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Jeffrey
All right, now you can finally get your chores done on Saturday because it's the year Back to Back classics that.
Alexis
You love saving for all week right now.
Jeffrey
That's right. It's Brick and Jeffrey in the morning. And just a heads up, tomorrow right here on the feed, we are going to be hosting something very special, something just very unique, and that is our full hour episode. Yes.
Alexis
One of our favorites from last week that we aired on our other podcast feed.
Jeffrey
Yeah, yeah. So we have three podcast feeds. Second date is our most popular, and then we have a main feed where we do one hour long episodes every day. So this is just to give you a taste and see if you like it and if you don't, you know, turn it off.
Alexis
Yeah, it's that simple.
Brooke
We like getting the numbers.
Jeffrey
So that's just a heads up to check back here tomorrow. And right now, just enjoy your Back to back classics.
Jeff
If you're a single lady and you're looking to make the first move and approach a guy at a bar, what is the right play?
Alexis
Spill my drink on him.
Jeffrey
Oh, I'm just gonna say, make eye contact and say hi.
Brooke
And then spill the drink.
Jeff
You could do what Brooke does. Open up her purse and say, hey, I got some free jerky I bought off a rando in the street. Want to share a stick? And her purse is huge.
Brooke
So she's like, hop in.
Jeffrey
Everybody knows jerky stands on the side of the highway are the best.
Brooke
They actually, yes, she's right.
Jeff
It has a surprisingly high success rate. Or you can do what one of our listeners did when she saw Cute guy, and even though her move was a little unorthodox, apparently it worked. Okay, you're gonna hear it in your second date update right after this second date update for a date. Would you rather be silently ghosted or blatantly canceled on?
Jeffrey
Yikes. I mean, at least you would know if you're blatantly canceled on.
Brooke
Yeah, but I can make up my own excuse. Like, I'm too perfect.
Jeffrey
Yeah.
Brooke
You know what I mean?
Jeffrey
Is that what you do when you're ghosted?
Jeff
There's still that, like, glimmer of hope that maybe they got the wrong bar.
Jeffrey
Yeah.
Jeff
Or maybe they got arrested or their phone broke. Yeah. Because they fell down a manhole and they can't get out.
Jeffrey
Oh, darted.
Jeff
You can invent a story for yourself there. That makes you feel good. But today, one of our listeners, Jillian, thought she had a Second date, locked down until she got one very strange last minute text calling it off. And now she's really confused and needs our help. Jillian, welcome to the show.
Listener (Jillian or Carly)
Hi. Thank you.
Jeffrey
Hi. My interest is so piqued. I want to know what that text message says.
Brooke
Someone was direct and you're confused.
Jeff
Yeah. So let's start at the beginning of your story. How did you meet this guy? What's his name?
Listener (Jillian or Carly)
His name's Zach.
Blaine
Zack.
Jeffrey
Okay.
Jeff
Where did you and Zach meet?
Listener (Jillian or Carly)
So we met at a bar.
Jeffrey
Oh, in real life.
Listener (Jillian or Carly)
In real life, yeah. I know, right? Crazy. So it was like, last Friday night. I had been planning on staying in, like, not going out at all that night.
Jeffrey
That's when it always happens, right?
Listener (Jillian or Carly)
I know, right?
Jeffrey
Which means that you weren't looking your best. You're probably kind of a mess, but yes.
Jeff
Okay. It's a little harsh.
Jeffrey
I don't know. I don't mean that in a mean way.
Listener (Jillian or Carly)
I was looking cute.
Jeffrey
Oh, okay. That's just me.
Alexis
That's right.
Jeffrey
Can't relate.
Brooke
Brooke.
Jeffrey
My bad, my bad.
Jeff
Yeah.
Listener (Jillian or Carly)
Then I had this, like, feeling after I got home from work where I was like, no, you know what? I actually don't want to have a cozy night in. I want to go do something that's a good feeling.
Brooke
I always have the feeling to go in. But when you get the feeling to go out, that's so fun.
Jeffrey
You bring in the good energy.
Jeff
Okay, so where do you go?
Listener (Jillian or Carly)
So I call my girlfriend. We go to a bar kind of by my place, and we're just hanging out, and then I see this guy, and I, like. I don't usually make the first move, like, ever, but I was kind of, like, listening to their. Not listening to their conversation. But I was at the bar trying.
Jeffrey
To get a drink, I thought you were gonna say. But I was kind of drunk, so I did it. Yeah.
Listener (Jillian or Carly)
No, no, no. We're right there. They were talking about the movie Wicked, and I had just seen it, and their opinions were, like, totally wrong. So I jumped in to tell him why he was wrong, but also just, like, to flirt with him and love.
Jeffrey
To be told they were wrong right off the bat.
Brooke
Don't argue about a man with Wicked either.
Alexis
I just love that it was two guys arguing over Wicked together.
Jeff
I know.
Jeffrey
Yeah, that was cute.
Jeff
I feel like I already know why he's not calling you back, but go ahead. I know.
Jeffrey
Me too. J.
Jeff
No. Okay.
Jeffrey
She was being playful. Come on.
Listener (Jillian or Carly)
Yeah, if you, like, touch their arm and stuff, then they love an argument. So anyway, we Ended up talking for a while. We went to another bar together, just the two of us.
Jeffrey
Oh, you ditched your girlfriend.
Brooke
Okay, that's good.
Listener (Jillian or Carly)
Yeah, well, she was kind of done. She was like, yeah, I came out for you, so if you're good, like, bye. And we had plans for a second date. We were going to go to this bar that has skeeball, and I was going to beat him at skeeball, and it was going to be great.
