand, because you. According to her, at least there, you haven't called her or texted her or reached out at all in the last few days.
Kevin
No, that's because I. Okay, so we had a good time, and then we said our goodbyes, and as I'm sitting in the parking lot in my car, I was like, let me see who this girl is. So I hopped on social media and I looked her up.
Tiffany
Okay.
Kevin
And she's in a relationship.
Jeff
Like, what?
Kevin
She's got Like a serious guy.
Jeffrey
Are you sure you have the right Tiffany?
Kevin
Yeah, it's her photos. Yeah.
Brooke
Are they recent photos?
Kevin
Yes, they're very recent. Some guy named Dirk. All the comments, very supportive of their relationship.
Jeffrey
But it just doesn't make sense. Like why? Like, if you're trying to cheat, you wouldn't call a radio show and have them do a second date. You know what I mean?
Brooke
Yeah, obviously you're gonna get discovered.
Kevin
I have no idea what's going on with her. You'll have to ask her because I'm just as confused.
Jeffrey
Okay, well, that is kind of crazy.
Jeff
Per your requ. Just ask her right now because she is on the other line as we speak wanting to talk to you.
Kevin
Oh, don't tell her boyfriend.
Jeff
Yeah. Tiffany.
Kevin
Awkward. Excuse me.
Tiffany
In this so called relationship post that you saw, did you see his face in any of the pictures?
Jeffrey
What?
Kevin
I really don't even know. I can't remember. All I know is you were hugging on some guy and there were a dozen or more comments under it. They were like, oh, congratulations.
Jeffrey
And wait, you're in a new relationship?
Kevin
This is a week ago.
Jeffrey
I know, but if people are saying congratulations, that means you just got a boyfriend. Yeah.
Alexis
Also, who comments? Congrats about a relationship.
Brooke
Everybody does. What do you mean?
Alexis
Really?
Brooke
I'm in a relationship?
Jeff
Just no one to like the relationships you
Samantha
thumbs down.
Jeffrey
Alexis is just commenting on her friends with one of the puke emojis.
Jeff
Sorry. What's going on with this post with you and Dirk? Is that a thing?
Tiffany
Like you guys are all jumping to conclusions. That's okay. It's not an official relationship. We are just soft launching it right now.
Jeffrey
Oh my God.
Kevin
I don't understand. What. What is she doing?
Samantha
You don't know?
Tiffany
Soft launching, soft launching.
Jeffrey
That still means you're in a relationship. It means that you just don't want to announce it yet. Like you're not ready to like reveal who it is.
Jeff
Well, she announced it on their social media.
Alexis
What she did is not a soft launch.
Kevin
I'm so confused.
Tiffany
His face is not in the photos. There's no start date to it. It's just a soft launch. It's not official.
Kevin
Is he your boyfriend or like a DJ going on tour? I don't understand.
Jeffrey
She's actually seen a restaurant that hasn't opened officially yet.
Kevin
I don't understand this.
Jeff
Okay, I think a lot of people are confused. Tiffany, can you like explain? Talk to Kevin a little bit, tell him what's going on.
Tiffany
Okay. Hi.
Brooke
That's a good start.
Jeffrey
Okay.
Kevin
Hi.
Tiffany
What you saw is not an official relationship. I would not be pursuing you if I was in an official relationship. We are just soft launching right now. It's very casual and I would prefer to maybe like two, three weeks or something stop launch with you. Oh, you're the top of my list.
Alexis
Well, if you never show their face,
Jeffrey
you can replace them with anybody.
Brooke
I guess.
Kevin
I have no idea what she's talking about. It's how are you in a relationship and not in one?
Jeff
Well, it's like when a movie does like a pre screening to like a small audience before they officially release it to the world, it's not actually released.
Brooke
I did see a girl lately on social media post a heart over a guy's face and then the day they hard launch or whatever it's called, weeks later, then she released his face.
Jeffrey
This is what happens with too many people take marketing classes at college.
Kevin
You are caught on.
Brooke
We're gonna reveal the product coming up next week.
Jeff
Tiffany, I have a question. Does Durk know he's been soft launched and not actually in a relationship?
Jeffrey
Does Dirk know that you're talking to other dudes?
Tiffany
That's none of Dirk's business.
