Second Date Update Classics: Ride of Shame + Incriminating News at 11

Summary

Podcast Summary: Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update Classics

Episode Title: Ride of Shame + Incriminating News at 11
Air Date: March 21, 2026
Host: Brooke & Jeffrey (with Alexis, Jackie & others)
Type: “Second Date Update” – Calling people who’ve ghosted after first dates, asking why, and pushing for another shot.

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Episode Overview

This episode features two high-entertainment, classic “Second Date Update” segments. In the first, a woman’s mother unexpectedly becomes part of her post-one-night-stand “walk of shame.” In the second, a date goes off the rails after an impromptu—and exaggerated—local news interview. As always, the team brings big energy, brutal honesty, and playful banter while helping listeners survive (and laugh at) the chaos of modern dating.

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Segment 1: The Ride of Shame

Main Characters: Jackie (Listener), Miguel (Date), Jackie’s Mom
Starts: [03:51]

Key Discussion Points & Flow

• Meeting Setup:

  • Jackie meets Miguel on Tinder; after lots of communication, she’s out with her girlfriends who urge her to invite Miguel over to join them at a club.
    • “My homegirl was like, you just send him this snap, you look so cute and like invite him out. I'm like, oh my God. Right?” (Jackie, [06:43])

• First Date Night:

  • Miguel joins the ladies at a bar/club, proving he’s a great dancer.
  • Chemistry is strong, and after heavy flirting and “making out in between bites” of hot dogs ([08:53]), they head back to his place.
  • Jackie says it’s not something she’d usually do but emphasizes having a “good time."

• Aftermath:

  • Jackie is interested in more, but Miguel’s texts are suddenly cold and polite, not flirty.

• Call to Miguel (Second Date Update Call):

  • Miguel remembers the night fondly—until the next morning.
  • Jackie says she had to dip quickly and called for a ride.
  • It turns out the ride was her mom, straight from church.
    • “About five minutes later, there’s a knock at the door, and I open up—and it’s her mom.” (Miguel, [15:40])
  • Her mom then grills Miguel at his own door: “Did you have fun last night? How many partners have you been with?” ([16:08])
  • Miguel says he was considering seeing Jackie again, but meeting her mother like that was “really off-putting” ([19:03]).

• Jackie’s Explanation:

  • Her mom was nearby, and picking up Jackie after nights out is not unusual.
    • “My mom usually picks me up from my one night stands.” (Jackie, [18:04])
  • Jackie apologizes, saying she didn't expect her mom to interrogate Miguel.
  • To sweeten the deal, she jokes that her mom is “hot,” implying Miguel should be excited about those genes ([20:02]).

Notable Quotes & Moments

• “When the girls feel like you’re safe enough to be on your own…they’re like, okay, she’s got it.” (Jeffrey, [08:11])
• “My mom usually picks me up from my one night stands.” (Jackie, [18:04])
• “Isn’t my mom really hot? Like, that’s how I’m going to look in like the next 20 years.” (Jackie, [20:02])

Resolution

• Miguel reluctantly agrees to a second date after Jackie’s pitch.
  • “That was the weirdest pitch I ever heard. But Jackie, I'm down for it.” (Miguel, [20:38])

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Segment 2: Incriminating News at 11

Main Characters: Richard (Listener), Hannah (Date)
Starts: [24:09]

Key Discussion Points & Flow

• Meeting Setup:

  • Richard and his buddy approach women in public using a “loser has to talk” Rock, Paper, Scissors game.
    • “Whoever loses is the one that has to go and strike up conversation.” (Richard, [25:34])
  • He approaches Hannah at a park, they chat, and she agrees to dinner.

• Dinner Date & TV Moment:

  • Date goes well—casual, long, great conversation.
  • As they leave, a local TV crew asks them to comment on rising crime.
  • Richard, a self-confessed “ham,” dives into the interview, pulling Hannah in:
    • “He goes through this whole description of this person, purse snatcher person, and then looks right into the camera and says, and if you don’t believe me, just ask my girlfriend.” (Hannah, [35:04])
  • On the news, Richard “embellishes” having seen the purse snatcher, gives a physical description, then says Hannah witnessed it too.

• Aftermath:

  • Hannah does not reply to messages; Richard doesn’t know why.
  • On the call, Hannah explains she was freaked out by being pulled into a false news story and being called “my girlfriend” on camera after only a few hours together ([35:41]).
  • She also disliked being forced into the limelight for something untrue.

Notable Quotes & Moments

• “He said it was his dream to be on local news.” (Hannah, [33:48])
• “If you don't believe me, just ask my girlfriend—and then kind of pulls me into the frame.” (Hannah, [35:04])
• “Are we gonna have a date on television this time?” (Hannah, [39:00])

Hosts’ End Banter

• They joke about turning conflict into a “Rock, Paper, Scissors” deciding system for dates ([39:03]).
• “At least we started with Rock, Paper, Scissors and we ended that way. Sure, that was fun. And we solved the local crime in the meantime too.” (Jeffrey, [39:55])

Resolution

• They agree to decide on a second date by playing Rock, Paper, Scissors live on air:
  • When Hannah wins, it’s a fun, silly end: “Paper covers rock. I win.” ([39:50])
• It’s ambiguous if they’ll really date, but the mood is light.

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Takeaways & Themes

• Dating is chaotic, and sometimes your ride of shame literally involves your mom.
• Honesty and boundaries matter—even random TV interviews need them!
• The show thrives on playful banter, realism about expectations, and authentic secondhand embarrassment.

