Second Date Update: Fifteen Minutes of Shame

Summary

Podcast Summary: Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update – “Fifteen Minutes of Shame”

Episode Overview Released on April 14, 2025, the episode titled “Fifteen Minutes of Shame” from the podcast Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update delves into the tumultuous experience of a listener named Chris, who ventured outside his usual dating preferences in pursuit of a second date. Hosted by Brooke and Jeffrey, the episode offers a blend of heartfelt advice, humor, and unexpected revelations that make for an engaging narrative on the complexities of modern dating.

Introduction to Chris’s Story The episode kicks off with Brooke introducing the theme of opposites attracting, setting the stage for Chris’s unique dating dilemma. Brooke muses, “sometimes I wonder, do opposites really attract?” (03:42), highlighting the core of Chris’s predicament.

Listener Story: Chris and Tiffany Chris, the featured listener, shares his experience of dating Tiffany, a woman markedly different from his typical partners. Tiffany is described as “young, outgoing, loves to party and bounce around from club to club” (04:59). Chris recounts their first date, which involved hopping between three clubs—a stark contrast to his usual preference for a more subdued evening. He reflects, “I had a taste of it, and it was awesome” (05:25), yet admits uncertainty about the long-term compatibility of such a lifestyle.

Challenges Post-Date Despite a fun night and an “amazing kiss” (07:45), Tiffany becomes unresponsive when Chris attempts to arrange a second meeting. Brooke and Jeffrey discuss the red flags and the potential mismatch in their lifestyles. Jeffrey observes, “She doesn’t sound like a person who makes plans. You know what I mean?” (08:15), questioning whether Tiffany’s non-committal behavior is indicative of deeper issues.

Confrontation: Calling Tiffany Live Determined to uncover the truth, Brooke and Jeffrey decide to call Tiffany live on air. The interaction quickly becomes tense as Tiffany reveals that Chris appeared on the Dr. Phil show. Tiffany states, “And clearly, he probably doesn't have a problem talking to you because he called you and you're calling me” (12:55), hinting at underlying personal issues.

Revelations About Chris’s Appearance on Dr. Phil The conversation takes a surprising turn when Tiffany discloses that Chris’s Dr. Phil appearance involved a controversial discussion about his sister. Tiffany elaborates, “He said if this wasn’t your sister, would you be attracted to her?” (13:32), exposing a vulnerable side of Chris that complicates their budding relationship. Chris attempts to clarify, “I wasn't embarrassed about it, but I didn't really think she'd go look it up” (15:40), but the damage is done.

Humorous Yet Critical Exchange Brooke and Jeffrey navigate the awkwardness with humor, poking fun at Chris’s predicament while pressing for honesty. Brooke quips, “Get out of here” (16:37), and Jeffrey adds, “He's a liar” (19:48), demonstrating their skepticism about Chris’s credibility and intentions.

Conclusion: Lessons Learned The episode wraps up with Brooke and Jeffrey reflecting on the importance of honesty and compatibility in dating. They emphasize that stepping out of one’s comfort zone, as Chris did, can lead to unexpected challenges. Brooke concludes, “If you ever want to get a second date update or just be really grossed out by a few minutes of us talking, email the show” (21:44), inviting listeners to engage and share their own dating stories.

Notable Quotes

• Brooke on opposites attracting: “sometimes I wonder, do opposites really attract?” (03:42)
• Chris on trying something new: “I had a taste of it, and it was awesome” (05:25)
• Tiffany on Chris’s Dr. Phil appearance: “She was on the list at two places, and then, like, we were in line for. We got, like, got to the first club and got in line, and immediately these two girlfriends are hers” (07:04)
• Brooke addressing the awkward truth: “If you would let me” (19:03)
• Jeffrey’s final thoughts: “He's a liar” (19:48)

Episode Highlights

• Dynamic Interaction: The live call with Tiffany adds a layer of unpredictability, showcasing the hosts’ ability to handle real-time conversations.
• Humor and Insight: Brooke and Jeffrey balance humor with genuine advice, making the episode both entertaining and informative.
• Relatable Content: Many listeners will find Chris’s struggle with dating outside his norm relatable, offering lessons on authenticity and communication in relationships.