Jeffrey
Oh, my gosh. So you guys even talked about where and when and all of it.
Listener (Jillian or Carly)
Yeah, all of it. And so then here's the crazy part. That morning that we're supposed to go out, I get a text from him that says, I'm on to you. Dates off.
Jeff
On to you.
Jeffrey
On to you.
Listener (Jillian or Carly)
I'm on to you. Yeah.
Jeff
What does that mean?
Listener (Jillian or Carly)
I don't know. I texted him back and I was like, what are you talking about? And then he just didn't answer me.
Jeffrey
Does he think that you're in a relationship or something? That's the first thing that I think.
Jeff
Oh, yeah. We should have asked. Are you currently with somebody?
Jeffrey
No.
Zach
No.
Jeff
Okay.
Brooke
She's like, you're married with six kids.
Jeff
What's wrong with that?
Jeffrey
And that's so strange, too, because you don't have any. Like, it's not like you can ask his friends. You don't know anybody that he knows. Yeah, you know, right, Exactly. If you Google search your name, is there, like, a weird news article that comes up of somebody with a shared name?
Listener (Jillian or Carly)
I don't even know if he knows my last name to Google me at all. But also, like, I don't think anything crazy comes up.
Brooke
She's like, my last name's Dahmer. I don't understand.
Jeff
And I swear I paid to have all those articles deleted. Ye. Scrubbed off of here. So.
Brooke
This is a true mystery.
Listener (Jillian or Carly)
Yeah. My best guess is that maybe one of his friends, like, thought I was someone else, thought they recognized me. You know, like, Dark Bar. I don't know.
Brooke
Oh, yeah, I.
Jeff
You know what?
Brooke
That's happened to my friend group before.
Jeffrey
Oh, really?
Brooke
I thought she was some other girl, bro. Never mind.
Jeffrey
It could be that, like, a girl from the dating apps or something like.
Alexis
That is just so bold, like, and.
Jeffrey
That you don't follow it up. Like, if you're gonna accuse, just tell me what I've been accused of.
Listener (Jillian or Carly)
Yeah, it's just so frustrating. Like, I. I've texted him a few times, being like, hey, I don't even need to go out again. I just want to Know what are you upset about? And I don't get anything.
Jeffrey
Oh, well, and you need to know for future dates, because what if other men say the same thing and you still don't know what you know?
Brooke
We're like notorious and you have no idea how.
Alexis
Unless you're purposely using him for something. Just tell us now at least.
Jeff
Mass texting him makes you sound super laid back and chill so he has nothing to complain about when we call him now and try and ask him why he didn't follow through with the second date that you had already arranged with him.
Jeffrey
When we ask him what the hell that text message meant.
Jeff
Yeah, let's really pile on and tell him everything he's done wrong in his.
Alexis
Life and his opinions on wicked suck.
Jeff
We will beat him into a pulp when we do your second date update. Coming up right after this second date update. I can't believe we never caught the nursery rhyme connection.
Jeffrey
What?
Jeff
Cuz our listener Jillian.
Jeffrey
Yeah.
Jeff
Met a guy named Zach.
Jeffrey
Yeah.
Brooke
Zack and Jill.
Jeff
Zack and Jill?
Jeffrey
You mean Jack and Jill.
Brooke
Yeah, but it sounds.
Jeff
It sounds pretty close.
Jeffrey
Okay, someone flunked. I'm just saying. Someone flunked preschool in this room and it wasn't me.
Brooke
Okay?
Jeffrey
Cause it was definitely not Zach.
Brooke
Stop trying to rhyme, Jay.
Jeff
Okay, sorry for trying to draw a connection. I thought it was a cute story.
Mario Lopez
I did too.
Jeff
They met at a bar. They were drinking pails of White claw together.
Alexis
Is that how the nursery rhyme goes? Yeah, pretty much.
Jeff
Jill said great to another date and Zach canceled last second. Oh, okay. That's where we are today. Like a total jerk, Zach reached out to Jillian the day of their second meetup and said, I'm on to you. Date canceled.
Brooke
So Zach just is fetching a pail of water right now?
Jeffrey
No, he's rolling down a hill, I think.
Alexis
I thought it was White claw.
Brooke
Oh, I got the nursery.
Jeff
Right now the whole thing is confusing, especially to Jillian, because there was no explanation for what he meant by I'm.
Jeffrey
On to you that it's so accusatory. I mean, the thing is, is that although Jeff, you're calling him a jerk, he thinks she's a jerk is what it sounds like.
Jeff
Yeah, but we don't know why.
Jeffrey
Exactly.
Brooke
I'm on to you. We'll raise an eyebrow to anybody.
Jeffrey
Yes.
Brooke
Walk up to me and say that. Right now. I'd be like, what?
Jeffrey
You feel guilty?
Brooke
Yeah.
Jeffrey
No matter what.
Brooke
What am I doing?
Jeff
Yeah.
Jeffrey
My guess is that he's going to be coming in hot.
Brooke
I know.
Jeffrey
Like a text like that, it's not going to be a good explanation.
Brooke
I just thought it's. What if it's his tagline? What if he answers it like, I'm on to you.
Jeff
Hello?
Brooke
You know, like, what if that's his thing?
Jeff
That's his go to guy for it.
Listener (Jillian or Carly)
Oh, no.
Jeff
Yeah, you probably don't want to end up with him.
Alexis
Yeah. Then we hang.
Jeff
Yeah.
Listener (Jillian or Carly)
Probably not.
Jeff
Dial his number, see how he answers the phone if he picks up and hopefully get an explanation. Are you ready? I'm ready.
