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Alexis
You know, Alexis, we have so much in common.
Marianne
Do we?
Alexis
Yeah. Like, we're both blonde. Everybody always thinks that I'm the same age as you.
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Yeah.
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Jeff
Yes.
Alexis
I love having it on a movie.
Marianne
Night with my roommate.
Alexis
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David
Yeah.
Jose
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Jeff
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Alexis
Those people who, like many of us.
Jeff
Weren'T taught about finances.
Alexis
You know, my parents didn't know, but.
Rachel
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David
Can become somebody who creates generational wealth. Or I just sort of end up being in the same hamster wheel that.
Jeff
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Alexis
Or more annoying. They were obnoxious when they're just on social media.
Jeff
Oh, well, maybe that makes sense why we call this one E.W. david. It's our number three second date update. Enjoy. Second date update. We have someone on the phone for a second date update who's on the rise to stardom. She's hoping soon she can influence what you eat, what you drink, what you wear, and what you wipe with.
Alexis
Do we have the Charon there on the phone with us?
Jeff
No, I'm just saying Earth friendly toilet wipes are going to be the next big thing.
Alexis
I just switched to bamboo toilet paper myself.
David
Did you?
Alexis
Yeah, it's a little scratchy.
David
Bamboo.
Jeff
Yeah, there's a little bit of blood on there, but it's okay. Anyway, she's hoping to become an influencer someday, and she's also hoping that we can influence the guy who's not calling her back to give her another date. Okay, so let's say hello to Marianne. How you doing?
Marianne
Hi, guys. How are you?
Alexis
Good. So what does Jeffrey mean? Are you, like, trying to be, like, an Instagram influencer or what are you doing?
Marianne
I am. I'm really active on the gram, and I just really love kind of those people who have this aspiring lifestyle and just really bring joy and comfort and happiness to other people. That's kind of what I aspire to be.
David
Okay, Tracy, you're not petty enough to be an influencer.
Jeff
That's nice.
David
You don't need to care about your look.
Alexis
She is the live, laugh, love of Instagram is what she is.
Jeff
Marianne, before we get into this, I just feel like I need to ask you, are you only doing this just to get more publicity for your page?
Alexis
Oh, doing our show?
Jeff
Because I don't think it would be fair if you did that and we're giving out your Instagram handle just because of that?
Marianne
I won't plug my Instagram handle.
Alexis
Okay, no offense.
Marianne
I don't Know how much our show would help her out.
Jeff
It's a fair point. But let's get into your date. Marianne, tell us about the guy that you met. What's his name?
Marianne
So his name is David.
Jeff
Okay, David.
Alexis
Stop it. You be nice.
Jeff
Okay, I'm sorry.
Alexis
Did David slide into your DMs? How'd you meet him?
Marianne
He did slide into my DM. So, you know, we're on Instagram and he liked a handful of my pictures, and, you know, I kind of looked at his and liked one back.
Alexis
Okay.
David
It's so funny how it's like a secret ritual when you're on Instagram. Like, you like a few of mine, I like one or two of yours, and then that's the opening to, like, DM me without saying anything.
Jeff
It's like a mating dance.
Alexis
It is. And that way, you know, it's safe to write them, because if they go back, like a year and start liking all your old stuff, then, you know.
David
Yeah.
Marianne
Then that's a little creepy weird, right?
Alexis
Yeah.
Jeff
Okay.
David
So funny.
Jeff
So what was David like online?
Marianne
Well, I mean, he's got a decent amount of followers.
Jeff
Is that important? Does that. Does that matter how many followers he has?
David
I think it does for her.
Jeff
It was the first thing that she mentioned about it.
Marianne
I'm sorry, I thought that's what you were asking about.
Jeff
I mean, what type of guy is he? He's an attractive guy.
Marianne
Yeah. I mean, he's good looking, and it looks like he's fairly active and he likes to do things.
Jeff
Okay.
David
She's like, oh, my God, he's super ugly and lazy.
Jeff
I love it.
Alexis
What'd you gu do on your date?
Marianne
So he actually asked me to go to Boba.
David
Oh, that's so trendy.
Marianne
Yeah.
Alexis
And it's so Instagram friendly.
Jeff
Very gram worthy.
Marianne
Well, it's just a really fun, cheery place, but it's an opportunity for us just to kind of sit down and casually get to know each other without a lot of, like, pretense.
Jeff
Okay, so did you treat it like it was a date, or were you treating it more like a business meeting?