Conclusion “Fifteen Minutes of Shame” serves as a compelling exploration of the pitfalls and surprises that come with dating someone vastly different from one’s usual type. Through Chris’s story, Brooke and Jeffrey illuminate the challenges of balancing fun and commitment, ultimately underscoring the value of honesty and self-awareness in seeking meaningful connections.

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Timestamps Reference

• 03:42 – Introduction to opposites attracting
• 04:59 – Description of Tiffany’s personality
• 05:25 – Chris’s experience at clubs
• 07:45 – Chris’s amazing kiss with Tiffany
• 08:15 – Discussion on Tiffany’s commitment
• 12:55 – Tiffany mentions Chris’s Dr. Phil appearance
• 13:32 – Tiffany asks about attraction without being siblings
• 15:40 – Chris explains his Dr. Phil appearance
• 16:37 – Brooke’s reaction to Chris’s explanation
• 19:03 – Brooke’s attempt to mediate between Chris and Tiffany
• 19:48 – Jeffrey labels Chris as a liar
• 21:44 – Conclusion and invitation to listeners

Transcript

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[Brooke]

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[Jeffrey]

I'm ready to fight.

[George M. Johnson]

Oh, this is Fighting Words. Okay, I'll put the hammer back. Hi, I'm George M. Johnson, a best selling author with the second most banned book in America. Now more than ever, we need to use our voices to fight back.

[Brooke]

Part of the power of black queer creativity is the fact that we got us.

[George M. Johnson]

You know, we are the greatest culture.

[Jeffrey]

Makers in world history.

[George M. Johnson]

Listen to Fighting words on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

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[Jeffrey]

I remember that feeling of okay, this.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

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[Jeffrey]

I want to take over the world and just leave this place better than I found it.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

So come and join our girl gang. Listen to the girl friends Spotlight on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Brendan Patrick Hughes]

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[Brooke]

This is a story about radical nuns in combat boots and wild haired priests.

[Brendan Patrick Hughes]

Trading blows with J. Edgar Hoover in a hell bent effort to sabotage a war.

[Chris]

J. Edgar Hoover was furious.

[Brooke]

He was out of his mind and he wanted to bring the Catholic left to its KN.

[Brendan Patrick Hughes]

Listen to Divine Intervention on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

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[Brooke]

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[Jeffrey]

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[Sam Mullins]

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[Jeffrey]

Welcome to the second date podcast. You are in for a treat today. Oh yeah, it's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning because the listener who called us in for help, told us he was kind of famous. Yep. Brooks doing air quotes you can't see, but. I know, I know. But honestly, when his true identity was revealed, we were shocked. You're gonna hear it all coming up, but let's. Let's do some listener comments real quick.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

It was Tupac.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Sorry to reveal.

[Jeffrey]

No, I saw this comment from Derek that said, love the show. Tuning in from Wisconsin, my wife got me hooked on the Second Date update last summer. Then that turned into the phone tap. Then that turned to the full show I listened to every day, and I just bought the Second Date Update shirt and can't wait for it to arrive.

[George M. Johnson]

Yes.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, I love it. I love it so much. Yeah, we do the Second Date podcast, and we also do a full hour show. If you like to punish yourself that much, you can search Brooke and Jeffrey, or you can just hit that more like this tab, and it should come right up there. Anyway. All right, let's get this started.

[Brooke]

Second Date Update. You know, sometimes I wonder, do opposites really attract?

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Okay, good question.

[Brooke]

Because I look at Brooke's husband, and he's handsome, charming. Wait, funny.

[Jeffrey]

What?

[Tiffany]

He is.

[Jeffrey]

I agree.

[Brooke]

Extremely humble. Yeah, I mean, Brooke, you're.

[Jeffrey]

You know what? Wait, what?

[Brooke]

You're probably at least one of those things, if not half of one.

[Jeffrey]

I mean, I agree with you about my husband, but now I feel a little hurt.

[Brooke]

Why does she feel. I'm just trying to question.

[Jeffrey]

I think it's more of a personality.

[Brooke]

Thing that makes us opposites.

[Jeffrey]

Question. Okay. All right, Jeff.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

I mean, he's, like, the perfect guy, and Brooke is.

