Second Date Update Classics: No Fire In The Fireplace +Best Date Of My Life

Summary

Podcast Summary: Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update Classics

Episode Title: No Fire In The Fireplace + Best Date Of My Life

Date: May 30, 2026
Podcast: Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Hosted by: Brooke, Jeffrey, Alexis, Jose, and rotating contributors

Episode Overview

This episode features two classic “Second Date Updates”—audience-favorite segments where the hosts help listeners reconnect with dates who have “ghosted” them after what seemed like a promising outing. Each segment blends humor with relatable dating struggles, placing emphasis on vulnerability, miscommunication, and the hilarious unpredictability of modern romance. The main stories covered:

• No Fire in the Fireplace: Alice seeks another chance with Paul, a “safe and stable” date who suddenly stops calling her back. They discuss the shift from chasing “firecrackers” (exciting but unreliable partners) to seeking “fireplaces” (comfort and security).
• Best Date Of My Life: Chris declares he’s just had the “best date ever” with Kendra—a night featuring romantic gestures and a “Spider-Man kiss”—but is then ghosted, only to have the reason revealed in a comedic, unexpectedly dramatic way.

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Segment 1: No Fire In The Fireplace

[02:27–19:53]

Key Discussion Points & Insights

The Search for a "Fireplace" in Dating

• Alice’s New Approach: Inspired by a podcast, Alice ditches pursuit of “firecracker” dates and looks for her “fireplace”—a person who brings steadiness and warmth, not just excitement.
  • Quote – Alice (06:14): “Instead of looking for your firecracker, you should be looking for your fireplace.”
  • Brooke (06:17): “Like you’re supposed to go for the slow burn type of person.”
• Practical Application: Alice meets Paul, who ticks all the boxes for stability—even suggesting a dinner at 5:30 (because he goes to bed by 9:30). While the date isn’t exhilarating, it’s comfortable, and Alice is eager for a second meeting.

The Date Recap

• Date Details: Early dinner, cozy conversation, and Paul’s low-key sense of humor (“Want to see a card trick? …I don’t know any!” [09:26]).
  • Alice (09:09): “[Paul] fits the profile...he doesn’t necessarily knock my socks off, but he does tick off the boxes that I like.”
• No Romantic Sparks, but No Red Flags: The date ends with a pleasant hug, not a kiss, and Alice is satisfied with the experience.

The Ghosting Mystery

• Alice's Frustration: She’s left confused and a bit insulted when Paul (the supposed “boring” fireplace) ghosts her.
  • Alice (10:14): “I haven’t heard back or gotten a call back from this boring fireplace guy.”
  • Brooke (10:14): “You sound so insulted!”
• Hosts’ Take: Humorous skepticism about the “fireplace” idea, reminders that safe choices can still come with surprises.

Second Date Update Call: Talking To Paul

[12:51–19:53]

• Paul is shy, nervous, and admits he didn’t know how to interpret the date, referencing anxiety and even being intimidated by Alice’s ax-throwing suggestion.
  • Paul (15:10): “Going out into the woods and throwing axes…that seems dangerous…”
  • Jeffrey (17:01): “Alice likes you, right, Alice? You can even tell him yourself now.”
• Awkward Revelation: Paul confesses to collecting “antique gynecological chairs from the 1800s,” surprising and mildly unsettling Alice.
  • Paul (18:01): “I collect antique gynecological chairs.”
  • Alice (18:51): “That’s…that’s a little bit odd.”

Outcome

• Despite the bizarre hobby, Alice agrees to a second date—but requests photos of Paul’s collection first.
  • Alice (19:34): “I think that’s what I would need…a visual of the collection…”
  • Jeffrey (19:53): “Take some photos of your collection and text them over, and then we’ll send you guys out again.”

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Segment 2: Best Date Of My Life

[24:07–40:27]

Key Discussion Points & Insights

Chris’s “Best Date Ever”

• Initial Recap: Chris gushes to the hosts that his date with Kendra was “the date of a lifetime”—thanks to emotional vulnerability, flowers at dinner, and a sweet walk back to her place.
  • Chris (25:12): “I’ve been on a lot of dates…but this last girl, Kendra, it was like the date of a lifetime.”
• Cute Details:
  • Chris brings flowers, which Kendra shares with other diners after the server compliments them (27:06).
  • “Pinky holding” instead of hand-holding (Chris, 28:01).
  • The night’s highlight: Kendra’s apartment complex has a locked gate, and when Chris tries to climb over, his pants get stuck—leading to a spontaneous, upside-down “Spider-Man” kiss.
    • Chris (29:24): “I’m hanging upside down…she kissed me.”
    • Hosts erupt with jokes about the scene being both romantic and cartoonishly awkward.

Why Is Chris Ghosted?

• Kendra's Side: When contacted, Kendra admits it was “a really good date” and that the kiss felt like “a movie moment.”
  • Kendra (34:09): “I wouldn’t have kissed him at the end of it if it was a bad date.”
• The Real Problem—Age Lie Revealed: Kendra says Chris lied about his age, claiming to be 26 when he’s actually 42 (later, 46).
  • Kendra (35:28): “He said he was 26 and he’s like 42-ish.”
  • Chris (36:04, after being confronted): “You had a good time, I had a good time. Why does it matter what age anybody is?”
• Further Complication: Kendra admits she’s lied about her age too, listing herself as 29 when she’s 31.
  • Kendra (36:53): “I say that I’m 29, but I’m actually 31…”
  • Chris (37:04): “A lie is a lie whether it’s 20, 99, or 42.”