Marianne
Oh, honestly, I have to say both, because, like, similarly to me, and we found this out when we were talking before, before we met in person, is that he wants to become an influencer as well. And he doesn't have as many followers as I do, but that was definitely something that we connected with.
Alexis
Okay, so you could be like the Instagram power couple eventually, Right?
Marianne
You know, and it was kind of something we joked about, but then it Was like, oh, this would actually be fun. And we were having a really good time. So we were talking about, you know, like, different things that we could do and different ideas we had, like, actually.
Alexis
Working on collaborations together.
Marianne
Yeah. You know, I mean, when something is so close to your heart and you spend so much of your time and energy into it, it's naturally going to come up to the conversation. So it did that for the both of us.
Rachel
Wow.
Alexis
Okay.
Jeff
Hashtag relationship goals.
Marianne
So he was, like, talking about, you know, an idea to get more followers, and he wants to buy an old school bus and retrofit it for a road trip.
Alexis
I've never seen that done on Instagram.
Marianne
There's a lot of accounts of fans that have done that. I'm so glad you said that, because that's kind of what I said. I was like, oh, that's a cool idea. But I've definitely seen that done on several different accounts before.
Alexis
Was he put off by that? That you kind of like.
Marianne
Well, I mean, he gave me this kind of shocked look, like I had hurt his baby. But then I was like, how much are you really on Instagram? Because that's pretty common right now. So, anyways, we went on the date. Went on. We walked around the park, we took some pictures, you know, as you would expect. And it ended with a little kiss on the cheek. And we took selfies of it.
Alexis
Of course you took selfies of the kiss on the cheek.
Marianne
I mean, you kind of have to. When it's the golden hour and the sun setting, it's like, perfect. Edit him out.
Alexis
If she looks good enough.
David
I feel like their first time hooking up, she's like, okay, hold on, let me grab my phone.
Alexis
I get that. But it feels so performance, right? It feels like a performance. It doesn't feel like a genuine moment between you two. Did you feel like it was?
Marianne
Oh, absolutely. And I think it's probably because we had talked about different things we want to do, and we kind of laughed about it. I've been like, I don't know, how do you want to end this date? Should we take a selfie? And so we were kind of this, like, fun, flirty way to end things.
David
Yeah, well. And I will give you credit, like, as an influencer, whether it's YouTube or TikTok or anything, you're used to having the camera out at all times. Like, absolutely.
Alexis
Like how you look at the world.
Jeff
So after the staged cheek kiss, how do you. How do you end the night?
Marianne
We just ended the night, and I went back to My car. He went back to his heart, and I had a great time, but I just haven't heard from him. The only thing I can think of is me kind of saying the bus wasn't the best idea because it had been done before, but it was such a minor thing.
Alexis
Did he get into a bus and drive away at the end of the day? Because maybe that was. He's like, I'm already in it.
David
Never mind.
Marianne
As far as I know, he did not.
Jeff
Well, we have some investigating to do. We're going to play a song, we'll come back, we'll call David for you.
David
And then, by the way.
Jeff
Oh, excuse me, it's David. We'll call David and then we'll try and get you a second date update. Okay, Marianne?
Marianne
Okay, thank you.
Jeff
All right, hold on. Second date update. If you're just joining us, we're talking to a possible future Instagram star right now. Her name's Marianne. She met a guy named David through the gram. They went out to Boba Tea together, had a walk in the park, took some pics, but now he's not calling her back. And, Marianne, I told you that we would not plug your Instagram on the show, but I never said we wouldn't plug our own. So Alexis is at. Alexis Underscore Fuller. Jose is at Hilarious Jose. Mine is at. It's Young Jeffrey, R E, Y and Brooks, actually, I don't follow you, Brooke. What is it?
Alexis
It's at Brooke.
Marianne
Fox.
Jeff
Fox. Two Foxes.
Alexis
Because, remember, Because I married the guy and he already had the last name Fox. It all makes sen. Okay, you shouldn't have to describe your hand. My maiden name.
Jeff
You want to see a lot of baby pictures and, like, dog pictures?
Alexis
No, I'm very funny sometimes, too.
David
Very funny sometimes.
Jeff
Yeah, Very funny. Baby pictures on there. Go check out Brook. Fox. Fox. Okay. And. Sorry, Marianne, you told us in the first part you were worried that the reason David might not be calling you is because you made a comment about his idea about a school bus. What were you saying?
Marianne
He had this idea to buy, like, an old school bus and retrofit it, which is something that's been done a lot before, and they just thought there was better ideas out there.