[Jeffrey]

Hey, hey, hey.

[Brooke]

There's a lot of theories being thrown around right here, but one of our listeners. One of our listeners tried the opposites approach, and I wonder how that went for him since he's on the phone.

[Jeffrey]

With us, going, not well.

[Brooke]

Yeah, probably not all that great. But I am interested in hearing his story. So let's talk to Chris. Chris, what's up, man?

[Chris]

Hey, guys. Well, it's not going terrible, but I could use your help.

[Jeffrey]

Okay. You just need a little help. Not a ton of help.

[Chris]

Well, we'll see. I mean, hopefully.

[Brooke]

All right, well, tell us about your opposite. Who are they?

[Chris]

Well, the girl's name is Tiffany, but she's a couple of years younger than the girls I've been dating and, like, loves to party and go out and super social and.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

And do you like that? Is that a lifestyle you're into?

[Chris]

You know, I had a blast with her. And, like, I've Typically not gone out with people like that.

[Brooke]

Oh.

[Chris]

And then I get kind of bored of the people that I've been dating and.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Yeah.

[Chris]

So I figured I'd give this a whirl.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

That makes sense. I think everyone comes to a point where it's like, you love being drunk at a bar at midnight, and then you get older and you're like, I'd rather be in bed at midnight, you know, maybe reading a book.

[Brooke]

Yeah. I think that that's not what Chris is saying. He's saying the opposite. He wants to get back into the fun lifestyle.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

Right.

[Jeffrey]

He was bored by the early bed.

[Chris]

Yeah. I had a. I had a taste of it, and it was. It was awesome.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, what did you and Tiffany do?

[Chris]

So we initially met up at a bar.

[Jeffrey]

Okay.

[Chris]

And like, the sort of general awkwardness of, like, the first meeting was broken immediately because she was like, hey, honey, and just gave me a huge hug. And, like, it was very different from sort of the standoffish, like, oh, nice to meet you.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Yeah. Like, the whole timid me.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah. She wasn't old enough to be jaded yet, so she didn't have as many barriers, as many guards up.

[Brooke]

That's nice, because some people are actually like that. They're super outgoing and personable the second you meet them. So it's nice that you found somebody like that. How did the actual day go?

[Chris]

It was great. Like, I'm not one to go clubbing, but I guess I can say have now because typically, like, I go to, like, maybe one bar, one place and kind of hang out there for the evening. I think we went to three clubs after. So, like, I got dragged around and, like, willfully and happily.

[Brooke]

Okay, that's a good thing. Or is that a red flag in your mind?

[Chris]

I just kind of rolled with it and wasn't really sure. Like, is this going to be fun? Is this going to be annoying?

[Unknown Speaker 1]

But that's the adventure.

[Brendan Patrick Hughes]

Right.

[Jeffrey]

And that's her scene. Right. Like, did you have to wait in line or was she able to get you in at every place? Because that's how you, you know, if she's.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Yeah, she knows all about.

[Jeffrey]

Exactly.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Like, oh, hey, what's up?

[Chris]

Well, she was on the list at two places, and then, like, we were in line for. We got, like, got to the first club and got in line, and immediately these two girlfriends are hers. And, like, pulled us up to the front. We walked right in.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, see, that's even better. It is good. But also, you know, is it worry you, Jose? Because you said, oh, and she's on the list at two places.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Look, I have a lot of guy friends. I think we all know promoters and the girls that tend to be on every list at every club tend to be fun.

[Jeffrey]

They are fun. They are fun, but they're not necessarily looking for a relationship.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Like maybe, I mean, looking to have fun.

[Jeffrey]

What are you looking for with her?

[Chris]

Well, I mean, see where it goes, I guess. But what's weird is the end of the night, like, had this amazing kiss with her and asked, hey, am I going to see you again? And she was like, if you're lucky, I love it.

[Brooke]

Oh, that's such a good flirtatious line.

[Jeffrey]

It is, yeah.

[Chris]

Well, then her Uber pulled up, she hopped in and like wave goodbye and like, that was it. But like, I reached out to her afterwards and she's responded. But when I asked her to like make plans, she's non committal.

[Jeffrey]

She doesn't sound like a person who makes plans. You know what I mean? Like, she's bar to bar, she's club to club. She's rolling with life, right?

