Second Date Update Classics: Floral Intentions + Lipstick Dipstick

Summary

Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update Classics – "Floral Intentions + Lipstick Dipstick"

Podcast: Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Host: iHeartPodcasts
Episode Title: Second Date Update Classics: Floral Intentions + Lipstick Dipstick
Release Date: August 8, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this classic "Second Date Update" episode, Brooke, Jeffrey, Alexis, and the team tackle two highly entertaining but wildly different dating disasters, both featuring singles ghosted after what seemed to be promising first dates. The first story ("Floral Intentions") follows Vanessa, who nervously re-enters the dating pool after years of marriage and is stunned by her date Keith's claims. The second ("Lipstick Dipstick") features Carson, whose solid date unravels thanks to a surprising discovery and some even messier roommate/ex-girlfriend logistics. As always, the hosts balance humor with genuine attempts to help—and sometimes just to survive the chaos.

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Floral Intentions: Vanessa & Keith

Setting the Scene

• Vanessa is recently divorced, has never used dating apps before, and ventures onto Plenty of Fish.
• First match and first date is with Keith—described as likable, dog-friendly, and similarly 'returning to the dating scene'.
• Date: Botanical Gardens (Vanessa's suggestion), with hopes of a chill, wholesome afternoon.

[03:47] Jeffrey:

"We’ve got a woman who recently cannonballed back into the dating pool and needs a little help from us today... her name is Vanessa."

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Key Discussion Points

Nervous Beginnings & Botanical Gardens Date

• Vanessa admits to major nerves and “hopes he isn’t a serial killer” ([04:31] Vanessa), reflecting on scary dating app stories.
• Botanical gardens picked for the "public, safe, wholesome" vibe and her interest in plants ([05:34] Vanessa).
• Lighthearted, low-pressure environment; Vanessa tries to share knowledge and keep things comfortable.
• Embarrassing moment: Keith knocks over a decorative watering can, Vanessa jokes Keith is "dangerous to plants"—worries she may have accidentally offended him ([07:25] Vanessa).
• The date ends well in Vanessa’s eyes: tea at the gardens, a hug goodbye, and clear interest in a second date.

The Ghosting & Reflection

• Vanessa hasn’t heard from Keith in two weeks and is confused ([09:02] Vanessa).
• She worries if her joke or garden-centric date idea turned him off; expresses willingness to learn from mistakes and approach dating with a positive mindset.

[08:44] Vanessa:

"In worst case scenario, if I did screw up, I did do something wrong... I can learn from it. It could be a learning moment."

The Call with Keith

• Keith answers, seems immediately uncomfortable ([11:10]).
• He calls Vanessa “a freak” ([12:23])—alluding to much more forward, risqué behavior than anticipated:
  • Accuses Vanessa of using old photos, implying she catfished him (“these pictures from, like, 10, 15 years ago” – [12:36]).
  • Claims she was surprisingly sexually forward—offering to send "pictures" and, shockingly, suggesting they "go behind" the plant shop or use the garden’s women’s restroom for physical intimacy ([15:00] Keith).

[14:12] Keith:

"It's one thing to be trying it out, but she literally suggested... behind [the plant shop] and do things."

• Keith says this was a huge turn-off and made it uncomfortable to continue.
• Vanessa defends herself, saying she's "just that active" and wants to take initiative in dating after a long marriage, then calls Keith a “snowflake” for not being into it ([16:29]).
• The exchange grows tense and playful, with hosts and guests both shocked and amused.

[16:29] Vanessa:

"I didn't know I was dating a snowflake."

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Second Date Offer & Denouement

• The hosts offer to pay for another date. Keith: "Absolutely not" ([18:39]).
• Vanessa jokes her grandkids told her about Tinder and she's ready for her next adventure ([18:59] Vanessa).
• Hosts reflect: Did botanical gardens just get way more interesting? Did Vanessa accidentally catfish, and how forward is too forward in 2026 dating?

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Lipstick Dipstick: Carson & Leanne

Setting the Scene

• Carson, a motivated dating app user, claims to have perfected his opening line (“would you critique my profile? I’m new here”) with a “60% reply rate” ([23:44] Jeffrey).
• Carson matches with Leanne; they connect over sports, music, and a lighthearted critique of his serious photos.
• Carson picks her up for a steak dinner, tries to keep things smooth, smiles (per her advice), and the date goes well.

[24:00] Carson:

"Like, we don't even need to talk. But I was wondering if you would critique my profile. I'm new here."

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Key Discussion Points

The Lipstick Incident

• On the drive home, Leanne finds a lipstick tube between Carson’s seats ([26:31] Carson).
• Carson tries to explain: It’s not his, but he’s driving his ex-girlfriend’s car because his own is in the shop.
• Leanne’s demeanor changes; no goodnight kiss; follow-up texts go unreturned.

Ex-Girlfriend Complications

• When pressed, Carson admits the “ex is just a friend,” but only after some encouragement from the hosts.
• Brooke and Alexis debate whether being friendly with exes is a green or red flag ([29:43] Brooke).
• Hosts call Leanne to clear things up. She is genuinely skeptical and wary, immediately referencing “nightmare” situations involving guys close with their exes ([32:44] Leanne).

[33:11] Jeffrey:

"Okay, it sounds like you feel threatened by the ex girlfriend a little bit."

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The Reveal: The Truth Keeps Slipping Out

• Carson joins the call, reiterates that he “felt a connection” and wants a second chance.
• Then, in a flurry of awkward honesty, he reveals:
  • He actually lives with his ex—rotating use of the car and even the bed (“It’s my weekend to have the master bedroom…” – [36:46] Carson).
  • When not in the bed, he sometimes sleeps in the car ([37:06] Carson).
  • He even paid for the dinner... with his ex’s debit card ([38:27] Carson).

[36:46] Carson:

"Why don’t you come over this weekend? ... It’s my weekend to have the master bedroom."

[38:31] Carson:

"You didn't complain when I used the ex's debit card to pay for dinner."

