Second Date Update: Dry Lips & Hands On Hips

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update – "Dry Lips & Hands On Hips"

Episode Date: January 12, 2026
Host: iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

This episode of Brooke and Jeffrey’s Second Date Update revolves around Anthony, a self-confessed first-date pro who never gets called back for a second outing. Haunted by his habit of licking his lips and overly animated hand gestures, Anthony tries to “fix” his behavior on a first date with Amanda—resulting in awkward antics, a memorable "no-armed" hug, and even a wine straw. The team calls Amanda to discover the real reason for her lack of response, only for the conversation to spiral into AI accusations, billionaire jokes, and a surprising outcome.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Anthony’s Dating Dilemma & Overcorrection

[03:30–09:00]

• Anthony’s Backstory: He’s been on numerous first dates, but never secures a second. As he puts it, “I have not had a lot of success with women lately.” (Anthony, 04:26)
• Getting Feedback: Anthony enlists a female friend for a “practice date,” who notes his excessive lip licking and animated hand gestures.
  • “She said I lick my lips a lot when I talk.” (Anthony, 05:22)
  • “Apparently, I use my hands too much.” (Anthony, 05:41)
• Preparation for the Date: Determined to fix these issues, Anthony hyperfocuses during his real date with Amanda:
  • Requests a straw for his wine to avoid lip-licking.
  • Keeps arms at his sides, avoids gesturing.
  • Asks Amanda to flag down the waiter to avoid waving his own arms.
  • Ends the night with an awkward “no-armed” hug.

2. Anthony’s Date with Amanda

[06:12–09:00]

• Anthony describes the date: “I was trying to be very body conscious... I even asked for a straw with my wine... I was also keeping my hands down at my side. Like, I was just kind of bent down and sipped it like a kid.” (Anthony, 07:00)
• On the hug: “I even gave her a no-armed hug, which I’m sure was awkward.” (Anthony, 08:24)
• Amanda’s reaction to the odd behaviors is left a mystery until her call.

3. Brooke and Jeffrey’s Take – The Pitfalls of Overthinking

[02:38–09:45]

• The hosts empathize but joke about Anthony’s extreme measures, highlighting how overcorrection on dates often creates a new set of problems.
• Memorable comment: “Whenever you’re trying to fix something, you usually tend to overcorrect on the behavior too much.” (Alexis, 08:16)

4. Connecting with Amanda – Her Perspective

[12:04–14:13]

• Amanda recalls the date: found Anthony’s straw-in-wine-glass request odd, but theorized maybe it was for sanitary reasons.
• Texting Turnoff: Amanda confesses, “His texts... I could tell that he was not being genuine. It was like, almost like he put it into ChatGPT.” (Amanda, 14:26)
• “I’m not upset, but I’m just, like, really turned off by that because it’s like, I want somebody have deep conversations with me, not like an AI boyfriend.” (Amanda, 15:06)

5. The AI Bombshell – Is Anthony a ChatGPT Creator?

[15:57–18:25]

• Anthony responds: “I was one of the inventors of ChatGPT, so in a way, those are my words.” (Anthony, 16:07)
• Hosts and Amanda are hilariously skeptical; banter about “Chad from ChadGPT,” Anthony’s supposed vast wealth, and why he’d need the show’s help if he was a billionaire ensues.
• “He didn’t ask me to split the bill, so maybe he did start ChatGPT.” (Amanda, 18:35)
• “How petty are we if he is a billionaire or if he’s not?” (Alexis, 18:15)

6. Resolution & Second Date Offer

[18:44–19:37]

• The hosts offer to pay for a second date if Amanda is interested. She agrees, planning to “Google him to see if he’s telling the truth, but I would go on a second date.” (Amanda, 18:57)
• Anthony clarifies: “I don’t actually drink wine through a straw.” (Anthony, 19:23)
• A sense of playful optimism and curiosity closes out the update.

