Second Date Update Classics: Twitchers Not Tweakers + Lobster Lunges

Summary

Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update Classics — "Twitchers Not Tweakers" + "Lobster Lunges"

Podcast: Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Episode: Second Date Update Classics: Twitchers Not Tweakers + Lobster Lunges
Date: September 6, 2025
Host: iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

This episode delivers a "double dose" of classic "Second Date Update" segments, where the cast investigates why two different first dates fizzled out. In "Twitchers Not Tweakers," birdwatching enthusiasm and some unexpected culinary interests derailed one blossoming romance. In "Lobster Lunges," a property manager's attempts at humor (and frugality) during a seafood dinner left his date less than impressed. The tone remains playful, self-deprecating, and quick-witted throughout, with plenty of banter among the hosts.

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Segment One: "Twitchers Not Tweakers" (Starts at 03:51)

Key Discussion Points & Insights

• Mickey and Tiffany’s Birdwatching Date

  • Mickey, an unabashed "twitcher" (birdwatching enthusiast), takes Tiffany on a nature walk.
  • He gushes about spotting multiple rare birds: American Goldfinches, Cedar Waxwing, and a rose-breasted Grosbeak.
    • Mickey: "As we started to walk about the families, I look up and there it is right in front of us: a rose breasted grosbeak." (09:20)
  • Mickey is convinced their shared rare bird sightings are a sign of destiny – so much so that birds stopped appearing when he revisited alone.
  • The hosts poke fun at Mickey’s intense focus on birds and lack of attention to Tiffany herself.

• Tiffany’s Take

  • When reached, Tiffany describes Mickey as a “nice guy, but way too much in his element."
  • Tiffany shares that, after their walk, she actually invited Mickey back to her place, hoping to move things beyond ornithology.
    • Tiffany: "I asked him to go back to my place with me." (15:18)
  • Instead, Mickey wanted to watch a Food Network episode featuring preparation of the same types of birds they’d just seen.
    • Tiffany found this off-putting and confusing: “Doesn’t that kind of not make sense?” (16:13)

• Mickey’s Defense

  • Insists eating birds is no different from eating chicken, turkey, or quail—offering, perhaps in jest, “Have you ever had Carolina rub on a black capped chickadee before?” (17:39)
  • The hosts riff on bird recipes, blurring lines between passion and obsession.

• Resolution

  • Tiffany firmly declines another date: "Yeah, I'd rather go out of my comfort zone in different ways. This is not feeling right to me." (19:07)
  • Mickey quips, "I better not see her outside of a Kentucky Fried Chicken or anything like that." (20:21)

Notable Quotes

• Jose (on binoculars as a date accessory):
  "I think that's always a red flag." (03:59)

• Brian/Mickey (on birds as harbingers):
  "Nature is really in command of everything, and birds are basically their harbingers, and they're the best indicators of things that will happen in the future." (12:21)

• Brooke (on Tiffany inviting Mickey over):
  "Oh, so you actually liked him that much?" (15:27)

Memorable Moments

• The hosts’ incredulity over Mickey’s shift from birdwatching to a TV segment about eating birds.
• Jeffrey joking about offering wild bird recipes on their Instagram:
  "Head on over to our Instastories. You'll find the recipe for oven braised black capped chickadee." (22:04)
• Extended riffing on the ethics and taste of eating various songbirds.

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Segment Two: "Lobster Lunges" (Starts at 23:06)

Key Discussion Points & Insights

• Brian the Property Manager & Stephanie the Yoga Teacher

  • Brian, who manages Stephanie’s apartment building, becomes interested after finding her on social media (via her rental application).
  • He visits her at work (a yoga studio) and awkwardly joins her class.
    • On his yoga struggles: “I'm sweating, I'm shaking... But she notices me.” (28:18)
  • After class, they grab “seafood” at a "really nice place"—which turns out to be Red Lobster.
  • On the date, Brian tries to be funny by posing his lobster in yoga positions: “Look, a downward lobster!” (35:47)

• Stephanie’s Point of View

  • Stephanie is unimpressed by the restaurant and Brian’s humor: “He did all this research... and it’s Red Lobster.” (34:55)
  • The moment worsens when Brian, who invited her, leaves her with the bill.
    • Stephanie: "Dude, he stuck me with the bill." (37:14)
  • Brian attempts to justify this by noting her higher income (gleaned from her rental application), sparking accusations of boundary-crossing and creepiness.
    • Stephanie: “That’s really creepy that you know I make more than you.” (37:52)

• The Aftermath

  • Stephanie calls Brian “ratchet” and says, "No, I'm good," to a second date offer—even if the show pays.

• Hosts’ Reflections

  • The hosts debate whether they were too hard on Brian, but ultimately agree his choices were questionable.
    • Brooke: “He took her to Red Lobster and made her pay... Come on, Jeff.” (42:17)

Notable Quotes

• Jose (on Brian’s approach):
  "Oh, bro, this just made it extra weird." (25:07)

• Stephanie (on downward lobster):
  "Not when I'm asking him a serious question. He's diverting it by trying to be funny." (36:02)

• Brian (on the bill):
  "I know how much Stephanie makes from her application." (37:27)