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Segment | Timestamp | |--------------------------------|-------------| | Listener Comments & Intro | [03:09] | | Segment 1: Ride of Shame | [03:51] – [22:27] | | Segment 2: Incriminating News | [24:09] – [42:11] | | Rock, Paper, Scissors Game | [39:19] | | End Banter & Takeaways | [41:42]+ |

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Memorable Moment Montage

• Jackie’s mom grilling Miguel after church remains a classic Second Date Update moment.
• Richard’s escalation from “I saw the purse snatcher” to unwittingly implicating his “girlfriend” is pure cringe comedy.
• Brooke and Jeffrey's willingness to openly, hilariously roast both guests and each other makes the show a go-to for comic relief about real dating misadventures.

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Final Thoughts

Listeners get plenty of laughter, relatable horror stories, and—occasionally—an actual second date. This double-header classic highlights why “Second Date Update” is a fan favorite: extreme awkwardness, sincerity, and just enough hope to make you root for love (or at least appreciate your own dating life a little more).

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“Email the show and we will call the person who's not calling you back and grill them like her mom did.” – Jeffrey, [23:36]

Transcript

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[Brooke]

right, we're in it. Your back to back Classics. Thank you for being here. And truly thank you for everyone who has subscribed to our podcast, whether that's on Spotify or YouTube or Apple Podcasts, wherever you are. Yeah, I heart that too. That's rad. So thank you for being here. We love to start these always with your comments.

[Alexis]

Shane said all the way from South Africa.

[Jeffrey]

Cool.

[Alexis]

Finally caught up. You guys are hilarious. I found you guys on Facebook Subway Surfer Snippets about a year and a half ago and I've been hooked since.

[Jackie]

Yay.

[Brooke]

I love that. I love that you made it to the present.

[Alexis]

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Now you're here.

[Brooke]

Congrats. You're an incredible person and we're so glad you're here with us. Your back to back classics start right now.

[Jeffrey]

We've heard of all different types of first meetups on this show.

[Brooke]

Yeah, for sure.

[Jeffrey]

That happen at fast food restaurants, at folks funeral parlors, even the rare combo fast food funeral parlor.

It's weird, but it's weird but convenient.

[Miguel]

You know what?

[Brooke]

You bury grandma quickly and you get a Big Mac at the same time.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, I feel like there's she loved McNuggets.

There's all sorts of strange situations that people end up in, but is there anything more risky than having a guy come out and meet all of your friends the very first time you're meeting him too?

[Brooke]

Are they at the funeral?

[Jeffrey]

We're not at the funeral anymore. It actually happens. Happened to one of our listeners. A group of ladies at a club met her Tinder date and I'm just assuming that must have had an effect on why he's not calling her back. We're gonna find out. In your second date update.

[Brooke]

Next, Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.

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Second date update.

[Jeffrey]

When you have that option to spend the night over at your date's place the first time you hang out.

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

How do you make that decision?

[Brooke]

Wait, people say no?

[Jeffrey]

Well, yeah. I mean, do you pull a brook and just consult your bottle of wine until you say yes?

[Jackie]

That's funny.

[Jeffrey]

Give me 10 minutes, I'll reply.

Do you pull a Jose and check their fridge to make sure they have good breakfast options for the next morning? Or do you pull a Batman villain move like two face and flip a double headed coin?

[Brooke]

Oh wait, that's again the same answer that I always say.

[Jeffrey]

Heads again. Yeah, didn't see that coming. Guess I'm staying the night with you.

Or the other way, Jeff. Imagine telling. Got to go. The coin doesn't.

[Miguel]

I didn't think about that.

[Jeffrey]

But I only asked cuz one of our listeners had to make that decision, wondering do I stay over or do I go home right now?

Now I'm back with Brooke though, like is this a really difficult way to.

[Alexis]

You always pack a bag, extra clothes and leave it in your car?

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Miguel]

Thank you.

[Jeffrey]

Hello.

Is that a trip?

You guys have much more of a game plan than I realize.

[Brooke]

But we are so easy on this show, clearly.

[Jeffrey]

Let's talk to our listener and see how she feels. Jackie, welcome to the show.

[Jackie]

Hi you guys.

[Brooke]

Hi, Jackie. Are you better at playing hard to get than we are?

[Jeffrey]

Yeah. Jackie, stop hitting on us.

[Jackie]

I don't know.

[Jeffrey]

How did you make your bedtime decision?

[Jackie]

Well, it was really spur of the moment, I guess.

[Brooke]

So you didn't pack a bag like Alexis is what you're saying?

[Jackie]

No.

[Brooke]

Okay, okay, okay. Who did you go out with?

[Jackie]

His name is Miguel.

[Jeffrey]

Okay. You like the Latin boys?

[Jackie]

I like that a little bit.

[Jeffrey]

I mean, it doesn't mean he is for sure, but most likely.

I don't want to assume anything about him. He's probably like a super white guy.

[Jackie]

Yeah, no, he is Latin.

[Brooke]

Jose's excited.

[Jeffrey]

I already like you.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

What was the lead up before that decision?

[Jackie]

Well, I met him on Tinder, so we had been like communicating for a while and I was out with my girlfriend and we were like taking like, you know, cute girl snacks. It's Friday night. My homegirl was like, you just send him this snap, you look so cute and like invite him out. I'm like, oh my God. Right?

[Jeffrey]

Well your girls gasked you up and they're the ones I told you to invite him over.

[Brooke]

Dude, I've been out with a single girlfriend before where we're like, yeah, have them come and they meet for the first time while we're all there.

[Jeffrey]

No way.

As a guy, that'd be a little bit intimidating.

[Brooke]

Yeah, I know, but that's a test, right? Is a guy up for it?

[Jeffrey]

So how did it go?

[Jackie]

It went great. He showed up. It was like a bar club. Like, they played music. So he actually did dance. And when I tell you he can move.

[Brooke]

Oh, boy's got rhythm. Okay.

[Jackie]

I can really dance.

[Brooke]

You are a giddy right now. I love it.

[Jackie]

Well, he just. I don't know.

It was a good date, right?

I had fun.

