Second Date Update: Good Not Great Date

Summary

Podcast Summary: "Second Date Update: Good Not Great Date"

Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update (iHeartPodcasts) – September 3, 2025

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Episode Overview

This episode centers on Abby, a listener who reached out after an underwhelming but pleasant first date with Luke. After ghosting him initially, an awkward run-in at a local brewery sparks a change of heart, leading Abby to reconsider. The hosts dive deep into the intricacies of modern dating—ghosting, second chances, and whether a "good not great" date is worth pursuing—delivering humor, brutal honesty, and a tongue-in-cheek look at millennial romance.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. "Good, Not Great" – Setting the Scene

• [03:43] Jeff: “After a good but not great first date, what are your options moving forward?”
• The hosts discuss how modern dating often leaves people chasing excitement, leading them to discount dates that don’t “blow them away” but are otherwise perfectly fine.
• Abby describes her date with Luke as "nice," not thrilling, but solid—he has a good job (pharmaceutical industry), easy conversation, mutual interests, met on a dating app, lived nearby, and chose a popular brewery for their first meeting.

2. Ambivalence: The Pitfalls of Modern Dating

• [05:58] Abby: “It was nice…we chatted, we had stuff to talk about. You know, it didn’t blow me away, but that’s okay.”
• Abby admits she didn’t follow up with enthusiasm, only sending a polite thank-you, leading Luke to ask for a second date, which she left on read.
• The conversation explores whether a simple "thank you" text means a lack of interest and the challenge of reading intent over messaging.

3. The Brewery Run-In – A Plot Twist

• [07:11] Abby: “I went on a different date the following week…and we went to the same brewery. Guess who was there? Luke was also there on a date.”
• Abby runs into Luke while both are on separate dates. They wave awkwardly, and Abby introduces him to her date as “just a friend.”
• The incident unexpectedly triggers new feelings:
  • [07:52] Abby: “Yeah, I mean, to be honest, I was kinda like, ‘Oh, well, I’m…’”—admitting she was more intrigued seeing Luke with someone else.
• She realizes that the “grass might not be greener” and considers that perhaps she discounted Luke too quickly.

4. Changing Minds—Second Chances?

• Abby texts Luke after the brewery run-in, joking about the coincidence and suggesting they hang out again, but he doesn’t respond.
• [09:06] Abby: “I texted him…made a joke and then said we should hang out again, and he has not responded.”

5. Luke’s Perspective—Hurt Pride and “Bro Code”

• [13:05] Jeff and the team call Luke, who is surprised and a bit hesitant but eventually opens up.
• Luke admits feeling two “gut punches”—being ghosted by Abby, and then seeing her on a date with someone else at their date spot.
• [14:02] Luke: “I ran into the guy at the bathroom…the guy she was on the date with…I told him if you go on a nice date, she’s gonna ghost you. Probably.”
• He admits this was “more of a bro code thing” and not meant to sabotage, but more as a “warning.”

6. Reconciliation, Vulnerability, and Lessons

• Abby joins the call to clarify her intentions:
  • [16:23] Abby: “I liked you, and I get a lot of messages on the dating apps…a good first date doesn’t always have to be sparkles and magic…I was interested in you.”
• Luke is cautious, emphasizing low expectations but admits Abby seems sincere:
  • [17:57] Luke: “I believe her. I think my expectations are still gonna be low, if that’s okay with you.”

7. Resolution – Date #2 and Realistic Expectations

• The hosts offer a second date, on them.
• Luke agrees, but with a playful caveat:
  • [18:29] Luke: “I will say yes, but…I expect you to ghost me after the second date.”
• Abby assures she is genuinely interested this time.
• Banter ensues about possibly having yet another run-in with the “average” new guy at the brewery.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• [04:46] Jeff (joking): “Oh, Luke. That’s a good—not even great—name.”
• [07:49] Jeffrey: “Did you think he was cuter when he was sitting with another girl? They always are.”
• [14:11] Luke: “I just told him the truth. I told him if you go on a nice date, she’s gonna ghost you. Probably.”
• [16:23] Abby: “I liked you…a good first date doesn’t always have to be sparkles and magic…I think it’s a great building block.”
• [17:57] Luke: “I believe her. I think my expectations are still gonna be low, if that’s okay with you.”
• [18:29] Luke: “I will say yes, but…I expect you to ghost me after the second date.”
• [18:51] Brian Christopher: “This will be the only time a high five can end a date. And it’ll be a good thing.”

