Second Date Update Classics: Sweet Sixteen Dates+ Be Excellent & Be Thirsty

Summary

Podcast Summary: Brooke and Jeffrey – Second Date Update Classics: Sweet Sixteen Dates + Be Excellent & Be Thirsty

Date: January 31, 2026
Hosts: Brooke & Jeffrey
Episode Type: Second Date Update Classics

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Overview

This episode is a double-feature of classic “Second Date Update” segments, a fan-favorite where the hosts help listeners reconnect—or at least get closure—after being ghosted following a first date. As always, the show’s tone is playful, sarcastic, and unruly, with plenty of comedic banter between hosts and guests. The episode spotlights two memorable scenarios:

1. Sweet Sixteen Dates – Kelly recounts her year of dating misadventures and frustrations when her latest prospect, Steve, goes radio-silent after a messy Cuban sandwich picnic.
2. Be Excellent & Be Thirsty – Bobby (aka “Steve”) tries to woo Tori by living out a “Be Excellent” philosophy, but fails to make her feel special amidst his grandstanding good deeds.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Fan Appreciation and Banter ([03:12])

• Brooke reads fan comments, joking about a listener who’s listened to every Second Date Update.
  • Brooke (03:14): “Yikes. That is an early morning ... and you got 17 year olds now that you’re taking care of. I’m kidding ... she’s just been doing it for 17 years.”

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Segment 1: Sweet Sixteen Dates (Kelly & Steve)

[04:22–20:47]

Kelly’s “Dating Wrapped” Recap

• Kelly summarizes her dating year—16 first dates with a diverse crowd (including “an Irish guy” and “one who may have been homeless”).
• Of those, only three made it to a third date; one blocked her, which she suspects was because the guy was married.
• Kelly (06:16): “It was 16 first dates total… eight were like mutual ghostings; three I rejected; and one blocked me, but he was a little sus.”

Memorable Quotes:

• Brooke (08:00): “You’re not old fashioned, you’re cheap. Let’s be honest.”
• Jeffrey (07:46): “1 in 16 being blocked, that’s not bad!”

The First Date with Steve

• Casual date: Cuban sandwich picnic at a park near a playground.
  • Kelly gets sauce all over her face; Steve points it out playfully.
  • Light joking about messy eating and women “making anything a positive.”
• Kelly (09:37): “[Steve] pointed to my entire lower half…‘everywhere, under your nose.’”
• Brooke (09:44): “Honestly, I didn’t realize I carried so much food on my face until I met [my husband].”

“Weird” Interaction & Potential Red Flag

• Kelly jokes about having all the kids on the playground as their children and even invents backstories—like putting a misbehaving one “up for adoption.”
• Turns awkward, later revealed as the main issue for Steve.

Memorable Quotes:

• Brooke (15:23): “So she was describing a nightmare, right? Like, that’s how she meant it?”
• Steve (15:36): “I’ve known you for like 20 minutes, and now we’re having eight kids together…”

On-Air Confrontation

• Kelly is offended that Steve thought she was serious, calls him “emotionally and intellectually stunted,” and criticizes his planning.
• Steve stands his ground, feeling attacked, and ultimately wants nothing more to do with Kelly.

Exchanges:

• Kelly (16:55): “Now I realize why I had 16 unsuccessful dates last year. It’s because they were all like you, Steve.”
• Steve (20:13): “No, I’m not going out with her again ... this woman is a little out there for me.”

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Important Timestamps

• [06:09] Kelly’s “dating wrapped” breakdown
• [08:24] Introduction of Steve
• [09:37] Messy sandwich incident
• [15:07] Playground/kids conversation & Steve’s discomfort
• [16:44] Kelly confronts Steve live on air
• [18:31] End of second date prospect

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Segment 2: Be Excellent & Be Thirsty (Bobby/Steve & Tori)

[25:15–41:46]

The “Tao of Steve” Philosophy

• Bobby describes his guiding rules:
  1. Be desireless
  2. Be excellent
  3. Be gone
• He tries to impress Tori by doing good deeds throughout the date, e.g., walking a lost tourist family to a museum, paying someone else’s unpaid restaurant bill.

Memorable Quotes:

• Jeffrey (25:38): “If you can live by all three of those rules as a man, you will become irresistible to any woman on Earth.”

Where It Goes Wrong

• Tori feels ignored and like Bobby is “on a date with everyone but her.”
• He doesn’t compliment her, leaves her waiting for a table, interrupts her stories, and is “too nice” to strangers while inattentive to her.

Exchanges:

• Tori (34:40): “It kind of just felt like I was on a date with someone who was giving attention to everyone and everything else except me.”
• Brooke (35:00): “If she’s in heels, it’s not comfortable to walk people to the–”

Confrontation and Self-Reflection

• Once prompted, Bobby explains he was trying to “demonstrate value” by being excellent to others.
• Tori just wanted normal conversation, attention, and compliments.

Exchanges:

• Brooke (39:10): “All you have to do is ask me questions and listen and compliment.”
• Bobby (41:00): “Yeah, I’m listening now. Look, you’re hot. And I’ll pick up your napkin and, like, you want me to ask you questions…what are you doing next Friday? Let’s get dinner.”
• Tori (41:16): “I’m gonna pass.”

Hosts’ Closing Reflections

• Brooke and Jeffrey riff on the madness of dating “strategies” and the overthinking that sabotages basic connection.
• Jeffrey (43:43): “Sometimes men don’t listen very good.”

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Notable/Memorable Moments

• Dating "Wrapped": The opening conversation riffs on the “Spotify Wrapped” trend, setting up the first segment’s tone.
• Communication Clash: Both segments revolve around mismatched expectations and misread signs—theme: it’s easy to overthink or misinterpret in early dating.
• Playground Kids Bit: The “let’s imagine these are our kids” line, misunderstood by Steve, becomes a classic Second Date Update moment of lost-in-translation awkwardness.