• Leanne wants nothing more to do with this "nightmare," and firmly declines another date.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• [08:56] Jeffrey: “There are plenty of fish out there for you to hook up with and discuss orchids with.”
• [12:23] Keith: “That woman, she's a freak.”
• [14:12] Keith: “She literally suggested they had this little plant shop...we go behind it and do things.”
• [16:29] Vanessa: “I didn't know I was dating a snowflake.”
• [18:39] Keith: “Absolutely not.”
• [29:43] Brooke: “I think that if you can be friends with an ex, it doesn't mean that you still have feelings for them.”
• [34:42] Leanne: “The radio person, I don't know her name, but like, she did bring up some pretty decent points.”
• [36:46] Carson: “Why don't you come over this weekend... It's my weekend to have the master bedroom.”
• [38:31] Carson: “You didn't complain when I used the ex's debit card to pay for dinner.”

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Segment Timestamps

• [03:47] Vanessa introduced—her return to dating
• [05:34] Botanical Gardens date described
• [07:25] The “plant joke” incident
• [09:02] Vanessa hasn’t heard from Keith in two weeks
• [11:10] Call connects with Keith
• [12:23] Keith: “She’s a freak”—the accusations begin
• [14:12] The “plant shop” suggestion reveal
• [16:07] Vanessa responds to Keith’s claims
• [18:39] Second date offer denied
• [23:44] Carson introduces his “high reply rate” opener
• [26:31] Leanne finds lipstick—moment of truth
• [29:43] Host debate: Green or red flag to be close with exes?
• [32:44] Leanne: “It’s always a disaster”
• [36:46] Carson’s living situation & “bed schedule” revealed
• [38:31] Ex’s debit card confession
• [39:01] Hosts and listeners process the wild ride

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Host and Listener Takeaways

• Sometimes the quietest, most innocent-sounding dates have the wildest secrets.
• Oversharing (and poor disclosure) can kill a second date faster than any garden tour or lipstick incident.
• The dating world post-divorce and with exes in the mix is as complicated as ever.
• The hosts (and listeners) are rarely surprised anymore—but sometimes they still are.

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Conclusion

“Floral Intentions + Lipstick Dipstick” is a classic example of "Second Date Update" brilliance—awkward honesty, epic miscommunications, and jaw-dropping reveals delivered with trademark humor and empathy from Brooke, Jeffrey, Alexis, and friends. From botanical garden bombshells to living-with-the-ex logistical gymnastics, this episode is a masterclass in dating surprises and radio comedy.

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Need closure on your own ghosting situation? Email the show or subscribe for even more wild updates!

Transcript

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[Jeffrey]

Imagine being married for a couple decades and then it doesn't work out.

[Brooke]

That sucks.

[Jeffrey]

And now you have no choice but to try dating apps.

[Carson]

Oh, yeah.

[Jeffrey]

It's the first time you've ever seen matchmaking apps before. And that's when you get the best advice ever.

[Brooke]

What's that?

[Jeffrey]

Three words, Plenty of fish.

[Alexis]

Oh, not that one.

[Brooke]

You're being sarcastic here.

[Jeffrey]

I see one of our listeners tried it. And I don't think you're gonna believe what happened on her very first meetup. It's definitely plenty of fish ish. And she's gonna spill the ish when we hear from her. In your second aid update.

[Show Announcer]

Next, Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning second date update.

[Jeffrey]

Imagine getting back on the dating apps after being married for years.

[Brooke]

Okay, scary. That would be weird.

[Jeffrey]

What does that look like?

[Brooke]

Yeah, my parents.

[Jeffrey]

In other words, horror, fear. It's worse than the movie Saw five. I'm not even talking about the writing in that.

[Alexis]

Oh, my God, I forgot. There's like 10 of those.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, scripts. Not great. And you're just jumping into a scary new world that maybe you've never even really experienced before. And we've got a woman who recently cannonballed back into the dating pool and needs a little help from us today. Her name is Vanessa. So, Vanessa, welcome to the show.

[Vanessa]

Thanks, guys. Thanks for having me on.

[Brooke]

Yeah, it sounds like your experience is more of a belly flop than a cannonball.

[Jeffrey]

We don't know everything about your date yet. Why don't we start from the beginning? And tell us, who's this person that you met recently online?

[Vanessa]

Well, I met a guy on Plenty of Fish and I am recently divorced. I've been married for years. I got married very young.

[Brooke]

So had you ever done dating apps prior to this?

[Vanessa]

Never. I've been married for a long time, and so I kind of getting out there again, and it's terrifying. It really is. You see all these horrible stories on the news and you think, oh, my God, is this person a serial killer? Is it too good to be true?

[Alexis]

What kind of dating app are you on, though? Are you swapping, typing, or are you, like, on one of those real sophisticated ones where you fill out a bio

[Brooke]

she said, plenty of fish, so I don't know about sophisticated.

[Vanessa]

Yeah, my bad. My friends were like, plenty of fish is good. And I'm like, okay.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, yeah. I can't believe you actually trust those people, but that's interesting. So you met a guy. What's his name?

[Vanessa]

His name is Keith.

[Brooke]

Okay. And is this the first guy you've matched with and gone out with?

[Vanessa]

Yes. Yes.

[Alexis]

Oh, wow.

[Brooke]

Kind of pressure.

[Jeffrey]

Wow. That's a big, big move. So what. What attracted you to Keith?

[Vanessa]

I got a good vibe from him, and, you know, he likes dogs. He's kind of in a similar situation where he said he's getting back out there, and we talked a little bit online, so I kind of felt good about him.

[Brooke]

Okay.

[Carson]

Okay.

[Brooke]

So how long did it take? I mean, I'm assuming you guys met up in real life, right?

[Vanessa]

Yeah. Yeah. So he was really sweet. He was like, where do you want to go? And I'm like, oh, that's nice. And so I suggested the botanical gardens.

[Brooke]

Oh.

[Vanessa]

Oh, yeah.

[Alexis]

It's funny you said that.

[Jeffrey]

I was like, ooh.

[Alexis]

And then I'm like, I'm the only guy.

[Brooke]

That's probably nothing sexy like some orchids.

[Alexis]

I went to a mechanical garden once when I was a kid, and they sound. They were so cool.

[Jeffrey]

Things get hot by the reflection pool.

[Brooke]

I'm sure it is kind of humid in those places.

[Vanessa]

He did have a lot of plants in his, like, photos, and I was just kind of like, well, maybe he knows about plants, so I thought maybe he would like it too.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, no, definitely spice up the conversation with some exciting plant talk. So how did that go?

