Second Date Update Classics: Hearts & Crafts + One More Refill

Summary

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Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update Classics

Episode: "Hearts & Crafts + One More Refill"
Date: July 25, 2026
Podcast by iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

This “Second Date Update Classics” episode features two classic Second Date Updates, "Hearts & Crafts" and "One More Refill." The main theme is modern dating mishaps and how earnest efforts can still lead to confusion, hilarity, and sometimes cringe, as the Brooke and Jeffrey team helps daters discover the real reasons behind ghosting after first dates.
The show is characterized by its lively banter, playful roasting, and genuine attempts to understand why things went awry on two notably awkward—yet entertaining—first dates.

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First Second Date Update: "Hearts & Crafts"

(Starts ~04:19)

Key Points & Discussion

• Modern Dating Shyness & TikTok Trends

  • Jeffrey opens discussing pressures men face in approaching women, with Gen Z men especially hesitant.
  • Listener Connor used a TikTok-inspired hack: distributing beaded “friendship bracelets” with his phone number, flipping a recent trend where women do the same (05:15-06:57).
  • "I had this random thought, right? I was like, if girls could do it, we should be able to do it too, right?" — Connor (07:02)

• Connor’s “Bracelet” Week

  • Made (with help from a female friend) and distributed about a dozen bracelets; received three responses (07:48-08:07).
  • Not all responses were positive: “One of them just texted me back said, unsubscribe.” — Connor (08:12)
  • The success rate impressed the hosts; Connor dated one respondent, Ainsley.

• The First Date with Ainsley

  • They met for lunch, Ainsley wore her bracelet, and Connor brought her a matching homemade necklace—deemed "corny" but cute (09:04-09:44).
  • Conversation included reality show "Love Island," which they both enjoyed (09:55-10:22).

• Post-Date Confusion

  • Ainsley became unresponsive except for liking texts; Connor sought clarity, feeling they had a real connection (10:28-11:06).

The Call to Ainsley

• Surprise: She’s Interested… Sort Of

  • Ainsley admits she's into Connor but is also seeing someone else and wants to date both a bit before choosing (14:15-15:00).
  • “Let's see what this is like after a couple. I don’t want to burn a bridge.” — Ainsley (15:22)

• Awkward Honesty & Double Standards

  • When Connor discovers Ainsley is dating another guy, he acts surprised even though he himself told the hosts he has “options” (16:49-17:13).
  • The hosts call out the double standard, sparking playful accusations and some embarrassment — “You told us you had other options, too. Isn’t that what dating is?” — Host (17:25)
  • Both agree, awkwardly, to go out again—then promptly backtrack, with Connor suggesting he’ll date someone more decisive (20:24-20:41).

Notable Quotes

• “I really thought I liked you. I thought you liked me. You trying to be with some other guys. That’s cool, that’s fine. But listen, I do have another girl, okay?” — Connor (20:25)
• “Thanks for calling and ruining my day a little bit, I guess.” — Ainsley (21:03)
• “Are you sure about that?” — Connor (21:15), leaving the door open for future reconsideration.

Tone & Memorable Moments

• The segment captures contemporary confusion and “option fatigue” in dating—both parties unsure, flip-flopping, and the hosts delighting in the exchange’s reality TV vibe.
• “It is funny that these two were kind of like a real couple on Love Island… Except in the end, they voted each other off.” — Jeffrey (23:33)

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Second Second Date Update: "One More Refill"

(Starts ~25:04)

Key Points & Discussion

• Card and Amy’s Dinner Date

  • Card met Amy on Bumble, impressing her with the answer: “Never date someone who claps when the plane lands.” (27:55-28:01)
  • Despite a late dinner reservation (9:30PM), Amy agreed, and the pair stayed at the restaurant past closing (31:03-31:07).

• The Date Devolves

  • Amy, a former server, was mortified by how long they lingered, feeling it disrespected the staff (34:30-35:16).
  • Card repeatedly stalled on ordering and even on paying the bill, citing love of "ambiance," which Amy found exasperating (35:54-36:13).
  • "If you say ambiance one more time, I swear to God." — Amy (36:13)

• The Real Reason: A Paycheck Stall

  • The truth emerges: Card’s pay didn’t hit his account until midnight; he stalled on paying because he didn’t have the funds and has no credit card (38:01-39:09).
  • “Fine. I was a little low on funds. The cell phone company I work for doesn’t pay me till midnight on Friday.” — Card (38:01)
  • Amy is not sympathetic: “That’s the dumbest I’ve ever heard in my life.” (38:28)

Notable Quotes

• “He kept going, ‘I like the ambiance. I like the ambiance.’ If you say ambiance one more time, I swear to God.” — Amy (36:13)
• “Why didn’t you just schedule it for a later date? What is wrong?” — Amy (38:36)
• “I don’t have a credit card. I don’t trust myself to carry one.” — Card (39:06)
• "Instead of Cinderella, I got one of the wicked stepsister." — Card (39:38)

Tone & Memorable Moments

• Playful Cinderella allusions throughout; the hosts tease Card’s financial realism while also commiserating.
• The date’s unraveling is pure cringe comedy, with the panel both sympathetic and critical.
• “At least he didn’t make you pay.” — Host (40:01)

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Episode Reflections & Final Thoughts

(Starts ~23:02, and 43:05)

• The hosts wrap the episode reflecting on "dating option overload" and financial awkwardness as microcosms of modern dating woes.
• “It’s like going to a restaurant like the Cheesecake Factory and the menu’s too big and you can never make up your mind.” — Host (23:14)
• Jeffrey and Brooke debate whether being debt-averse is actually attractive—a tie-in to Card’s cautiousness.
• “Dude, a guy who is willing to not get a credit card to avoid going into debt is a stable guy.” — Host (44:01)

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Key Segment Timestamps

• 04:19 – "Hearts & Crafts" (Connor’s bracelet dating experiment)
• 11:37 – Recap of Connor’s situation and preparation to call Ainsley
• 13:13 – The call and conversation with Ainsley
• 16:49-19:55 – Connor and Ainsley accused of a double standard
• 25:04 – "One More Refill" (Card’s late-night restaurant date with Amy)
• 34:30 – Amy's perspective and frustration as a former server
• 38:01 – Card reveals he stalled because his paycheck hadn’t hit
• 40:01 – Final exchange; Amy refuses a second date
• 43:05 – Host reflections and playful debate about dating realities

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The Brooke & Jeffrey Tone

• Fast-paced, playful, sometimes intentionally awkward.
• Hosts freely roast both their listeners and each other, but always with a sense of humor.
• Blunt but well-meaning, finding the “entertainment” (and the humanity) in modern dating fails.