Memorable Moments

• Brian’s earnest but tone-deaf justification for letting Stephanie pay:
  "I already paid for the yoga class, which I imagine went directly to her, so..." (38:43)
• The hosts losing it over “downward lobster” and stretching puns with seafood.
• Stephanie’s abrupt shutdown: "No, I'm good." (39:53)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Binoculars as a Date Red Flag Debate: 03:51–04:21
• Brian/Mickey’s Birdwatching Date Description: 05:35–10:54
• Call with Tiffany About the Date: 13:13–19:13
• Hosts Recap and Banter on Eating Birds: 22:04–22:41
• Introduction to Brian the Property Manager's Story: 23:06–24:58
• Brian's Yoga Class Antics: 27:03–28:32
• The Red Lobster Date: 34:00–35:13
• Stephanie on the Restaurant and Bill: 34:55–38:04
• Brian’s Confession and Justification: 38:04–38:43
• Second Date Offer and Shut Down: 39:49–39:53
• Post-mortem and Host Reflections: 41:55–42:58

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Episode Tone and Style

• Conversational, breezy, and filled with rapid-fire jokes and good-natured teasing
• The hosts frequently riff off each other, sometimes at the expense of the callers, but generally circle back to empathy and self-awareness.
• The show leans into its low "success rate" with tongue firmly in cheek, savoring the awkwardness for maximum entertainment.

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Takeaways

Both segments highlight how a passionate hobby or a well-meaning gesture can cross over into deal-breaker territory if not matched with social awareness. The chemistry between host, callers, and daters—plus a sprinkling of cringeworthy details—keeps the show lively and engaging for listeners, regardless of whether romance is in the cards for the guests.

Transcript

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[Jeffrey]

All right, your double dose on a Saturday. Welcome to the podcast. It's Crooked Jeffrey, and we're just so glad you're here, really, truly we are. And on Saturdays, we always feature two classics back to back, so you get a little more bang for your buck. Not that you're paying anything for this. No, it's free.

[Jose]

You're getting a lot of bang for your buck, man.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, zero buck.

[Jose]

100% bang.

[Jeffrey]

Thank you, Jose. Okay, so what are our comments before we launch in?

[Brooke]

Yeah, Sean Spedding said you guys should work seven days a week. From a drunk Scotsman.

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He said.

[Jeffrey]

So you know what, Le, you're not invited to this party anymore. Okay?

[Jose]

Yeah, we're whittled down to one day a week, guys, so.

[Jeffrey]

Sounds like he's at his own party.

[Brooke]

He's already drunk, so.

[Jeffrey]

I do love a good drunk Scotsman.

[Brooke]

I'm not gonna lie.

[Jeffrey]

All right, your double second date classics start right now.

Is it a green flag or a red flag if your date brings a pair of binoculars to the meetup?

Wow.

[Jose]

I think that's always a red flag.

[Jeffrey]

Really? But that means they're not spying on you. Cause you're right next to them.

Yeah, I mean, for me, it's a big red flag, but I'm bringing them to with a tub of Country Crock.

Wait, what?

I said it's a red flag. Yeah, totally. But for one of our listeners, it's a giant green flag because they both use them.

[Jose]

What?

[Jeffrey]

Not the butter, just the binoculars. And he claims what they were looking at was a magical experience that bonded them together for life. With a quote like that, you can understand why she's not texting him back. You're going to find out what they did in your second aid update coming up right after this second date update. Sometimes you go out on a date and after you're not really sure if it went well or not.

Yeah, that's pretty common.

But other times, you leave feeling like even though you got arrested and tased, you hit that thing out of the park, barely peed Myself when the electrode went into my leg.

That's actually impressive.

Yeah, I feel pretty good about it.

[Jose]

Just a piddle.

[Jeffrey]

I'm proud of you.

And we got an email from a guy who said this was definitely. Even though he thinks of himself as a boring guy, this was the most exciting date of his entire life.

[Jose]

The best feeling ever. When you're, like, all smiles and you.

[Jeffrey]

Can'T stop rethinking exciting, I can't wait to hear what happens.

[Brooke]

You never get a call back.

[Jeffrey]

You think it peaked. You peaked at date problem.

Mickey, what made the date so amazing for you?

[Brian]

Well, I'll tell you what was so amazing about it is when we first started, we spotted an entire family of American gold finches. Oh.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, no. You're a bird guy.

[Jose]

Oh, goldfinch.

[Jeffrey]

Those are nice birds.

[Brian]

Oh, they're amazing. And it was, like, the first thing we saw, and I was like, oh, my God. Special.

[Jeffrey]

Oh.

It's not exactly what I thought you were gonna say about why the date was amazing was there were birds.

Hey, you're a bird guy.

It just. It caught me off guard.

What was her excitement level at the golden finch family?

Goldfinches.

[Brian]

He seemed to be very interested, but it was even more amazing. The thing about this date is it kept on getting better.

[Jeffrey]

Oh.

[Brian]

Because as we started walking away, I was really. I had been for so long trying to spot, Yes. A very rare bird that you would see around here. A cedar waxwing.

[Jeffrey]

A cedar wax.

[Brooke]

Where is this date happening?

[Jeffrey]

Halfway through the date.

I like the little chuckle to himself in the middle of remembering this story.

This all sounds very, very exciting, Mickey, and we want to hear more, but maybe we need to get a little context first, because we don't even know this woman's name yet.

[Jose]

There is one bird watcher going crazy on the textbook.

[Jeffrey]

Absolutely. So what is your date's name?

[Brian]

Tiffany.

[Jeffrey]

Tiffany.

Tiffany.

[Jose]

Okay.

[Jeffrey]

Did you meet Tiffany on a bird watching forum?

[Brian]

Well, no, I didn't meet her. I met her on a dating app. And, you know, she was a nature lover, but she wasn't like a twitcher like me, which is. You know what someone that watches birds is called?

[Jeffrey]

A twitcher.

[Jose]

Yeah, that's what the official thing is called. That's why it's called Twitter. Or it was Twitter and the bird was the logo.

[Jeffrey]

Twitcher.

[Jose]

It's a twitcher. Yeah, look it up. Google it.

