Second Date Update: Halloween Boos and Booze Bar Crawl

Summary

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Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update

Episode: Halloween Boos and Booze Bar Crawl
Release Date: October 31, 2025
Podcast Host: iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

This Halloween-themed episode of "Second Date Update" centers around Evan, who contacted Brooke and Jeffrey after being ghosted by Calista following what he thought was a promising bar crawl date. The show's hosts dig into not just what happened during their festive night out but also the reasons behind Calista's reluctance to see him again. Costumes, humor, dance floor disasters, and childhood pumpkin trauma all come to the surface in this lighthearted, banter-filled episode.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Festive Atmosphere and Costumes

• The hosts open the show by celebrating Halloween and describing their costumes:
  • Brooke: Ursula
  • Jeffrey: Maleficent (aka "Maleficente")
  • Alexis: Cruella Deville
• "I am so proud of our costumes this year. Go look at the TikToks. Leave us a comment, let us know whose is your favorite." — Brooke [03:14]

2. Setting the Scene: The Halloween Bar Crawl

• Evan, the guest, explains he met Calista during a Halloween bar crawl, each embedded in their separate groups that eventually merged.
• Evan’s costume: Star Lord from Guardians of the Galaxy.
  • "I went as Star Lord from Guardians. I think I have a look that matches." — Evan [04:42]

3. Bar Crawl Connection

• Shared humor and a love of people-watching:
  • "We loved the people watching... the cheaper the better [with costumes], we really realized." — Evan [06:22]
• The groups started handing out fake 'awards' for best and worst costumes at each bar.
  • "We just started giving out awards...craziest food costume, ugliest blank costume, second worst costume of this bar." — Evan [07:15]
• The night concluded with a kiss at the bar, but Evan admits it wasn’t a full-on make-out.
  • "We definitely kissed at the bar." — Evan [07:33]

4. Dancing Dilemma: The Turning Point

• Calista wanted to go dancing at the last bar; Evan, burdened by a deep-seated reluctance, refused multiple times.
• "She really wanted to get out on the dance floor...I am not a dancer. It’s just not my thing." — Evan [07:49]
• Evan’s friends were more interested in drinking than socializing, while he was focused on Calista.

5. Texting after the Date — But No Real Progress

• Since that night, Evan and Calista exchanged messages, but she has been non-committal about another date.
• The hosts speculate:
  • "Maybe having a radio station call will prove you’re a fun guy?" — Brooke [08:56]
  • "If you’re out with a guy who won’t dance, is that a deal breaker?" — Jeffrey [09:04]
• "Think of all the weddings you have to go to in the future... dancing is such an important part of social life." — Brooke [09:17]

6. Calista’s Reason for Ghosting: “Pumpkin Man” Trauma

• Calista reveals a pivotal moment: Evan’s childhood trauma is a turn-off for her.
  • "He basically told me, he doesn’t like dancing because when he was 10, his mom put him in this play where he was a pumpkin and had to dance in front of everyone...If you’re that affected by something like that, you probably can’t handle anything in life." — Calista [14:10]
• Evan elaborates: For years, his mom made him wear a skin-tight orange suit and a pumpkin helmet to dance at the town Halloween festival, making him locally infamous as "Pumpkin Man."
  • "My mom would force me to wear a skin tight, like, orange suit and put a pumpkin on my head to go dance in front of the town." — Evan [15:57]

7. Judgment and Empathy

• The group debates whether this trauma is reasonable or if Calista is being harsh.
• "Maybe just give him a chance to dance with you eventually, because the good experience will outweigh the trauma that he had." — Brooke [17:25]
• Calista hesitantly agrees to one more chance, on the condition Evan tries dancing with her.

