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Brooke
Blue Campaign all right, it's double the fun on your Saturday. Hey, welcome to Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning. This is your second date podcast and yes, last Week we discussed, like, why Saturdays, our Saturday podcast episode is so popular. Like, what people love about hearing two classics back to back.
Jeffrey
Yeah.
Brooke
And, man, did you turn out in the comment section. I love it. Yeah. One person said, you know, I. I need to clean my house, so I must hear longer podcasts, so I clean more. Somebody else said, I work as a cabin crew and I listen to you guys while I commute to work or get ready in the morning. That's cool. I listen to you on my way to work. It takes me 90 minutes to get there, and these take up part of the time. I mean, that's one reason we do morning radio. So we get here really early, and one of the great benefits is no traffic. Yeah, very true. I always tell people, if you could switch, switch your shift to 5 or 6am starting.
Jeffrey
Yeah.
Brooke
So thank you. Thank you so much for being here.
Jeffrey
We appreciate it.
Brooke
And we're just gonna get it started. Two back to back second dates right now.
Jeffrey
I can guarantee after today, you will never look at people's dating profiles the same ever again.
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
Really?
Jeffrey
And it's all because of two little letters that apparently some people sneak in there.
Brooke
Oh.
Jeffrey
And it indicates a very specific type of thing that they're into.
Brooke
Oh, my gosh.
Jeffrey
One of our listeners says she's into it, and it's way more common than any of us thought. You'll find out what those two little letters are and more importantly, what they mean. It's probably going to shock you in your second date update. Right after this second date update, we talk a lot about, do women have a specific type of.
Brooke
Oh, well, I mean, every woman has.
Jeffrey
A different type, but I think the answer is yes. Alexis only likes to date pro athletes. Brooke prefers men who share her same values and same last name. She wants that familial vibe. Family now he is.
Brooke
Well, that's true.
Jeffrey
Our listener today, though, Beth, says she has a very specific type of guy that she dates. No exceptions. And it's clingy El Salvadorian comedians who are afraid of heights. So, Jose, this could be it for you. Can we run into each other's arms but not jump too high?
Brooke
I predicted that Jose was gonna find love this year.
Jeffrey
Let's find out. I hope I do. Beth. Hey, welcome to the show.
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
Hi.
Jeffrey
So stop flirting with me.
Brooke
She's like, what?
Jeffrey
Yeah, I know. I was joking about the comedian stuff, but tell us. You have a very specific type. You said in your email, what's your type of.
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
Well, I only date guys who want to be financially dominated.
Brooke
What?
Jeffrey
What does that mean financially dominated? Did you mean independent?
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
No, it's a niche thing. It's called fandom. Like financial domination, where there are. Yeah.
Brooke
So wait, you only date poor guys? Is that what you're saying?
Jeffrey
Yeah. Well, explain.
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
No, it's actually the opposite. So there are certain successful men who find it very thrilling to give a woman complete access to their bank account.
Brooke
Wait, what?
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
What?
Jeffrey
That is kind of exhilarating, because you don't know.
Brooke
I thought this was, like, an independent woman thing, like, you make your own money. You were saying that, too.
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
I mean, it is.
Brooke
This is rich people problems. Okay. Okay, so wait, what? You only date guys? How do you find these guys? Yeah. And are they, like, people you actually like or not really?
Jeffrey
Brooke, you're married. Come on now. I thought Alexis was gonna ask that.
Brooke
Is there, like, a tab on Wells Fargo?
Jeffrey
Y. Yeah. This is kind of blowing all of our minds. Can you explain a little bit more about how this works?
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
So there are specific sites and then specific ways that guys indicated on the profile. They'll put, like, fd, and then, you know, they're into fandom and FD financially. Okay. Yeah. And I actually like the people I'm dating. Like, I actually want to date them. Like, we actually hopefully lead to a relationship.
Jeffrey
Okay, so wait, wait, wait. I still need more information. Like, how do you get access to all of their finances? How does that work?
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
Well, it depends, right? You know, you might go on a date, and they could give you a password or a pin. And then as the woman behind the scene, I would take out as much money as I want. And I'm not screwing them over. We're consensually playing a game.
Brooke
Okay.
Jeffrey
Okay. In case any cops are listening.
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
Yeah, just, like, regular domination. Like, they might like some pain. This is a form of pain.
Jeffrey
Right, I see. But obviously, you don't want to deplete their entire bank account, because otherwise, you can't come continue to date them if they're totally broke and if they have.
Brooke
Exactly much money to do this. I'm sure they have multiple different accounts.
Jeffrey
Yeah, they're only getting exactly so much. That's a good. So there's guys who actually are into this, that. That want this.
Brooke
I totally forgot. Are we doing a second date update? Are we doing Awkward Tuesday? I don't know what I was like.
Jeffrey
What'S turned into, like, a financial segment at this point. How to make a buck.
Brooke
But are we calling a guy for you?