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Key Quotes (with Timestamps & Attribution)

• “You’re not old fashioned, you’re cheap. Let’s be honest.” – Brooke (08:00)
• “It was 16 first dates total... eight were like mutual ghostings; three I rejected; and one blocked me, but he was a little sus.” – Kelly (06:16)
• “I’ve known you for like 20 minutes, and now we’re having eight kids together…” – Steve (15:36)
• “Now I realize why I had 16 unsuccessful dates last year. It’s because they were all like you, Steve.” – Kelly (16:55)
• “It kind of just felt like I was on a date with someone who was giving attention to everyone and everything else except me.” – Tori (34:40)
• “All you have to do is ask me questions and listen and compliment.” – Tori (39:04)
• “What is Brooke saying, Jose? I don’t know.” – Jeffrey (44:11)

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Important Segment Timestamps

| Segment | Timestamp | Description | |------------------------|------------|-------------------------------------------------| | Fan Mail & Banter | 03:12 | Brooke reads testimonial, pokes fun at fandom | | Kelly’s Dating Recap | 06:09 | “Dating wrapped” breakdown | | Messy Sandwich Story | 09:37 | The sandwich-on-face incident | | Playground Kids Bit | 15:07 | "Imagine if we had that many kids" awkwardness | | Confrontation | 16:44 | Kelly and Steve face off live | | Tao of Steve Intro | 25:38 | Bobby’s dating rules explained | | Good Deeds Date | 28:07 | Museum & restaurant heroics | | Tori’s Side | 34:40 | Tori: “On a date with everyone but me” | | Bobby’s Philosophy | 38:02 | Overthinking leads to failed connection | | Final Outcomes | 20:13,41:16| Both women reject second dates |

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Tone & Takeaways

• Original Speaker Style: Banter-heavy, frequently sarcastic, with a blend of empathy and irreverence.
• Themes:
  • Modern dating is increasingly complicated by overanalysis and self-sabotage.
  • Communication—especially humor and intentions—easily gets lost or misinterpreted.
  • Sometimes, elaborate strategies work against genuine connection.
• Memorable Moments: “Let's imagine if we had that many kids” gone awry; the “be excellent” philosophy takes center stage before crashing and burning under the weight of its own rules.

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In Summary

This classic episode of Brooke and Jeffrey’s Second Date Update highlights the pitfalls of modern dating. Between Kelly’s streak of disastrous first dates and Bobby’s over-engineered attempts to “be excellent,” the show delivers both cringe and comedy in equal measure. The core message? The best dating advice might be to put away the playbook, be present, and leave the grandstanding for another day.

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For listeners: If you’ve ever tried too hard or said something that came out all wrong on a first date, you’ll find plenty to relate to—and laugh about—here.

Transcript

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Back Classics to get you through whatever you need to today. Maybe it's a workout, maybe it's chores. Maybe you just need a nap. Yep. Hey, it's Brooke and Jeffrey and we love that you're here. We appreciate it so much. We will have a brand new episode this coming Monday. But first comments Christine Nicole said first time ever commenting because I have finally listened to every single second date update since the very beginning. I'm a career hnw nanny of 17 years and while absolutely loving my job, Yalls podcasts give me a little extra pep in my step, especially for the 4:30am morning. Yikes. That is an early morning and you got 17 year olds now that you're taking care of. I'm kidding. Wait, I reread it. I was like, did I say that? I'm sorry. She's just been doing it for 17 years. Imagine her.

[Jeffrey]

Still, it blows my mind how many people like know more second dates than we do. Yeah, I don't remember more than maybe five.

[Brooke]

You listened since before I worked here. Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

You're like historian.

[Brooke]

Yeah. Really truly. Thank you so much for your dedication and your insanity. The kids are good today. Yeah. Let's get your back to back classics started right now.

[Jeffrey]

You've probably heard the saying never order spaghetti and meatballs on the first date unless you're 100% sure you're going to lady in the Tramp.

[Brooke]

It's a good exception.

[Jeffrey]

I've actually tried that with a chicken nugget once.

[Brooke]

Really? That's very.

[Jeffrey]

It did not work out as sexy as I thought it would in my head. But anyway, look out because there's a brand new food item you should absolutely avoid ordering on any first date or you're probably gonna instantly turn them off. Unfortunately, one of our listeners did it. And you're gonna hear what that was in your second date update right after this.

[Brooke]

Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning second date update.

[Jeffrey]

There's a new trend that's happening right now where people online are posting dating wrapped videos. Have you guys seen that?

[Brooke]

Like, you're Spotify wrapped, but like, wait, how many matches and stuff you got?

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, like an end of the year recap of their dating life from the past 365 days.

[Brooke]

I feel like that could go really wrong. But it's like who you swipe on, what you don't like, who you know. Yeah, it's just like the type of person. Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

Or like the total amount of dates that you tried for the past year and you're patting yourself on the back. It's a good thing.

[Brooke]

Okay. It's not about the failure.

[Jeffrey]

And today's caller, Kelly, mentioned in her email that she's dated around a lot over the past year. So our producer asked if she could give us a dating rap for herself. All right, so we're gonna hear that in a second. First, Kelly, welcome to the show.

[Kelly/Tori (Listener Callers)]

Hi. Thank you. Thanks for having me.

[Jeffrey]

Thanks for being on with us. We want to hear about what's your dating rap briefly for us, if you can.

[Brooke]

Every time you say rap, I want her to, like, break doubt.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, we don't need the hip hop version.

[Brooke]

Thank you, Jose. That's what I wanted.

[Jeffrey]

Just give me. I can give you a beat if you need.

[Brooke]

It would make the wrapped way more cooler.

[Jeffrey]

Just a quick breakdown. What was your dating life like last year?

[Kelly/Tori (Listener Callers)]

Yeah, that's funny. I wish I could wrap my raps, but it was 16 first dates total.

[Brooke]

Okay.

[Kelly/Tori (Listener Callers)]

Mostly. Mostly Americans. I had two Australians, one Irish guy, one guy who I don't know what his accent was, but I think he may have been homeless also. Or just.

[Brooke]

Is that in the rapt or is that your version homeless accent?

[Jeffrey]

You just pick up accents from everywhere.

[Brooke]

Wow. No judgment.

[Jeffrey]

So that's good. It sounds like you're keeping your options open. Was there anything more? What? What did you think about the 16 guys that you were with? That sounds really weird.

[Brooke]

Don't say it like that. You're the same judgy.

[Jeffrey]

You know what I meant. Of the 16 gu you met separately during the year. Thank you, Jennifer. How did they go?

[Kelly/Tori (Listener Callers)]

Yeah, you know, like, out of the 16, six made it to a second date.

[Brooke]

Okay.

[Kelly/Tori (Listener Callers)]

Out of those six, only three made it to a third date or more.

[Brooke]

All right.

[Kelly/Tori (Listener Callers)]

Yeah. Now all the guys, two flat out rejected me right after the date. Eight were like mutual ghostings. Three I rejected and told them it just wasn't going to work. And one blocked me, like immediately after the date. But I was. He was a little sus. I think he might have been married.

[Brooke]

Wait.

[Bowen Yang]

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[Brooke]

Oh.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, God. Yeah.

[Brooke]

Nothing you did wrong there. Yeah. Other than go out with him, I suppose.