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Takeaways for Listeners

• The episode is a comedic, candid snapshot of the pitfalls and paradoxes of dating in the app era—and the secondhand embarrassment that can come along for the ride.
• It highlights the importance of honesty, basic consideration for others (like servers!), and the challenges of navigating expectations—your own and those of your dates.

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Listen to the full episode for more banter, cringe, and cathartic catharsis at the expense of romantic mishaps!

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[Brooke]

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[Card]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

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[Brooke]

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[Host 2]

He wants to know you, I'll tell you that. Okay, again, YouTube Brooke and Jeffrey. But first comments before we get to these classics. Yeah. Aaron said, I've been away on my honeymoon and didn't listen to any podcasts

[Amy]

while we were away.

[Host 2]

But I'm back now and I love that I have a stockpile. I can binge again.

[Brooke]

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[Host 2]

Happy marriage. Yeah. I can't believe you didn't listen to us on your honeymoon. Loki offended. Who else did you have to pay attention to?

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

What? All right, let's get to it. Starts right now.

[Jeffrey]

As a guy, I can tell you a lot of men feel this pressure when approaching a woman to say something funny or clever. Something Jeff. Like, right off the bat, Something Jeff.

[Host 2]

Like that's how they're describing it.

[Jeffrey]

To catch the girl's attention and get positive momentum.

[Host 2]

Because we know your success rate has been.

[Jeffrey]

See, Brooke's talking to me right now just because of whatever I just said. I don't even know it was so Jeff. Like. Unfortunately, though, that pressure can feel so intense, it breaks the will of even the chillest of bros. Oh, no, not the chillest. To the point they just don't even try to attempt it anymore. Okay, but one of our listeners found a sweet little hack where you can exchange numbers in person without uttering a single word to each other, and women seem to really like it. You're going to hear how he was able to exchange digits. Get a date. Zero words spoken in your brand new second date update.

[Announcer]

Next, Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Second date update.

[Jeffrey]

We've been seeing studies lately, and we've talked about this on the show, where more and more men, especially Gen Z guys, are scared to approach women in person and try to strike up a conversation.

[Announcer]

Very scary.

[Host 2]

That gender, very intimidating.

[Jeffrey]

Which is different than me, who doesn't approach anybody in person because I'm a shy boy. Shy boy gets nervous.

[Host 2]

But like Jeff, that's actually Jeff's real personality. So everyone knows.

[Jeffrey]

Don't tell them. Just like Jeff Goldblum said in Jurassic park, life finds a way. And so did our listener Connor, because in his email to us, he said he's trying something new to meet people more organically these days and watching TikTok to find creative ways to do that. So, Connor, welcome to the show, man. How you doing?

[Connor]

I'm doing all right, brother. How you doing?

[Host 2]

Hey, there's nothing more organic than following TikTok trends, my friends.

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

Hey, they help.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, I am a little bit shy just to talk to you and ask, but what did you find on TikTok that helped your dating life?

[Connor]

I came across this trend where apparently these girls are putting their phone numbers on these bracelets, right? And they see a guy they like, they give them a bracelet.

[Host 2]

Okay, wait, real quick. I'm picturing, like, the Taylor Swift friendship bracelet. It is those.

[Connor]

Oh, that's what.

[Amy]

Yeah, it is.

[Host 2]

Why do you know so quickly? Because I'm on TikTok.

[Jeffrey]

I can see the merit in it because then you don't have to, like, say words to each other.

[Brooke]

Yeah. And if the guy doesn't call you, then you're like, cool. I just gave him a gift, and he's got a nice little free brace.

[Host 2]

Yeah, he's totally gonna wear that.

[Brooke]

He's not, but.

[Jeffrey]

So, wait, Connor, how did that help you?

[Connor]

I had this random thought, right? I was like, if girls could do it, we should be able to do it too, right?

[Host 2]

That's right, my friend. Make your friendship bracelets.

[Jeffrey]

All right. So you did some arts and crafts for yourself?

[Connor]

Actually, I got one of my lady friends to help me to make this

[Host 2]

smart to string some beads.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, we'd be lost.

[Host 2]

So, I mean, honestly, it feels like it would work better the reverse the way you're doing it.

[Brooke]

It's funny.

[Connor]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

If it's bad and Clunky rather than. It's, like, cute.

[Host 2]

A woman would really appreciate it.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, a little kooky maybe, but is this something that you put on just for when you're going out for the night, or do you wear the bracelets or all the time, even at work, just in case you meet someone?

[Host 2]

I imagined him having the bracelets in his pocket and then pulling them out and giving them to someone.

[Brooke]

Yeah, all the time, though. Like, you always have them on deck.

[Jeffrey]

That's what I'm saying. 24, 7. Are they on you?

[Connor]

To be honest with you, this is new to me, right. So I kind of wanted to just try it out for just a full week.

[Host 2]

Oh, wow.

[Jeffrey]

Okay. So how many bracelets total did you give out in that week?

[Connor]

Probably like a dozen.

[Host 2]

Okay, not too many.

[Jeffrey]

Like, a lot.

[Host 2]

How many callbacks did you get?

[Connor]

So I got three.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, that's 25% one in four. Yeah.

[Connor]

One of them just texted me back, said, unsubscribe.

[Host 2]

Oh, that's funny.

[Jeffrey]

Kind of funny, Borderline.

[Host 2]

Really good.

[Jeffrey]

But yeah, that's. That's funny.

[Host 2]

You know, she's probably with her friends doing it.

[Connor]

Okay.

[Jeffrey]

And so I'm assuming that's the girl that we're calling then today.