[Alexis]

This is like a museum date.

[Caller/Listener]

I mean, I feel like walking is less awkward than sitting at a bar for your first date.

[Jeffrey]

Back at it.

[Brooke]

I'd rather go on a walk.

[Alexis]

Look at this flower.

[Vanessa]

There's a lot of other people around. And you got plans?

[Carson]

Oh, yeah.

[Brooke]

Because you're worried about the serial killer angle of it all still.

[Vanessa]

Exactly. Yeah.

[Alexis]

So she's like, we're going to a butterfly farm or something.

[Jeffrey]

This is your first date that you've been on since you were married?

[Vanessa]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

You must have been nervous. How did it go?

[Vanessa]

Well, I mean, I was pleasantly surprised. He was just a bit more casually than I was. But we. We strolled around and we discussed flowers, and I gave him some facts about orchid. You know, little things that I've learned over the years. You know, just conversation starters, hopefully, you know.

[Brooke]

Do you think you were yourself on the date?

[Vanessa]

Yeah, I do. I was surprisingly relaxed. I mean, I Was, like, super nervous at first, but I calmed down as soon as he, like, you know, I just got a good vibe from him.

[Keith]

He was really.

[Alexis]

He showed up. You're in, like, a pleasant environment that you're comfortable with.

[Jeffrey]

The Zoloft is hitting just right. That's awesome.

[Caller/Listener]

But did you just talk about orchids?

[Vanessa]

Well, no. I mean, there was lots of other plants. We. We talked about a lot of. I mean, there was this one really embarrassing moment. He knocked over decorative, like, water can thing.

[Brooke]

Oh.

[Vanessa]

And it broke. And I was like an. Employees were like, oh.

[Leanne]

I was like, oh, my gosh.

[Vanessa]

So I just made a joke that he was, like, dangerous to plants. And I'm, like, hoping he didn't get offended.

[Leanne]

I don't know.

[Alexis]

I'm sure.

[Brooke]

So that's the one thing you found that went wrong with your date, is that you may have offended him with your plant joke?

[Alexis]

Yeah.

[Vanessa]

I'm just scared that I offended him. But he seemed okay. We sat down and we got tea from the little stand, and the date ended really, really well, I thought. I mean, he walked me to my car, gave me a hug. I told him I had a great time.

[Brooke]

This is really wholesome.

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah, it is.

[Alexis]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

A little too wholesome for the show.

[Vanessa]

I know. I'm a little worried. I'm like, maybe this is too good to be true. But, I mean, we had a nice time and I told him, I said, look, I would love to see you again and just kind of do something similar or maybe go out to eat or something like that. But I haven't heard from him, and I'm just kind of upset right now.

[Alexis]

May have been out of the dating game for a while, but you have caught up so quickly. You're immediately on the apps, and when things go wrong, you come right to us. That's what everybody does. It's dating nowadays.

[Vanessa]

Yeah.

[Alexis]

Good job.

[Vanessa]

Thank you. I. I'm just. Like I said, I'm learning to get back out there. And I mean, in worst case scenario, if I did screw up, I did do something wrong. Because I'm so new to the dating, you know, game again that maybe, you know, if I made a mistake, I can learn from it. It could be a learning moment.

[Brooke]

I can move on and improve my attitude. That's a good, positive attitude.

[Jeffrey]

And even if it doesn't work out with Keith, just like your app says, there are plenty of fish out there for you to hook up with and discuss orchids with.

[Leanne]

Right?

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Okay.

[Carson]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

So how long has it been since your botanical garden date happened?

[Vanessa]

It's been like two weeks.

[Carson]

Okay.

[Jeffrey]

Okay. That's a long time in the modern dating world, so.

[Caller/Listener]

But it's part of the experience. You need to get ghosted a little.

[Jeffrey]

Yes, absolutely.

[Caller/Listener]

You're first.

[Brooke]

Ghosting? Yeah, like.

[Caller/Listener]

Oh, exactly.

[Jeffrey]

Well, Keith's got some splaining to do, and we're gon get them on the line for answers in your second date update right after this.

[Show Announcer]

Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Second date update.

[Jeffrey]

If you're just joining us for the second date, we've been talking to Vanessa, who after many years of marriage, recently hopped back into the dating world. Yeah, even though she was nervous, she went full out. Did all the stereotypical hot date things. Botanical gardens, cups of herbal tea, even edgy plant humor. Yeah, it was intense, to say the least. But two weeks later, she's getting her very first taste of ghosting. Isn't sure why. Now, before we call Keith here, I do want to ask you, Vanessa, since you said you were the one who suggested the botanical gardens, you think it's possible that Keith maybe wasn't as into plant dates as you were?

[Brooke]

She thought that he was just because of his profile pics, but maybe he just thought I look good in that picture.

[Jeffrey]

Sure.

[Alexis]

You know, did you pick up a

[Jeffrey]

vibe like that at all?

[Vanessa]

Yeah, I mean, that's a possibility.

[Alexis]

Did you know most guys are, but not everyone's a flower guy.

[Vanessa]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jeffrey]

He could see you as a botanical garden lady, where he's more of a beer garden type of dude.

[Brooke]

Equally fun garden.

[Vanessa]

Yeah.

[Alexis]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

Maybe we can find a garden somewhere in between to send you on your next date. Let's reach out. We're going to dial his number right now and hopefully he picks up. Okay.

[Vanessa]

Okay.

[Keith]

All right.

[Brooke]

Okay. Don't let this ruin the rest of your dating experience. One bad egg does not mean they're all rotten.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, I thought. I thought you meant us.

[Brooke]

No.

[Alexis]

Well, because we probably will.

[Jeffrey]

But we're gonna try our best here. I'm calling them right now.

[Keith]

Hello?

[Jeffrey]

Hey, we're looking to speak with Keith.

[Keith]

This is he. Who's calling?

[Jeffrey]

Hey, man. This is a radio show called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning.

[Alexis]

Hello, Keith.

[Leanne]

Hi.

[Keith]

Oh, okay.

[Alexis]

Good morning.

[Keith]

Good morning. Hi.