Hosts Mediate The Age Debate

• The group dives into the ethics of lying on dating apps—are small lies (a few years) equivalent to much larger ones (over a decade)?
  • Brooke (38:38): “I don’t think what she’s doing is right, but I can see her point. Like, you have a generation gap with somebody.”
  • Kendra: “If we would have met organically…it might have been different. But the lying is…just gonna bother me.” [39:45]
• Result: Kendra can’t get past the dishonesty, even as Chris (jokingly) escalates his real age to 46 for comic effect.
  • Chris (40:18): “I’m not actually 42. I’m 46!”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "Fireplace" vs. "Firecracker":
  • Alice (06:14): “Instead of looking for your firecracker, you should be looking for your fireplace.”
  • Jeffrey (11:47): “You’re looking for that feeling that’s going to make you feel like you’re at home.”
• Paul’s Unique Hobby:
  • Paul (18:01): “I collect antique gynecological chairs…from the 1800s.”
  • Brooke (18:17): “Yeah, but, like, they’re from the 1800s.”
• The “Spider-Man” Kiss:
  • Chris (29:49): “She kissed me.”
    Brooke (29:50): “Spider-Man kiss! Upside down.”
• Age Lie Confrontation:
  • Kendra (35:28): “He said he was 26 and he’s like 42-ish.”
  • Chris (37:04): “A lie is a lie whether it’s 20, 99, or 42.”
  • Kendra (39:45): “If we would have met organically…then I might have been able to forgive that he’s 42. But the lying is…just going to bother me.”

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Important Timestamps

• 02:27 – Introduction of “Second Date Update Classics”
• 03:15–10:48 – Alice’s “fireplace” dating strategy and first date recap with Paul
• 10:52–19:53 – Second Date Update call with Paul; antique chair revelation; outcome
• 24:07–30:06 – Chris describes his “best date of his life” with Kendra
• 33:02–40:27 – Second Date Update call with Kendra; upside-down kiss; age-lie fallout and result

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Episode Tone & Language

• Tone: Light, self-deprecating, comedic. Plenty of playful banter and teasing among co-hosts and guests.
• Language: Casual and conversational with a mix of earnestness (especially from the daters themselves) and humorous skepticism (from the hosts).

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Takeaways & Themes

• Dating can be hilariously unpredictable—even when you think you’re going for “safe” or “perfect.”
• Honesty matters: Both stories highlight how even “small” or “well-intentioned” lies can undermine a new relationship.
• Everyone is looking for a genuine connection… whether it comes in the form of stability, butterflies, or the most awkward Spider-Man kiss ever.

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Listen for:

• The running “fireplace” joke and gentle roasting of Alice’s pursuit of safety
• Paul’s bizarre but oddly endearing revelation about his antique medical chair collection
• Play-by-play comedic analysis of an upside-down, fence-straddling kiss
• The surprisingly relatable debate about lying on dating apps

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For more episodes and full shows:

• Brooke and Jeffrey on iHeartRadio
• Apple Podcasts
• Spotify

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If you like cringe-worthy, laugh-out-loud dating tales with a dose of earnestness and unexpected twists, this episode delivers—firecracker moments and stable “fireplaces” alike.

Transcript

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[Jeffrey]

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[Brooke]

Here we are together on a Saturday. Doesn't it feel good Saturday mornings? Yep, that's right. Thank you for being here. The Brooke and Jeffrey official second Day Update podcast. And thanks for subscribing. It means a lot to us. We do have two back to back classics. Those might be ones that you've previously heard. Okay, that's what the classic means. But let's read some comments before we get to it. Yes.

[Alexis]

I mean, I love seeing what people do while they're listening to me. Okay, we got Hunter saying y' all are the only reason why I do my weekly cleaning in the morning. And Aleyah is saying you guys are the only reason why I don't stop running on my morning run.

[Brooke]

Oh, my gosh.

[Jeffrey]

Never stop.

[Brooke]

Good for you.

[Alexis]

And then we got the people sleeping again.

[Brooke]

Guys, we put everybody asleep. I hope she doesn't fall asleep on her run.

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

Be careful.

[Brooke]

Okay, that's gonna hurt. All right, your back to back classic starts right now.

[Jeffrey]

You know when you have one of those breakthrough moments where you hear something and realize, oh, my God, I've been doing this wrong my entire life.

[Alice]

Oh, okay.

[Jeffrey]

Like when you find out the little drawer below your oven isn't for storing pans. That's for keeping food warm.

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

Yeah, it's a food warmer.

[Jeffrey]

Did you know that?

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

Yeah, I do. And I still keep my pans in there.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, it's just too convenient. Or when Alexis realized the turn signals on her car aren't just lights to press when a fun song comes on the radio.

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

Oh, that's not a dancer.

[Brooke]

But they click to the beat. Yeah, they do. Yes.

[Jeffrey]

Well, one of our listeners realized she's been approaching dating apps the wrong way for years. But one piece of advice completely shifted her thinking and helped her find the perfect guy. Now he's not calling her back, but that's not here or there. The advice might actually help you, though, if you hear it in your second date update right after this.

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[Jeffrey]

Alexis, if you could describe not the perfect guy for you, but the feeling that you get when you're around that guy.

[Brooke]

That's so cute.

[Jeffrey]

Close your eyes and tell us the three words that he makes you feel.

[Alexis]

Feeling a little bit roasted. Like, I want him to be mean to me a little bit. You know, like I feel a little belittled of that's like a hard mouse

[Brooke]

thing that comes to your mind.

[Alexis]

That's a wrong answer.

[Jeffrey]

No, it's whatever you want to feel belittled as one full of food.

[Alexis]

I hope I get to go. Oh, drunk, a little tipsy.

[Brooke]

Oh, my God. I don't know if I've ever met anyone as scared of emotions as you. Are seriously terrified.

[Kendra]

You said imagine.

[Alexis]

This is what I'm imagining.

[Jeffrey]

Everybody's perfect guy looks a little bit different.

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

It's like Michael B. Jordan making fun of.

[Brooke]

Sometimes you see two guys cuz you just have double vision.

[Jeffrey]

I bring it up cuz one of our listeners says she figured out how she wants to feel when she meets her perfect guy.

[Brooke]

That's sweet.

[Jeffrey]

And maybe it even happened to her this last date. I mean, he's not calling her back, but that doesn't matter. She felt that certain way.

[Alexis]

That could feel good though, like just

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

a little bit of not being ignored.

[Jeffrey]

If it's one day, it's hot. Well, let's talk to Alice and hear about it. Alice, how you doing?

[Alice]

I'm good. And you guys? How are you?

[Brooke]

I don't know. I'm worried about Alexis, but I think the rest of us are fine.