[Connor]

No, no, not that. Unsubscribe.

[Host 2]

No, he followed the rules. He really did unsubscribe her, honestly.

[Connor]

I hit it off with this girl named Ainsley.

[Host 2]

Ainsley. Ainsley.

[Jeffrey]

Okay. I mean, you've given out so many bracelets throughout the whole week. Did you remember which girl Ainsley was?

[Connor]

To be honest, at first, I didn't.

[Host 2]

Okay. Oh, no, that's all right. You didn't tell her that, did you?

[Connor]

No, I didn't, but we. We did a picture exchange, so I knew who I was talking to.

[Jeffrey]

Good, good.

[Brooke]

She sent you a pic.

[Jeffrey]

You sent me a pic of faces. I'm guessing that's probably.

[Brooke]

I'm glad she remembered you. She said, like, five guys gave me bracelets last week.

[Host 2]

Was there a date?

[Card]

Yeah, it was.

[Connor]

We got some lunch.

[Host 2]

You got lunch?

[Announcer]

Lunch.

[Host 2]

Okay, that makes sense. Like, random guy involved, hands, bracelet. Let's do daytime. Smart girl.

[Jeffrey]

What was it like meeting her a second time?

[Connor]

She was still wearing her bracelet, so I guess that's a good thing.

[Announcer]

Yeah.

[Connor]

And I actually brought her a matching homemade necklace.

[Jeffrey]

It's kind of corny, but to match her bracelet. Okay. And I'm assuming your lady friend helped you make that one, too. But we won't tell Amy.

[Host 2]

I bet he'd figure. Figured it out by then.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

You just Need a longer string. That's all a necklace takes.

[Brooke]

My boys got custom earrings with their name on, too.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, he's got the whole set.

[Host 2]

What do you write on the necklace? Because you'd already put your phone number on the bracelet.

[Jeffrey]

Social Security number on this one.

[Card]

No, no, no.

[Connor]

I just, you know, I put a little note like, you're special.

[Host 2]

Cute.

[Jeffrey]

Did she like the necklace?

[Connor]

Because apparently it reminded her of the show called Love Island.

[Host 2]

Alexis, I don't know where this is in the show.

[Jeffrey]

All the Gen Z things. Friendship, brace, bracelets, Taylor Swift, Love Island.

[Host 2]

Maybe she's just trying to make conversations.

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Announcer]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

Okay.

[Jeffrey]

So you guys talked about Love Island?

[Connor]

Yeah. Well, you know what? I'm kind of a fan of Love island just a little bit, bro.

[Brooke]

It's like everyone's guilty pleasure. I just saw a video of someone's boyfriend going nuts over it.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, it's everywhere right now.

[Brooke]

It's drama. Anyway, sorry.

[Connor]

It's a lot going on, but we hung out for a bit over an

[Jeffrey]

hour, and that's good.

[Connor]

I expected a little more, but we hugged and it was a good time.

[Host 2]

That sounds cute.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

I mean, that's all an appropriate ending for a lunch date, right?

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

And have you talked at all?

[Connor]

You know, all she really does, like, likes my text or I see that she reads them. I'm kind of left on red, you know? But I think it's worth reaching out again and just kind of seeing what's going on, because I thought we really connected. And even the Love island thing was so nice to have somebody else be a fan of that show. So we're kind of on the same frequency. You feel me?

[Brooke]

She's maybe saying the same. Because it's, you know, Love island, like you would think she's saying. Oh, I'm so glad I found a guy who's into it.

[Connor]

Right?

[Jeffrey]

Let's call her and find out, man. We're going to come back. We'll reach out to Ainsley for you.

[Host 2]

Wait, what do we do? Like, I don't. I haven't watched a show to welcome into the villa or something. Like, we have to meet at the fire pit.

[Jeffrey]

Okay.

[Brooke]

I'm going to.

[Host 2]

A new bombshell could come in and throw it on. What happened to just a simple rose on these shows?

[Jeffrey]

No, I'm going to hop on Amazon. We're going to order a portable fire pit, throw on our bikinis and come back and do your second date update, Love island style, right after this.

[Connor]

Thank you.

[Jeffrey]

All right, man, hold on.

[Announcer]

Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning. Second date update.

[Jeffrey]

We just learned the hot new way to meet women, and that's friendship bracelets with your phone number on them. Oh, yeah. It's an idea our listener Connor found on TikTok, where women are doing this to meet guys now. So he thought, why can't a cool, confident man do it, too?

[Host 2]

It worked. It's fine. I mean, it worked multiple times for him.

[Jeffrey]

It sure did. And that's how he met Ainsley.

[Host 2]

It's really cute.

[Jeffrey]

The two of them met up for a date, talked a lot about the show Love Island. But since then, she hasn't been responding to him very much. And Connor is now starting to wonder if he just got voted off of her Love Island. Connor, how you feeling, man?

[Connor]

I'm good. I might still have some options.

[Host 2]

Okay, so you got. Wait, you got a backup plan then?

[Connor]

Yeah, you know, I got a few other options.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, okay. Well, we can call all of your options when we're done with this first option.

[Brooke]

Ainsley, do options all have bracelets?

[Host 2]

I gotta know if you've got backup bracelets for next week. Like, how many extras did you make that haven't been passed around?

[Connor]

Well, actually, I don't think I needed much extras. I mean, I'm not a bad looking guy.

[Host 2]

All right, coming with the confidence, but didn't you say like, 3 out of 12 text?

[Jeffrey]

Okay, well, still, that's a high. That's a high success rate for a man. So let's go. Keep that confidence going. I'm gonna dial Ainsley's number right now. Hopefully she picks up.

[Connor]

Sounds good.

[Jeffrey]

All right, here we go.

[Connor]

Hello?

[Jeffrey]

Hey, we're looking to speak with Ainsley.

[Amy]

Yeah, this is her. Who's calling?

[Jeffrey]

We're a radio show. We're called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning. Ainsley, I'm offended that you don't recognize us by our voices alone.

[Host 2]

We're not.

[Announcer]

It happens daily.

[Host 2]

Makes sense.