[Jeffrey]

Alexis, looking back at her 16 first dates, how would you grade her overall experience?

[Brooke]

It's not looking good. But 1:16 for being blocked, like, that's not bad. 1:16 and it wasn't for something she did. Exactly.

[Jeffrey]

I like that angle. That's a good aspect. Outlook. I mean.

[Kelly/Tori (Listener Callers)]

Yeah. And out of the 16, I only had to pay half on, like one of them. And I'm really old fashioned and I prefer the guy to pay. That's just how my mom and dad taught me.

[Brooke]

You're not old fashioned, you're cheap. Let's be honest. I mean, I get it.

[Jeffrey]

It could be both.

[Kelly/Tori (Listener Callers)]

Yeah, no, it's just how it was. And I cried over two guys last year and ended up with zero serious relationships.

[Jeffrey]

Jose and I do make a lot of women cry when they listen to this show. Oh, yeah, we do. So, Kelly, none of the 16 guys worked out, but now apparently you say there's a new guy and that's why you reached out to us.

[Kelly/Tori (Listener Callers)]

Yeah, there's a new guy. I was hopeful. I don't know yet. His name? Steve. It was like an online match and it was just a casual date. It was really like less than an hour, like a 40 minute.

[Brooke]

Oh, so you went out with them already?

[Kelly/Tori (Listener Callers)]

Yeah, we just got Cuban sandwiches from this little sandwich shop and just went to the park and ate and talked and we were by this playground with kids running around and why is that important?

[Brooke]

Is that significant in some way?

[Jeffrey]

The playground, like, that's my kid. No, it's a lot of information coming at us. I mean, there's sandwiches, there's a park, there's a playground, there's children. Does that sound like a good date? First, like, overall, Alexis, no kids around. No, but the sandwiches. Sandwiches, okay.

[Brooke]

Sandwich is okay. And honestly, if the playground was empty, I'd play on it, but it's the.

[Kelly/Tori (Listener Callers)]

Kids that are there.

[Jeffrey]

That would be a fun date.

[Brooke]

Playing on the playground.

[Jeffrey]

Okay.

[Kelly/Tori (Listener Callers)]

That would be a fun day. That would be. No, it was really just kind of a lunch date. Really? Because, like, the sandwiches were really messy. And at one point he was like, you got something on your face. And I was like, oh, where? And he was like. He pointed to, like, my entire lower half. And he was like, everywhere. Under your nose.

[Brooke]

That means he's paying attention. You know, he's looking at you.

[Jeffrey]

You have, like, a muscle.

[Brooke]

Honestly, I'm not even joking. When I met my husband, I didn't realize I carried so much food on my face until I met that man. And I was like, he always has something to point. That's like no one else before him ever said anything.

[Jeffrey]

Which is amazing how the women on this show can spin anything into a positive for another woman.

[Brooke]

I mean, you heard the odds, Jeff. I don't think that's bad. I mean, how'd you guys end it?

[Kelly/Tori (Listener Callers)]

After we ate, we were just kind of like, oh, if we had a frisbee, we'd throw it. But we just kind of. Kind of like, picked up a stick and was kind of playing with it and then just throwing a stick.

[Jeffrey]

Go get it. Go get it. You played fetch with your date?

[Kelly/Tori (Listener Callers)]

No, but it got a little awkward. You know, I was really hoping he'd say, like, you know what, let's just who grab a drink and proceed to, like, a nighttime thing. And he's so cute. I'm sure he gets a lot of attention from women on. On the app, so.

[Brooke]

Well, he doesn't sound very good at a date. I mean, he didn't even bring a frisbee. He didn't even eat at a sandwich place. He went to a park. Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

Why is the man in trouble for paying for the sandwich? She's the one that ate it sloppily on the date.

[Brooke]

I'm just saying that I don't think he's getting hit on as much as she thinks because he is not as experienced as he should be, which is a good sign.

[Jeffrey]

I'm sure it's the man's fault somehow, but let's prove it when we come back. Yeah, we're going to call Steve for you and try and get you your second date update right after this. Your name is Steve. You better pick up. All right, hold on.

[Brooke]

Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Second date update.

[Jeffrey]

I feel like in the first part, we definitely missed something we missed. And by we, I mean Brooke.

[Brooke]

Okay, I know that we were going there.

[Jeffrey]

Brooke was adamant that even though the guy is the one not calling Kelly back.

[Brooke]

Yes.

[Jeffrey]

And Kelly said herself he's very good looking and must get a lot of attention on the dating apps. And Kelly's the one that had sandwich pieces all over her face. Brooke heard all of that and says, nope, the guy is a bad date planner. I bet no women want to go out with.

[Brooke]

No, no, I didn't say no women. I just said I don't think that he's as wanted as she thinks. I'm trying to hype her up, okay? She has something to offer on this table, and he is going to. Maybe. Maybe he was too intimidated by how awesome she is. You know, the sandwich all over her face.

[Jeffrey]

I'm so intimidated.

[Brooke]

Listen, I've gotten food on my face. It shouldn't stop anything. Okay.

[Jeffrey]

Actually, yeah, just. Yeah, eat politely once on one of your dates. Try that. But look, the whole thing is Kelly really liked the guy that she met up with, Steve. They did a casual date in the park with Cuban sandwiches. They tossed a stick back and forth. It was a great time.

[Brooke]

The stick was a little straight. Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

I mean, they weren't sure what else to do. It was short, though.

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

And so now afterwards, she's hoping to get one more shot with him because he's been kind of ghosty.

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

Have you heard from him at all, Kelly?

[Kelly/Tori (Listener Callers)]

I haven't. And now I'm nervous because I was really sloppy. Maybe I was. I grossed him out. I don't know.

[Jeffrey]

Drunk or just the slopes of food all over you.

[Brooke]

The passion that you had going into that sandwich is what it is.

[Kelly/Tori (Listener Callers)]

It was really good.

[Jeffrey]

If you could do that to a sandwich, just imagine what else you could do.

[Brooke]

That is right, Jeffrey. We are here to hype her up.

[Jeffrey]

A sandwich.

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

It's disgusting.

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All right.

[Kelly/Tori (Listener Callers)]

I love you, Brooke.

[Jeffrey]

That's not what he says, but here we go. I'm gonna dial his number. We'll see what he has to say. Let's do it.

[Steve/Bobby (Listener Callers)]

Hello?

[Jeffrey]

Hey, we're looking for Steve.

[Steve/Bobby (Listener Callers)]

Speaking.

[Bowen Yang]

Hey.

[Jeffrey]

Hey, Steve. I said we because you're on the radio right now with Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.