Brooke
Wait, what? Yes, it is. He's in a relationship.
Tiffany
No, he is not in a relationship. He's in a soft launch phase.
Jeff
Oh, okay.
Alexis
I don't think she's using it right.
Jeff
Well, besides, in her mind, this is
Tiffany
how dating works now. And Kevin, I'm honest, surprised you're a bartender. Like this is your world.
Jeffrey
Yeah, Kevin, who knew that Tiffany would
Brooke
be the red flag?
Jeff
So. But what you're saying is between Kevin and Dirk, you would prefer to be with Kevin?
Tiffany
Yeah, I think so. I think it would kind of depend on how the soft launch with Kevin goes. And just like the feedback I get on it.
Jeffrey
Oh my God.
Brooke
You're gonna do a comparison.
Alexis
How many are on your Insta page?
Jeffrey
You are a follower, don't you? I want his count followers.
Brooke
You may Sol.
Jeff
We might get one more soft launch if Kevin, you'll agree to go out with Tiffany one more time. And we would pay for it.
Jeffrey
I mean, it's almost a competition. Kevin, can you get more likes than Dirk? That's what she wants.
Kevin
You know, I don't know. I'm gonna have to think about this. Maybe she could send me her business plan and I could evaluate it.
Jeffrey
Are you. Is that a joke? Are you being serious? I think he's joking.
Kevin
I'm joking. Okay, this sounds insane to me.
Jeff
Okay, well, I guess yes. I'm sorry, Tiffany. Kevin doesn't want a soft launch with you.
Brooke
Yeah, or a date.
Dave
Right.
Jeffrey
But you still have Dirk.
Tiffany
Yeah.
Brooke
Yeah, good old Dirk.
Jeffrey
Yep.
Tiffany
Yeah. You know, I'm gonna unveil his elbow and his foot next week.
Brooke
Moving fast.
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Brooke
Yeah, I think we at least all learned what a soft launch is.
Jeffrey
No, but a soft launch is still a relationship that's the thing. It's just not like Instagram official yet.
Jeff
I think Tiffany's definition of a soft launch is different from most other people's definition, including Dirk's. My guys, she thought it was. Was like, no big deal. Everybody should know who she's casually dating right now. All of her friends know. Dirk doesn't because, quote, it's none of his business, even though it's his relationship he's in. But thanks to social media now there's like way more steps between your first hangout and actually becoming official with that person you like. First you got a soft launch, then you flex launch, then firm launch, then you finally hard launch when you get married.
Jeffrey
I don't know. That's a.
Brooke
Or do you not and think twice
Alexis
before you like any posts? Because now it means a lot.
Jeffrey
I know.
Brooke
It's like a boat.
Tiffany
Yeah.
Jeffrey
Yeah. It's exhausting.
Tiffany
I know.
Jeff
I'm exhausted.
Jeffrey
This is harder than like launching your own business. You might as well be an entrepreneur. You can figure this out.
Jeff
You're going to need all the help that you can get with your relationship. So let us be those people to step in and help you. We'll call the person who isn't calling you back. Just shoot us an email at Brooke and Jeffrey.
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Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
Jeff
In dating, you gotta be upfront. And one of our listeners warned her date that there was one thing he had to do before their evening could officially start. It sounded so off the walls extreme. He thought she must have been joking until he showed up at her door and realized, oh my God, she's 100% serious. And none of us could believe he actually agreed to go through with it before they even went out. You're going to hear what happened in your second date update right after this.
Podcast Announcer
Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning second date update.
Jeff
Some people have caveats in order to date them where it's like, I'm attracted to you. Our vibe is really good. But if you want to go out with me.
Jeffrey
Yeah.
Jeff
This one little thing needs to happen first before I can say yes. Like, for me personally, I can only go out with you if you let my mom dress you for the date because, well, even though I don't want her to be a part of my love life, she does insist I don't date people who dress too trampy. I don't want to upset my mother with the people that I date.
Starbucks Narrator
That's just.
Jeff
Just my one thing. And then we're good.
Dave
Yeah.
Jeffrey
That made you so attractive, right? I'm sure Sentence was really dating.
Brooke
Life is crazy.
