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Brooke
Hey, it's your second date update podcast and we are so happy you're here.
Jeffrey
Yes.
Alexis
Wow, you got you a dog voice.
Brooke
You're so happy. Okay, so thank you for being here. This is the official podcast, despite that weird first moment, which may indicate that you know that already.
Alexis
Yeah, yeah, it's true.
Brooke
So let's get straight to the comment section. Yeah.
Alexis
Daniella said. Hi, guys. Much love from Denmark. I just graduated with a 12 in my cap. Thank you. The top grade in Denmark.
Brooke
Whoa.
Alexis
Couldn't have done it without your podcast keeping me sane while doing all my all nighters.
Brooke
Dude, that's so cool. Yeah.
Alexis
Congrats.
Announcer
Congratulations.
Brooke
I bet school's harder in Denmark for some reason.
Alexis
It has to be, right?
Jeremy
Yeah.
Brooke
All right, here it goes. This one's for you, Daniella. Congratulations.
Kohler Ambassador
Congrats.
Brooke
It starts now.
Katrina
Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
Brooke
Second date update.
Jeffrey
Most women have their own unwritten rules they set down for a first date. Now, Alexis might not agree because these rules I found online were written by men.
Brooke
I love when men do this.
Jeffrey
I think they're still pretty good.
Brooke
I bet you think that.
Jeffrey
Number one, always be willing to pay for half.
Brooke
Yeah.
Jeffrey
Should I stop there or do you want me to keep going? I didn't even get to don't drink too much. The best date's a sober date. Oh, man.
Alexis
Why find this?
Brooke
Yeah, why would Alexis want to remember me anyway?
Jeffrey
We have a woman on the phone named Katrina who has her own unwritten rule for dates, that she brings someone along on her first one every time.
Katrina
Wow.
Jeffrey
Katrina, welcome to the show.
Jeremy
Hey.
Brooke
I think I'm more amazed that you can find someone to come with you every time. You know, like once or twice as a friend. But then I'm like, girl, I am not going on your eighth first date.
Alexis
People don't even want to go on their own dates.
Announcer
Yes.
Jeffrey
Well, if you would pay for half of the meal, then people would be more than excited to hang out with you.
Announcer
And if you have A third. You can triple it. You can split it by three.
Jeffrey
There you go. But we want to learn about you and your dating life, Katrina. So tell us, who do you like to bring along on your dates with you? Like a friend?
Katrina
Honestly, I like to ask my mom to come.
Brooke
Oh, God, I'm sorry. Oh, geez.
Jeremy
Why?
Jeffrey
You're psycho.
Announcer
No. Hey, hold on. Before you say anything, I love moms. If a girl showed up with her mom on a date, I'd be so happy.
Brooke
No, you would not. That is not true.
Announcer
Give me a hug. I'll get your approval.
Alexis
For.
Brooke
For a first date? Why would you do.
Katrina
Well, I have my mom kind of creep in the background. It's not like she's sitting with us or anything. Like, just to make sure that, like, the vibes are right and that I'm safe. And, you know, you never know someone
Jeffrey
to make sure your form is right on the kiss, too. So make sure mom weighs in.
Announcer
You mean she's just like a random person at the bar? Do you introduce her to your dates?
Katrina
No. Spot on. She's just a random person at the bar.
Announcer
Okay, that's better.
Brooke
It's better. Low profile better. That is. I mean. Okay, I'm sorry, girl. I'm glad you're here. I'm glad you listen. That feels unhealthy to me.
Kohler Ambassador
Really?
Jeffrey
Brooke doesn't want to let her children leave the house until they're 30 years old.
Brooke
I mean, I say that, but I don't really want that to happen, Jeff.
Jeffrey
Like, you know, Brooke is definitely gonna be on the first dates with both of her children.
Announcer
Let me just cut alder steak really quickly, and then you guys continue.
Brooke
So I'm guessing the mom went on this one too.
Jeffrey
We're being so judgy here. We haven't even heard the date yet. Tell us about what you guys did in this guy that you went out with.
Katrina
Well, to start at the beginning, this guy Jeremy, I met him on. I know you're gonna roll your eyes. I met him on Tinder.
Alexis
That's way better than the first thing you started this with.
Jeffrey
We're gonna try not to judge. Keep going. You met him online.
Katrina
All right, so we met on Tinder, and honestly, we hit it off pretty quick, but, like, it kind of seemed stagnant. Like it wasn't going anywhere. Like, we talked for a few weeks, but we mostly just talked about food. Like we're both just big booties.
Brooke
Yeah.