[Jeffrey]

I would say get tweaker.

No, those are the people that live behind your house in Idaho, so.

Well, I know. That's what made me think of home.

Okay. Got it.

[Brooke]

Witcher's Antiquers.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, so you met Tiffany on a dating app. How did you guys get to this bird family that you found?

[Brian]

Well, we met up at a park and that's what was so amazing about it is, you know, we start off with the American goldfinch family and then within 20 yards, there's the cedar waxwing. And it was a perfect example. The yellow belly that fades into the rose colored chest and the beak.

[Jeffrey]

You know what? Wow, I hate to interrupt your excitement.

I hate that you interrupted too.

No, but listen, what I think is cool about this is that it's really good to have a passion and to show a passion off to somebody. Somebody like that can be a turn on even if she's not a twitcher, right?

What a useless comment. You interrupted his bird description to say that?

What else do you want to know about the yellow belly?

No, tell us more. Tell us more about the.

Are you serious?

[Brian]

It was amazing because as soon as it saw us, it started the very distinctive. That high thin whistling troll that it does.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, wow. Can you give us a sample?

Yeah. Did it sound like this?

[Brian]

Oh, no, it's much higher pitch than.

[Jeffrey]

I can't.

[Brian]

I.

[Brooke]

Are you calling us to find the birds again or.

[Jeffrey]

It sounds like it's mating season for the birds. I don't like it.

It might be mating season in here soon if we keep talking about this.

I mean, it sounds like you were super into the birds. Were you able to connect with. With Tiffany? Tiffany, Good work. I'm sorry, I got birds on my mind.

[Brian]

I think she was enjoying the nature walk and she looked great. I mean, she just fit so well into the. Into the background of nature that was right in front of us. It was amazing.

[Jeffrey]

Okay. You described more about the nature behind her than what she actually looked like, but I think.

Compliment. Yeah, I do.

She silhouetted well against the beautiful backdrop.

[Brian]

Well, we were talking about families and everything, but again, this is why I was saying this was like the most incredible date I ever been on. As we started to talk about the families, I look up and there it is right in front of us. A rose breasted grosbeak.

[Jeffrey]

What?

[Jose]

Wow.

[Jeffrey]

All three of the same day.

[Brian]

You do not see these at this time of year. And it was right there and it was just fantastic. And I was like, this is amazing. If nature is assembling for you like that, that is a really good indicator.

[Jeffrey]

One time the seagull pooped on me. I don't know.

[Brian]

That's actually good luck.

[Jeffrey]

The twitcher approves I was with my.

Husband at the time.

[Jose]

Was it an eagle?

[Jeffrey]

I just said a seagull.

This does have moments of romance in it for nature, where.

Yeah, the nature. They're together. There's passion that's shared.

[Brooke]

The breasted bird.

[Jeffrey]

Yes, the birds are singing to each other and that's something. So how did this nature walk end?

[Brian]

Yeah, after a while we went back to our cars and I gave her a nice little hug and talked about how great the day was. And what's really weird is I haven't heard back from her in about a week or so. After we went on our walk, I went back to that area. And the strangest thing was I don't think I saw one bird at all the whole time I was out there. It was like the birds had come for us and if she wasn't with me, they weren't gonna come back.

[Jose]

That's a romantic way to think.

[Jeffrey]

Maybe it was just you went a little bit too hard on the birds.

Not possible.

No. You don't think so?

You can never go too hard on birds.

[Jose]

That was definitely it, guys. But she's an animal lover, so the birds also, I don't think could be the deal breaker, if that makes sense.

[Jeffrey]

No, no, that's true.

[Jose]

You know what I mean.

[Brooke]

I'm gon guess all his dating pics were of birds.

[Jose]

Ah, yeah.

[Brooke]

So maybe she knew.

[Jeffrey]

Let's tell her what's happened since then and that the birds all miss them as a couple.

[Jose]

All right, we're gonna tell the bird is the word, Jeff.

[Jeffrey]

It is. And we're gonna do it with your second date update when we call her right after this. Hold on. Second date update? So if you're just tuning in for the second date update.

Oh, yes.

You know that I'm a bird guy.

Oh, we do.

I appreciate a ruby throated nut hatch just like the rest of us, but that one specifically. Not on the same level as Mickey, who recently took a woman named Tiffany out for a nice little nature hike date. And we heard a lot about the majestic rare birds that they saw during their walk together.

Yeah, he like geeked out over them, which is. I mean that in a positive. Yes, that's right.

He is a twitch. We didn't honestly hear too much about Tiffany, his date, but he claims that she really enjoyed the experience and he thought it was the best date that he has had ever been on. More importantly, the birds agree. They ship their relationship so much that they haven't even reappeared at that park every time he's gone back.

It Was a sign. That's how you're taking it, right?

[Brian]

Well, of course. Nature is really in command of everything, and birds are basically their harbingers, and they're the best indicators of things that will happen in the future.

[Jeffrey]

No, that's great. This is a dating segment, though, so we probably should get to the part where we call about the date.

[Jose]

We still know nothing about the day. Like Tiffany and that's she looked good.

[Jeffrey]

In front of trees.

[Jose]

I know.

[Jeffrey]

What else do you need to know?

But we're gonna have you back on for Brooke Jose and Alexis's podcast so you can tell more about your bird experience.

Say no out loud.

[Brooke]

You know, you could just take my.

[Jeffrey]

Spot on that one.

[Brian]

Okay.

[Jose]

You can take over bird hour on my stream. We have a whole hour.

[Brian]

Oh, I would love to.

[Jeffrey]

Okay.

[Jose]

I'm kidding.

