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Ashton
it's Brooke and Jeffrey's second date. Classic update. It's me, Ashton, in the studio, by myself. They're all at home and they just gave me the free reign to do whatever I wanted today. So I'm thinking I'll probably drink some of Jose's old coffee he's got left sitting at his desk, maybe steal some of those sour patch watermelons that Alexis has at her desk. Just steal one of the many credit cards that Brooke has laying around in hers. And while I do that, you guys can enjoy this classic second day update. Enjoy. I love you.
Jeffrey
Why is it best friends always make the worst matchmaking decisions when they're trying to set you up?
Brooke
Amen, Jeffrey.
Jeffrey
Seriously, they're like, what? He's a great guy.
Brooke
Guy.
Jeffrey
He's just got a weird roommate that he's quote unquote legally married to with several children.
Alexis
Oh my God.
Brooke
But he's perfect for you. Yeah, he is perfect for you. You guys would be so cute. All right.
Alexis
Oh, she's super annoying. Her laugh is so obnoxious. Just like yours.
Brooke
Yeah.
Alexis
Can you imagine us together in a room then?
Nicholas
Oh my God.
Jeffrey
One of our listeners had the shock of a lifetime when her friend tried to set her up on a date at the last minute. And as she walked into the bar that night, she knew immediately there had been a terrible misunderstanding. Still though, she gave it her best shot. And you're gonna hear what happened in a second date update right after this.
Brooke
Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning Second date update.
Jeffrey
If someone sets you up on a blind date, what are the worst possible case scenarios that could come of it? Like in the first five minutes they ask for a job interview at your company. Oh, I don't know. You would like that.
Brooke
I mean, I thought of worse things in my head than that.
Alexis
I can't even get you in anymore.
Jeffrey
Like driving the getaway car and they do the bank heist.
Brooke
I mean, how hot are they?
Jeffrey
Let's say they were really hot.
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I mean, I'm a good fast driver.
Brooke
Okay, that's Exciting, poor drive.
Jeffrey
Maybe you realize halfway through dinner your date is just three children standing on top of each other in a trench coat. It happens more than you think.
Alexis
Hey, you guys want to go play Fortnite? This is kind of cool.
Jeffrey
Best case scenario for Jose. But one of our little listeners, Janelle, said she had the worst possible thing happen after she was set up on a date by her friend. And it's led her to us today.
Brooke
Wait, Janelle, worse than the three children on stacked on top of each other?
Janelle
It's so much worse than that.
Jeffrey
Oh, wow.
Alexis
Four children.
Jeffrey
Five toddlers. Baby duty.
Brooke
Okay, we're gonna stop laughing at your pain.
Jeffrey
Yeah, let's stop guessing. Why don't you tell us a story? You said a friend friend set you up on a blind date.
Janelle
Yeah. So one of my friends at work, she was at happy hour and there's this cute guy, okay, she's seen there and she wanted me to hang out
Brooke
like a waiter at the happy hour place. Is that what you're saying?
Janelle
No, he hangs out there.
Jeffrey
Sorry for Brooke. Her biggest fantasy is like making away with one of the staff with the help.
Brooke
Fantasy or reality, Jeff? Let's be honest.
Jeffrey
Well, yeah, that's true. Okay, who was she trying to set you up with?
Janelle
Well, this guy named David. She's like, He's a real cutie. So why don't you come up here and just try your hand?
Brooke
Okay.
Jeffrey
This is like a spontaneous date that she set up while she was out somewhere already.
Janelle
Yeah. So I get up there and, well, I got cute, of course. And we get there and it's not busy at all. So once I walk inside the door, I immediately lock eyes with. It's gotta be David. And guess what?
Brooke
What?
Janelle
I know David already because he is experiment three years ago, okay?
Alexis
It didn't work out. What a small world.
Brooke
So she knows your type because it is your type because you've dated him before?
Janelle
Yes.
Jeffrey
Oh, no.
Brooke
Is that good or bad?
Janelle
Awkward, because he kind of just disappeared
Brooke
on me three years ago.
Janelle
He texted me like, and just gave me my walking papers. Be attacked.
Jeffrey
Oh, he did text.
Alexis
It was goodbye. We're done.
Brooke
Yeah.
Jeffrey
At least he messaged you. A lot of guys wouldn't even have the date. You need to do that.
Brooke
I love how that's still a positive.
Alexis
Yeah.
Brooke
How long did you guys hang out for three years ago?
Janelle
Just for a few months. It wasn't long at all, but just kind of by, you know. Wow.
Jeffrey
Oh, my God, dude. So how did your friends find out that this was your ex?
Janelle
Well, I just kind of blurted it out. I was like, I dated him before.
Brooke
Oh, my God. What did they say?
Janelle
Everybody was just embarrassed for me. And, well, David was. He kind of pulled me to the side. And he's apologetic. He said he wanted to explain to me the reason, but I didn't want an explanation like, oh, about why he
Brooke
kind of ghosted you before.
Jeffrey
Maybe there was a good explanation.
Brooke
What was it?
