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Brooke
Hey, it's Brooke and Jeffrey and you found the second date podcast and we've got a brand new Halloween second date for you today. Oh, man. All I guess we can say is an unexpected family member shows up on the date. Always a good thing.
Jeffrey
Yeah.
Nikki
Yes.
Brooke
Yes. I'm curious to hear, after you hear this, who thinks it was just a drunk mistake and who thinks it was real? Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Because I think there's a big debate right now. So we'll get to that in just a second. But first, your comments. What do you see? Alexis?
Jeffrey
Yes.
Brooke
Meredith commented and said, I've been listening to you guys for over a year now and this will be my first Halloween and Christmas with everyone on the show. I love it. That's so fun. Love you guys and love this show, dude. Oh gosh, I love that. Well, thanks for being with the holidays with us. Yeah, happy first Halloween with us for sure. And we're gonna get it started right now.
Jeffrey
Second date update. I'm not just playing this music cuz it's the spooky season. I'm also doing it cuz if there was one emotion that best describes the feeling of falling in love, it's fear.
Brooke
Oh, Jeff, absolutely. Of course it's scary, but it's like good scary. It's not bad scary, right? Titles make me want to scream. Screen. Okay, Alexis.
Jeffrey
Alexis knows some relationship experts say finding true love should scare you. You should wake up in the morning, roll over and look at them and say, ah, I love you. That's how you know it's real.
Brooke
Yeah.
Jeffrey
And one of our listeners has those initial pangs of tear over a guy that she really likes. Her name is Nikki. So, Nikki, welcome to the show.
Nikki
Hi guys. Thanks.
Brooke
Okay, you do sound hesitant.
Jeffrey
She sounds terrified right now. I don't know if that's just because you're talking to us or because the emotions you have for this guy you met are so strong.
Nikki
I mean, there's just a lot of mixed feelings Happening right now. There is the weirdness that happens. There's the feelings of, where has this guy been? It's just like, I'm all over the place.
Brooke
Where has he been? Okay, did you meet him in a back alley?
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Jeffrey
Let's start at the beginning. What's his name and how did you meet him?
Nikki
No, no, no. So I was out with a friend, and we met some guys at the club.
Brooke
Hey.
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Nikki
Yeah, super fun.
Jeffrey
Hey, we're clubbing back in the 1980s.
Brooke
I was not in the 1980s. Why do you do that to me?
Jeffrey
I'm going off your lingo.
Brooke
I'd be 20 years ago and still be in the 21st century.
Jeffrey
Jeff, no one was going, hey, 20 years ago.
Brooke
She would hang out with me at the club. I get down.
Jeffrey
I would. Sorry. You met some guys at the club?
Nikki
Yes. Yeah, my friend and I. So we met the guys. One, he was a used car salesman, and then the other was a minor league hockey player.
Jeffrey
Wait, wait, are those Halloween costumes or are those their actual jobs?
Nikki
No, these are their actual jobs, but they dressed like each other.
Brooke
Oh, it is a Halloween thing that was happening at the club.
Nikki
So the hockey guy was dressed as a car salesman, and then the car salesman was dressed as the hockey player.
Brooke
Okay, which one were you interested in?
Nikki
I thought that Eric. Eric was cute. He was dressed as a hockey player.
Brooke
So he was actually a used car salesman.
Jeffrey
Oh, okay. Oh, Alexis is booing you.
Brooke
Sorry, that was not on.
Jeffrey
Sorry. The microphones are on, Alexis.
Nikki
No, it's fine. No, he was definitely the sweeter one. We hung out and danced for, like, the whole night. And then the guys asked if we wanted to go back to their place and just hang. And we were like, yeah, sure.
Brooke
Okay.
Nikki
Playing drinking games. And the guys mentioned that they had a Ouija board.
Jeffrey
Oh, no, keep it. The Halloween theme.
Brooke
That's 80s. Finally.
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Brooke
There you go.
Jeffrey
Okay. We finally hit the mark. How did it go?
Nikki
So this one must have been real or something, because we asked the ghost that, like, that we were talking to what their name was, and the ghost spelled out Maria, which you guys, so, so weird. That is my grandma's name. My grandma's name was Maria.
Jeffrey
What?
Brooke
Yeah.
Nikki
I was immediately freaked out. I. I don't.
Jeffrey
That is. That is a weird coincidence that it would just happen. Okay.
Brooke
It's a pretty common name, but yeah.
Jeffrey
Okay. Brooke doesn't believe you.
Brooke
Well, just. I mean, a lot of ghosts are gonna have grandma names.
Eric
Yeah. Well, good.