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Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments

• On hitting “dating rock bottom”:
  • “Yeah, welcome to the lowest point of your dating career, Anthony. We are so glad to be part of it.” (Brooke, 04:10)
• On Anthony’s overcorrection:
  • “I even gave her a no-armed hug, which I’m sure was awkward.” (Anthony, 08:24)
• Amanda on text conversations:
  • “It was like, almost like he put it into ChatGPT.” (Amanda, 14:26)
• Anthony’s AI bombshell:
  • “I was one of the inventors of ChatGPT, so in a way, those are my words.” (Anthony, 16:07)
• Hosts’ running joke about wealth:
  • “Wouldn’t you be so rich?” (Brooke, 16:54)
  • “He didn’t ask me to split the bill, so maybe he did start ChatGPT.” (Amanda, 18:35)

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Important Segment Timestamps

• Anthony’s struggles and friend’s feedback: 03:30–06:12
• The actual awkward date recap: 06:12–09:00
• Hosts discuss Anthony’s behavior: 09:00–10:09
• Amanda recounts the date: 12:04–14:13
• Amanda’s issue with Anthony’s texts (ChatGPT accusation): 14:26–15:15
• Anthony’s (possibly facetious) claim of inventing ChatGPT: 16:07–16:47
• Second date offer and Amanda’s agreement: 18:44–18:57

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Episode Tone & Takeaways

The episode is playful, sarcastic, and self-aware, blending empathetic advice with good-natured mockery. It highlights how well-intentioned self-improvement can backfire in the high-pressure world of modern dating—and how communication mishaps can be both awkward and entertaining. Ultimately, it’s a story of perseverance and not taking oneself too seriously.

Final Note: While Anthony’s claims about creating ChatGPT are (almost certainly) tongue-in-cheek, the episode leaves listeners wondering—setting up the Second Date Update’s trademark cliffhanger.

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For Fans & New Listeners:
Expect awkward dates, relatable missteps, sharp banter, and an unpredictable ending—but above all, entertainment at someone else’s (good-natured) expense.

Transcript

[Brooke]

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[Maria Hinojosa]

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[Brooke]

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[Dr. Joy Harden Bradford]

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[Brooke]

The more you listen to your kids, the closer you'll be. So we asked kids, what do you want your parents to hear?

[Alexis]

I feel sometimes that I'm not listened to.

[Brooke]

I would just want you to listen to me more often and evaluate situations.

[Danny Shapiro]

With me and lead me towards success.

[Brooke]

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[Alexis]

Little did we know it would last 10 years. I mean, but here's the thing. Stay out of the forest. You're in a cult. Call your dad.

[Brooke]

This is terrible.

[Alexis]

You guys, stay sexy. Don't get murdered.

[Maria Hinojosa]

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[Alexis]

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[Amanda]

Goodbye.

[Brooke]

All right. We got your brand new episode to kick off the week. Welcome to the Brooke and Jeffrey second date update podcast. And this is just a prime example of overthinking something, you know, taking something a little too literally and letting it live rent free in your head. It really ruined his whole date. But you're gonna hear what that is in just a second. And we always love to highlight you.

[Alexis]

Yes.

[Brooke]

And today we are gonna highlight newbegin. Who said love from Ethiopia. Alexis, stay strong. Being surrounded by old people. Wait, they mean us?

[Alexis]

I think so.

[Brooke]

Yeah, I know. No. Wow.

[Danny Shapiro]

Okay.

[Brooke]

It's because you've been volunteering at a senior center. That's what they're. That's what they're talking about. Totally unwork related. It was about my personal life. Don't worry, Brooke. All right, let's get this new episode started right now. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning second date update.

[Alexis]

If your dating life isn't going well, let's say you've been single for more than a year. You've been on a dozen different first dates, but not many seconds. Where do you go? Who do you talk to for advice?

[Brooke]

I hope you're. You're saying us.

