Second Date Update Classics: The First Five Seconds + Hang Up On Him

Summary

Podcast Summary: Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update Classics: The First Five Seconds + Hang Up On Him (April 11, 2026)

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Episode Overview

This episode revisits two classic, highly entertaining "Second Date Update" segments where listeners try to uncover why their promising first dates fizzled into ghosting. True to the show's reputation, these tales deliver as much humor and awkwardness as heartbreak and real talk, as Brooke, Jeffrey, and the team dive into the baffling world of modern romance.

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Segment 1: The First Five Seconds

(Timestamps: 05:03 – 21:02)

Main Story

Graham, a listener, is puzzled after a dream-like first date with Aura led to her suddenly being "too busy" for follow-ups.

Key Discussion Points

• Instant Chemistry
  • Graham describes an immediate, strong connection the moment he sees Aura:

    “She immediately recognized me and started from across the room, waving both of her hands over her head like a total dork.” — Graham (06:54)

    • The show reacts with delight at Aura's free-spirited, unembarrassed energy.
• Fun, Playful Date
  • They bond over jazz music at a wine bar, inventing silly nicknames for the musicians and cracking each other up.
  • Small, cute flirty moments: Graham signals to Aura she has lipstick on her teeth, and she jokingly accuses him of "having a stroke."
• Hopeful Goodbye
  • The date ends with a “really long, tight hug” and Aura saying:

    “We have to definitely do this again.” (09:25)

• Why the Cold Shoulder?
  • Aura replies to Graham’s texts by simply saying she’s busy, without offering alternative plans.
  • Show speculates on reasons: Did he wait too long to text (two days)? Did he do something off-putting?
• Calling Aura (Segment Highlight: 14:00–20:54)
  • Aura joins the call, initially confused and a bit defensive.
  • She insists she really is just “busy,” and pushes back on the idea that Graham is being brushed off:

    “I meant what I said. I’m just really busy.” — Aura (15:08)

  • Drama peaks when she reveals the real reason:

    “But, like, you should—and you probably need to know this—but I’m in, like, two other situationships.” — Aura (18:27)

    • The team reacts with laughter, clarity on why Graham was on the back burner.
  • Eventually, Aura offers a Sunday afternoon slot—making clear that Graham would be her third “situationship.”
  • Graham debates but decides:

    “Look, guys, I think I should just go with my gut and say, you only live once and let’s do it.” — Graham (19:47)

  • The team agrees to send them on another date, with everyone acknowledging the less-than-romantic, but realistic, outcome.

Notable Quotes

• “Beggars can’t be choosers here. Like, you’re the one who’s late to the party. But it’s still a party.” — Aura (19:17)

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Segment 2: Hang Up On Him

(Timestamps: 24:49 – 41:53)

Main Story

Jackie claims she's on the verge of giving up on dating—unless Brooke and Jeffrey can help her solve the mystery of her failed second date with Steve.

Key Discussion Points

• Jackie’s Ultimatum
  • Jackie opens with:

    “If this doesn’t work out, I’m done. I am done.” (25:48)

  • She’s been “saying yes to anyone who asks” to increase her odds in dating.
• Promising Start
  • She and Steve have a great day-date at a farmer’s market, capped with a first date kiss and mutual excitement for a second date.
  • Steve immediately texts to set up date #2.
• Sudden Ghosting
  • The day before the planned second date, Steve cancels by text and never reschedules or replies again.
  • Jackie is understandably frustrated:

    “[...] And now he’s ghosting me. I mean, it’s so unbelievably frustrating.” — Jackie (29:16)

• Calling Steve (Major Drama: 33:08–41:53)
  • Steve is reluctant but ultimately explains:

    “I had a stronger romantic connection with somebody else, and I didn’t think it would be fair to her to continue.” — Steve (35:03)

  • Jackie immediately erupts, accuses Steve of being a “cheater,” and launches into a tirade about him being “selfish,” even referencing his failure to buy her water at the farmer’s market.
  • The show tries to mediate, Brooke noting:

    “This is not the reaction that you are gonna want to have.” — Brooke (36:45)

  • Jackie fixates on not seeing Steve’s “movie room” in his basement, adding more chaos to the call.
  • Steve, calm but firm, says:

    “I feel like I dodged a bullet. It’s like I’m watching the Matrix in my face.” — Steve (39:19)

  • Jackie goes into overdrive (“I juiced it up a little bit, but I’m legitimately pissed.”) and insists Steve will call her back.
• Show Reflection
  • The group expresses exhaustion after Jackie’s emotional swing, but admiration for her chaotic optimism.

Notable Quotes

• “He is a cheater. I know a cheater when I smell one.” — Jackie (35:36)
• “I just had a stronger connection with someone else. I’m sorry.” — Steve (37:13)
• “After that, he is definitely going to reach out to me. Like, a little crazy.” — Jackie (39:45)
• “It was an emotional roller coaster and I’m exhausted.” — Brooke (43:10)

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Memorable Moments & Quotes

• “Beggars can’t be choosers here. Like, you’re the one who’s late to the party. But it’s still a party.” — Aura (19:17)
• “You only live once and let’s do it.” — Graham (19:47)
• “He is a cheater. I know a cheater when I smell one.” — Jackie (35:36)
• “I just had a stronger connection with someone else. I’m sorry.” — Steve (37:13)
• “It’s like I’m watching the Matrix in my face.” — Steve (39:19)
• “After that, he is definitely going to reach out to me. Like, a little crazy.” — Jackie (39:45)
• “It was an emotional roller coaster and I’m exhausted.” — Brooke (43:10)

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Key Timestamps

• [05:03] Graham describes his magical first date with Aura.
• [07:32] Graham and Aura's playful jazz bar antics.
• [09:25] Long, tight hug goodbye. Aura says, “We have to definitely do this again.”
• [14:00–18:36] Aura joins the call, reveals “situationships.”
• [18:36] Aura confirms Graham could be her third situationship.
• [19:47] Graham says YOLO, agrees to date.
• [25:48] Jackie sets her dating ultimatum.
• [27:31] Jackie’s “cute first kiss” with Steve.
• [29:00–30:00] Steve cancels on Jackie; no explanation.
• [33:08] Calling Steve; Steve is evasive.
• [35:03] Steve claims a stronger connection with someone else.
• [35:36–39:40] Jackie’s meltdown.
• [39:19] Steve: “I feel like I dodged a bullet.”
• [43:10] Brooke and team decompress after wild call.