Jeff
Okay.
Alexis
It does still sound fun, though.
Marianne
It sounds like a lot of work.
Alexis
The other thing, though, Marianne, you guys had talked about collabing on stuff. Did you have projects, like set up that you were going to work with him on? Because not only is he not calling you back for a date, he's not calling you back for that either.
Marianne
Right. And so some of my ideas I'm a little hesitant to say because I don't want somebody to steal them.
Jeff
Right.
Marianne
Let's just say they're centered around travel.
Alexis
Okay.
Jeff
Okay.
Alexis
So unique. Also some whimsy.
Marianne
I've seen that.
Alexis
Don't be jealous because you haven't gone viral.
Jeff
Alexis is definitely stealing that idea. All right, so we're ready to call David. Are you feeling ready, Marianne?
Marianne
Yes.
Jeff
All right, here we go. I'm gonna dial his number. We're gonna get your second date update. Here we go.
Alexis
Hello?
Jeff
Hey, I'm looking for David.
Rachel
Yeah, this is David.
Jeff
Hey, David. My name's Jeff. I work on a morning radio show called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning. How you doing, man?
Rachel
Uh, I'm alright. What's this about?
Jeff
This is about your future and what it might hold.
Alexis
That's true.
Rachel
What? What are you talking about?
Jeff
I'm talking about a date that you went on recently with one of our listeners.
Rachel
Oh, okay. Who?
Jeff
Her name's Marianne.
Rachel
Okay, why. Why are you calling me about it?
Jeff
The reason that we're calling on her behalf is because we're doing something called a second date update. Right now. That's where if you go out with one of our listeners and afterwards, if you're not calling them back, they can reach out to us and we'll call for them to help them figure out the reason why.
Rachel
Okay.
Jeff
This is a Boba Tea special because Marianne told us that you guys went out to Boba Tea on your date.
Rachel
I mean, yeah, we did. And, yeah, I just didn't feel like we were gonna go out again, so.
Alexis
Oh, really?
David
Oh, she felt different.
Alexis
Yeah. I mean, she said that you guys were even talking about, like, doing some collab stuff for Instagram because you're trying to be an influencer too. And did she get the wrong idea?
Rachel
Well, no. I mean, no. Like, the date was good, honestly.
David
That's good.
Jeff
Yeah.
Rachel
Like, yeah, we got along and, yeah, I thought it was going well, but I don't know, just something happened at the end that just total, like. Because she. You know, a lot of times you, like, go out with some of these Instagram influencers and, like, they're kind of vapid and, like, all themselves and, like, she really wasn't like that. So, like, I was really interested.
Jeff
Okay, so you're saying happened at the end of the date. She did tell us about a stage sunset kiss.
Alexis
Yeah.
Jeff
Is that what you're talking about?
Rachel
No, I do that all the time. That doesn't bother me.
Jeff
Every single sunset he kisses someone.
Rachel
I mean, you know, that's just kind of what we do. Like, everything is for the public, you know?
Alexis
Yeah.
David
You're an influencer.
Alexis
Okay.
Jeff
Okay, so what was it then? So we're.
Rachel
We're talking, like, we're spitballing ideas off each other and stuff. And then, like, she knows that, like, this is what I want to do, and so she said that she knows somebody who, like, could hook me up with a blue check mark for my account.
Alexis
Okay, I will say we all got one of those. It feels good.
Marianne
I don't.
Jeff
Sorry.
Marianne
But thanks for rubbing it in.
Jeff
Okay. She has some. She has an in with the Instagram people.
Rachel
Yeah. Which is, like, big time, you know, so.
David
Yeah, it is.
Jeff
That's cool.
Rachel
I was like, awesome. You know, that'd be great. And blah, blah. But, like, she wouldn't tell me who it was. Like, she didn't give me their contact. It was like, she, like, bragged that she knew somebody and seemed like she was being like, oh, and I could get this for you. And then she didn't give me any information about it. Like, it just seemed, like, super uncool.
David
Okay, I kind of understand.
Alexis
Maybe she was gonna follow up later. Or maybe, you know, like, he said.
Rachel
Like, she's like, yeah, I don't know if I want it. Like, she totally got off the subject when I asked, completely ignored me, and then that's when the picture happened of, like, she kind of, like, tricked me into, like, drawing my attention away.
Jeff
Okay, well, maybe it's like a. Maybe it's like a dating rule type thing where you have to wait for three dates so you have the blue check mark talk.