Listener (Jillian or Carly)
That would be great. Thank you.
Jeff
So that was a question just to myself.
Brooke
I'm ready when he's talking to Jeff.
Jeff
Okay. Hello? Hey, is this Zach?
Zach
Yes. Who's speaking?
Jeffrey
Oh, interesting. Hey, Zach. Welcome to the show.
Zach
What is this? Hello?
Jeff
Sorry. Sorry for that. She was so flirty with that question. This is. They're a radio show. We're called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning. This is a segment called Second Date Update. Okay, you could help us because we have a listener who you met up with the other night. Her name is Jillian.
Jeffrey
You guys met at a bar?
Blaine
Oh, my God.
Zach
Are you joking?
Jeffrey
No.
Zach
Yeah, she keeps texting me.
Jeffrey
Yes, right.
Jeff
I can hear you're confused. Can I tell you what we know from what Jillian told us? Because she said you guys met at the bar the other night, you hit it off, ended up separating from your friend group to just hang out one on one and then arranged a second meetup. Had it all planned out until the day of. She got this cryptic text from you saying, I'm on to you. Yeah.
Blaine
Wow.
Zach
Okay. So she called you a lot.
Jeffrey
Yeah. Because, I mean, honestly, she has no idea what you're referring to in that text message.
Zach
Well, I can explain that.
Jeff
That would be great because she just does not understand what happened if she did something wrong. We're just trying to give her some clarity.
Brooke
We asked, are you in the middle of some awful dealings? And she's like, I am not in the midst of evil. So you know what I mean? So she has no idea what you're talking about.
Zach
Okay, so the day of the next date, I went back to the bar that we had met at and this bartender recognizes me and he says, hey, are you hanging out with Jillian again anytime soon?
Jeffrey
Oh, they know her at the bar. Like she's a regular or something.
Zach
Okay, well, that's what I was thinking. So I say, what's going on? How do you know her? And he says that she calls the bar like every night asking if there's any cute guys there.
Jeffrey
You can do that. Oh, really? World Just opened up. Are you serious?
Jeff
Yeah.
Jeffrey
She calls ahead of time just to see if it's worth her time to go down there.
Zach
Yeah, not just that place. Apparently she does that all over town.
Jeffrey
How do you know all over town?
Zach
That's what the bartender said. So I don't know.
Jeffrey
So are you upset that you were the cute guy that the bartender reported on?
Alexis
Kind of a compliment?
Jeff
Or the fact that she calls the bar every single night going out there?
Jeffrey
Like she doesn't go to the bar every night though.
Jeff
Unless there's cute guys.
Jeffrey
Yes, there's a good rating. Fair enough.
Brooke
That's why she decided to go from I'm staying home to I'm going out.
Jeff
Yes, right.
Alexis
It's worth her going out for. That's a compliment.
Listener (Jillian or Carly)
She said that to you?
Jeff
She mentioned that the night that she was going out and met you, she was considering staying in, but something changed her mind and she wanted to go out that night instead. Okay, so turns out that something was a phone call to the bar to ask if there's any good looking guys there. But we didn't know that.
Jeffrey
Why does that make you so upset?
Zach
Well, I'm just another cute guy at a bar to her. And it's just kind of shady that she is talking how spiritual, spontaneous this whole thing was when really she kind of planned the whole thing.
Jeffrey
Oh, that's interesting. So it feels like you were deceived a little bit.
Brooke
You're saying it's nice to be the cute guy, but now it's like you don't feel special because every night there's another cute guy.
Alexis
I just feel like it's weird someone pretends they just met you randomly when they didn't. It's like acting a bit.
Jeff
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Zach
I didn't feel special at all. And it's pretty weird to me now.
Jeffrey
You should feel special. You're on a radio show.
Jeff
Yeah.
Brooke
She calls us every day though.
Jeffrey
Yeah.
Jeff
No, she doesn't.
Brooke
She's never call us before.
Jeffrey
Ever.
Jeff
Actually, she specifically reached out so that we could get in contact with you to find this information out. That should mean something, right?
Zach
I guess. I mean, now you have your reason though.
Jeff
Okay, well, thank you for that and we're thankful. But who I think is more appreciative is actually Jillian, who is on the other line listening to this conversation.
Brooke
It does sound like she's like always.
Jeff
On the other line. Yeah.
Zach
Oh my God.
Jeffrey
The only one actually making phone calls these days.
Jeff
Jillian, are you there?
Listener (Jillian or Carly)
I'm here and I have quite a bit to say in response to that.
Jeff
Coming in high good things.
Jeffrey
Not a I'm sorry.
Jeff
Well, maybe.
Listener (Jillian or Carly)
No, I'm not sorry. What did I do wrong? Listen, first of all, I do not call them every night. Like, Friday and Saturday nights.
Jeff
Okay?
Blaine
Okay.
Listener (Jillian or Carly)
And, like, listen, if I'm at home, I don't have to, like, put on pants and, like, makeup, you know, like, just to go to a bar when there's nobody there. And so I'll call, be like, hey, is it popping? There are a lot of guys there. What's going on? And. But. But I was not lying to you, Gu, when I said I almost never approach anybody.
Brooke
Oh, she did mention that to us, Zach.
Jeffrey
I mean. Yeah. Are you still there, Zach?
Jeff
Yeah.
Zach
I'm not sure what to believe anymore. I mean, she's saying one thing to you guys. The bartender says a different thing than me, so I don't know. This is all kind of shady.
Jeffrey
Dude, it would have been such a good pickup line to walk up to him and be like, hey, I called ahead of time. They said you were here.