Jeff
One of our listeners has an important caveat that she says is an instant deal breaker if the guy says no. And I'm interested to hear what this is. So, Samantha, welcome to the show. We want to know what your caveat is.
Jeffrey
Ooh, we starting right at the top. I love it.
Samantha
Yeah. My caveat is I drug test test the guys before I go out with them.
Brooke
Did you say a drug test?
Alexis
You sound fun.
Brooke
What are you, like a parole officer?
Jeffrey
What are you looking for?
Samantha
So I have a serious job I like. I, you know, I'm kind of a serious person, and I don't want to mess or waste my time on somebody who's doing stupid stuff.
Jeff
Oh, you want the test to come back negative?
Brooke
Yeah.
Samantha
Interesting.
Jeff
I was like, oh, it's not positive. We're not hanging out.
Brooke
And our drug test work here at the radio.
Jeff
Gotcha.
Dave
Okay.
Jeff
Interesting.
Jeffrey
And men actually agree to do this for you?
Samantha
Generally, it's fine. Yeah, they don't tend to have an issue with it.
Brooke
I mean, I guess if you don't do anything, you'd be like, okay, is it like you.
Alexis
Someone else's.
Brooke
I mean, yeah, that's what I would do.
Jeffrey
Hard drugs or fun drugs?
Alexis
What are you looking for?
Brooke
Anything.
Jeffrey
I mean, I think there's a difference.
Jeff
There's no such thing as fun, Brooke. That's not fair.
Samantha
Definitely looking for just, like, no drugs, I guess.
Starbucks Narrator
Okay.
Brooke
No.
Samantha
Also, yeah, obviously they could, like, get somebody's pee or whatever, so. No, we do it at a. At my apartment when they come pick me up.
Jeff
Okay, so clearly this must have happened with your date that you're going to be telling us about here.
Samantha
That is correct.
Jeffrey
Can we just have one more question? Are they given a heads up before they get to the apartment, or is it a surprise drug test?
Samantha
Well, for example, like, with the guy that we're talking about right now. We were chatting on Bumble for a couple days or whatever, and I did mention, like, hey, I'd like to go out with you. Yeah, but this is my one caveat.
Tiffany
Right?
Samantha
And he just kind of like, lol.
Jeffrey
Thought it was a joke maybe, but
Tiffany
he was like, okay, I could see
Brooke
that being a joke. Like, by the way, I'm going to drug test you when you get here.
Jeff
Okay, so what's this guy's name, by the way?
Tiffany
Dave.
Jeffrey
Dave.
Jeff
Okay, so Dave laughed when you suggested it.
Jeffrey
Then at the door. What happened?
Jeff
Yeah, what happened when you actually met him?
Samantha
Yeah, Well, I mean, gave him a hug, invited him in for a drink. And was just like, hey, remember I mentioned drug test? Can you give me a sample?
Jeff
So what was his reaction?
Samantha
He was, like, shocked. Like, didn't think I was serious. Like, yes. Yes, I am.
Jeff
You mean, most of your dates don't start this way, Dave. So that's weird.
Jeffrey
So what did he do? Did he do it?
Samantha
I mean, he looks a little weird, but he did. He went and did it. Like one of those, like, from CVS or whatever.
Brooke
Yeah.
Jeffrey
Do you know immediately whether he's on drugs?
Samantha
Pretty much, yeah. I mean, it comes back, like, 10, 15 minutes. You just have to wait for the stick to, like, tell you the colors. Of what, in his pee?
Jeffrey
I guess so it's only within. Like, if you've done drugs recently you don't know about.
Jeff
Yeah.
Alexis
You clear it out. Yeah.
Brooke
What happens if it comes up positive? Do you immediately not do the date? I didn't even think of it.
Kalpen
That's the whole point.
Samantha
If it comes up positive, he's out the door.
Jeffrey
Oh, my God. So are you just sitting in your living room waiting in silence, like, what is that? What is that time period like, you
Samantha
know, getting to know each other? I try and make a joke about it, like, try and have a normal time, and then I go back in the bathroom and see, and it's negative.
Brooke
That would be awkward combo.
Jeff
Let's not get to know each other
Brooke
too well in case you leave after this. But what are your interests?
Jeff
So just the fact that you want us to reach out to Dave must mean that it came back negatively.