[Amy]

Yeah. Okay. Like, what's going on? Did I win something?

[Jeffrey]

No, you clearly haven't listened to the radio in a very long time. We don't give away anything.

[Host 2]

There's no budget.

[Brooke]

Actually, we may ask for money by

[Jeffrey]

the end of this, actually, so get your Venmo ready. But what we're doing is a segment here. It's called a Second date Update.

[Amy]

Okay.

[Card]

Okay.

[Jeffrey]

And that's something where we reach out to people who've gone out with somebody before. That person is not calling our listener back. And we're trying to figure out why.

[Amy]

Oh, that's awkward.

[Jeffrey]

Totally. Which is why we put it on for entertainment purposes.

[Amy]

Perfect.

[Host 2]

It could be fun, though. It could be somebody that you really like.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah. And in this case, it's a guy named Connor.

[Amy]

Oh. Yeah. I think. I think I would like to maybe go out with him again. He was nice.

[Host 2]

Oh.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, you would?

[Host 2]

That was easy. I feel like you.

[Brooke]

Okay, bye.

[Host 2]

I feel like you've auditioned for a reality show before.

[Amy]

I mean, it's just that the thing is, like, there's this other guy who's also pursuing me, and I just. I'm trying to be fair and, like, figure out what's going on, because I like both.

[Host 2]

Okay.

[Brooke]

Okay.

[Jeffrey]

Another person in the picture.

[Card]

Okay.

[Host 2]

Who's the competition? What are you working with here?

[Brooke]

Brooke? What does that mean?

[Host 2]

I need to know what our boy Connor is up against.

[Amy]

You know, I mean, he's a really nice guy. Listen, they're both nice, but I don't really want to lead either one of them on because it's kind of early. So I just kind of want to see how it progresses. Like, date each one of them a couple times and kind of get to know them so that I can actually make a choice.

[Host 2]

So you are going to call Connor back and go out with him again, too?

[Card]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

Because Connor is the one who gave you a bracelet, if you remember.

[Amy]

I do remember. I still have it. It was really.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, but the other guy didn't give you any handmade jewelry and a necklace.

[Amy]

No, you're right. I don't have any other handmade jewelry. And it was super cute.

[Jeffrey]

That's a few points that Connor already has up on this other.

[Host 2]

I like this.

[Amy]

That's what I'm saying. Like, they're really sweet, and it's like, everybody can be sweet on the first date. Like, let's. Let's see what this is like after a couple. I don't want to burn a bridge.

[Host 2]

Okay, but you're burning a bridge right now by not responding to him. All you're doing is liking his text.

[Card]

Yeah.

[Amy]

Oh, yeah. I mean, I just don't want to lead anyone on, and I don't know, maybe I'm not going about it the right way. So it's like, yes, I'm definitely still interested in Connor, but I also don't want him to think that I'm like, both feet in gun ho right out the gate, and then it's like, oh, this doesn't work out. And then, like, be, like, really crushing.

[Host 2]

I think you are going 80 steps ahead of yourself yourself here. You guys have had one lunch date. You know, I think if you were just honest with him and told him you liked him. That would make. Wouldn't that make you feel good as a guy?

[Amy]

I mean. Yeah, that's why I'm willing to go out with him. I mean, everything you're saying makes sense. So I guess we think about this a little differently.

[Jeffrey]

Well, I think Connor would feel very reassured if you actually relayed that message to him, because he's in the middle right now, unsure of where your head is at.

[Brooke]

We're voting for Connor.

[Amy]

Yeah. That's fair.

[Brooke]

Text in your text, Conor.

[Jeffrey]

Well, I think there's a really good opportunity.

[Brooke]

I don't think we need.

[Jeffrey]

I don't think we need any of that because there's a good chance for you to tell him those feelings directly since he is already on the phone right now waiting to speak with you.

[Amy]

Oh, well, that's awkward. Okay.

[Jeffrey]

Like I said, that's what we enjoy about this segment, so.

[Brooke]

Yeah. Brook and Jeffrey Island.

[Jeffrey]

Connor, you there? Do you want to say hi to Ainsley?

[Connor]

I didn't know you were hanging out with somebody else, but I guess that's cool.

[Card]

Okay.

[Amy]

Okay. So, like, it wouldn't bother you if I'm kind of just seeing you both for a couple weeks and seeing who I really connect with?

[Card]

Yeah,

[Connor]

I don't know if it bothers me, but I think it's a little weird. Yeah.

[Amy]

Like, what does that mean?

[Jeffrey]

Connor, don't blow this. You had a yes when I was talking to her that she already wanted to see you, but suddenly you came on. You say one thing and it's flipped to an, I don't know, stick up for yourself.

[Host 2]

No, wait, why are you being defense? Like, I'm confused, Connor, because you told us you had other options, too. I mean, isn't that what dating is?

[Connor]

Listen, don't tell her that. I mean, that was between you and me, right?

[Jeffrey]

Yeah. Brooke, what are you doing? You're trying to submarine him?

[Host 2]

She has options. He has options. Everyone who's single has options. That's what it is.

[Jeffrey]

It's something that we all acknowledge, but we don't actually talk about. Brooke, it's a secret.

[Host 2]

Well, that's the problem. It doesn't need to be a secret, Connor. You don't need to, like, feign like you're upset about it. You can't be upset about it if you're doing the same thing.

[Jeffrey]

You don't have to have anybody tell you how to feel about how to live your life. Connor, it's okay. Just talk to Ainsley.

[Connor]

Honestly, I'm not upset about it. Right? I'm just a little bit surprised. I thought you and me, we were really trying to work this out. You just seem like a dope, awesome person. I kind of feel like we're a good match.

[Host 2]

Oh, that is so cute, Ainsley.

[Amy]

Listen, Connor, I. Honestly, it's really sweet, and I really do appreciate how genuine you are, and you seem like a really good guy. So, I mean, yeah, I mean, I do think we could probably go out again. You know, see what happens.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, here we go.

[Connor]

We're back.

[Jeffrey]

Connor, well done.

[Connor]

I. That's amazing to hear. I just kind of want to be on the same page with you. So you're gonna pass on this next guy, right? Because we're. We're chilling. We're getting to know each other. Oh.