[Brooke]

And I mean that's, that's a fun lifestyle to live. But is there any time during the night, Chris, where you felt like the two of you just got to sit down and connect?

[Jeffrey]

That sounds old and boring, Jeffrey.

[Brooke]

Well, that's the type of thing that I think he wants.

[Chris]

We did talk a little bit about, like our families and how I recently lost a bunch of weight and you.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Know, just how like as she's twerking on you.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, you're just yelling.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Yeah, I lost 30 pounds.

[Brooke]

I love this song.

[Jeffrey]

I have a sister.

[Chris]

No, no, no. I wasn't trying to have this conversation on the dance floor. No, it was before we went to the club and I guess you had.

[Jeffrey]

Travel time in between, right? Like either you were walking or in an Uber or.

[Chris]

Yeah, okay, but I mean, it wasn't like awkward or anything. It was just sort of general. I mean, she said she showed a picture of her family and friends so that I couldn't murder her, but.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

No, that's good.

[Jeffrey]

And it's funny.

[Brooke]

Tiffany sounds like a firecracker. So we're all going to have to turn up a lot before we make this phone call here.

[Jeffrey]

I don't know if we should say it like that.

[Brooke]

How do we say it?

[Jeffrey]

I don't know. I think we just be ourselves with Tiffany. We don't need to try to be cool. Jeff. I was ready.

[Brooke]

It's going to be the coolest edition ever of Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning when we come back, can we.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

At least play a cool song?

[Brooke]

Boring song, so we can really skyrocket off of it when we do our second date update. It's happening next. Hold on. Second date update? Yeah, we got our glow sticks out.

[Tiffany]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

We do our flaming jello shots lit.

[Jeffrey]

What do you mean?

[Brooke]

Wow, I just went in the bathroom and snorted something off the toilet seat.

[Jeffrey]

No, bro, don't do that.

[Brooke]

It may have been comic cleaner. I don't know what it was. The thing is, I do feel lemony fresh for the second date update. Okay? Because that's what our listeners trying to do for his dating life now. Trying not to be so boring anymore. It's one of the main reasons he went out with someone named Tiffany. She's young and outgoing, loves to party and bounce around from club to club. So that's what they did for their date night. Had a great time, but afterwards, Tiffany's been mia. Good news is, some of her wild side did rub off on you, Chris, because you're stepping out of your comfort zone now. Calling a radio show, trying to get a hold of her. How does that make you feel?

[Chris]

I mean, somewhat desperate, but, like, she's worth it.

[Jeffrey]

Slightly embarrassed, but still fun.

[Brooke]

Yeah, that's what the young people feel all the time.

[Jeffrey]

Do you think she's actually gonna be awake right now?

[Chris]

Yeah, I mean, like, I don't mean to make it seem like she's always partying, but I just feel like she would not miss a good party.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, okay.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

She's already on the list.

[Jeffrey]

She has a job in, like, some sort of, like, adult part of her life too. You mean?

[Chris]

Yeah, I mean, as far as I could tell, she seems to keep it together, but she's not the one who wants to Netflix and chill, okay?

[Jeffrey]

Okay, there's no chill.

[Chris]

Well, there's like, chill, but, like, it's gonna be, like, chilling somewhere out and about.

[Brooke]

Okay.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Real life chill.

[Brooke]

Like, no consciousness chill.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Or like, at a Waffle House.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, that's what I was kind of thinking, too, Jose. Not that she was passed out in an alley.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

She's, like, in a park.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, sleeping.

[Brooke]

Let's not waste any more time. Let's just call Tiffany and see if she knows Alexis personally and if she even remembers you, Chris, but.

[Jeffrey]

And if not, we'll become friends.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Hey, T. What's up, girl?

[Brooke]

All right, let's just do this. I'm a dollar number right now. Here we.

[Tiffany]

Hello?

[Brooke]

Oh, she's awake. Is this Tiffany?

[Jeffrey]

Hi.

[Tiffany]

Yeah, it is.

[Jeffrey]

Hi, Tiffany.

[Brooke]

Tiffany. What's up?

[Tiffany]

How are you?

[Jeffrey]

Good.