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Important Segment Timestamps

• [03:43] – “Good, not great” date introduction and Abby’s first impressions
• [07:11] – Abby’s awkward run-in with Luke at the brewery
• [09:06] – Abby reaches out to Luke again, receives no response
• [12:02] – The hosts call Luke and he reveals his side
• [14:02] – Luke’s “bro code” bathroom chat with Abby’s date
• [16:23] – Abby clarifies her feelings; sincere reconciliation attempt
• [18:29] – Offer for a second date; Luke’s cautious but positive response

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Episode Tone & Takeaways

• Language/Tone: Playful, self-deprecating, and unfiltered. The hosts mock the absurdity of modern dating’s “options” overload and the emotional mind games it creates.
• Takeaway: Sometimes, what seems “average” at first glance is worth a second look. Ghosting hurts feelings on both sides, and communication—along with embracing imperfection—can lead to new opportunities.
• The hosts highlight that expectations (and egos) are a major obstacle in dating. Both Abby and Luke learn from their missteps, showing a rare on-air bit of growth and honesty.

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For Listeners:
If you’ve ever second-guessed a decent first date or regretted ghosting, this episode delivers a humorous and surprisingly heartfelt lesson: it’s okay to rethink, reach out, and see if something understated could turn into something great—or at least “better than average.”

Transcript

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[Jeffrey]

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[Brian Christopher]

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[Jeffrey]

That's kind of wholesome too.

[Brian Christopher]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

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[Announcer]

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[Brian Christopher]

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[Jeffrey]

So many green flags for that relationship. Yeah, for sure.

[Brian Christopher]

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[Jeffrey]

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[Announcer]

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[Jeffrey]

Yeah. Yeah. They're harder to come by in these. It all starts right now.

[Jeff]

Second date update. After a good but not great first date, what are your options moving forward? You could A, give up on dating and do absolutely nothing.

[Jeffrey]

Good date, you have to give out. No, it's okay Date.

[Brian Christopher]

Okay.

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[Luke]

Just.

[Jeff]

Just a good, not a great date.

[Jeffrey]

It's going to push you over the edge. So you finally just give up.

[Jeff]

I'm saying that's an option. You could go with B, play the waiting game and do absolutely nothing.

[Luke]

Okay.

[Jeffrey]

That's the same option as A.

[Jeff]

Or option C, make up a story in your head about how that person was probably some deranged psychopath. So it's justified that you ghosted them.

[Brian Christopher]

And do nothing and then do nothing.

[Jeff]

But today's listener Abby went a different route after going on a good, not great first date. So let's talk to her about it. Abby, welcome to the show.

[Abby]

Hi. Thank you.

[Jeffrey]

So are we gonna do the. We're gonna talk to you and then do nothing. Is that the.

[Jeff]

Yeah, we'll get to doing nothing in a bit. But first, what's the name of this good, not great guy?

[Abby]

His Name is Luke.

[Jeff]

Oh, Luke. That's a good. Not even great name.

[Jeffrey]

What a terrible intro. I think the name Luke is nice.

[Jeff]

Oh, Luke is like, he's mid.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah.

[Abby]

And I don't. I don't want to set him up either as this thing, like, terrible.

[Luke]

I just.

[Brian Christopher]

Just call him normal then. Right. Normal in the middle.

[Jeff]

Sure. Average, Luke Average.

[Brian Christopher]

That sounds bad, hon.

[Jeffrey]

Like, right at the beginning. I'm confused why you would call this guy average. The date. Okay. And actually want to go out with him again.

[Announcer]

Aren't most first dates just good?

[Luke]

Yeah.

[Brian Christopher]

Successful.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah.

[Jeff]

I think we need to hear more of the story. So tell us about how you and Luke met and what you did for your date.