8. Resolution: Will They Try Again?

• Evan agrees to give dancing a shot, and Calista says she'll give him another date — as long as he gets out on the dance floor.
  • "I’ll get out there. I’ll show what little moves I have." — Evan [19:03]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Costume Judging:
  "You can go hop between bars and drink alone anytime." — Brooke [05:53]
• On Halloween Bar Crawl Romance:
  "Did you make out?" — Brooke [07:29]
  "I wouldn’t call it a make out, but yeah...we kissed." — Evan [07:33]
• On Dancing and Trauma:
  "If you’re out with a guy who won’t dance, is that a deal breaker?" — Jeffrey [09:04]
  "Dancing is such an important part of social life." — Brooke [09:17]
• On Past Scarring Experiences:
  "I became Pumpkin Man to everybody. I was known as Pumpkin Man every year." — Evan [16:13]
• On Relationship Expectations:
  "I just want to be with someone that is, like, fun and can dance, and I don’t want to be dealing with their past traumas." — Calista [17:38]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Halloween Costume Banter: [03:07–03:43]
• Evan Describes Bar Crawl and Costume: [04:42–05:09]
• Connection and Joke Awards: [06:22–07:15]
• Kiss at the Bar: [07:33]
• Dancing Dispute: [07:49–08:16]
• Hosts’ Speculation and Social Life Debate: [08:56–09:25]
• Calista’s “Pumpkin Man” Turn-Off Revealed: [14:10–14:56]
• Evan’s Pumpkin Suit Childhood Story: [15:57–16:13]
• Resolution and Agreement for Second Date: [19:03–19:12]

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Episode Tone and Style

The hosts keep a lively, playful banter, mixing playful teasing ("Lord of the Pumpkins!") with genuine empathy. They balance group support for both sides with typical morning show goofiness, especially when relating Evan’s story to cinematic references like "Footloose."

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Conclusion

The episode wraps with both Evan and Calista cautiously agreeing to a future date — provided Evan is willing to face his dance floor fright. The story not only highlights the unpredictable nature of first encounters but also the humorous baggage people can carry from their childhoods, especially when it involves orange spandex and small-town notoriety.

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Listen to full episodes and more second date updates on iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts, or Spotify.

Transcript

[Jeffrey]

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[Brooke]

Every now and then I rinse it out and I deep down it tonight and I need it more.

[Jeffrey]

My kid wears a bed and the smell never leaves.

[Brooke]

I don't know what to do I'm.

[Jeffrey]

Always in the dark.

[Evan/Calista]

The sweat and dead short smells like.

[Jeffrey]

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[Brooke]

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[Evan/Calista]

Hold up.

[Jeffrey]

A real life cult? And what is a dirt ritual?

[Brooke]

No clue, Dakota. Find out how it ends. Listen to the OK Storytime Pod podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Jeffrey]

What's up everybody? It's snacks from the trap Nerds. All October long we're bringing you the Horror. Boogity boogity boogity. We kicking off this month with some of my best horror games to keep you terrified. Then we'll be talking about our favorite horror and Halloween movies and figuring out why black people always die first. And it's the return of Tony's horror show Side Quest, written and narrated by yours truly. We'll also be doing a full episode reading with commentary and we'll cap it off with a horror movie battle royale. Open your free Aha. Radio In Search Trap Nerds podcast and listen. Now.

[Brooke]

I think you can hear in our voices that we're a little bitous. It's the scariest laugh I've ever heard. Right, Jose?

[Jeffrey]

Yeah. My, my, My giggle wasn't scary.

[Brooke]

No, it wasn't either. Hey, welcome to the podcast. It is the Halloween edition. It's Brook and Jeffrey in the morning. If you do not follow our socials, then boo you. Come on. I'm dressed up as Ursula.

[Jeffrey]

I am Maleficent. Or as I like to call myself, Maleficente.

[Brooke]

Okay. Little Latin twist to it. I'm down with that.

[Jeffrey]

I'm scary.