[Brooke]

How are you? Do you have any idea who you're talking with right now?

[Tiffany]

No, I don't know who I'm talking to. I'm so tired.

[Brooke]

Oh, okay.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

Well, you're on the radio right now with Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.

[Tiffany]

No.

[Brooke]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tiffany]

Why am I on the radio?

[Brooke]

Because a little birdie told me that you're a fun time.

[Jeffrey]

What? Why are you say to. Like, we're supposed to be so.

[Tiffany]

Right.

[Brooke]

Yeah, okay. All right, Mrs. Cool, you take it away.

[Jeffrey]

It's not a good name.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Yeah, bro, you got it.

[Jeffrey]

I don't know, it just sounded weird, like you got her number off some bathroom stall or something.

[Brooke]

Maybe I did. Tiffany, would that be weird to you?

[Tiffany]

That would be weird, but the birdie. No, I. I was partying with the birdie last night.

[Jeffrey]

Or something.

[Brooke]

I think she was hallucinating. But the truth is, we're calling you because one of our listeners gave us your phone number because he wants to get a hold of you. Remember going out with Chris the other night?

[Tiffany]

Oh, yeah.

[Brooke]

Okay, that's good.

[Jeffrey]

Okay. Did you have fun with Chris? Was he a good time?

[Tiffany]

Yeah, we have fun. For a guy that was, like, more of an introvert, he kind of let loose.

[Jeffrey]

Okay.

[Tiffany]

Like, he let his shell down and, like, had a. At a ball.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

I can't help but notice the. There's something in your voice, Tiffany, that's telling me something was off.

[Tiffany]

Yeah, so at one point, towards the beginning of the date, he started, like, talking about how he's lost a lot of wheat and. In the newspaper.

[Jeffrey]

In the newspaper. Sorry, what. What did that have to do with the newspaper?

[Tiffany]

Yeah, he said that he. They did a story or feature him or something.

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

Good for him.

[Tiffany]

And then he said that he might also be on television. So I researched it because you would think, like, the TV would tell the story when the newspaper, like, both of those would talk about his weight loss and everything.

[Brooke]

Yeah, because just knowing your type, personality, you're not gonna be reading any newspapers coming out soon.

[Tiffany]

I was really looking for the television.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

She's like, let me see the short news clip on TikTok.

[Brooke]

So what'd you find?

[Tiffany]

I found him on Dr. Phil.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, on Dr. Phil. Whoa, dude. So it's like a national story.

[Brooke]

Why Was he on Dr. Phil?

[Tiffany]

So I'm not gonna say why he was on there, because, like, that's his business. But I'm not gonna hang out with him anymore because when I turned on the television, he was on the TV in the same outfit. We went to the date, and he wasn't on there for his weight loss.

[Jeffrey]

So I can understand, like, the outfit thing. Cause everybody has that one outfit that makes them feel really good about that, too.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

I know mine. Outfit that I'd wear in Dr.

[Jeffrey]

I'm, like, dying to know what the Dr. Phil episode was about.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

He's like, chris, why do you smoke so much Crying.

[Jeffrey]

Well, that was the weight loss. That would still be weight loss. Yeah, that would still be weight loss.

[Brooke]

I saw that episode. That was a good one.

[Tiffany]

No, but seriously, like I said, that's his business, is not mine. And clearly, he probably doesn't have a problem talking to you because he called you and you're calling me. But I would definitely ask him.

[Brooke]

Okay, well, if you're not gonna tell us, Tiffany, then we're just gonna turn over to the. And ask Chris. Chris.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Hey.

[Brooke]

Why were you on Dr. Phil, bro?

[Tiffany]

Wait, wait, you have him on the phone?

[Brooke]

Yeah, no, that's how this segment works. We have him waiting on the other line, but Chris.

[Tiffany]

Oh, God.

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Chris]

Yeah. I mean, look, I met. I was on Dr. Phil, and. Yeah, but why? I mean, look, I'll explain sort of quickly.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Bro, you're fumbling your words a lot. I don't know what's going on here, but I don't like it.

[Jeffrey]

How did you make it a whole show? You can't say it. And why would you tell her about it if it's something you're embarrassed of?