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

Would you like us to roast you? Because we will.

[Alexis]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

I bring it up because in your email you said you felt the way that you wanted to feel when you met up with this guy. What does that mean?

[Alice]

Well, the deal is that I've just been meeting the wrong guys. My discernment hasn't been the best because I usually go for guys that wind up being wrong for me.

[Brooke]

Okay, so you're taking a different approach, looking for a different feeling?

[Alice]

Yes. Yeah, so I heard this podcast by this lady and she said instead of looking for your firecracker, you should be looking for your fireplace.

[Brooke]

Oh, that's good. I like that. I've heard this.

[Alexis]

Like you're supposed to go for the slow burn type of person.

[Brooke]

That's absolutely okay.

[Jeffrey]

What does that mean?

[Alice]

Okay, so like firecrackers, like for me, like I get butterflies and knots in my stomach. Like I get like an adrenaline rush.

[Brooke]

It's so fun.

[Alice]

It's scary, but it's like a ride I want to go on, but then the ride crashes.

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Alice]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

Okay.

[Brooke]

It's a dangerous ride.

[Alice]

It's a dangerous ride. You know, now a fireplace is actually more. It's welcoming, it's warm. You look forward to that comfort.

[Brooke]

You're not scared, right?

[Alice]

You're not scared. It's not all the bells and whistles.

[Jeffrey]

So basically you're not supposed to be looking for the exciting person anymore. You're supposed to look for the safe person.

[Alice]

Right. I need to be swiping right on the fireplaces.

[Brooke]

All right, so is this guy that you went out with the fireplace.

[Alice]

He fits the profile where he doesn't necessarily knock my socks off, but. But he does tick off the boxes that I like and that's what I

[Jeffrey]

found in her doesn't knock your socks off. And maybe he would mend your socks if there ever was a whore.

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

Yeah, like untie your shoes, warm them,

[Brooke]

because he's a fireplace.

[Jeffrey]

So what? What's his name?

[Alice]

His name is Paul.

[Brooke]

Okay.

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

He's got a fireplace name.

[Jeffrey]

What did you and Paul decide to do? What did you in this fireplace go?

[Alice]

Okay, so what we decided to do was to go out to dinner at 5:30.

[Brooke]

At 5:30. Was that his idea or were you just really pushing this old person Persona?

[Alice]

Well, no, actually, he said he had to be home to be in bed by 9:30 so that he could go to work.

[Brooke]

Oh, goodness.

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

Oh, wow.

[Jeffrey]

Okay.

[Brooke]

Even when I was dating, I wouldn't go to bed at 9:30.

[Alexis]

You know, it takes one night to stay up late.

[Brooke]

Come on, Alexis.

[Jeffrey]

Brooke's attracted to those firecrackers. That's why.

[Alice]

That's true.

[Kendra]

Right.

[Brooke]

Okay, so you were excited about this? Cause this is still like fulfilling what your thought is of him.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah. How did dinner go?

[Alice]

Dinner went really well. I mean, he told me he likes to cook, he likes to bake, and when he said that to me, it's like that gave me some really nice, like, low key fireplace vibes, which I really like.

[Brooke]

Yes. So did you tell him this? Because you've brought it up so many times.

[Jeffrey]

Like, did you use the term firecracker and fireplace with him?

[Brooke]

That's what I mean.

[Alice]

Honestly, I didn't want to bring up those terms because I just wanted him to be himself and not think that he had to be somebody else.

[Brooke]

Okay, that's good.

[Jeffrey]

It's probably not going to go too well if you keep referring to him as the safe fireplace.

[Brooke]

I mean, every guy wants to think of themselves as a bad boy in some ways, right?

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

So, okay, he seems to be checking the boxes that you want.

[Alice]

Right. You know, he said he was looking for long term. You know, he's into health and nature. And that to me was perfect. I mean, I wasn't getting butterflies in my stomach.

[Brooke]

You know, I feel like that should still be happening.

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

Yeah, there should be a balance of both.

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

No, no, you don't want to have that.

[Alexis]

Okay.

[Jeffrey]

That's a firecracker.

[Brooke]

Okay, so I'm guessing like you guys didn't end the night with a kiss or anything?

[Alice]

Well, near the ending of the night, he tells me a joke and he says to me, did I want him to teach me a card trick? So I said, sure.

[Chris]

Okay.

[Brooke]

And then it's kind of cute.

[Alice]

He says. Oh, well, I don't know any.

[Brooke]

Oh, gotcha, Gotcha.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, yeah. Well, hopefully you didn't laugh too hard because then you're gonna get too. And that would be a turn on.

[Brooke]

Was that the only funny moment?

[Alice]

Is that why?

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

Okay, let's calm down.

[Brooke]

It's just so specific.

[Jeffrey]

What, was there, like, any, like, hug or.

[Alice]

Well, I'll say we did a nice little hug. I mean, I thought it was. I thought it was a good date. It wasn't over the top type of thing.

[Brooke]

That's what you want, though.

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

It wasn't like a bad experience or one big negative thing.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, so what's happened since the date?

[Alice]

Oh, this is the thing now. I haven't heard back or gotten a call back from this boring fireplace guy.

[Brooke]

You sound so insulted. So are you just more mad that he's not calling you back or do you really want to see him again?

[Alice]

I really would like to see him again, but I'm like, how could you not call me back?

[Brooke]

Right?

[Alice]

Yeah, like, what could you possibly have going on outside of what you told me?

[Brooke]

Wow.

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

Okay. Like, I have a cat.

[Jeffrey]

Maybe we should dial down some of this language when we actually get him on the phone. But we're gonna call him. We'll try and stoke that fire back up and not too brightly when we do your second date update right after this. Okay, hold on.

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[Jeffrey]

I got the strangest text message from the academy of radio broadcasters.

[Brooke]

Oh, wow.

[Jeffrey]

Saying we just hit a new radio record for saying the word fireplace in a single segment over 50, 15,000 times.

[Brooke]

Hey, you know what? We know what we're looking for, Jeff.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, and I'm only gonna say it once more because our listener Alice, used that term as a simple analogy for what she's looking for in her romantic partner.