Jeffrey
Let's go shame the dead grandmas, too. So. Okay, there's a chance that you're talking to your passed away grandma.
Nikki
Right. And so my thought was like, well, let me try and ask and see, like, a little bit more detail. And I asked, what's your favorite food? And it's spelled beans.
Brooke
Beans.
Jeffrey
Beans.
Nikki
Beans. My grandma made a famous bean dip. Like, that's what she was known for.
Jeffrey
Weird.
Brooke
At this point, have you told your friend and these guys, you think you're talking to your grandmother?
Nikki
No, no, no, no, I didn't tell them. I was just, like, kind of frozen inside.
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Nikki
And also, we're really drunk, so I was like, oh, my God.
Jeffrey
So what else happens with the Ouija board?
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Later?
Nikki
We asked it, where are you right now? And it's spelled closet.
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Eric
No.
Jeffrey
Heck, no.
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Jeffrey
Oh, my God. Right? Your grandma's in the closet. Burn the closet.
Brooke
Who opened it?
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Brooke
Did you open the closet?
Nikki
No, we got too freaked out, and we said, that's it. We're not playing anymore. No way.
Jeffrey
Oh, my gosh.
Brooke
But I think it's kind of a rule in Ouija that you have to say goodbye. You do, or else it stays around and haunts you. Yeah, that's like the. Yeah, you have to send the spirit till you're done.
Jeffrey
Did you do that, Nikki?
Nikki
No, we just, like, put it away.
Brooke
Oh, God. It's like, the number one rule.
Jeffrey
Okay, and now this is all happening in the middle of your first, like, hangout with this guy Eric.
Brooke
Dude, you're probably so in your head now because you think you're just talking to your grandmother, right? How could you possibly be in the mood to, like, flirt with.
Jeffrey
How do you. How do you keep it going after Ouija board?
Nikki
So, yeah, after we put the game away, I wanted to get out of there, but I needed to explain to Eric why. So I took him into his room, I closed the door, and I started telling him about, like, my grandma and the bean dip and how just crazy that all was.
Brooke
I can guarantee you, when you took him into his bedroom and shut the door, he thought something totally different was gonna happen.
Nikki
Oh, my gosh. I wasn't even thinking about that. I was just like, a ball of goosebumps.
Jeffrey
How did Eric react when you said that to him?
Nikki
He just had this frozen look on his face, and I was like, I'm so sorry. I've got to go. I'll call you later.
Jeffrey
He was probably freaked out by it a little bit, too.
Eric
Yeah.
Brooke
Either that or that's why he's not calling her back, because she took it too seriously.
Jeffrey
Yeah. And you and your friend left after that. So how long has it been?
Nikki
It's been like two weeks. And I still haven't heard anything back from him?
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Brooke
So you've reached out and gotten nothing?
Jeffrey
What if grandma got to him first?
Brooke
He didn't say goodbye. I say that's the rule, but also, like, come on. It's like a game made by Parker.
Jeffrey
Brothers, but still, it's a gateway to the undead Brothers.
Brooke
You were just on board.
Jeffrey
What happened?
Brooke
Yeah, where did you lose you? It's fun to, like, scare myself, but, like, the logic of it.
Jeffrey
Sure, there's a Parker Brothers version, but maybe they had the real thing.
Eric
Oh.
Jeffrey
Made with blood and bones from, like, a Goodwill in Salem, Massachusetts. So it's possible is all I'm saying. We don't know the truth until we come back. Call Eric and find out what's really going on with him, Nikki and her grandma.
Brooke
I don't think we're gonna ask about Marie.
Jeffrey
Let's just ask about the date when we come back for your second date update right after this. Hold on.
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Jeffrey
You know, normally when we talk in this segment about people being ghosted, we don't mean talking with an actual ghost of a dead relative.
Brooke
It's a good point, Jeff, but we are so literal today.
Jeffrey
Seriously. That was the case for our listene Nikki, who played with a Ouija board with some of her friends and a cute guy she met named Eric.
Brooke
It's Ouija.
Jeffrey
Well, it's spelled Ouija.
Brooke
It doesn't matter how it's spelled.
Jeffrey
It's like, ow. That's true. I don't want to make the Ouija gods mad at us. So Ouija and the ghost in the board identified themselves as Maria, the same name as Nikki's grandmother.
Brooke
So crazy.
Jeffrey
It was weird. And a few questions later, they all had to stop playing because the Ouija board was giving them answers that were all freaking them out.
Brooke
I go back and forth on this stuff, Nikki, but I totally understand why you were so freaked out by that drunk at night playing it too.