[Jeffrey]

We're gonna stay in touch for that. But let's call Tiffany in the meantime and ask her why she's not calling you back. So here we go.

[Brian]

Hello?

[Jeffrey]

Hey, we're looking to talk with Tiffany.

[Stephanie]

This is Tiffany. Who's calling?

[Jeffrey]

Hey, Tiffany. My name is Jeff, and you're on a radio show right now. It's called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning.

[Stephanie]

Hello.

[Jose]

There's more. There's actually four of us. Yeah, they're gonna, like, make me.

[Jeffrey]

Only half of this room is enthusiastic about making this call.

Thank you. We're just led to listening. It's what people do that are polite in a conversation, Jeff.

[Stephanie]

Wow, you guys sound dysfunctional.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah. Yeah, you nailed it.

That's what you get when you listen to Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning.

[Jose]

We put the fun in dysfunctional.

[Jeffrey]

We're not going to say that.

So we're not just calling to waste your time. We're doing a segment called the Second Date Update because we hear that you went out on a date with one of our listeners named Mickey.

[Stephanie]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, yeah.

A nature walk sounded delightful.

He said that it seemed like you were having a really great time. Was that true?

[Stephanie]

It was weird. It was really weird.

[Fox One Announcer]

In what way?

[Jeffrey]

Because he told us all about it, and for us, it sounded less weird and more magical and majestic.

[Stephanie]

It was weird. I mean, you know.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, we're going.

You just repeated it.

[Jose]

Can we not majestic weird.

[Jeffrey]

I want to hear specific examples of what you mean.

[Stephanie]

Yeah, okay. Well, I appreciate hearing about people's hobbies and passions, but then when it crosses the line into obsessions, that. That can be different.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, are you talking about him being a. What is it called? Twitcher? A bird. A bird guy.

[Stephanie]

Yeah, he's. He's really, like, a little too much into birds.

[Jeffrey]

I don't think that's a thing in the bird community. I'm not even gonna lie. I once had a boss that jumped on a desk with a pair of binoculars because they saw a bird out the window.

[Jose]

Like, my God.

[Jeffrey]

And Brooke still hooked up with that guy.

So it was a woman?

I'm just. There's.

She was my friend.

Whatever.

[Fox One Announcer]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

So that was too much of a turn off for you, that he was too passionate about his hobby?

[Stephanie]

Yeah. I mean, he's a cute guy, like, but maybe he was too much in his element. I mean, I asked him to go back to my place with me.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, wow.

Oh, so you actually liked him that much?

[Jose]

Just like Brooke. Sensational.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah. Bird action.

[Stephanie]

I thought maybe, like, to get him away from the birds, I was gonna maybe, like, have a drink, something to eat, just hang out, like, see if he was different in a different setting.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, that's awesome.

Okay.

[Stephanie]

And so he asked me, hey, do you have the Food Network? Yeah. Why? He's like. Well, there's this episode I want to show you where they actually sample some of the birds that we saw today.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, my gosh. Wait, what?

[Jose]

Breast and finch they eat.

[Stephanie]

Isn't that weird?

[Jeffrey]

Can you eat those?

[Jose]

I don't think. I think they're, like, endangered or protected.

[Brian]

Right?

[Jeffrey]

You're telling me the bird lover wanted to watch episodes of the Food Network where they eat those exact birds?

[Stephanie]

Yeah. I mean, doesn't that kind of not make sense?

[Jeffrey]

I don't know. Come on. Come on. Circle of life. He just wants to know everything about the bird, including what it tastes like.

[Brooke]

On his own time.

[Jeffrey]

Possibly. Or is there a chance that you misheard what he said? We should probably get some clarification.

Maybe it was a joke. You know, that's a funny joke.

That could be, too.

[Jose]

It doesn't seem like a jokey guy at all, though.

[Jeffrey]

Maybe that's why you don't read his jokes as jokes.

[Brooke]

Maybe this whole time he was joking with us.

[Jeffrey]

Let's just clear all this up, because I do need to let you know, Tiffany, that Mickey has been listening quietly on the other line waiting to talk to you.

[Jose]

All right, tell us the punchline, Mickey.

[Brian]

Yes, I have been listening. And, Tiffany, first of all, there's nothing weird about being a twitcher or a bird watcher. Just so you know, the North American Bird Watching association has over 100,000 members in the Northwestern region alone.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, but, Mickey, hold on. Out of the hundred thousand. Whatever. Members how many of those members are eating the birds?

Yeah, like I think probably the four chefs on the network.

Because I think that was the weird part to her.

[Brian]

This is another thing I can't understand. Understand you're laughing about this. People eat chicken all the time to eat turkey. Not a problem at all. Right, that's okay.

[Jeffrey]

I got you. The chicken eaters are the weirdos. We get it.

[Brian]

Okay, before you mock this, have you ever had Carolina rub on a black capped chickadee before?

[Jeffrey]

I don't know. I'm not even gonna lie. That one sounds delicious. I'm gonna agree with you.

Chickadees are tiny.

Listen, have you had a quail? A quail is tiny and they're.

[Stephanie]

What is going on? Are you guys really supporting this? Do you hear how weird this is?

[Jeffrey]

Well, we're just trying weird about it though. He just wanted to watch the show and it was something you guys had connected on. He's just trying to show you what he's interested in.

You're right, Brooke. Nothing is wrong with eating birds in a park. Just. It's basically like an all you can eat buffet. When you walk through one of those.

They were going to bring them home and cook them for later.

[Jose]

Joseph.

[Jeffrey]

Totally normal.

[Brian]

Hey, it's not as weird as you think.