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Brooke
Okay. So, yeah, but it felt like it was kind of stalling, you say?
Katrina
Yeah, like, I sort of just had to be like, hey, are we going on a date? Or are we just going to sit here and, like, talk about food that we're not ever going to eat together?
Jeffrey
Yeah, well, some guys do need that. They need that extra push to be like, hey, ask me out already.
Katrina
Right. And after a matter of week, I'm going to say something like, I am that girl.
Announcer
It's interesting.
Brooke
You're so assertive. And then bring your mom. I love it. The first part.
Jeffrey
Yeah, I know. We do this segment to find out what things you love and what things you don't, but we. We gotta figure out what Katrina did for her date.
Alexis
I agree.
Katrina
I want to hear.
Jeffrey
Okay, so, Katrina, where. Where'd you and your mom go?
Katrina
Okay, well, he suggested sushi. Love that.
Brooke
Yeah.
Katrina
So I chose the restaurant because, like, I knew where it was. My mom and I've been there before, so that was also helpful.
Brooke
And so you're excited about this date?
Katrina
Oh, yeah.
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I'm all in.
Katrina
I'm ready to go. And so I end up carpooling there with my mom. And we get there, like, a little early, obviously, because I don't want to get busted. But I have mom post up at the bar, and he and I meet up, and everything's pretty normal at this point.
Brooke
Can I ask, like, when you're separated from your mother, are you guys, like, secretly meeting in the bathroom at any point? Are you giving each other signals throughout the day?
Katrina
Not necessarily. I mean, there was one point when, like, I got up to go to the bathroom, and, like, I definitely did just one quick check in with her.
Grainger Representative
Okay.
Alexis
I feel that's risky, though, because, like, I look so much like my mom. If someone saw me talking, you would know a million percent.
Brooke
Totally. Yeah.
Jeffrey
The date would probably leave you for your mom because she's cool.
Alexis
She's way tanner than me.
Jeffrey
I mean, it sounds like if you only checked in with your mom once, the date must have been going pretty well.
Katrina
Yeah, I mean, we were making quick work of the sushi menu. We did it all from sushi to sashimi to seaweed salad. We had a little bit of everything.
Brooke
Okay, so you're leaning in on the foodie connection you guys have?
Katrina
Yeah, definitely. So, like, it was pretty chill.
Announcer
How does a mom date end? Like, does she watch you guys? I'm being serious.
Brooke
Right. Because he can't walk her to the car because it's her mom's car.
Announcer
Yeah.
Alexis
So, like, my mom has the keys.
Announcer
She tells her mom, unlock the car right now.
Katrina
Well, we went outside and Yes. I have to get in the car with my mom, so, like, I have to finesse this. So I just kind of told him, like, hey, this was great. And I, like, gave him a quick kiss. But, like, he kind of did seem a little surprised by that.
Announcer
Oh, because you kissed him. Like, you initiated it.
Katrina
Yeah. Again, I am that girl.
Jeffrey
Yeah, you're assertive.
Announcer
That's rare.
Brooke
In front of your mom.
Announcer
Was it in front of your mom?
Katrina
Did she see? I mean, yeah, she was, like, lurking in the background.
Alexis
Lurking.
Katrina
Oh, no.
Jeffrey
The camera's out and everything.
Announcer
It's just the first kiss on camera.
Jeremy
No.
Jeffrey
Okay, we're just joking.
Brooke
And what do you mean? He seems surprised by the kiss. How so?
Katrina
I don't know. Like, I kind of just threw it out there. It was quick. He was kind of, like, looked like he was reeling a tiny bit. I don't know. We did just eat a bunch of sushi. That could be on me.
Jeffrey
Maybe it was weird for him because his dad was also there. The mom's over by the bar.
Announcer
What if the mom and dad are also.
Jeffrey
Yeah, the grandparents are in the car outside. It's just everybody's watching.
Announcer
So now it's a family tree.
Brooke
If that it happens, I will love it. So hard to be together.
Jeffrey
I really hope not, but maybe it will. When we come back, we'll call Jeremy for you and try and get your second date update right after this.
Katrina
Thank you.
Jeffrey
Hold on.
Katrina
Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
Brooke
Second date update.
Jeffrey
If you're just joining us for the second date update, we. We're on the phone with Katrina, whose first date would be an absolute nightmare for most of us in this room, but for her, it's totally normal to bring along her mom as the third wheel. Just make sure that everything's going right.
Brooke
That's right.