[Brooke]

Hey, Steve. How you doing, man?

[Steve/Bobby (Listener Callers)]

You're from the radio.

[Brooke]

And podcast. Podcast, too.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, yeah, yeah, we got a good podcast.

[Brooke]

We are multifaceted here.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, we're in the future with our entertainment, but we're focused on you right now because one of our listeners went on a date with you the other day and really had a good time, wants to see you again, but that hasn't quite happened yet, and she's not sure why. Her name's Kelly.

[Steve/Bobby (Listener Callers)]

Oh, man.

[Brooke]

Okay. Oh, man.

[Jeffrey]

Okay.

[Brooke]

He meant oh, man. Yes. Yeah, that still doesn't sound good.

[Jeffrey]

The fact that you're not reaching out for another date is kind of hinting that you're not interested, but we're not sure if that's true or not. We want to know what you think about Kelly.

[Steve/Bobby (Listener Callers)]

She's very nice. Like, Kelly's cool, but, you know, I just don't think it's gonna work out.

[Brooke]

Okay, is there. Is there a reason? I mean, did you went in to it thinking that it could work out, right?

[Steve/Bobby (Listener Callers)]

Yeah, I mean, definitely. But, you know, like, we got some food and then we went to the park and yeah, it started to get a little weird, but, like, you know, I don't want to blow up her spot. Like, I don't even know you guys, so.

[Jeffrey]

See, we didn't hear anything, like, weird. She said she had, like, some food or something on her face, but nothing stood out to be weird.

[Brooke]

Maybe that's weird to him, you know, like, maybe it's weird to him to have a female have food all over their face.

[Steve/Bobby (Listener Callers)]

No, no, actually, I thought that was kind of cute.

[Brooke]

See, I told you guys. Not a turn off.

[Jeffrey]

Licked it off. Okay, what was the issue? You said it was weird. Yeah, what's.

[Steve/Bobby (Listener Callers)]

Yeah, I'm like, so, you know, we were sitting on the bench, we're chilling, and there's like a playground, you know, that's in this park that we're in. And.

[Brooke]

Oh, yeah, she randomly mentioned that to us, too.

[Steve/Bobby (Listener Callers)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kelly/Tori (Listener Callers)]

And she.

[Steve/Bobby (Listener Callers)]

So there's like a bunch of kids playing, and all of a sudden she points and she's like, oh, my God, look. Imagine if we had that many kids, and those were all our kids running around, and there were like, I don't know, like 8, 10 kids playing on the playground. Oh, my God.

[Brooke]

So she was describing a nightmare, right? Like, that's how she meant. Like, imagine how chaotic our life would be.

[Steve/Bobby (Listener Callers)]

She sounded thrilled.

[Brooke]

Oh, thrilled.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, so that's a red flag to you? Well, that's a lot.

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Steve/Bobby (Listener Callers)]

Yeah. I mean, like, I've known you for like 20 minutes, and now. Now we're having eight kids together.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

Okay. In her defense, I will say it sounds like maybe she was just trying to fill the void. Like, maybe there was like an odd. Because she said, like, it kind of died at the end your guys's date. Maybe she was just trying to, like, I say dumb things.

[Jeffrey]

Could you understand that point of view? Maybe, Steve?

[Steve/Bobby (Listener Callers)]

I mean, I guess I could, but she started getting, like, really into it.

[Jeffrey]

Oh.

[Steve/Bobby (Listener Callers)]

She was, like, naming them. There was like this other one weird thing where she wasn't feeling one of the kids and she was like, he's not playing nice. We would put him up for adoption.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, she's obviously kidding. Well, that should be a positive for you, because you don't want that many kids.

[Brooke]

Then you would only have seven.

[Jeffrey]

There you go. You're getting closer to your goal.

[Brooke]

She didn't say she was a good mother of eight.

[Jeffrey]

That's a good point.

[Brooke]

Just a mother.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, well, that. It sounds like it was all that conversation kind of scared you Was too much for you joking or not?

[Steve/Bobby (Listener Callers)]

Yeah, I mean, you know, like.

[Brooke]

Yeah, but if she was joking, maybe you could work it out.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, and there's a perfect person to find out whether or not it was a joke. That's Kelly, who's on the other line right now waiting to talk to you.

[Steve/Bobby (Listener Callers)]

Wait, Steve, Kelly's here?

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, Kelly and her seven children. Say hi.

[Brooke]

Oh, did she give another one up for adoption? Are we down to six now?

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, Ever since you heard that.

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

Kelly there?

[Kelly/Tori (Listener Callers)]

Yeah, Steve, it's Kelly. I am. I'm, like, fuming. I am so offended. Yes, because. And you know what? This is why. Now I realize why I had 16 unsuccessful dates last year. It's because they were all like you, Steve. Like, emotionally and intellectually stunted.

[Brooke]

Why are you upset? Why are you so mad?

[Kelly/Tori (Listener Callers)]

Yeah, because, my God, Brooke, you were totally right. Steve, you suck at planning a date.

[Brooke]

I'm just trying to hype you up, not to him down.

[Jeffrey]

Look what happened.

[Kelly/Tori (Listener Callers)]

Listen, if you even had, like, an ounce of a sense of humor, like, you would get that I was obviously joking, and I was. For you to actually think that I was serious, like, oh, my God, like, you must be a narcissist that you would think I would reach you for 40 minutes and suddenly want to have your babies.

[Jeffrey]

All right. Well, all right.

[Steve/Bobby (Listener Callers)]

Okay.

[Jeffrey]

I think we're. I think we're going down a path we don't need to go down any farther. You weren't happy with Steve's response there? Steve, are you there?

[Steve/Bobby (Listener Callers)]

Yeah, yeah, barely, but I'm still here.

[Jeffrey]

Would you like to respond to any of the allegations just hurled against you?

[Brooke]

I thought you guys were all gonna have a big laugh about how it was a miscommunication.

[Kelly/Tori (Listener Callers)]

Steve, bottom line, you planned a boring date, and now I'm paying the price for it.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, that, like, backfired on you.

[Brooke]

That's not.

[Jeffrey]

Steve, do you see your date as being said?

[Kelly/Tori (Listener Callers)]

I'm not gonna go for just the looks like I was. I thought you were super cute. I ignored the fact that you are.

[Jeffrey]

Too much.

[Steve/Bobby (Listener Callers)]

What kind of radio show is this? You just trash dudes all morning.

[Jeffrey]

It depends on how many drinks Brooke is having.

[Brooke]

I was just trying to make her feel better about you not calling her. And now I don't know. I think that this was already happening and I didn't realize it.