Jeffrey
Yeah. Is. Is there a specific guy that you are wanting us to call today?
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
Yeah. So I did meet a specific guy, and his name is Charlie, and he had the FD on his profile. So we matched and chatted, and we had a first date, and it was a nice rooftop lounge. And the first thing he does, he took out his wallet and laid out all of his bank cards and says, pick one. It was pretty hot.
Brooke
What?
Jeffrey
What? That is so, like, bald.
Brooke
Did you have to put your hands over him and see what you get the most reaction on him?
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
That's crazy.
Jeffrey
I'm guessing you always pick the head heaviest. By the way, the heaviest one has the biggest limit. It's like credit card roulette, basically.
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
Which.
Brooke
Which one? He's nervous, like, oh, God, don't pick that one.
Jeffrey
Oh, God, that's my black card. He probably wants her to pick the big ones. Which one did you choose?
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
I picked the Amex.
Brooke
Oh, I guess Denied. So many places. Why would you choose that one?
Jeffrey
Credit limit.
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
Okay.
Brooke
On the first day. So what do you do with a credit card?
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
Well, he immediately texted me his PIN number, and kind of over the next couple of days, I would take out a little bit here, a little bit there, and then, you know, when he would notice it, he would get excited. He would text me, like, oh, you just bought something.
Jeffrey
I can see that. Wow. I'm $100,000 in debt. Lucky me. How did I find you? Someone just bought a Tesla.
Brooke
This gives me anxiety.
Jeffrey
This is so cool, though.
Brooke
I wouldn't have the restraint.
Jeffrey
You would love to be fandom ed over a guy. All right, hold on. What's going on now? Where are we now?
Brooke
Did he put the card on hold?
Jeffrey
What happened?
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
Well, it was really nice for a while, and then randomly the other day, I went to do a withdrawal, and it said that the card had been deactivated.
Jeffrey
He closed it.
Brooke
Can we talk? Like, how much money did you take over the time period? Are we talking thousands? Tens of thousands?
Jeffrey
Good question, bro. Great question.
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
I mean, it was probably about 9,000.
Brooke
Whoa.
Jeffrey
Wow, that's so much. What'd you buy?
Brooke
Can you tell us anything cool? One date. $9,000 is not calling you back.
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
I mean, I think for him, that's like a drop in the bucket. But I. I texted him, and he didn't respond, so I'm just really confused.
Brooke
Why do you want to call him? Why do you want to see him again?
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
Because he was really nice and fun. I had a good time.
Brooke
Okay.
Jeffrey
What a good PC answer there.
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
Well, I also want to see if he's okay. Like, did I make a mistake? Did I misunderstand our agreement. I just. Okay. I just want to get some closure either way. Like, yeah, I'd love to see him again.
Jeffrey
Gotcha. This is definitely interesting. It's kind of a sensitive topic on the table because now we're going to be calling a guy. Not really even talk. Talking to him about the actual dates and the romance. It's more about what he's into and what happens. What's your name? What do you do for a living?
Brooke
The romance. Jeff. That's what we're gonna call him about.
Jeffrey
That's not what I want, bro. I wanna. I wanna get into the gritty, dirty details here. When we call him, we recognize their voice.
Brooke
Oh.
Jeffrey
Maybe we can all fin. Dom him together.
Brooke
Okay, you guys, I don't know how to do that.
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
No, just.
Jeffrey
Beth, you're gonna be our Sherpa, as we call him. Second Date Update. Fandom edition. Yeah, Right. Second Date Update. Man, this is a really interesting Second Date update that we're in the middle of.
Brooke
I am dying to do this.
Jeffrey
How long were those songs? You know what?
Brooke
Money I could have spent that time.
Jeffrey
We're all really interested because we've never heard of anything like this before. But I guess we've been talking about this trend or a niche. I'm not sure what to call it.
Brooke
I think a niche is good.
Jeffrey
That's what our listener Beth described it as. It's called findam. Financial domination. And instead of explaining it in general, I'll just tell you how Beth's date went. Maybe you'll understand it that way. Because she met this guy Charlie up at a rooftop lounge. First thing he did was spread all of his credit cards out on the table and told her to pick one, anyone. And she got to use it and take out however much money she wanted from his bank account for the next week.
Brooke
Until suddenly he's not texting her back and the card is declined.
Jeffrey
Yeah, deactivated. His card ghosted her with no explanation for why. And so Beth doesn't understand because they both had agreed to this. That's what fandom is like.
Brooke
I think it's good to know that, Beth. I mean, you're actually interested in him romantically. It's not just a money transaction.
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
Yeah, I like him. Okay.
Brooke
Money thing. She would have spent way more than $9,000 in a week, easily.
Jeffrey
Brooke, right now. So you got to teach Brooke how to do this properly. But we're going to find out what the reason is. Hopefully he picks up. Let's call Charlie and see if he answers. Here we go.