[Brooke]

Yeah. And Alexis. I'm Cruella Deville. Dude, I gotta say, I am so proud of our costumes this year. Yeah. So definitely. Go look at the Tiktoks. Go look at the Insta. Leave us a comment, let us know whose is your favorite.

[Jeffrey]

You can see who everyone else is. Ashley, we have Ashton, everyone.

[Evan/Calista]

Oh.

[Brooke]

Oh, it's Bite me. So, okay, okay, enough about our Disney villain group costume. Let's get into it. A brand new Halloween second right now.

[Jeffrey]

Second date update. Imagine the night is alive with chaos. Zombies are stumbling down the streets. Witches are cackling maniacally. You hear the screams. You see the horrors. You smell the fireball.

[Brooke]

What?

[Jeffrey]

And that's when you realize, oh, I'm in the middle of a Halloween bar crawl right now. And for all the terrifying sights you'll definitely see, it might also be the perfect setting for you to find true love.

[Brooke]

Trick or treat.

[Jeffrey]

That's where one of our listeners made a connection recently and he's emailed us for help today with a spooky themed second date update. I love that his name is Evan. So, Evan, we got to catch up. How many shots deep are you right now?

[Evan/Calista]

I. You know, it's a work day. I'm not going to take shots.

[Brooke]

Whatever. I'm still a bar four.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, okay.

[Brooke]

I want to know what you were dressed as. That's how I want to start.

[Evan/Calista]

Most the of important, I went as Star Lord from Guardians. I think I have a look that matches.

[Brooke]

Is that the Chris Pratt?

[Evan/Calista]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

Is that hot look or.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah. Doesn't that like, cover most of You?

[Brooke]

I can't remember.

[Jeffrey]

I really don't know. I never watched. None of us have seen the movies.

[Brooke]

Yeah, it doesn't stick out a ton to me, but.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, so we don't approve of your costume. Can you come up with a new.

[Brooke]

One, or do people know what you were?

[Jeffrey]

I guess that's the question.

[Evan/Calista]

People knew.

[Jeffrey]

Okay.

[Evan/Calista]

He's a charismatic character.

[Jeffrey]

I would trust other people to know stuff more than this group would, so. Definitely. So tell us about this woman that you met while you were doing your bar crawl. What's her name?

[Evan/Calista]

Her name is Calista. I honestly can't remember which bar that we met, but it was. We were both of two big groups, and our groups just sort of naturally kind of like, started going on this crawl together.

[Brooke]

Oh, that's always fun. I mean, that's the whole point of bar crawls, right? To meet new people? Oh, yeah.

[Jeffrey]

Running with people.

[Brooke]

Totally.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, I thought it was just to get drunk.

[Brooke]

That's just.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, I thought the social thing was kind of secondary. So you just, like, happen to meet people. Okay.

[Brooke]

You can go hop between bars and drink alone anytime.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Okay, but this one. You're wearing costumes. So fun.

[Evan/Calista]

I mean, I would definitely agree with all of that. I was definitely probably steering our group to stick with hers because I was into her.

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Evan/Calista]

Whereas my friends just wanted to keep drinking. They didn't care about the social part.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, so I'll hook up with your friends after we're done with this call, because they seem like my type of people.

[Brooke]

How did you and Calista. I mean, like, what was the connection between you two? What did you have in common?

[Evan/Calista]

I mean, I think it was just, like, our type of sense of humor. We just loved the people watching and looking at people's costumes and how silly they looked. The cheaper the better, we really realized.

[Brooke]

Oh, interesting.

[Evan/Calista]

Like, nothing that looked like it was just pulled off the shelf of spirit. Halloween the hours before, like, the big tacos.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, so you're bonding over the shared interest of judging other people for their weird costume decisions.

[Brooke]

Just like, people decisions is what it was. Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, well, that could be fun. So how did the night go?