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Podcast Tone & Team Commentary

• The hosts keep the mood light and witty, with playful jabs (“press 9 to date me,” “beggars can’t be choosers,” “Sunday boy”), but provide genuine advice and comfort to their callers.
• They call out desperate or questionable behaviors but also empathize with romantic disappointment.

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Takeaways

• Chemistry and hope can fizzle quickly—or be complicated by modern “situationships.”
• Sometimes, it’s not you—it’s the dating jungle.
• Honest communication is rare, and ghosting often leaves people chasing closure.
• Listeners leave entertained, if not reassured, about their own dating struggles.

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[Brooke]

Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning and you know, a lot of people go to like the pollen count and things to see how bad allergies are.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, I see it on the weather app.

[Brooke]

We just turned to Ashton over there to see if he's sneezing. Yep, he just irregularly.

[Jeffrey]

Is that nose red today?

[Brooke]

He is.

[Graham]

I don't know. Wait a minute.

[Brooke]

He's a, I don't know, sensitive redhead.

[Alexis]

So honestly, I feel like you sneeze year round, but it gets a little worse at certain times.

[Jeffrey]

That's how we know if his eyes are puffy. We know.

[Jeff]

Yeah, exactly. 7:00am and 8:00am on the dot.

[Brooke]

It's the Ashton count. And if you suffer from allergies, we're really sorry, but.

[Jeffrey]

Or if you suffer from Ashton.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

Either way, Jeff's got a great song for you. I don't know if you realize we do parody songs. Jeff writes them every week and performs them. You can see them live. Not live, live. To tape. I guess you could say.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, they were live when they were filmed.

[Alexis]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

But you can see them on our YouTube, which we love it when you check that out. It's at Brooke and Jeffrey. And we are working on some more video for second dates. Yeah, it's a process.

[Jeffrey]

So it's just me dancing in the studio.

[Brooke]

Stick with us on that one. But right now we're gonna do some back to back classics. Yeah. Have fun.

[Jeff]

When you're on a really good first date and the chemistry's on, you're feeling the butterflies.

[Jackie]

Yes.

[Jeff]

But you look across the table and notice there's something on your date's face that shouldn't be there.

[Brooke]

Uh oh.

[Jeff]

Do you a silently lick your finger and rub it off yourself?

[Brooke]

Uh oh no.

[Jeffrey]

What if it's a birthmark or something? Ye.

[Brooke]

That's a risk.

[Graham]

That's a risk.

[Jeff]

Do you B, pull the fire alarm and hope the water from the sprinkler washes it away?

[Brooke]

That's a good solution, Jeff.

[Jeffrey]

Or you're so smart.

[Jeff]

Option C, do what our listener did when he found himself in that situation.

[Brooke]

Oh, no.

[Jeff]

We're gonna find out if option C contributed to him not getting a call back. You'll find out what happened in your second date update. Next.

[Brooke (Ad Segment)]

Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Second date update.

[Jeff]

Brooke, did you know the first time that you met your husband Michael that something was special? Not. Not saying that you knew, like, you were going to get married in the first 15 seconds of talking to him, but was there anything that happened with you instantly that let you know, whoa, there's something real, like something actually special going on?

[Brooke]

Oh, no. I just felt so good around him, and I was so excited about him.

[Jeff]

Okay, you were drunk, so that's probably why.

[Brooke]

I mean, I did have, like, five glasses of wine and make a off color UTI joke in the night I met him.

[Jeff]

Okay, well, yeah, UTI jokes.

[Brooke]

And he still likes me.

[Graham]

Okay, there you go.

[Jeff]

That explains it. I mean, I remember the first time that I met Jose and I noticed his fly was down, and I thought, ooh, special.

[Jeffrey]

But you didn't tell me xyz, though.

[Jeff]

No, I enjoyed it.

[Brooke]

He asked you to put it down further.

[Jeff]

Yeah, but, you know, we don't talk about this all the time about that first 10, 15 seconds when you meet your date and something happens inside that lets you know. Apparently, that happened to one of our listeners, Graham, recently. At least that's what his email said. And we should learn a little bit more about it. Graham, welcome to the show, man.

[Graham]

Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my call. Oh, hi.

[Brooke]

I can't wait to hear about this chance meet. Or maybe it wasn't chance meeting. Whatever the meeting was, it sounds great.

[Jeff]

Yeah. So without getting overly descriptive, how did your body let you know that this was special?

[Graham]

Well, she didn't have her fly open, I can tell you that.

[Brooke]

Dang it.

[Jeff]

So what's her name, by the way? And how did you meet her?

[Graham]

Her name is Aura.

[Brooke]

Aura. That's cool. How'd you meet her?

[Graham]

We met on one of those dating apps, and we decided to meet at a wine bar.

[Brooke]

All right, so going into meeting her at the wine bar, were you expecting something special?

[Graham]

Well, you know how you always have your hopes up. Yeah, but I knew when I walked in that I was going to be in so much trouble. Wow. She immediately recognized me and started from across the room, waving both of her hands over her head like a total dork.

[Jeffrey]

She's just one of those people like me. She got no shame.

[Brooke]

I love her. And you loved that, right?

[Graham]

Oh, my gosh. She was just so, like, effortlessly cute

[Jeffrey]

little free spirit over there.

[Brooke]

Her name's Aura. It comes with an.

[Jeff]

Just a good energy.

[Brooke]

That's adorable.

[Jeff]

So.

[Brooke]

And it sounds like she was excited to see.

[Graham]

It was one of those, like, initial meetings where in the first five seconds I was like, oh my God, this is just like a dream. It was fantastic.

[Jeff]

That must be a lot to process, right, when you're first getting to know somebody. So did the feeling wear off and just get into like a normal date after that?

