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Jeffrey
Hey, it's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. And you know we get all the credit for all these second dates going viral for them. Charting on the top comedy podcast. Yeah, but really, it's our listeners and their terrible dating decisions that we have to think.
Brooke
Yes.
Jeffrey
And the people who ghost people. Yes. They're helping us out.
Brooke
Your toxicity has made us so funny.
Jeffrey
Yes.
Brooke
So thank you.
Jeffrey
And don't forget, we do have 45 more minutes of this. We've got a full show over on the Brooke and Jeffrey man main feed. If you like it, follow that one as well. And let's get into your second date.
Brooke
Second date update. Brooke, out of all the men that you've lured and seduced, how many of them have gotten up and walked away mid hookup?
Jeffrey
Oh, my God.
Brooke
Or did they all suffer through it to the bitter end?
Jeffrey
No, they all suffered through it. Did dump me right after midnight on New Year's Eve. Oh, that one hurt. Because I was too drunk to drive home, so I had to sleep on the couch until the next morning. Embarrassing because he lived also with his brother. It was just. It was embarrassing. But responsible.
Brooke
Yeah.
Jeffrey
Thank you.
Brooke
And I'm sure you hooked up again when you woke up. It's a little.
Jeffrey
No, we didn't.
Brooke
This is way too much information and too deep of a dive into Brooke's sad past. So I only was asking because our listener today, Lindsay, said in her email she's feeling confused after her date ended awkwardly, just as things were starting to heat up romantically.
Jeffrey
And I bet she feels better after hearing my pathetic story.
Brooke
Yeah, probably. Lindsay, welcome to the show.
Lindsay
Hi. I do feel better, but also like, oh, gosh, this is so weird and embarrassing and confusing.
Brooke
Well, don't feel bad about it.
Jeffrey
All the words people love to use in dating.
Brooke
After we hear your story, I'm sure Brooke will share some of her real life advice. Then probably even have some video evidence of guys sprinting away from her house, so that way you'll feel really good about yourself. Now, tell us about this guy that you hung out with the other day.
Lindsay
Okay. So I met this guy on a dating app. His name is Damon, and we totally hit it off on our banter. He had a great sense of humor, and I was really happy because we didn't text for, like, a crazy amount of time. It was just like, okay, why don't we meet up? And we ended up meeting at a bar. Just a simple. Like a drink at a bar. It was. It was great.
Jeffrey
Yeah, this all sounds fantastic. What was it like when you first saw him?
Lindsay
It was good. He looked like his pictures. And then it was actually kind of fun because literally, like 15 minutes after we get to this bar, the staff starts handing us whiteboards and dry erasers. And it turns out that it was trivia night.
Brooke
Oh. Oh, my God.
Jeffrey
That's whiteboard style. I haven't done that one.
Brooke
I actually had that happen to me once. Me and my buddies were at a bar, and all of a sudden, like, people kind of come in with pencils, and we're like, oh, I feel like.
Jeffrey
That'S how I've ended up at every trivia night I've ever been in. The bar is always really busy.
Lindsay
Y. Yeah, well, we decided to stay. I mean, I. In my mind, I was like, oh, this is kind of a nice little, like, icebreaker. Something fun to do. And then it turned out that the questions were very hard.
Jeffrey
Oh, they always are. Yeah, they are.
Lindsay
Where we drew the line, it was like the square root of 16. And both of us were like, we're so horrible at math, we don't even remember.
Jeffrey
It's pretty basic.
Brooke
Oh, man.
Jeffrey
I mean, not did math shame you? But at least you guys were on the same page.
Brooke
I said, yeah, just stick to relationship shaming her. So keep going.
Lindsay
We did stick. We were on the same page. Cause neither of us knew it. So instead, we just drew a square around the number.
Brooke
Oh, square.
Jeffrey
Yeah.
Brooke
Well, did they accept that as a correct answer? That's funny.
Lindsay
No. Not only did they not accept it, they took our whiteboards away because they thought we weren't taking it seriously.
Jeffrey
Dude, you got trivia shamed.
Brooke
But you guys were being silly. You were having fun with it, and you got kicked out.