[Brooke]

Can I ask how much alcohol was consumed at this point?

[Jackie]

A lot.

[Alexis]

How much before he got there? Like, did he show up and you were already.

[Jackie]

I wasn't, like, gone. I was like, everybody at the bar getting tipsy.

[Jeffrey]

Like, you know, you weren't brooking it on the first date. That's.

[Brooke]

That's fine. I'm never gone. The key is a glass of water after every drink.

[Jeffrey]

That sounds way too responsible. We're gonna edit that out. Okay, so, Jackie, keep going. What happens after that?

[Jackie]

So then, like, the lights come on and everyone's gone. Like, my friends are gone.

[Brooke]

What?

[Jackie]

They left cleaning up?

[Miguel]

Yes.

[Jackie]

They left me.

[Jeffrey]

But isn't that a good sign? Like, when the girls feel like you're safe enough to be on your own with this person, they're like, okay, she's got it.

[Brooke]

No. You don't ever leave a girlfriend without checking in with her first. Ever.

[Jackie]

Remember, I was drinking, like, a lot, so there is a high percentage chance that I told them that I was. Okay.

[Brooke]

Okay.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

Okay. Okay. And you felt safe with this guy.

[Jeffrey]

So the lights came on, they're shooting, shutting the bar down, and your friends aren't there. What happens next?

[Jackie]

We were hungry. Cause, you know, we had been drinking, so we got, like. Yes. And hot dogs and, like, talk.

[Brooke]

I like how you're trying to make this sound all very classy. We talked. I mean, we made out. Cause you were making out at this point, right?

[Jackie]

I mean. Yeah. In between bites.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, what?

In between hot dog bites?

[Brooke]

Yeah, sure.

[Jackie]

Oh, yeah.

[Jeffrey]

Okay. So obviously this ends up over back at Miguel's place somehow.

[Jackie]

Yeah, he said that his place was, like, up the street, and it's not normally something I would do.

[Brooke]

We all say that. You don't need to, though.

[Jackie]

Yeah, but I said yes.

[Brooke]

Okay.

[Jackie]

And we had a good time.

[Brooke]

I mean, the description of this, though, just Sounds like. I don't know. I feel like he was maybe under the understanding this was one night of fun. Yeah, it sounds like it is.

[Jeffrey]

Brooke, how dare you? It's Tinder. And are you not remembering the hot makeout session in between wiener bites?

Also true.

[Brooke]

I just. I don't know if your expectations are matching. Maybe what his were.

[Jackie]

Well, I. I kind of wanted to continue to get to know him. Like, I didn't see this as a one off.

[Brooke]

Did you tell him that?

[Jackie]

I felt like it was implied from my profile.

[Jeffrey]

No.

[Miguel]

That's good.

[Jeffrey]

You do not want to be on the first date. Like, by the way, I see this going long term. That's not a good to say to a guy.

Hook up. By the way.

I could die like this.

[Brooke]

You guys, there's a next morning. They could obviously talk about how she hopes this isn't the last time she sees him and that she sees something more with him.

[Jeffrey]

Clingy.

[Brooke]

I'm just saying, like, what was that like?

[Jackie]

So we didn't have like a ton of time to talk because I got picked up, but I did text him later.

[Brooke]

Okay.

[Jeffrey]

Okay. Did he respond?

[Jackie]

See, that's why they help. Because when I read it, it sounds like he's just being polite. Like it's a different tone to his text now rather when. When we were snapping the night before, it was very. He was more into me.

[Jeffrey]

That's weird. When I text super drunk and super sober, I sound exactly the same both ways.

[Brooke]

But she had talked to him sober, you know, like you said you had been talking to him for a couple weeks on TikTok. So you can tell a vibe show

[Jeffrey]

that that is true.

It's not like you woke up and you're like, oh, you don't look like what?

[Brooke]

And the lights went out of the bar. So he saw her in full light.

[Jeffrey]

Bar light.

[Alexis]

That is bad lighting.

[Jeffrey]

But clearly something is off here and you deserve some answers. So let's come back and call Miguel and hopefully he picks up and gives us a little bit of insight when we do your second date update right after this.

[Brooke]

Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning second date update.

[Jeffrey]

If you missed Jackie's first date, let's quickly go down the checklist of her hangout with Miguel. Okay, so is he a good dancer?

Yes.

Check. Did her friends approve? Check.

[Brooke]

Ah, those are two good things.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

Could he make out while also eating a street meat dog at the same time? Check. And check.

Oh my gosh.

[Jackie]

So it's.

[Brooke]

I may have the same type of men in mind.

[Jeffrey]

Seriously? No. Wonder Spicy. No wonder it ended with a little sleepover back at his place. But Jackie's hoping it wasn't just a one night stand thing for sure. Thing is, she can't deny that Miguel's been acting differently towards her. At least over text. He's being more polite now than he is being flirty. And we just want to help her figure out the reason why.

We just think he's sober now.

[Brooke]

The one thing I'm concerned about is that you were sounds like pretty drunk that night. And he may share a story that could be embarrassing.

[Miguel]

Oh yeah?

[Jeffrey]

Did you consider that, Jackie?

[Jackie]

I mean, I don't think there was anything embarrassing that happened.

[Brooke]

Okay.

[Jeffrey]

Okay.

[Brooke]

So you're willing to hear whatever it is?

[Jackie]

I mean, yeah, but that's why I'm calling. Because I like this guy. I thought we had a good connection on Tinder and we had fun with my friends. Even my friends are like, well, where's Miguel? And I'm like, I don't know.

[Jeffrey]

Here's the thing. If it does happen to be something embarrassing that you don't remember, the good news is Brooke has done something 10 times more embarrassing sober.

[Brooke]

Probably even.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, in fact, we all have.

[Jackie]

That makes me feel better.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, good.