[Abby]

Yeah, I mean, he's a good dude. He has a good job. He works in pharmaceutical industry. And I don't work in the same industry, but I know people who work in it and kind of. I have some clients that kind of work in it. So, like, we connected. We had something to talk about.

[Jeff]

Okay.

[Jeffrey]

Is that how you guys met? Through mutual friends, or did you meet them online?

[Abby]

Yeah, no, we met on the dating app.

[Jeffrey]

Okay.

[Abby]

And we figured out that we live in the same part of town. There's a kind of popular brewery, so we decided to kind of just head there since it was close to both of us.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, yeah.

[Brian Christopher]

All sounds normal.

[Jeffrey]

Yep.

[Brian Christopher]

Really good.

[Jeffrey]

Average.

[Luke]

Yeah.

[Brian Christopher]

Trying to avoid that word, but, yeah.

[Jeff]

How did the brewery go?

[Abby]

It was nice. Like, we chatted, we had stuff to talk about. You know, it didn't blow me away, but that's okay.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah.

[Brian Christopher]

I mean, like, what you mean by that is, like, he checked all the boxes, got a good job, easy convo, but nothing, like, stood out is what you're trying to say.

[Abby]

No, no, it was pretty normal. And I think so normal that it kind of made me hesitate after I didn't reach out to him, other than like, thank you for the date, but, you know, I didn't set anything up afterwards.

[Jeffrey]

Is it just a quick thank you for the date, like a sign that you don't want anymore?

[Luke]

I don't know.

[Brian Christopher]

It depends. I would say I'm like, oh, my God, thank you. That was awesome. But I guess that's hard to read over text, right?

[Jeff]

I mean, was he responding back to you and trying to initiate a second date?

[Abby]

Yeah, he did ask me out, and I kind of left him on red.

[Jeffrey]

Oh. So how long ago was that?

[Abby]

This was two weeks ago.

[Jeffrey]

Okay.

[Jeff]

Okay.

[Brian Christopher]

So why are you talking to us?

[Jeff]

What's happened since then?

[Luke]

Yeah.

[Abby]

Okay. So there was a weird Thing that happened. And so that's why I wanted to chat. So after that, I was a little unclear about Luke and I went on a different date the following week, and we went to the same brewery. Guess who was there.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, my God. Luke was also there on a date.

[Abby]

Luke was also there on a date?

[Jeff]

No.

[Jeffrey]

Awkward.

[Brian Christopher]

I mean, yeah, awkward, but he's not doing anything wrong.

[Jeffrey]

No, nobody's doing anything. She just ghosted him and now she's back at the same brew with a new date.

[Jeff]

Yeah. What was the interaction between you two like? Was there an interaction?

[Abby]

Yeah, I mean, we saw each other, we just kind of, like, waved and I told the date, you know, it's just a friend of mine.

[Brian Christopher]

Awkward wave or smiley?

[Abby]

A little awkward.

[Jeffrey]

So wait, did you think he was cuter when he was sitting with another girl?

[Brian Christopher]

They always are.

[Jeffrey]

I mean, honestly.

[Abby]

Yeah, I mean, to be honest, I was kind of like, oh, well, I'm.

[Announcer]

Guessing your date didn't go that good.

[Jeff]

That's a good point. Alexis, how was the date with the new guy?

[Abby]

Fine. Nice.

[Jeff]

Just.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, okay, we'll call him in two weeks after this. Yeah.

[Jeff]

Okay. Clearly you were eyeing Luke over in the corner with his other date and something was happening with you emotionally.

[Abby]

Well, I think I also didn't have anything to compare it with. I'm kind of new back into the dating pool.

[Jeffrey]

Okay.

[Abby]

And Luke was the first person I.

[Jeff]

Had dated at that particular brewery.

[Jeffrey]

It's like when you're in a competition and you have to go first and the judges score you lower because they don't know what else is coming up next. They want to leave some room.

[Brian Christopher]

Yeah, you may have been the best.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah. But then he got screwed in the judging, you know?

[Jeff]

Is that how you felt?

[Abby]

Maybe. Maybe I did that to him.

[Jeff]

Yeah. Yeah. To conclusions. Okay, so where is your head at now with Luke and this new guy?