Jeff
You're hot. Yeah, I don't know if that's going to go for that.
Jeffrey
Well, I think it would.
Listener (Jillian or Carly)
Yeah, you're right. Maybe I'll just say it.
Jeffrey
Yeah. No, I asked for hot guys and they delivered you. I'm so happy to tell us how that goes.
Jeff
Not as romantic to a guy's ear as you probably think.
Jeffrey
Anyone's looking for romance at a bar, Jeff. They're just looking to talk more.
Jeff
Well, clearly someone who is looking for romance is Zach, and he feels like he's not special, that he's just one of many guys. You would have taken any cute guy at the bar that night, and he just happened to be there.
Listener (Jillian or Carly)
That is absolutely not accurate. I can see why he would think that, but it's. It's so not true.
Brooke
Okay, well, that's good to hear.
Jeff
We do appreciate you coming forward, Jillian, and actually admitting that you did this, because I think a lot of people would deny it or try to, like, be like, no, I've never done that. Yeah, you told us you were going to stay in, but you had a special feeling. And the special feeling was a call to the bar asking them to scope out hot guys for you, which Alexis.
Jeffrey
Is definitely picking up.
Alexis
I think every bar should just start posting who's there online at this point before you go in.
Listener (Jillian or Carly)
Zach, you should feel special. The bartender said there were lots of cute guys, but you were the cutest, and you're the one. I talked to Zachary.
Jeffrey
Oh, look at that. Stand out. You're a standout cutie, Zach.
Zach
It's just strange to pretend like it wasn't all set up.
Jeff
Well, now that all the information is out there, can we book skee ball again and actually follow through with the second date that you had already planned for each other before this misunderstanding?
Jeffrey
I mean, if anything, Zach, it shows what a on top organizer nice woman she is.
Jeff
Yeah.
Jeffrey
Yeah, she's definitely got her her life organized.
Brooke
And if you guys start dating, she'll call the bar and make sure it's all ugly guys next time she goes.
Jeffrey
That's a good point, Jose.
Listener (Jillian or Carly)
I haven't called the bar since I met you.
Zach
All right?
Jeff
I mean, I'm.
Zach
I'm willing to try again.
Jeff
Okay.
Brooke
Really?
Jeff
Wow, that was so heartfelt, Zach. I really buy it. I know.
Brooke
I wonder if this is like setting her up to get stood up now.
Jeff
Because, Zach, if you actually agree to meet up with her, we will pay for the date. Date?
Zach
Yeah, man.
Jeffrey
Okay, again.
Jeff
It just feels like very like you're brushing us off.
Brooke
The guys in the room can feel something's weird.
Alexis
I don't expect big reactions from men anymore.
Jeff
Yeah. Zach, be honest. Doesn't sound like you're actually going to call her, are you?
Zach
Yeah, probably not.
Ryan Seacrest
Yeah.
Jeffrey
Okay.
Jeff
I mean, look, now they're both ghosting each other.
Brooke
Oh, they're perfect for each other.
Jeffrey
It's just him twice.
Jeff
Two ghosts make a right.
Jeffrey
That's not it.
Jeff
I think it is. Zach and Jill. That's how the fairy tale ends.
Jeffrey
Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
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Jeff
I swear, sometimes you can just tell when somebody isn't fully into it and they're just saying yes to go along with peer pressure.
Jeffrey
Sure, I wanted him to be into it.
Brooke
Yeah, I know. But there was something in his voice. I was like, yeah, yeah, sure.
Jeffrey
I mean, he was still the hottest guy in the bar. Maybe that's why he doesn't care. He has options.
Brooke
I didn't think of that, bro.
Jeff
But if someone's not into it, you don't want to go along with it.
Jeffrey
That's true.
Jeff
Honey, will you marry me? Fine. The deep breath. No, the great thing about it is both of them were actually, actually honest with us in the end. She admitted that she calls ahead to bars to scope cute guys out. He admits he'll say yes to dates when he doesn't really care to actually meet up with him.
Alexis
I just have so many questions for the bartender. Does she tell him her type? Does she give photos I need to know more about?
Jeff
Does she get out of it?
Brooke
She get tipped more?
Jeffrey
Well, it's a guy. It was a guy bartender, but still.
Brooke
Is he making money?
Alexis
So many questions.
Jeffrey
He just gets somebody else to come to the bar and that's better for him. Bars are always looking for more women.
Jeff
Always. All the bartenders out there, make sure you text in to 78592 when you have cute guys in there. So Alexis knows where to be and when to go.
Brooke
Even if it's 9am yeah, she'll be there.
Alexis
Clarify what cute means to you.
Jeff
That's also true. If you need help with your dating life, email the show. We'll call that person who's not calling you back. And go check out all of our second dates. Up where our podcasts are at.
Jeffrey
BrookeandJeffrey, Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
Jeff
Hey, kids. Today we're all going to learn the difference between a share and an overshare. Okay, so I'm gonna say something and you tell me if you think it's a share or an overshare. Okay, so I started doing yoga last week and my body feels great.
Jeffrey
Yay. That's a share.
Brooke
That's a share.
Jeff
That's right. That's a share. Good job, everyone. Alright, now how about this? Now that I'm in yoga, I am so flexible I can clean out my ear using my pinky toe. That would be.
Jeffrey
That's a. No, that's. I still like it as a share.
Jeff
But that's an overshare. We don't cheer over shares. We don't want to do that.
Jeffrey
Yes.
Jeff
Now.
Brooke
Okay, don't hit that.