[Alexis]

Definitely not us. Not first, anyways. I mean, we're more of a last resort. Yeah, good point. Okay, if you hit rock bottom, open up the door to the basement and find us down there. That's exactly what our listener Anthony decided. Because long before he came to us, he went to his friend seeking advice first. So I'm curious to learn more about it. Anthony, welcome to the show.

[Anthony]

Hey, guys. Thanks for having me.

[Brooke]

Yeah. Welcome to the lowest point of your dating career. Anthony. We are so glad to be part of it.

[Anthony]

That means it feels great.

[Alexis]

The only place for you to go is up from here. All right, that's the good news. But let's start with hearing about your love life, because you said you've been struggling a little bit lately.

[Anthony]

Yeah, I have not had a lot of success with women lately.

[Dr. Joy Harden Bradford]

Okay.

[Anthony]

All right. I asked a female friend of mine for some honest feedback. Oh, okay.

[Danny Shapiro]

That's good.

[Alexis]

At least it wasn't a guy.

[Brooke]

No, but are you ready for the answer? You know, that's always the question.

[Alexis]

Because that female feedback is brutal.

[Brooke]

If you ask for honesty, you're going to get it.

[Alexis]

Okay. What did your friends say?

[Anthony]

Well, we even did a pretend date during her work lunch so she could kind of see my game.

[Alexis]

Oh, that's kind of smart. Never heard of that.

[Brooke]

Do you, like, role played that you were on a first date with Her?

[Danny Shapiro]

Yeah.

[Anthony]

You know, we tried to do our best to recreate the real thing.

[Alexis]

That's good. Like, now you're giving her the context of what you're actually like on a date. So that's a good friend. Someone willing to practice dating with you and kiss you, even. That's really cool.

[Rhianna Dillon]

I didn't say that.

[Brooke]

I want to know what her review was afterwards.

[Anthony]

Yeah, overall, it was pretty positive.

[Danny Shapiro]

Okay.

[Anthony]

But afterwards, she did mention a couple of things.

[Alexis]

All right.

[Anthony]

She said, I lick my lips a lot when I talk.

[Brooke]

Oh.

[Alexis]

I lick my lips a lot, too.

[Brooke]

That's interesting. I could see that being, like, a weird ick for some people.

[Alexis]

Totally. But at the same time, it means that she was focused hyper on your lips the entire date.

[Anthony]

That's a pretty good point.

[Alexis]

Yeah. So don't take it all negative.

[Brooke]

So you lick your lips too much.

[Anthony]

I do. I do. I didn't even realize that. And apparently I use my hands too much.

[Brooke]

Is that a thing? You can use your hands too much? Like when you talk as I do. We don't. All of us do that so much. We don't have the boundaries.

[Alexis]

Too animated when you talk.

[Anthony]

Yeah, animated. That's. I was going to say I'm a handsy talker, but that doesn't sound right.

[Alexis]

Yes, that's a totally different problem. So you got all that flow feedback. What'd you do with that information?

[Anthony]

Well, I went on a date, and I'm not sure if all of that helped or hurt.

[Alexis]

Oh, okay. Before we get too into the details, what's the name of the girl that you met?

[Anthony]

Oh, her name is Amanda.

[Alexis]

Amanda.

[Dr. Joy Harden Bradford]

Okay.

[Brooke]

Okay.

[Alexis]

Where'd you meet her?

[Anthony]

I met her off of the app.

[Brooke]

All right.

[Alexis]

Okay.

[Brooke]

And it doesn't sound like you're having problem getting the dates, so that's good.

[Anthony]

Yeah, I. I've never had problems getting the first date. It's the second date that's been my issue.

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Alexis]

Something you're doing on the date?

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Alexis]

Right. So, us through how the date went?

[Anthony]

Well, I took her to a wine bar.

[Brooke]

Cute. Nice.

[Alexis]

Good.

[Anthony]

Yeah, I was trying to be very body conscious.

[Alexis]

What does that mean?

[Anthony]

Yeah, you know, just based on the feedback I. I got from her friend beforehand.