[Jeffrey]

We're calling because we're doing this segment. It's called a second date update. I don't know if you know about that, but it's where if one of our listeners goes out with somebody and afterwards they're not getting a call back, they can email us to reach out to them and try and figure out if there's a reason for that.

[Keith]

Oh, my gosh.

[Caller/Listener]

Come on.

[Brooke]

It's kind of fun. I mean, who would ever think that you'd be called for a reason like this?

[Keith]

I don't even want to ask who's.

[Brooke]

Who's the person you don't want to ask?

[Keith]

No.

[Brooke]

Dying with curiosity.

[Jeffrey]

I mean, it's. You should see it as a compliment. It's a good thing that they felt so strongly about you. They reached out to us for help. But in this case, it's a woman named Vanessa.

[Carson]

Okay, yeah.

[Keith]

That's why I didn't want to ask.

[Caller/Listener]

What? No.

[Brooke]

Botanical garden Vanessa?

[Keith]

Yeah.

[Carson]

Yeah.

[Keith]

Oh, my God.

[Jeffrey]

Why did you say you don't even want us to ask?

[Keith]

Listen, I don't know what she told you, but that woman, she's a freak.

[Caller/Listener]

What

[Brooke]

are you talking about? The same Vanessa.

[Caller/Listener]

Always the ones you least expect.

[Brooke]

I guess you're not wrong.

[Jeffrey]

A freak how?

[Keith]

I don't want to speak bad on anybody, but first and foremost, we met up on this app. Plenty of fish. And he was deliberately catfishing me with these. These pictures from, like, 10, 15 years ago.

[Alexis]

Wait, but that's an accident.

[Brooke]

I don't understand.

[Caller/Listener]

I always think about that. When you get back into dating after that long, how do you have good photos for an act?

[Alexis]

Yeah, that's a good point.

[Brooke]

Because if you were married, there's no way a husband was taking good pictures of you.

[Jeffrey]

Well, I'm sorry you're doing Bill on the couch. Do you know all of this, Keith, about Vanessa? That it's her first time, at least in a long time, on the dating apps?

[Brooke]

No. Ever?

[Keith]

Well, I mean, she said she was married for a good little while, but it was obviously a longer while than I thought.

[Brooke]

Wait, are you saying that she was a lot older than you expected?

[Keith]

The pictures made me think we were around the same age, but honestly, it's. That woman could be my mother at this point.

[Alexis]

Were they in black and white? Because that's normally a sign.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, and what part of that turns you off?

[Keith]

Oh, my gosh. I don't even know you guys.

[Brooke]

He's joking.

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[Brooke]

I mean, it doesn't ever feel good when you expect one thing and you get something else when you start a date. Right? So right at the beginning, you were turned off.

[Keith]

I was shocked. But I'm just like, listen, I'm already out here. Might as well just go through with it, okay? And we ended up going to this botanical garden, right?

[Jeffrey]

We heard that that was actually her idea, but I'm More curious about why you said, she's a friend freak. Well, how did that come up?

[Brooke]

I thought he just meant because of the pictures, but is that what you meant?

[Alexis]

Could be multiple meanings here.

[Keith]

No. We're walking through the garden, and she's just getting aggressive. Like, she's asking me what kind of pictures do I want from her, and she keeps going on about it, and I'm like, it's okay. I don't need anything.

[Popsicle Ad Voice]

What?

[Alexis]

Oh, she wanted a hot picture.

[Leanne]

Oh.

[Jeffrey]

But she's asking what ones that she can send to you, apparently.

[Keith]

But I don't know if they're gonna be 15 years old, too, or what.

[Jeffrey]

Well, it's nice of her to ask what you like.

[Caller/Listener]

Hey, those take work.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah. She's like, do you want one side or do you want both of them?

[Brooke]

It's an awkward. It's an awkward assumption that anyone wants them, period. I mean, you're at the botanical gardens in the daytime, totally sober.

[Keith]

Yeah, exactly. And I told her, I don't need any of that, and she made this weird comment. She was like, oh, you want the real thing?

[Alexis]

Oh. Oh, wow.

[Brooke]

Okay. She was married for a long time. Maybe she's, like, living out what she

[Alexis]

didn't get to do before.

[Brooke]

Or maybe she thinks that this is how dating works now, you know?

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, she's trying it out.

[Keith]

It's one thing to be trying it out, but she literally suggested they had this little plant shop in the garden, and she suggested we go behind it and do things.

[Jeffrey]

What is happening, Vanessa?

[Brooke]

Dude, I would have been mortified.

[Jeffrey]

I did not get that vibe from her when we were talking to her her before.

[Brooke]

How did you even respond?

[Keith]

I had no time to respond. She was like, there's nobody in the women's restroom.

[Brooke]

What is happening?

[Jeffrey]

And that was all a turnoff to you?

[Keith]

Oh, yeah, it was that and then having to sit down and drink tea casually after that.

[Brooke]

Oh, God.

[Bobcat Ad Voice]

Wow.

[Alexis]

After you, like, lowy rejected her.

[Brooke]

Make awkward eye contact the entire time.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, well, the good news is you won't have to worry about awkward eye contact in this situation because she is on the line.

[Brooke]

Oh, Vanessa.

[Jeffrey]

So you can't see her, but she does want to talk to you.

[Brooke]

Oh, wow.

[Carson]

Oh, my gosh.

[Keith]

She literally heard all of that?

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, I think she needed to think so. Vanessa, you there?

[Vanessa]

Yeah, yeah, I'm here.

[Alexis]

Vanessa, you dog.

[Vanessa]

I mean, like, that's just what men want, right? And that's just how I am. I'm very active. Like, you know, I have a very high drive.

[Alexis]

Oh, wow. Okay.

[Vanessa]

I didn't know I was dating a snowflake.

[Jeffrey]

Excuse me?

[Alexis]

Yeah, you was.

[Popsicle Ad Voice]

Come on, man.

[Vanessa]

I mean, if you're not gonna be, you know, a man, then I'm gonna have to take the initiative.

[Brooke]

What are you talking.

[Jeffrey]

Keith, she's calling you out, dude. What do you have to say to that?

[Carson]

Whoa.

[Keith]

Do you think taking initiative is going behind a plant shop? It doesn't have to be like that. That's too much.

[Vanessa]

Well, it was the perfect opportunity. Nobody was there.

[Leanne]

What?