Jeff
If only our listener had had that lesson before she texted a guy after their date, we wouldn't even be in this position. But we're gonna hear about the text text. That probably said a little bit too much in your second date update. Right after this second date update. You know, researchers say what you text a person after a good first date.
Jeffrey
Yeah.
Jeff
Can actually be more important than the date itself.
Jeffrey
Oh, yeah.
Alexis
I mean, you do look forward to it.
Jeffrey
That is not helpful for people who really overthink that text, Jeff.
Jeff
I'm just saying, like, for example, if you were to text, hey, I had a great time with you tonight.
Brooke
That's always good.
Jeff
Also, I accidentally took your fork from the dinner for a DNA test.
Brooke
Wait, no, that's not good.
Jeff
It might not go over quite so well too soon.
Jeffrey
You just leave it as I took your fork and you leave the DNA test on.
Brooke
You just say, I had a great night.
Jeff
Just try not to overthink it. That's all I'm saying. Because one of our listeners, Carly, says she had a text exchange with a guy after they went out.
Jeffrey
Yeah.
Jeff
And it could be the reason she's not getting call back.
Brooke
Oh, no.
Jeff
Now, we're gonna to get to that and talk about the text in a little bit. But first, Carly, welcome to the show.
Listener (Jillian or Carly)
Hey, everybody. How's it going?
Jeffrey
But first, Carly, we want to hear the good part.
Jeff
Yeah. And I don't ask this a lot, but how important is it for you, Carly, to get a second date here with this guy? Is it a, like, a lot, like, yay, nay or hey, neighbor type of situation?
Jeffrey
Hey, neighbor.
Jeff
Yeah, that's the.
Jeffrey
Is that a positive?
Jeff
Is it a yay nay or hey, neighbor, where are you on the important scale?
Listener (Jillian or Carly)
No, no, it's a yay, obviously.
Jeff
Okay.
Jeffrey
Why would you not do one through ten?
Jeff
No, that's not as fun as yay, nay. Hey, neighbor. We only do fun stuff on our show. Okay, so this. This guy is a yay. Tell us about him and how you two met.
Listener (Jillian or Carly)
His name is Blaine, and I was at topgolf with some friends over there for a friend's birthday party.
Jeffrey
Oh, that's great. And a great place to meet people.
Alexis
Yeah, that's a bad form. I never want someone to see me there.
Brooke
No. But even then, I'm sure Someone would be, like, trying to help you.
Jeffrey
Yeah, you love to show you. I don't want that. Exactly. We reach around and just show you how to do it.
Jeff
Is that what Blaine did for you?
Listener (Jillian or Carly)
So, like, he was there with a group of guys, and he were in, like, the next Stallover. So we were just talking when it wasn't our turn, and, like, we hit it off.
Jeffrey
Cute.
Jeff
I hit it off.
Jeffrey
That's not.
Blaine
Well done, Carly.
Brooke
The iron me.
Alexis
I want to hear about.
Jeff
I knew you would, Brian.
Brooke
You got a fun. Okay, we're not.
Jeffrey
I would.
Jeff
There.
Jeffrey
I don't know.
Jeff
Sorry about that.
Brooke
Oh, I missed it. He said what?
Jeff
Yeah, I already said that joke. But that's okay, Carly. Keep going. So you guys hit it off.
Listener (Jillian or Carly)
So, like, how. Yeah, how? He asked me out. I thought it was kind of cute because he gave me his number on a golf ball. Like, you wrote it on there with a Sharpie.
Brooke
Oh, that's cool.
Jeffrey
Oh, actually, is it bad that I'm already thinking if you got married, it would have to all be golf theme now?
Brooke
Oh, yeah.
Jeff
Bro, this guy isn't even calling her back yet. Let's not start making the wedding plans and choosing the plates and everything. That's true. Okay, so that sounds really nice. Did you guys end up hanging out?
Listener (Jillian or Carly)
Yes. We said we were gonna hang out next Friday, so we kind of planned that even before we left. But then we were texting, and I was like, I wanted to see him sooner, so I moved it up to Tuesday.
Alexis
Also, don't waste a Friday night. That's a good call.
Jeffrey
It's a whole Chapel Roan saga.
Alexis
I'm just saying, don't waste a weekend night on a guy.
Jeff
Somebody's jaded over there. All right. Okay, so you moved it up to Tuesday. How did that go?
Listener (Jillian or Carly)
Yeah, it was a really good date. I got to know a lot about him, like, where he grew up and, like, what's important in his life. And, you know, he's into sports and animals. I love animals.
Blaine
So.
Jeffrey
Okay, so, wait, I'm sorry. Were you guys just at dinner? Is that what you did on Tuesday?
Listener (Jillian or Carly)
Yeah. Like, dinner, drinks.
Jeffrey
Okay, cool.
Jeff
Way to downplay it, Brooke.
Jeffrey
No, I'm just trying to set the scene. I don't.
Jeff
That's all you did. You just did dinner.
Zach
Okay.
Jeff
How'd you feel after that hangout?
Listener (Jillian or Carly)
I mean, I felt great. Like, he seems like a really great, caring guy, and we did end up kissing.
Jeffrey
Ooh. How was the kiss?
Listener (Jillian or Carly)
Oh, it was really good.
Jeffrey
Oh, look at. She's smiling. She's Saying it.
Jeff
That's great. You did say. The one thing that you're worried about that could have stopped you from hanging out again was your text message exchange afterwards. Can you get into that or just read it?
Alexis
Well, it's sassy today.
Brooke
Just read it.
Jeffrey
I don't want to hear it.
Jeff
I don't know how long it is. Just give us the vibe, I think.