[Jeffrey]

What's the difference? You're throwing. Tiffany just wanted a cocktail in a bar with the guy.

That's the thing is, Mickey, you want a date with Tiffany. She found it a little bit odd that you wanted to consume the animals that you love so much.

[Jose]

And when she wanted to take you back to her place, you were more concerned about Netflix than other things that should be probably involved.

[Brian]

Well, first of all, it's the Food Network.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, right.

[Brian]

Okay.

[Jose]

I'm sorry.

[Jeffrey]

I don't know. I think this guy could give you a lot of great stories and a lot of that you would not necessarily find on your own.

[Stephanie]

Yeah, I'd rather go out of my comfort zone in different ways. I don't. This is not feeling right to me.

[Jeffrey]

I think we're talking about eating animals in the nature too much. I think let's just circle back to the romantic parts of the date.

[Jose]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

Where you guys were talking about things.

[Brian]

Do you remember, Tiffany, when I complimented the red tips on your hair? How it looked just like the red tips on the cedar waxwings feathers.

[Jeffrey]

Wow.

[Stephanie]

Oh my God. So did you eat that bird too?

[Brian]

No, you don't eat a wax wing. Stop it.

[Jeffrey]

That's off the menu. See, you have a lot to learn about birds and about Love Tiffany and Mickey can be your Sherpa on that journey.

[Jose]

He can be your flamingo.

[Jeffrey]

I would call him a hunter.

[Jose]

Whatever.

[Jeffrey]

He will be your guide on the journey of love and bird culinary cuisine. So we would love to offer to send you on another date with him. And we would pay for it.

It.

[Stephanie]

I'm gonna have to pass.

[Jeffrey]

It's gonna be a steakhouse. There's no birds on the menu.

[Jose]

Or salads only. Maybe.

[Stephanie]

Yeah. I don't think we have enough in common and I. This is really all I have to say about it.

[Jeffrey]

Okay.

We tried.

[Jose]

We did try.

[Jeffrey]

Hey man. Mickey.

Sorry buddy. Mickey.

[Brian]

I better not see her outside of a Kentucky Fried Chicken or anything like that.

[Jeffrey]

That's right. You shame her if you do.

[Jose]

A lot of better birds to eat.

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[Jeffrey]

I want to answer a lot of the people on the text board right now because some are horrified at what they just heard. Some want to learn more about it. And for those that are wondering, head on over to our Instastories BrookeandJeffrey. You'll find the recipe for oven braised black capped chickadee and deep fried meadowlark right there.

We do not have recipes for that.

Guidelines. Whatever.

[Jose]

Can I just get like a steamed blue jay? Yeah, that sounds good.

[Jeffrey]

It does you are welcome for that information.

Blue jay is going to be gamey for some reason.

[Jose]

Oh, really? Maybe a cardinal will be better.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah.

Finch. I would go with a finch.

Text in to 78592 your wild bird suggestions that we should be tasting.

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[Jeffrey]

That loved watching birds would also love to eat them too?

[Jose]

He loves them so much. I bet he's like, I wonder. I invite.

[Jeffrey]

He never that he actually cooked him. Did he?

[Brooke]

He just watches them.

[Jeffrey]

Just the Food Network. Yeah.

Learn a lot on these segments. You could hear all of our second dates up on Spotify, Apple podcasts. Wherever you get yours, you can find them at Brooke and Jeffrey.

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Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning.

[Jeffrey]

Everyone here agrees that it's totally acceptable and even smart to do a little background search on any potential date before you meet up with them.

Oh, yeah?

Yeah. You know, a quick scan of their socials. Maybe check out their employment status on LinkedIn. Or in Brooke's case, just ask your mom if your cousin is still STD free.

Jeffrey.

That's the status thing.

I do not date my relatives.

[Jose]

Yeah, he took a shower.

[Jeffrey]

I think he's fine. You guys are the worst.

One of our listeners says that before he went out on his date, he knew not only where she lived.

[Brian]

Whoa.

[Jeffrey]

But also where she worked. And that's how he met her.

[Jose]

That's not good.

[Jeffrey]

He says it's not creepy. And there's a totally reasonable explanation for it.

They all do, don't they?

He's gonna explain why in your second date update. Next. Second date update. A lot of people say dating in the workplace is a big no. No. Yeah, but.

[Jose]

But then more people get married in the workplace than ever, so Brooke learned.

[Jeffrey]

That the really, really hard way. But what if you're dating in your.

Live space, like with your roommate?

No, I'm not saying your roommate. I'm saying, like, in the same building. Building is where you live.

I think that's fine.

If that goes wrong, it's not going to be awkward, right?

Well, I think it's all fine, so. I don't know if I'm the one.

[Jose]

To ask Brooks, like, hump everyone.

[Jeffrey]

I mean, that's the situation that our new friend Brian is in, and I want to get all the deets on it. Brian, what's up, man? Can I call you Dirty B?

What?

[Brian]

Nah. Yeah, sure.

[Jeffrey]

All right, you agreed to that, Brian.

[Jose]

Brooks just jealous because you took her nickname.

[Jeffrey]

All right, Dirty B, tell us about the girl that you met. What's name? Her. Her name.

[Brian]

Her name's. Stephanie?

[Jeffrey]

Okay. What floor does she live on?

[Brian]

She lives on the ground floor.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, okay. She's a budget girl. I see.

[Jose]

Lives dangerously facing the alley.

[Brian]

Well, I would. I would know the budget because, you see, I am the resident manager of the building.

[Jose]

Oh, bro, this just made it extra weird.

[Jeffrey]

That's different than just living in the same building. I don't know.

That's a lot of power that you have.

[Jose]

Yeah, you control, dude.