[Evan/Calista]

I thought it was going great. I mean, we were having a great time. One of the bars had just paper. I'm assuming it was from one of their trivia nights. It was papers and pen. And we just started, like, giving out awards. Like, we just pick people. Be like, you have, like, the craziest food costume. You have the ugliest blank costume. Second worst costume of this Bar.

[Jeffrey]

That's awesome. All right, so you and Calista made a lot of enemies that night. Probably, it sounds like.

[Brooke]

But you're in your own world, and.

[Jeffrey]

That'S all that matters. It's you two, right? Even if someone's upset, you're like, oh, my God, we really made that guy mad. Let's make out.

[Brooke]

Yeah. Yeah. Wait, did that happen? Did you make out?

[Jeffrey]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

Good question.

[Evan/Calista]

I wouldn't call it a make out, but yeah. At the last bar of the night. We definitely kissed at the bar. We kissed.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, that happened. You're painting a really nice image for us. We want to know, is there anything in your mind that you remember that went wrong with the evening?

[Evan/Calista]

On the last bar? They had a dance floor, and she really wanted to get out on the dance floor, regardless of what I was dressed up as? Because we know Star Lord is a dancer. I am not a dancer. It's just not my thing.

[Jeffrey]

Like you're a bad dancer or you won't even try.

[Evan/Calista]

All of the above.

[Jeffrey]

Did she try to pull you in and dance with you at some point? You said no.

[Evan/Calista]

Multiple times. Multiple times.

[Jeffrey]

You may seem like you're not fun.

[Brooke]

Then you know it is a bummer, because it's like, in my mind, there's no such thing as a bad dancer. If you fully commit, you're fun no matter how good you are at even.

[Jeffrey]

Bad dancing is fun Dancing.

[Brooke]

Yeah, exactly.

[Jeffrey]

That's exactly what bad dancers say. All that matters is I'm having a good time. Last place in the dance concert.

[Brooke]

So what?

[Jeffrey]

I'm kicked off every dance floor. So you're thinking that she's just turned off because you came across as kind of a party pooper. Is that right?

[Evan/Calista]

Yeah, I think she might think I'm just some stick in the mud or a bit of a lame. Oh, and I. I mean, we've had a lot of texts back and forth. It's just non. Commit. She won't commit to going on a date.

[Brooke]

Maybe. Maybe having a radio station call will prove that you're a fun guy, you know?

[Evan/Calista]

There we go. Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

I mean, if that's the case, Alexis, would this be a deal breaker for you if you're out with a guy who prefers not to dance?

[Brooke]

I mean. Yeah, I can't look bad alone out there.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

Come down with me.

[Jeffrey]

That's tr.

[Brooke]

Think of all the weddings you have to go to in the future if you end up a couple. Yeah. Dancing is such an important part of social life.

[Jeffrey]

Well, let's see if, ironically, you dug your Own grave on Halloween bar crawl when we come back and get you your second date update. Right after this second date update. Imagine the movie Footloose. But instead of Kevin Bacon being told not to dance, it's really funny he chooses not to.

[Brooke]

That's right.

[Jeffrey]

Cuz he's embarrassed about his lack of dance moves. Oh, his feet aren't loose at all.

[Brooke]

Reverse.

[Jeffrey]

Yes, that's exactly what we're dealing with today. Reverse Footloose for our listener, Evan, who met a woman named Kalista during a Halloween bar crawl. But when Calista tried to get him out on the dance floor, he said, no, sweetheart. Yes, daddy. Don't move like that.

[Brooke]

Boring movie. He just sits in the corner the entire time.

[Jeffrey]

Saddest movie. Is that the reason that Calista's been avoiding another hangout? We're trying to get to the bottom of it today with your Halloween themed second date update.

[Brooke]

Yes.

[Jeffrey]

I was hoping someone else would jump in.

[Brooke]

And I was hoping that he would answer you.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, yeah.

[Brooke]

Where is he?

[Evan/Calista]

I'm still here.

[Jeffrey]

Was that. Was that a terrifying recap for you, Evan?