[Steve/Bobby (Listener Callers)]

You know, you don't have to tear somebody else down just to try to make somebody else feel better.

[Jeffrey]

Fine.

[Brooke]

That's a good life lesson, Steve. I agree with you, all right? I wasn't trying to tear you down. I don't know. I didn't know she'd be so bad. I don't think you said anything wrong, Steve.

[Jeffrey]

Those are thoughts that should have happened before you said the terrible thing.

[Steve/Bobby (Listener Callers)]

Me either. I'm just being honest, okay?

[Jeffrey]

Oh, everybody, be honest with everybody. This is a good chance to have Steve admit that maybe he didn't plan the best first date.

[Kelly/Tori (Listener Callers)]

Yeah, he didn't.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, now we know. Okay? And maybe Kelly didn't make the best conversation. Trying to invent an Entire family of.

[Brooke]

Eight 20 minutes into the conversation that Kelly own that.

[Kelly/Tori (Listener Callers)]

Yeah, well, I'm sorry that I was so bored that I had to use my freaking imagination.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, that was an apology. I don't think it was.

[Brooke]

You could have imagined the kids in, like, a sweatshop or something. That wouldn't have been a red flag.

[Jeffrey]

Brook's trying to get a business plan going. So? So, Steve, if you're hearing what I'm hearing, then you probably see the same thing as me, which is potential for true love. And that's why we would be delighted to send you out on another date that we would pay for.

[Steve/Bobby (Listener Callers)]

Yeah, I don't know if they're on the same page.

[Jeffrey]

Messy sandwiches and all. Put it on our tab, okay? Adoption fees. Brooke is going to cover that. Yep.

[Brooke]

Sure.

[Jeffrey]

What do you say?

[Steve/Bobby (Listener Callers)]

No. No, I'm not going out with her again. I don't know what she's talking about. She went on 16 failed dates. Like what?

[Kelly/Tori (Listener Callers)]

Like this.

[Steve/Bobby (Listener Callers)]

This woman is a little out there for me.

[Brooke]

Only one blocked her, though.

[Jeffrey]

Only one?

[Steve/Bobby (Listener Callers)]

It's about to be two.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, I'm sorry. Kelly, say goodbye to Steve forever.

[Brooke]

All right, Kelly. Someone will get your humor someday.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah.

[Kelly/Tori (Listener Callers)]

No, it's okay, Brooke. You know, you're absolutely right. This guy knows nothing about planning, and he should absolutely own this.

[Jeffrey]

You, too, girls. You've ruined your hope for all women, bro. Congratulations.

[Brooke]

Not what. What I meant. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.

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[Jeffrey]

Was a great example of the power that Brooks words have with our listeners.

[Brooke]

I don't know what went so wrong. I really don't know how I went from trying to hype somebody up. Like, I don't know.

[Jeffrey]

You weren't hyping anybody up though. You were pushing the guy down.

[Brooke]

I wasn't trying to because play it.

[Jeffrey]

Out at the end of the first part. Brooke could have said, okay, you guys did like a sweet little date in a park out in nature. He got you a meal. You guys spent time talking and getting to know each other.

[Brooke]

She was feeling self conscious because she's like this is a really hot guy and he's probably got tons of girls. And I'm like nah, the guy doesn't even bring a frisbee to a date he doesn't know.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, you call the guy boring because he didn't book a midnight laser light show with free drugs for whatever types of dates that you're into. And look what happened. She immediately hopped on the Brooklyn, blew up into a tirade against every man who's ever let her down, ever. It's a good reminder that we. And when I say we, I mean you. Again, Brooke, that we need to stay open minded. If it's not your ideal cup of tea first date idea doesn't mean other people can't enjoy it.

[Brooke]

I just was trying to make her feel better. Jeff, how many times do I have to tell you that?

[Jeffrey]

Don't. It's not worth it. Let other people feel sad sometimes.

[Brooke]

I've gotten to a fast food burger place with a Bogo coupon on a first date and still gone out with a guy again. I don't care.

[Jeffrey]

Everybody lower your standards as low as Brooks are and your dating life couldn't possibly be bad.

[Brooke]

I'm just saying.

[Jeffrey]

We're just saying we can try and help you with your date life. Email the show if you ever need help. We'll call that person who isn't calling you back.

[Brooke]

Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.

[Jeffrey]

Ladies. I have a question. Why aren't there more of you getting locked up in magical towers and getting tied up to train tracks and getting slowly lowered into vats of boiling lava?

[Brooke]

Yeah, what the heck?

[Jeffrey]

Frankly, you're not giving men enough opportunities to step up and become heroes for you.

[Brooke]

God, my life's a lie, Alexis. Why aren't you more helpless? I know. I'll take all my friends off. Find my friends right now.

[Jeffrey]

You do need longer hair, by the way, making us look bad. But recently, one of our listeners had not one, but two opportunities to be a knight in shining armor right in front of his date, and he could not believe his luck. So why is she completely ignoring him after his impressive display of heroism?

[Brooke]

She's already saved. She doesn't need him anymore.

[Jeffrey]

Well, put yourself into danger again, girl.

[Brooke]

What are you waiting for?

[Jeffrey]

All right, we're gonna try to find out what happened in your second date update right after this.

[Brooke]

Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning second date update.

[Jeffrey]

We got an email from one of our listeners who says he's been living his life by a dating philosophy that's been circulating on the Internet now for about two decades. It's called the Tao of Steve. That is Tao of Steve. And I've not heard anything about this, but according to him, it involves Three basic rules that men must live by.

[Brooke]

Okay.

[Jeffrey]

Number one, be desireless. Number two, Nobody.

[Brooke]

Nobody wants you.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, I'm good at that one. I'm not sure. I guess we'll find out. Number two is be excellent. And number three, Be gone. And if you can live by all three of those rules as a man, you will become irresistible to any woman on earth. Even married women. Brooks. So look out. Maybe get your earplugs ready before we talk to him.

[Brooke]

I love those gone boys.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, we're going to learn more in a second. First, let's say hello to Bobby, who needs our spiritual guidance today. Bobby, welcome to the show.

[Steve/Bobby (Listener Callers)]

Hey, guys. How you doing?

[Brooke]

I wanted you to be Steve, the originator of all of this, but apparently you're Bobby. That works, too.

[Steve/Bobby (Listener Callers)]

Well, we can't be everything, I guess. All the time. I'm doing my best here. I'm doing my best.

[Brooke]

Is it. Isn't calling our show breaking Rules 1 and 3 already of your.

[Steve/Bobby (Listener Callers)]

Yeah, you guys are on to me, but it's a desperate situation. I need you.