Brooke
Are we okay talking to. I mean, can we.
Jeffrey
That's a good point. Let's try and be sensitive about it. I don't know if he'll want to talk about it.
Brooke
I mean, I don't think we should come in hot with like, you give your credit cards to women.
Jeffrey
Okay, we'll. We'll tread carefully with it, but let's see if he even answers. Here we go.
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
Hello?
Jeffrey
Hey, is this Charlie?
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
It is. Who's this?
Jeffrey
Hey, Charlie. My name is Jeff. I'm on a radio show called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning.
Brooke
Hey, Charlie.
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
Hey, good morning.
Jeffrey
Radio show that you're on now too. So welcome.
Brooke
We have never been so excited to talk to someone.
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
Okay, what is this all about?
Jeffrey
Well, this is a segment that we do. It's called Second date Update. What we try to do is help out our listeners who've gone out with somebody and they had a really nice time with them. We try and help them reconnect afterwards if there hasn't been a second meetup. And recently you went out with a woman named Beth.
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
She. Did she call you? She contact you guys?
Jeffrey
Yeah, yeah, she reached out to our show. She is a little bit confused because after your date, there's been kind of a lack of communication and I. I hope I'm not overstepping my bounds here, but she did say that you and her are both into.
Brooke
Oh, we're gonna do it.
Jeffrey
Well, a certain type of thrill dating.
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
Oh, my.
Jeffrey
Dabbling around here.
Brooke
He can't see your air quotes that you're using.
Jeffrey
I'm trying to frame it positively.
Brooke
Yeah, you know she. Can you just say that she told us about the credit card.
Jeffrey
Well, I don't. Look, if you don't want us to talk about it, that's totally up to you, Charlie. But she ment that you're both into fandom. Financial, financial domination.
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
She told you that?
Brooke
Yes. I'm gonna say she came off so confident and like it was just a very normal thing. Of course, we're all surprised in the room because we've never heard of it.
Jeffrey
Brooke's jealous of her in some ways. But the thing is, this is how she found out that you weren't interested in her because she tried to make a withdrawal and the card got canceled or declined. And I don't know how it works in the fandom world, but that seems like a sign that things are probably over.
Brooke
Couldn't just contact the bank?
Jeffrey
Yeah. So Beth is confused because there was no follow up afterwards, no explanation, and I don't know if There's a term for findom ghosting, but let's not try to make it. She got Ebenezered or something, but that's it. I don't know. But a rich ghost. She is hoping to figure out what happened.
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
Oh, my God. This whole thing is funny.
Jeffrey
We're a funny show. So I think that's. That's what's happening. What do you mean, bro?
Brooke
So you're cool with the money part, right?
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
Of course. I mean, that's what I'm illustrating on my dating profile. It's exactly what I'm trying to tell people.
Brooke
Okay, so what happened?
Jeffrey
Yeah, what we're trying to help Beth figure out is where things went south.
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
Well, I guess. Let me just put it this way. After about a week, I guess I was just disappointed in what?
Jeffrey
Disappointed? Oh, she did tell us that she spent around nine grand. Is that the reason? The. It's the amount of money.
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
I guess I was just hoping she would go bigger.
Jeffrey
What?
Brooke
What did you say? You want her to spend more?
Jeffrey
Bigger with the spending.
Brooke
What?
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
Yeah.
Brooke
What?
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
She was too careful.
Jeffrey
She was too cautious.
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
It felt like Findom Light. I don't know.
Jeffrey
Wait, I didn't even notice you took anything out.
Brooke
I'm sorry, but when you've gone out with other women who are into this, how much do they drop in a week?
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
I mean, a lot more than that. Like I said, I don't. I didn't think you would understand.
Jeffrey
Well, I think we understood you want a woman that. That is willing to be more risky.
Brooke
How many dates are you going on in a month?
Jeffrey
Don't. Don't you think that she would be open to the idea of spending more if you communicated that to her? I feel like she would. Yeah.
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
No, I. I really don't think so. I mean, I need a woman to go hard and really do some damage to counts.
Jeffrey
Yeah, yeah, finish the sentence form, bro.
Brooke
Oh, my God.
Jeffrey
And you don't. You don't see Beth being able to do that?
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
I mean, Beth is nice, don't get me wrong, but she's talking about budgets, trying to be careful.
Brooke
Alexis even threw open her mouth a little bit.
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
If I wanted to talk about budgets, I would talk to my wife.
Jeffrey
Hey. Your wife?
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
Yeah, that's what I said.
Jeffrey
Oh, my God.
Brooke
And she has a budget.
Jeffrey
Please tell me your wife. She has some.
Brooke
I'm just saying she has to deal with.
Jeffrey
I don't know if we want to dig any deeper.
Brooke
So many questions.
Jeffrey
Let's not. Yeah, let's not ask any of those questions at this point, we need to be bringing on somebody else into this conversation because you don't know this, Charlie, but Beth has been listening on the other line.