Samantha
Yeah. So then, I mean, we went to dinner. He seemed a little, I don't know, rigid or something. Maybe a little weirded out.
Jeffrey
He's out with a narc.
Jeff
How did he seem? Rigid.
Samantha
He was just making weird kind of jokes or, like, offhanded comments. You know, at one point I was like, what do you do for the weekend? What's your hobbies? Or whatever. And he's like, not drug stuff.
Jeff
It's kind of funny, but also kind of suspicious.
Brooke
Or he could have been like, I do tons of drugs. That would also have been funny.
Jeffrey
It sounds like he's having a hard time getting over that initial drug test.
Brooke
The shock.
Dave
Okay.
Kalpen
Yeah.
Samantha
And, I mean, he did also call me the FBI of Bumble.
Jeffrey
Okay, well.
Jeff
But it's cute to establish nicknames early on in the relationship, so maybe we could look at that as a good.
Tiffany
Okay.
Jeffrey
Was there any flirting?
Tiffany
There was flirting.
Samantha
I feel like we had a good connection otherwise, like, when we were talking about other things. But he did seem to Kind of
Tiffany
go back to that a little bit.
Jeff
But here's the big question. Was there a kiss?
Samantha
There was not a kiss. There was a hug and he said
Tiffany
he would call me and we'd go
Samantha
out again and then nothing.
Jeffrey
It's a different type of test before the kiss happens.
Samantha
Yeah, definitely a different type of test before the bed happens. Yeah.
Jeff
Oh, well, at least you're thinking of that. So it sounds like he couldn't recover
Brooke
from the test, but, like, why? Like, he passed it.
Tiffany
That's the thing.
Jeffrey
I think the more you sit with it, probably the stranger it starts to feel like maybe you take it and then you're just like, why did I. What did I just do?
Alexis
Or if you're into that stuff, like you don't want to date someone who's not.
Dave
I don't know.
Brooke
I mean, simple as that.
Jeff
Not to mention it was a huge surprise to him. He wasn't expecting to actually have to provide a sample in front of her on the first time that they met. So what's happening happened since that date ended? How long has it been?
Samantha
It's been about a week. I guess. I waited a couple days for him to contact me, and then I did reach out like two days ago. Just texted him like, hey, it was great meeting you. I'd love to see you again, or whatever. And I haven't heard anything.
Jeffrey
It's important that she gets a hold of him. There's not many men that can pass that test.
Jeff
Yeah, so big deal.
Jeffrey
Yeah.
Jeff
So let's call this guy in a couple of minutes here. We'll find out what he has to say. I can't imagine. I mean, you've already tested his pee. Like it's. I don't know what base that would be in romance terms. Fifth, sixth base, I think.
Jeffrey
It's not in the ballpark.
Kevin
Okay.
Brooke
No, it is.
Jeff
It's in the alleyway behind the ballpark.
Jeffrey
Maybe.
Jeff
Okay, yeah, but we're gonna get whatever his answer is when we call and come back. Get your second date update right after this. Hold on.
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Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Second date update.
Jeff
I can already picture the wedding vows when Dave is up on that altar and says, samantha, from the moment you pulled out that. That six ounce plastic cup and asked me to provide you a sample, I knew you were the one.
Brooke
Oh, man, just tears everywhere.
Jeffrey
Nothing says love like a urine test.
Jeff
Yeah, you know, we're not exaggerating either. Samantha actually has a rule that she cannot date anyone who uses drugs because of her job. It's not allowed. And Be damaging to her image in her career to associate with people. People like Brooke and Jose, for example.
Brooke
Yeah. So that's why use my name. I kind of want to get a test, see how high it is.
Jeff
But that's the thing. Her date Dave did provide a sample, passed the test and was clean. So it should have been smooth sailing from there.
Brooke
That's what I keep saying. I keep going, man. He was nervous and tough, but he passed.
Jeff
Yeah. I mean, it's weird that he was acting so strange on the date. Right, Samantha?
Tiffany
Yeah, that's the thing.
Jeffrey
Forgot to ask. Did you explain to him the job aspect of this?
Samantha
Yeah, I mean, I told him as much as I could about my job. I can't really go into a lot of details, but he seemed to get it.