[Host 2]

Oh, you want to be exclusive?

[Amy]

What?

[Connor]

You know, I'm just trying to figure this out.

[Card]

Right?

[Connor]

So are you saying you want to see me, or are you want to still see him or, like, what's going on?

[Amy]

Wow. Okay, so, like, now you're giving off some pretty serious jealous vibes, and I'm really not into that.

[Host 2]

I don't know that that's the case. I mean, Connor, you would be doing the same thing, right? Like, you would be only seeing her. Like.

[Connor]

Yeah, yeah, that's exactly what I'm talking about. I'm not seeing anybody.

[Amy]

You literally just said you had other options. Like, maybe it's a better idea if we don't go out.

[Brooke]

Wait, what now we're going back again?

[Host 2]

Ainsley, here's the thing. Like, how do you. He's just saying, let's really actually try this instead of not.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah. Connor, remind her of the good times that you two had together.

[Connor]

Yeah, we bonded over Love Island. I gave you the friendship bracelet. And in this necklace.

[Amy]

Yeah, okay, I did like that. Maybe. Maybe we should hang out then.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, well, it's. At this point, I caution Connor to not say any other words whatsoever, because anything thing that you say could have a detrimental impact on Ainsley's decision here for a second date.

[Host 2]

Maybe they should just go to a movie so they don't have to talk.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, I'm just going to officially ask now, now that she seems to be on board again. Connor, are you still cool with this? Do you want to hang out with Ainsley?

[Card]

Honestly?

[Jeffrey]

Yeah.

[Card]

I don't know,

[Jeffrey]

Connor. Dude, all you had to say is yes.

[Connor]

Yeah. You know, but I just don't know if we should.

[Host 2]

This is why so exhausting. Just a choice.

[Jeffrey]

So now, Connor, you don't want to

[Brooke]

go out with Ainsley.

[Host 2]

Oh my God.

[Connor]

Okay, listen, I really thought I liked you. I thought you liked me. You trying to be with some other guys. That's cool, that's fine. But listen, I do have another girl, okay? And I, I, I, I think she's a little more sure about what she

[Brooke]

wants then you, you guys just go date a bunch of people, sleep around, then

[Jeffrey]

we've come to an agreement. They both have other options that they want to explore first. And if those don't work out, they'll come back to each other.

[Host 2]

This is why people give up on dating.

[Jeffrey]

So Ainsley, it looks like officially it's a no and a yes and another no and then a yes and yeah, I don't know.

[Amy]

So, yeah, this was a lot. Thanks for calling and ruining my day a little bit, I guess.

[Host 2]

But we also made it better at the same time, right?

[Amy]

I mean, yeah. At least I know Connor is no longer an option.

[Connor]

Are you sure about that?

[Host 2]

Oh my God.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, Connor.

[Host 2]

No, I'm not here.

[Jeffrey]

I'm done. We're hanging up.

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[Amy]

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[Jeffrey]

Oh, my God. That was so frustrating to be a part of. I'm so glad it's over.

[Host 2]

It was awful.

[Jeffrey]

And I thought Brooke brought up a really good point about was it was like the perfect snapshot of what modern dating is and how uncertain everybody is. Nobody wants to commit to anything at all anymore.

[Host 2]

I mean, yeah, I get it. It's like going to a restaurant like the Cheesecake Factory and the menu's too big and you can never make up your mind.

[Announcer]

Overwhelmed.

[Host 2]

Yes. There's too many flavors out there.

[Jeffrey]

You just gotta come back once every day, get one thing off the menu until you've gone through the whole thing.

[Host 2]

Or you just stick to the one thing you like.

[Jeffrey]

Maybe.

[Connor]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

It is funny that these two were kind of like a real couple on Love island, weighing their options and waffling back and forth. Except in the end, they voted each other off.

[Card]

So.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, the good news is we don't vote anybody off the Brooke and Jeffrey island. No, just go to our podcast, have a drink, stay a while, take your pants off. Listen to all of our second dates online, wherever you get your podcast.

[Host 2]

I never thought about that. I bet a lot of people do have their pants off.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah. And we support that.

[Host 2]

Okay.

[Jeffrey]

Go find them online at Brooke and Jeffrey.

[Announcer]

Brooke and Jeffrey.

[Connor]

In the morning,

[Jeffrey]

when you go out to dinner, it's okay to make certain requests from the restaurant.

[Amy]

Okay.

[Jeffrey]

Reasonable ones, like asking if your salad dressing can be on the side.

[Host 2]

Okay.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

Or asking for a bottle of champagne to be waiting at the table when you arrive.

[Brooke]

Oh, yeah.

[Jeffrey]

Or even asking to be seated in an area with more attractive people in your eyeliner.

[Host 2]

No, I haven't tried that.

[Brooke]

No.

[Jeffrey]

Nobody wants to see uggos while you're eating.

[Brooke]

Your line.

[Host 2]

Is that why they always put me by the bathroom?

[Brooke]

They're like, oh, really pretty section through this door. Wait a minute.

[Jeffrey]

But one of our listeners made a different kind of request from his server after they got to dinner. And a lot of people in this room thought it crossed the line. A lot of the people who would be seated in the uggo section. But the restaurant did grant his request and you'll hear it. See if you agree in your second date update.

[Announcer]

Next, Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning second date update.

[Jeffrey]

Isn't it annoying when you're on the dating apps and you match with somebody and you can just talk to them right away.

[Card]

What?

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

Isn't that what you want to do?

[Brooke]

No, it never happened.

[Jeffrey]

No, thank you. I want to work for it. That's why I'm glad. On Bumble, they added multiple steps and hoops you have to jump through first. Where if you're a guy and you match with a girl, first, the woman sends you a prompt question that the guy has to answer. And if she doesn't like your response to that, she could just ditch you right away without ever speaking a word to you.

[Amy]

It's starting.

[Host 2]

I feel like you have to fill out full essay questions like you're back in high school English class all over again to get a date.

[Jeffrey]

We're not there yet, but I hope it gets to that point soon because I love writing essays.