[Brooke]

I see.

[Alexis]

Oh, about the. The lip licking and. And hand flailing.

[Brooke]

I got the driest lips on the. It makes mine dry thinking about it.

[Anthony]

Yeah.

[Danny Shapiro]

How.

[Brooke]

How.

[Alexis]

How are you body conscious about that stuff?

[Anthony]

Well, I was very conscious about not licking my lips. I even asked for a straw with my wine.

[Brooke]

You went to a wine bar?

[Alexis]

Did you think about bringing chapstick, because that always stops me from doing, you know, licking my lips. Once you put it on, then you're like, okay, I'm better.

[Anthony]

Yeah, I should have. I should have thought about that.

[Alexis]

Okay. Did you help?

[Brooke]

I mean, you actually put a straw in a wine glass and drank it that way?

[Anthony]

Yeah, I was also keeping my hands down at my side. Like I was just kind of bent down and sipped it like a kid.

[Alexis]

Like you're drinking chocolate milk. Yeah, we don't want to get too handsy with your straw and your wine glass.

[Brooke]

Did you knock it over? That sounds like a terrible.

[Anthony]

No, no, I didn't knock it over, but I don't know if she thought it was weird. Yeah, you know, I was just trying to correct what my. My work friend had said.

[Brooke]

Did you tell her why or no?

[Anthony]

No, I didn't tell her why. I did ask her for help, though, because.

[Alexis]

Oh, no. Oh, how?

[Anthony]

Well, they weren't bringing the bill and I didn't want to be waving my arms around at the waiter, so I asked her to do it instead.

[Alexis]

You had her flag down. Maybe too.

[Brooke]

Seriously, did you tell your friend that this is what you did? She would be mortified, I think, if this is how you took the advice.

[Anthony]

Listen, I was just trying to take the notes that she gave me.

[Brooke]

I know, it's sweet. It's sweet that you're trying and you're trying to improve yourself. Like, we appreciate that.

[Alexis]

And that's the thing. Whenever you're trying to fix something, you usually tend to overcorrect on the behavior too much. Do you feel like maybe that's what happened?

[Anthony]

I definitely think I went too far the other way. I. I even gave her a no armed hug, which I'm sure was awkward.

[Brooke]

Wait, what?

[Alexis]

Bumping into her.

[Brooke]

You just rubbed your chest up against her.

[Anthony]

My shoulder. But ye.

[Alexis]

It Basically, in your defense, I'm sure it was the best no armed hug that she's ever gotten in her entire life.

[Brooke]

So she hug you back?

[Anthony]

She did, but she kind of didn't know what to do. She just kind of put her shoulder back and drove it into mine.

[Alexis]

Oh, so the feeling is mutual then.

[Anthony]

Okay, yeah, it was not the kind of bump and uglies I was hoping for.

[Alexis]

So what's happened since? Because my guess is you're not texting her since you're not allowing yourself to use your hands. Yeah, that's the only problem.

[Brooke]

Just his nose.

[Anthony]

I've just keep my phone down at my side when I do my texting. So I'm not waving them around.

[Brooke]

You're still practicing this no hands thing?

[Anthony]

No, I was. I was joking with that.

[Brooke]

Okay.

[Alexis]

The humor is on point.

[Dr. Joy Harden Bradford]

Charming.

[Alexis]

So how long has it been since your no hand wine date?

[Anthony]

Well, it's been over a week, and I haven't heard from her, so I feel like I said, like, I went too far the other way and I need a redo.

[Brooke]

I think it's a sweet reason. I think if you get a chance to explain why you did that.

[Anthony]

Yeah, you know, but maybe she didn't notice. Maybe it was something else that my friend didn't notice and that's the reason she's not getting back to me.

[Dr. Joy Harden Bradford]

True.

[Alexis]

Could be another thing that you have to work on in your personal dating life, but we're gonna find out for sure. I hope not either. Just make sure your lips are nice and super dry to get ready to speak to her when we come back. Is everybody else licking their lips?