[Graham]

I mean, I wouldn't say it wore off or it was normal. It was just. I mean, there was a jazz trio playing and we were both into jazz music and she was like, oh, let's make up names for the guys. And so you have Sammy Sly guitar playing and Dennis the drummer, all that kind of stuff. We were just cracking each other up the whole time.

[Jeffrey]

You guys were in your own world, right?

[Jeff]

Exactly.

[Brooke]

And they're already making almost inside jokes with each other. You know, like just a fun, fun thing.

[Jeffrey]

Now anytime any song comes on the radio, you can be like, oh, yeah, this is my favorite drummer, Willington Drummerson, you know, whatever.

[Jeff]

Well, clearly the vibes are there, so keep taking us through how the rest of the date goes.

[Graham]

It just kept getting better. I mean, our sense of like, humor was just so, like simpatico, I guess, to use that word. Like at one point she had like some lipstick on her front teeth.

[Brooke]

Uh huh.

[Graham]

So I started like signaling and rubbing on my own front teeth.

[Brooke]

Good, I'm glad you told her.

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[Graham]

And she just looks at me, she goes, what, are you having a stroke?

[Jeffrey]

Just rubbing your tongue on your teeth?

[Graham]

Exactly. I was just laughing so much. And then.

[Jeffrey]

That was fun.

[Graham]

Oh yeah, it was. It went so well.

[Brooke]

Oh my God.

[Jeff]

Sounds like it.

[Brooke]

Why are you calling us for help then? Like, I don't get it. How could this have ended poorly?

[Graham]

Well, that's the thing. It didn't really end poorly. When we said goodbye, she just came up to me and gave me like a really long, tight hug.

[Brooke]

Oh, that's nice.

[Jeffrey]

Some of those are nice.

[Graham]

Exactly. And she says we have to definitely do this again.

[Jeff]

Oh, that's nice.

[Brooke]

That seems so sincere.

[Graham]

I've texted her twice. One time to see if she wanted to go out for coffee. The second time to see if she wanted to go do a trivia night. Because I think she'd be great at that.

[Jeffrey]

Wait, how long did you wait before you texted her? Was this like 30 minutes after the date or was this a couple days?

[Graham]

I waited two days.

[Brooke]

I think that's good.

[Alexis]

That's too long.

[Brooke]

I think when you have a connection like that with someone that you just go with it. You just follow.

[Alexis]

You don't gotta play the game of like, waiting.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, so that extra day, that's what blew it, that you took too long.

[Jeff]

Have you not. At a certain point, you just gotta grab your luggage and move in with it. Sounds like so connected.

[Brooke]

Have you not heard from her at all?

[Graham]

Well, that's the thing is like when I was texting her, she did reply, but she said that she was busy. And the worst part was, like, she didn't offer an alternative time or date or anything like that. It was, no, I'm busy, I can't.

[Brooke]

I mean, sometimes these free spirits, they really suck at text.

[Jeff]

I mean, Alexis, if you wanted to see a guy, would you tell him, like, I'm just busy, or would you offer up a little bit more?

[Alexis]

Oh, I would offer something else. I'd probably over offer, honestly. I'd probably mention all the times I'm free.

[Brooke]

How many times would you apologize for being busy?

[Alexis]

A lot.

[Brooke]

In all caps.

[Jeff]

It is odd that she leaves it at just I'm busy and no explanation and no other follow up to it.

[Graham]

Exactly.

[Jeff]

That could feel like that. She's trying to brush you off. I understand.

[Brooke]

And you guys had such a thing happening. It's just hard to imagine she wasn't right there with you feeling the exact same thing.

[Jeff]

Well, maybe it was the fact that you made her pay for the dinner that night.

[Jeffrey]

You made her pay?

[Jeff]

I'm just assuming.

[Graham]

Did you?

[Jeffrey]

Wait, how did the.

[Graham]

No, no, no. I am a proper gentleman. I paid for everything. I just need you. I need you guys to find out for me how the hell did I blow this.

[Brooke]

No, we're gonna find for you how to keep it going. Because I've got faith in this one.

[Jeff]

Because we don't even know that you blew it. It could be something totally unrelated.

[Brooke]

I am so excited to get her on the phone.

[Jeff]

All right, well, let's find out. We're gonna come back, call Aura, and try and get you your second date update coming up right after this. Okay?

[Graham]

Thank you.

[Jeff]

All right, man, hold on.

[Brooke (Ad Segment)]

Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Second date update.

[Jeff]

Whenever I'm stuck on hold with customer service for four straight hours. And the automated message keeps replaying over and over saying, we're busy right now, but don't go anywhere. Your call's very important to us. We're just busy. Yeah, I believe them.

[Brooke]

Oh, you do?

[Jeff]

They really, really care.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, we're not understaffed.

[Brooke]

Yeah, I'm sure they're not a break somewhere.

[Jeff]

But the thing is, if you're on the other end of a potential relationship with somebody you really like and you get to. Sorry, I'm just busy right now. In a rows, it's hard not to be a little bit skeptical and feel like you're being blown off.

[Brooke]

Yeah, especially when they don't say, hey, press number nine for a different day to date me.

[Jeff]

Exactly. And that's where our listener Graham is. After a really good date at a jazz bar with a girl named Aura, he has turned to us because those two busies just aren't equaling a second meetup.

[Brooke]

And they're not equally the vibe that they had going when they were hanging out. It just sounds so good.

[Alexis]

I can't believe we haven't said it sooner, but negative aura points for her.

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Jeff]

Graham. I mean, before we call her here, how you feeling?

[Graham]

I'm feeling a little nervous, to be honest.

[Jeffrey]

But how's your aura?

[Brooke]

I mean, I get it. I'm feeling nervous for you. I mean, you just sound so excited, and I want this to happen for you. I think we all do.

[Jeffrey]

Everything sounded so good. I don't want to put this out there, but it has to be shocking. Like, whatever the excuses you're not going to see, like, oh, wow, I didn't think of that. There's nothing that has gone wrong.

[Jeff]

We can change that right now. Let's see if something went wrong. I'm gonna dial her number right now. Hopefully she picks up the phone. Here we go.