[Brooke]

Oh, you're kind of cute. What's your thesis?

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, but see, if she does like your answer, then she can approve and give the green light to actually message her. So there. If you get that prompt, then you're halfway there. And one of our listeners apparently got it recently. His name is Card with a K. So, Card, congratulations. You got to answer a pre selected question. That must feel pretty good.

[Card]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

You did it, buddy.

[Host 2]

Is it too much details to know what her pre selected question was about?

[Jeffrey]

What was the question?

[Card]

So it was, what's the best piece of advice you've ever received?

[Host 2]

Oh, gosh, not for sure. She was gonna ask for your favorite pizza toppings. That's what I would have done.

[Jeffrey]

It is tricky how you answer that, because if you're just sincere without being fun, then you're gonna look very boring and stiff.

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

But at the same time, if you're too fun and too silly, then it seems like you're not taking this seriously.

[Brooke]

I would say, don't eat yellow snow, and I would not get a callback back.

[Host 2]

I would take my grandmother's vice, live and learn, die and forget it all.

[Brooke]

See? Boring.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, boring. And a little bit morbid if anything. So, Card, what did you answer to the prompt? What's the best advice you ever got?

[Card]

So I really thought about it and I came up with three options because this girl's really cute and I. I didn't want to blow it.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, okay, that's good. What you do, give us the other two before you tell us the winner.

[Host 2]

Oh, we're going deep.

[Jeffrey]

I want to know what the three options are so we can make sure you chose.

[Host 2]

Are you just writing down life advice for yourself? Is that what you're doing.

[Jeffrey]

We might all learn.

[Brooke]

This is for the bros out there.

[Card]

All right, My runner ups were. Put the cart back. People are watching.

[Host 2]

Oh, that's pretty good.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah.

[Card]

Okay, My next one was always be yourself. Unless you can be Beyonce. Then be Beyonce.

[Brooke]

I heard that with Batman.

[Host 2]

That's definitely one of those, like, Etsy things people put on shirts.

[Jeffrey]

You didn't like that one?

[Card]

No, like, maybe that's too silly and not answering it. So I wasn't sure.

[Host 2]

Okay, so what was the winner?

[Jeffrey]

Y.

[Card]

So the one I went with was, never date someone who claps when the plane lands.

[Host 2]

I mean, she must have liked it, right?

[Card]

Right. She said she was going to update her profile and put it on hers, and she did.

[Brooke]

Oh, wait a minute, bro. That's extra. That's like personalizing her own thing. After you. It must have felt good.

[Card]

I was flattered. But the best part was, you know, it led to a date.

[Jeffrey]

So there you go. Okay. You made it over all the hurdles, through the obstacles, and you got an actual meetup with her. What did you.

[Host 2]

I was gonna clap right there.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, well, he's not gonna want to talk to you if you did that. Brooke, what did you do for your date?

[Card]

Well, because of things beyond my control, I couldn't eat until super late, so I booked us a dinner reservation at 9:30.

[Jeffrey]

9:30.

[Card]

She initially asked if I could go earlier, but I told her I couldn't. But I really wanted to buy her dinner and spend time with her and that winter over.

[Brooke]

Okay.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, okay.

[Amy]

How was it?

[Connor]

Yeah, it went well.

[Card]

We were there for a long time past midnight.

[Host 2]

Oh, wow.

[Jeffrey]

Whoa.

[Brooke]

It was a good day.

[Card]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

That's a few hours.

[Jeffrey]

You must have really clicked for two and a half hours at dinner. What time does the restaurant even close?

[Brooke]

That's a long dinner.

[Jeffrey]

That's really long.

[Card]

It was supposed to close at 11, but we asked if we could hang there while they, like, shut stuff down, and they let us.

[Brooke]

Bro, that's actually, like. That's actually a rude thing.

[Host 2]

It's so bad.

[Jeffrey]

I thought I would take that as a compliment if I worked in the restaurant to be like, wow, they love us so much, they want to stick around.

[Brooke]

Beyond wants to go eat dinner too.

[Advertiser]

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[Host 2]

I'll stay here for you. Oh, goodness.

[Card]

I don't think they were too bothered by it because they still had to clean up and stuff and side work.

[Brooke]

They're rolling silverware, they're sweeping.

[Host 2]

You haven't worked in a restaurant. You better have tipped well.

[Card]

Yeah, yeah, of course I did. Okay.

[Jeffrey]

Okay.

[Host 2]

Restaurant aside, like it sounds like it was going great with her. Yeah, you know.

[Jeffrey]

So how did the night end?

[Card]

It was a good night. I walked her to her car because we drove separately and it was a quick kiss, not a long one.

[Host 2]

Okay.

[Jeffrey]

All right, that's great.

[Card]

So I'm seeing if I can take her out again. Again? I even joked over text that we could do a normal time.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, I'll push it up to 8:30 for you.

[Card]

But she's not responding, so.

[Host 2]

She's just not responding. Oh wow, that's interesting. I mean it seems like she was so invested. Just all of the hoops you had to jump through to even get the date. It feels like she would have been all in.

[Card]

Yeah, I would think. But no dice.

[Host 2]

No dice.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, well don't sound so dejected on the phone right now, Car. We haven't even called her and got the answer. There might be a total misunderstanding here.

[Connor]

Here.

[Card]

That's what I'm worried about. When you guys call people, it normally doesn't go well.

[Host 2]

That's because we're always the last resort,

[Brooke]

you know, and we only air the craziest, worst one. So don't worry if this hits the air. Well, that's actually a bad thing.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, hopefully. This is so boring we never even put it on our actual show. That's the goal. We'll see what happens when we call Amy. We're going to come back and try and get you a second date update super boring edition right after this.

[Card]

Thank you guys. I like that idea.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, hold on man.

[Announcer]

Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Second date update.

[Jeffrey]

In the story of Cinderella, you know her date with the prince is going well cause she stays out with him till midnight. Yeah, naughty, naughty girl. But in this situation, our listener card with a K took his date Amy to a late dinner and they stayed

[Host 2]

past midnight night despite the restaurant being closed.

[Jeffrey]

True.