[Chris]

I wasn't embarrassed about it, but I didn't really think she'd go look it up. I was just like. We were talking about, like, being written up in the newspaper and possibly being on tv.

[Brooke]

All right, well, can you fill us in on why you were on the show?

[Chris]

I was. I was a guest. I wasn't the main feature, but the deal was my sister was a stripper. And what was effed up about it was a friend of mine went to the strip club and, like, courted her. And so that's what the show was about.

[Jeffrey]

Just. The show is about somebody sleeping with your stripper sister.

[Chris]

Exactly.

[Brooke]

Okay, who hasn't that happened to before?

[Jeffrey]

Like, bad producing from Dr. Phil. That sounds pretty like it makes me a lot worse. Yeah, that's a pretty dull thing. Like, Tiffany, you're in the party scene. Why does that bother you?

[Tiffany]

The part that really, like, weirded me out was the fact when they asked him, like, if this wasn't your sister, would you be attracted to her? And he said yes.

[Chris]

Oh, wait, what am I gonna say? Tell my Sister. She's ugly. Come on.

[Brooke]

Yeah, the whole. The point is to, like, imagine her as not a sister.

[Chris]

There's no right answer for that. They're only wrong.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

That's. He has a point.

[Jeffrey]

Why is Dr. Phil asking those questions? Because that's good producing. You want the juice, dude. You want the drama on these shows.

[Brooke]

I think, if anything, it proves that Chris is a gentleman because he knows how to compliment a lady.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Absolutely.

[Jeffrey]

That is a stretch.

[Tiffany]

Being attracted to someone and complimenting them are two different things. Especially your sister.

[Brooke]

But sister.

[Chris]

What am I supposed to say, no, she's pretty. She's just not my type? I mean, that's.

[Tiffany]

That's exactly what you say. I don't look at my sister like that. I don't know if I would be attracted.

[Chris]

I didn't say I looked at my sister like that.

[Brooke]

The point was, Dr. Phil said, pretend it's not your sister.

[Chris]

Made me look like an.

[Brooke]

I feel like maybe Dr. Phil should book both of you for a new show.

[Tiffany]

Are you kidding me? Get out of here.

[Jeffrey]

One more chance.

[Brooke]

Yeah, you guys just need one date to build a little bit more drama between you.

[Tiffany]

I don't want drama. I don't want. I don't.

[Jeffrey]

It was. It wasn't drama, though. It was just a misunderstanding.

[Chris]

Yeah, we had a good time. The drama came from you seeing it.

[Tiffany]

Yeah, like, he purposely misread me.

[Jeffrey]

No, he didn't. He didn't.

[Tiffany]

Ah, he did. He wanted to be cool. He wanted to say that he was popular or he had some type of fame.

[Chris]

I didn't. I don't think any of that. And who's gonna try to brag by saying they're on Dr. Phil?

[Tiffany]

At least you don't say you aren't Dr. Phil. You said you're.

[Chris]

That's right. I did not. I said I was on tv.

[Tiffany]

Right, you're on TV with your stripper sister that you were attracted to.

[Brooke]

If you would let me.

[Chris]

Needed a job. I. I'm not attracted to her like that. Like, she's a pretty girl.

[Brooke]

I think he's made it pretty clear here, Tiffany. He's not attracted to his sister. He is attracted to you, though.

[Jeffrey]

I can't believe he's having sex to.

[Chris]

Prove that the girl's married and doesn't strip anymore. Like, come on.

[Brooke]

So the question is, makes her less attractive with his stripper sister. We would like to send you, Tiffany, on a date with this TV star who is 100% not attracted to his real sister anymore anymore.

[Tiffany]

When did he stop being attracted to Her. I don't know if I want to do that.

[Jeffrey]

It was a joke for Tiffany, who doesn't like drama. I'm not gonna say it. Tiffany, give him another chance. He sounds like a cool dude.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

He's honest.

[Brooke]

We can find out if he's really an honest guy or not right now. Oh. I'm just gonna ask you one question, Chris. Are you attracted to my co host, Brooke? Oh.

[Chris]

I mean, I think she's a very attractive lady.

[Brooke]

Can't trust this guy.

[Jeffrey]

He's a liar.

[Tiffany]

Where's the honesty?