[Jeffrey]

You can get keys to your apartment and just go in.

[Brooke]

That sounds like something I think of you.

[Jeffrey]

That's not how you met Stephanie, right?

[Jose]

He was in her place.

[Brian]

Oh, man, this is gonna go south quick. Then.

[Jeffrey]

You are dirty, B. Sorry.

[Brian]

Go ahead.

[Jeffrey]

Tell us about how you and Stephanie met.

[Brian]

Well, we met because she's a new tenant, right? I'm the one who showed her the unit. I'm the one who filled out her lease.

[Jeffrey]

And did you. Did you have. Yeah. Did you have a crush on her as soon as you saw her?

[Brian]

Oh, I don't know if I want to admit this.

[Jeffrey]

So that's.

Yeah.

[Brian]

Before she even came in. Sometimes when tenants, you know, they'll all pre screen them, and every once in a while I'll look up their name because they'll be like, okay. They'll pre qualify over online. I. I did see her on social media and I was like, oh, look at this.

[Jeffrey]

You said she was hot.

[Jose]

And you're like, pre qualified.

[Jeffrey]

Basically, every once in a while, when there's a tenant whose name is female and is in this right age range.

The background check, a very, very detailed dive on a background.

[Brian]

You want to make sure that there's a real person coming in and they're not lying about who they are on their position and stuff. A lot of people do it.

[Jose]

Her last status is like. Like, I burned my old apartment down. Gotta look for a new one.

[Jeffrey]

So what was your read on Stephanie?

[Brian]

So, I mean, she looked very presentable. So I'm, you know, we went through the process. She wanted to get the place. I said, great. And then I was kind of crushing on her a little bit, and. And then I noticed on her application where she works, right. She has a couple different jobs. One of them is this yoga place. So I might have. I might have shown up at the yoga place.

[Jeffrey]

I'm with you. Still with you, man. If you know what you want, you gotta go out and get it. I think Ursula the sea witch said that. So keep going.

[Jose]

You're not doing anything illegal here. Just want to say you can legally go to the yoga studio.

[Jeffrey]

How long has Stephanie lived in the building at this point?

[Brian]

This is probably two weeks in.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, really? Quick that you're moving things forward.

[Stephanie]

Okay, well, I'm just.

[Brian]

I'm just going to a yoga place.

[Jeffrey]

So what was her reaction when she saw you in her yoga studio?

[Brian]

Well, she actually didn't really recognize me. She was looking at me, but she wasn't immediately like, oh, my God, Brian. So why would she, bro?

[Jeffrey]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

I feel like you want to avoid your landlord at all costs.

[Jose]

Actually, I didn't think of that, Alexis. It may be the opposite where she's like, oh, my God, my landlord's here.

[Jeffrey]

I don't know. You only met him once for the walk through, basically, of the place and handing the keys over.

That was the reaction Brian was hoping to get, clearly.

[Brian]

So, you know, I'm not a bad looking guy, so it's not like I'm some, you know, weird living in the basement kind of, you know, landlord.

[Jose]

You're in there shirtless with yoga pants on, like, oh, I didn't expect to see you here.

[Brian]

So I'm there, and I haven't really done this yoga before. I mean, I was shocked how hard it was to hold certain poses or even to get into them. So I'm sweating, I'm shaking.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah.

[Brian]

And obviously she sees me and then she. Then she recognizes me. She's like, wait, are you. Wait, don't you. Aren't you in the. And I'm like, yeah, yeah.

[Jeffrey]

She recognized you when you were in the pretzel position, but not when you were standing up.

[Brian]

Right. So I felt kind of stupid about obviously, you know, not being a successful practitioner, but.

[Jeffrey]

Practitioner.

[Brian]

She ended up walking with me back.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, that's good.

[Brian]

And on the way back, I, you know, I asked her if she wanted to get a bite, if she was. If she was hungry.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, so you made them. You made the transition to asking her out on a date?

[Brian]

Mm, I sure did. She said yes.

[Jeffrey]

So she said yes.

[Brian]

We went to dinner, and I felt like it was a fun date. We didn't really talk about anything too deep. We didn't get into any subjects that were stimulating and unique. We just kind of generally spoke.

[Jeffrey]

Can I ask, what type of food did you go grab with her?

Are you worried he's inexperienced with that too?

[Jose]

No, it needs to be hot girl food, like sushi or something.

[Brian]

We had seafood. We went to a really nice seafood place.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, that's classy.

Yeah, it's classy. And you're saying that you guys didn't get into deep Conversation. But I think that that's okay on a first date. Like, what was the vibe? By the end of the night, you.

[Brian]

Know, I felt like we were getting along. We definitely laughed. We were joking about a few different things and I wasn't sure exactly how it was gonna end, so we were walking back. Obviously we're going to the same place, right?

[Jeffrey]

I mean, it's so easy to like.

[Jose]

I forgot.

[Jeffrey]

Come over to my place.

Is this where you pulled out the keys to her apartment?

[Brian]

Let me let you into your place. So I, you know, I wasn't sure if maybe there was going to be like a kiss or something, but she pretty quickly was like, thank you so much for the night. And then boom, the door's closed, curtains of the window are shut.

[Jose]

That's fine, you don't have to.

[Jeffrey]

She's on the ground floor. You always gotta shut your curtains when you're down there.

[Jose]

Did you walk around and look through her windows?

[Jeffrey]

She did the deadbolt, started nailing the door shut. That doesn't sound like the best ending to the night.

[Jose]

But again, it's okay to not kiss on the first date.

[Jeffrey]

I'm actually with Jose on this one.

[Jose]

It doesn't always happen.

