Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update Classics

Episode: Fin Dumb + Model Convention
Date: September 27, 2025

Episode Overview

In this “Second Date Update Classics” episode, Brooke, Jeffrey, and their co-hosts tackle two memorable cases of romantic misadventure: one involving the niche world of “financial domination” (known as “findom”), and another featuring a self-doubting dater who runs headlong into a convention of male models at his love interest’s workplace. As always, the team calls the person who isn’t returning messages to unearth the real—and sometimes bizarre—reasons behind a second date ghosting.

The hosts blend humor, empathy, and candid moments as they dig into financial fetishes, confidence-shaking experiences, and the insecurities that color dating in today’s world.

First Second Date Update: The "Findom" Fiasco

Main Segment: 03:38–23:00

Key Discussion Points

• Unveiling 'FD' in Dating Profiles (03:38–05:19):
  The hosts tease the segment by hinting that after this story, listeners won't see dating profiles the same, referencing two little letters: "FD," which stand for "financial domination."

• Beth’s “Type”—Financial Domination (05:07–06:38):

  • Beth, the listener, claims she only dates men into financial domination—a niche where men receive gratification from giving women access to their finances.
  • "There are certain successful men who find it very thrilling to give a woman complete access to their bank account." —Beth [06:36]

• How Does Findom Work? (06:38–07:34)

  • Beth explains that men often signal interest in findom with “FD” on their dating profiles.
  • Trust is central, and while it’s consensual, Beth says it’s an “exchange of power,” mirroring traditional domination, but with money.

• The Rooftop Date with Charlie (07:44–09:27):

  • Beth matched with Charlie (who indicated “FD” in his profile). On their first date, he placed all his bank cards on the table and let her pick one.
  • “He immediately texted me his PIN number… I would take out a little bit here, a little bit there, and then, you know, when he would notice it, he would get excited.” —Beth [08:41]
  • Beth spent about $9,000 in a week. "[For him,] that's like a drop in the bucket." —Beth [09:48]

• The Ghosting and the Call to Charlie (09:35–16:27):

  • One day the card is deactivated, and Beth gets no further responses from Charlie.
  • The hosts call Charlie (12:48). He reveals: "I guess I was just hoping she would go bigger." —Charlie [15:41]

• The Twist—Spending Wasn’t Enough (15:33–18:09):

  • Charlie’s critique is that Beth was "too careful": “It felt like Findom Light. I don't know.” —Charlie [15:53]
  • He compares careful spending to conversations he would have with his wife: “If I wanted to talk about budgets, I would talk to my wife.” —Charlie [16:49]
  • Charlie reveals he’s married. Surprisingly, Beth isn’t fazed: “I mean, no, but, like, I could work around that.” —Beth [17:51]

• The Confrontation and Finale (18:09–20:20):

  • Beth expresses the need for trust, which Charlie finds “boring.”
  • “There was a couple of days throughout our short, brief time together where I checked my account, and guess what? Zero activities.” —Charlie [18:42]
  • Charlie has already found another, “riskier” findom partner. “She's actually putting fear in my heart, and that's really all I'm in it for.” —Charlie [19:58]
  • Hosts and Beth laugh at the bizarreness, and Beth jokes about “checking with his wife first” if she were to step up her game.

Notable Quotes & Moments

• [06:36] Beth: “There are certain successful men who find it very thrilling to give a woman complete access to their bank account.”
• [08:41] Beth: “He immediately texted me his PIN number… I would take out a little bit here, a little bit there, and then, you know, when he would notice it, he would get excited.”
• [15:41] Charlie: “I guess I was just hoping she would go bigger.”
• [16:49] Charlie: “If I wanted to talk about budgets, I would talk to my wife.”
• [17:51] Beth: “I mean, no, but, like, I could work around that.”

Second Second Date Update: The Mini-Golf and Model Convention Mishap

Main Segment: 24:00–38:47

Key Discussion Points

• Aaron’s Background and First Date Success (24:00–25:57):

  • Aaron, recently unlucky in love, reports a strong first date with Natalie: “It was like saying that you’re gonna want to go on a second date without actually having to say it. You know, it’s one of those.” —Aaron [25:46]

• The Second Date Setup—A Hotel Full of Models (26:25–27:48):

  • Natalie invites Aaron to pick her up at work—a four-star hotel. He arrives to find the lobby packed with tall, attractive male models.
  • “It looked like there was some sort of thing, like an agency… all these dudes, and they're all, like, hot and six foot two.” —Aaron [27:11]

• The Effect on Aaron’s Confidence (27:48–29:06):

  • Aaron gets thrown off, feeling suddenly like a “five” instead of an “eight.”
  • “I feel like a solid eight. But then I walked in there and I was like, no, I'm a five.” —Aaron [28:59]
  • He senses Natalie is somewhat distant during their subsequent mini golf date.

• The Debrief and The Call with Natalie (32:12–33:37):

  • Natalie admits the second date vibe was “off,” and assumed Aaron lost interest.
  • “On our second date he seemed a little aloof.” —Natalie [33:04]
  • Natalie didn’t realize Aaron’s confidence took a hit: “We're in the business of being happy and creating a happy experience for everybody. Of course I like him…” —Natalie [36:20]

• Clearing the Air and Making Up (36:56–38:47):

  • The hosts encourage honest conversation. With some awkward, passionate banter, Natalie and Aaron realize their confusion was mutual.
  • "You like me, and I like you. So what's the problem?" —Natalie [37:14]
  • The segment ends with them enthusiastically agreeing to a third date, paid for by the show.

Memorable Moments & Quotes

• [27:11] Aaron: “As I walk in, I'm kind of noticing... all these dudes, and they're all, like, hot and six foot two... the hot dude convention at the hotel.”
• [28:59] Aaron: “I feel like a solid eight. But then I walked in there and I was like, no, I'm a five.”
• [36:20] Natalie: "I'm just being myself when I'm with Aaron. And of course I like him, but I'm not going to be all holly-dolly."
• [37:14] Natalie: "So what's the problem? I don't get it. You want to go out on date number three?"
• [38:06] Aaron & Natalie (in unison): "Yes, we are. Yes, we are. Yes, we are. And we're gonna... it's gonna be the best date."

Timestamps of Important Segments

• FD (“Findom”) revelation & explanation: 03:38–07:34
• Beth reveals $9,000 spending: 09:35–09:48
• Charlie’s critique (not wild enough): 15:33–16:27
• Charlie admits he’s married: 16:49–17:51
• Aaron’s lobby-of-models crisis: 26:25–28:59
• Natalie’s perspective: 33:04–36:20
• Third date agreement (happy ending): 37:14–38:47

Tone and Takeaways

Throughout the episode, the hosts are playful, incredulous, and supportive—even as they wade into the truly unexpected subcultures and emotional obstacles of modern dating. The “findom” story stands out for its rare peek into the world of monetary kinks, while the “model convention” story highlights how fleeting moments can derail self-esteem but also how simple communication can save the day.

In the hosts’ words:

• "We've never heard of anything like this before." —Jeffrey [11:05]
• "Why do I want this woman to bankrupt you?" —Brooke [20:03]
• "You like me, and I like you. So what's the problem?" —Natalie [37:14]
• "Why are we yelling?" —Jeffrey [38:01]

Conclusion

This episode of “Second Date Update Classics” delivers double the drama and double the laughs, balancing the wild world of “financial domination” with the more universal insecurity we all sometimes feel in love. Through honest (if awkward) conversations, both stories reveal that clear communication—and sometimes a sense of humor—can go a long way in dating.