Jeffrey
What was it?
Alexis
Yeah.
Janelle
Well, he kind of just let me know that he wasn't ready for what I was looking for. At that time.
Jeffrey
He was busy studying to be a doctor to save babies lives.
Alexis
It's usually not the excuse.
Brooke
I don't think that was.
Jeffrey
You think it was something worse than that?
Brooke
No. Yeah, I think he had other ideas of what he wanted to do with his time or who probably didn't want
Alexis
to get tied down.
Jeffrey
Most men don't lie about that stuff, but.
Brooke
Okay, did he do the thing where he comes crawling back? Because now he's seen that there isn't anything better in the dating world.
Janelle
I can't say that. But what I can say is, after a few drinks, we talked about making out. I mean, you talked about making out?
Alexis
You were thinking about making out?
Brooke
Who brought that up?
Janelle
I did. He was kind of one of my best makeout partners.
Alexis
Oh, yeah.
Brooke
Okay, so you're totally disappointed that it was David when you showed up to the bar.
Alexis
I guess you could make out though.
Jeffrey
But you've gone from like, I cannot believe I got set up with this horrible ex of mine to talking about, you're the best makeout I've ever had.
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Janelle
Isn't it funny how life is
Brooke
what happened at night?
Jeffrey
Yeah. How did it end? Oh, yeah.
Janelle
Well, guys, I'm gonna shock you with this one. We made out.
Jeffrey
You don't say.
Alexis
With the best kisser ever.
Brooke
Come on. You went back to his place?
Janelle
No, no, no. He sent me home in an Uber. Like I was on cloud nine.
Brooke
Gentlemen.
Alexis
Wow.
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Did you want the Uber or was he like, see ya, the way you said it?
Brooke
She's getting in. Wait, I thought this was your car.
Jeffrey
Stop asking to make out with me and go home.
Alexis
That's a good point, Alexis.
Jeffrey
That was good.
Alexis
We were saying. Congrats. Did you want to leave with him or no?
Janelle
Of course I wanted to leave with him.
David
Okay.
Jeffrey
But he was trying to be responsible about it.
Alexis
It ended the way it should.
Brooke
Okay, did you really think at the end of the night you would hear from him again?
Janelle
I was hoping.
Jeffrey
Okay, you were after all this?
Janelle
Some people grow. You know it's true.
Jeffrey
Okay, have you tried to contact him after that night happened?
David
Yeah.
Brooke
You have? How many times and at what time
Janelle
of day history has it repeats itself? Apparently I didn't learn my lesson because he's not responding again.
Alexis
We're back to this stage.
Brooke
And why do you think us calling him is going to make a difference?
Alexis
Because we're not her bro.
Janelle
At least he'll be honest. Like I'll learn something from this.
Jeffrey
Okay, you're still willing to give this guy a chance after he ditched you not once, but twice?
Alexis
Or this will end the cycle. This will be it.
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I mean, it's not that toxic.
Brooke
I know. It's not bad.
Jeffrey
Don't trust the Gen Z on what's toxic and not in a relationship.
Janelle
There's a lot worse.
Brooke
I don't know about Gen Z here, but don't trust Alexis.
Alexis
She just texted 4 boys before we started this.
Jeffrey
But you know what? We're going to try this. We're going to do this for you, Janelle. We're going to call David, who's technically one of your exes.
Alexis
Wow.
Jeffrey
And see if he's willing to give it another shot with you.
Janelle
Three times.
Brooke
I hope he remembers you.
Jeffrey
All right, what's happening? We're doing it with our second date update right after this. Hold on.
Brooke
Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Second date update.
Jeffrey
If you're just joining us, this is definitely an unusual one for second date. Yeah, because we're kind of reaching out to Janelle's ex boyfriend, David.
Brooke
I don't think there's a kinda about it.
Jeffrey
Yeah, it's the return of the Dave. Because they dated. They dated three years ago when he suddenly ditched her over text message.
Brooke
Yikes.
Jeffrey
So fast forward to today at a random happy hour. They accidentally got set up on a blind date. Which of course was very awkward when it first started. But after an apology and a lot of drinks, they were in a much better place.
Brooke
Yes.
Jeffrey
Even ended up making out again that night.
Brooke
Which, I mean, your ex is at a bar. Who isn't going to make out with them? It's how you say hi.
Jeffrey
Yeah, but now Dave is being shady once again.
Brooke
Ah, shocking.
Jeffrey
So we need to call him and figure out once and for all what's going on. Brooke, what are your thoughts on this situation?
Brooke
I just think you know already what's going on, but I get it.
Alexis
Like, it's the chase.
Brooke
It's a chase. It's. Why doesn't he want you? Like that is Totally understandable.
Alexis
You're right, Brooke.
Janelle
I'll never know unless I ask. How about that?
Jeffrey
Okay, the two times that he told you. No, that's a hint.
Brooke
The thing is, she wants an answer that he hasn't given her yet, right? Yes.
Jeffrey
Okay. Maybe a radio show calling will help give him some clarity and realize that you're the one for him.