Jeffrey
That is way better than ending up on a date with someone who takes trivia too seriously.
Brooke
That's fine.
Jeffrey
Yeah. So where'd you guys go after that?
Lindsay
Well, yeah, so then obviously, we had to pivot a little, and he very casually basically said, well, look, I live really close to here. If you want, you can just come to my place and maybe we can just watch a movie or something.
Jeffrey
Did he wink when he said movie?
Lindsay
Oh, no, but I hope not.
Brooke
Would that have worked on you, Brooke?
Jeffrey
No, but everybody knows what movie means. Okay? I mean, let's be honest. Don't ask Brooke more questions. Nobody's watching anything.
Brooke
That was on me. Okay?
Lindsay
So, yeah, we get to his place, we watch a movie. It was some action movie that I don't even remember the name. I don't know. I had a couple drinks, and then I was really feeling it, so I actually initiated things.
Brooke
Okay, what's your move? To go in for it?
Lindsay
Oh, gosh.
Brooke
I mean, just throw yourself out on the dog. Good old yawn and stretch. Oh, man, it's getting late.
Jeffrey
7:00Pm I think she probably just kissed him. I think that that's all women.
Brooke
Women don't really need a move. Okay.
Lindsay
Yes. I was just. We were just. Okay. We were just kissing. Okay.
Brooke
All right.
Jeffrey
Yeah. Nobody here's Judging you no matter what, you're in the right space.
Brooke
We're looking for advice is also.
Lindsay
Well, anyway, things did start heating up, and then the second that they got a little bit hotter, his mood completely changed, and things just sort of stopped.
Brooke
Interesting.
Jeffrey
Do you know why at all?
Lindsay
No idea. So much so that I asked him, like, hey, are you okay? Is everything okay? He's like, yeah, yeah, everything's fine.
Brooke
And then he started crying.
Jeffrey
That's just what you do, Jeff.
Brooke
Was that just me post hookup?
Jeffrey
Honestly, the first thing that comes to my mind is that he's cheating.
Brooke
Honestly, like you're saying, Brooke, that he felt guilty mid act?
Jeffrey
Yes.
Brooke
And had some remorse. So do you give him credit for at least stopping?
Jeffrey
No. Absolutely.
Brooke
Well, he should have gone through with it.
Jeffrey
I was thinking he wasn't ready. Like, if I don't shave my legs and then, like, something, you know, maybe he didn't, that stops you. No, but I think about it.
Brooke
Okay, Lindsay, did you get that vibe from Damon that maybe he felt guilty about another woman?
Lindsay
To be honest, I didn't even think about that. His place didn't give me the vibe that there was someone else, like, living there with him, so.
Jeffrey
Yeah, but he could still be dating himself.
Lindsay
I don't know. At that point, I could tell something shifted. I don't know. He's like, oh, it's fine. I'm thinking in my head, like, fine. What? I mean, you have a girl making out with you, and things are going so great.
Brooke
Okay, so that was. Was that the end of the night then?
Lindsay
Yeah. I basically just finished my drink and I left. And now ever since then, I haven't heard from him, and I don't. And I don't want to seem like the needy one to be texting him.
Brooke
No, let us be the needy ones that are calling him on the radio.
Lindsay
Thank you.
Brooke
We'll take all the blame for you. When we come back, we'll call Damon and try and get you a second date update and finish what you two started on the couch that night right here on the radio.
Lindsay
Thanks. I mean, it sounds kind of weird the way you say it, but. Okay.
Brooke
Okay. We promise not to listen. Hold on.
Jeffrey
What?
Brooke
Second date update? Two dummies walk into a bar on trivia night. Sounds like the setup to a joke, but it's what actually happened. And I'm not the one calling them dummies. Lindsay said herself the trivia that night was just way too hard. So hard that they decided to ditch the bar and went back to Damon's. Place instead.
Jeffrey
There's definitely some math teachers listening that are shaming you on the text board.
Brooke
The square root of 16. That is a hard one, I think. But just when things were about to get hot and heavy, Damon put the brakes on, and that's where things kind of ended awkwardly.
Jeffrey
Yeah.
Brooke
Which is the big mystery. We still don't know why he did that. It's been floated around that maybe he could be a cheater and felt really.