Brooke
You said you have, like, an important job or like a serious job?
Samantha
I have a very important job.
Jeffrey
Oh, must be like a government job.
Jeff
Well, we have an important job right now to get Dave on the other line and get some answers out of him.
Brooke
Yeah. Drug test him again.
Jeffrey
No, no drug test required on this show.
Kalpen
Drug full.
Jeff
Yeah. All right, so here we go. I'm going to dial Dave's number. Hopefully he picks up. He's not too traumatized, but here we go.
Dave
Hello?
Jeff
Hey, is this Dave?
Dave
Yeah, this is him.
Jeff
Hey, Dave. How's it going, man? You're on a radio show right now called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning.
Jeffrey
Hey, welcome to the show, Dave.
Dave
The radio show.
Jeff
Yeah.
Brooke
Yeah. Sup, Dave?
Kevin
Hold on.
Brooke
See how he answered.
Dave
It's pretty random. What's. What's up?
Jeffrey
He's clean.
Jeff
This is kind of random, but we're calling on behalf of one of our listeners that you went on a date with recently. A girl named Samantha.
Dave
Oh, okay. Yeah, I remember Samantha.
Jeffrey
I bet.
Jeff
Yeah.
Jeffrey
I would think that's a date that's hard to forget.
Jeff
And so we're doing this segment called the second Date Update because we know. Know there hasn't been a second meetup. She's a little bit confused about why it's not happening yet, but.
Dave
Did she. She make you guys call me?
Jeffrey
She didn't make it.
Brooke
Make us our jobs. Yeah, asked us.
Jeffrey
It was a pretty interesting story about your date, so.
Dave
Yeah, it was different.
Jeff
Yeah, different is a good way to describe it. According to her, she asked you to come pick her up at her place. She pulled out a drug test. You seemed surprised about that.
Brooke
Anybody would be surprised. Oh, my God.
Jeff
Even though she did mention it to you before you went out and you still were shocked, right?
Dave
Yeah, I Mean, definitely. That was a first for me, having a drug test before going on a day for sure.
Brooke
Yeah. What is this, a job?
Jeffrey
Were you worried about passing it?
Dave
No, I mean, you know, I'm pretty good about all that stuff.
Brooke
Oh, you're straight edge.
Jeffrey
Okay, good.
Jeff
But that's what we heard. It came back all clean and you guys went out to dinner. But she said that you seemed a little bit uncomfortable when you were out because you were making some jokes and comments, being very adamant about not using drugs.
Dave
Yeah, I mean, like, what else am I supposed to do? I mean, yeah, a little shock.
Jeffrey
She actually applauded your humor. What'd you call her, the FBI of Bumble? She said.
Dave
Oh, yeah, yeah, FBI or DEA something. I don't know what she does, but
Jeffrey
yeah, DEA would make the most sense.
Jeff
Yeah.
Brooke
Any of those initials.
Alexis
Right.
Dave
So, I mean, yeah, she told you about the drug test, but did she tell you about her dog?
Jeffrey
Her dog? No, we didn't mention about it. We didn't hear about a dog at the apartment?
Dave
Yeah, no. So she sets up the date and then we go to a bar that's like dog friendly. There's other dogs.
Brooke
I love those bars.
Dave
She didn't come right out and say, but I'm pretty sure her dog is like a drug sniffing dog.
Jeffrey
What?
Brooke
What?
Jeffrey
Yeah, why would you think that?
Dave
It's like sniffing my pants the whole time. It's a German shepherd. Like she's kind of like looking at him, like waiting for him to signal something. Like it was just awkward. Like, even after the drug test.
Jeffrey
Yeah, honestly, that would make sense why
Alexis
she would need to drug test everyone
Jeffrey
so her dog doesn't attack them.
Brooke
Oh my God.
Jeff
Do the dogs instantly attack if they smell drugs?
Alexis
I don't know what they do.
Brooke
They sit and they're like ready to attack.
Jeff
Yeah, I think they just point at you, whatever.
Jeffrey
But still, it would make whatever they do. Jeff. Okay, I haven't been attacked by a drug dog before. Not yet, but they scare me. Even the beagles.
Jeff
So you're saying, are you 100% sure that her dog is a drug sniffing one?