Alexis
That is big to give someone on a first date. Yeah, I guess it's also weird to not call someone back. You had an amazing date, and this girl has a hookup to a blue check mark, and she hasn't given it to you, and so you're refusing to talk to her.
Rachel
I'm not, like, never gonna talk to her. We texted a few times after this, but, like, that was, like, a super selfish thing to do. And, like, I'm just not into, like, that quality in a person.
David
It's thinking, hold a blue check mark back is selfish.
Alexis
Like this.
David
The times have changed.
Marianne
I've had a lot of relationship drama, but not this issue.
Alexis
I mean, she can't inundate her one contact at Instagram with every dude she goes out with, you know, forever to get ours.
Rachel
Yeah, yeah, but, like, I'm not every dude. We connected. Like, it felt different.
Jeff
I Think you're actually connecting on more levels than you even realize, David. In fact, you're connecting to her right now. Yeah, specifically her phone line, because she's been listening this entire phone conversation, and she wants to talk to me.
Rachel
Oh, my God.
Alexis
Yeah.
Marianne
Hi, David, it's Marianne. Hi.
Rachel
Yeah, you've been listening the whole time. Cool.
Marianne
Well, when you're like, we texted a few times back and forth. When I say, hi, how's your day? And your response is, hi, I don't know if that really counts.
Rachel
Oh, I'm sorry. I don't have all the time in the world to, like, write you a freaking novel every time you text me. Like, I was just trying to be nice.
Marianne
Okay, well, I'm sorry. I was. You know, in regard to the blue check mark, I wasn't intentionally dangling it in front of you like a carrot. I was just saying, like, you know, things move forward, there's the possibility of this. And that was more, I think, of the business side rather than the potential relationship side. So it seems kind of sucky that you made that decision that, like, nothing's gonna move forward because I didn't further your Instagram account.
Jeff
Kind of sounds like a bribe to me.
Alexis
What?
Rachel
Yeah, or.
Jeff
Or almost a check mark tease.
Alexis
That's kind of smart if it is, though. But I think she's right on. Like, if you were in a business relationship with somebody, you wouldn't on the first time you met them, give them all of your secrets and goods.
David
You know, I'm pretty sure Brooks slept with the guy to get us check mark.
Rachel
I mean, she's, like, talking about it, like, we didn't have this, like, long. It's not like I walked up to her on the street and was like, yo, hook me up with a blue check mark. And, like, I have been at this for a long time. Like, I've got over 25,000 followers. By the way, unlike you, they're all real people. Like, chat.
David
What does that mean?
Alexis
That hurt.
Marianne
Hold on.
Jeff
You're a fraud. Who are you talking to in this? Are you talking to one of us? Are you talking to Marianne?
Rachel
No, I'm talking to Marianne. You know, wait, I.
Marianne
Hold on a second. As you sat there and went through every one of my 50,000 followers to find out if they're real. Oh, I hate when people buy fake followers.
Alexis
I mean, it is really obvious when you have fake followers, you get, like, a hundred likes. Totally. And they're all Russian names.
Marianne
Yeah.
Alexis
With a lot of, like, underscores.
Jeff
Are you saying it's not True or is he right?
Marianne
I bought followers when I first started because I wanted to move things forward, but it's not something that I have done in, like, two years.
Alexis
Dude, I will say I have worked with people who have done the same thing, okay. And like, put a lot of money into it because they think that that's how they're gonna look important.
Rachel
Yeah, see, that's what I'm talking about. The whole point is to be authentic on there, to have a real, authentic Persona. And you are just totally fake from the beginning. Totally fake.
Marianne
If the bot brought other people in, they don't have to stay following my account if they don't like it, but they've managed to stay.
David
I mean, I guess she's right.
Alexis
You could. I could argue either side, but I think we're really getting away from the part of you guys had, like, some romantic connection. I'm kind of interested in this.
Jeff
I know I'm living for the grand drama.
Alexis
Don't we want a date? Like, did you guys get past this? Can you put this in your past?
Rachel
No. I mean, it's not only a no for me, but, like, now I'm seriously thinking about reporting her to Instagram for having all these fake followers.
David
No, bro. Oh, don't get her account shut down after years of work. That could happen.
Alexis
Will they do that if you have fake followers? I think.
David
I think they did a purge.
Alexis
Like, I had to go report some people.
David
Oh, don't you get petty on us, Brooke.
Marianne
You can go ahead and do whatever you want. Like I said before, I already have ins with Instagram.