[Jackie]

Hello?

[Jeff]

Hey, is this Aura?

[Jackie]

Yes.

[Aura]

Who's this?

[Jeff]

Okay, this is. We're a radio show. We're called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning.

[Brooke]

Hi, Ora. The whole show's here.

[Jeff]

Thanks for being with us.

[Aura]

Okay. Hi. I didn't. I don't think I signed up for anything. I don't.

[Jeff]

Yeah, no, you didn't. But one of our listeners kind of signed you up for something called a second date update.

[Aura]

Okay.

[Jeff]

So if you're not familiar with that, it's a segment that we do on our show where we try to help people who've gone out with somebody one time, but they're not getting that second meetup and they're not sure why? We can call and try to figure out if there's a reason for it.

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Jeff]

Does that make sense?

[Aura]

Yeah, I guess.

[Brooke]

We know you're really busy, so we won't keep you.

[Jeff]

That's what we've heard.

[Jeffrey]

We're really good at these, by the way. We'll be efficient. Okay. We'll get through this.

[Jeff]

Because we're calling about a guy that you went out with recently named Graham.

[Aura]

I'm sorry, I'm like, super confused. Like, what is this great question.

[Jeff]

Well, yeah, that's the thing is we spoke to Graham about your date and we're just trying to figure out if there's a reason that the two of you haven't gone out again. Because you keep saying to him that

[Brooke]

you're busy but not offering any solutions on when to meet up.

[Aura]

Yeah, I mean, I, Like, I already texted him. Like I said I was busy during the times he wanted to hang out.

[Jeff]

I think in his mind, when you say I'm busy, that's just like. It can be a word that people use to brush somebody off if you're not actually wanting to see them, but you don't want to come off as being rude.

[Aura]

Like, I meant what I said. I'm just really busy.

[Brooke]

Okay, okay, but there's no way. I mean, like, I'm sorry, we're all really busy, but like, when you meet somebody that you feel like you have this crazy connection with, you'll make time for them.

[Aura]

Yep, but I'm not like canceling my plans. Like, I know we're not.

[Jeff]

We're not asking you to do that, but he just asked us to call because it was unclear to him if you actually wanted to meet us up. But it's.

[Jackie]

What's unclear, I'm saying.

[Aura]

Okay, but I am busy.

[Brooke]

Okay, I'm clear if you like, I. I'm honestly still unclear whether you actually like him or not.

[Aura]

I like him, but, like, I don't understand why. Like, he needs a third party interjecting. That's like I said that I'm free. I'm. I'm just busy. During the times he mentioned.

[Jeff]

Gotcha, I hear you. And I don't want to be the third party interjecting whatsoever. In fact, wants.

[Sophia Bush]

I'm scared.

[Aura]

Just like, weird.

[Jeff]

Well, no, listen, Graham is actually the one I want you to talk to and it's perfect cuz he's right here on the other line, listening, waiting to jump in.

[Graham]

Hey, Ora.

[Aura]

What? I'm so confused. Like, what is happening?

[Jackie]

What's.

[Aura]

Like, what's the Deal with these, like, jobbers you hired to, like, will be about us.

[Brooke]

Jabbers or jobbers.

[Jeff]

You said jobbers.

[Jackie]

Jobbers.

[Aura]

I called you jobbers. I don't know what you guys, like.

[Jeff]

We are employed.

[Alexis]

Is it like, a yapper?

[Jeff]

Okay, Graham, why don't you talk to her?

[Graham]

Yeah, I didn't. I didn't hire them. It's just a radio show, and they, you know, help people get in touch if they're having trouble getting together, so.

[Aura]

Yeah, but like I told you, I was busy a couple of times. Like, don't you think it's a little extreme to, like, go on a radio station and honestly, whoever that guy was I've been talking to, like, did not seem prepared at all. He didn't know what I was talking about. And he, like, tried to nail down a date for you.

[Jeffrey]

Are you talking about Jeff?

[Brooke]

That's fine. Sometimes people need a common enemy. Can it come together? She's pretty guilty.

[Jeff]

Honestly, I'm with her. I wasn't doing a very good job. That was pretty crap. I'd give myself a D. I don't

[Brooke]

want you to feel bad, or can't you think of this as, like, a kind of a romantic gesture? Like, he really wants to see you, and he went to all this effort.

[Aura]

No, it's super weird.

[Bowen Yang]

Okay, well, that's okay.

[Jeffrey]

I said you guys had so much chemistry. I feel like you're so angry right now.

[Brooke]

Does this feel like the same person you went out with, Graham?

[Graham]

Well, maybe not a little bit, but you guys have been kind of grilling her pretty hard.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, I mean, master Regular questions.

[Brooke]

We can take the fall.

[Graham]

Yeah, no, no, no. That's okay. I mean, your intentions are great, and that's fine.

[Jeffrey]

Well, so are yours, bro.

[Jeff]

I did have some bad intentions when I dialed. I'll be honest. I brought some negative energy into this, and that's my fault. Negative aura. That's right.

[Jeffrey]

You are so guilty, and you shouldn't be.

[Brooke]

Aura. Is there anything we can do to come back from putting you out or making you feel weird?

[Jackie]

Like you keep saying, you can stop

[Aura]

asking me questions, and he can just ask me out. How about that?

[Brooke]

Okay.

[Jeff]

Okay.

[Alexis]

All right.

[Graham]

I think that's perfect. That's perfect. I'd love to hang out. And how about this weekend? Are you free, like, on Friday?

[Aura]

I'm busy Friday.

[Jeffrey]

See, I knew it.

[Brooke]

Okay, okay. Keep going, girl.

[Graham]

Well, how about Saturday then?

[Aura]

I've got something that day. But, like, you should. And you probably need to know this, but I'm in, like, two other Situationships.

[Alexis]

Oh, that's why you're so busy.

[Jeff]

Oh, that's okay.

[Graham]

Well, now we know why she's so busy.

[Brooke]

Oh, Graham. I'm sorry.

[Jeff]

Is that okay with you, Graham?

[Graham]

Well, let me ask you. You said you're already in two situations, so. Really? What does that mean?