Listener (Jillian or Carly)
Yeah, I mean, you know, like, sometimes when, like, your friends will ask you out to some expensive place, and you're just not in a place to do that. So I just wanted to be honest and let him know where I was at. So I did tell him that I was a little short on my rent this month.
Jeffrey
Wait, how did you jump from that was a fun night to a short on rent?
Alexis
Maybe we do need the text brand.
Brooke
I thought you were just gonna say, hey, our next date, let's not do topgolf. Maybe something a little lighter. You know, Starbucks.
Jeffrey
Wait, didn't he pay for dinner?
Listener (Jillian or Carly)
Yeah, he paid for dinner.
Jeff
Okay. She's just sharing. I think she's trying to, like, be honest and be like, I'm in a.
Jeffrey
Vulnerable place to go. I totally get that. I'm just curious how you brought it up, like. Cause it seems so out of the blue.
Listener (Jillian or Carly)
Yeah, I mean, we were just, like, talking about the date, and then we were talking about, like, well, what's your week like? And what are you doing? And I was just feeling a little stressed because of this. And so, like, it was just sharing, like, general stuff.
Jeff
Well, that sounds normal to me. Like, don't you when you were dating Brooke, talk about paying rent with all the guys that you hung out with, like, when's your rent due? This one. Mine's due.
Brooke
Well, they were homeless.
Jeffrey
I think they all, like. I think it's good to be vulnerable with people. But I'm wondering if he read it as basically an ask for money.
Brooke
Oh, yeah, that's how I read it.
Jeff
How did he react to that?
Listener (Jillian or Carly)
He was, like, really sweet. And he. He did send me a little bit of money. I mean, like, really, like, that feels like he's an amazing guy. Who cares? I mean, we've been on one date. I wasn't expecting him to do anything.
Jeffrey
Really? He sent you money?
Jeff
Wow. Alexis, are you taking notes over there?
Jeffrey
He sent you money and then stopped talking to you? Because that's kind of strange.
Jeff
Yeah. What happened after that?
Listener (Jillian or Carly)
Yeah, and then we were supposed to go out again, and now he's just not responding.
Jeffrey
Huh.
Brooke
Huh.
Jeff
Interesting.
Jeffrey
Do you think he regrets the money he sent like, maybe sent it when he was feeling bad. And then after he thought about. He's like, ah, man, that's kind of a weird.
Alexis
That was his money for the date, and then he ran out.
Brooke
I bought a nice gift for a girl, and you spent a couple hundred bucks. And then they kind of insinuate they want another, and you realize, all right, this may be the base of the whole relationship. I'm gonna back out right now.
Jeff
An exchange of money or goods can change the vibe between two people.
Jeffrey
You would know, Jeff.
Jeff
Yes.
Jeffrey
Yeah.
Jeff
Yeah. I am very cold after the exchange. I will tell you that, even though I'm satisfied in the moment. Anyway, just leave. Let's just not get into this anymore. We need to call Blaine and figure out where his head is at. That's the most important. We're gonna come back and do that with your second date update right after this second date update. We're in the middle of a second date update with one of our listeners, Carly. Am I saying that right?
Ryan Seacrest
Carly?
Jeffrey
Yeah. Do you want to emphasize the why more? Carly? Carly.
Brooke
Exotic.
Jeff
It could be. Look at the traditional pronunciation of Carly. We're all still recovering from some of the information that we learned about her date with Blaine.
Jeffrey
She shared a lot.
Jeff
She did all the highlights real quick. They had a great meetup at Topgolf. It's where they met. Had a great get to know you date sesh, followed by kind of an awkward text exchange that involved him sending our listener Carly money because she admitted she was short on rent, which is.
Jeffrey
Really kind of him.
Jeff
It is, but it's does change the vibe. I mean, me just saying it.
Brooke
Yeah, it does.
Jeff
It feels awkward to say they exchanged money afterwards, but he did send her some, and then after that, did not follow through with their plans for another date.
Brooke
I have a question. I usually don't pipe up this early, but was it a loan? Like, was this something you're supposed to pay you back, or he just gave you the money expecting nothing?
Listener (Jillian or Carly)
Yeah, he didn't say it was a loan. He just.
Brooke
It's not if he's not calling you back.
Jeff
Okay.
Jeffrey
He's the worst loan shark ever, mind. I mean, maybe it's just because she didn't send him a formal thank you.
Ryan Seacrest
I feel like.
Jeff
Carl, you must have said thank you, right?
Listener (Jillian or Carly)
Oh, yeah, of course.
Jeff
Okay, so what's running through your head then? What's going through your mind before we reach out to him?
Listener (Jillian or Carly)
I don't know. I mean, like, it might have made it weird, but I really, like, I. I don't know.
Jeffrey
Yeah, you don't know. But you also made your rent, right? So that's good news.
Listener (Jillian or Carly)
Yeah, but I really like him, so, I mean, like, I'll just be really bummed if that's the reason, you know?
Jeff
Yeah.
Jeffrey
I'm gonna tell you, if a guy asked me to help pay his rent, I probably wouldn't call him back.
Alexis
She didn't ask.
Jeff
Husband Michael, do not ask Brooke to chip in towards the ring. This is on you this time around. All right, bud.
Jeffrey
Okay.
Jeff
Let's just reach out. We'll see if Blaine picks up, and hopefully he has an explanation for us. But here we go.
Zach
Hello?
Jeff
Hey, is this Blaine?
Blaine
Yeah, this is Blaine.
Jeff
Hey, man, what's up? It's Jeff.
Jeffrey
Oh, just friendly, just on a first name basis. No Jeff.