[Keith]

It's the first date. We don't do that.

[Brooke]

Oh, my God.

[Carson]

Men these days.

[Vanessa]

Men these days.

[Alexis]

A lot of people would like this.

[Brooke]

I don't.

[Caller/Listener]

If it was a Netflix and chilled it, you wouldn't be shocked. It's the gardens. Really threw it off.

[Keith]

I mean, put yourself in my shoes for a second. After the date, she starts sending me weird messages to come over. She's telling me that she has these adult movies on Blu Ray.

[Jeffrey]

On Blu Ray?

[Brooke]

That's still a thing?

[Alexis]

Putting in an adult movie?

[Brooke]

Vanessa scratched. Let me fix that.

[Alexis]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

Vanessa, you have those?

[Vanessa]

Well, those were my husband's. I got them in the divorce.

[Caller/Listener]

Good for you.

[Jeffrey]

It's nice of you to offer to share that with your dates, though. That's really sweet.

[Brooke]

But your date isn't responding to any of your text messages, and you keep going.

[Vanessa]

Well, he never said no.

[Brooke]

Yeah, but he didn't say yes, you know?

[Jeffrey]

Well, now this is a good chance for him to say yes, because we're going to offer to send you two out on another date. And, Keith, if you're. If you're open to trying this and giving Vanessa another chance, we'll pay for it.

[Brooke]

I mean, you know what you're going to get this time around.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, I mean, she says herself that she's very forward. She's open. She's just putting herself out there. Only because she felt such a good connection with you, I'm assuming so.

[Brooke]

It sounded like such a sweet, innocent day. I still can't get over.

[Ashton]

It was.

[Jeffrey]

It was sweet and innocent.

[Caller/Listener]

I will never look at a botanical garden the same she did.

[Brooke]

I didn't want it to be sweet and innocent.

[Jeffrey]

Well, maybe the next one can be a little bit better, because we'll pay for it. Keith, if you say yes to another date with her.

[Keith]

Absolutely not.

[Alexis]

Okay.

[Vanessa]

You're. You're such a wimp.

[Brooke]

I mean, really, I think that you like going forward in your dating life. Vanessa maybe should be a little more upfront about what you're looking for.

[Jeffrey]

Full up in frontal is what people are looking for.

[Brooke]

I mean it sounds like your game to do that before you even meet anyone.

[Vanessa]

So yeah, my, my, my, my grandkids told me about tender so I think I want to jump on that.

[Alexis]

Oh my God.

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[Jeffrey]

I need to hear from our listeners. Text in at 78592 if you've ever successfully fooled around in a botanical garden. The more I say it, the hotter it sounds.

[Brooke]

Has anyone ever, I mean, I don't think you'd get caught. Cause nobody would suspect it. Yeah, seriously, it's not like they're knocking on the door to the bathroom if you've been in there for too long.

[Alexis]

Actually, if I saw two people kissing in a botanical garden, I'd be like, like, ooh. Their first kiss ever.

[Brooke]

Their grandparents.

[Caller/Listener]

Especially her. Yeah, how she comes off. Look at her and suspect it.

[Brooke]

We didn't even really Go back to the fact that she basically catfished him. Yeah, yeah, that was kind of incident though.

[Alexis]

She doesn't know what catfishing is.

[Brooke]

I don't know. She was a lot more seasoned than we gave her credit for.

[Alexis]

It's true.

[Jeffrey]

But my guess is that Brooke is thinking the exact same thing that I am. Where have all the loose men gone on?

[Alexis]

Where did they go?

[Jeffrey]

They used to be roaming all over.

[Alexis]

Guys, why are you keeping it zipped up nowadays?

[Brooke]

Why do you men have self respect?

[Carson]

I know.

[Jeffrey]

It's just a different day and age now. People are hesitant to get freaky behind plant shops in broad daylight.

[Carson]

Yeah.

[Alexis]

Wow.

[Brooke]

I never thought we'd be here, Jeff.

[Leanne]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

Anyway, listening to us on the podcast right now, make sure you hit that subscribe button. And if you need help in your dating life, you can always email the show. We'll call that person who's not calling you back.

[Show Announcer]

Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.

[Jeffrey]

Every single guy knows that if you're picking up a lady in your whip, you need to make sure it's looking clean and smelling like success.

[Brooke]

Oh, okay.

[Jeffrey]

That's the first step in tricking her into thinking you're a responsible adult. She won't have any clue that your floor was strewn with empty Red Bull cans and old McDonald's wrappers like, two hours ago. And I know one of our little listener wishes that he would have done a better job tidying up his vehicle because his entire night was ruined when his date reached down and pulled something out from between the seats. It was definitely incriminating and left all of us in shock. You're gonna hear it in your brand new second date update.

[Show Announcer]

Next, Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning second date update.

[Jeffrey]

For a lot of guys on the dating apps, coming up with the perfect opener is like painting the Mona Lisa.

[Alexis]

Wow. Takes a lot of time, huh?

[Leanne]

Pure art.

[Jeffrey]

You just put something down, stand back, you study it, add a little word here, adjust that line there.

[Brooke]

Take off the eyebrows there.

[T-Mobile Legal/Disclaimer Voice]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

Toss in an extra emoji. Delete that pun. And after four hours, you finally send her Four hours. Hey, what's up?

[Caller/Listener]

Yep,

[Jeffrey]

no response.

[Brooke]

But you put hay in there, which is, like, so personal.

[Alexis]

You shouldn't have used the apostrophe.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, is that what it was? I thought the three question marks were gonna work, but today we have a listener who says he actually put in some work, real work, into figuring out an opening line with a 60% reply rate, which is extremely high for guys on these apps.

[Caller/Listener]

Is it?

[Jeffrey]

That's very, very high.

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

What's the average? Like, 2% reply rate?

[Discover Ad Voice]

Maybe lower.

[Brooke]

How many messages are you guys sending?

[Jeffrey]

It's very difficult. His name is Carson. So, Carson, welcome to the show, ma'.

[Ashton]

Am.

[Carson]

How you doing, guys?

[Brooke]

Oh, are you gonna let him deliver the line?

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, I don't know what the line is. I'm curious. I don't have it written. So, like, what kind of line are we working with here, Carson?