[Brooke]

The comparison bar is very low.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah.

So we're always here.

Do we want to go around the room and give awful examples of how we've embarrassed ourselves?

Maybe we should save that for once we hear what the issue is. Got it. Okay, let's see if Miguel answers the phone. I'm going to dial his number right now. Here we go.

[Miguel (on phone)]

Hello?

[Jeffrey]

Hey, is this Miguel?

[Miguel (on phone)]

Yeah, who's this?

[Jeffrey]

Hey, man, we're a radio show. We're called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning.

Hey, there's more than Jeff.

[Brooke]

Yep. Hi, Miguel.

[Miguel (on phone)]

How can I help you guys?

[Jeffrey]

We're calling because we're in the middle of a segment right now that's called a second date update.

[Miguel (on phone)]

Sorry, I'm just confused. What does this have to do with me?

[Brooke]

Great question.

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Okay, well, if you don't.

[Jeffrey]

If you don't know what it is, it's where we have a listener who has gone out with you and had a really nice time, was hoping to meet up again, but that hasn't been happening and she's not really sure why.

[Miguel (on phone)]

Who is this?

[Jeffrey]

I don't know if you're seeing multiple people, but the girl who reached out to us about you today, her name is Jackie.

[Miguel (on phone)]

Jackie. Okay, Jackie from Tinder.

[Brooke]

Yeah, that's right. Is that how you have her saved in the phone? Sounds like yeah, sounds like her name. You guys met up?

[Miguel]

Yeah, we fight.

[Miguel (on phone)]

I met her and her friends at the club.

[Jeffrey]

Right. We heard the story from her, and it sounded like a really fun night with the stuff at the club, and it ended up back at your place after some street food, hot dogs.

[Brooke]

She said her friends even liked you.

[Miguel (on phone)]

Yeah, she's fun.

[Brooke]

Okay. All right. Were you going into the night just expecting to just have fun for one night? Like you weren't thinking of her maybe as a multi night type of lady? I don't want to say relationship, because I don't know that that's what she's looking for, but.

[Miguel (on phone)]

Yeah, no, we.

[Miguel]

We.

[Miguel (on phone)]

We had a situation the next morning.

[Brooke]

What?

[Jeffrey]

A situation?

What happened?

[Brooke]

She said that she had to hurry out because the car was waiting for her.

[Miguel (on phone)]

Mm. Well, yeah, So I heard her get up and call somebody to pick her up. Yeah, I told her, like, you know, I can call you noodle, whatever, and

[Miguel]

she said, no, no, it's. It's okay. It's okay.

[Miguel (on phone)]

So then she jumps in the shower, and about five minutes later, there's a knock at the door, and I open up, and it's her mom.

[Brooke]

What?

[Jeffrey]

Oh, no.

[Brooke]

Her mother is standing at your door?

[Miguel (on phone)]

Yeah. Apparently she was heritage.

[Brooke]

Oh, my God.

[Jeffrey]

Wow.

[Alexis]

I cannot imagine calling my mother after

[Brooke]

a night like that.

[Miguel (on phone)]

Yeah, she was unhappy.

[Jeffrey]

Unhappy?

[Miguel]

What?

[Miguel (on phone)]

Yeah, she was not happy.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, wait.

[Brooke]

What did she say?

[Miguel (on phone)]

Uh, oh, she started grilling me. Like, did you have fun last night? She said, how many partners have you been with?

[Alexis]

Oh.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, no.

[Miguel (on phone)]

It was really, really awkward.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, that totally explains it. Actually, I wouldn't be calling people back either.

[Alexis]

So.

[Brooke]

Wait, did Jackie ever come and interfere or know that this was happening?

[Miguel (on phone)]

It took her a while to get out of the shower and get her stuff on and everything. So in my mind, before that whole awkward situation with her mom, I was probably gonna hang out with her again. But to meet her mom on the first day like that, where she's grilling me.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, yeah. And you can't ever recover from that.

[Brooke]

And it's the. Like, her mom will always think of you as that guy.

[Jeffrey]

But it could be a funny story if you're able to spin it the right way.

[Miguel]

Oh.

[Jeffrey]

Depending on she's a cool mom.

[Brooke]

Why would Jackie call her mother?

[Jeffrey]

That's a good question, Brooke. And actually, we should find out, because I have to tell you, Miguel, that Jackie is on the other line right now listening to this phone call.

[Jackie]

Not her mom. Yeah.

[Miguel (on phone)]

Is her mom on the line, too?

[Brooke]

No.

[Jeffrey]

I don't know.

Not that we know of.

Jackie, talk to Miguel here.

[Miguel (on phone)]

What?

[Jeffrey]

Geez.

[Jackie]

Hi, Miguel.

[Miguel (on phone)]

I'm so sorry you heard all that.

[Jackie]

I. I'm just. I don't know, it's. It's weird because, like, I was waiting for you to, like, call me back, you know, just like, text. Text me back or something.

[Brooke]

Did you hear the stuff of, like, why didn't you take up his offer on getting an Uber instead of calling your mom?

[Alexis]

Okay, well, no, I get that because you're in your. You look like the morning after. It's tough in Uber, but it's better

[Jeffrey]

than with your mom.

[Alexis]

I'm just saying.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, but what if the Uber driver's cute? Yeah, I get where Alexis is coming from.

[Alexis]

No, but you do have all your friends you went out with.

[Jackie]

Okay, like my. My mom, she was like, nearby. She was leaving church and it's like

money on an Uber.

[Jeffrey]

She came from church to pick her daughter up after a one night stand?

[Alexis]

Maybe she's not.

[Brooke]

She's not. She was upset.

[Jeffrey]

Wow.

[Brooke]

Did you know that she. She was so upset she had to have lectured you in the car, said something to you.

[Jackie]

My mom usually picks me up from my one night stands.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, wait.