[Aura]

It means a lot of fun.

[Jeffrey]

Wow.

[Brooke]

Finally softened up.

[Graham]

Do you even have time for me then, or what?

[Aura]

I'm free Sunday afternoon. Like, I can squeeze you in.

[Brooke]

Oh, wow, how romantic.

[Graham]

Hey, I'm not really sure if I want to be squeezed in between two other dudes.

[Aura]

I mean, beggars can't be choosers here. Like, you're the one who's late to the party. But it's still a party.

[Jeff]

Okay, she's clearly not rejecting you. But. But you're gonna.

[Brooke]

But she's offering you not much.

[Aura]

Yeah, I'm single. Like, I don't have to, like, kind of be you.

[Brooke]

You're kind of single.

[Jeff]

I think we're all jealous of you are, if anything. So.

[Brooke]

I don't know. I think. Graham. I don't know. Graham, I feel like you deserve more than this.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, you do. Well, I don't.

[Graham]

Look, guys, I think I should just go with my gut and say, you only live once and let's do it.

[Aura]

Okay.

[Brooke]

Bring it back.

[Aura]

Yolo.

[Jeff]

So you're open to a possible third situationship with Orc?

[Graham]

Well, I mean, if the third situationship goes so well, maybe they'll just turn into a single situationship.

[Brooke]

Okay.

[Jeff]

Really optimistic. Good for you.

[Aura]

I mean, that's the point of, like, dating. Like, you're supposed to, like, try new things and see what sticks.

[Brooke]

Okay, that's true.

[Jeff]

Yeah. Well, great. Now we're running out of time here, so I'm just curious, though. Or if he does go through with this, does that put him, like, in the third seat, like, the last place guy? Or does he need to do a trial run? And does he have to meet the other guys?

[Jeffrey]

Is there a Google Doc?

[Brooke]

Why would they meet the other guy?

[Jeff]

I don't know how it works with this.

[Jackie]

That's so weird. No.

[Aura]

Okay, so if it works out, it works out. And if it doesn't, we had fun.

[Jeff]

Okay, great. I just want to be clear that we're setting our guy up for success here, so we would like to offer to send you guys out on a date, and we would pay for it.

[Aura]

I. Yeah, I mean, I'm down. Thank you.

[Brooke]

Not the grand romantic ending I was hoping for, Graham, but a lot more realistic. Yeah, you know,

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[Jeff]

Oh, was that like the ickiest yes that we've ever gotten to a second date ever.

[Brooke]

It's not where I wanted things to end, I'll tell you that.

[Jeff]

Yeah, but. But at least we got an answer to why she was busy.

[Alexis]

And.

[Brooke]

And I guess it's clear to Graham what he's walking into, right? Like there's no mystery here anymore.

[Jeff]

I don't know if it is really clear because we never really asked whether the like situationships know about each other or how serious they really were with anything.

[Brooke]

She seems pretty blunt, Jeff.

[Jeff]

I mean she seems like she enjoys it for sure. Yeah, it's the one thing that made her her smile during that entire call

[Brooke]

and get like a weird sexy voice thing.

[Jeff]

How can you not when you're thinking about your harem of guys waiting for you? But I just have a feeling our boy Graham isn't gonna be happy settling for Sunday afternoon hangouts.

[Brooke]

Now he's Sunday boy.

[Alexis]

Now he's a pretty positive person he might be okay with.

[Jeff]

Might end in a four way marriage if it goes well enough.

[Brooke]

Sweet.

[Jeff]

So good for you, Graham. Keep us updated. But if you want help with your dating life, you can always email the show. So we'll call that person who isn't calling you back and go check out all of our second dates, wherever you get your podcasts at. Brooke and Jeffrey.

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[Jeff]

What's the perfect setting to have a romantic first kiss? Maybe during a candle at dinner or on a moonlit walk down the beach or under the flickering fluorescent light in stall four, if you St. John's Truck

[Jeffrey]

Stop, there's a light flickering like one of those fly zappers.

[Brooke]

It's a romantic part.

[Jeff]

Setting the mood. Yeah, I'm just saying everyone has a different idea of what that perfect moment looks like. Okay, but for one of our listeners, her first kiss happened out in broad daylight, probably with children watching.

[Brooke]

Oh, wait, wait.

[Jeff]

And even though they arranged a second meetup, that meetup never happened. It's like stall number four all over again. So we're gonna do everything in our power to get to the bottom of it in your second date update right after this.

[Brooke (Ad Segment)]

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[Jeff]

We've all heard of dating ultimatums where they put it all on the line and say, either you put a ring on it or I'm gone. Okay, you have to pick. Is it me or your mom?

[Brooke]

Oh, my God.

[Jeff]

You can't have both.

[Brooke]

You're going to get dumped every time. On both of those occasions, I feel

[Jeff]

like, well, if they really love you, they'll choose you. But it is pretty rare to give yourself a dating ultimatum. What, like, that's it? If I don't find somebody by August, I'm just marrying my weighted blanket and calling it a life.

[Brooke]

Well, there could be worse options. That weighted blanket, really?

[Jeff]

It really knows how to, like, hug you the right way. But I bring it up because one of our listeners says she's on the precipice of giving up on dating forever unless we can make this call work.

[Brooke]

That is so much on us. Why would you do that to us, Jackie?

[Graham]

Is that right?

[Jackie]

Yeah, that's completely right.

[Brooke]

Okay, Jackie, don't come in all cheerful like you weren't just doomsday in that. Yeah, in that moment.

[Jackie]

No, this isn't. I'm not cheerful. I'm just letting you know that if this doesn't work out, I'm done. I am done.

[Alexis]

Have you heard how this segment goes? The odds Aren't very high in your favor.

[Jackie]

Yeah, I'm that desperate. I'm with you guys.

[Jeff]

Oh, okay.

[Brooke]

Well, you know what? We're all starting off on the same page, so. Yeah, I'm feeling more confident.

[Jeff]

Starting at rock bottom can only go up from here. Let's begin by learning the name of the guy that you met recently.

[Jackie]

The guy's name is Steve. We went on a date, like, last Thursday.