Brooke
The one.
Janelle
Exactly.
Brooke
Okay. I still think there's something there. You're hoping he grew up.
Jeffrey
Okay, yeah, the dating world has really messed you up.
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I told you, this doesn't sound that bad.
Jeffrey
All right, well, you know what? There's some optimism in the room. Let's give David a call, see if he answers down the number. Right now.
David
Hello?
Jeffrey
Hey, we're looking to talk to David.
David
Yeah, this is him.
Jeffrey
Hey, David, brace yourself, because you're on the radio right now.
Brooke
Hey, David.
Alexis
Yo.
Brooke
Welcome to the show.
Nicholas
What?
David
Is this allowed?
Brooke
Allowed?
Alexis
Yeah, required. It's part of our show.
Jeffrey
As long as I tell you that you're on the radio, then it's legal.
David
Yeah.
Brooke
Isn't that funny? It's very easy.
David
Yeah.
Nicholas
Okay. What's up?
Jeffrey
Yeah, don't worry.
Alexis
We'll be stuff if you swear.
Jeffrey
This is a segment that we do called a Second Date Update where we try to help one of our listeners reconnect with somebody that they had, like, a romantic spark with.
Nicholas
Okay.
Jeffrey
Okay. And this is a woman that you actually have a lot of history with, but you met up with her again recently at a happy hour named Janelle.
David
Oh, why does she want.
Brooke
Oh, so that was like a. What does she want? So excited.
Jeffrey
I mean, the short answer is, like, what she wants is to see you again.
David
Oh, no. Yeah, I don't know about that.
Brooke
Oh, were you excited to see Janelle when she walked into the bar?
Janelle
No.
David
That was super awkward.
Jeffrey
Oh, okay.
Alexis
Hold on, hold on. In her defense, she was like, oh, no, I've dated him. And it was like, it was awkward for her, too.
Brooke
Yeah, that's true.
Jeffrey
It was awkward for the people in the room, too, when they all found out that you guys had been together before.
David
Yeah.
Jeffrey
So.
David
Yeah, okay.
Jeffrey
I mean, totally understandable. But Janelle said that after you guys hung out for a little bit, after you had a few drinks, things seemed to settle in more. And you even apologized to her.
David
Oh, yeah. I mean, like, I don't like that. I semi ghosted her. It's not like who I am, you know? I don't mean to do that.
Brooke
That's kind of what you're doing again
Jeffrey
because, well, he doesn't like that he's doing it again. It just doesn't make him good. But he will do it.
David
Yeah. I mean, like, look, I know I. I told her I had grown, but, like, I don't want to date.
Brooke
Wait, you don't want to date, or you don't want to date her?
David
Just in general. Honestly, I mean, she. I know she wants to, like, settle down and have kids, and, like, we talked about that, but I don't. I don't want to do that. I don't. I want to be single. I don't want to disappoint her or anything.
Brooke
I think that that is, like, such a hard thing for women to accept, and I don't. Like. I think that you're totally valid for saying that, but, like, so many times, women can be like, well, but if you do it with me.
Jeffrey
Yeah.
David
You know, I can see us having plans on a Friday night, and then a buddy calls me up and is like, hey, you want to go hang out? And honest to God, I would ditch her. It's an unfortunate circumstance. It's like, I won't make her a priority.
Brooke
Yeah. Yeah.
Alexis
I mean, it's funny because it's mature that you know that. And you can, like. Like, say that, but.
Brooke
Right. But it's not mature. That the priority. Yeah, that's okay.
Alexis
Yeah.
David
I don't care. Like, whatever judgment call you want to put on it, it's who I am, and I admit it.
Brooke
Yeah.
Janelle
There we go.
Alexis
Own it, brother.
Brooke
Yep. When somebody says who they are, you got to believe them.
Alexis
Absolutely. At least you're saying it. Some people just ghost. Well, wait, he was doing.
Brooke
He was.
David
I mean, I was going to text. I was going to text her, but
Brooke
honestly, you in that classic text. You love that thing.
Jeffrey
I'm sorry to ruin your plans to text you, her and ditch her, but we need to tell you she's actually on the phone right now. She's haunting, wanting to talk to you.
Janelle
Hi, David.
Brooke
Oh, coming in.
Jeffrey
Oh, yeah. That's different energy than I thought.
David
Hi.
Janelle
How are you?
Jeffrey
Janelle, you heard what he was saying, right?
Janelle
Yeah. I mean, but, like, what could be so bad? David?
Jeffrey
Like, wait, wait.
Brooke
Are you not listening to him?
Janelle
I mean, if you wanted to hang out with your friends while we were hanging out, all you have to do is say so. You can do that.
Brooke
Oh, God, don't do that.
David
Seriously, like, you don't mean that, right?
Janelle
Yes, it will be no issue.
Brooke
No, really, Janelle, this is like, I'm a cool girl. Walk all over me. Like, don't do that.
Janelle
Oh, I'm trying to be understanding.
Brooke
Yeah, you have to be understand with someone who will make you also a priority.