Oh, my God.

She's used to this behavior.

Mom knows the rundown. Okay, hey, it's another Sunday. You know what to do after Jackie.

[Brooke]

This is probably why they're all one night and not more.

[Alexis]

Yeah, that's a good point.

[Jackie]

I mean, she doesn't need everybody. I just happen to be in the shower. I didn't know she. She was gonna grill you. Miguel, I'm so sorry. I had no idea she was gonna do that. I mean, my mom is my best friend. She's my favorite person in the whole world. And I really didn't see anything wrong with her coming to pick me up after church. I mean, she was in the area. I didn't want you to have to send money on Uber. I didn't want to inconvenience anybody.

[Jeffrey]

I mean, Miguel, what do you think?

[Miguel (on phone)]

Listen, I get it. Like, I'm super close with my mom too, and I've had my mom pick me up from some really sticky situations.

[Miguel]

But.

[Miguel (on phone)]

But like, I was under 18 at the time, and, you know, I'm an adult.

[Jeffrey]

It's been a while.

[Miguel (on phone)]

It was just really off putting for you to feel like your mom doesn't like me already, you know? Like, that was. It was just really weird.

[Jackie]

She was just asking about me, like the other day, like.

[Brooke]

Wait, she was asking about Miguel?

[Jackie]

Yeah, she was asking, like, have you Heard from him. He seemed like a nice guy.

[Jeffrey]

Sometimes moms come in really, really hot when they. They just want to, like, make sure that he's a good guy. They're not actually angry.

[Brooke]

And you already ripped the band aid off with her. Like, there's no way you could get

[Alexis]

lower and she knows where you live for the next time.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, yeah.

[Jackie]

I mean, she did say that she would pick me up if it ever did happen again.

[Miguel]

Okay, this is so weird.

[Miguel (on phone)]

Like, I've never dealt with anything like this before.

[Jeffrey]

Well, we'd like to let you deal with it one more time and send you on another date with Jackie. And we'd pay for it.

[Brooke]

I bet Jackie could even promise that her mom won't come or pick her up or.

[Jeffrey]

Or maybe go out with mom and not her.

[Brooke]

Any interaction with you?

[Jeffrey]

No, she'll have her grandma come and

[Jackie]

get her this time.

I mean, Miguel, I thought that we had like, a really great time. I think that it's gonna be better. Like, mom doesn't have to come, but I also just wanna say, like, isn't my mom really hot? Like, that's how I'm gonna look in like the next 20 years. Like, she looks amazing. So if you pick me. If you pick me, Miguel, I'm gonna be hot for the rest of my life.

[Jeffrey]

Not a lot of people come on the show and try to sell themselves by saying how hot their mom is.

[Alexis]

I should try this though.

[Jeffrey]

But it's up to you. Miguel. We're running out of time here, so we need an answer.

[Miguel (on phone)]

Honestly.

[Miguel]

That was the weirdest pitch I ever heard.

[Miguel (on phone)]

But Jackie, I'm down for it.

[Brooke]

Oh, she did it. Hey, you got those good genes.

[Miguel]

Hi.

[Jackie]

Oh my God.

[Brooke]

Jackie. You know, the first person she's calling after this is her mom. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.

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[Jeffrey]

Before I say anything about this, I just want to say make sure if you miss any of our second aid updates, you go to our YouTube page at BrookeandJeffries.

[Brooke]

Yeah, they're all up there.

[Jeffrey]

We put them up every week along with our awkward Tuesday call calls. And man, maybe this should have been an awkward Tuesday phone call. Having your mom come from church to pick you up after your one night stand.

[Brooke]

Oh, and then lecture the one night stand. Oh yeah, like that was the part that how did she go from like lecturing him to I like him? Where is Miguel?

[Jeffrey]

Mom came in with the tough love after every one night stand.

[Brooke]

Apparently that is going to be one mother in law to handle for somebody.

[Jeffrey]

Oh yeah, man, why didn't we ask though? We should have specifically asked who who picked her up after the date because

[Brooke]

who would have in a million years thought it would be her mother?

[Jeffrey]

Well, whose job is it to ask that question? Alexis, we need to put you on this. Okay? From now on, okay, anytime we do a second date, you are asking the driver's name, a physical description, license plate number, and relationship status.

[Alexis]

It's not gonna get me like flagged or anything for asking all that information.

[Jeffrey]

It's just gonna help us. This is a good learning moment so that we can help our listeners email the show and we will call the person who's not calling you back and grill them like her mom did.

[Brooke]

Yep, that's right. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.

[Jeffrey]

They say everyone gets their 15 seconds of fame sometime in their life. Well, for one of our listeners, it happened in the middle of his first date

good or bad?

[Brooke]

I think it's good.

[Jeffrey]

It was good for him and included action. Actual television cameras that recorded everything he was saying. And you won't believe the reason why it happened. You're gonna find out in your second date update.

[Brooke]

Next, Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.

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[Jeffrey]

If you see a cute somebody out in the wild, I can tell you what animals would do.

Wait, why are safari.

But it might make you blush.

Oh, Jerry.

[Alexis]

Sorry.

[Brooke]

I had to let it out. I couldn't help myself.

[Jeffrey]

That's just how love work works in the animal world. But with humans, it's a little bit of a different story. In general, a lot of guys get too scared to approach if they spot an attractive woman out in the wild.

[Brooke]

Well, we are like praying mantises.

[Jeffrey]

Rip a guy's head off right after you're done with us.

[Brooke]

Yeah, that's right.

[Jeffrey]

That's the thing. The fear tends to take over. But one of our listeners says he found a way to conquer that fear by using a game. Apparently, it's interesting.

[Brooke]

Yeah, usually women don't like it when you play games.

[Jeffrey]

I don't know how it works. So let's welcome Richard to the show. Richard, how you doing, man?