Jeffrey
Yeah, yeah, it was definitely weird enough to the point where it ended their night together. And now Eric's not even responding to her texts anymore.
Nikki
Yeah, yeah, it was just a really weird night. I can't make this up.
Jeffrey
And you know that those guys didn't know your grandma. They never had her beaned it before. Never been around that closet ever.
Nikki
Eric didn't know anything until I told him in his room.
Washable Sofas Announcer
Wow.
Brooke
I totally believe. I think people can mess with them, but I think they can be real also. Yeah, both things.
Jeffrey
Well, Nikki, we can't let you go on being blocked by your own deceased grandma to get some action. That's just not fair.
Brooke
She didn't close out the game. Right, Jeff?
Jeffrey
Yeah, well, that'd have been hilarious. She spells out kiss her.
Washable Sofas Announcer
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Jeffrey
We'Ll try to make things right. We're gonna dial Eric right now and see if he answers. But here we go.
Brooke
Hello?
Jeffrey
Hey, is this Eric?
Eric
Yeah, this is Eric. Who's this? Hey, man.
Jeffrey
This is a. Actually it's a whole radio show called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning.
Brooke
Hi, welcome to the show.
Jeffrey
Eric, Good morning. I'm Jose. I'm a ghost.
Eric
Hey. What. What's up? Sorry, bro.
Jeffrey
We're calling because we're doing a segment called a second date Update. Trying to help out one of our listeners that you met the other night. A woman named Nikki.
Eric
Oh, God.
Brooke
What do you mean, oh God? Nikki wants that response.
Jeffrey
Are you freaked out? Is that what you say? Oh, God, no.
Brooke
Nikki from the club? Yeah, cute Nikki from the Clerb.
Jeffrey
Yeah, we talked to her about you two met at like a Halloween themed club night.
Eric
I mean, I feel weird talking about this because something happened that night and I really can't explain it. I don't think I'll be able to look at her the same way.
Brooke
What? Oh, look at her.
Jeffrey
Look at her. That's a weird comment there. Yeah.
Brooke
Because we thought you were talking about the Ouija board.
Jeffrey
The Owie Jaboard. Pronounce it right, Brooks. There we go. Right.
Eric
Okay, so she told you we did that?
Jeffrey
Yes. And she herself mentioned that things got kind of freaky once the Ouija board came out.
Brooke
And for her, right, for.
Jeffrey
Yeah, for her.
Brooke
Because you didn't even know. Like, you didn't know her grandma's name was Maria or anything or that she made a day?
Eric
No, no, I. I had no idea. But we did the Ouija board and it spelled out Maria. And I didn't know it was her grandmother's name. Then. I don't know if she told you about how it said it was in the closet.
Brooke
Oh, yeah, she said that was like the final straw.
Jeffrey
Right? That all of you kind of panicked in the moment and decided to stop playing.
Eric
Yeah, like it was. It was scary as hell. She like freaked it, like, freaked out. Yeah, I thought maybe she was drunk or whatever.
Brooke
Well, because at that point you didn't understand that she thought she had been talking to her grandma.
Eric
Yeah, yeah, totally. I thought like, okay, like, yeah, let's be grown ups here. It's just a game. But then at that point, she says, I need some alone time with you. And I'm like, okay.
Jeffrey
Wow, Weird transition.
Eric
Yeah, I didn't see that coming. But okay, I'll go into my room, see what happens. And she shuts the door behind her, and I try to make a move. And then suddenly he says to me in this, like, weird old lady voice.
Brooke
What?
Eric
She says, that's not how you treat a lady, young man.
Brooke
What? Wait, wait, Nikki said that in an old lady voice?
Eric
Yeah, like it wasn't her voice at all. It didn't sound like her at all.
Jeffrey
I wonder if she remembers even saying that.
Brooke
Okay, come on, dude, calm down.
Jeffrey
She was probably joking. Like, you tried to kiss her. She, like, wanted to make, like, a funny, funny moment.
Eric
I. I have no idea. And I didn't have a chance to find out because I said, excuse me, and then she said, I gotta go.
Brooke
Well, okay, so what's interesting is she told us that you guys went into your bedroom, but she said the only thing she said was that she thought she was talking to her grandmother and she had to go.
Eric
Yeah, she did say that first, but then she also spoke to me with the voice of maybe her grandma. I have no idea.
Brooke
Is that what you. Is that, like, truly. Is that what you think?
Jeffrey
Like, that's the reason why you're not calling her?
Eric
I mean, it was so weird. I'm getting tingles just thinking about it.
Jeffrey
Just so you know, Eric, she didn't mention any of that when we talked to her earlier, but.