[Brooke]

That's rule number number four. Be desperate. Jeffer just didn't get to it.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah. So tell us, who's this woman that's making you go against everything you believe in?

[Steve/Bobby (Listener Callers)]

Her name is Tori. She's super hot and she's super nice, and we just had an amazing date. And, like, I don't know. Normally a woman would respond to all these philosophical things I've done, but it's completely backfiring on me now.

[Brooke]

Because if you're excited about someone and it's like the first time you've ever felt this way, like, lean into it, like, life's too short. You be desireless. And you could tell sometimes if someone's, like, purposely waiting to, like, reply to do it, like.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah. Next thing you know, you end up on this show and you hit your rock bottom. So.

[Brooke]

Wow.

[Jeffrey]

Bobby, tell us, how did you get to this point? Like, tell us about your date with Tori.

[Brooke]

How did you know her? Is it an online thing or.

[Steve/Bobby (Listener Callers)]

No, no, we. I. I met her at a bar. I just kind of bumped into her. And you have to be desire full in the beginning and then you be desire less.

[Brooke]

Okay.

[Steve/Bobby (Listener Callers)]

That's how it works.

[Jeffrey]

Okay. Makes sense.

[Steve/Bobby (Listener Callers)]

I'm in the phase between desireless and be excellent. And we're waiting outside the restaurant because it's like a popular place, you know? So I had my opportunity to be excellent. Just come upon me. It was awesome.

[Jeffrey]

What are you excellent at, friend.

[Brooke]

Oh, I'm excited. What this Opportunity was what happened.

[Steve/Bobby (Listener Callers)]

So this foreign family, I'm not sure where they were from. I didn't speak whatever language they spoke. Like, vaguely. I can tell they're looking for a specific museum, Like, a really famous museum.

[Brooke]

Okay, so they're like, tourists in the area and they need some help.

[Steve/Bobby (Listener Callers)]

Yeah, exactly.

[Brooke]

Okay.

[Steve/Bobby (Listener Callers)]

They weren't understanding my directions, so I was just, like. With my fingers, I was like, I will walk you there. You know, like little, like, walking man fingers.

[Brooke]

Interesting. Most people would pull out Google Translate on their phone or pull it up on their phone on Google Maps and give it to them, but. Okay.

[Steve/Bobby (Listener Callers)]

Yeah, but Google Maps isn't excellent. I want to be excellent.

[Brooke]

You're being kind. You're going to leave your date standing in front of the restaurant while you walk this family?

[Steve/Bobby (Listener Callers)]

Absolutely not. I took her with me.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, so now you're demonstrating that you're a guy who's willing to help strangers. You know your way around the neighborhood, generally a lot of excellent qualities.

[Brooke]

You know what a museum is?

[Jeffrey]

Yes.

[Steve/Bobby (Listener Callers)]

You know, exactly.

[Jeffrey]

So did you go straight to the bedroom from the museum, or did you have to do more?

[Steve/Bobby (Listener Callers)]

Well, you know, if you have the chance to be excellent twice, let's do it twice. And luckily for your boy here, he was excellent twice in one night at the museum.

[Jeffrey]

Someone needed directions back to the restaurant, coincidentally. Wow.

[Brooke]

What'd you do the second time?

[Steve/Bobby (Listener Callers)]

So the second time we're having dinner. Dinner's, like, pretty much finishing up. And you could just tell, like, someone dined in dash. Someone hadn't paid their bill.

[Brooke]

Yes.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah.

[Steve/Bobby (Listener Callers)]

Like, the waiters were all huddling together and stuff, and, like, it was an expensive bill. It was a big deal.

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, geez.

[Steve/Bobby (Listener Callers)]

I took care of the bill, and I tipped the waiter. Just kind of nonchalant, like.

[Brooke]

Oh, w. Wow.

[Jeffrey]

That's super nice, bro.

[Brooke]

I thought you were going to go to hero mode and tackle the dine and dasher, but you just took care of it.

[Steve/Bobby (Listener Callers)]

I mean, I think tackling the dine and dasher is cool, but it's even cooler to be nonchalant.

[Brooke]

I see.

[Jeffrey]

How do you be nonchalant after just going over and paying someone else's bill? Like, what do you say to Tori when you come back to the table?

[Steve/Bobby (Listener Callers)]

Well, the thing is, you say nothing and you wait for her to question you. What was that? And then you reveal.

[Jeffrey]

Wow.

[Brooke]

Did she fall into that. That ploy?

[Steve/Bobby (Listener Callers)]

100%.

[Jeffrey]

Oh.

[Steve/Bobby (Listener Callers)]

She was like, what was that? I was like, I just took care of it. Little shoulder shrug. No biggie.

[Brooke]

No. Meanwhile, you're checking your bank statement to make sure it doesn't bounce.

[Steve/Bobby (Listener Callers)]

These things, These are investments.

[Brooke]

Okay.

[Jeffrey]

You are investing, though, because you know she's gonna think about little things like that.

[Brooke]

Honestly, it's a gentleman thing to do.

[Jeffrey]

Absolutely is. So we're all impressed. Did it work on Tori?

[Steve/Bobby (Listener Callers)]

If you had asked me in the moment, I was like, couldn't be better. I walked her, we hugged, I gave her a peck on the cheek, said we'd talk, and then it turns out she gone. Me? Oh, no.

[Brooke]

Yeah, the goner got gone.

[Steve/Bobby (Listener Callers)]

She never hit me up.

[Brooke]

How long did you wait before you contacted her after the date?

[Steve/Bobby (Listener Callers)]

Well, I mean, like, according to the rules I live by, I'm trying to be gone, so I was trying to be gone for a while.

[Brooke]

That's your answer right there. You think she thought she got ghosts? I mean, yeah, if you don't hear from someone after a first date, you're not. Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

So maybe your rules are playing against you if you're sticking to them.

[Steve/Bobby (Listener Callers)]

Yeah, but, like, after, like, four or five days, I just couldn't take it anymore, and I just started texting her, and I was absolutely desireful, not excellent. And I was present.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, man. She broke you.

[Brooke]

I feel you.

[Jeffrey]

Steve would be so disappointed in your behavior.

[Brooke]

When I tell myself I'm going to eat healthy, and then, what do you know? A whole box of Oreos ends up in my mouth, you know?

[Jeffrey]

And now you're reaching out to us, which I think breaks your first rule of, like, be desireless, because now you're asking a radio show to show how much you want to hang out.

[Steve/Bobby (Listener Callers)]

Yeah, I mean, all the rules are out the window at this point. I want Tori so bad.