[Brooke]

Yes, I have, like, don't do it. I'm at chapstick immediately.

[Alexis]

Don't do it. It's not sexy. We're gonna be a sexy edition of the second date update right after this.

[Danny Shapiro]

Hold on.

[Brooke]

Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Second d.

[Alexis]

You've heard of bear hugs, side hugs, triple person sandwich hugs, but have you ever heard of a no armed hug? Well, now you have, because our listener Anthony may have invented it during his first date with Amanda.

[Brooke]

It sounds kind of painful. Depending on how pointy your shoulders are, it could be.

[Alexis]

But he did it because one of his female friends told him that he tends to use his hands too much whenever he talks and interacts. So Anthony was trying to overcorrect for that during his date.

[Brooke]

He definitely went to the extreme.

[Alexis]

Yes. Tried to use his hands as little as possible. But most horrifying for Brooke was when he used a straw in his wine glass.

[Brooke]

I mean, honestly. Still no hands, dude.

[Alexis]

Still no hands.

[Brooke]

Yes. I can't even believe you found a wine bar that had a straw. Yeah, good point.

[Alexis]

But he did that because he was also told that he licks his lips too much whenever he's talking. So that was the workaround to not be licking his lips the entire time. He's worried he may have overdone it, but he's brave enough to come on the show and admit his mistakes. And you should be proud of that, Anthony.

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Anthony]

Thanks, guys. I was thinking about it, and I think it's okay if you tell her about all of the reasons why I was doing all that stuff.

[Brooke]

Okay. Yeah.

[Dr. Joy Harden Bradford]

Oh, okay.

[Brooke]

I think that's a really good idea, Anthony. I think that it shows that you're a person who's open to constructive criticism that you're willing to change. Like, I think it's all positive for you.

[Anthony]

I appreciate you guys telling her. I. I just. I'm not very good with words, so. I appreciate that.

[Alexis]

Neither are we, so. This is going to be a disaster. That's why I said try. Here we go. I'm going to use my hands to dial Amanda's phone number. Oh, dude, use something else. That's all the hand play that we'll get for today. Here we go.

[Amanda]

Hello?

[Alexis]

Hey, are we speaking to Amanda?

[Amanda]

Yes, this is Amanda.

[Alexis]

Hey, Amanda. You're on a radio show right now. There's a whole room of people here. We're called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning. Good morning.

[Brooke]

Hi. Yeah.

[Amanda]

Did I win something?

[Alexis]

Absolutely not.

[Brooke]

We haven't had a budget for that in a long time.

[Alexis]

Should have called us back in the 1980s, but no. We're doing a segment called the Second Date Update.

[Amanda]

Okay.

[Alexis]

If you haven't heard that before, it's where one of our listeners has reached out to us after he went out on a date with you, had a really good time, but he's having trouble locking down a second one guy named Anthony.

[Amanda]

Oh, yeah, yeah, I went on a date with Anthony.

[Anthony]

Right.

[Danny Shapiro]

Okay.

[Brooke]

Yeah, I like your tone. It sounds like you're remembering it in a positive way.

[Amanda]

I mean, kinda.

[Brooke]

Okay.

[Danny Shapiro]

Okay.

[Alexis]

Well, we figured there must be something up because you haven't met up with him a second time. And we're just trying to help Anthony figure out if there's a reason for that.

[Amanda]

Gotcha. Okay.

[Alexis]

And he does have a thought about maybe why you're not calling. You may have noticed his behavior was a little different.

[Amanda]

I mean, I think he. He was great. Like, the conversation was good. But, you know, there was a few things that were kind of funny. Like he drank from a straw, his wine and.

[Brooke]

Oh my God, did you about die when he asked the waitress for a straw to drink his wine?

[Amanda]

Yeah, I just thought that it was kind of strange, especially like on a first date, you know, I would.