[Evan/Calista]

Yeah, it was kind of. I was like, oh, no, this is probably going to go bad.

[Brooke]

Honestly, I don't know if it even has to do with the dancing. It may just be like Halloween's meant kind of for just like flirting and hooking up. Yeah. Why are you.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah. May have nothing to do with your dancing. Might just be your personality sucks, bro.

[Brooke]

Like, you're out in costume. You're not looking for a relationship typically. So maybe that's just not where her head was at.

[Jeffrey]

You think she's a floozy?

[Brooke]

No, I don't.

[Jeffrey]

Wow, Brooke. Why would you say that?

[Evan/Calista]

What?

[Jeffrey]

What do you think? I don't really know.

[Brooke]

I just mean, like, you're out partying on Halloween. It's not meant to be more dates.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, the guy had like a fun makeout and doesn't accept that it was just a fun ye.

[Brooke]

Why does everyone else get me except Jeff?

[Jeffrey]

I don't know if Jeff's ever had just a fun make out.

[Evan/Calista]

Okay.

[Jeffrey]

No thanks. I mean, could that be the case, Evan, where you're taking this as a more serious connection than what Calista saw it as more of, Like a one night fun thing?

[Evan/Calista]

That could be the case. I guess I just misread it.

[Brooke]

I don't think that's bad. I think it's something you can fix.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, but clearly he wants more, so we're putting in the effort. We're going to at least call and try and figure out why? And bro, even if it was just a kiss, like, just know you're attractive enough for her to come and make out with you. You should feel good about that.

[Brooke]

Cuz I only made out with hot guys when I was single. I would never drunkly make out with someone not hot.

[Jeffrey]

You look like Star Lord. Okay, yeah, let's not undermine anybody's confidence. We're just going to call her and hopefully she picks up, but here we go.

[Evan/Calista]

Hello?

[Jeffrey]

Hey, we're looking to speak with Calista.

[Evan/Calista]

Yeah, who's this?

[Jeffrey]

Hey, this is a radio show. We're called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning. Hey, good morning.

[Evan/Calista]

Hi.

[Jeffrey]

This is a segment that we do. It's called A Second Date Update.

[Evan/Calista]

Okay.

[Jeffrey]

Okay. So we're trying to help out one of our listeners that you met the other night. He described a really cool hangout between the two of you at a bar crawl.

[Brooke]

He described a really drunk hangout between the two of you.

[Jeffrey]

Cool, drunk, fun. It was all the emotions. Halloween time. I'm talking about a guy named Evan.

[Brooke]

Yeah, okay, maybe she likes him to be called Star Lord instead, and that is a problem. Is that right, Kalista? Star Lord. You like that better?

[Evan/Calista]

Not necessarily Star Daddy.

[Jeffrey]

All right, well, look, if you weren't feeling it with him that much, then we understand. We get it. But we spoke with Evan and he was saying he felt like he really connected with you during the bar crawl. And now you just. You don't seem to want to meet up one on one with him.

[Evan/Calista]

I mean, we had a fun night, but it was what it was like. It didn't. I don't think it's like a long term thing.

[Brooke]

I mean, is that just because it was Halloween and you're at a bar crawl and it's just a few drinks deep? Yeah. That's not where your mind was at.

[Evan/Calista]

No, I mean, I don't know what he told you or I don't know how this works, but we had a kind of serious conversation and it was just like a real turn off for me.

[Brooke]

Oh, turn off.

[Jeffrey]

Are you saying you had a conversation? Because we heard that you talked about other people's costumes and how horrible they were.

[Brooke]

Yeah, that's the serious talk that it sounds like she's talking about.

[Jeffrey]

She could read it as a serious. This guy's really judgmental about other people and their last minute outfit ideas.

[Evan/Calista]

No, I think that was. That was the fun part.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, okay.