Eric
What?
Jeffrey
Yeah, I mean, it didn't come up. I don't know if that's on purpose or not, but I wonder if she remembers. I probably should tell you that she is on the phone. Nikki. Not Maria, the grandma. But yeah, she might be. The lights did flicker a little bit in studio when I said that, so. Nikki, are you there?
Nikki
Yeah, I'm here.
Brooke
Oh, my God, Nikki, was that a joke? Nikki, were you joking when you did that voice?
Nikki
No, I don't know what he's talking about.
Eric
Oh, my gosh. I'm telling you guys.
Jeffrey
Wait, what?
Eric
You don't remember saying that to me?
Nikki
Eric, shut up. Seriously, you're making that up.
Eric
Oh, hell no. I swear to. I swear to you. You said that's not how you treat a lady young man in, like, an old lady's voice.
Jeffrey
Oh, my gosh.
Brooke
Nikki, are you joking right now?
Jeffrey
What's going on?
Brooke
Is this like a big Halloween?
Nikki
Honest. Don't know what he's talking about. Eric, what you think you Think that my grandma possessed me or something? I. I don't know.
Eric
I don't know what happened. All I know is that your voice, like, totally changed and, like, your face dropped. And you don't remember saying that at all.
Nikki
Okay, okay. No, I. I don't remember saying that because I didn't say it. Okay, can you do.
Brooke
Can you do an old lady voice? Like, maybe you were too drunk and you didn't remember old lady impressions. Can you do an old lady voice?
Jeffrey
Try it.
Nikki
I don't do old lady voices. Like, no. First of all, yes, I was drinking, so I don't remember everything I said. But that story is just ridiculous. That's ridiculous.
Eric
Texting me and you're saying, like, do you want to come over? And I'm like, I don't even know what to think. Is, Is that your grandpa texting, or is that you texting.
Jeffrey
Still in there? When you kissed her, did she taste like beans?
Brooke
Because then we know they never kiss.
Jeffrey
They said he didn't kiss, so we're not gonna know.
Brooke
That's not how you treat a lady, remember?
Jeffrey
Oh, that's right. My bad.
Eric
I know, I know this seems funny, guys, but, like, this is the scariest thing that's ever happened to me. And I, like, I just so you know, Nikki, I, I. I threw out that Ouija board. I was so freaked out.
Brooke
We're not supposed to throw them out. It's not a rule. Right.
Jeffrey
Yeah, and the rule is you're supposed to say goodbye to the ghost before you put it away. And Nikki said you didn't do that.
Eric
No, I didn't put it away. I didn't say goodbye. I staged my apartment and I put my pillow over my head.
Jeffrey
No, that's not in the Parker brothers rulebook.
Brooke
I mean, honestly, you gotta find that Ouija board, man. You gotta talk to Grandma again.
Nikki
Oh, my gosh. I, I'm, like, freaked out right now. This is not how things were supposed to happen. I have no idea what's happening.
Jeffrey
A lot is going on. This is freaking a lot of people out. And at this point, I would like to ask Nikki, would you like to go out on another date with her?
Brooke
What point? The Ouija board, yes or no?
Jeffrey
We would pay for it. If you're willing to see Eric one more time and at least try to figure out what really happened that night.
Nikki
I need to process and wrap my head around. Is there a way that, like, we can talk, Eric?
Jeffrey
Yeah.
Eric
Yeah, I don't think I can talk with you. Honestly, like, I'm so Freaked out. I don't know if I'm going to talk to you or your grandma. It's like this is too much.
Jeffrey
Well, on the positive side, Eric, it sounded like her grandma was kind of attracted to you.
Brooke
Yeah.
Jeffrey
Yeah, she's want to set some boundaries.
Brooke
Yeah.
Eric
Yeah. That doesn't make me feel better, guys. Honestly.
Jeffrey
Well, I just think she was rooting for you. She wanted you to treat Nikki like a lady. And it's not very gentlemanly, like to back away from Nikki when she's going through something like this.
Brooke
I mean, if anything, you better make some bean dip as an offering right now.
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Eric
I don't know what to do. Really, guys, Honestly.
Brooke
Oh, he's actually.
Jeffrey
Okay. Hey, you like her, she likes you. It's just the grandma that you're upset about.
Brooke
But I think it's like once you see somebody possessed, can you still find them attractive?
Jeffrey
Okay, so sounding to me like you're too scared, you don't even want to give it a shot.
Eric
No, I think I'm going to move on from this and hopefully, you know, I can. I don't know. But yeah, I'm not into this.