[Brooke]

I would have assumed because I read a tip a long time ago, like, drink coffee out of a straw and you won't stain your teeth. Like, did you have any thought as to why doing that?

[Amanda]

So one of my girlfriends insists that the restaurants don't clean their glasses well enough. So she always drinks with a straw no matter what. So I was like, oh, maybe it's Something like that.

[Alexis]

Interesting.

[Brooke]

It's a theory.

[Alexis]

It stands out.

[Danny Shapiro]

Yeah.

[Dr. Joy Harden Bradford]

Yeah.

[Alexis]

Dirty wine glasses does explain a lot of Brooks odd behavior. That would make sense.

[Danny Shapiro]

Yeah. I didn't.

[Amanda]

I didn't ask, though. I didn't ask him about it.

[Brooke]

Okay, so how do you get that oaky flavor if it's all washed off? You know?

[Alexis]

I get it. You like the natural tree flavor. So is that that you notice the straw in the wine glass?

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Amanda]

I mean, and then also just like, his texts, I could tell that he was not being genuine. It was like, almost like he put it into Chat GPT.

[Brooke]

Wait, before, after the date?

[Amanda]

Beforehand it didn't seem like that, but afterwards it seemed like that. Yeah, And I can't be sure of it, but I just. I've used Chat GPT enough.

[Alexis]

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Brooke]

I mean, when my friends talk in their Tesla's though, it does that. It does periods after every sentence when you talk out loud. I know, but there's just like a cadence to it. Like, we used to have a sales guy who would send all of his emails via Chat GPT, and they're so cheesy and awful.

[Alexis]

So you're upset because you think that he's been using Chat GPT to help write messages to you?

[Amanda]

Yeah, I mean, I'm not upset, but I'm just, like, really turned off by that because it's like, I want somebody have deep conversations with me, not like an AI boyfriend.

[Alexis]

You can.

[Amanda]

You can order those, actually. But.

[Brooke]

That'S really funny. I mean, I think when we talk to him, it's really funny that you say that, because he did mention before we called you that he wasn't very good with words. So maybe it's just something where he didn't think his message was good enough.

[Alexis]

You know, let's give him a chance to try to use his words because he actually is on the other line of this phone call waiting to jump in and speak with you.

[Amanda]

Oh, wow.

[Anthony]

Hey. Hey, Amanda.

[Dr. Joy Harden Bradford]

Look at that.

[Anthony]

I'm sorry.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

Oh, she's sorry. I know. You guys are so nice.

[Alexis]

Yeah.

[Amanda]

I just feel bad because I feel like I'm. I just. I don't. I feel bad that I said that, but it's true.

[Alexis]

Well, is it true? We don't know that. Oh, yeah.

[Anthony]

I'm. I'm not gonna deny it, but there is an explanation.

[Brooke]

Oh, okay.

[Alexis]

What's going on?

[Anthony]

I have. But you're not gonna believe this. I was one of the inventors of ChatGPT, so in a way, those are my words.

[Alexis]

No, Way.

[Brooke]

Hasn't it been around for a long time?

[Alexis]

This is Chad from Chad GPT.

[Brooke]

Anthony, Chad GPT works by taking all everything on the Internet essentially and learning from that.

[Alexis]

Did you just event like a part of the technology or something? What are you talking about?

[Anthony]

Yeah, I did. I. I did help invent it. I and I.

[Alexis]

So your justification is that because you helped do the codes for Chad GPT, Chat GPT is actually using your words?

[Anthony]

I mean, essentially, yes.

[Alexis]

Well, I use your words a lot, brother.

[Brooke]

Yeah. I'm sorry.

[Danny Shapiro]

Yeah.

[Dr. Joy Harden Bradford]

Thank you.

[Brooke]

Wouldn't you be so rich?

[Danny Shapiro]

Yeah.

[Alexis]

How do we know he's not rich?

[Maria Hinojosa]

I don't know.

[Brooke]

He's calling us for help. Like, don't real people don't listen to us? Don't real rich people, like have assistance to do stuff?