[Evan/Calista]

Yeah, I mean, I was trying to, like, have fun with him and get him to dance with me, and then he basically told Me, he doesn't like dancing because when he was 10, his mom put him in this, like, play where he was like a. A pumpkin, and he had to dance in front of everyone for hours. And I was just kind of like, if you're that affected by something like that when you're 10, you pretty much probably can't handle anything in life.

[Brooke]

Whoa. All of that sounds so serious. He's probably just trying to share a lighthearted story to make you laugh about.

[Jeffrey]

He can't school play one time, but.

[Evan/Calista]

He dance as an adult. Like, that's crazy. Especially when you're a little bit drunk. Like, you're still that upset about it. Like, that just was a huge red flag.

[Jeffrey]

So you see your point. You took him very, very seriously with that comment.

[Evan/Calista]

I asked him to dance, like, three times. Like, he was serious about it.

[Brooke]

Okay.

[Jeffrey]

And his reason for not dancing, that he told you, was that when he was 10 years old, his mom forced.

[Brooke]

Him to in a play.

[Jeffrey]

In a play?

[Evan/Calista]

It wasn't for a play. It was for the town festival where everybody was watching.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, sorry about that, Calista, but Evan is actually on the other line listening in on this call. That's how this segment works. Yeah.

[Evan/Calista]

Yeah. My mom would force me into this thing in front of the festival. And this wasn't just, like, one time. This is, like, from 10 years old till 15. I mean, I think at 16, I stopped refusing to do it and.

[Jeffrey]

Because. Okay, so again, it scarred you from Halloween. Just to get it clear on the details, you're saying that when you were a kid, your mom made you join a Halloween themed festival where you had to dance?

[Evan/Calista]

You're making me say it again?

[Jeffrey]

Okay, sorry.

[Evan/Calista]

My mom would force me to wear a skin tight, like, orange suit and put a pumpkin on my head to go dance in front of the town.

[Jeffrey]

On your head. I love that.

[Brooke]

God, why couldn't she have gone with something cool like just made you do Thriller or something?

[Evan/Calista]

I became Pumpkin man to everybody. I was known as Pumpkin man every year. Yeah, but, like, it was such a long time ago. Like, I just. If you're not going to have fun and dance as an adult, like a grown man, it's just, like, a lot of issues.

[Jeffrey]

Well, not everyone likes to dance. We have friends that don't like to dance.

[Brooke]

Sounds like Calista and your mom may have more in common than you realize.

[Evan/Calista]

Well, look, I.

[Jeffrey]

You're right. You gave him the ick.

[Evan/Calista]

I probably shouldn't have brought it up. I should have gotten out there, but. So, like, hypothetically, if we went to my friend's wedding, and I was like, hey, dance with me. You're never gonna dance with me because of this experience when you're 10. It was just the idea that you were just, like, trying so hard to make me dance, and it just. It was like you were my mom in that moment.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, yeah.

[Evan/Calista]

All I could think about was being the pumpkin man in my pumpkin helmet forced to dance in front of everybody.

[Jeffrey]

So, Calista, to answer your question, if your invited his mom to the wedding too, to force him to dance, then he would definitely be out on the.

[Evan/Calista]

Floor with, we're not inviting anyone's moms to wedding.

[Brooke]

I think you're thinking of it this the wrong way, though, Calista. Like, maybe just give him a chance to dance with you eventually, because the good experience will outweigh the trauma that he had, and maybe he'll learn to love it all over again.

[Evan/Calista]

I mean, honestly, I was gonna say, like, hard. No, but. But I guess I'm open to it. I just want to be with someone that is, like, fun and can dance, and I don't want to be dealing with their past traumas. Okay.

[Brooke]

I mean, good luck with that.

[Jeffrey]

That's totally fair.

[Evan/Calista]

Like, does that not exist?