[Brooke]

Where's the honesty? I'm with you, Tiffany. Cut and run. Can't trust this dude.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

He needs to stay away from shows.

[Jeffrey]

Radio shows, TV show. A good idea.

[Brooke]

Look at Jeffrey in the morning, man. I know we were kind of joking about it, but I'm serious. I actually think having those 2 on a Dr. Phil episode would be absolutely hilarious.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Yeah?

[Jeffrey]

You think funnier than the stripper sister? I mean, I don't know about that.

[Brooke]

Just hearing the bicker back and forth. I mean, that's TV gold.

[Jeffrey]

And I do like how honest he is about all his questioning. You know, even when asked if he thought his. His sister was attractive, that's all you can ask for.

[Brooke]

And after we recorded that second date, behind the scenes, I did confirm that Jose has a sister. So I asked him, if she wasn't his sister, would he be attracted to her? And to his credit, he was very grossed out by that.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

I am grossed out.

[Brooke]

No, she's not his type.

[Jeffrey]

I think that's the thing with siblings. It's okay to say that you're. That your other sibling isn't attractive.

[Brooke]

Exactly. But his mom. Mom, that was a different story.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Don't get me going. Mama likey. Okay, Jose. Mama.

[Brooke]

Okay. If she wasn't your mom. Let me be clear.

[Jeffrey]

Before he put that in, I thought.

[Brooke]

It was assumed, Right?

[Jeffrey]

It's not assumed, Jose.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Okay, I need to get out of here.

[Brooke]

Jose's mom better check her DMs a little bit later. He's got a message coming.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Mama doesn't know how to check her DMs.

[Jeffrey]

Actually, Mama needs to block her son.

[Brooke]

Yeah, I think we just kind up with a fun new party game, though, that you can play. It's called if she wasn't your sister by hasbro.

[Jeffrey]

They're like 12. One of us. But the legal one, I mean, that's fair to ask.

[Brooke]

No, you can stop at first base. You can. You don't have to go any farther than that.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Okay, we were done.

[Brooke]

Hasbro. I Hope you're listening. Anyway, if you ever want to get a second date update or just be really grossed out by a few minutes of us talking, I need a shower. Email the show. We'll call the person who isn't calling you back.

[Jeffrey]

Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning Bring.

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[Unknown Speaker 1]

The championship is back in the bay.

[Brooke]

For the first time in 40 years.

[Brendan Patrick Hughes]

On the new limited podcast series Dub Dynasty, we hear from head coach Steve Kerr on how Steph Curry almost never even joined the Warriors.

[Brooke]

In fact, I thought we had a draft day deal to end up getting.

[Brendan Patrick Hughes]

Him to Phoenix for the entire behind the scenes story of Golden State's incredible 10 year run. Listen to Dub Dynasty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

The number one hit podcast, the Girlfriends, is back with something new, the Girlfriends Spotlight, where each week you'll hear women share their stories of triumph over adversity. You'll meet Luanne, who escaped a secretive religious community.

[Jeffrey]

Do I want my freedom or do I want my family?

[Unknown Speaker 2]

And now helps other women get out too.

[Jeffrey]

I loved my girls.

[Tiffany]

I still love my girls.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

Come and join our girl gang. Listen to the Girlfriend Spotlight on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[George M. Johnson]

I'm ready to fight. Oh, this is Fighting Words. Okay, I'll put the hammer back. Hi, I'm George M. Johnson, a best selling author with the second most banned book in America. Now more than ever, we need to use our voices to fight back.

[Brooke]

Part of the power of black queer creativity is the fact that we got us.

[George M. Johnson]

You know, we are the greatest culture.

[Jeffrey]

Makers in world history.

[George M. Johnson]

Listen to Fighting words on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.

[Sam Mullins]

Hi, I'm Sam Mullins and I've got a new podcast coming out called goboy. The gritty true story of how one man fought his way out of some of the darkest places imaginable.

[Brooke]

Roger Caron was 16 when first convicted.

[Jeffrey]

Has spent 24 of those years in.

[Sam Mullins]

Jail but when Roger Caron picked up a pen and paper, he went from an ex con to a literary darling from Campside Media and iHeart Podcasts. Listen to GoBoy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.