[Alexis]

Anthony, how do you feel that Brooke just insinuated that you're broke?

[Brooke]

I didn't say broke. There's somewhere in between. Jeff, you know, you're middle class. You're not like, I invented Chat GPT rich. I just. I don't know you.

[Alexis]

Anthony, feel free to respond.

[Anthony]

I can neither confirm nor deny, but I can at least say that I have not had luck with second dates and that's why I came to you guys.

[Brooke]

But don't women throw yourselves themselves at you when they learn like that you're the founder, like one of the founding people of Chat GPT.

[Anthony]

I don't normally tell people that because they never believe me.

[Brooke]

Girls Google every guy's name they go out with.

[Alexis]

They'll find out.

[Brooke]

Okay. I mean, I have no reason not to believe you.

[Alexis]

It's more about Amanda. Amanda? What do you think? Hearing that.

[Danny Shapiro]

Good point.

[Amanda]

I mean, I'm also having trouble believing it.

[Alexis]

You don't think he's one of those.

[Brooke]

Like gambles that you want to take, right? Like, what's the worst that could happen? Chad gbt. If he's the founder of does it even change anything?

[Alexis]

Like, how petty are we if he is a billionaire or if he's not?

[Brooke]

Yeah. Do you like him? I don't even date for money. And a billionaire changes everything.

[Anthony]

Okay, listen, I never said I was a billionaire. And you guys are making this all about money.

[Alexis]

And that's my point.

[Brooke]

Does she like you for you?

[Danny Shapiro]

Yeah.

[Amanda]

Yeah, I did like the wine date. That was nice.

[Dr. Joy Harden Bradford]

Okay.

[Alexis]

I mean, that's real Anthony. Face to face.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Maria Hinojosa]

Yeah.

[Amanda]

He didn't ask me to split the bill, so maybe he did start Chat GPT.

[Alexis]

I don't think that means that either. Okay, He's Got. He's got enough for dinner.

[Brooke]

I feel like there's enough here that you'd want to go out and just see what's up.

[Alexis]

Yeah. Do a little investigation to find out what he really does for work. And if you're willing to see him one more time, we would pay for that date. Amanda.

[Danny Shapiro]

Ooh.

[Amanda]

I mean, I'm definitely gonna Google him to see if he's telling the truth, but I would go on a second date.

[Brooke]

Okay.

[Anthony]

I didn't work on Google, so I don't know what that one's gonna say.

[Alexis]

Never trust them.

[Brooke]

Not trust any of it. Yeah, okay. AI Mode.

[Alexis]

But you did. You did agree to another date. So this is successful, Anthony.

[Brooke]

Oh, maybe AI stands for Anthony Intelligence.

[Alexis]

Hey, there we go. Anthony, is that true?

[Anthony]

I can neither confirm nor deny. I do want to confirm, though, that I don't actually drink wine through a straw.

[Brooke]

Okay.

[Alexis]

Yeah, that's true.

[Brooke]

Yeah. We never explained that to her, Anthony.

[Alexis]

Yeah, and she actually didn't mind. I mean, she noticed.

[Anthony]

Well, we can talk about all that on our next date. It'll be a fun story.

[Alexis]

And just wait till you see what he can do with his hands, too.

[Amanda]

This is going to be interesting.

[Brooke]

Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.

[Danny Shapiro]

Hi, I'm Danny Shapiro, host of the hit podcast Family Secrets.

[Alexis]

We were in the car like a Rolling stone came on, and he said, there's a line in there about your mother. And I said, what? What I would do if I didn't feel like I was being accepted is choose an identity that other people can't have. I knew something had happened to me in the middle of the night, but.

[Rhianna Dillon]

I couldn't hold on to what had happened.

[Danny Shapiro]

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[Ed Helms]

Hey, everyone, it's Ed Helms.

[Alexis]

And I'm Kal Penn, and we are the hosts of Earsay, the Audible, and iHeart Audiobook Club.