David
Yes.
Alexis
Thank you. Who respects you.
David
I mean, you want to be understanding. Understand that, like, I don't want this.
Janelle
Oh, what exactly don't you want?
Alexis
The more they like, it's crazy.
David
I don't know. You want to be in a serious relationship, and I'm looking for a very much more casual thing. I don't think you get it.
Janelle
I have a lot of casual clothes. I can put on casual gears.
Brooke
Dude, that's a good spin. That's a good spin.
David
Okay, well, I don't know if you like who I am. I really don't.
Janelle
What? You're an awesome person. What is there not to like about you?
David
I don't want to do that. I don't want to. Look, I bite my toenails and I eat them. All right? I eat my toenails and I put the big ones. I keep the big ones in a little box.
Jeffrey
Oh, God.
Brooke
But the flexibility it takes to be able to do that.
Janelle
We'll just work on healthier coping mechanisms. Like, that's all
Nicholas
that.
Alexis
He's trying to get rid of her.
Nicholas
Guys.
Janelle
There's so many other things that you can chew on.
Brooke
Yeah, I will chew.
Jeffrey
I feel like he's politely as possible trying to steer you away from a bad situation.
Alexis
Not even that.
Brooke
But I will say to her credit, I don't know. When we talked to her, she didn't say she wanted a big relationship with you. She literally said, I just want a couple more dates.
Alexis
She wants to hang out, bro.
Janelle
Hanging out.
David
Like, yeah, No, I. I don't.
Janelle
I don't think you really eating baby or anything with you.
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David
I don't think you get me. Like, I'm super lazy, okay? Like, I pee in the backyard instead of going upstairs to go pee in
Janelle
the bathroom fertilizing plants.
David
I'm kind of lazy.
Janelle
There's nothing wrong with that.
Brooke
What?
Alexis
Oh, my God.
Brooke
Janelle, pick up your self respect. It's on the floor.
Janelle
I'm not a quitter. I am not a quitter.
Jeffrey
Not a quitter.
Brooke
Don't ask it then, Jeffrey. Do it.
Jeffrey
Jeff, Janelle is still into this after the toe biting and the backyard defecating. We'd love to send you guys on another date that we would pay for.
Alexis
And he'll probably ditch you halfway through for his friends.
Jeffrey
I know the answer is yes from Janelle already, so we need to get an answer from you. David, would you be willing to see her one more time.
Janelle
No,
David
you're great. Seriously, you're great. It's not you, but it's me. I just don't want this.
Brooke
That's classic.
Jeffrey
Well Janelle, I'm sorry, but it looks like we're not going to be able to set you up again with your ex boyfriend.
Janelle
Womp womp womp.
Alexis
That is the univers sound.
Jeffrey
That's. That's the title of Janelle's entire dating life.
Brooke
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Jeffrey
oh, man, I have a lot of going.
Brooke
Did you even. I mean, before we even called him, I didn't have hope.
Ashton
What?
Jeffrey
Rekindling an old relationship worked for JLo. And Ben Affleck did it the fourth time. I'm sure they look absolutely miserable whenever they're around each other. And both of their careers are tanking at an astronomical rate together.
Brooke
Jeffrey.
Jeffrey
But they filmed the Dunkin Donuts commercial together. Brooke.
Brooke
Okay.
Alexis
Which we love.
Brooke
It is literally the only good thing that happened. And that was mostly because Matt Damon was.
Alexis
I was just gonna say that.
Jeffrey
Well, they could have had their Matt Damon Dunkin Donuts Donuts commercial moment. Unfortunately, someone wasn't willing to give it a chance.
Brooke
Wow. What a stickler he is for his own ideals.
Alexis
So you lost me in the analogy. So she needs to date Matt Damon.
Brooke
Yeah, sure. We'll go with that conclusion.
Jeffrey
I think that's a good thing. We should reach out to him next. And we can reach out to anybody that you want us to. You just have to call us and we'll call that person. Not calling you back. And go check out all of our second dates. Wherever you get your podcast at. Brook and Jeff.
Janelle
Yeah.
Brooke
Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning
Jeffrey
on a dinner date. It's not totally unheard of to ask the waiter if you could switch tables.
Alexis
No, no, not at all.
Brooke
That's pretty normal.
Jeffrey
Cause maybe the leg is wobbly or maybe it's right below the air conditioning vent.
Brooke
Dude, I hate that. It's the worst.
Jeffrey
Or maybe you just want to be less visible to the security camera so they can't see what's happening under the tablecloth.
Alexis
Wait a minute.
Jeffrey
We're playing Uno.
Janelle
What?
Brooke
Under the table in the middle of the restaurant?
Jeffrey
Yeah, duh. What else do you play? But in today's call, none of those explanations seem to fit for why a guy asked to switch booths halfway through a date.
Alexis
Uh oh.
Jeffrey
And we were all stunned when we finally learned the actual reason he demanded to switch locations. Did not have it on my bingo card, I'll tell you that. You'll hear it in a second date update. Next.