[Brooke]

Usually if you're up has minute on a date, you're like dancing or something.

[Host 2]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jeffrey]

But it is a good sign that they were out together for so long. Now. Is it possible her date accidentally left her glass stiletto behind and ended up bippity bop the waiter?

[Host 2]

You didn't ask how hot the waiter was, Al. That's what that song was about.

[Brooke]

I get it. We don't change things.

[Jeffrey]

We don't know what happened. But no matter what, I am interested to hear how this modern day fairy tale ends.

[Brooke]

Oh, is there slippers involved?

[Jeffrey]

We're going to find out. I mean, maybe we could just ask. Card. Card. Did you have A hot waiter?

[Card]

Not exceptionally.

[Host 2]

All right.

[Brooke]

Okay. All right.

[Host 2]

That's good. That is good. You weren't intimidated by whoever your wait staff was?

[Brooke]

Was your Uber a pumpkin?

[Host 2]

That's a good question. Valid. Jose.

[Jeffrey]

He said that they drove separately.

[Brooke]

I didn't need an answer o. I know it's not a pumpkin. Thanks for explaining though, bro.

[Jeffrey]

We're checking off all the boxers.

[Card]

Okay.

[Jeffrey]

Let's just call this lovely lady.

[Host 2]

What's her name? Amy.

[Jeffrey]

Amy.

[Host 2]

Okay.

[Jeffrey]

And hopefully she picks up and we get some answers out of her. You ready to do this?

[Card]

Ready?

[Jeffrey]

I was saying that to myself. I'm ready. Let's do it, Jeff. Here we go.

[Amy]

Hello?

[Jeffrey]

Hey, is this Amy?

[Amy]

Yeah, who's this?

[Jeffrey]

Hey, this is a radio show called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning.

[Brooke]

Hi, Amy.

[Connor]

Hi.

[Amy]

Wait, what do you mean?

[Jeffrey]

Okay, yeah, radio still exists. I know it's shocking, but we do a show. It's called Brooke and Jeffrey. I think I already said that. And this is a segment called Second Date Update.

[Amy]

I'm sorry, I'm not trying to be rude, but why are you calling me?

[Host 2]

Great question.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, it's part of that segment, the second date thing, because we're trying to help out one of our listeners that you went out with recently. A guy named Card.

[Amy]

Oh, my God.

[Host 2]

What?

[Jeffrey]

Sorry?

[Brooke]

Card with a K. Did you have the C Card? You know,

[Host 2]

did I just hear you go,

[Amy]

sorry? That's my honest reaction.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, no. Well, it's okay.

[Host 2]

Interesting.

[Jeffrey]

If you feel that way, that's fine. It's just Card has reached out to our show because he's a little bit confused why after your date, you're not responding to any of his texts or messages.

[Amy]

Okay. Oh, you're laughing.

[Host 2]

Does that mean you think he should know?

[Amy]

I mean it. Yeah, sure.

[Brooke]

Okay, let's go.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah. I'll just tell you a few things that we know about your date, is that it started pretty late. You were at a restaurant for like two and a half hours till like way past it even closed.

[Card]

True.

[Jeffrey]

He felt like the vibes were pretty good. So we're.

[Host 2]

Wait, there was even a cute little kiss he said at the end.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, a little quick one.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

Okay. Okay. Is that all accurate?

[Amy]

Yes, those are facts.

[Host 2]

Well, okay, so where'd it go wrong?

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, well, maybe just tell us, how did you feel about the date?

[Amy]

Okay, well, first of all, we get there at 9:30. I'm hungry. I've been waiting to eat, you know.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

Oh, you didn't have pre dinner?

[Amy]

I mean, I had some snacks, but I was fully expecting to eat when we got there.

[Brooke]

Totally, totally.

[Amy]

The waiter kept coming over to take our order, and he kept telling him we weren't ready yet. And I'm like, visibly hungry.

[Brooke]

You're like, I am ready now.

[Host 2]

You're hangry.

[Amy]

Yes, yes. So we didn't actually get our food till like, 10:30.

[Connor]

What?

[Host 2]

Oh, my God. I wouldn't even be able to see straight if I was just sitting at that table.

[Amy]

Yeah, no, around 11, we're the last ones in the restaurant. And I'm like, it is time to. Okay. So I. I used to work in a restaurant. Okay.

[Brooke]

Oh.

[Amy]

I have been a server. And it is absolutely mortifyingly embarrassing to me if I'm with somebody who does not respect the fact that these people have their own lives who need to go home.

[Host 2]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jeffrey]

Okay. Amy, we totally sympathize with that.

[Brooke]

That.

[Jeffrey]

That was not made clear to us. From what we heard from Card, he felt like you were okay with staying later. And it was almost like the vibe was so good. The date just kept going and going.

[Amy]

He said it was good. How could it be when people are asking you to leave the restaurant?

[Card]

Oh,

[Jeffrey]

because it's such a romantic scene. They're like, oh, I can't look at this beautiful couple any longer.

[Brooke]

Chef just got a divorce and he's a mess now.

[Host 2]

Seeing you.

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

Seeing the love.

[Connor]

No way.

[Host 2]

It sounds like Card is maybe not very good at reading the room.

[Amy]

He kept going. I like the ambiance. I like the ambiance. If you say ambiance one more time, I swear to God.

[Brooke]

In his defense, though, maybe he just liked you and wanted to spend more time with you.

[Amy]

No, there's something weird about it because around, like, 1155, they finally were like, you have to leave in no uncertain terms. They weren't trying to be nice about it anymore. And this is. This man looks at the server and looks at the bill and he goes, I'm still looking over the bill.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, a financially responsible man. No way.

[Amy]

When I tell you I wanted to die. We finally left and it just seemed really weird because, like, we could have gone to another place.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, it sounds like you have a lot of questions about why he was doing this and what was going on. The good news is, is we could just ask him directly. Cuz Card is on the other line right now wanting to talk to you.

[Brooke]

He's very patient.

[Jeffrey]

If you can't still has left Card.

[Connor]

What the.

[Amy]

Are you serious? Sorry.

[Card]

But is it a bad thing that I like the ambience of a Restaurant.