[Carson]

Like, we don't even need to talk. But I was wondering if you would critique my profile. I'm new here.

[Brooke]

Oh, Alexa.

[Carson]

Interesting.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, what do you think about that, Alexis? An invitation to critique his profile?

[Caller/Listener]

I don't know, but it's tricking you

[Alexis]

into looking him up.

[Brooke]

Yeah, but aren't they then looking at your profile with a negative view?

[Caller/Listener]

That's what I was gonna say, because you're only gonna pick out negative stuff

[Brooke]

to be funny about. You're not gonna say, but it's a conversation.

[Jeffrey]

So Alexis is in the 40% that would not reply to this, or I'd

[Caller/Listener]

probably reply something so rude that they don't reply back.

[Jeffrey]

Well, even, like.

[Caller/Listener]

I'd be like, this photo's terrible.

[Jeffrey]

Even that. I mean, that's a response in itself. That's a win, right, Carson? Even if it's mean.

[Carson]

Yeah, I mean, it did lead to someone. Her name is Leanne.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, Leanne.

[Carson]

Okay.

[T-Mobile Ad Voice]

She said.

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

What was her critique?

[Carson]

She said I should smile more in photos because I look too serious.

[Brooke]

Oh, that's a nice one.

[Leanne]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

Okay. Yeah, if you have a good smile, then you should be showing that off. And women would like that.

[Alexis]

And pro tip. Girls will love it when you tell them that too. Yeah, you should smile more. You look so good.

[Jeffrey]

You smile just in the photos.

[Leanne]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

So did you send her a personal pic of you smiling?

[Carson]

I did not. I said, well, you should see my smile in person.

[Brooke]

Oh, even better.

[Carson]

She said, okay.

[Brooke]

Oh, she said, okay.

[Jeffrey]

And you're like, look to your left out your window right now, and you're smiling.

[Brooke]

So what did you guys do for your date then?

[Carson]

I offered to pick her up.

[Discover Ad Voice]

Oh.

[Carson]

And we ended. We ended up going to a steakhouse.

[Alexis]

That's awesome.

[Brooke]

That's wanting to impress her with the steak dinner. I mean, you must really like this woman.

[Carson]

You know what? She's great. You know, we went to the steakhouse. Things went really well. It was everything I hoped it would be.

[Brooke]

I want to hear some highlights.

[Jeffrey]

Did you smile at her the whole time?

[Carson]

I tried to smile more. Yes. Good.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, make sure she sees that.

[Caller/Listener]

It could Be creepy if it's too much.

[Alexis]

That's all he did.

[Jeffrey]

Hey, how's your stage?

[Brooke]

With a steak knife in hand. What did you guys connect over?

[Carson]

Well, she's ruling the sports. I'm a big sports guy, so that's cool. That was an instant connection. We like similar kinds of music.

[Brooke]

Okay.

[Jeffrey]

I mean, this all sounds really good. There was nothing awkward that happened on the date.

[Carson]

Everything was great. The awkward moment was on the way home.

[Ashton]

Okay.

[Carson]

She saw something between the seats of my car.

[Ashton]

Uh. Oh.

[Carson]

And she reached out, she pulled it out, and it was a canister of lipstick.

[Alexis]

No.

[Carson]

Oh, I know, I know that looks really bad. It probably looked like I was on another date, but.

[Alexis]

Or you just tell her, like, look, that's not my shade.

[Brooke]

Yeah, you know, at least you own

[Alexis]

it a little bit.

[Jeffrey]

I have mine at home.

[Brooke]

Yeah, I mean, anyone could have dropped it in your car. It fallen out of a pocket.

[Alexis]

I don't know. Sister or friend or.

[Brooke]

What did she say?

[Carson]

Well, she. She certainly wanted to know where it came from. And I was.

[Keith]

I was.

[Carson]

I was honest with her. You know, I borrowed my ex girlfriend's car.

[Brooke]

Wait, you were driving your ex girlfriend's car?

[Alexis]

It wasn't your car?

[Caller/Listener]

Oh, no. That's worse than.

[Leanne]

Just.

[Jeffrey]

Did that totally smooth everything over for the conversation?

[Alexis]

Tell her that.

[Carson]

You know, mine was in the shop. I was trying to be straight up with her. Obviously the vibe kind of changed at that point.

[Brooke]

Why didn't you just say a friend?

[Carson]

If I could go back and change it, I think I would.

[Alexis]

That is it.

[Vanessa]

Yeah.

[Carson]

Stop. It looked like I looked. I thought I was getting a good night kiss. Everything was great. Obviously that didn't happen.

[Keith]

Oh, yeah, that's.

[Carson]

That's why I'm here. I'm hoping maybe you guys can help me.

[Alexis]

Wait, and now she's not calling you back? Like you haven't smoothed it over yet?

[Carson]

No, I haven't heard from her since about a week or so.

[Alexis]

So everything was going good. Circumstance.

[Brooke]

What's the relationship with you and your ex? Before we call her, they're on good

[Jeffrey]

terms Enough for her to let her borrow the car.

[Alexis]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

How good of terms? Like?

[Carson]

Like, we were always friends. We tried to date. It didn't work out. We're still friends.

[Alexis]

That's so cool you guys can do that.

[Caller/Listener]

Okay, that sounds different when you try to date somebody.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

So I mean, like, you could describe her as a friend instead of an ex.

[Popsicle Ad Voice]

For sure.

[Keith]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

Did you get a chance to explain that to Leanne?

[Carson]

I didn't get A chance to. Because we were so close to her house. That was kind of the end of it.

[Jeffrey]

Honestly, it's probably for the best. You don't probably want to be gloating about how great of a relationship you have with your ex girlfriend on a first date with somebody else.

[Brooke]

I'm sorry. If you're driving her car, you're gonna want to explain something. Like, it's better than we're still sleeping together.

[Alexis]

What answer is good? When you're like, she's the best, or you're like, oh, I hate her.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, you're driving her car.

[Brooke]

No, I think it's a green flag if someone can get along with their ex. For sure.

[Carson]

Absolutely. You know, well, that's why I'm hoping you guys can get her on the phone and help me explain that to her, because I don't know if she's going to listen to me.

[Brooke]

Okay.