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
She's on the other line?
Jeffrey
Yeah, she's been waiting to talk to you, so. Beth, you there?
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
Yeah. Okay, so I just. I just want to understand. So you don't want to see me because I did not spend enough of your money, and you're not willing to communicate that to me, so you just ghosted me?
Brooke
And he's married. I don't think she cares about that. That would have been the first thing I would have brought up.
Jeffrey
She probably doesn't even care. Beth, did you know that he was married?
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
I mean, no, but, like, I could work around that. But, like.
Jeffrey
Man, the Findom world is complicated. Hold on. You said you liked him for him. Not at all. Devastate you if you liked him.
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
Yeah, we had a good time. I'm sorry that I'm such a considerate, dumb.
Brooke
She's not looking forever.
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
Beth, I'm not sure if you understand how this is all supposed to work. It's just really not sexy at all when you're trying to be careful and cautious. Like, that's not the point of it.
Jeffrey
I know he has a wife to do that.
Brooke
Guys, my head hurts.
Jeffrey
It's giving, not desperate. Okay, Beth, talk to your sub here. Oh, my gosh.
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
First of all, in a dominant sub relationship, you're supposed to build trust, right? Boring.
Jeffrey
Did you say boring?
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
There was a couple of days throughout our short, brief time together where I checked my account, and guess what? Zero activities.
Brooke
Oh, nothing.
Jeffrey
How dare you, Beth?
Brooke
Not even Starbucks.
Jeffrey
Come on, that's irresponsible.
Brooke
Starbucks, breakfast sandwich.
Jeffrey
Beth, you can step up your game, though, right?
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
Yeah, I could absolutely step up my game, but maybe I should check in with his wife first.
Jeffrey
Oh, actually.
Brooke
Actually, can I say that I think that's a good idea? Because I've been very worried about this woman. Does she know Charlie?
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
Yeah.
Brooke
There's a lot of questions.
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
Yeah, yeah, you guys are asking a lot of questions right now. You called me. Hey, if I'm gonna be a part of this, you guys will take what you get.
Jeffrey
Okay? Exactly. Yeah. In Charlie's words, boring.
Brooke
Brooke.
Jeffrey
So let's move on to the interesting stuff. Well, we. Yeah, this is what we do. Charlie, the whole purpose of this segment is to try and reunite you and Beth together again.
Brooke
Being married.
Jeffrey
Beth says she doesn't care, and clearly he doesn't care.
Brooke
There's one other person here.
Jeffrey
His wife can listen and text in and weigh in however she wants to, but the whole goal is to set you up on another day. And we would pay for it.
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
I mean, listen, I. It's just not going to work for me. I found another woman already.
Jeffrey
Oh, you. I'm sure it's easy, actually.
Brooke
And. What?
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
Well, she's actually putting fear in my heart, and that's really all I'm in it for.
Brooke
Okay, why do I. Why do I want this woman to bankrupt you?
Jeffrey
That's what he wants, too.
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
She could try. I'd love it.
Jeffrey
Okay, actually, this conversation's turning him on a little bit too much, so. You know what, Charlie? We're going to let you go. Thanks for your time, Beth. I'm sorry that. That didn't work.
Brooke
Who knew? Beth, I thought you did serious damage.
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
Yeah, I guess I got to step my game up.
Jeffrey
Well, Jose, would you like to volunteer your bank account? Oh, my God. You got a budget of $9, girl. Take the three zeros off. I got you.
Brooke
Wait. Already in overdraft.
Jeffrey
Oh.
Brooke
Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. You can make a difference in someone's.
Jeffrey
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Brooke
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Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
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Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
I'm shocked.
Jeffrey
I had our producer check the numbers. Alexis, we really need you to stop texting. But I have a whole list.
Brooke
I could spend, like, 50k today.
Jeffrey
Okay. I could do honestly, Very easy.
Brooke
Just because you keep crashing your car.
Jeffrey
Charlie is already with somebody, and I highly doubt you could do more damage than her.
Brooke
Charlie is with multiple people. He is also married. Why does that keep slipping through the cracks?
Jeffrey
Because that's not what fandom is about.
Brooke
Okay, Again, he would not answer whether his wife knew or not.
Jeffrey
Can you imagine Having so much money that people try to bankrupt you and they can't.
Brooke
Yeah, that's amazing.
Jeffrey
And if his wife doesn't know that like random people are taking out thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars from his account and has no idea, then she doesn't want to know. I think they're okay.
Brooke
That is not true. That is so far.
Jeffrey
That's the stance I'm taking. And if you want to listen to any of our second dates, you can find them on Spotify, Apple, wherever you get your content. Put in Brooke and Jeffrey's second date update. You'll find it there.
Brooke
Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
Jeffrey
Women might not realize this, but before going out on a big date, there's certain things guys do to help boost their skills. Self confidence.