[Host 2]

You said it again.

[Amy]

You didn't notice them?

[Host 2]

Turn the music off. And the lights on.

[Jeffrey]

Must have a really.

[Amy]

Okay, you know what? I'm sorry. If I known that you were listening this whole time, I probably would have been a little nicer. But you know what? They were closing and you wouldn't leave, and it was weak.

[Card]

Stay there and enjoy it with you.

[Amy]

I know.

[Jeffrey]

Where's the Oz from the room?

[Connor]

Okay.

[Amy]

They brought us the bill before 11 and you kept insisting on waiting more and more. And they were very clear they needed. And you just. You just kept finding reasons to. I mean, what was going on? Because it was really. I don't know, it was really strange.

[Jeffrey]

Okay. Okay, Amy, I think you've said your. Your piece. So, Carr, do you have anything that you want to say to Amy in response to that?

[Card]

Fine. I was a little low on funds. The cell phone company I work for doesn't pay me till midnight on Friday. I used my debit card for the meal, and I wouldn't have gone through if I had paid earlier.

[Jeffrey]

Brooke, you feel bad for that?

[Host 2]

I feel terrible now. I feel bad too.

[Brooke]

Have money and he needed a way to take her out.

[Amy]

I don't feel bad. That's the dumbest I've ever heard in my life.

[Brooke]

You guys talking about you don't feel bad?

[Amy]

Why didn't you just schedule it for a later date? What is wrong? What?

[Host 2]

Oh, my God.

[Card]

I'm sorry.

[Amy]

Money bag. I'm sorry.

[Brooke]

Sorry.

[Connor]

Money bag.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, you didn't have the money in your account to pay the bill, so you're trying to stall until the.

[Connor]

The payment came in.

[Host 2]

I know, right when our paycheck comes through too. I feel you.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, but like, well, okay, we understand that if you're paying like directly out of your account with a debit card, but like, why don't you do it on a credit card and then pay it later?

[Card]

I don't have a credit card.

[Jeffrey]

You don't have a credit card?

[Card]

No, I don't trust myself. Carry one.

[Host 2]

I think that's good. I mean, honestly, that's financially the same. Honestly.

[Jeffrey]

But they pre approve you for credit

[Host 2]

cards even when you're like a rich guy. Okay, that is such a privileged thing. You know, I think you're doing right. That's a good financial choice, right, Amy? I mean, that's responsible girl.

[Amy]

Come on.

[Jeffrey]

Seriously though, Cart, you're not really saying a lot here. Is there any defense you want to make or anything you want to say to Amy?

[Card]

I mean, what else can I say? I Told you guys what the deal was. I just tried to stall a little bit. I mean, at this point, I feel like instead of Cinderella, I got one of the wicked stepsister

[Host 2]

come at her.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, you know, the stepsisters are freaky, though.

[Brooke]

Oh, yeah, they are.

[Jeffrey]

Okay.

[Host 2]

I feel like, Amy, you should give him another chance. I've always dated low fund guys.

[Announcer]

At least he didn't make you pay.

[Jeffrey]

And if Brooke is willing to give a break to a poor man, then you should be willing to do it too. That's very out of character for her. So what do you think, Amy? One more chance. And look, we'll take all the credit cards off the table. We'll pay for the date.

[Brooke]

Yeah. Come on. The funds are on us, dude.

[Host 2]

Girl card needs to eat. You need to say yes to this, Amy.

[Amy]

All right, listen, between the lack of consideration for the wait staff, the not

[Card]

just they were fine with it,

[Announcer]

and

[Amy]

the bad and the no credit at these red flags, just waving me in. No, I. Thank you very much, guys, but no thank you.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, I thought she was leading to a yes.

[Host 2]

I thought she was too.

[Brooke]

Okay.

[Host 2]

I thought she was gonna run past the red flags.

[Brooke]

All right, well, that's all right Card.

[Host 2]

That gives you something to work towards, you know, like a little more financial stability.

[Card]

I dodged a bullet. I'm glad.

[Brooke]

Oh, that's the angle you're taking.

[Announcer]

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[Host 2]

What?

[Jeffrey]

I mean come on. I. I know you felt sorry for the guy.

[Host 2]

I felt terrible for him.

[Jeffrey]

But be honest with yourself. There is no way you would go on a date with a guy who is so bad with money he doesn't even trust himself with a credit card.

[Host 2]

Oh yes, absolutely I would. I had a first date with a boyfriend who we went to a burger joint because he had a free burger coupon.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, I'm not, I'm not talking about your free and easy early 20s where you would tip the grocery baggers with a nude Polaroid. Yeah, I mean these are adults.

[Host 2]

Dude, you look so cute in polaroids. It's just not. Oh, I know that.

[Jeffrey]

Trust me, I know the perfect lighting in those. But remember, these are adults looking to lock down a healthy relationship with a stable guy.

[Host 2]

Dude, a guy who is willing to not get a credit card to avoid going into debt is a stable guy. And I really, absolutely, I stand by that.

[Jeffrey]

I thought Alexis.

[Brooke]

I thought Alexis had a good point where this guy went through all this trouble because he still wanted to pay. Yeah, he could have easily said hey, if you just loan this, I can Venmo you in two hours. He's like no. Yes.

[Jeffrey]

I want to bring us down both into debt and then you can help pay us out of it.

[Brooke]

Sorry.

[Host 2]

There you go.

[Brooke]

They can co sign.

[Jeffrey]

I forgot what romance looks like now.

[Host 2]

Says a guy has never done dealt with overdraft fees.

[Jeffrey]

I don't know. We can agree to disagree on this one.

[Brooke]

You've gotten underdraft fees. Yeah, I have too much money in that account.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, it is a burden. But you know what? We weren't able to make it work for a card but doesn't mean we can't help you out. You can always email the show. We'll call that person who's not calling you back and go check out all of our second eight podcasts for your entertainment. They're available at Brooke and Jeffrey the

[Announcer]

Breakup no One Saw Coming has hit the freezer aisle. Cherry, Orange and Grape Popsicle Ice Pops are going solo.

[Host 2]

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