[Jeffrey]

All right, I'm going to let Brooke tackle that. I was going to say the girls

[Brooke]

need to handle this, cuz, like, I'm friends with all sorts of exes.

[Alexis]

Coming from you, it's good. It's easy for a guy. Oh, we're best friends. Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

What's wrong with him hanging out with ex? Anyway, we'll call Leanne for you after this and try and help you get your second date update in just a minute.

[Show Announcer]

Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Second date update.

[Jeffrey]

If you're just joining us, let's quickly recap Carson's first date with a little game of good or bad.

[Caller/Listener]

That's fun.

[Jeffrey]

Steakhouse dinner.

[Brooke]

Good idea.

[Jeffrey]

Good.

[Carson]

Very good.

[Jeffrey]

Lots of smiling. Good. Picking her up in your ex girlfriend's white Jetta. I don't know.

[Caller/Listener]

I had a white Jetta. That's good.

[Brooke]

Every blonde had a white Jet.

[Jeffrey]

Every ex girlfriend drives there.

[Brooke]

I had a blue Jetta.

[Jeffrey]

So we're thinking that's probably the big red flag that's been scaring Leanne away from a second meetup with Carson. But Brooke wisely pointed out, actually, Chris could be seen as a green flag that he doesn't have a toxic relationship with past love interests. Right, Brooke?

[Brooke]

Dude, I think that if you can be friends with an ex, it doesn't mean that you still have feelings for them. It's when you still have feelings is when things get dicey and you can't talk to them and you're angry and everything.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, but what about friends with benefits? No feelings. Is that still okay?

[Brooke]

Well, I mean, it's an X, so it doesn't really count. All right.

[Jeffrey]

Carson does that feel good? Does it give you a little bit of hope before we make this call?

[Carson]

I'm optimistic.

[Brooke]

Okay. But there's no benefits with your ex, right?

[Carson]

No, no, no.

[Leanne]

Okay.

[Caller/Listener]

Okay. Good.

[Brooke]

Good.

[ChatGPT Ad Voice]

Yeah.

[Caller/Listener]

Well, besides the car, he does get to borrow her car, right?

[Brooke]

I meant the different types of.

[Jeffrey]

Not the physical type of benefit. So let's reach out to Leanne. Hopefully she picks up, and we can explain this whole thing and get her to go out with you again.

[Carson]

Okay, Sounds great, guys.

[Brooke]

Here we go.

[Jeffrey]

Dialing it right now. Let's do it.

[Carson]

Hello?

[Jeffrey]

Hey, is this Leanne?

[Leanne]

Yeah, this is her. Who's this?

[Jeffrey]

Well, this is actually. Yeah, a whole ensemble of people called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning. We're a radio show.

[Alexis]

Good morning.

[Leanne]

Good. Good morning.

[Alexis]

Thanks for saying it back. People don't say it back a lot. Yeah, I do appreciate that.

[Brooke]

It's like when you say you're welcome or thank you.

[Alexis]

Yeah. You're a nice person.

[Jeffrey]

Leanne, we're hoping this can be a good morning for you because we're doing something called a second date update.

[Leanne]

Okay. All right. You know, I've seen it. I've seen it on social media.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, you don't sound like you're a fan.

[Discover Ad Voice]

Yeah.

[Leanne]

So.

[Brooke]

Well, thank you for finding on social media. You can go to our podcast too.

[Jeffrey]

She doesn't sound. She didn't sound like she liked it.

[Caller/Listener]

It comes up in the algorithm.

[Brooke]

Always be promoting.

[Caller/Listener]

All right.

[Leanne]

It's always a disaster. It's always some nightmare case.

[Brooke]

Not. That's not true. No, that's not true.

[Alexis]

We only air the disaster.

[Brooke]

Just the ones that go viral.

[Vanessa]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

And we're hoping this is not one of those that you'll never even see this in your feed because we're reaching out based on a date you went with. With a guy named Carson.

[Leanne]

Oh, okay.

[Brooke]

Would you call it a disaster, your day with Carson?

[Leanne]

I don't know. Carson. Like, Carson. What are you doing? Carson?

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, so we spoke to Carson earlier. And. And he had really glowing reviews about the date. Just. What we know from it is that you two connected on a dating app. You said you really liked his smile, had a nice dinner at a steakhouse. There was no kiss at the end. He was a little surprised by that, but.

[Brooke]

No. Disappointed, I think.

[Jeffrey]

Disappointed. But now you're not open to another one, so he's trying to figure out if there's a reason.

[Leanne]

He must have left something out.

[Jeffrey]

I left something out.

[Brooke]

I think you did. Yeah. You did, actually.

[Leanne]

I mean, I would be embarrassed, but he was Driving his ex girlfriend's car.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, yeah, yeah, he did tell us that. I just didn't want to recap that part in case it wasn't a big issue for you. So I was kind of hoping.

[Brooke]

What was your reaction when he told

[Leanne]

you that that's not okay. Why that's not okay? Like, okay, that just means that someone special in your life is still in your life.

[Alexis]

I mean, technically.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, it sounds like you feel threatened by the ex girlfriend a little bit.

[Leanne]

I know. Not that I've just. I've dated guys in similar situations and it always ends bad in my. My personal situation.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, well, that's. That's okay that you can think that, but let Brooke explain to you why you're wrong. Go ahead, Brooke.

[Brooke]

That's not what I'm trying to do. But I do think that you could maybe change your stance on a little bit if you thought of it more as like a green flag. Like, here's a guy who still respects someone that he dated that he. That was. He was close to, and it's good that they can still have a non romantic relationship, right?

[Leanne]

Yeah, I guess. I never considered it that way.

[Brooke]

I mean, have you ever, like, had a friend and then got your feelings kind of mixed up in that friendship? Like, it's hard to have opposite gender friends because you're like, oh my God, how much do I like this person? And then you try out dating and you're like, whoa, I didn't like him that much.

[Jeffrey]

Did you know that was the case with Carson, that he was friends with that girl first before they tried dating and then it didn't work out?

[Brooke]

Yeah, they realized that they weren't meant to be together.

[Leanne]

I mean. No, no. I mean, this is all kind of

[Vanessa]

like a lot in general, but Good point.

[Brooke]

Okay.

[Carson]

Okay.

[Brooke]

Look at you being a reasonable human. I love it.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, so. So is that something that would maybe change your mind a little? Possibly seeing him and giving him another chance?