Brooke
Oh, okay. Like what?
Jeffrey
They'll knock out 20 push ups real quick in the bathroom.
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
Yeah, heard of that.
Jeffrey
They'll take a couple shots of Jager. Yeah, that always loosens up the. And most importantly, we'll watch the snow kiss scene in Bridget Jones diary. Oh, gets me so jacked up. Nice. Boys don't kiss like that. Yeah, they do.
Brooke
Take notes. Can't even picture with senior table.
Jeffrey
Unfortunately for one of our listeners, none of those tricks would have boosted his ego enough to handle the sight that he saw just as he was picking up his date. He admits it ruined the rest of the night for him. You're gonna hear exactly what happened in your second date update. Right after this second date update. You might remember we did an awkward Tuesday phone call a few months back with a guy named Aaron. Because even though him and his ex broke up, she was still planning on attending a wedding for their mutual friend.
Brooke
That's right.
Jeffrey
Aaron thought it was weird because the groom was his buddy first.
Brooke
Right.
Jeffrey
Thought she should back down.
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jeffrey
So he wanted our help. And ultimately. I know this is probably gonna sound weird, but we had to flip a coin in the studio.
Brooke
That's right. I couldn't remember how that ended. Who ended up going to the wedding?
Jeffrey
Her, Him, Aaron. Long lost.
Brooke
That's right.
Jeffrey
And Aaron, please tell me you still went to your buddy's wedding anyway. What? That's not the rules, Jeff.
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
No, I didn't go.
Brooke
Yeah, you didn't.
Jeffrey
See you follow the Brooklyn Jeffrey coin flip rules.
Brooke
Did you still give a gift though? Aaron, what kind of friend are you?
Jeffrey
Send a gift?
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
Yeah, I gave a gift and it was kind of a spiteful one. I, I got him like a five dollar gift certificate to the Starbucks.
Brooke
I can't even get you a Drink at Starbucks?
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
Yeah, anything at Starbucks that's like. Like just below a coffee.
Jeffrey
Your friend didn't even do anything wrong.
Brooke
Well, he invited the ex. The ex? Well, no, wait. She didn't have an invite, did she?
Jeffrey
But ultimately, the weird part is that after all of that went downhill for him, Aaron is back again for a second date update now. So what's going on in your love life at the moment?
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
So I got another problem here to crack. I. I met this girl on the apps.
Brooke
Well, we know it wasn't at the wedding, so.
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
Yeah, no, it wasn't there. No, not at all. And kind of a breath of fresh air for me, like, super grounded, low maintenance type of woman. And went on a first date, went good. Nothing too crazy, but we had great banter.
Brooke
Did you say she's a great dancer banter? Oh, like, oh, cool. You went dancing.
Jeffrey
I was more interested in her dance moves as well.
Brooke
Oh, all right.
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
Yeah. I don't know. But we had a good time. I watched the car. We did kiss, so that was good.
Brooke
Oh, okay. And what was the kiss like?
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
It was good. It was like saying that you're gonna want to go on a second date without actually having to say it. You know, it's one of those. Okay.
Jeffrey
I don't know. There is a term called kiss you goodbye.
Brooke
There's also pity kiss. Sorry, not saying similar.
Jeffrey
We know all the depressing types of kisses on this show.
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
I've had them all. I've had them all.
Jeffrey
I'll never see you later. Tongue.
Brooke
So you're saying you left feeling really hopeful?
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
Yeah. So it did go to a second date?
Brooke
Oh, it did.
Jeffrey
Oh, you already went on a second date.
Brooke
So it wasn't a sad kiss. You read it, right?
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
I did, yeah.
Jeffrey
Okay, tell us about date number two.
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
Yeah, so she said, come meet me at work, like right at the end of her shift or whatever.
Jeffrey
Oh, God.
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
Okay. Yeah. Kind of weird.
Jeffrey
Well, I guess it depends on where she works. She work at a cool place?
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
Yeah, well, she works. She works at a hotel.
Brooke
Oh.
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
Like four star thing. And I showed up, not totally sure what she does. Like, if it's like reservations or concierge stuff or.
Brooke
I don't know, but maybe you could break in the pool and have a pool party.
Jeffrey
You said it was four stars too, right? Sound like it's like a dingy motel up the highway.
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
No, it was really nice. Yeah.
Brooke
Okay.
Jeffrey
Different, though. Okay?
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
She kind of runs out. She's like, hey, I got 10 more minutes. I gotta wrap some stuff up. And then she runs Back. And I'm. As I walk in, I'm kind of noticing there's, like, all these dudes, and they're all, like, hot and six foot.
Brooke
Two, and, like, the hot dude convention at the hotel, I go to that every year.
Jeffrey
This is why you go to the four stars. I didn't get my invite this year. What happened? You're losing confidence. I guess so.
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
It looked like there was some sort of thing, like an agency. I don't know. But she was, I guess, wrangling something in the back, like, with all of them, and she was having the time of her life.