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

She learned she needs to stop chasing firecrackers and start looking for her fireplace.

[Brooke]

And whatever you do, don't chase waterfalls either. We'll just put it in there.

[Jeffrey]

We don't need any more analogies thrown in. Basically, it's, stop looking for the exciting guy who gives you butterflies. Start looking for the safe option.

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

Yeah, yeah, settle. Kind of.

[Brooke]

Not really.

[Alexis]

I mean, it's just like different things.

[Brooke]

Yeah. Just don't look for the stuff that's going to fizzle out really quick.

[Alexis]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

You're looking for that feeling that's going to make you feel like you're at home.

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

And now that she went down that road, the fireplace is leaving her on red.

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

Yeah, yeah, I said fireplace again.

[Jeffrey]

I'm not going to say it anymore.

[Brooke]

We can't break our own record, Jeff.

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

It's like our world. Wood soggy. It just won't light, you know?

[Paul]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

So, Alice, how you feeling? Before we call him here, I'm feeling pretty good.

[Alice]

I'm just hoping to figure out why I haven't heard back from Paul.

[Brooke]

I like that you still have hope,

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

but not too much.

[Brooke]

I mean, it's like you're like shifting everything to try to find the thing that you're supposed to have. And even that is a struggle right now. But I don't think it will be at the end of this.

[Alice]

I hope so.

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

Yeah, we all do.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, it's interesting we're going to be calling a boring guy for a radio segment here. Not the best rating strategy on our part, but you know what? Let's dial him up anyway.

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

Stay tuned. We got a crackling fireplace on the line.

[Jeffrey]

Hopefully we can squeeze a little bit of excitement out of this, but here we go.

[Paul]

Hello.

[Jeffrey]

Hi, we're looking to speak with Paul.

[Paul]

This is Paul.

[Brooke]

I'm sorry. Not that we wanted you to come hot out of the gate or anything.

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

Good morning, my friend.

[Jeffrey]

First of all, thank you so much for answering this number that I'm sure you didn't recognize.

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

We're strangers. We know.

[Jeffrey]

We're a radio station called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning.

[Paul]

Okay.

[Brooke]

Okay, nice.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, let's keep this going because what we're doing here is called a Second date Update. And we're trying to help out one of our listeners that you actually went out to dinner with a few nights ago and she had a really nice time with you. Her name is Alice?

[Paul]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

Good old Alice, huh?

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, it's pretty exciting. Well, that's it. We'd like to open it up to you for a second and tell us what you thought about the date. What you thought about Alice.

[Paul]

What. What is this for?

[Jeffrey]

Well, it's a second aid update. Basically, Alice has reached out to us because she told us a little bit about your night together. She had a great time.

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

How was it for you?

[Paul]

I'm. I'm just not really sure how the date went, I guess. I don't. I don't know. I don't get. I don't get a lot of matches. I was pretty nervous. Spent a long time doing my hair and.

[Brooke]

Doing your hair Nice be hair breaking

[Jeffrey]

if it makes you feel better. She said that she was nervous to meet up with you, too.

[Paul]

Yeah, I told her a Joke at one point and it kind of failed, but kind of worked at the same time. I'm not really sure.

[Brooke]

What other joke did you tell her?

[Jeffrey]

Are you talking about the magic trick joke?

[Paul]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

Okay.

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

That was hilarious.

[Brooke]

Yeah, she told us that.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah. You're funny.

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

Yeah, it was good.

[Paul]

Okay,

[Jeffrey]

That's a compliment. Feel good about that. Why?

[Brooke]

Why would you not be calling her back? And why wouldn't you be excited right now? Like we're telling you it was a good date.

[Paul]

I don't know. I just didn't know how to feel about it. And then we did talk about going out again, but she. She was talking about ax throwing.

[Kendra]

Yeah.

[Paul]

And.

[Chris]

Right.

[Paul]

I don't know about that. Going out into the woods and throwing axes. That seems dangerous.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, I understand.

[Paul]

You.

[Jeffrey]

You haven't dated in a while.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

Like, you might. You might not know this, but they actually have places set up.

[Alice]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

Where you're supposed to go indoors in the city and throw axes at the wall at, like, targets.

[Alexis]

You don't even have to date to know that.

[Paul]

I never heard of that. I thought it was kick. Sounded kind of like a liability.

[Brooke]

You're gonna be fine, man. You're gonna be fine. This is gonna be a relief to her. So you just weren't calling her back because you didn't think she liked you.

[Alexis]

You're just confused and you were scared of ax throwing.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah.

[Paul]

Yeah, I guess that's kind of the gist.

[Jeffrey]

Okay. You know who's probably really, really relieved to hear you say all those things is Alice, who is on the other line right now wanting to talk to you.

[Alice]

Hi, Paul. How are you?

[Paul]

Hi. I'm good.

[Alexis]

Paul, that was so cute.

[Jeffrey]

You could hear the smile on his face right now.

[Alice]

It's good to hear your voice, Paul. I was wondering why I hadn't heard back from you.

[Paul]

I'm sorry. I guess I was just kind of unsure. I didn't really know if you wanted to go out again or if it went well.

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

Demeanor.

[Jeffrey]

Well, I think the axe throwing idea really scared him off there, Alice. Like that. You're not married to that.

[Chris]

As the next day, you know, like we could.

[Alice]

There was always other activities that we could do.

[Paul]

Would be good. I tend to be a bleeder.

[Brooke]

A bleeder.

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

Wait a minute.

[Paul]

Okay.

[Jeffrey]

It must feel good. Like you understand, like Alice. Alice likes you. Right, Alice? You can even tell him yourself. Now we don't have to be your voice, Paul.

[Alice]

I really had a great time with you when we had dinner. I think the conversation was pretty good. I don't Know if maybe you might have been a little anxious, but, I mean, if you were, I couldn't tell.

[Brooke]

Your confidence has to be through the roof right now. Right, Paul?

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Paul]

Good.

[Kendra]

All right, good.

[Jeffrey]

Okay.

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

Listen to that confidence happening, man.

[Brooke]

There it is.