Brooke
Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning second date update.
Jeffrey
If you go out on a really good first date, it might end in a little kiss. It could end in a tender hug.
Brooke
That's nice.
Jeffrey
Or if you're lucky, a three way chicken fight with your parents.
Alexis
What the heck?
Brooke
I don't even know what that is.
Jeffrey
Sitting on top of each other's shoulders inside of a pool. Well, one of our listeners says she got something else at the end of her neck night. A two word whisper in her ear and she's not sure really what it meant, if anything. So let's talk to her.
Brooke
I don't like it. I just cringe thinking someone whispering in my ear. The air like, flowing on you.
Jeffrey
It could be something really nice and romantic, maybe. Angie, welcome to the show. I'm very curious about this whisper, but before we get to that, first tell us the guy's name and how you met him.
Alexis
Whisper it to us.
Nicholas
Nicholas.
Alexis
Nicholas.
Brooke
No more whispering.
Jeffrey
No more whispering until the actual whisper happens. How about that? Because I want to know what it's
Alexis
their car to their radios down or up there.
Jeffrey
I don't know. So you met Nicholas How?
Janelle
I mean, it's kind of embarrassing, but we met on plenty of fish, which I know people don't even use anymore,
Alexis
but yeah, I think there's actual only fish on there now.
Jeffrey
I have a question.
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Janelle
I don't know. It's just one of those that, like, I set up a profile I don't even know how long ago. And then I'll get in a relationship and I'll get off it, but, like, I can just go reactivate it.
David
I don't know.
Brooke
Okay, dumb question.
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Alexis
Honestly.
Jeffrey
It only operates over facts now.
Brooke
Okay, I thought it still was printed out on the back of the weeklies.
Jeffrey
Yeah, that could be.
Alexis
I want to Google this now.
Jeffrey
But the important, important thing is that you matched with this Nicholas guy. So tell us, what did you do for your date?
Janelle
We went to dinner. We went to a Thai place, which is one of my faves, so that was good.
Brooke
Did he remember that it was one of your favorites? Because that's always, like, really nice too.
Janelle
Well, I picked it, so that made. Okay.
Brooke
Okay.
Jeffrey
He deserves credit a little bit for going along with it. So let's get him.
Janelle
I'm a lady who knows what she likes. And it's pad Thai.
Brooke
You're really venturous.
Jeffrey
Awesome. So what did you think when you first saw each other?
Ashton
Other?
Janelle
I mean, I feel like we hit it off. I mean, I will say dating kind of sucks. And I feel like a lot of times they get like, flirty to the point that you're like, all right, dude, calm down. Like, they'll ask you for sexy pictures before you even met. And he didn't. He was more like soft spoken. More like a. Like a nerdy type, but it was cute.
Alexis
Sounds like he was your speed, right?
Brooke
And he was respectful of your boundaries.
Jeffrey
So a nice guy. That. That's sweet and considerate. I'm surprised you didn't unmatch him immediately.
Janelle
Crazy, right?
Brooke
So that's really funny. Okay, was there any, like, I don't know, moments of real flirtation that happened?
Janelle
Yeah, I mean, it felt like a good first date for the most part. But like, I don't know, there'd be like, I'd ask him a question and there'd be like a five second delay, and then he would go into the answer and it wasn't weird at all,
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Brooke
You know, though, some people are just bad at. At timing in a conversation. Have you ever talked to somebody who, like, takes really long pauses and you're like, wait, do I go? Do we not go? Do we go? Like, maybe his timing is just a little off.
Janelle
Maybe.
Jeffrey
Are you talking about me?
Brooke
Sorry.
Alexis
Sorry Jeff cut you off.
Brooke
See, he waited to let me answer it.
Jeffrey
So I like to think of it as, I'm just a good listener.
Janelle
Yeah, but I was done talking and I mean, he was checking his phone a lot, so I wonder if maybe, like, maybe he thought it was boring. I don't know.
Alexis
You know what? I think this is mind blowing to me. He does something that I could never do, and that is think before he speaks.
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Alexis
Oh, Google. Is he typing stuff?
Jeffrey
5 seconds would be a fast Google.
Brooke
I know maybe he's having AI listen
Jeffrey
in, but I was thinking the same thing.
Janelle
There was one point, like, early on, after we sat down, like before we had ordered anything, he was like, oh, man, it's really loud over here. And he was like, do you mind if we move to, like, the back where it's quieter? And I was like, no, that's fine. And they move us.
Brooke
But maybe. I don't know. I think it's a little. I honestly think we're overthinking it.
Jeffrey
I was just thinking what Jose was thinking. Like, if this is a really sweet, nice guy who's trying to come off like he really cares, he might take a second to try and come up with a really good answer to your question.
Alexis
I think blurting stuff out, the whole
Brooke
point is that the awkward pauses didn't bother you, right?
Janelle
No. I wouldn't say they bothered me. I just. It was weird.
Alexis
It was noticeable.
Jeffrey
Okay.
Brooke
Because they probably didn't bother him. That's how he communicates.