[Brooke]

I want to be so bad.

[Jeffrey]

We're throwing every rule that we know out the window when we come back and call Tori for you and try to get her to agree to abide by the towel of Bobby and give you one more chance with your second date update right after the this. Hold on.

[Brooke]

Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Second date update.

[Jeffrey]

You know, you're in a good place when you find yourself abandoning your entire belief system to score a date with a woman. I've abandoned my belief six times since I got to work today.

[Brooke]

Oh.

[Jeffrey]

And it feels great.

[Brooke]

I don't know if we could call a dating strategy your belief system. That seems a little dramatic.

[Jeffrey]

Well, that's what Bobby said. He told us he used to live by a dating philosophy called the Tao of Steve, which, if you didn't hear, it's basically three Rules about demonstrating your value while also not coming across as desperate or too available. Okay, so he stuck to those very strictly. Until he met Tori.

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

And said, screw it. Tori's way too hot. I need to know why she's not calling me back right now.

[Brooke]

I mean, he lasted four days until he started incessantly texting her.

[Jeffrey]

Exactly. Yeah.

[Brooke]

With no response.

[Jeffrey]

Now, Bobby, I'm assuming you don't want us to tell Tori about your mantra and the rules that you follow. Unless you already told her.

[Bowen Yang]

Did you?

[Steve/Bobby (Listener Callers)]

No, no, no. I didn't tell her my philosophy. Don't tell her my philosophy.

[Jeffrey]

That's part of it. You don't say it.

[Brooke]

But also, don't you assume. Most singles out there try to do the same general thing. Play hard to get, not be too available. It's pretty common. Be excellent. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Steve/Bobby (Listener Callers)]

But, like, this is my secret sauce. You can't tell them the secret sauce.

[Brooke]

Hanging on to it.

[Jeffrey]

I think it's admirable. That is a plan, because mine is just drink a lot and hope for the best. So, Bobby, you're in a better spot than a lot of people, and we've.

[Brooke]

All seen you after you drink a lot.

[Jeffrey]

Y.

[Brooke]

It's not peak sexuality is what I call it.

[Jeffrey]

But she's a crier, too. Yeah, we'll see.

[Brooke]

That's exactly right.

[Jeffrey]

Jose, let's call Tori. We'll see what she has to say, why she's not calling you back. Hopefully she picks up, but I'm dialing her number right now. Here we go. She may not even pick up for us. How hot is she?

[Kelly/Tori (Listener Callers)]

Hello?

[Jeffrey]

Hey, we're looking to speak with Tori.

[Kelly/Tori (Listener Callers)]

Can I ask who's calling?

[Jeffrey]

Yes, you can. We're a radio show. We're called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning.

[Brooke]

Hey, Tori. The whole show's here.

[Kelly/Tori (Listener Callers)]

I'm sorry, what's going on?

[Jeffrey]

We're doing a segment on our show called the Second Date Update where we're trying to help out one of our listeners. Get in touch with you after you already went on one date with him.

[Kelly/Tori (Listener Callers)]

Is this like some Internet thing or.

[Jeffrey]

No, no, it's much more disgraceful. It's a radio thing. Thing. Yeah.

[Brooke]

But it's also a podcast.

[Jeffrey]

Focus on the radio part. That's the cool bit of this because we're just trying to get some answers for Bobby about why you're not hanging out again or even talking to him at all.

[Kelly/Tori (Listener Callers)]

I mean, it was a date, okay?

[Brooke]

I mean, you could see it's probably pretty obvious that it's driving him Nuts. Not knowing why you're not calling. Because.

[Kelly/Tori (Listener Callers)]

Yeah. I mean, it's kind of just felt like I was on a date with someone who was giving attention to everyone and everything else except me.

[Jeffrey]

Oh.

[Brooke]

Why do you say that?

[Kelly/Tori (Listener Callers)]

Even when we first got to the restaurant, we were waiting, and he offered to show some people that were lost away to the museum.

[Jeffrey]

But that's nice.

[Kelly/Tori (Listener Callers)]

Yeah, but I was starving and we lost our reservation, so we had to wait another 30 minutes.

[Jeffrey]

No, because you were gone. Oh, I could see that happening, actually.

[Brooke]

And I'm sorry. Not only that, like, if she's in heels, like, it's not comfortable to walk people to the.

[Jeffrey]

So you don't value helping people. You value material things like food and shoes.

[Brooke]

Don't come at her like that.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, I'm trying to understand where your thought process is.

[Kelly/Tori (Listener Callers)]

I mean, it. That was just one part of the day. Like, even when we were inside, he would compliment the wait staff, but how dare he never once complimented me.

[Brooke]

Oh, interesting.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, that's important.

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

You're like, the focus of the whole night. Or at least I told the wait staff to compliment you for him if he wasn't going to do it directly. You look so beautiful. Could you also relay that to her? Yeah.

[Brooke]

I can't believe he didn't compliment you, because, I mean, he gushed about you to us, about how hot and lovely and nice you were. He never said anything like that to you?

[Kelly/Tori (Listener Callers)]

No. I mean, even when I was in the middle of a story, I was telling him about my vacation to Europe, and he got up in the middle of it and went and picked up a napkin somebody else dropped at another table.

[Jeffrey]

Whoa. He's almost like. It's gonna sound funny. He's almost, like, too nice to the guy.

[Brooke]

He thinks she cares about things that she does. Like, I think girls are impressed by those things, not just listening to them, you know?

[Kelly/Tori (Listener Callers)]

Yeah. And, like, even at the end, he held the door open for someone else and then went out behind them. Not holding the door for me.

[Jeffrey]

And didn't hold the door for you. What the heck?

[Brooke]

Okay. Do you think he's nice to everyone but you? Here's the thing. Obviously, he's a kind person. Do you think that he was just nervous and maybe that's why those things didn't happen for you?

[Kelly/Tori (Listener Callers)]

He didn't seem nervous, and he was super nice, polite, talkative with everyone else.

[Jeffrey]

Okay.

[Brooke]

Okay.

[Jeffrey]

But a lot of times, guys don't want to, like, seem too desperate in front of a girl and won't say the Thing that they're feeling because it'll make them seem, you know, beta, which. Which is a thing. That's so funny. It's a complex that guys have, and.

[Brooke]

That'S why they slam doors in their face.

[Jeffrey]

But maybe he was just in his own head too much. And we should probably ask him about it because Bobby is waiting on the other line wanting to compliment you profusely. Let's hope.

[Kelly/Tori (Listener Callers)]

I'm sorry, what?

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, he's. He's been listening to this call. Bobby, you there?