Jeffrey
Guilty halfway through because they're starting the kissing.
Brooke
And maybe he forgot to hit record on the camera and decided it wasn't worth going through with it. I'm just saying, it's happened to me before. But our goal today is figure this out. Why did he stop it? So that she can either get another day or at least get closure on what happened that night.
Jeffrey
Yeah. And the thing is, Lindsay, you sound really hopeful about this guy.
Lindsay
Yeah, I really, really liked him. We had a great time on it. To be honest with you, before that happened, that was probably one of the best first dates I've had. Like, truly, we got to get.
Jeffrey
We got to fix it. That's all.
Lindsay
I really kind of running it through my mind about what you said about him.
Brooke
I'm. Whatever the real reason is, is 10 times worse than whatever you're thinking. Yeah, it's always good to overthink. Definitely.
Jeffrey
It's poor girl's anxiety. I know you're joking, but it's still.
Brooke
Well, let's get an answer or put you out of your misery. Whatever it is, I'm going to dial his phone number right now, so hopefully he picks up. Here we go.
Lindsay
All right.
Damon
Hello?
Brooke
Hey, we're looking to talk with Damon.
Damon
Yeah, who is this?
Brooke
No, hey.
Jeffrey
Hey.
Brooke
We're a radio show. We're called Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
Jeffrey
Welcome to the show, man.
Damon
What y'all calling me for? Radio show. What's up with this?
Brooke
Yeah, we're. We do a segment on our show. It's called a second date update, and that's where we try to help out listeners who've gone out with someone recently. They had a really good time, but they aren't getting that second meetup. And this woman is trying to figure out why that happened.
Jeffrey
Do you have any ideas? Who are you referring to?
Damon
I don't really play games with the radio, and I'm like that. But I have no clue who you're talking about.
Jeffrey
It's not a game.
Brooke
We do have. We do have segments where we do games, and we can have you on for that later if you'd like to.
Jeffrey
Say he doesn't do it. No, I don't think he's good at trivia. Remember square root of 16?
Brooke
Yeah, we heard that trivia is in your strong thing, but this is more just about helping out our listener, Lindsay.
Damon
Okay.
Brooke
Yeah. So she called us and she told us about your guys's hangout the other night and.
Jeffrey
Sounds awesome. It sounds like it was a great night.
Brooke
You guys got kicked out of a bar together. That's like a bonding experience.
Damon
Yeah.
Jeffrey
Okay.
Damon
Yeah, I mean, we. We hung out. I mean, I don't know everything that she told you, but I mean, we.
Brooke
Heard about the bar trivia. She said that you were one of the funniest guys that she's been out with in a long time. Yeah, but afterwards she left your place having kind of more questions in her mind than answers.
Damon
Oh, really? I got questions too, right?
Jeffrey
Oh, you do? That's interesting.
Brooke
We don't normally hear that. Okay.
Jeffrey
She was really into you.
Damon
Well, we had fun playing trivia and all that, but she started kissing me. You know, we were watching a movie and she started kissing on me, like doing one of the best scenes. Bad boys.
Jeffrey
The.
Brooke
Well, the original bad boys.
Jeffrey
The Will Smith.
Damon
The original. The original bad boys.
Jeffrey
Okay.
Damon
It was the first movie. It was the first movie where there were two black lead actors and Hollywood thought it would never work. And it was one of the best.
Jeffrey
It's a great film. But you weren't watching a movie to actually watch the movie. You were watching a movie to lead to the kissing part. Right? Like, that's what you do.
Damon
Listen, it was the good part of the movie. It was a really good part of the movie.
Brooke
You're supposed to watch a movie that you've seen a million times. So you don't care about.
Jeffrey
You know, a pause button exists if you really want to. That's why you stop the makeout session.
Damon
This action packed movie. And here she is trying to get action with me.
Jeffrey
You are the first man that I think I've ever heard has been upset about something like that.
Damon
I'm just saying, like, she just had an opportunity to get to know me.
Jeffrey
But listen, why didn't you just tell her, like, she means to know that.
Brooke
Like, to me is what he's saying. Is this something that you discussed with her before putting the movie on? That this is a really important film and that you really want her to watch? No.