Jeff
I thought he would know. No, no. Okay.
Alexis
When has anybody ever known him? Yeah, no offense.
Jeff
Thanks a lot.
Blaine
I'm sorry, who are you guys?
Jeff
Yeah, I'll explain. We're a radio show. We're called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning.
Jeffrey
Welcome to the show.
Brooke
Yeah.
Blaine
Oh, great.
Jeff
It's a good thing.
Brooke
Should be.
Jeff
We're calling you for a really fun, exciting reason, because we're doing this segment called Second Date Update, and we got an email from one of our listeners named Carly who says she's very disappointed that you two aren't seeing each other and hanging out again.
Jeffrey
Yeah, she really liked you.
Blaine
Yeah.
Zach
Okay.
Jeffrey
Okay.
Jeff
Okay.
Jeffrey
Does that make you. Does that make you curious? You have.
Blaine
No, not really. I mean, she's cute, she's fun. I just thought interested in seeing her again. I mean, what else do you want me to tell you?
Jeffrey
Yeah, I get it. Cute and fun. Yeah, right?
Jeff
There's a million of those out there. But look, it would be helpful if we get a little bit of information for. Maybe there's more reasoning why. I don't know if it's too much to delve into this, but I did hear that the two of you guys kissed at the end of your date.
Jeffrey
Oh.
Jeff
And usually when that happens and the lady says she wants to go out again, and that's a pretty exciting thing for a guy.
Brooke
Only anger kisses come from Brooke.
Blaine
Yeah, we had a nice kiss at the end of the date.
Jeffrey
Okay, can you give us something here to tell her? Like.
Blaine
Well, okay, after our date, we started texting each other. She said, thanks, had a good time, and then we started making plans and she mentioned that she was gonna be short on rent next month.
Jeff
Oh. Oh, whoa. That's new information to us.
Listener (Jillian or Carly)
Wait, we're gonna say that I Don't know.
Alexis
O chance. You sent her money?
Blaine
Yeah, so I actually did. Wow.
Jeffrey
I guess we're all acting surprised now.
Jeff
Dude, what a generous move of you. How much?
Brooke
Wow.
Jeffrey
So, wait, I have a question. Why did you send her money?
Blaine
I felt bad. I mean, like, I've been short, too, and I just felt like I could help her out. I'm in a decent spot, all right? I asked her what her Venmo was, and I kicked her $200.
Zach
Damn. Right away.
Jeff
Damn. She mentioned that you were, like, a really good, caring guy. So. So that's clearly coming through.
Jeffrey
And when you're describing it, too, like, you're not shaming her. You're not making her feel bad, like.
Jeff
Yeah, right. Did that make it weird, though, to give her the $200?
Blaine
Not exactly. I mean, what was weird is that she was like. She was very appreciative. She was like, thank you. Thank you.
Jeff
You know?
Jeffrey
Yeah.
Blaine
But then she says, I'm still 800 short.
Brooke
Oh, she needed a grand.
Jeff
Oh, yeah.
Jeffrey
Wait. Okay.
Brooke
But good luck with that. Like, maybe.
Jeffrey
Maybe she was just telling you that so that.
Jeff
So that you could run her finances.
Alexis
Yeah, like, before, how? She already said she couldn't pay rent. I don't know.
Jeffrey
There's a reason.
Brooke
She should follow up with that.
Jeff
Yeah. What was going on?
Alexis
She shouldn't have brought it up in the first.
Jeff
What was going on with your. In your mind?
Blaine
There's no way I'm giving a thousand dollars to a chick I just met, you know? And I'm thinking about, like, that's just a bad feeling, you know? It's a whole bad vibe.
Jeffrey
Yeah. And that's really short on rent. Yeah.
Jeff
Yeah.
Blaine
I started thinking, like, does she do this to other guys?
Jeffrey
It definitely doesn't feel like she's a scam artist or anything when we talk.
Jeff
Yeah.
Brooke
Most girls don't at first, Brooke.
Jeffrey
Oh, is that how it works?
Alexis
I feel like it's pretty obvious.
Blaine
Whatever her situation is, it's just not something I want to be involved with.
Jeff
I think before you make any final decisions on that, I feel like maybe you need to hear from Carly herself, because she has been listening on the other line wanting to talk to you on the phone. Yeah, she's waiting for the other $800.
Jeffrey
So she didn't call for that?
Jeff
No, I'm kidding. We didn't even know about the $800 deficit. So just let Carly talk to you here. Carl, are you there?
Jeffrey
Hey.
Listener (Jillian or Carly)
Yeah, I'm here. I mean, you're acting like it's a big Deal? To ask a question. Like, I was, you know, just informing. Like, I just told him I was still short.
Brooke
Are you putting it out as a vibe? Like, as an insinuation?
Blaine
Like, why else would you tell me that after I just gave you $200? You know, like, why?
Zach
Why?
Blaine
Why else would you share that information? And what's the. What's this thing about, like, now I'm gonna have to go to work?
Jeff
What?
Jeffrey
Is that what you said, Carly, you're not working?
Blaine
She actually said to me, I still got the text. I can read it to you.
Jeffrey
Oh, that's what I wanted in the very beginning.
Jeff
Please help us.
Jeffrey
That's what I asked her to do.
Jeff
Yeah? What did she say?
Blaine
Well, no, it says right here. She's like, look, I need $800 more from you or I'm gonna have to go to work.
Jeff
Oh, okay.
Alexis
That's way different.
Jeffrey
Wow, Carly, I thought you were trying to be vulnerable with this guy, know. Yeah.