[Jeffrey]

That's why I tried to tee him

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

up for that, and he knocked it down.

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All right.

[Jeffrey]

I mean, I think that you guys should give it one more shot.

[Brooke]

We all think that.

[Jeffrey]

Choose, like a safe activity for you two to do. No sharp objects anywhere around.

[Brooke]

Bowling.

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

Bowling.

[Paul]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We could do that. Or you could come see my collection.

[Brooke]

Collection?

[Jeffrey]

What collection? Collection.

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

Huh? What do you collect?

[Paul]

Oh, I collect antique gynecological chairs.

[Brooke]

What?

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

I don't know.

[Kendra]

What

[Brooke]

did you say? Gynecological?

[Alexis]

Wake with the stirrup feet.

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

I heard gynecological. Like a dinosaur chair.

[Brooke]

Like a OBGYN chair.

[Paul]

Yeah, but, like, they're from the 1800s.

[Chris]

Whoa, whoa.

[Jeffrey]

You collect those?

[Paul]

Yeah, they're really kind of fascinating, actually. You know why?

[Brooke]

Why are they fascinating, Paul?

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

The leg things?

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Paul]

I mean, that period is kind of, you know, really interesting.

[Brooke]

I'm gonna say, not a great period in women's health.

[Jeffrey]

Well, it was the experimental phase. They're trying to figure out what's going on down there. They did not know.

[Brooke]

That's a little. How are you feeling about that?

[Alice]

That's. That's a little bit odd.

[Jeffrey]

Well, I think maybe the question we need to ask is, do you feel like you have butterflies right now, Alice?

[Brooke]

Oh,

[Alice]

no.

[Jeffrey]

Well, that's a good sign for you. That's the opposite of what you're looking for. So we would love to send you two out on another date.

[Brooke]

Wow.

[Jeffrey]

Paul will pay for this date if you're willing to meet up with Alice.

[Paul]

Yeah, that sounds great.

[Jeffrey]

Okay. Yes, From Paul. Alice, you're still up for it? You don't have to go to his house. You don't have to see the collection.

[Brooke]

I'll say maybe you can see pictures of his collection first and then judge from there if there's a third date. Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

From your comfort zone.

[Alice]

Yes. I think that's what I would need to have a visual of the collection of the gynecological chair.

[Brooke]

Let's not say that word, okay?

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

It's not like a massage chair.

[Jeffrey]

Take some photos of your collection and text them over, and then we'll send you guys out again on a date. Okay, I'll.

[Paul]

I'll send a link to my website. I'm kind of excited.

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[Jeffrey]

firecracker fireplace thing needs to come with an asterisk now, right? Because the quote, safe, quiet introvert also might have some secret firecracker tendencies.

[Brooke]

Are you saying might burn your house down?

[Alexis]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

Yeah, I think that that's what it is. Get that chimney inspected is what you need to do.

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

I think it's more of a bonfire situation.

[Jeffrey]

Maybe it's not good. Well, we did get them a second date, though.

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

We found out some stuff.

[Brooke]

Okay. If she says it's bad, though, if she goes, we need to do a safety, safety check afterwards just to make sure she's okay.

[Jeffrey]

He's a history buff. He's not actually doing any examinations with that stuff. He's a collector of old goods.

[Brooke]

You're the one that walks down a dark alley at 2am and says nothing bad's gonna happen.

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

Ladies, why are you running? I'm a collector of old goods.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, I want to Go to his house and see all the gynecological chairs. I bet they're cool myself in too. Whatever.

[Brooke]

You do that, Jeff.

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

Okay, maybe go check it out for her first.

[Jeffrey]

I will. That's the lengths I'm willing to go through for our listeners.

[Brooke]

You will put your foot up and stir up.

[Jeffrey]

I will keep that in mind when you email us asking for help with your love life. We'll call that person who won't call you back and go check out all of our second dates, wherever you get your podcast at. Brooke and Jeffrey.

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[Jeffrey]

The saying goes, love is in the eye of the beholder filter. Meaning what, Alexis?

[Alexis]

I don't know, maybe you have sunglasses on to make someone look better.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, yeah, I like that.

[Alexis]

Okay, sure.

[Jeffrey]

That's one way to take it. Another way to take it is that what works romantically for some people may totally not work for other people.

[Alexis]

Yeah, that was what I was saying.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, but with sunglasses on. Sure. But that was definitely the case in today's call. Cause the kiss that happened at the end of the night, depending on who you ask, is either the cutest, most spontaneous thing ever or the cringiest, most awkward interaction of all time.

[Brooke]

I can see. I like that. There's no middle ground either. That's what I appreciate.

[Jeffrey]

Not when you hear it. You can decide when you find out what happened in your second date update right after this.

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[Jeffrey]

Brooke, I want you to think about the best date that you've ever been on.

[Alice]

Aw, that's cute.

[Jeffrey]

I know it's probably not with your husband.

[Brooke]

No, it is with my husband, Jeffrey.

[Jeffrey]

Nobody here expected it would be, but what's the thing that happened that made you say this date tops them all?

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

That's a big question.

[Brooke]

Honestly, it's just the person I'm with.

[Jeffrey]

Are you talking about yourself again?

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

The fireworks? Or like the the chef made me a $700 snail.

[Jeffrey]

The three way kiss at the end.

[Brooke]

That's it. That's what it was with the waiter.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, yeah, that makes sense. Well, one of our listeners emailed the show saying his most recent date easily ranks number one all time.

[Brooke]

Easily.

[Jeffrey]

And I'm just assuming he's been on more than one. Otherwise that statement really doesn't say much. So let's talk to Chris about it. Chris, welcome to the show, man. How you doing?

[Chris]

Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call. I really appreciate it.

[Brooke]

Yeah, it sounds like you're putting a lot of pressure on this first date.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, you have been on more than one date in your life, right?

[Chris]

Yes. No, I've been on a lot of dates in the last few years, and honestly, none of them really hit at all. Like, I didn't feel like there was any connection. But this last girl, Kendra, it was like the date of a lifetime.

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

Okay, are you saying that because of Kendra or because of the activity in the environment?