[Jeffrey]

Thursday.

[Brooke]

And is there something that stood out about Steve, or was it just not horrible and that's why you're okay with it?

[Jackie]

Well, yeah, pretty much. In the last couple months, I've been trying to say yes to anyone that asked me out.

[Brooke]

Oh, wow.

[Jeff]

Okay. Cast a wide net sort of thing.

[Jackie]

Yeah, I'm putting myself out there.

[Brooke]

Okay. Like everybody tells you to, Right?

[Jackie]

And most of them have been, eh, okay. But with Steve, it was actually a really good date.

[Jeff]

Oh, all right.

[Brooke]

I mean, I could even see the hope in your voice when you say that.

[Jeff]

Yeah, not super hopeful, just, like, not the worst thing ever. So where was that date?

[Jackie]

It was really fun. We went to a farmer's market, and we were just walking around, like, sampling the foods and talking, laughing and having fun for it was, I don't know, hour and a half.

[Brooke]

Okay, okay, this is good. It's a day date. Nobody's, like, drinking too much. I mean, did you meet there?

[Jackie]

Yes, we met at the farmer's market, and then at the end, he walked me back to my car. And, you know, normally I don't kiss someone on the first date, especially a day date, but the connection was really strong.

[Brooke]

So you had a cute first kiss after a farmer's market date?

[Jackie]

Yes. And then he looked me in the eyes and said, I had a really great time and I want to see you again soon.

[Aura]

Why did you keep hanging out after

[Jeffrey]

that first kiss of death?

[Jeff]

You don't want eye contact when that happens.

[Brooke]

What, you want to look away in shame? Don't look at me.

[Jeff]

Yeah, that's something.

[Brooke]

Of course you want eye contact. Eye contact is so intimate and nice.

[Jeff]

Exactly.

[Brooke]

You believed him, right?

[Jackie]

I did. And I told him that I had an amazing time and I would love to see him again.

[Jeff]

And there it is again.

[Brooke]

What?

[Jeff]

It's too much.

[Jackie]

I didn't do anything.

[Brooke]

Not too much. He said, I want to see you again. She said, I want to see you again. That's not too much.

[Jeff]

I can see how maybe you would think that, but for a guy saying, I really like you, it's the most terrifying thing in the world.

[Jackie]

He said, that to me.

[Jeff]

Yeah, but you're not supposed to say it back to him.

[Jackie]

Oh, my God, Jeff.

[Brooke]

What are you, 14?

[Jeff]

Brooke, I've done enough of these to know how to play the game. And being honest and open with how you really feel is the absolute worst thing you can do.

[Brooke]

See, I disagree.

[Jackie]

That was not the problem. Because that same day, he texts me and he said, Sunday. Does that work? I'll pick you up for dinner, and maybe we can grab a drink after.

[Jeff]

Okay, I stand corrected. Possibly.

[Brooke]

Thank you. So what happened Sunday?

[Jackie]

So I texted back, Yes, 100. I'm in, and gave him a little high five emoji. And on Saturday, he texts me and says, hey, I'm gonna have to cancel on Sunday. Sorry.

[Brooke]

Okay. Did he try to reschedule?

[Jackie]

No, he didn't say anything else. Doesn't explain nothing. And so I just texted back, no problem. Let's figure out another time.

[Jeff]

Did he respond to your.

[Aura]

No.

[Jackie]

No response.

[Brooke]

Steve, come on, Steve. How many days has that been?

[Jackie]

It's been a week now. Okay, but here's the thing. So this is the only guy that I've connected with. Like, and now he's ghosting me. I mean, it's so unbelievably frustrating.

[Brooke]

I mean, it sounds like you're doing this not just for Steve, but to make up for every other bad thing that has happened in your dating life. Like, you need this to go right,

[Jackie]

And I really just want to know why. I mean, like, what happened?

[Brooke]

Right.

[Jeff]

Well, you said it's been a week. Maybe he's learned something about you in between that period of time? Like, you don't have to answer this, but have you served time in prison?

[Brooke]

That could be hot, though. I mean, if it's for the right crime. Yeah.

[Jeff]

Like, even, like, a minor.

[Jackie]

No, I have not.

[Jeffrey]

Okay.

[Jeff]

No prison. Is there anything that's available online to the public that somebody could come across and might be like, oh, God, this is a red flag.

[Jackie]

Seriously? There's nothing that I can think of.

[Brooke]

Okay, okay.

[Graham]

All right.

[Jeff]

Well, this is definitely a mystery.

[Brooke]

Maybe he just had a bad reaction to the baba ganoush you guys had at the farmer's market. Wasn't able to recover.

[Jeff]

I don't even know what that is.

[Alexis]

Is that your food of choice market?

[Brooke]

I don't know. I was just at a hummus stand last weekend. So hot.

[Graham]

Yes.

[Jeff]

So let's come back.

[Jeffrey]

We're gonna definitely got kisses from her husband after that.

[Jeff]

Oh, totally. We're gonna come back and call Steve for you here and hopefully get an Explanation for why he isn't arranging a second date. Or let you give up on dating forever. Oh, that's what she wants.

[Brooke]

Yeah, no, you're right.

[Jackie]

You might. No, that's where I'm at. I'm serious. I am done.

[Brooke]

All right, well, I'm hopeful.

[Jeff]

Yes. Let's push you back from the cliff. And when we get your second date update, right after this. Hold on.

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[Jeff]

Today, the entire future of a woman's dating life lies inside of our tender throats.

[Brooke]

Oh, no. Our throats.

[Jeff]

Yeah, because if we don't say the right thing and get Steve to agree to another date, Jackie has already said she is ready to give up on finding love forever.

[Alexis]

No pressure.

[Brooke]

You definitely don't need to tell Steve this.

[Graham]

No.

[Jeff]

Yeah, but I'm sure that won't happen anymore. Anyway. Because they went to a farmer's market.

[Jackie]

Hot, you know, sober.

[Jeff]

Walked around, had a great eye contact the whole time. Soup's hot.

[Jackie]

See?

[Brooke]

Hot. And organic.

[Jeff]

Jack. Yeah, they laughed. Even planned out another date after telling each other they both wanted to see each other again.