[Jeffrey]

No. It's 100% okay to ask. And Evan, if you're willing to commit to dropping all of your past traumas right now, then she would be willing to give you a chance. Oh, that's all I got to do. I'm perfect now.

[Brooke]

I. We're joking. But I think that what he's trying to say is that everybody comes with baggage. Okay. And if your baggage is simply that you are a little traumatized to dance, like, that's pretty light baggage. You can say you're dating the Pumpkin King. Yeah.

[Evan/Calista]

I mean, all right. But you have to dance with me next time we're going. Dan, second date. I'm only going if you go dancing with me.

[Jeffrey]

Wow.

[Brooke]

My God.

[Jeffrey]

As long as he doesn't have to dress in an orange skin tight outfit with the pumpkin over his head, he should be able to overcome.

[Evan/Calista]

I mean, I. I'd be open to wearing still that pumpkin skin tight suit, just not the helmet that just shows.

[Jeffrey]

Off his guns at this point.

[Brooke]

I see. All right, so see, I know. I'm gonna go with don't wear that.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, but it's up to you, man. I mean, I wouldn't even carve pumpkins as a couple. I would just stay away from them. Yeah, that's our suggestion. But again, this is your decision. Evan and Calista did say she was up for giving you one more chance if you danced.

[Evan/Calista]

Yeah, let's do it. I'll get out there. I'll show what little moves.

[Jeffrey]

All right.

[Brooke]

No one expects guys to have many moves.

[Jeffrey]

Why do I feel like after, like six or seven years as, like, the pumpkin guy, he's gonna be the best dancer of all time?

[Brooke]

They let him come back every year.

[Jeffrey]

Lord of the Pumpkins is what he is.

[Evan/Calista]

Yeah, I mean, I'm. I'm proud of you. I mean, I'm. I was.

[Jeffrey]

Careful. You're sounding like his mom now.

[Evan/Calista]

I was expecting to say no, like 100%, so I think you handled it.

[Brooke]

Really well, so that's actually pretty cool.

[Jeffrey]

Dance, gentlemen.

[Evan/Calista]

All right, all right.

[Jeffrey]

We're back to Kevin Bacon again. Here we go. Brook and Jeffrey in the morning.

[Brooke]

Every now and then I rinse it out and I need jammy rinse tonight and I need it more.

[Jeffrey]

My kick wet and the smell never leave.

[Brooke]

I don't know what to do.

[Jeffrey]

I'm always in the dark the sweat.

[Brooke]

And dead sure smells like a dark.

[Jeffrey]

I'm downy ring tonight Downy rinse fights stubborn odors in just one wash when impossible odors get stuck in.

[Evan/Calista]

All I know is what I've been told and that's a half truth is a whole lie.

[Brooke]

For almost a decade, the murder of an 18 year old girl from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky went unsolved until a local homemaker, a journalist, and a handful of girls came forward with a story.

[Evan/Calista]

I'm telling you, we know Quincy killed her.

[Brooke]

We know a story that law enforcement used to convict six people and that got the citizen investigator on national tv.

[Jeffrey]

Through sheer persistence and nerve, this Kentucky housewife helped give justice to Jessica Curran.

[Brooke]

My name is Maggie Freeling. I'm a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist producer. And I wouldn't be here if the truth were that easy to find.

[Evan/Calista]

I did not know her and I.

[Jeffrey]

Did not kill her or rape or.

[Evan/Calista]

Burn or any of that other stuff.

[Jeffrey]

That y' all said.

[Brooke]

They literally made me say that I took a match and struck and threw it on her. They made me say that I poured gas on her from lava for good. This is Graves County, a show about just how far our legal system will.

[Evan/Calista]

Go in order to find someone to blame.

[Jeffrey]

America, y' all better wake the hell up. Bad things happens to good people and small towns.