[Chris]

I think it was a combination of the entire. The entire night was kind of great. You'll see. You'll see.

[Brooke]

By the end, okay, our daily lives will look paltry in comparison.

[Chris]

Oh, yeah, yeah, I agree.

[Jeffrey]

Let's get right into it. Tell us, where'd you meet Kendra?

[Chris]

Okay, so I bought her flowers. We went to a restaurant.

[Jeffrey]

Question that I asked her. You're really eager to tell us, and I appreciate that, but, hey, they could

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

have been in the flower shop, maybe.

[Brooke]

So excited about this story.

[Jeffrey]

Where did you meet her?

[Chris]

Oh, we. We met online there.

[Brooke]

You.

[Jeffrey]

Okay?

[Brooke]

I actually understand why that was a confusing question.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I see. And now, where did you two meet? At a restaurant. It sounds like we met at a restaurant.

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

Okay, I'm glad you let him.

[Brooke]

And he bought her flowers.

[Jeffrey]

Okay.

[Chris]

And I bought her flowers, which is an important part of the story, because she was so shocked by the guy, because no guys buy flowers anymore. That's what she said. At me, at least.

[Brooke]

Oh, no guys buy flowers.

[Jeffrey]

Well, they are pretty expensive.

[Alexis]

They're also just kind of annoying to have at dinner.

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

Alex, I've got in trouble. Like, I don't think girls like flowers that much anymore.

[Alexis]

No, they like them just after.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, anyways, that is a good point, Alexis. I mean, what did Kendra do with the flowers after you gave them to her?

[Chris]

Well, that was part of the story. The server even complimented the flowers. Oh, when the server complimented the flowers, she offered to let the server put flowers on everyone's tables.

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

That's so nice.

[Jeffrey]

So she accepted your gift and immediately gave it away to the restaurant.

[Alice]

Okay.

[Chris]

Which, when you say it like that, it doesn't sound so good, but it was really nice to watch that happen. And I see other people happy with these flowers. It was a really nice moment.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

You bought everyone flowers?

[Alexis]

Well, everyone in the restaurant. The one table that doesn't get one.

[Jeffrey]

It is a really good move, though. I feel like it looks good in her eyes. And I assume it must have led to some good conversation, to some good moments.

[Chris]

It really did. In fact, I'd say it got a little cheesy and so good that I got myself a little vulnerable. If you Know what I mean?

[Jeffrey]

Oh, the pants came off that quickly?

[Alexis]

Say it like that.

[Brooke]

Did you say I cried? Is that what you just said?

[Chris]

I didn't cry, but I sort of. As a 26 year old, I gave up on meeting anybody.

[Brooke]

At this point, 26 isn't that old.

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

Just so you know.

[Chris]

She's 29 and she said she was going through similar stuff. So it was like we kind of hit on the same subject.

[Brooke]

That's really cute.

[Jeffrey]

What happened at the end of the night?

[Chris]

We went back to her place. We walked to her place. She doesn't live that far from the restaurant, so it was a really nice romantic walk.

[Alexis]

Did you hold hands?

[Chris]

We held pinkies.

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

That's even better.

[Chris]

I don't know.

[Jeffrey]

That's the friend finger. Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

Wait, you have a friend finger?

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, that's the one. You do pinky promises with your friends?

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

Oh, I thought you were going somewhere.

[Brooke]

I thought he was too.

[Jeffrey]

Anyway, did you. After the pinky holding, did you get a kiss?

[Chris]

So it was kind of a funny situation. She lives in a community that has a wall around it and you have to. It's not easy to get into.

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

You know, she's in a biodome or

[Jeffrey]

like a prison of some sort.

[Brooke]

I think it's just apartment with a gate is what he means. Which are pretty common.

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

Okay, yeah, I like bioprison.

[Jeffrey]

I'm not familiar, but okay, I get it. There's a gate.

[Chris]

So there's a gate and she didn't have her key.

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

So you're locked out.

[Jeffrey]

Or maybe it's a move that she's pulling where she's like, oh, I can't find my keys. Oh, she wants.

[Alexis]

What would happen?

[Brooke]

Do you need me to strip search myself?

[Jeffrey]

I wasn't going there. Maybe I was more like, maybe we should go back to your place instead. Maybe that's what she.

[Alexis]

I don't think she need to pull a moved ass to go back to a guy's house for her own plane.

[Brooke]

Yeah, I know. I'm standing naked in front of the gate.

[Jeffrey]

That's how Brooks dates go. So what happened, Chris?

[Chris]

So I know this sounds ridiculous, but. So I decided to jump the gate.

[Brooke]

Oh, so you can open it on the other side.

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

She have like a window. Oh, you could open the gate?

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chris]

I had to climb it and pull myself up over it. And then as I'm pulling myself up over it, I get stuck, My pants get stuck on it. I'm hanging upside down.

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

Classic. Those spiky fences, right?

[Jeffrey]

Kind of naked in front of sexy yes, Brooke, I know.

[Brooke]

Embarrassing. What did she do?

[Chris]

Well, she kissed me.

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What?

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

Spider man kiss. Upside down.

[Jeffrey]

An upside down stuck spider man.

[Brooke]

She kissed you?

[Chris]

I was just as shocked as you were.

[Brooke]

I guess she likes her men immobile, vulnerable.

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

Now I can get him.

[Brooke]

Yeah, I can pounce.

[Jeffrey]

Did you like it? Like, was that awkward or was it romantic?

[Chris]

Oh, no, it was a nice. It's a very nice romantic moment. But it's been a couple of days since that happened. We texted for a couple of days and then since then she hasn't gotten back to me.

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

Maybe you're a bad upside down kisser.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, it can be confusing because usually you put your tongue this way, but when you're upside down, it needs to go that way.

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

I practice this.

[Brooke]

She found another man suspended on a fence.

[Jeffrey]

And maybe that's her thing.

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

Some guy working on the phone lines.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, well, we're going to. We're going to come back, we'll call Kendra for you and try to get you your next most romantic date ever. When we get you maybe a right

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

side up kiss, let's not get crazy.

[Jeffrey]

We'll do it with your second date update. Next.