[Jeffrey]

That's what's confusing.

[Brooke]

You forgot the great first kiss. Yeah, that was such a big deal. That was like the moment. Right?

[Jeff]

Well, I thought when I said farmer's market, kissing was implied. Cause who doesn't? But, yeah, it was all going according to plan until the day before their second date when Steve texted canceling with no explanation and then went dark. So, Brooke, your thoughts on the situation at hand?

[Brooke]

Oh, God. I just feel like it's not going to be good if he's in a different relationship. Like if he's cheating or.

[Jeff]

Well, hold on, Brooke. How can he cheat if they've only gone on one date?

[Brooke]

No, no, no. Not cheating on her. Cheating on whoever he's dating.

[Jeffrey]

Cheating on someone.

[Jeff]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're saying Jackie could be the.

[Jackie]

Well, I mean, it's just like a day date.

[Jeff]

Jackie, are you cool with being the other woman?

[Jackie]

Absolutely not.

[Jeff]

You didn't say that. We didn't say that. Okay.

[Brooke]

It is good to check. Yeah.

[Jeff]

All right. Hopefully that's not what the situation.

[Brooke]

I don't want it to be that. I don't.

[Alexis]

I hope it's just busy at other

[Jeff]

farmers markets scoping out the best spots.

[Alexis]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jeff]

The best aubergines or whatever Brooke likes to eat.

[Jeffrey]

Is he a farmer?

[Jeff]

Yeah. Does he work there?

[Aura]

He is not a farmer.

[Jeff]

Okay.

[Jeffrey]

All right, all right.

[Jeff]

We've ruled out a couple possibilities. Abilities. Let's just call him and see if he picks up, I'm dialing his number right now. Here we go.

[Graham]

Hello?

[Jeff]

Hey, is this Steve?

[Graham]

Yeah, who's this?

[Jeff]

Hey. Hey, man.

[Brooke]

What's up, Steve?

[Jeffrey]

Good morning.

[Jeff]

You're. You're on a radio show called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning.

[Graham]

Oh, great.

[Brooke]

We're gonna take that without any sarcasm attached to it.

[Jeff]

But I like your style already, Steve.

[Graham]

I can tell what's going on.

[Jeff]

Well, what's going on is this is a segment that we do called a Second date Update. I don't know if you've ever heard of that before.

[Graham]

Nope.

[Brooke]

Okay, keep going.

[Jeff]

Okay. But it's actually a kind of a fun thing that we do where we help out listeners who are confused after they're not getting a call back for a second date date. We try and help them figure out the reason why.

[Graham]

And.

[Jeff]

Okay, there's a woman that you went out with recently. Actually, you planned a second date with her, but canceled the last minute. Her name's Jackie.

[Graham]

I. I don't really want to talk about this.

[Jeffrey]

Hold on, bro. Is this sensitive to you?

[Graham]

I. I feel bad.

[Brooke]

Can I ask, Are you single?

[Jeffrey]

Brooke's dying to ask.

[Jeff]

Brooke says it with so much hope.

[Graham]

Here's the deal.

[Alexis]

Oh, no.

[Jeffrey]

Here's the deal.

[Brooke]

Wait a minute.

[Jeff]

Oh, God. What? What's the deal?

[Graham]

I did have a strong connection with her, but if she knew what was going on, it would probably hurt her feelings, so it's better left unsaid.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, well, I think trying to protect someone's feelings hurts them more. You may want to be direct.

[Brooke]

That's true.

[Alexis]

I think her feelings hurt.

[Jeff]

Yeah, because she was really looking forward to that second hangout. And when you canceled with no explanation. Now she's just kind of confused. She was all excited, doesn't know where she stands. We're just trying to give her a little bit of information.

[Graham]

It's just I had a stronger romantic connection with somebody else, and I didn't think it would be fair to her to continue.

[Jeffrey]

So you.

[Jackie]

Oh, my God, you're so disgusting.

[Jeff]

Okay, everybody. Okay, everybody who's on the call right now, let's try and be respectful.

[Brooke]

What?

[Jeff]

And hear Steve out.

[Jackie]

I can't listen to this anymore. Steve is a cheater.

[Brooke]

Tell him that. Jackie's on the phone.

[Jeff]

Hold on. Because.

[Jackie]

No, he knows it's me. He knows it's me, and I know a cheater when I smell one.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, you smell it?

[Brooke]

I'm sorry. Wait, wait, wait, wait. I think that's my fault. Jackie, hold on.

[Jackie]

On what?

[Brooke]

I feel like I Put that idea in your head. He didn't say he cheated. He just said that he. He went out with someone else and had a stronger connection.

[Jeffrey]

He didn't quite.

[Jackie]

Yeah, but whatever. He was gonna cheat on me eventually.

[Jeff]

Hold on. You're making a lot of assumptions here, Jackie, and I. I know you're definitely hurt by what you heard, but let's give Steve a chance to explain himself.

[Graham]

I spoke my piece. I don't have much else to say.

[Brooke]

Okay, okay, so you're just.

[Jackie]

You know what, Steve? I have more to say.

[Brooke]

Oh, God.

[Jeff]

Oh, God.

[Jackie]

So when we were walking around the farmer's market, and I didn't want to drink some water fountain because it's, like, public and gross, you never offered to buy me a drink.

[Brooke]

What?

[Jackie]

What was up with that?

[Jeffrey]

She's, like, holding on to that.

[Alexis]

Where'd that come from?

[Jackie]

Selfish. He's selfish, and he's probably selfish in bed.

[Brooke]

W. W. Jackie, you are all over the place right now. I understand your feelings are hurt because this didn't turn out how you wanted it to, but this is not the reaction that you are gonna want to have. Have.

[Jeff]

And honestly, I've never made that correlation before with guys not being good in bed that don't buy water for their women.

[Jackie]

Well, you know, you're also a guy.

[Brooke]

Oh, yeah.

[Jeff]

Well, that's fair.

[Jeffrey]

And Jeff loves water.

[Jeff]

I am.

[Graham]

I drink.