Jeffrey
Well, dude, wouldn't you flip it around? You were running a bunch of beautiful female models. You'd probably have a big smile on your face. Mean anything. You're just, like, enjoying the view, enjoying your.
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
I couldn't agree more.
Jeffrey
Okay, good.
Brooke
However.
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
However, we go on, like, mini golf date and see, I would be doing the same thing. She was. You're right. But I would also kind of carry that energy through to whoever I was dating, hopefully immediately after. And she was kind of standoffish. It was just like, she wasn't treating me that way. She was. It was more just kind of like there was this distance. But then I could have been being weird, too.
Brooke
Yeah, it sounds like you were being weird. I mean, just. Even your mindset in the hotel lobby sounds kind of.
Jeffrey
It also sounds like she's like, bye, hot guys. Good to see you. All right, you.
Brooke
And maybe she used all her, like, you know, fake customer service, emotional capacity for the day.
Jeffrey
Did you try anything with her to try and get the. The mood right?
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
Yeah, I did. And I only mentioned the thing once. I was like, what was going? What were all those dudes? She was like, oh, it's like this model convention thing.
Brooke
And I was like, no, no, I mean, I get it. Like, if I walked into a model convention and I was meeting some guy for a first date, it would just be a hit to your ego. I could see that.
Jeffrey
Totally.
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
I feel like a solid eight. But then I walked in there and I was like, no, I'm a five.
Brooke
Maybe. Personality probably sucks. Yeah. You're in your homet. Yeah, that's how it works. I get it.
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
Right.
Jeffrey
So are you thinking that overall, your attitude that day may have affected how your date played out?
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
Yeah. And I know, you know, I said it the one time I brought it up just to see what she would say, and I didn't touch it again because I'm not a complete idiot, but that's good. And then I'm like, was I weird? And then it was like, if I was a little weird, that was she, like, taking some Miss Red Cute. And then that snowballed into her being weird.
Brooke
Yeah. You're in your head about this for sure.
Jeffrey
You're your own worst enemy. Even the way you're talking right now, it's a little. Well, defeated. Defeated. That's the word. Thank you. And we wanna. We wanna be. What's the opposite of definite?
Brooke
I don't know.
Jeffrey
But we're gonna line.
Brooke
And compared to us, you're gonna look like a nine when we get her on the phone. So that's good, right?
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
I'm glad this is radio. You can do that, right? Exactly.
Jeffrey
So we're gonna call Natalie and we're gonna send her out with a 10. Personality wise.
Brooke
I like it. Okay.
Jeffrey
Okay.
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
Yeah.
Brooke
Big personality.
Jeffrey
We'll come back and do your second date update. Date. Next second date update. You know, I really feel for Aaron because right before his second date with Natalie, he went to go meet her, and there was a hotel lobby full of attractive male models.
Brooke
What are the chances?
Jeffrey
Yeah. I mean, not good. At least they seem to be models. And that may have thrown off Aaron's confidence. Right before they went to mini golf.
Brooke
Yeah.
Jeffrey
And it just made me think, it must be how all of these you feel whenever you come into the studio with me. Exactly. You get intimidated, and it throws off your confidence.
Brooke
It's like, how do I talk to you?
Jeffrey
I blame you. The reason why I'm single. Yeah. And I. I apologize for making you guys feel that way. I feel really bad. I'm really sorry. I'm just.
Brooke
If I remember right, you didn't get invited to the model convention and.
Jeffrey
Yeah, I didn't because I was invited to the one in Paris. That's why.
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
Oh, okay.
Jeffrey
So, you know, I couldn't do this small pond stuff anymore. But you know what? This man is going to help the man on the phone to meet up with the girl that he likes. Natalie again. It just. Aaron, it sounds like you just didn't put your best foot forward with all that stuff going on in the back of your mind. I'm hoping we could pull it off for you. All right.
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
Yeah, Thanks. I. I kind of stuttered into the whole thing, you know?
Brooke
Totally. And, you know, even if you end up telling her that, like, hey, I was just a little thrown off, I think she'd get it. Like, there's. There's no person alive that wouldn't feel a little uncomfortable walking into you unless you are in fact, a model. You know, I'm sure she'd like to.
Jeffrey
Hear if you're honest. Like, I was a little insecure and I apologize.
Brooke
Totally.
Jeffrey
Yeah, women like it when you project all of your insecurities right out into the open. Let's go with that strategy. You're gonna have to lie.
Brooke
That's not true.
Jeffrey
Hey, this is the model. We're talking to Jeff. Jeff knows.
Brooke
I think we got this. You got two dates under your belt. We get you a third, we're good.
Jeffrey
All right. Okay. Let's not waste any more time. Let's call it right now. Okay, Here we go.
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
We go. Hello?
Jeffrey
Hey, is this Natalie? Yeah, what's up, Natalie? You're. You're on the radio right now with Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
Brooke
Hey, Natalie, how you doing?