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[Jeffrey]

If you're just joining us, we've basically got the real life wife, Peter Parker on the phone, who received the rare coveted upside down kiss during his date with Kendra.

[Brooke]

You didn't see the sequel where.

[Alexis]

Where Spider man got his, like, pants a little hot? Okay, that's okay.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, we're still in the Toby Maguire universe.

[Brooke]

Yeah, Toby would totally get his pants stuck on a fence.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, absolutely. It happened after Chris fell while. While scaling the security gate outside of Kendra's apartment. As you do on a lot of

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

dates are hard to climb, though.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, but his pants got caught when he fell. And it was there in that embarrassing moment when animal instinct took over and Kendra walked right up to him and smooched him in the face.

[Brooke]

Which is such a good sign because that really could have been an ick moment for her.

[Alexis]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

You know, and obviously she thought it

[Jeffrey]

was adorable, so no wonder Chris is describing it as his best date ever. But weird that she's not texting him back since she's the one who initiated that moment.

[Brooke]

You know what?

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

We never asked Chris did she ever get back into her apartment she locked because maybe that's why she hasn't responded.

[Jeffrey]

That's a good point.

[Chris]

Yeah. Somebody came by a few minutes later and let her in.

[Brooke]

Oh, okay. That's good, I guess.

[Alexis]

You even wait that long?

[Brooke]

I Didn't even think about just waiting till somebody else showed up.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, yeah, that would have been smart. We're going to call Kendra. We'll see if she picks up. Picks up.

[Brooke]

And, God, I hope this works out for you. I mean, there's so much pressure on this one, you know? It's like his best date he's ever been on.

[Jeffrey]

Well, I felt pretty relaxed until you said that. Now all of a sudden, I'm super stressed out for no reason.

[Brooke]

Don't screw it up, Jeff.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, God. Okay, here we go, then.

[Kendra]

Hello?

[Jeffrey]

Hey, is this Kendra?

[Kendra]

Who is this?

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

What'd she say?

[Brooke]

I think that's a yes. She said, who is this?

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

Oh, no, she said.

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Seriously?

[Brooke]

Yeah, no, she said, who is this?

[Jeffrey]

Sorry, Kendra.

[Brooke]

Yeah. Hi, Kendra.

[Jeffrey]

We're a radio show. We're called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning.

[Kendra]

How many. How many of you are there?

[Jeffrey]

Too many. Yes, I agree.

[Brooke]

It's a whole show, Kendra.

[Alice]

Okay.

[Brooke]

All right.

[Jeffrey]

So we're reaching out to you because one of our listeners has asked us to get a hold of you. A guy that went on a date with recently named Chris.

[Alice]

Oh, okay.

[Brooke]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jeffrey]

So this is all part of a segment we do called a Second Date Update where we're trying to figure out if there's a reason you have stopped texting him after the date.

[Kendra]

I mean, obviously.

[Brooke]

Yeah, obviously not to him.

[Jeffrey]

The reason should be obvious.

[Kendra]

No, no, no. Just, like, it's obvious that, yes, I have a reason.

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

Okay. We just want to know because we spoke to Chris and he told us about your date, and it sounded actually much better than we ever thought it could have been, given the circumstances.

[Brooke]

Honestly, I'd love to hear your side of the story.

[Kendra]

Yeah.

[Alice]

Okay. It was a good date.

[Kendra]

Like, it was a really good date, honestly.

[Brooke]

Oh, cute. Okay.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, that's good to hear.

[Kendra]

I mean, I wouldn't have kissed him at the end of it if it was a bad date.

[Brooke]

Oh, my.

[Jeffrey]

That's where you and Brooke differ, so

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

that's nice to hear, everybody. She's mad at you. You better watch out.

[Brooke]

No, but he told us about that first kiss. Like, that was crazy.

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

The upside down one?

[Kendra]

Yeah. I mean, when you have a movie moment, you have to, like, take it, right?

[Brooke]

Oh, you felt like it was that magical, too? Like it really was a movie moment?

[Kendra]

Well, yeah, it was a spider man kiss.

[Jeffrey]

Totally. Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

That's the first thing we jumped to as well.

[Jeffrey]

Well, yeah, if that's the case, then why, after your movie moment, aren't you calling Crispy back?

[Kendra]

Well, I mean, I Don't really know

[Alice]

what he told you besides that we kissed.

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

That was kind of the.

[Jeffrey]

I mean, that was the majority. We know that you guys went to a restaurant.

[Brooke]

He told us about the flowers, that he brought you flowers, and you guys passed him out among the other tables,

[Jeffrey]

immediately gave his gift away.

[Kendra]

Oh, yes. I. I didn't think he would mind.

[Brooke]

It was really sweet.

[Kendra]

Oh, okay.

[Alice]

Okay, okay.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kendra]

Here's the thing. Chris is great, but he lied to me.

[Brooke]

What?

[Kendra]

And, I mean, he lied about something pretty big and I.

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

Pretty big? Like what? Like his name or something?

[Brooke]

Dude.

[Kendra]

I mean, no, it's not his name. He said that he was 26 and he's like 42. Ish.

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

Oh, that's a big.

[Kendra]

Yeah.

[Chris]

Wait. Wait a second. Wait a second. You had a good time. I had a good time.

[Paul]

Time.

[Chris]

Why does it matter what age? Anybody?

[Jeffrey]

Okay, okay.

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Chris, that doesn't sound good.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, Kendra, you didn't know this, but Chris has been listening on the other line.

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

Maybe with a hearing aid.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah. Oh, my God.

[Chris]

What's that? Because I'm 42.

[Brooke]

Hold on. You are 42? Chris, you told us that you were 26.

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

Yeah, I'm kidding, bro.

[Alice]

But age doesn't matter.

[Chris]

It doesn't matter how old I am. Again, we had a good time.

[Alexis]

Lie about it.

[Alice]

Doesn't matter.

[Kendra]

Why did you lie?

[Chris]

That's only 13 years difference.

[Brooke]

Okay, that is wild.

[Jeffrey]

And Chris, if age isn't important, then why did you lie about it?