[Ed Helms]

This week on the podcast, I am talking to film and TV critic, radio and podcast host and Harry Potter super fan Rhianna Dillon to discuss Audible's full cast adaptation of Harry Potter. And the Sorcerer's Stone. What moments in this audiobook capture the feeling of the magical world best for you or just stood out the most?

[Rhianna Dillon]

I always loved reading about the Quidditch matches, and I think the audio really gets it because it just plunges you right into the stands. You have the crowd sounds like all around you is surround sound. Especially if you're listening in headphones.

[Ed Helms]

Listen to Earsay, the Audible and iHeart Audiobook Club on the iHeartradio app or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Alexis]

You know, it's funny that you say rich people don't listen to our show when we literally had the Gates family in here as admitted fans. Are they not rich enough for you, Alexis?

[Brooke]

I wasn't here, so it's been a long time since we don't know that they still listen.

[Rhianna Dillon]

And it was the kids.

[Brooke]

Like Bill and Melinda never came in.

[Alexis]

Okay, kids, you don't count.

[Jeffrey]

I don't know.

[Brooke]

I guess you're right. I got hung up on the money aspect of it, which is not something I typically do. You do.

[Alexis]

And how dare you shame all of our billionaire listeners all over the world. I want them to know that, hey, I see you and I am available for whatever, wherever.

[Danny Shapiro]

Okay.

[Alexis]

Prices are listed on my blog. You will find I will do almost anything.

[Brooke]

Jeff wants a millionaire dot com. Billionaire.

[Alexis]

Billionaire.

[Anthony]

Sorry.

[Alexis]

Overall, though, I will say I am happy that Anthony was able to pull out another date. But if we do find out later that his friend suggested to tell the girl that he's some sort of AI mogul, obviously it works. So touche, Anthony. Well done.

[Brooke]

I just want an update so I can find out if this is true or not.

[Alexis]

Me too. You know, because you can't ask ChatGPT, GPT. Who knows what that's going to say. Listeners can do some sleuthing for us.

[Anthony]

And tell us if they can find.

[Alexis]

An Anthony who created a code.

[Brooke]

Yes, AI always lies to you.

[Alexis]

Yeah, that's true, too. And while you're doing your research, go research our show. Wherever you get your podcast, we're available. Apple, Spotify, wherever you find them, just look up Brooke and Jeffrey.

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[Anthony]

Hey.

[Ed Helms]

Everyone, it's Ed Helms and I'm Kal.

[Alexis]

Penn and we are the hosts of Irsay the Aud and iheart Audiobook Club.

[Ed Helms]

This week on the podcast, I am talking to film and TV critic, radio and podcast host and Harry Potter super fan Rhianna Dillon to discuss Audible's full cast adaptation of Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone. What moments in this audiobook capture the feeling of the magical world best for you or just stood out the most?

[Rhianna Dillon]

I always loved reading about the Quidditch matches and and I think the audio really gets it because it just plunges you right into the stands you have. The crowd sounds like all around you is surround sound, especially if you're listening in headphones.

[Ed Helms]

Listen to Earsay, the Audible and iHeart Audiobook Club on the iHeartradio app or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Danny Shapiro]

Foreign.

[Maria Hinojosa]

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[Brooke]

Whether it is getting swatted or just hateful messages online, there is a lot of harm and even just reading the comments.

[Dr. Joy Harden Bradford]

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[Brooke]

We said, let's do a podcast.

[Alexis]

Little did we know it would last 10 years. I mean, but here's the thing. Stare to the forest. You're in a culture. Call your dad.

[Brooke]

This is terrible.

[Alexis]

You guys, stay sexy. Don't get murdered. Elvis, do you want a cookie? A cookie? My favorite Murder turns 10 this month. Join us for new episodes every Thursday on the Exactly Right network. Listen to my favorite murder on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Amanda]

Goodbye.

[Brooke]

This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human.