Jeffrey
As far as we can tell, her date Jeremy did not know that her mom was even there the whole time watching, peeping in on their first kiss. Katrina, did you hold your finger up to give mom a countdown so that she knew the kiss was about to happen? It would have been kind of romantic.
Katrina
Well, I think everyone was caught off guard by the kiss, mom included.
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Brooke
For some reason, I just imagine your mother of in the window of that sushi restaurant, just banging on it, saying, way to go, honey.
Katrina
Well, thank God that didn't happen.
Announcer
Okay.
Jeffrey
But after the date, your mom did approve of him?
Jeremy
Oh, yeah.
Katrina
Oh, yeah, Definitely.
Jeffrey
Okay.
Brooke
And we never asked either. Have you talked to him since? I know that you said the kiss took him off guard, but maybe have you heard anything?
Katrina
No, that's why I'm calling you. It just. It's been awkward. I don't know what's up.
Jeffrey
Well, hopefully we can help smooth things over. We're about to call your boy here and hopefully turn Katrina and Jeremy into the power couple. Katrami. Got a nice ring to it.
Alexis
Did.
Brooke
We need to dial her mom in on the other line, too.
Jeffrey
I'm sure she's watching through one of the windows of the studio here, so we'll be good. I'm going to dial him right now. Do it.
Jeremy
Hello?
Jeffrey
Hey, is this Jeremy?
Jeremy
Yeah, who's this?
Jeffrey
We're. We're a radio show. We're called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning.
Brooke
Hey, Jeremy, how are you doing?
Jeremy
What up? Hi.
Brooke
Hi.
Jeffrey
Hey, you're quite the talker.
Brooke
Yep. So it's gonna be a tough nut to crack, Jeff.
Jeffrey
Maybe, but hopefully we can, because we're trying to help out one of our listeners with this segment we're doing called A Second Date Update. Basically, you went out with a girl named Katrina the other night to a sushi restaurant, and we're trying to kind of pick your brain about it.
Jeremy
Yeah, that was a scam.
Brooke
What? What? Did you say scam?
Announcer
Like you scammed her?
Jeremy
No, no, I think she's got some kind of operation she's running.
Announcer
Oh, she scammed you?
Jeffrey
Wait, can you please elaborate? Because we have no idea what you're talking about.
Brooke
She did not allude to any sort of scam when we talked to her.
Jeffrey
It was a date.
Grainger Representative
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Jeremy
Well, all right. We went to a sushi restaurant. We ordered a ton of food.
Brooke
Yeah, you should.
Announcer
At a sushi restaurant.
Jeremy
Okay, so at the end, the bill came, and, you know, I have a policy. I'll pay for the first date. Usually more than that. I just think it's the right thing to do.
Grainger Representative
Yeah.
Jeremy
Although, I mean, we had a big night, we ordered a lot of food, so the guy came, and she put down her card, too. And I was thinking, all right, thank God, that one. I don't have to pay for this all. But too, that. That's nice of her to like. I said I'd get it, but then she threw down her card. So I was like, all right, that's cool of her.
Jeffrey
Yeah, that's really considerate of her. See, Alexis, it is a nice thing. Guys appreciate that and like that about women.
Alexis
Whatever.
LifeLock Representative
I mean,
Jeffrey
like, Alexis, consider it for
Brooke
next time I forget my card.
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Jeff.
Brooke
Yeah, she always says, oh, I'm so sorry.
Jeffrey
So sorry, Jeremy. Keep going.
Jeremy
Well, but hold on because the bill came and I got my card back, and I thought I had still been charged for everything. And I had a quick moment of what's happening? And then he turned to her and said, and here's your loyalty card.
Jeffrey
What?
Brooke
Oh, so she.
Announcer
It's her favorite sushi plate.
Brooke
Wait, so, like, she threw it down? So, like, if you order 10 rolls, you get the 11th free or something like that type of deal? Is that what you mean?
Jeremy
She was getting some kind of, like, reward points for all the money I just spent.
Jeffrey
Oh,
Brooke
that's not a scam. Like, why wouldn't she throw it down? Like, you're eating there. You don't have a loyalty card.
Jeffrey
It's weird that she would get all the benefits from their meal together that he paid for.
Announcer
She should have said, hey, you program here if you want, you can join if you know that I'm.
Alexis
Someone buys me Starbucks. It's so hard for me not to put my rewards barcode right there.
Brooke
I don't know that that's a scam. I bet she just didn't even think about it.
Jeffrey
Well, how much was it? How much was the bill that you paid?
Announcer
It's sushi. It's got to be 100 or so.
Jeremy
I think it was closer to, like, 200 bucks.