[Miguel]

Good. How you doing, guys?

[Brooke]

Oh, man. Are you a happy guy? Richard, coming in.

[Jeffrey]

What's this, like, game or strategy that you use when you approach women?

[Miguel]

Well, it's a familiar game to all of you, I bet. But we play it in a different way. Me and my buddy, when we're out in a public place where we're around gorgeous women or women in general. And what we do is we shoot rock, paper, scissors.

[Brooke]

Oh, to, like, see who gets to go talk to her first or something.

[Miguel]

Whoever loses is the one that has to go and strike up conversation.

[Jeffrey]

Because you're both so, like, timid about it.

That's actually kind of smart. Either way, one of you has to approach and, like, make a move.

[Alexis]

This is like what I do with my little brother when someone has to pick something up, like, get off the couch, you know?

[Jeffrey]

Okay, that's interesting. I guess that's fun, too. So that. Did that happen to you recently?

[Miguel]

Yeah. I mean, as you might expect, the rejection rate is pretty high. But you'd also be surprised how often it works.

[Brooke]

Okay, And I'm guessing it worked this time since you're on the phone with us.

[Miguel]

Yep, exactly. My buddy's paper covered my rock. And we were at the park one day, and there was a cute girl just sort of sitting on a blanket, walked over and Introduced myself, and her name is Hannah. And.

[Brooke]

Oh, and she liked your paper. Huh?

[Jeffrey]

Huh?

[Miguel]

Yeah. Go figure.

[Jeffrey]

Do you tell them about the day? Like, do you say, hey, how are you?

[Miguel]

Oh, no, no, no, no, no. This is between my pal and me. Okay.

[Jeffrey]

I was gonna say, because then that's the reason.

[Brooke]

I mean, you've done this so many times. Do you have a go to opening line that you use when you lose Rochambeau and have to approach?

[Miguel]

No, not really. You use the same line. It's like anything else. It just gets tired and you're not into it.

[Brooke]

Yeah. So what'd you say to Hannah?

[Miguel]

I just said, hey, how are you? It's gorgeous out. And then she said, the ladies in

[Jeffrey]

this room just both swooned at the same time.

[Alexis]

Love talking about the weather.

[Miguel]

The weather, the weather. I know. It's stupid as it is. It worked.

[Brooke]

Yeah. But the thing is, it's not a line. Like, that's nice. Yeah, it feels. Yeah. Normal and relaxed.

[Jeffrey]

So were you able to get her number off of that?

[Miguel]

Yeah, and we. We talked for a little while, and we set up a dinner date, like a proper date, you know, downtown at a nice.

[Brooke]

All right. How did nice dinner go? That's exciting.

[Miguel]

It went really well. We were in there for, like, about close to two. Like, an hour and a half, two hours. I mean, just taking our time, casual conversation. And she looked hot. I mean, she looked so good. So it's one of those things where I wanted to kind of prolong the fun for as long as I could, but it had to end, of course. So we walked outside, and there's, like, one of these live remote TV crews doing, you know, person on the street

[Brooke]

interview stuff in a positive way or at a. Your restaurant just is getting shut down for health violations.

[Miguel]

No, nothing to do with the restaurant. They wanted to ask people about, like, crime in downtown.

[Brooke]

Okay.

[Jeffrey]

Have you heard about rogue people playing rock, paper, scissors in parks, Harassing women?

[Miguel]

So busted. So they asked me, you know, and I'm a bit of a hand, so I was like, all right.

[Brooke]

Oh, this is your chance.

[Jackie]

Okay.

[Jeffrey]

That's fun.

You did a TV interview with the middle of your day?

[Miguel]

I did.

[Brooke]

Wow, that's so funny.

[Miguel]

So did my thing, and then we sort of moved on from there. I didn't get a kiss. I got, like, a big hug.

[Brooke]

Really? Because you're famous now that you've been on the.

[Alexis]

Are you, like, funny in the interview or you're being, like, dead serious talking about. I don't know.

[Miguel]

I tried to be sincere But I'm still trying to be light hearted about it.

[Alexis]

Yeah, I could just see being turn off. If you're seeing someone do that.

[Jeffrey]

I don't think the local TV news stations would appreciate like a comedian coming on and joking about the crime in their city.

I wish they would ask me.

They really should. Ratings would go up.

You hear that, Channel seven? I'm waiting.

Okay, so you said you ended with a long hug and that seems pretty good. What's happened since then?

[Miguel]

Not a lot. And that's why I'm kind of talking to you guys.

[Jackie]

Oh no.

[Brooke]

God, you should have used that moment to be like, come back to my place, we'll watch the 11 o' clock news together.

[Miguel]

Smart Brook.

[Jeffrey]

Man, she knows how to get people

back to her place.

[Brooke]

Yeah, that's right.

[Miguel]

Jose, I need you to come with me and my buddy to the park.

[Jeffrey]

All right. So have you spoken to her at all since then?

[Miguel]

No, it's been silent. Like no communication back.

[Brooke]

God, everything sounds so good. It's a mystery.

[Jeffrey]

I know.

[Miguel]

That's what I thought.

[Brooke]

Criminal acts.

[Jeffrey]

Well, I'm just happy that we have a famous person on the phone with us now. To boost the ratings of this second date update, we're going to come back and call Hannah for for you right after this.

[Brooke]

Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Second date update.

[Jeffrey]

Who would have thought a little rock, scissors, paper, RSP could lead to some tlc?

[Brooke]

No one ever said it's rock, paper, scissors.

[Jeffrey]

Even hpv.

Hey, I don't know, that's different.

[Brooke]

No, there's a sounds actually, the odds are very high.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

Get your vaccine.

[Jeffrey]

Actually.

[Miguel (on phone)]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Okay.

[Jeffrey]

That didn't happened though, cuz they only hugged. They just hugged at the end of the day. Too many weird acronyms coming together there. But I bring it up.