[Chris]

Because she wouldn't have gone out with me if I said I was 42. I had to tell her that.

[Brooke]

Of course, when I was in my 20s, I wouldn't date somebody in their 40s either.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, it happens in Hollywood all the time.

[Chris]

Men and women are older than their significant others.

[Jeffrey]

Actually normal. Super true. A lot of healthy relationships in Hollywood,

[Brooke]

and it's people still having the information to make that choice. Right. So she. You lied to her?

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

Kendra, what are your thoughts on this?

[Kendra]

I mean, here's the thing. Like, I'm not entirely truth about my age on the apps either.

[Brooke]

What?

[Jeffrey]

Wait.

[Kendra]

I say that I'm 29, but I'm actually 31. But that's not like.

[Chris]

Wait a second. Wait a second. You lie about your age online?

[Jeffrey]

That's disgusting.

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

Well, girls are alive.

[Brooke]

Okay?

[Jeffrey]

You don't really have a leg to

[Brooke]

stand on when you're being sarcastic. You're being sarcastic, right?

[Chris]

No, it's the same. A lie is a lie whether it's 2099 or 42.

[Brooke]

Okay, so you're not upset that she lied about her age because you lied about yours?

[Chris]

I'm upset that she's upset about me lying about my age if she lies about hers.

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

Okay, Somehow I follow that.

[Jeffrey]

You think no matter what it is, the lies should cancel out and you should be uneven playing field.

[Chris]

Yeah, lies should cancel out. A lie. Okay.

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

Okay.

[Brooke]

Kind of messed up that you lied.

[Kendra]

No, here's my thing. It's like. Like when people are, like, looking for people who they want to date and they go to my age bracket, they're looking for people between 30 and 40, and I don't want the people. Like, I'd rather date someone who's a little bit younger.

[Brooke]

So you aged out of the age bracket you're interested in is the problem.

[Kendra]

Yes, but not by 16 years.

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

Can I ask?

[Kendra]

It's 16. He doesn't know how to do math. It's literally 16.

[Jeffrey]

But he's doing the same exact thing that you're doing. He's lying about his age to. To open up his options the same

[Kendra]

way that you are, but he's opening it too far.

[Brooke]

Yeah, okay. I mean, I. I don't think what she's doing is right, but I can see her point. Like you have a generation gap between somebody. Well, I guess you're 31 now, so now you're only 11 years apart in age. So now it's not as. Yeah.

[Chris]

Billions of years old. What's the difference between 13 years?

[Brooke]

I can't tell whose side I'm on here.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, and technically the age gap is just 11 years now.

[Chris]

Now.

[Brooke]

Yeah, that's what I just said, but

[Jeffrey]

I wasn't listening to you, Brooke, cuz you're older. I have my cut off at age 35, so. So, Alexis, if you have anything to say, feel free to jump in.

[Alexis]

I'm so confused.

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

Okay, my question is, when you kissed him, did you know he was 40 by then?

[Kendra]

I had suspicions. I mean, I Knew he wasn't 26,

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

but that means you guys got along so well, even you were bending your rules a little and.

[Chris]

Right, exactly.

[Kendra]

I wasn't bending my rules. Both 11 years.

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

No, you're right. You are right. But I'm just saying at some point, you came to a conclusion almost. And you still.

[Brooke]

I think Jose's onto something. You both. Can you get over this? Is that. That's really the question?

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

Was that the only problem? Because if you guys just get along

[Brooke]

great, you know, just a big lie about who you are, Is that it?

[Jeffrey]

Well, there is the same. That age is just A number. It shouldn't matter if the connection is real. And if that connection is true, we'd like to offer to send you two out on another day. And we would pay for.

[Chris]

Oh, that would be nice. I like when people pay for my dates. I do it. I'm down.

[Brooke]

Cheap old man. I see.

[Jeffrey]

Waiting for that senior discount. But Kendra, we will pay for it. It's up to you.

[Kendra]

Look, if we would have met organically and had the connection we had, then I might have been able to forgive that he's 42. But the lying is. It's just going to bother me.

[Jeffrey]

But your lies don't bother.

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

That's right.

[Kendra]

No, my lie is fine, okay? There's different lies.

[Jeffrey]

You know, Chris, I'm sorry, man.

[Brooke]

Oh, that's too bad.

[Jeffrey]

And it was the best date of his entire life.

[Chris]

Well, if that's it, guys, I'm gonna let her know the truth. That I'm not actually 42. I'm 46.

[Kendra]

What?

[Brooke]

No.

[Alexis]

What a 20 year lie.

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

No, you're not.

[Brooke]

Oh my God.

[Kendra]

Is that why you wore the baseball hat backwards on our date? You're literally a dad.

[Alexis]

That's why you couldn't get over the fence.

[Jeffrey]

No wonder he knows who Toby Maguire is. Duh.

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[Jeffrey]

Man, I know this happens all the time on the dating apps now where people lie about their age, but I don't know if I'm ever going to understand the thinking behind it. Because at some point the truth about your real age is going to come out. Out.

[Brooke]

Yeah, I mean, maybe it's like one of those things where you feel like you'll just be so connected by then it won't matter. Yeah, like that's what you hope, right? I don't think that that's ever true. A lie always matters.

[Jeffrey]

But yeah, because eventually you're gonna have to explain why your high school graduation photo has a watermark that says Sears portrait studio 1986. And then everyone's gonna be confused.

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

I thought it was bold that he tried to play out that he was younger than her. Yeah, just like, hey, I'm 32.

[Alice]

Two.

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

Or like I'm a few years older, he's three years younger than her.

[Jeffrey]

He's like over compensated.

[Brooke]

20 years different. All I need to know is what filter he's using on his photos. I mean, I don't need it for personal use, I swear. It's just a curiosity.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, so just to be clear, we're not saying don't lie, we're just saying lie smarter. Yes.

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

Okay.

[Jeffrey]

Can we agree to do that, Jeff?

[Brooke]

We're saying don't lie.

[Jeffrey]

Well, make it believable.

[Alexis]

Okay.

[Jeffrey]

Okay.

[Co-host (possibly Jose)]

Yeah.

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