[Steve/Bobby (Listener Callers)]

Hey.

[Brooke]

Coming in hot. Little sheepish there, Bobby.

[Jeffrey]

Anything you want to say to her?

[Steve/Bobby (Listener Callers)]

Tori, you didn't like all those excellent things I did?

[Brooke]

Oh, that is not the response.

[Jeffrey]

Set you up there.

[Kelly/Tori (Listener Callers)]

I mean, what was the point of me being there if you weren't going to give any attention or participate in the date at all?

[Steve/Bobby (Listener Callers)]

I mean, you didn't really give me a lot of attention after the date. You know, I gave you a lot of texts and calls and stuff.

[Kelly/Tori (Listener Callers)]

Why would I do that? Give attention to someone who clearly didn't have the time of day for me?

[Steve/Bobby (Listener Callers)]

No, that's. That's really.

[Kelly/Tori (Listener Callers)]

That's.

[Steve/Bobby (Listener Callers)]

Sorry, that's not it. Okay, so basically.

[Jeffrey]

Bobby, wait, wait, hold on. Are you sure you want to do. Do this?

[Brooke]

Yeah. Wouldn't it be easier to just, like.

[Jeffrey]

Apologize and compliment her?

[Steve/Bobby (Listener Callers)]

Yeah, but, like, you guys want me to lie there? I don't want to lie there. I gotta be honest.

[Jeffrey]

We said compliment her. Okay, that's a lie.

[Brooke]

Go for it then.

[Jeffrey]

But if you want to clear your chest, man, then go for it.

[Kelly/Tori (Listener Callers)]

Bobby, what do you have to tell me? Like, can you hurry up? I've got things to do.

[Steve/Bobby (Listener Callers)]

Okay. Okay. So, like, I live by these. These philosophical rules, all of which you don't really need to know about, but basically, like, I was. I was trying to demonstrate value and be excellent for you to other people. You know, maybe it came off as like, I didn't care about you, but I was, like, trying to do these things to show you what I'm capable of, like my potential and stuff.

[Jeffrey]

I can pick up a napkin so fast. Yes.

[Steve/Bobby (Listener Callers)]

Yeah, exactly. I can pick up a napkin so fast.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah.

[Kelly/Tori (Listener Callers)]

I don't even know what you're talking about right now. Like, all you have to do is ask me questions and listen and compliment.

[Brooke]

That is a lot to ask for. Yeah, that is.

[Jeffrey]

The thing is, complimenting kind of goes against the philosophy that he believes in. So.

[Brooke]

No, that would be part of being excellent.

[Jeffrey]

No, it'd be breaking desireless, but.

[Brooke]

Yeah, but you do that he said after the first date. See, this is the whole thing with rules. Like, they get so complicated. Why don't you just be a normal human and have a good conversation?

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, let's get rid of laws, too.

[Brooke]

Jeff, that doesn't.

[Jeffrey]

No structure.

[Steve/Bobby (Listener Callers)]

I think I know what she's talking about. I think she just doesn't like people who do good things.

[Brooke]

Here's a question, Tori. If he would have done those things for the other people and also listened and complimented you and asked you questions, wow. How would you have found felt?

[Kelly/Tori (Listener Callers)]

I mean, it would have been better, but I'm not sure why he needed to focus on everything else except our date.

[Steve/Bobby (Listener Callers)]

Yeah, like, I can't. I can't do all those things. I was already tired doing the other stuff.

[Jeffrey]

It's a lot, man.

[Brooke]

So it's one or the other for you.

[Jeffrey]

You're either fully thinking, strategizing, or. Or you're doing nothing.

[Brooke]

He's not a multitasker.

[Steve/Bobby (Listener Callers)]

Yeah, like, I'm sorry for being excellent.

[Brooke]

Okay, that's not the apology that she was.

[Jeffrey]

Really should have stepped in before. The one thing that he is focused on right now, Tori, his only focus is getting another date with you. That is why he reached out to a radio show to get a hold of you and arrange a second meetup. And we would pay for it if you're willing to give him a second chance.

[Kelly/Tori (Listener Callers)]

I think I'm good. I don't want to be with someone who just likes to grandstand.

[Jeffrey]

But remember, Bobby's not good. He's excellent. So you could level up.

[Brooke]

I mean, now he knows, right? Like, now the expectations of what you're looking for out there. Like, you might as well give him a chance to make that happen. Don't you think?

[Steve/Bobby (Listener Callers)]

Yeah, I'm listening now. Look, you're hot. And I'll pick up your napkin and, like, you want me to ask you questions. What are you doing next Friday? Let's get dinner.

[Brooke]

That was actually the smoothest thing he's ever done.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, Tori, what do you think?

[Kelly/Tori (Listener Callers)]

I'm gonna pass.

[Brooke]

We did our best.

[Kelly/Tori (Listener Callers)]

Honestly, he just. He came on way too strong at the end and acted just like a simp.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, simp behavior. That's what he's trying to avoid.

[Brooke]

Simp.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, Bobby, you're back to square one.

[Steve/Bobby (Listener Callers)]

Dude, these rules just, like, don't work for some people. Like, I'm desireless. Doesn't work. I'm desireful. It doesn't work. I'm excellent. I'm too excellent. I'm gone. I'm Too gone.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah. Welcome to dating women buddy. It's gonna be a long road.

[Brooke]

Nobody said too excellent but yourself. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning you.

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[Jeffrey]

You know, after thousands of second date calls, I'm starting to notice a trend. Sometimes men don't listen. Very good.

[Brooke]

Wait, are you just now hearing that?

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, I'm like thousands. I don't know if anybody saw this, but even when guys get her like beating over the head with good information, sometimes it just just doesn't register for guys. Also, sometimes information doesn't register.

[Brooke]

Yeah, just like it's hard to sometimes change, right?

[Jeffrey]

What?

[Brooke]

This guy.

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Sorry, what were you saying?

[Brooke]

This guy was so like stuck on his plan that when it was the problem. He couldn't, like, he couldn't shift. He couldn't pivot.

[Jeffrey]

What is Brooke saying, Jose? I don't know. Anyway, the thing is, next time you get get angry at a man for not listening, maybe turn your attention to God for making us that way.

[Brooke]

Oh, it's, it's. I see. It's. It's God's fault.

[Jeffrey]

Yep. Thanks a lot, God.

[Brooke]

God's fault put us in a bad.

[Jeffrey]

Spot over here, but we can put you into a good spot in your dating life. If you want some help with that, at least we'll try. Email the show, we'll call that person who's not calling you back, and two.

[Brooke]

Out of the four of us will actually hear what you said.

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