It was the hug.

I don't think so. I only bring it up cuz that's how our listener Richard met Hannah. A game of rock, paper, scissors led to a fancy dinner date that eventually led to a TV interview with the local news.

[Brooke]

That's the wildest part, man.

[Jeffrey]

Somewhere along the way it must have gotten off the tracks cuz now he's reaching out to us for help.

[Brooke]

Yeah, totally. We never heard like it seemed like you enjoy the TV interview. But did she say anything about it?

[Miguel]

I don't know. She kind of got in on it. I pulled her into the interview and so it was, you know, both of us talking to the reporter. So that's good. Oh yeah, the hug was after.

[Brooke]

Okay, all right.

[Jeffrey]

If she just like walked Away in the middle of the.

[Brooke]

God. Do you think that the reporter realized that she was interviewing someone that was on a first date?

[Jeffrey]

Oh, I don't know.

[Brooke]

Like, that's so funny.

[Jeffrey]

I'm nervous because we're not just calling one famous person. We're possibly calling two famous people. So pressure is on. Here we go. So let's see if Hannah picks up.

[Brooke]

Her phone's probably ringing off the hook after that interview. Hello?

[Jeffrey]

Hi, we're looking to speak with Hannah.

[Jackie]

Who's calling?

[Jeffrey]

Oh, this is a radio show called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning.

[Brooke]

Maybe this is her agent.

[Jackie]

Okay.

[Jeffrey]

Is this Hannah?

[Jackie]

It is. How can I help you?

[Jeffrey]

Hi, Hannah. We're doing something on our show. It's a segment called A Second Date Update.

[Jackie]

Date, I hear.

And wow, there's a lot of you on the line there.

[Brooke]

Hi, radio show.

[Jeffrey]

You're probably disappointed that this isn't, like, a crime podcast.

[Jackie]

Okay.

[Brooke]

We heard you give good local television interviews.

[Jackie]

Oh, wow. How you hear about that?

[Jeffrey]

Give good local radio interviews.

We heard about it because a guy that you went out with recently, Richard, told us about your day.

[Brooke]

Did you just.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, wow.

[Brooke]

Is that what I heard?

[Jackie]

It was more of an O, but, yeah, we can go with. Ugh.

[Jeffrey]

I think it was a mix of you and ick. It was just a.

Okay, well, we were calling to try and ask you some questions to figure out how you felt about Richard and how you felt about the date. Yeah, because he told us a lot about it.

[Miguel]

Okay, like, I could just tell you.

[Jeffrey]

What we know is you met him at a park. You must have thought he was pretty charming because you went out to dinner with him at a nice restaurant and said you had a great time and you even got interviewed by the local news.

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

Sounds like a cool day.

Right after it was done.

[Jackie]

So weird.

[Alexis]

Very cool.

[Brooke]

Wait, what's so weird? The date was so weird or the news?

[Jackie]

Like, that you guys are calling me.

[Brooke]

That makes sense.

[Jeffrey]

I understand, but we're just trying to help get Richard some answers here because he's a little bit confused why there hasn't been a second meeting. Meetup.

[Jackie]

I'm not quite sure what he told

[Miguel]

you, but most of what I just

[Jackie]

said with sounds like everything. Well, I guess the news thing was kind of the issue.

[Brooke]

It was an issue. You said that they just interviewed you about, like, local crime and how you felt about it.

[Jackie]

That part's true. But I don't know if he told you that he actually noticed the news people first and kind of ran over to them because he said it was his dream to be on the local news.

[Jeffrey]

That's kind of endearing, though.

[Brooke]

All he said was that he was a ham, and so he was totally fine being interviewed.

[Jeffrey]

He doesn't shy away from that.

And there's all kind of personalities. Some people are like, oh, my God, my moment. And some people are like, this sounds terrifying.

Is that a turn off to you? Like, he's kind of fame hungry.

[Jackie]

I mean, I don't know if it was fame hungry, but just like, the whole thing was just really, like, just too much like.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, but what do you mean?

[Jackie]

Okay, so apparently the local news was doing a story about some kind of purse snatcher, an event that had, like, literally just happened. Oh, that night.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, no.

[Brooke]

I thought it was, like, more generic the way he described it.

[Jackie]

Okay, no, it was not generic. And apparently this has been happening repeatedly in the area.

[Brooke]

Okay, okay.

[Jeffrey]

This purse snatcher person.

[Jackie]

And this is where it gets really creepy and weird. Yeah, he mentioned that he saw the guy, the purse snatcher guy, while we were walking into the restaurant for our date.

[Brooke]

Did he though? I mean, maybe he did.

[Jackie]

I don't know. I mean, he said he's, like, giving the guy, the news reporter, a physical description. Like, this guy's got shifty eyes. He might have had something under his jacket.

[Jeffrey]

What, he's making it all up or

[Brooke]

is that what you're thinking?

[Jackie]

That's what it seems like. And then, like, he goes through this whole description of this person, hearse snatcher person, and then looks right into the camera and says, and if you don't believe me, just ask my girlfriend. And then kind of pulls me into the frame.

[Jeffrey]

There it is.

[Brooke]

That's it.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, yeah, he did mention that you were on TV for a bit, but I didn't realize that was how.

[Jackie]

No, he, like, yanked me into the frame. I was kind of standing off to the side, like, deciding whether or not I should just dip.

[Jeffrey]

So did you show off your man or what?

[Jackie]

This was our first date, and I. I mean, the park was nice, the date was n nice. But at this point, I'm like, wait, you're talking about me Like, I'm your girlfriend. We've only known each other for, like, three hours. Are you kidding me right now?

[Brooke]

And I was totally gonna give him the benefit of the doubt. Like, well, maybe he did see the purse snatcher and didn't want to tell you.