[Brooke]

Listen to Graves county in the Bone Valley. Feed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to binge the entire Season ad Free. Subscribe to Lava for Good plus on Apple Podcast.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, man, I forgot to ask if she wanted to go with him to his therapy session after they got appetizers and chilies. Oh, that's where I went wrong with this. It's the perfect pairing. Little baby back ribs followed by some traumatized kids.

[Brooke]

Oh, man. I mean, gosh, if. If this was your mom, Jeffrey, she would have already sent us the video of you doing the dance in the orange spandex. We talked about how. How good your jazz hands were.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, but that's the thing. My mom continues to traumatize me well into adulthood.

[Brooke]

Something to do with the past?

[Jeffrey]

No, I'm not ready for therapy yet. It's trauma in progress. But I don't know, it's cool that they went out together that they agreed to give it a shot. Text into 78592 if you think they're actually a good match for each other.

[Brooke]

Okay.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

And share your trauma stories from your childhood.

[Jeffrey]

Is that what we want?

[Brooke]

I don't know. On the text board we all have. Okay, how about dancing videos instead?

[Jeffrey]

Bad dancing videos. Send your childhood traumas directly to Brooks Instagram.

[Brooke]

We don't want that at Brooke.

[Jeffrey]

Fox. Fox.

[Evan/Calista]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

Is that right?

[Brooke]

Yeah, we're trauma bonded.

[Jeffrey]

There we go. And remember, you can find all of your second date updates. We put them up on our podcast wherever you get them at Brooke and Jeffrey. Johnny Knoxville here. Check out Crimeless Hillbilly Heist, my new true crime podcast from Smartless Media, Campside Media and big money players. It's the true story of the almost perfect crime and the nimrods who almost pulled it off. It was kind of like the perfect storm in a sewer. That was dumb. Do not follow my example. Listen to Crimeless Hillbilly Heist on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Brooke]

I live below a cult leader and I fear I've angered her. Wait a minute. Sophia, how do you know she's a cult leader? Well, Dakota, luckily it's. I'm not afraid of a scary story week on the OK Storytime Podcast. So we'll find find out soon. This person writes, my neighbor has been blasting music every day and doing dirt rituals, and now my ceiling is collapsing. I try to report them, but things keep getting weirder. I think they might be part of a cult.

[Evan/Calista]

Hold up.

[Jeffrey]

A real life cult? And what is a dirt ritual?

[Brooke]

No clue, Dakota. Find out how it ends. Listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Jeffrey]

What's up everybody? It's snacks from the Trap Nerds. All October long, we're bringing you the Horror. Boogity boogity boogity. We kicking off this month with my best horror games to keep you terrified. Then we'll be talking about our favorite horror and Halloween movies and figuring out why black people always die first. And it's the return of Tony's horror show side Quest, written and narrated by yours truly. We'll also be doing a full episode reading with commentary, and we'll cap it off with a horror movie battle royale. Open your free aha Radio app and search Trapped Nerds Podcast and listen now.

[Brooke]

I think I showed the messiness of life like even before kids.

[Evan/Calista]

So like it was kind of a natural thing just to show every part of it. After kids too.

[Brooke]

This week on the Bright side Podcast, Chrissy Teigen gets real about motherhood, entrepreneurship, and how she turned her family's toughest moments into connection and advocacy. When Miles was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes, I knew in a way that we were going to become the face of something and we could help so many people. Listen to the Bright side on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast Podcasts what happens when Reese Witherspoon calls up the king of thrillers, Harlan Coban, and says, let's write a book together. I was asking him basically to let me into his secret thriller writing world. This week, bookmarked by Reese's Book Club, goes live from Apple SoHo in New York City for the ultimate storytelling mashup. Reese Witherspoon and Harlan Cobin on their new thriller Gone Before Goodbye by do.

[Jeffrey]

You think you're going to read for 10 minutes and next thing you know, it's 4 in the morning?

[Brooke]

Get the story behind the season's most addictive read, already a New York Times bestseller. Listen to Bookmarked by Reese's Book Club on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.