[Abby]

Yeah, the new guy was kind of whatever. And I. It made me think that Luke might be a good match, actually, so I ended up texting him.

[Jeff]

Well, Luke was. Luke was also whatever, but he's less whatever.

[Jeffrey]

Wait, wait, so you texted Luke?

[Abby]

Yeah, so I texted him. Was just like, haha, that was funny. You know, just like kind of laughed it off, made a joke and then said that we should hang out again, and he has not responded.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, because you didn't respond to him when he said that.

[Abby]

Yeah, yeah, I know. But now maybe we could get. I don't know.

[Brian Christopher]

Yeah, sounds like you want what you can't have. And it's not like you can't have him, though. That's the thing.

[Jeff]

Well, we don't know. Maybe Luke has moved on. Maybe Luke actually did have a good time with the new girl that he was with.

[Abby]

I don't know. I don't know.

[Jeff]

Okay, okay.

[Brian Christopher]

Okay.

[Jeffrey]

I hope you were, like, laughing a lot and looking like you were having lots of fun on your other date.

[Jeff]

But not too much fun, or else Luke will be like, oh, she really is having a great time with that other guy.

[Jeffrey]

I'm kind of joking.

[Jeff]

I don't know. Like, why are you laughing? More fun with me. Anyway, who says dating plays mind games on everybody? Not I. So we're gonna come back, we're gonna call this good, not great guy Luke, and hopefully convince him to give you a second chance.

[Jeffrey]

We won't use that as his nickname, we promise.

[Jeff]

No, we'll come up with something better and do it with your second date update right after this. Hold on. Second date update? What's the famous saying? You don't have to outrun the bear, you just have to outrun the other guy. Yeah, and that's kind of how our listener Abby decided she likes a dude named Luke. Because she went on two average dates with two average guys. But it wasn't until after she met the second one she realized actually, maybe guy number one. Luke was slightly better. I pick him instead.

[Jeffrey]

Who's the bear in this analogy? I really.

[Jeff]

She's the bear, Brooke, Obviously you're the bear.

[Jeffrey]

Okay.

[Jeff]

And you're gonna maul the slower man.

[Jeffrey]

I always take the weakest link.

[Jeff]

You always do. But that's how Abby ended up here, looking for another chance with guy number one. But who knows? Maybe after this, she'll change her mind again, and next week we'll be calling average guy number two. Do you want us to keep a spot open for you, Abby, next week, just in case?

[Abby]

No, I'm gonna stick with Luke.

[Brian Christopher]

Give her a day like average week. Sundays.

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[Brian Christopher]

On the weekends.

[Jeff]

Whole lineup of average men for you to choose.

[Jeffrey]

I think it's pretty. Understand, like, you're back into the dating world. You kind of want to see what's out there a little bit. And it just happened to be your very first one was better than you realized.

[Jeff]

Yeah, but that's a big danger of playing the field right now in modern dating. Is there always seems to be a better option on the other side of the fence for you, Jeff.

[Jeffrey]

It hasn't been forever.

[Jeff]

I'm just saying, what's wrong to committing to the first man who approaches you?

[Announcer]

That could backfire pretty Badly, actually.

[Jeff]

Okay, Abby, maybe you keep that as an option for the next guy you meet, okay?

[Abby]

Okay.

[Jeff]

Okay. For now, we'll focus on Luke and see if he picks up the phone. I'm gonna dial his number right now.

[Luke]

Hello?

[Jeff]

Hey, is this Luke?

[Luke]

Who's this?

[Jeff]

My name is Jeff. I'm on a radio show called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning.

[Jeffrey]

Hey, Luke. Whole show's here.

[Brian Christopher]

What up, Luke?

[Luke]

This is all right. This is real.

[Jeffrey]

This is real.

[Jeff]

This is real life.

[Brian Christopher]

Unless you're asleep right now, we're all in your dreams.

[Jeff]

Yeah, you're on the radio right now. Is that okay?

[Luke]

I mean, depends. On what? What you need from me, but sure.

[Jeff]

Well, all we want to do is gently pry into your personal life.

[Jeffrey]

What a sell, Jack.

[Jeff]

Is that okay?

[Abby]

Sounds fun.