[Jackie]

And the best part is afterwards, he tells me that he's super proud of me and I did great on camera.

[Brooke]

I mean, maybe he meant, like, hey, Friend. That's a girl. Girlfriend.

[Jeffrey]

No guy ever means no.

[Jackie]

No.

[Jeffrey]

Okay.

[Jackie]

He made it like I'm his girlfriend and that if the news people don't believe him, then he can check with me because I saw the guy too.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, yes. Well, I. I know that it was awkward when he pulled you into the TV interview, so now we're going to even it out and make it awkward by pulling him into this phone interview.

[Jackie]

Oh, my God. I could have known better.

[Jeffrey]

Cuz he's. Yeah. On the other line wanting to talk to you.

[Miguel]

Thanks for the st. Hey, Hannah.

[Brooke]

Hey.

[Jackie]

Hey. Hey, big guy. How's it going, big guy?

[Jeffrey]

I've never. That hurts.

[Brooke]

It did hurt. Yeah.

[Miguel]

Way twisted around you guys, like.

[Jackie]

Yeah, you twisted it.

[Miguel]

Oh, I'm. I'm saying that this is kind of embellishing. What. What happened? I mean, you know, I. I think I saw the purse snatcher guy. You were right there with me. I mean, face it. I mean, if there was a guy who was going to be downtown snatching purses, just look at that dude and

[Jackie]

think, okay, well, yeah, we saw a guy. We saw lots of guys. Like, that doesn't mean that he. He's the purse snatcher and that you

[Miguel]

have to look like as guilty or sketchy or such.

[Jackie]

Yeah, he looked a little sketchy, but I don't know that that's the person. That's right. I'm not going to go accusing him of being the first snatcher on national. On local tv.

[Jeffrey]

Was he holding a purse?

[Miguel]

No.

[Brooke]

Was he holding several purses? That's the key.

[Jackie]

No, he was just walking by quickly in a dark outfit.

[Jeffrey]

He already ditched the purchase in the alley.

He's putting his.

[Alexis]

He good at his craft.

[Jackie]

He wasn't wearing a trench coat or anything. It wasn't like he was hiding stuff under the coat like a normal person.

[Miguel]

Yeah. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. You were the one that said, look at that dude with, like, the bandana on, you know, like, who wears

[Jackie]

him?

And I was trying to help you find the word.

I was like, you. You mean.

You said he had something on his head. I'm like, oh, do you mean a bandana?

[Brooke]

Wait, did you say that on television?

[Jackie]

Yes.

[Brooke]

Oh, no, that's messed up.

[Jeffrey]

A walk in the park. And now it's like in the hunt for crime.

All right, well, this is clearly irresponsible on Richard.

[Jackie]

Really?

[Miguel]

Well, I would say it's shared responsibility.

[Miguel (on phone)]

I mean,

[Miguel]

if they brought this guy into your studio and you took a look at him, you'd be like, yep, first Snatcher, I think.

[Jackie]

Unfair.

[Brooke]

Yeah. Or they'd come into the studio and be like, which one of you did it? Yeah, you know, Pretty shifty yourself.

[Jeffrey]

I probably already be friends. Friends with him.

Well, the real snatching that we're interested in is the snatching of hearts and love.

[Jackie]

Oh, God.

[Jeffrey]

That's what. That's the whole goal of this show.

Illegal.

[Brooke]

She just threw up a little bit in her mouth.

[Jeffrey]

Well, the reason that we called you, Hannah is because Richard wants to go out with you again.

[Jackie]

Oh, Lord.

[Brooke]

Maybe that's a good thing.

[Jackie]

Yeah, I mean, are we gonna have a date on television this time?

[Jeffrey]

No, I want you guys to go out again. And I think the only appropriate way to decide hide this is by doing Rock, Paper, Scissors. And if you both have the same exact thing, then you know that it's meant to be and you can go

out if it's a tie.

[Jackie]

Okay?

Okay.

Okay. I'll do Rock, Paper, Scissors for a date.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, well, I will count to three. On three, both shout out the name of what you're throwing. It is good for radio. And this is the one time that we're gonna do this unless it works. And then we're gonna do Rock, Paper, Scissors on the tens every single day. So here go we. We go both Ready? 1, 2, 3.

[Brooke]

Why would you go with paper first? It's always rock. What are you thinking?

[Miguel]

Paper covers rock.

[Brooke]

I win.

[Miguel]

Let's go.

[Jeffrey]

He wasn't listening.

[Brooke]

You're out.

[Jeffrey]

At least we started with Rock, Paper, scissors and we ended that way. Sure, that was fun. And we solved the local crime in the meantime too.

Hey, we may be on the local.

Shifty eyes. Something under the jacket.

[Brooke]

Keep a lookout and Jeffrey in the morning.

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[Jeffrey]

Oh man, I'm just bummed for our listeners.

[Brooke]

Why?

[Jeffrey]

Because we won't be doing Rock, Paper scissors on the 10 starting Monday morning.

[Brooke]

Man, I thought it was gonna actually replace phone taps. Yeah, we just call people and battle them.

[Jeffrey]

You just got Rochambeau.

It's about to be the hottest segment in all of radio.

[Brooke]

But oh man, I blame Alexis. I don't know. You didn't like it.

[Alexis]

Yeah, I love rock, Paper, scissors. That's how I handle all life's problems.

[Jeffrey]

And look, I do feel like we should say if you talk to the news, don't lie or embellish stories just to make it sound better. I know that nobody watches the local news and you, you think that you're trying to help, but Brooke has journalist friends who work over there.

[Brooke]

They need real stories, actually work really hard.

[Jeffrey]

Don't confuse them with your lies.

[Brooke]

No, no. They're just trying to help the community out and save democracy all at the same time. You know, one man on the street interview at a time.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah.

[Miguel]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

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