Alexis
Yeah, maybe to him. He was like. That was a normal back and forth.
Brooke
Totally.
Jeffrey
So overall, pretty solid date. I'm really, really interested, though. In the end here, when he whispers
Alexis
something in your ear, the two words,
Brooke
I want to know if he waited five seconds before he did the whispering.
Jeffrey
Run us through what happened there.
Janelle
Okay, so end of the day, we are, like, outside of the restaurant about to go our separate ways. I give him a hug, and when I hug him, he whispers in my ear, good job.
Brooke
Good job.
Alexis
Good job.
Janelle
Yeah, like, thumbs up, good job.
Alexis
Well, that's weir.
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Alexis
Maybe he just doesn't know how to end a date. Yeah, like, without a kiss.
Brooke
Or maybe it was inner dialogue that came out. Maybe he was talking to him.
Jeffrey
Is it like the thing where you're wanting to be like, hey, good date, or like, in two words, you mix two things together and accidentally say something awkward?
Brooke
Honestly, it could be the whole reason he's not calling you back. Because he's like, God, why did I say that?
Janelle
I mean, maybe, but, like, even after he said it, I was like, wait, what are you talking about?
Alexis
What did he say?
Janelle
He put his finger to his mouth. Like, sh. Like, it's our secret, but I have no idea what he was talking about.
Alexis
Dude, what is happening?
Jeffrey
That is pretty romantic, though.
Brooke
But anytime a man puts his finger to his. I don't like lips. It's creepy.
Janelle
Anybody?
Brooke
Nobody should do that.
Jeffrey
So have you texted him since the date ended?
Janelle
Yeah, so we were, you know, we were. We had, like, a cute little back and forth before the day. You know, we'd, like, send each other memes or whatever. So, like, I did that, but no, I have not gotten any response.
Jeffrey
Okay, something's up. We're gonna come back.
Alexis
Not the meme exchange rate.
Jeffrey
That's not okay. We're gonna call plenty of Fisher, and we're gonna see what he has to say when we come back. And get you your second date update right after this.
Janelle
I don't like that.
Brooke
Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
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Second date update.
Jeffrey
It's the two words that every little boy is dying to hear from his unapproving father.
Brooke
It's actually true.
Jeffrey
Good job. Proud of you, son.
Brooke
Yeah, we're proud of you, Jeff.
Jeffrey
It's not exactly what a woman wants to have whispered into her ear at the end of a first page.
Brooke
I thought we were gonna go to Jeff, therapy session.
Jeffrey
We don't nearly enough time.
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Jeffrey
But it's what happened to our listener Angie after she hung out with a guy named Nicholas the other night. He gave her a hug and then softly said, good job.
Alexis
Girls are not happy about this. Yeah, well, she wasn't either, right?
Jeffrey
I don't think any woman would be happy about that. But we've got a lot of questions about the Good Job, about some of the other weird stuff that was happening during the day. Angie said she's willing to look past it if she can get another chance with him because he seemed like a great guy.
Brooke
You said that he was like a little reserved, a little nerdy. Like. Like those are some of the quirks that come with nerdy, you know?
Janelle
Yeah. I mean, that's the thing though. Like it's so hard to meet an actual nice, respectful guy. And I just feel like he was. And I'm assuming I messed up. You know what I mean?
Brooke
You think you messed up and that's
Janelle
why you usually it's the person who called in that messed up and like I said, maybe thought I was boring. I don't know.
Jeffrey
Yeah, probably was.
Alexis
You becoming self aware?
Jeffrey
No, no, no.
Brooke
We don't like that.
Jeffrey
Are you cool if Nicholas has an unappro father? Is that okay?
Janelle
Yeah, I think I can deal with that. Yeah.
Jeffrey
Okay.
Brooke
He may need you if that's the case. Good. It'll be something Jeffrey and he can bond over.
Jeffrey
Yes, I feel good about it. So let's call him. I'm gonna dial his number right now. Let's see if he picks up.
Nicholas
Hello?
Jeffrey
Hey, is this Nicholas?
Nicholas
This is Nick.
Jeffrey
Hey, man. Thanks for answering. You are on a radio show right now called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning.
Brooke
Welcome to the show. Nicholas, how are you, man?
Alexis
Good morning.
Nicholas
Why. Why am I on a radio show?
Brooke
Great question.
Jeffrey
Yeah, so. I don't know. Have you ever heard of something called a second date update before?
Nicholas
Yeah, I think so. I think so.
Brooke
Oh, you have? Okay, congrats.
Alexis
You almost know who we are.
Jeffrey
Now you get to be a part of one. So the way that it works is one of our listeners has reached out to us. Us hoping that we could get a hold of you. A girl named Angie.
Nicholas
Angie's trying to get a hold of me.
Alexis
Oh, yeah, something. You remember her?
Brooke
You guys went to Thai food the other night.
Jeffrey
She's hoping that she could maybe get another chance to hang out with you again.
Nicholas
Yeah, no, I. I don't. I don't think that's going to work out.
Brooke
Really?