[Jeff]

Yeah, it's more fun than it sounds. It's a segment we do called Second Date Update.

[Luke]

Okay, you're the bear.

[Jeffrey]

You're the bear in this analogy right now, Jeff, just so you know the analogy.

[Luke]

Yeah, what's going on?

[Jeff]

This is a segment where we try to help listeners with their dating life. If they've gone out with somebody and they're not getting a call back, we can try and help figure out the reason why. And the girl who reached out to us about you is Abby. You went out with her like. Like two weeks ago?

[Luke]

Yeah. Okay.

[Jeffrey]

Okay. Are you upset with Abby?

[Luke]

I'm not that upset anymore. Okay. I mean, that makes sense.

[Brian Christopher]

But you were.

[Luke]

Well, yeah. Did she tell you what happened?

[Jeff]

Yeah. I'm assuming you're talking about when you two ran into each other again, like, a week later at the same brewery.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, really? I think he's talking about the text messages that she didn't answer.

[Luke]

I mean, both were gut punches.

[Jeff]

Okay, we're trying to do some investigative digging on Abby's behalf because she's the last person that texted you, and you haven't responded to her.

[Luke]

She didn't respond to me first.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, so it is one of those make her feel what you felt moment.

[Jeff]

I told you. Mind games. Not involved in dating at all.

[Luke]

I mean, she might be upset, too, because of the guy. Like, is she upset because of the. I mean, I talked to the guy in the bathroom.

[Jeffrey]

Wait, what?

[Jeff]

What guy?

[Brian Christopher]

Oh, her guy. Like her date?

[Luke]

Yeah, I ran into the guy at the bathroom, like, the guy she was on the date with, and.

[Brian Christopher]

Oh, she didn't tell us that. Dude, she knows that.

[Jeffrey]

What happened? What did you say?

[Luke]

I mean, I just told him the truth. You know, I told him if you go on a nice Date. She's gonna ghost you? Probably.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, why would you say that?

[Jeff]

What happened to you?

[Jeffrey]

He got ghosted.

[Luke]

Yeah. Why wouldn't I tell the guy the truth? I didn't go in there to tell him. He just happened to.

[Announcer]

But he didn't ask you.

[Jeffrey]

I know, but you would have appreciated it if somebody did that for you.

[Luke]

It was more of a bro code kind of thing. It wasn't.

[Jeff]

Okay, you. You warned this other guy that he was going to run into problems with Abby if he.

[Luke]

Not problems, just ghosting.

[Jeffrey]

Well, it's not. It doesn't even matter because she's not interested in that guy. She's going, like. Honestly? Yeah, she doesn't.

[Jeff]

Literally ghosting him.

[Jeffrey]

Like.

[Brian Christopher]

Like.

[Jeffrey]

I don't know. I don't know if she responded to him or not, but, like, she doesn't like that guy. She likes you.

[Brian Christopher]

Yeah.

[Luke]

Does she really? Come on.

[Jeffrey]

Y. She texted you and asked you to go out?

[Jeff]

I mean, the whole reason that she reached out to our show to call you was because there is genuine interest in what you two had going on. Yeah.

[Luke]

Oh, I thought she was just upset because of what I told the guy. I didn't. I thought she knew that.

[Jeff]

Well, it didn't sound like she was upset because she didn't bring that up to us. I don't even think she knows that happened.

[Brian Christopher]

Yeah, I don't know.

[Luke]

Yeah, I guess. I mean, he didn't say anything.

[Jeff]

Well, here's the thing. Now she does know about it. Because the way this works is we have Abby quietly listening on the other line waiting to talk to you.

[Luke]

Hey. You're telling me. You're telling.

[Jeffrey]

That's her?

[Luke]

Yeah, that was her.

[Jeffrey]

Look, that's Abby. Say hi.

[Luke]

Are you joking right now?

[Abby]

No, no.

[Brian Christopher]

I'm sorry, but it's real.

[Jeff]

But why don't you talk to her?

[Luke]

By the way, he's on the phone.

[Jeff]

Yeah, that's.

[Abby]

Hi. I'm actually wondering if you're the one that's joking. Are you being serious? So you talk to my date? Why would she tell him that I was going to ghost him?