David
Oh, that's right. Right. Her friend works there.
Jeff
Oh, that's what she has the hookup.
Alexis
You're never getting a blue check, Mark David.
Rachel
Oh, my God.
Jeff
Oh, man, I cannot wait to watch the reaction video on my own Instagram later. Its young Jeffrey. Make sure you follow only real followers. Thank you.
David
That's why we're so cute.
Jeff
Yeah. Cause I'm the real deal. Hashtag GrahamLife.
Brooke
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Jeff
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Podcast Summary: Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update – "Ew, David" (#3)
Episode Title: Second Date Update: Ew, David (#3)
Release Date: December 25, 2024
Host/Author: iHeartPodcasts
In this episode of Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update, the hosts delve into the complexities of modern dating dynamics influenced by social media. The segment focuses on Marianne's experience with a date named David, exploring the challenges of forming genuine connections in an Instagram-driven world.
Marianne shares her experience of meeting David through Instagram, highlighting the initial excitement and common interests that brought them together.
Meeting on Instagram:
Marianne explains how David slid into her DMs, leading to mutual interactions that felt promising.
Mutual Interests and Collaboration Ideas:
The discussion reveals their shared ambition to grow their Instagram presence, envisioning a potential power couple dynamic.
The First Date:
Their first date involves a casual outing to a Boba Tea shop, followed by a walk in the park where they take selfies, capturing the moment under the golden hour.
Jeffrey and Alexis engage in a lively discussion about the nature of Marianne and David's date, focusing on the blend of genuine interaction and performative social media presence.
Analyzing the Date Dynamics:
Alexis [08:10]: "Did you feel like it was a genuine moment between you two?"
Marianne [08:31]: "Oh, absolutely. And I think it's probably because we had talked about different things we want to do, and we kind of laughed about it."
The hosts commend Marianne for balancing authenticity with the inherent performative aspects of being an influencer.
Despite an enjoyable first date, Marianne hasn't heard back from David, prompting her to seek answers through the podcast's "Second Date Update" segment.
Marianne ponders whether her light critique of David's idea about retrofitting a school bus for Instagram content may have played a role in his lack of communication.
To uncover the reasons behind David's silence, the hosts decide to call him directly, providing an opportunity for him to share his perspective.
Setting the Stage:
Jeff [10:30]: "Are you feeling ready, Marianne?"
Marianne [11:55]: "Yes."
David answers the call, and the conversation takes an unexpected turn as he expresses his frustrations candidly.
David opens up about his experience with Marianne, highlighting issues related to authenticity, influencer pressures, and perceived insincerity.
Disappointment with Performative Aspects:
He addresses the staged nature of public interactions typical among influencers.
Concerns About Fake Followers:
David criticizes Marianne for purchasing followers to boost her Instagram profile, questioning the authenticity of their connection.
David [17:21]: "Or almost a check mark tease."
Marianne [18:36]: "I bought followers when I first started because I wanted to move things forward, but it's not something that I have done in, like, two years."
Rachel [17:58]: "The whole point is to be authentic on there, to have a real, authentic Persona. And you are just totally fake from the beginning. Totally fake."
David feels that Marianne's pursuit of Instagram fame overshadowed the potential for a genuine romantic connection, leading to his decision not to pursue further dates.
Jeffrey and Alexis reflect on the conversation between Marianne and David, discussing broader themes of authenticity, the impact of social media on relationships, and the challenges of balancing personal connections with online personas.
Balancing Influence and Authenticity:
Alexis [19:15]: "Don't we want a date? Like, did you guys get past this? Can you put this in your past?"
Jeff [19:18]: "I know I'm living for the grand drama."
The hosts acknowledge the complexities of modern dating, where social media presence can both facilitate connections and create barriers to genuine intimacy.
The episode concludes with a nuanced exploration of how social media influences dating dynamics. Marianne's story serves as a case study for listeners to reflect on their own experiences and the importance of authenticity in building meaningful relationships.
Key Takeaways:
Notable Quotes:
Marianne [07:02]: "When something is so close to your heart and you spend so much of your time and energy into it, it's naturally going to come up to the conversation."
David [17:21]: "It's thinking, hold a blue check mark back is selfish."
Rachel [18:49]: "The whole point is to be authentic on there, to have a real, authentic Persona. And you are just totally fake from the beginning."
This episode of Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update offers an insightful look into the intersection of social media influence and personal relationships, encouraging listeners to prioritize authenticity and genuine connection in their dating lives.