Jeffrey
Oh, wow.
Brooke
Maybe just give us a wellness check at like six months just to make.
Jeffrey
Sure you're still good with day after Halloween. Tell us. I would say six minutes. That's all it takes. Look at Jeffrey in the morning.
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Jeffrey
Man, I haven't seen the text board like this in a while. At 78592 people are kind of freaking out. Maybe they're overreacting. I don't know.
Brooke
I don't know either because like, we're so used to joking in these moments that that guy legitimately sounded scared. Yeah, yeah.
Jeffrey
It was hard to know how to react. One person says, if I'm that guy, I'd move out of that apartment today. Grandma's still in there. Probably visiting him at night.
Brooke
Yeah, they did it all wrong. Is their fault. And they say that until you see rent price and then you're like, actually, grandma's not as scary as the rental market.
Jeffrey
Actually, maybe Grandma could contribute to the rent. Exactly.
Brooke
If you're gonna live here.
Jeffrey
Another says he's gonna start smelling beans coming from the kitchen when nobody's there. That would be amazing for sure. Others are saying she was just drunk and clearly doesn't remember saying that. I don't know. So that's another option we didn't talk about. None of this could have happened.
Brooke
Okay.
Jeffrey
Honestly could have thought it. She doesn't remember it. The shrooms kicked in.
Brooke
You know, it could have all happened.
Jeffrey
Maybe. We don't know. But listen, if her grandma is listening to this right now. Grandma, I hope you go visit to our podcast.
Brooke
Oh, ask her to subscribe too.
Jeffrey
Subscribe, Grandma. We need more listeners. Visit our kitchens and make sure to.
Brooke
Talk to her like a gentleman. Yeah, she likes.
Jeffrey
Maybe her grandma will even call in for an awkward Tuesday phone call.
Brooke
Have we ever done one post?
Jeffrey
No. So tell your dead relatives to call in and maybe we can help them in their personal lives. You can find us wherever you get your podcasts online at Brooke and Jeffrey.
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Podcast: Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Episode Date: October 29, 2025
Theme: A Halloween-themed “ghosting” saga featuring mysterious Ouija board messages, possessed grandma vibes, and a haunted bean dip.
On this Halloween special of Second Date Update, Brooke and Jeffrey help a listener, Nikki, who had a spooky first date with Eric that ended with her being ghosted—quite literally, perhaps, given the creepy events involving a Ouija board and her deceased grandma’s bean dip. The hosts, along with their co-hosts Alexis and Jose, try to unpack whether Nikki’s paranormal encounter is a drunken mishap, a joke gone wrong, or genuine supernatural interference. As always, they call the other half of the date (Eric) to get his side of the story, leading to one of the weirdest and most entertaining updates in the show’s history.
The group returns to the guys’ place for drinking games and try out a Ouija board.
They ask the spirit’s name—the board spells “Maria,” Nikki’s deceased grandmother’s name. Nikki internally freaks out but says nothing.
They ask the ghost its favorite food—the board spells “beans,” another major coincidence, as Nikki’s grandma was known for her bean dip.
When they ask, “Where are you right now?” the board says “closet.” At this point, everyone is too freaked out to continue.
Nikki did not properly close the Ouija session (“say goodbye”), which worries the hosts.
“So this one must have been real or something, because we asked the ghost ... what their name was, and the ghost spelled out Maria, which you guys, so, so weird. That is my grandma’s name. My grandma’s name was Maria.”
— Nikki (07:14)
The hosts riff on Parker Brothers, the origins of Ouija, and whether Nikki is actually blocked by her dead grandma.
They speculate whether failing to say goodbye kept the spirit around.
“It’s a gateway to the undead, Brooke!”
— Jeffrey (10:24)
“That’s not how you treat a lady, young man.”
— Eric, quoting Nikki (15:19)
“This is the scariest thing that’s ever happened to me ... I don’t know if I’m going to talk to you or your grandma.”
— Eric (18:29, 19:23)
The tone is breezy, sarcastic, and filled with playful skepticism and late-night radio banter. Brooke and Jeffrey oscillate between poking fun at the supernatural and genuinely wondering if something weird happened. Eric is noticeably shaken, lending a genuine sense of unease to an otherwise lighthearted Halloween special.
This Halloween Second Date Update delivers big on both the laughs and the chills. Was Nikki possessed by her grandma? Was Eric just spooked by party antics and booze? The question is left unresolved, but one thing’s clear: neither Eric nor Nikki will be playing with Ouija boards together again anytime soon. Whether you’re a believer or just here for the entertainment, this is a classic “ghosting” story—literally and figuratively.