[Luke]

Well, didn't you ghost him?

[Abby]

I mean, I haven't exactly happened to me.

[Brian Christopher]

It's such a bad, like, stumble.

[Jeffrey]

I mean, Abby, you obviously told him that because that's what you did to him.

[Abby]

Okay, but I mean, first of all, it's none of. No offense, Luke. It's not. That's not your business. And I'm genuinely. I would do it because I'm interested in going out with you again.

[Luke]

I have to Ask. Are you planning on seeing him again? I guess not. Because you're calling on the radio about me.

[Abby]

No, I'm not going to sue this other guy. And, yeah, I reached out to the radio because, look, like, I'm new to this and I liked you, and I get a lot of messages on the dating apps, and I'm not saying that to toot my own horn, but I'm realizing that a good first date doesn't always have to be, like, sparkles and magic and great, and I think it's a great building block. And so I was interested in you.

[Luke]

I mean, that's nice, but, like, if you're ghosting him again, this is a pattern.

[Brian Christopher]

No, if she sees him on a date with someone else, she'll text him again.

[Jeffrey]

She's only been in the dating world two weeks. I mean, I don't know if she's even been in it long enough to be a pal.

[Announcer]

You learn not to ghost eventually.

[Luke]

You know what? That's true, I guess. You seem sincere about it. Yeah.

[Jeff]

Okay. I mean, there's kind of an awkwardness happening between you two. Is this what the conversation on your guys's date was like? Because now I can kind of understand what you were saying.

[Brian Christopher]

Yeah, there's some ups, there's some downs.

[Luke]

Yeah.

[Brian Christopher]

Okay. Yeah.

[Jeff]

Having an okay time.

[Jeffrey]

I mean, you could at least tell him that you're not ghosting him anymore, because this cancels out that ghost.

[Announcer]

You texted him and called him.

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[Brian Christopher]

Hey. Yeah, so go ahead, Abby. Kind of.

[Abby]

I mean, look like I'm realizing some things here. I should write this other guy and just say thank you. I don't think it's a good fit.

[Jeffrey]

That's good. Look at that. Learning from mistakes.

[Abby]

Yeah. I am genuine. I'm being honest here.

[Brian Christopher]

What do you think of that, bro?

[Jeff]

Do you believe her, Luke?

[Luke]

I believe her. I think my expectations are still gonna be low, if that's okay with you.

[Brian Christopher]

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[Luke]

Aww.

[Jeff]

What a romantic thing to say.

[Jeffrey]

I think that's always so good. I would love low expectations.

[Jeff]

Yeah. For real. I expect absolutely nothing from you going.

[Jeffrey]

Forward, and I want that so you can impress him with anything.

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[Brian Christopher]

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[Jeff]

Now that we've set the bar way, way down, we would like to offer to send you two on another date. And we would pay for it.

[Brian Christopher]

It.

[Jeff]

I'm going to give the option to Luke first, since you're the person that.

[Luke]

We were calling, buddy, I will say yes, but I have to say, I expectations are low, and I expect you to ghost me after the second date.

[Jeff]

Oh, wow.

[Jeffrey]

Is it disappointing if she doesn't now?

[Jeff]

Yes.

[Luke]

Hey, we can only go up from here.

[Jeffrey]

Hey, there we go. That's hope.

[Jeff]

There you go. Abby, you scored a date with Luke.

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Yeah, it will be.

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If you still want it, that is. Are you still interested?

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Change your mind now or have you.

[Jeff]

Gone back to guy number two again?

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No, no, no. I'm interested in Luke. I want to go on another date.

[Jeff]

Same brewery for a third time in a row.

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We're going to run into the other guy.

[Jeffrey]

That bartender is gonna be like, what is happening?

[Jeff]

Jeffrey in the morning.

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I gotta say, I'm kind of proud of Abby on that one because she had every right to be upset after learning Luke had Talked to her date in the bathroom. She totally could have changed her mind, but no, she stuck to her guns and said, I don't care if Luke is bad mouthing me behind my back to the other guys that I'm dating. I committed to him early on and I am sticking with it.

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Just a warning.

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Yeah.

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Oh.

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