Jeffrey
Okay.
Brooke
It sounded like such a good day.
Jeffrey
Well, yeah. Before you even go there, Nicholas, I'm just going to let you know, she said that she really liked you. You and that you two shared a good vibe.
Nicholas
Yeah, no, I thought Angie was nice.
Jeffrey
Yeah, she didn't mention that. Actually, Nicholas, she mentioned a few odd things that happened on the date, and she wasn't sure if maybe those were early signs that you weren't interested in
Brooke
her, which it actually turns out, could be true at this point. At first we thought she was nuts, but.
Nicholas
But, Well, I.
David
What?
Nicholas
What did she. What did she say?
Jeffrey
Well, like. Like we just mentioned there's like a delay in your responses a little bit during the normal conversation.
Alexis
Almost like you're intently thinking of what you're going to say.
Nicholas
A delay.
Alexis
Okay, that almost happened again.
Brooke
I. I think he doesn't notice that that is part of your conversation. That's fine.
Jeffrey
That's okay. And also, she said that you had to move to a quieter area. And I'm just going to let you know what the room thought when we heard everything. The room was wondering if maybe you had AI listening in on your conversation to help you respond to your date, because you were checking your phone a lot, too.
Alexis
Yeah.
Nicholas
So I don't know who the room is. Who's the. Who's the room?
Jeffrey
The show. The entire show.
Brooke
Mostly. It was mostly Alexis.
Nicholas
Oh, you people. Okay, yes.
Brooke
No, because when we talk to her, you know, we all give our ideas, like, oh, maybe it could be this, maybe it could be that.
Jeffrey
These are just theories.
Ashton
Yeah.
Jeffrey
So could you just be honest with us and tell us, did you do that? Were you using AI to assist you?
Nicholas
I was having some help on the date, but I wasn't using the AI.
Alexis
Some help on the date?
Brooke
Help from your phone?
Nicholas
I was on the. The line with my ex and she was. She was on the line with us the whole time.
Jeffrey
Your ex.
Janelle
Ex?
David
Yeah.
Nicholas
Well, I. I mean, sometimes I. I just need help, so she's kind of like a security blanket for me.
Alexis
She like guys.
Brooke
So wait, did you have, like, earbuds in and you were listening to your ex at the same time you were listening to her?
Nicholas
No, no, I. She was just on mute, like she couldn't say anything. She wasn't coaching me. I just wanted her to hear everything.
Alexis
So she's kind of taking notes and then later you will call her and she will go over the notes? Is that what I'm thinking?
Brooke
Your ex voice volunteers to listen to hours of your dates.
David
Yeah.
Jeffrey
What. What a kind woman.
Alexis
What A weird woman.
Nicholas
Well, it's part of our post breakup growth agreement.
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Jeffrey
Post breakup growth agreement?
Alexis
Wow. Are we at.
Nicholas
Yeah, we mutually agreed upon. And I listened to her dates, too, on occasion. It's just we help each other get through our. Our past breakup and move. Move into a new one. So it's healthy and.
Jeffrey
Oh, very healthy. Yeah. I mean, it's a very conscious uncoupling.
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Do you find she doesn't like your new dates?
Alexis
Oh, yeah.
Brooke
Oh, that is a good point. Because he said.
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Is it sabotage?
Nicholas
You know, she was not a fan of Angie.
Jeffrey
Okay, well, she wasn't. But how did you feel about her?
Nicholas
I was enjoying myself, but she mentioned that she seemed like a try hard, and then when I was thinking about it, I think that she might be kind of a try hard mean.
Brooke
Wait, don't you want people to try hard on a first date?
Janelle
Excuse me, how was I a try hard?
Brooke
That's coming in hard.
Alexis
Yeah.
Jeffrey
Yeah.
Brooke
Oh, my God.
Jeffrey
Nicholas, you might find this funny, but your ex girlfriend and Angie have a lot in common because she's actually been on the phone listening in on this conversation.
Nicholas
Okay, that's not fair.
David
I didn't.
Nicholas
I didn't know that. I didn't.
Brooke
Yeah, and Angie didn't know your ex was listening to her either.
Jeffrey
Judging. But say hi to Angie.
Nicholas
She was. Hi. Hi, Angie.
Jeffrey
There you go. Hi.
Janelle
I mean, you're saying this is a healthy thing, but you also said your ex is your security blanket, so it doesn't feel like you're ready to be dating other people.
Alexis
Yeah.
Nicholas
No. Well, in most relationships, people don't have the right closure, and then they hold on to the past, and so this is a way to move on to my future.
Janelle
Yeah, you're not moving on. You're literally still relying on your ex to make your decisions down to who you're dating.
Nicholas
Well, we spend a lot of time together, so she knows me really well, and she sees things from the opposite sex that I might not see.
Janelle
Then maybe you guys should be together still.
Alexis
That's what I was like.
Nicholas
No, it's not. It's not like that. We're not romantically involved whatsoever. It's just we have a year left in our post breakup growth agreement.
Brooke
Yeah, that's a long time.