[Jeffrey]

Maybe she was nervous.

[Brian]

She could have been intimidated. Who knows?

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that sounds like what it is. We'll confirm that when we reach out to her. And get your second date update. Right after this second date update, we're on the phone with Brian, the property manager. With restraint.

What?

Soon to turn into a restraining order possibly.

Oh my God, I was going so hard on him.

For now he's using restraint and not using the company keys to enter his dates apart apartment.

Yeah, because that is highly illegal.

I mean, giving him a bad time.

[Jose]

We all are. Brian, go on into her apartment.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, he's been a really, really good sport, even though we've been joking around with him. He did ask out one of his tenants though. They went out to a nice seafood place, had a great time. But the end of the night was kind of brief because she just said thank you for dinner and shut the door to her apartment pretty quickly. Yeah, and that was. Was pretty much the end of it. Now he's looking to us for answers.

[Brooke]

By the way, can we just ask.

[Jeffrey]

Real quick, have you not run into her in the building at all since your date?

[Brian]

Well, I saw her leaving once, but she. I don't think she saw me.

[Jeffrey]

With your binoculars, you respond, it's like.

[Jose]

I was in a bush.

[Jeffrey]

She was climbing out, down through the window.

[Brian]

Stop it.

[Jeffrey]

She doesn't use her front door anymore after that date.

Yeah, dude, don't worry, we will talk you up to her.

Yes, definitely. We're about to call her. But I am not going to mention, and I don't think anyone in this room should mention that Brian Ryan found out where she worked from the application because that is not going to come off well.

[Brian]

Thank you.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah.

[Jose]

Even though it was a background check, it definitely looks really bad.

[Jeffrey]

I mean, honestly, if you want to keep up that lie, you need to keep going to yoga, which would probably be good for you. It sounds like your hips are very tight.

[Jose]

Kind of a win win.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah.

On a scale of 1 to 10, how loose are your hips?

[Brian]

I'd give it a nice seven.

[Jeffrey]

Wow. Wow. All right, Keep in that yoga class then.

Just try and get you a date. All right, here we go. I'm going to call her now. Right now.

[Stephanie]

Hello?

[Jeffrey]

Hi, is this Stephanie?

[Stephanie]

Yes.

[Jeffrey]

Hey, Stephanie. We heard you teach a yoga class and we're very tight hipped people over here. We're hoping that we could be stretched out a little bit.

This is where we're starting?

[Brian]

Yeah, why not?

[Jeffrey]

Hi, Stephanie.

We were recommended to you by someone who's taken your class before named Brian.

[Stephanie]

Sorry, are you guys trying to call the studio?

[Jeffrey]

No, no, we were giving your direct line from Brian because we're trying not just to sign up for yoga class, but also trying to figure out if we could get you back on another date with him.

Yeah, we didn't mention we're a radio show called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning. Oh, yeah, Yeah.

I thought that might come off a little weird. So Brian reached out to us because he told us a little bit about the day that you two hung out.

And the lovely seafood dinner that you went to.

[Stephanie]

Okay. I'm curious as to what all you heard.

[Jeffrey]

Pretty simple. Yeah.

To give you a snapshot of it is that he ended up meeting you and taking your yoga class. Then you parlayed that into a seafood dinner date date. And then after that he walked you home.

He said conversation was light, people were laughing.

[Stephanie]

Well, he was laughing.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, okay.

[Jose]

He's a funny guy.

[Jeffrey]

Laughing.

[Stephanie]

Not really. I mean, I guess we have different sense of humor.

[Jeffrey]

Okay.

Okay.

Did you find him unfunny?

[Stephanie]

Yeah, kind of.

[Jeffrey]

Ah, well, that's not good.

Can you tell us what happened?

[Stephanie]

Well, he took my yoga class and it took me a minute to like notice it was him. And I felt really bad for him because he was really struggling, you know, But I gave him some kudos for making it through the whole class.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah. Just even showing up, right?

[Stephanie]

Yeah, exactly. And then he, you know, he asked me out to dinner and told me that he knew about this really nice seafood restaurant and, like, was hyping me up and invited me out. Yeah. You know, and I was excited. All right, so we get to the seafood restaurant, and it's a red lobster.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, hey, my grandpa still thinks those are really, really nice.

Yeah. Sounds like you were unimpressed.

[Stephanie]

I mean, he kept talking about, like, the best seafood. He did all this research online, and they get all this fresh. Everything fresh every day.

[Jeffrey]

Well, but, I mean, come on. He tried. And that's his opinion of something nice. You know, like, maybe he's not a guy who is a real foodie. Right.

[Jose]

And his defense, it was fresh when they caught it. And then they freeze it and they mail it.

[Brooke]

You gotta ask the name of the restaurant before you go on a date.

[Stephanie]

Yeah, I guess. I guess.

[Jeffrey]

Well, you mentioned, though, that he was laughing during the date and you weren't. What was that about?

[Stephanie]

So at one point, I was like. I asked him if it was just coincidence that he showed up to my yoga class.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, you asked him.

What do you say?

[Stephanie]

I did. He got really weird. And he started playing with his lobster and putting it in yoga positions going, look, a downward lobster.

[Jeffrey]

You didn't laugh at that.

That's pretty funny. Just the visual.

[Stephanie]

Not when I'm asking him a serious question. He's, like, diverting it by trying to be funny.

[Jeffrey]

Maybe with the bib on. It comes off a little transition.

Crayfish and the sun salutation. Not funny.

I mean, okay. I mean, he tried to make a funny joke, and. And it didn't land.

[Stephanie]

Oh, my God.

[Jeffrey]

Is that worth really, like, not worth giving him another chance?