Listener (Jillian or Carly)
Who wants to go to work? I mean, like, nobody does. I don't want to.
Jeffrey
That is crazy.
Blaine
This makes me question everything. Like, how did she even get that top golf? You know, did she pay for it or somebody else pay for it?
Jeff
You know, you don't have to pay for topgolf.
Jeffrey
What? Yes, you do.
Jeff
If you're at a birthday party, you don't.
Jeffrey
Jeff, everyone chips in for birthday parties except for you. It's the same thing when we go to any group thing. And I have to say, Jeff, you have to pay.
Jeff
If you leave before they bring the bill, there's nothing they can do. Oh, my God. I'm just saying, just like, everything's free.
Brooke
If you don't pay.
Jeffrey
Do not back this up, Carly. This is not good for you.
Alexis
I just believe you want rent. Go on, like, a sugar daddy site, not a normal dating site.
Brooke
Yeah, you don't got to trick people.
Jeff
You can just be open about it.
Jeffrey
Yeah, I mean, or just get a job. Why is someone saying that sucks? It's just the universal rule in life.
Jeff
Why are you being mean? She went to work. She got the money, she paid her rent.
Jeffrey
She said till next month.
Jeff
The person that we really need to focus on here is Blaine. I bet he feels horrible for not coming through for Carly in her time of need and making her work and dishing out the $800.
Brooke
Right, Blaine, man, what a jerk.
Blaine
Yeah, I. I see. I feel so horrible.
Jeff
Okay, yeah, we wanted to hear because.
Blaine
No, I. I'm not responsible for somebody. Oh, man.
Jeff
Well, here's what you won't have to Be responsible for paying for your next date with Carly because we will cover that bill for you.
Jeffrey
Is that why you called us in the beginning, Carly? Because we were going to cover the check?
Listener (Jillian or Carly)
No.
Jeff
Oh, actually, wait. That made me think of something. Carly, did you move up the date a few days earlier so you could ask him for your rent before it was due?
Jeffrey
Because they were supposed to go out on Friday?
Jeff
Is that why you changed the date?
Listener (Jillian or Carly)
That it's a coincidence?
Jeff
Come on. No.
Brooke
Oh, no way.
Jeffrey
Tuesday is way too specific to be a coincidence.
Jeff
31St of the month.
Brooke
Weird.
Jeff
Carly, I am equally parts disappointed and impressed by you.
Listener (Jillian or Carly)
Okay, you guys are reading way too much into this. Like, can we just get on with the gift card thing?
Jeff
Okay, joke's on you, Carly. Nobody here reads. But let's. Let's do what you said. Let's ask Blaine. Would you like to go out with Carly one more time?
Ryan Seacrest
Yeah.
Jeff
Our dime.
Blaine
I'm not feeling it. No, I mean, come on. Next thing I know, she's probably going to be trying to sell me some bitcoin or something.
Jeff
Carly, do you have some available though? Because now's the time. It sounds like.
Listener (Jillian or Carly)
No, I don't do crypto.
Alexis
She has standards. She doesn't do any money.
Jeffrey
She has no money. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
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Man, I didn't know that working was optional. Oh, my God.
Jeffrey
It's not, Jeff.
Brooke
We've all been here dedicating our whole lives.
Jeff
Yeah, I didn't know I could do that. I really need to look on to that. Hold on a second. Hey, Brooke, I'm a little short on play money this month. You rent your clothes, so I'm sure you've got some extra cash. Question, question mark? No, Brooke's checking your phone send. Okay. Okay, I'll see how she responds to that. I don't know.
Brooke
Hopefully she's looking at her phone.
Jeffrey
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Jeff
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Jeffrey
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Jeff
I'm not sending you pics for it. You know what?
Brooke
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Alexis
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Jeff
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Brooke
Hopefully the podcast either.
Jeff
No, I'm going to send her the link and my photo's on there, so.
Jeffrey
I'm going to send you a link to my rental clothes.
Jeff
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Brooke
Oh, God.
Jeff
Please do not talk to me ever again. Thank you.
Brooke
It's going to be tough.
Jeff
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Brooke
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Date: October 11, 2025
Hosts: Brooke, Jeffrey, Alexis, Jeff
Feature Episodes: "I'm Onto You" & "Just A Little Short"
The episode delivers two classic “Second Date Update” segments, where the hosts help someone confused or ghosted after a first date by contacting the other party to get real answers. This particular episode features stories that highlight misunderstandings, hidden motives, and singular approaches to dating—leading to equal parts comedic relief and cringe.
[Segment Starts ~04:05]
Jillian reached out to the show after her recent promising in-person bar meet-cute with Zach swiftly soured. Despite making plans for a skee ball date, she receives a cryptic cancellation text—"I'm on to you. Date's off." Mystified, Jillian asks the Brooke and Jeffrey team to intervene and get to the bottom of the bizarre message.
Jillian's Bar Encounter
Hosts' Initial Speculation
Zach Joins the Call
Jillian’s Response
Resolution
[Segment Starts ~23:13]
Carly had a seemingly great first date with Blaine after meeting at Topgolf. They hit it off, shared a “really good” kiss, and planned to meet up again. But post-date texts about her struggles to pay rent—and a request for more money following Blaine's $200 Venmo—resulted in silence from his end.
How Carly and Blaine Met
The Date and the Aftermath
Money Sent, Then Silence
The $800 Curveball
Carly’s Defense
Resolution
If you enjoy messy, comedic deep-dives into the world of online dating and real-life romance mishaps, this episode captures it all. For more "Second Date Update" chaos, check out Brooke and Jeffrey’s full archives.
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