[Leanne]

Possibly. The radio person? I don't know her name, but like, she did bring up some pretty decent

[Brooke]

points, so I feel like I didn't deliver that well.

[Alexis]

Her name is Alexis. Give her all the credit.

[Jeffrey]

I mean, this all sounds really good to us in the room here, but I bet it sounds even better to Carson, who's been quietly listening on the other line hoping to talk to you.

[Leanne]

Carson has been listening this whole time?

[Brooke]

Are you kidding me? I can hear you smiling through the phone.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, I think he's there. Carson. Carson.

[Carson]

Hey. Hey, guys, I'm here.

[Leanne]

Carson, what are you doing? What are you doing all this for? What is this?

[Brooke]

Look, they are so cute.

[Carson]

I felt a connection with you that I haven't felt with anybody, and I really want to try to make this work.

[Alexis]

That's adorable.

[Leanne]

That's really sweet to hear that from you. Yeah, it is.

[Brooke]

See, he's not like those other guys that you dated that were yucky, you know, with their exes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Carson]

All right, well, look, I need to be 100% honest with you. We're getting it all out there right now.

[Leanne]

Okay?

[Carson]

I do live with. I do live with my ex. That's how I was able to borrow the car.

[Pedigree Ad Voice]

Brooke.

[T-Mobile Legal/Disclaimer Voice]

Brooke.

[Jeffrey]

How dare you support this and say that it was totally innocent and no red flags?

[Brooke]

Why do you live with her?

[Alexis]

Yeah, Brooke, he's different, right?

[Carson]

He's like a sister. It's really not a big deal.

[Brooke]

A sister that you slept with? Don't do that.

[Jeffrey]

No, but they're in a good place now. Brooke, you said it yourself.

[Caller/Listener]

You don't live with your ex.

[Brooke]

That's like. That feels like you were living together and then you broke up and you never moved out. Did you move in together when you were in a relationship?

[Carson]

I mean, I don't know. I don't really remember. There was a lot going on. It just kind of happened. I mean, it's like a timeshare situation for us. We split the rent, we rotate the car. It's a good setup.

[Leanne]

I seriously, like I told you guys, this is all disastrous.

[Carson]

Leanne, look, trust me when I say this, it's not a disaster.

[Brooke]

Oh, God.

[Alexis]

That's a big trouble.

[Brooke]

That's a famous last words.

[Carson]

Why don't you come over this weekend?

[Keith]

We can.

[Carson]

We can hash it out and. It's my weekend to have the master bedroom.

[Brooke]

Wait, what? Oh, there's only one bedroom?

[Jeffrey]

You guys swapped the bed. That's a good living situation.

[Carson]

Hey, it works for us. Don't judge.

[Brooke]

Where do you sleep when you don't have the bedroom?

[Carson]

I mean, the car. That's what it's for.

[Jeffrey]

A car slash bedroom?

[Leanne]

You're living in your car?

[Carson]

Well, only part time.

[Jeffrey]

And remember, it's her car, not his car.

[Brooke]

I have a headache. We have. I'm sorry about that whole green flag thing.

[Jeffrey]

No, it is a green flag. It's a green flag that he is such a good roommate that his ex doesn't even want to let him go. That's how awesome he is to live with.

[Brooke]

Dude, you share a bed that you guys rotate on the weekends.

[Carson]

Hold on. We don't share the bed. When she's in it, I'm not. When I'm in it, she's not. We have a calendar. It's set up.

[Brooke]

The bed calendar.

[Caller/Listener]

He's an organized community kit. I can't say it, man.

[Jeffrey]

Even Alexis is coming around on him now, so.

[Brooke]

Girls love you, bro.

[Leanne]

I mean, this is a nightmare.

[Jeffrey]

It could be your nightmare if you say yes to another date with Carson. And we would pay for that date if you're open to it.

[Brooke]

It will be your nightmare if you say yes.

[Alexis]

No, it's not gonna be your nightmare until it goes viral.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

Oh, yeah.

[Leanne]

I don't want this to go viral. I don't want to go on another date.

[Alexis]

Yeah, if you're.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, no.

[Alexis]

If you're seeing this on socials, do not comment. Do not like this.

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[Jeffrey]

Oh, man, Carson, it's. It sounds like a no from Leanne there.

[Carson]

Oh, Leanne. You know, you didn't complain when I used the ex's debit card to pay for dinner.

[Vanessa]

What?

[Jeffrey]

Wait, you share that too?

[Brooke]

Get out of here.

[Leanne]

You never told me that.

[Brooke]

How would it come up in conversation?

[Alexis]

Yeah, all right, well. Wow.

[Jeffrey]

I mean, Carson, you were worried that the problem was that you picked her up in your ex's car and turns out the issue is that you actually swap beds with your exes because you live together.

[Brooke]

Oh, and your ex pays for everything?

[Jeffrey]

Well, half of half of the time.

[Carson]

I mean, when you say it like that, I think I sound like a pretty good dude.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, God, you're a catch, buddy.

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[Jeffrey]

I mean, dude, how did Carson think that it was okay to withhold that information from us in part one one

[Alexis]

has he said a lot of information

[Jeffrey]

Because Brooke literally asked him, what's your relationship with your ex like? And he said, oh, we're still friends. Didn't mention, oh yeah, we share the same master bed off of a rotating calendar would have been a little bit of a different story for us.

[Brooke]

Sorry, if you have a one bedroom apartment, you can't call it a master bed. It's the only bed.

[Alexis]

I didn't want the call to end because the more he's kept talking, the more independent he is. He uses her debit card, her car, her house.

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What else?

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No, the same toothbrush.

[Jeffrey]

Wouldn't be surprised. But honestly, just be truthful with us up front so Brooke doesn't come off looking as bad as she did.

[Alexis]

Yeah, and that poor girl didn't want this to hit the air. And now because of him, you know what's going on.

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So. And that's why I just want to be honest right now with all of our listeners and tell you the truth that we do have a second date podcast.

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Yes, it's real.

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Somehow it gets millions of downloads every month. Even I did not believe that.

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Go look for yourself.

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It's a great It's a green flag to listen to our podcast though. Binge away at Brooke and Jeffrey Brooke

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