Dave
I mean, she didn't come out and say, but I mean, the way he was acting also like German shepherd and like the whole drug test. Take that. Put it in my head. I was like, one plus one equals two, you know?
Brooke
Dude, I feel like all German shepherds are drug dogs. Even the ones that aren't trained. They're snitches. They'll take all the other ones.
Alexis
Did it go to other people at the Bar, like, was it sniffing out?
Brooke
Oh, that's a good. I bet it was busy.
Dave
I mean, she was holding a pretty tight leash on, so I really don't know.
Jeffrey
You know, even though you were totally clean and innocent. I was. I would start to feel like I was on drugs in that moment.
Alexis
Like at the airport, you panic that
Brooke
you have them and you go, am I a drug lord?
Dave
Yeah, Well, I felt like I was like Walter White.
Alexis
Yeah.
Kalpen
Yeah.
Jeff
The only way to find out for sure the status of her and her dog is to just ask Samantha who's on the other line right now waiting to talk to you.
Dave
Oh, dude, you didn't tell me she was listening this whole time.
Brooke
Yeah, sick him.
Jeff
That's how this works.
Dave
But.
Jeff
Samantha, you there?
Kevin
Oh, God, Yeah, I'm here.
Dave
Hey.
Jeffrey
Oh.
Jeff
Would you like to address the allegations against your dog?
Tiffany
Yeah, yeah.
Samantha
My dog is not a drug sniffing dog. And that sounds really paranoid.
Brooke
Oh, okay, that's good then.
Jeff
Drug users are a little bit paranoid. He wouldn't be so upset about it if he didn't have something to hide.
Brooke
No, the girl's just said, like, when
Jeffrey
you're under pressure at the airport, I'm always scared to same.
Samantha
I don't know, I think it's just suspicious that like, like, you passed the drug test, but then, like, what are you hiding?
Tiffany
Like, what, you.
Samantha
You seriously think I also brought a drug sniffing dog?
Dave
Well, I mean, what else am I supposed to think? Like, this is the first time I've had a drug test. And then, yeah, the way the dog's acting.
Samantha
I mean, I've been honest about everything. I told you ahead of time that
Tiffany
that's what was going to happen.
Samantha
You showed up, you passed it. Like, what are you. What are you hiding? If you're thinking, like you're automatically thinking
Kevin
anything, it's just this.
Dave
The whole thing was just such a bizarre experience. Experience. Like it was supposed to be a date, like romantic and fun. That wasn't any of that. Like, have you ever had one of those where it's like fun? Or do you.
Samantha
I mean, I feel like if you have nothing to hide, then it should have just been a, like a, you know, you passed this test and now let's go have fun and like be normal and not worry about it ever again.
Brooke
She does seem like this sketchy.
Dave
Or, yeah, you could just leave your German shepherd at home and then we could go do something like fun.
Jeffrey
I mean, I. I feel like you should just say, oh my God, I'm so sorry for the miscommunication. It's not a drug dog.
Samantha
Like, it honest not occur to me. That's why I'm just like, I don't know how to respond to this.
Dave
How could that not occur to you?
Samantha
I mean, at the end of the day, the way you're talking to me right now makes it seem like maybe you did drugs in the past. You're a little defensive. Like, what is that about? What?
Tiffany
It sounds like you're.
Samantha
You're hiding something. And so, yeah, I mean, I. I'm. I'm curious, like, what that's all about.
Dave
This is exactly why I called you the FBI of Bumblebee.
Samantha
If there's smoke, there's fire. And so I wouldn't be doing this if it wasn't actually an issue.
Jeffrey
And if there's smoke, you'll find Jose. So it's fine.
Brooke
And it is fire.
Jeffrey
Yeah. Yeah, always.
Jeff
I mean, oh God, we're such degenerate.
Dave
So.
Brooke
I know.
Jeff
Listen, Dave, at the end of the day, maybe Samantha should ease up on it. But at the same time, Dave made an assumption that wasn't true.
Jeffrey
Okay, so now that you know that it's a non drug sniffing dog, like, so that's.
Jeff
That's both of them making a mistake. We agree that we're all flawed, but none of us do drugs. Not on the. No one on this call does.