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
No way.
Jeffrey
Young Jeffrey.
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
No way. Hi, Jeffrey. I cannot believe this. Oh, totally. That you called me. What is this in reference to?
Jeffrey
This is in reference to a second date update and a guy that you've gone out twice with named Aaron.
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
Okay.
Brooke
Oh, yay. It's just like winning the lottery.
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
All right, so how did you hear about this?
Jeffrey
You know that Aaron emails us and tells us a little bit about your date? Dates. Plural, actually.
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
Why, though? Oh, my God.
Brooke
Because you're not calling him back and he likes you and he thinks you don't like him.
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
I think it's the other way around, but okay.
Jeffrey
What makes you say that?
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
Well, I don't know. I just got like this feeling that on our second date he seemed a little aloof.
Brooke
Okay, that makes sense.
Jeffrey
We. We talked to him about the second date and he mentioned something about trying to meet you at the hotel where you work, and there was a bunch of kind of attractive guys in the lobby there.
Brooke
Was there legit a model convention going on?
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
Oh, yeah. Yeah, there was. Yeah, but that's my job.
Brooke
Yeah, he thought that too. I mean, it's not like he was like, jealous or anything like that.
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
No, I. I don't know. I just sensed like maybe he wasn't really that into me at that time. The first date went really well, but then the second date he seemed, like I said, standoffish a little bit. And I don't know, I just sense like a different vibe. And so I was like, all right, maybe this guy just really isn't that into me. And I kind of backed off a little bit.
Jeffrey
I mean, but you could understand where he's coming from because he's around all these, you know, apparently really good looking male models.
Brooke
I think. I think What Jeff's saying is, like, he just took a little, like, hit to the ego as soon as he went to meet you. And then it was hard for him to kind of of get back that confidence he lost.
Jeffrey
Yeah. Because he mentioned that you look like you were having a lot of fun with them.
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
You know, I didn't even really think about that. And that's on him. If he's insecure looking, I mean. Yeah, they're good looking. Absolutely.
Jeffrey
Yeah.
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
I mean, they're models now. I rest my case. She's like, still. I'm. I'm here, by the way. Oh, God.
Jeffrey
Remember how this works, Natalie, Aaron's on the other line listening.
Brooke
We were doing a good job. Aaron, why'd you interrupt?
Jeffrey
We were getting to the meat of it.
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
Oh, quickly. I forgot. Hello, Aaron. How are you? Hi. Hi. Sorry, I just thought your head was kind of with the models during mini golf and not with me. That's kind of what it felt.
Brooke
I like you.
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
I was on the date with you. I get it. They're models. They're supposed to be good looking. You know, models are good looking whether they're male, they're female. These models were good looking. Oh. And they were male, so we'll get that out of the way.
Brooke
Aaron, why are you coming off insecure?
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
She's the one that keeps bringing up how good looking these guys were. You guys hear this?
Brooke
Yeah, but didn't you hear her on. On your date? You were, like, aloof and weren't into her, and so that's why her attitude changed. It didn't have anything to do with models.
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
I get it. It's fine. But it's like I showed up for her because I wanted to be with her, and then I felt like her head was somewhere else, which was bad back. It like a. It looked like a Bud Light commercial or something. Well, that's a bad example. Maybe not today, but like a.
Brooke
Like a Top Gun volleyball scene. Is that what we're thinking about image?
Jeffrey
And everybody said it's not helping with Aaron. I don't think it's not helping with my focus either. So let's. Let's refocus. Because, Natalie, what I think Aaron is saying is, to him, whether it's true or not, it felt like you were more interested in hanging out with the models that day than hanging out with him. That was just a vibe that he got.
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
I have to disagree because I'm like that with everybody. We're in the business of being happy and creating a happy experience for everybody. And I'm just being myself when I'm with Aaron. And of course I like him, but I'm not going to be all holly dolly like, oh, he's not one of your guests.
Brooke
That makes sense. I mean. Aaron, do you hear her? Because. Because it.
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
Yeah, it just, like. I don't know. I mean, I'm sure I was, like, being a weirdo, so that's part of it, but it just, like. It just kind of felt like I was competing or something with all of these dudes once I.
Brooke
But you weren't. How many times does she have to tell you that?
Jeffrey
Yeah.
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
Yeah, I understand.
Jeffrey
One more would probably help. Natalie. Just drive it on.
Brooke
Oh, my God.
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
I like you, Aaron. I mean, come on, now. Yeah, I like you, too. That's why I like.
Jeffrey
Now we're getting somewhere.
Brooke
I like you, too.
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
Okay, so fine. You like me, and I like you. So what's the problem? I don't get it. You want to go out on date number three, and then. And then. Yes, I do. Okay, you do. Okay. You do. So then I'll go with you, then. Okay. Okay, then maybe I don't. Maybe I don't like anybody else but you, and then I want to just go out with you. Maybe that's how I.