Jeffrey
Oh, my God.
Jeremy
I say it's a scam because I just suddenly got a flash of her taking, like, every Internet guy to this one place and, like, racking up and
Alexis
then she can take her friends for genius.
Brooke
I'm racking up the free California rolls, and nobody even knows.
Jeffrey
Alexis is loving this. You're going to you're creat little monster in our studio.
Alexis
Text all my friends right now.
Brooke
I'm sorry, that is a big accusation.
Jeffrey
It is weird that none of that came up when we talked to her.
Announcer
Well, it's so small because I'm telling
Brooke
you, she doesn't even think about it.
Jeffrey
Yeah, she just takes money from guys and gets the rewards for herself. Okay, we need to clear this up and actually have Katrina on the line. She is on the phone already, by the way, Jeremy, wanting to talk to you.
Brooke
Does it feel less scammy? Yeah.
Jeremy
What are you talking about?
Jeffrey
Yeah, that's how this segment works. We have them listening quietly and then have them jump in.
Brooke
That feels normal.
Katrina
Sir, respectfully, what are you talking about? Like, I'm running. You suggested sushi. I suggested the restaurant.
Brooke
Oh, she got you.
Announcer
Wait a minute.
Kohler Ambassador
Wait.
Jeremy
You just said you picked the place.
Katrina
You picked sushi. So what? I was going to talk to you for weeks on the off chance you would land on sushi, even though I told you, pick absolutely anything.
Announcer
He's got a good point.
Jeremy
Wait a minute. Just answer me yes or no. Have you taken other Internet dates to that same place?
Katrina
Oh, quite frankly, that is none of your business. And if you would like to know, that's where my mom and I like to go. It's our favorite restaurant, she and I, so.
Jeffrey
Yeah, because you get all the free food there. Come on, you guys.
Brooke
Jeffrey, you really think that she is going to spend hours talking to men, then hours going out on terrible dates with them? Like, it is not worth. Like, I can't imagine all of that energy being worth whatever you end up getting.
Jeffrey
I guess I do see Brooke's point. You can be running a tighter scam
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than this
Jeffrey
to get them in. Maybe you need to, like, streamline this system.
Brooke
Thank you. The reward is not worth the effort.
Jeremy
Yeah, okay.
Jeffrey
Maybe I'm to buy you some gift cards too, next time.
Jeremy
You keep saying it's not worth it, then why would you bother putting down your card?
Katrina
You offered to pay. I said thank you because that is the appropriate response. And then I put my loyalty card down. I'm not going to let 160 bucks, like $100bill go without, like, just putting points on my card. Like, you're paying for it anyway. Like, why not cash in on it?
Jeffrey
So you said you and your mom go there. Did you? The loyalty points from this date on the next time that you and your mom went and ate there?
Brooke
Why would it matter?
Jeffrey
I'm just curious.
Katrina
I always use my loyalty card when we go and eat there. And yeah, we went there like a week or so after this date that he and I had. So, like, technically probably, but I had a lot of points on that card.
Jeffrey
So you paid for several meals.
Alexis
Nice. You bought her mom dinner?
Brooke
Yes. I don't know why he's so upset about this. Still. I totally don't see an issue with this.
Katrina
Here's the thing. After hearing the way this man feels about me because I'm apparently a scam artist, let me just pull the curtain all the way back. Let's just get so real right now. The week or so after when I went there with my mom was not even the most important time that I went there with my mom. I think the most noteworthy time is the fact that my mother was there when we were on this date in the first place. She was sitting at the bar.
Jeffrey
Okay, I don't know if Jeremy knew
Announcer
that that's not a Real bomb. You think it is? I'm pretty sure.
Katrina
The thing is, she was just watching to make sure that I don't get, I don't know, murdered.
Jeffrey
And then, Jeremy, you gave off. Do you feel like you maybe gave off some murdery vibes when you matched with her on my.
Alexis
Her mom was going to save her.
Jeremy
You thought I was going to murder you in the sushi restaurant?
Jeffrey
Well, maybe not in the restaurant, but maybe in the parking lot.
Announcer
Probably after you pay the bill, obviously.
Jeffrey
Yeah, they need the loyalty points.
Brooke
I think the more important point is did you hear that her mom was there?
Jeremy
Yeah. I don't even understand. Your mom is chaperoning your dates. You're a grown woman.
Katrina
Yeah, because there's a bunch of weirdos on the Internet, so you have to be careful scamming people.
Jeremy
People. You are the weirdo.
Jeffrey
The Internet weirdo is you. Well, I just.