Still making me laugh.

I know.

Prawns and mountain toes.

[Jose]

Boy, these shrimp have bad bags. All of them are bent over.

[Jeffrey]

Right.

[Jose]

Am I right?

[Stephanie]

You know, and if that wasn't bad enough, something else happened.

[Jose]

Oh, what happened?

[Brian]

Okay, okay. I. You know, I mean, I've. I'm. I've heard enough, I think.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, I guess you better tell her.

Darn it.

Hi, Brian.

Yeah, Stephanie. Brian has been actually listening on the other line this whole time.

[Stephanie]

That's great.

[Brian]

He's supposed to wait, but that's awesome.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, he's there.

I think he needed to hear it. Stephanie, I want to hear the rest of the story.

Yeah, me too.

Oh, yeah? What else happened?

[Brian]

I don't need to hear the rest of the story. I think I'm good. I think I Got the gist of it. Oh.

[Jeffrey]

Do you know what she's going to say? I would be so.

[Stephanie]

Yeah. Of course he doesn't want to hear the rest of it because he probably doesn't want me to say it on the radio.

[Jeffrey]

Why?

[Jose]

What'd you do, bro?

[Jeffrey]

Did he do something inappropriate?

[Brian]

I didn't do anything inappropriate, okay?

[Stephanie]

Dude, he stuck me with the bill.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, like stuck the bill to your body or.

[Stephanie]

No, like, I paid for dinner.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, Brian, you're the one that asked her out. You're the one that picked the spot.

Yeah, okay, my question is, what's wrong with that?

[Stephanie]

What? He invited me out.

[Brian]

Yeah, look, I don't make. I mean, I get, like, compensation for certain things. You know, discounted rent, et cetera. But, you know, like, I know how much Stephanie makes from her application. Well, no, but hear me out. I know it sounds bad, but she has a bunch of side hustles. She has like, main income.

[Stephanie]

What?

[Brian]

I know that she has a huge.

[Stephanie]

Savings account with anything. That's really creepy that you know that I make more than you.

[Jeffrey]

Well, yeah, I don't know if it's creepy. He saw it on your application to live there.

[Stephanie]

That's why matter.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, it's weird.

[Stephanie]

That doesn't matter. So then that confirms that he didn't just randomly step into my yoga class.

[Brooke]

Can't help you there.

[Jeffrey]

Put the pieces together.

Brian, any comments on that?

[Brian]

Look, I was.

[Stephanie]

No, there's nothing to look at. You're ratchet.

[Jeffrey]

Oh.

Oh, he's a handy with a ratchet.

[Jose]

That's not what that means, Jeff.

[Brooke]

I don't think she still used it right, though.

[Stephanie]

I still don't think so.

[Brian]

I. I was going to pay. I actually had eight. A coupon for Red Lobster that I had with me that I did not pull out. I was like, oh, that's gonna look cheap.

[Jeffrey]

Here's the thing, Brian. If you can't afford Red Lobster, fine, Just pick another date.

[Brian]

Like I can afford Red Lobster. I just figured that she has the means. I mean, I already paid for, like, the yoga class, which I imagine went directly to her, so.

[Stephanie]

Unbelievable.

[Jose]

That's a good point.

[Jeffrey]

He technically did pay you directly.

That is not how instruction works, okay? There's a building, there's a studio. You have to pay for insurance.

Jose, Alexis and I are all on the same page here. You're the one who's on the outlier against Brian. For some reason, I just.

I don't understand.

Devoted and caring listener.

[Brian]

When everything's said and done. I think I paid almost $6 for everything because I had. There was. There was like a rental thing I had. I had water. I had a protein drink at the mat.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, see if anything you overcharged. Charged him.

Yeah.

Stephanie.

Yeah, I don't think that's helping.

Now, before I offer to send you guys out on another date, would you mind paying Brian back first for the overpass yoga class?

[Jose]

You have the money? Come on.

[Jeffrey]

We're kidding.

Well, then let's just offer to send you guys out on a date then.

Oh, and we'll pay for it.

Yes.

[Stephanie]

No, I'm good.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, we didn't even get a chance to let Brian throw down a coupon. Brian, I'm sorry, man. It sounds like we can't get you another date here. But at the very end, very least, would you mind sending us a video of you putting that lobster into downward lobster? Thinking about it, it sounds really funny. We could put it up on our. On our page.

[Brian]

I mean, I'll send you guys a new video, I guess, but.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, he can't afford lobster right now.

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[Jeffrey]

I know we're supposed to talk at this point about the date and the people on it, but maybe this time we should take a second and critique ourselves.

Were we too mean?

I mean, we're trying to have fun and be entertaining and joke around with our callers. That's our job. But maybe is it coming off as like a random roast?

[Jose]

Well, I mean, it's when we all are on the same side.

[Brooke]

Did he not deserve it? He took her to Red Lobster and.

[Jeffrey]

Made her pain like, come on, Jeff.

Yeah, I just think overall we need to be, we need to go a little gentler, a little softer beginning.

I'm kind of going against you now.

[Jose]

Look, these are our listeners. If you're listening right now, you want a second date, you know, we joke around, like just expect there to be.

[Jeffrey]

Jokes, but you also have to have, have a critical stance of what you're doing wrong here. And those are clearly things he was doing wrong.

Those are all, that's absolutely all true 100%. But I, I do think I want to be able to go a little softer. So stick around to hear Jeff go soft. And we're going to put that up on the website. Just make sure you listen to that.

If you want to asking for that.

We're going to get record numbers on our site now. If you want to hear any of our second dates, make sure you head over to your favorite podcast tub and find us at brookeandjeffrey.

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