Jeffrey
Sounds like a threat, but it's not a threat. Like, that's a good thing. Don't interrupt them. This is.
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
And the feeling is reciprocal. Absolutely. 100%.
Jeffrey
I like it.
Brooke
You.
Jeffrey
Well, I like you.
Brooke
They got an angry kiss this time.
Jeffrey
Did we just skip the third date? And they officially had the exclusive talk right here?
Brooke
Yes, that's what happened, Jeffrey.
Jeffrey
I'm happy for the two of them, bro.
Brooke
So am I.
Jeffrey
Me, too. Why are we yelling?
Brooke
Brook's scary when she does.
Jeffrey
So, wait, are you guys happy going out again?
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
Like, yes, we are. Yes, we are. Yes, we are. And we're gonna. It's gonna be the best date to it.
Jeffrey
Do we have to beep that? We should. Well, we're gonna pay for that. Best date. Damn it.
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
Yeah. Yeah. You'll pay for that date.
Brooke
Oh, yeah.
Jeffrey
Is that a threat? I'm happy to pay for it. Okay. How about that?
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
Well, this is going a little bit better than I thought. I don't know why I'm mad, though.
Brooke
Yeah, we're not quite sure either.
Jeffrey
I don't. But it's working. So I will keep this energy when you meet up with Natalie. Okay, Natalie, you cool with that?
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
I am cool with that.
Jeffrey
All right, let's end this segment now. Congratulations.
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
Don't be late. It'll be fine. I'll be fine.
Brooke
Okay. Yeah. That's sensible. That's really sensible. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
Jeffrey
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Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
That was.
Brooke
That was unexpected, I'm just gonna say. But there was passion behind it, right?
Jeffrey
Yeah, it was happy yelling. So I can only imagine what the romantic life is going to be like. Brooke, do you want to reenact it right now?
Brooke
I don't. I actually didn't even want to imagine it for them. I just wanted to let them have.
Jeffrey
That, do that on my personal time.
Brooke
I guess you and me can do it later.
Jeffrey
Okay. Once we go on off the air. But remember, you could check out all of our second aid updates if you want to hear them up on our.
Brooke
Where are they?
Jeffrey
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Brooke
Oh, that. That's a good place for him to be.
Jeffrey
That's where it is.
Brooke
Is that on the worldwide web, Jeffrey?
Jeffrey
Thinking of the romantic scene?
Brooke
Listen, you can also find him on our podcast. Yeah, yeah, don't say it like that.
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
Okay.
Jeffrey
What else can we find out?
Caller/Guest (Beth, Aaron, Natalie, Charlie)
I don't know.
Brooke
I just want to get out of this.
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Episode: Fin Dumb + Model Convention
Date: September 27, 2025
In this “Second Date Update Classics” episode, Brooke, Jeffrey, and their co-hosts tackle two memorable cases of romantic misadventure: one involving the niche world of “financial domination” (known as “findom”), and another featuring a self-doubting dater who runs headlong into a convention of male models at his love interest’s workplace. As always, the team calls the person who isn’t returning messages to unearth the real—and sometimes bizarre—reasons behind a second date ghosting.
The hosts blend humor, empathy, and candid moments as they dig into financial fetishes, confidence-shaking experiences, and the insecurities that color dating in today’s world.
Main Segment: 03:38–23:00
Unveiling 'FD' in Dating Profiles (03:38–05:19):
The hosts tease the segment by hinting that after this story, listeners won't see dating profiles the same, referencing two little letters: "FD," which stand for "financial domination."
Beth’s “Type”—Financial Domination (05:07–06:38):
How Does Findom Work? (06:38–07:34)
The Rooftop Date with Charlie (07:44–09:27):
The Ghosting and the Call to Charlie (09:35–16:27):
The Twist—Spending Wasn’t Enough (15:33–18:09):
The Confrontation and Finale (18:09–20:20):
Main Segment: 24:00–38:47
Aaron’s Background and First Date Success (24:00–25:57):
The Second Date Setup—A Hotel Full of Models (26:25–27:48):
The Effect on Aaron’s Confidence (27:48–29:06):
The Debrief and The Call with Natalie (32:12–33:37):
Clearing the Air and Making Up (36:56–38:47):
Throughout the episode, the hosts are playful, incredulous, and supportive—even as they wade into the truly unexpected subcultures and emotional obstacles of modern dating. The “findom” story stands out for its rare peek into the world of monetary kinks, while the “model convention” story highlights how fleeting moments can derail self-esteem but also how simple communication can save the day.
In the hosts’ words:
This episode of “Second Date Update Classics” delivers double the drama and double the laughs, balancing the wild world of “financial domination” with the more universal insecurity we all sometimes feel in love. Through honest (if awkward) conversations, both stories reveal that clear communication—and sometimes a sense of humor—can go a long way in dating.