Brooke
So none of the listeners either. Right? Listeners?
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Jeff
So let's just try and come together for one more date that we would pay for. What do you think, Dave?
Brooke
No more drug tests though, right?
Jeffrey
Romantic Dave. How could you say no? Yeah.
Dave
Yeah. I don't know. Like, I kind of feel like I've been interrogated or something, like I'm a
Kevin
war criminal or something.
Jeffrey
Yeah, well, she hasn't actually looked into that part of your life. Yeah.
Kevin
Yeah.
Brooke
Have we done a background check on him yet?
Alexis
I'm sure she has.
Jeff
That might be her version of foreplay. So, Samantha, at this point, do you still even want to go out with Dave?
Tiffany
I would go out with Dave again.
Samantha
I mean, I haven't seen any other red flags other than his, like, paranoia.
Jeff
I mean, honestly, compared to most people dating online, that is a plus. So, Dave, it's up to you.
Dave
Yeah, I mean, as long as you don't bring the doctor, I'll do one more time.
Geico Gecko
Wow.
Jeffrey
Expect that you can do drugs before
Brooke
this date because she's not going to test you.
Samantha
I heard that
Jeff
second test is coming.
Kevin
Oh, no.
Jeff
Get the gloves ready.
Jeffrey
So sexy.
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Jeffrey
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Brooke
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Jeffrey
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Jeffrey
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Jeffrey
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Jeff
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Jeffrey
Dude, they're going out again.
Alexis
Yeah.
Brooke
I can't believe it.
Jeffrey
As sterile as you can get, sterile is a good.
Brooke
I still wonder like what her job was. She's so serious. Everything.
Jeffrey
I feel like it's not as serious
Alexis
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Brooke
She takes it seriously.
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Podcast: Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Date: June 20, 2026
Episode Theme:
This episode features two of the Second Date Update team’s most memorable classics, blending hilarious awkwardness and modern dating confusion. The spotlight is on real-life romantic mishaps: one “Failure to Launch” involving a misunderstood “soft launch” of a relationship, and a “CSI Dinner Investigation” in which a woman insists on drug testing her dates before going out.
[Classic Second Date Update, 04:30–23:38]
Tiffany calls in for help after a promising night out with Kevin the bartender turns into radio silence. She’s perplexed by his lack of contact post-date—even though there was clear mutual interest. The real bombshell arrives when Kevin reveals what he found on Tiffany’s social media: evidence she’s in a “soft launch” relationship.
1. Meeting at the Charity Event
2. The First Date
3. The Reveal: Kevin’s Perspective
4. Group Reaction and Social Media Satire
This segment humorously exposes the pitfalls of modern romance, where “soft launching” a partner online causes real-world confusion, jealousy, and missed connections. The hosts and guests highlight the absurdity of how social media lingo and strategies now dictate romantic progress and commitment.
[Classic Second Date Update, 25:36–44:28]
Samantha, with a self-proclaimed “serious job,” refuses to go on a date with any man before he passes an at-home drug test. Dave, her Bumble match, is thrown off but complies. The resulting dinner is underwhelming, overshadowed by suspicion (including of Samantha's German Shepherd, who Dave suspects is a drug dog).
1. The Pre-Date Drug Test
2. The Awkward Dinner
3. The Dog Conspiracy
4. Confrontation and Clarification
5. Second Date Decision
Modern Dating Is Over-Complicated
Both stories showcase how today’s expectations—be it a social media “soft launch” or pre-date urine test—have turned dating into a high-stakes, often absurd process.
Authenticity Still Matters
Despite the playfulness, both segments suggest that honesty and up-front communication, not just “brand management,” are needed to foster real connections.
Memorable Exchanges
The hosts’ banter and quick wit add levity to the drama, underscoring the outlandishness of each scenario and keeping the mood light for listeners.
The tone is humorously skeptical, quick-witted, and self-aware. The hosts thrive on gently mocking both guests and themselves, often highlighting how “new era” dating culture complicates what should be simple romance.
You do not need to have heard the episode to appreciate these tales of dating gone off the rails. Each story encapsulates a new-age romantic pitfall, made all the better by the hosts’ sharp, affectionate humor and the wild unpredictability of real singles seeking a second chance.
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