[Jeff]

I keep it all to myself. Jeremy, can you confirm that you're a selfish guy? Oh, sorry. Steve, can you confirm that you're a selfish guy?

[Graham]

I don't know what's happening.

[Jeff]

I just. I just want to know what's your take on this whole situation?

[Graham]

Went on a good day. I just had a stronger connection with someone else. I'm sorry.

[Brooke]

Okay.

[Jeff]

Oh, great.

[Jackie]

You're rubbing that in my face again.

[Brooke]

In your face? Jackie, you know what?

[Jackie]

He is. He's rubbing it in my face. He chose a over me.

[Jeff]

Oh, okay.

[Brooke]

You don't even know who I went out with.

[Jeffrey]

You don't know.

[Brooke]

She was probably a lovely person.

[Jackie]

You guys, what are you doing? You're, like, spinning this to make him the victim. He is not the victim here.

[Jeffrey]

It's just a victim of circumstances.

[Brooke]

It's just how dating works. Yeah, sometimes you meet somebody you like more.

[Jeff]

I don't think he's in a rel. Like, a committed relationship with this other person. It sounds like just a casual date, right?

[Graham]

Steve, I really don't think I should say anymore.

[Jackie]

You know what? You know what's really sad? I really wanted to see your basement I never got to see your basement.

[Alexis]

Basement?

[Jeffrey]

Now you're just saying random stuff.

[Jeff]

Actually, I would.

[Brooke]

Did he offer a tour of a basement?

[Jeffrey]

You didn't say yes to that.

[Jeff]

I was kind of thinking the same thing. I wonder what's in his basement.

[Jackie]

Come on, Steve, tell them.

[Jeff]

What is she talking about?

[Graham]

I have a movie room in my basement. And we talked about that.

[Brooke]

Apparently she had a lot of hopes based around that movie room.

[Jackie]

I didn't get to see it.

[Brooke]

Steve, don't say.

[Alexis]

It has a little popcorn maker in there, too.

[Brooke]

I was all on Steve's side until he just poured salt in the wound.

[Jeff]

Salt all over that popcorn.

[Brooke]

Popcorn makeup.

[Jackie]

You know what?

[Graham]

Sorry. It's a dope basement. And yes, I have multiple flavored salt.

[Jackie]

Oh, wow.

[Graham]

That is kind of cool.

[Jeffrey]

You got that ranch.

[Jackie]

You need to go. You need to go now.

[Jeffrey]

All right, hang up.

[Jeff]

Okay.

[Brooke]

I think maybe you just need to work on yourself right now, Jackie.

[Jeffrey]

Let's do a little self reflecting.

[Graham]

Yeah, I suck it.

[Jackie]

No, no, no, no, no, you don't. See, I'm deleting your texts. I'm blocking your number. You're never gon again. And I want you to know you lost out on something really good.

[Jeff]

Really good, really stable type of relationship. So, Steve, I'm sorry, dude.

[Graham]

It's fine. I feel like I dodged a bullet. It's like I'm watching the Matrix in my face.

[Brooke]

Hang up on him.

[Jackie]

Hang up on him. I said hang up on him. I don't want to hear from him. Hang on.

[Jeff]

Okay, Steve, you jump back, you're gone.

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Graham]

All right.

[Jeff]

We dropped Steve.

[Brooke]

Oh, wow.

[Aura]

That.

[Jeff]

Okay, Jackie. Oh, my God.

[Jeffrey]

He is a cheater girl.

[Brooke]

No, don't add on.

[Jeff]

Oh, wow.

[Jackie]

No, no, no, no, no, no. You guys, honestly, it's fine. I know men. After that, he is definitely going to reach out to me. Like, a little crazy.

[Jeffrey]

I mean, that's actually kind of true.

[Brooke]

The little is a different definition.

[Jeff]

Are you saying you put all of that on just to, like, get him to call you?

[Jackie]

I mean, I juiced it up a little bit, but I'm legitimately pissed.

[Jeff]

Oh, that was a little bit.

[Brooke]

I can't imagine what a lot is.

[Jeff]

I know. I'm afraid to see full blown. All right, well, Jackie, after you take your hiatus from the dating world, call us and we can reach out to that next guy for you.

[Jackie]

Yeah, no, I'm going to hear from Steve.

[Jeffrey]

Call him in two years.

[Jeff]

You heard about that basement, right? It is pretty dumb. Okay, I don't blame you.

[Jackie]

I'm not going to block him and then he's going to call me and you guys will end up doing an update update on me.

[Brooke]

Oh that's a bold about your healthy relationship.

[Jeff]

I'm sure the direction this is going to go.

[Jeffrey]

You manifest a lot differently than I do.

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[Jeff]

Was it me or did it feel like she definitely had a plan of attack there?

[Brooke]

What happened?

[Jeffrey]

I don't know, man. She went 0 to 100 though.

[Brooke]

And then she said she like what? Sauced it up, juiced it up? I don't know. She did.

[Jackie]

She had some.

[Jeffrey]

It was all on purpose.

[Brooke]

It was an emotional roller coaster and I'm exhausted.

[Jeff]

The second he mentioned a stronger connection with another woman, she completely went off the handle.

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Jeff]

But oh man, wouldn't it be something though, know if after all of this

[Brooke]

she was right that he did call her back?

[Jeff]

Yeah. Like Steve thinks about it and he's like, you know what? She's kind of unhinged, but I kind of like it.

[Alexis]

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[Jeffrey]

Also, I would have cheated.

[Jeff]

Yeah, she's right on every level.

[Brooke]

The only way Steve's calling her back is if it doesn't work out with the other girl.

[Graham]

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[Aura]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

I mean, then I could see it maybe happening and then it's like a hookup thing probably.

[Jeff]

Sure. It's probably a less than 1% chance that it all goes down the way that she's thinking, but wouldn't that be

[Brooke]

a wild update up?

[Jeff]

It would be, yeah. And I really appreciate her optimism and all of your optimism in your dating lives. If you want our help, we are ready to step in and call that person who isn't calling you back. By the way, go check out all of our second date updates. They're up online wherever you get your podcasts at Brooke and Jeffrey.

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