Alexis
You're kind of each other's life coaches. Really?
Brooke
Can't you just recap the date with your ex instead of having her listen in the whole time?
Nicholas
Well, see, there's trigger words and things that she'll say like. Well, that's a red Flag that I don't typically see.
Alexis
Pick up.
Jeffrey
This does make sense now. Why he whispered good job at the very end of the date. He wasn't saying it to Angie. He was saying it to his ex girlfriend who was listening.
Janelle
That still doesn't make sense.
Nicholas
No, I was talking to Angie. I did whisper good job because I thought that we were going to get to go on another date because I enjoyed myself and I didn't want my ex to hear her.
Brooke
Oh, my God. When you end the call, Nicholas told
Janelle
her not to go out with me again. And you listen, you stop hearing me.
Brooke
I mean, here's the thing. I actually think Nicholas is over his ex. I think your ex, Nicholas is not over you. And I don't think you're seeing that correctly.
Nicholas
I mean, that's a possibility. And I. And I kind of agree with that. But we still have our. Our agreement. And I have.
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Janelle
Okay, did you get it notorized? What are we talking about here?
Brooke
And if all she could come up with is she's a try hard as the biggest red flag. Oh, man.
Alexis
That's not a red flag.
Brooke
That's a weak red flag.
Janelle
Yeah, and I didn't try that hard. I didn't even shave my legs for that day.
Brooke
Gross.
Alexis
And I love it.
Jeffrey
There must be some clause in your contract with her that lets you get out of it when you find an amazing new girl like Angie here. Because.
Janelle
Wait, I have a question. What if I had put out on the first date? Would she have been listening in? Oh, my God.
Brooke
Oh, my God.
Alexis
Does that count?
Nicholas
Our date wasn't supposed to go over an hour and a half. I know. We were already pushing it at an hour 40.
Alexis
Even if you wanted to.
Brooke
It's in the agreement.
Jeffrey
He was already breaking the rules a little bit. So the band aid starting to come
Alexis
off or he's like, hold on, let me ask my ex. Hey, can I sleep with this?
Jeffrey
Yeah. Angie, just real quick, first, are you still interested in meeting up with Nicholas again after what. You know?
Janelle
Are you insane?
Alexis
There's no way.
Jeffrey
Oh, I thought you were.
Alexis
Okay, Jeff, that would have been wild.
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Brooke
Yeah.
Alexis
Yeah, that's true.
Jeffrey
Angie doesn't want to extend the offer anymore. So, Nicholas, we're not obviously going to give you another date with Angie here.
Alexis
How funny if his girlfriend has been on the line this whole time, too.
Brooke
Yeah. Wait, is she.
Alexis
Is she on the third line?
Janelle
What's her name? Let's say hi. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
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So his ex was on the phone on mute listening to the entire date for an hour and 40 minutes, taking notes. And she said no.
Brooke
I mean that's shocking. I really thought that that was gonna work out. After we found that.
Alexis
I tried to call my ex over and over to listen and she's gonna answer. What's wrong with her? I don't get it, Jeff.
Jeffrey
I guess the fascinating thing to me is if she would have said yes.
Nicholas
Yes.
Jeffrey
Could you imagine that conversation where Nicholas is really excited and he calls you like, hey, great news. We get to go out again. My ex gave you the thumbs up. First one in six months. Congrats.
Alexis
She approves.
Brooke
It really did sound like Nicholas was over his ex and his ex just isn't over him.
Alexis
Yeah, like no girl's good enough for him or something.
Jeffrey
Yeah. Whatever it is, it is a messy situation.
Alexis
Did she give him away at the wedding?
Brooke
Wedding. She's still hoping that she is the one.
Alexis
Yeah, she'll be there regardless.
Jeffrey
We'll find out. But speaking of messy situations, our social media, YouTube, tick tock, Instagram, you could see all of our second dates on there. And those are messy for sure. Make sure to comment like subscribe at Brooke and Jeffrey. We appreciate all of our listeners and if you ever need help in your dating life, email the show. We'll call that person who's not calling you back.
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Release Date: May 16, 2026
This “Second Date Update Classics” episode of Brooke and Jeffrey presents two standout calls from their archives: “I’ve Dated My Date Before,” in which a woman is blindsided to find her blind date is actually her ex—and has to find out, yet again, why he ghosted her; and “Two Word Whisperer,” where an awkward two-word parting phrase leaves a listener confused and sparks a much stranger revelation.
Both segments overflow with the show’s trademark high-energy banter, playful roastings, and real talk about dating dilemmas, mismatched expectations, and cringe-inducing moments.
Timestamps: 03:27 – 19:30
Timestamps: 23:27 – 40:11
This episode showcases the chaos and absurdity of modern dating, from getting set up with your ex (and getting ghosted again) to discovering your date brought their ex as a silent, judgmental third-wheel. The key insights? Believe people when they tell you who they are, and beware the red flags—even if you have to laugh about it in the aftermath.
For more Second Date Updates, check out Brooke and Jeffrey wherever you get your podcasts!