Brooke
This is not going well.
Jeffrey
It's so romantic. At this point, I just have to ask if you two would like to go out on another date. Moms and parents all invited and. Jeremy, we're gonna pay for it this time.
Alexis
We'll give you your own punch card.
Announcer
Yeah, there it is.
Jeffrey
What do you think, Jeremy?
Jeremy
This is like, more twisted than I even imagined.
Jeffrey
There's no scam here. We'll pay for everything.
Alexis
Ye.
Jeremy
Let her go out with her mom. I'm done.
Jeffrey
Okay.
Brooke
She does like to do that.
Jeffrey
So the royalty points are running low, though. So who's going to pay for that?
Katrina
You guys will. You already said you were going to give me a gift card.
Jeremy
Let's go.
Jeffrey
Now you're running a scam on us? Yeah, well, I don't know.
Brooke
She's really good at it though. I'm still okay with it.
Jeffrey
I know. Brook Venmo$400 right now.
Katrina
Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
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Announcer
Wow.
Jeffrey
It's been a while since we've had fireworks like that happen between two of our callers. And this time it was all because of using a loyalty card on a date.
Announcer
Wow.
Brooke
Is it really that bad?
Announcer
The whole time I recently was on a date and they asked me if I had a loyalty card, I was like, I don't know, look up my number. And it was a whole process. And they did, though. They found it.
Jeffrey
The bad part about it is that she didn't say she was using a loyalty card. Yeah, she made it seem like she was going to pay for the date, but then was like, oh, by the way, you're paying for everything and I'm taking all the points.
Announcer
She should have just been like, hey, they have a loyalty program here. I'm a part of it.
Jeffrey
If you want to be, you know,
Brooke
you can sign up, but scam artist over a loyalty card? I don't know, Jeff.
Jeffrey
We get why Brooke is so offended by this. Because she's a staunch advocate of loyalty cards. She's got 37 in her purse right now.
Brooke
If I know that I'm gonna go back there in five years, I will still keep my loyalty number.
Announcer
Is that really loyal? Brooke, if you have every single grocery
Brooke
store, if I'm going to save 10 cents, it is worth it to me. I love a good coupon.
Jeffrey
Remember, you can listen to all of our second dates wherever you get your podcast at Brooke and Jeffrey. And you can always email the show. We'll call that person who's not calling you back.
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Podcast: Brooke and Jeffrey
Episode Date: July 3, 2026
Theme: When Katrina feels ghosted after a first date at a sushi restaurant, Brooke and Jeffrey investigate why her match Jeremy no longer wants to see her—unearthing some wild confessions about dating safety, loyalty points, and the fine line between smart dating and “scam.”
This episode dives into an exceptionally awkward first date scenario: Katrina always brings her mom to hang out "incognito" nearby during first dates for safety, something her date Jeremy didn’t know. What unfolds next—an argument about loyalty/rewards points from their expensive meal—leads to a hilarious, tense, and surprisingly pointed debate about dating norms, personal safety, and who really benefits at dinner.
“Honestly, I like to ask my mom to come.”
— Katrina (05:28)
“It’s not like she’s sitting with us or anything... just to make sure that, like, the vibes are right and that I’m safe.”
— Katrina (05:49)
“I, like, gave him a quick kiss. But, like, he kind of did seem a little surprised by that.”
— Katrina (09:27)
“She was getting some kind of, like, reward points for all the money I just spent.”
— Jeremy (14:43)
“The bad part about it is that she didn’t say she was using a loyalty card. She made it seem like she was going to pay for the date, but then was like, oh, by the way, you’re paying for everything and I’m taking all the points.”
— Jeffrey (21:35)
“Did you hold your finger up to give mom a countdown so she knew the kiss was about to happen? It would have been kind of romantic.”
— Jeffrey, teasing Katrina about her mom’s surveillance (11:09)
“No, that's why I'm calling you. It's just—it's been awkward. I don't know what's up.”
— Katrina, admitting she’s in the dark (11:52)
“Sir, respectfully, what are you talking about?”
— Katrina to Jeremy, when accused of scamming (16:14)
“Jeremy, you gave off… Do you feel like you maybe gave off some murdery vibes when you matched with her online?”
— Jeffrey, joking about Katrina’s safety plan (18:44)
“You thought I was going to murder you in the sushi restaurant?”
— Jeremy, incredulous (18:53)
“You are the weirdo!”
— Jeremy, as things spiral (19:17)
“Let her go out with her mom. I'm done.”
— Jeremy, on being offered a second date (19:50)