Damon
I mean, no, I didn't. I didn't say that. But like, during the part of the movie, in the middle of the Movie. I was like, yo, this is really good. You have to really pay attention to this part.
Jeffrey
Oh, you talked in the middle of the movie?
Damon
No, not yet. I mean, she was kissing off all up on me. You know what I mean? Like, and these are not regular kisses. These are French kisses. These are. You know what I mean?
Brooke
Okay. Some ladies just don't know that eyes need to stay on the screen during this time. French kisses, too. That's a bigger deal. Okay, I. I don't think it was malicious. I don't think that Lindsay was trying to, like, shove something in your face and say, she doesn't care about your movies. She just really like you. And you can let Lindsay tell you that because she's on the other line right now wanting to talk to you.
Jeffrey
Don't you mean the good part? Okay, just listen.
Brooke
No, yeah, I mean, she is actually on the other line right now.
Lindsay
Yeah. Hi. Hey.
Damon
I didn't know you was listening, but, I mean, you. You get my feeling, though, you know? I mean, you know what we talked about and how I kept trying to talk to you about it.
Lindsay
When you hear, I just want to make sure. So you're really, like, ghosting me? Wait, I'm just trying to figure this out. We had such a great date, and then the reason why now you've decided to leave me hanging is because I started making out with you in your favorite part of the movie.
Damon
You know what? It's not a movie. It's Bad Boys. It's Will Smith and Martin Lawrence. It's Bad Boys. And here you are trying to just make out with me and not really pay attention to the movie. Like, really.
Lindsay
I mean, listen, I. I was really into you, and I wasn't quite focused on anything else but you.
Damon
You.
Lindsay
I thought you would be, like, over the moon with that. We can watch Bad Boys anymore.
Damon
To get into me is to get into the movie.
Brooke
If you really liked him, you would take an interest in the things that he is interested in.
Jeffrey
I mean, isn't this, like, a refreshing flip? You know, honestly, doesn't this feel good to have the worst problem? A man say that he really wants to share his passion with you?
Damon
That's all I want.
Lindsay
I mean, if that's really what you wanted, you could have said so. And then we could have said, you could have to tell you right now.
Damon
Like, you know, I wasn't giving you tongue back. I was trying to watch.
Lindsay
I've never had a date like this ever before in my life. Wow.
Brooke
And I think you mean that in a good way. Because most guys aren't like Damon. He's one of a kind. He's kind of the opposite of a bad boy. He's a good one.
Jeffrey
He's a man.
Lindsay
But, like, it was that bad that that took precedent over how much fun we had before that.
Damon
Listen, we had fun, but I want to get to know you, too. But you need to get to know.
Jeffrey
Me, and you're not listening, Lindsay. It wasn't bad at all. It just was part of it.
Brooke
No matter how weird or unusual that might sound. That's from the heart.
Jeffrey
It is a great movie if you pay attention.
Damon
It is.
Brooke
Lindsay, is there any way that you could see past this miscommunication that happened? Damon, he wants to be intimate with you. Just pause the movie or wait till it's done.
Jeffrey
No, no, no.
Damon
You're not pausing the movie. You watch it all the way through.
Brooke
Okay, well, once. Once the credits roll, then the clothes can come off.
Damon
So that's it.
Brooke
Okay.
Jeffrey
Okay.
Brooke
Is that something that you could see yourself being open to? Lindsey?
Lindsay
I mean, if I haven't already offended him enough. I don't know. I just did job getting to know him.
Brooke
That's a fair point. That's fair.
Jeffrey
Sarcastic right now, of course.
Lindsay
Are you kidding me?
Brooke
Well, it sounds like that's a yes from Lindsay for another date.
Jeffrey
I don't think that's it. That was sarcastic.
Brooke
I'm just reading in between the lines of what she said at Damon. Are you willing to look past all of her flaws and give her one more chance to watch Bad Boys all the way through without interruption?
Damon
You know what? That's gonna be a no for me because she still don't even know the name of the movie. What's the name of the movie? What's the movie?
Lindsay
I've heard it now. Bad boys 1, 2 and 3.
Jeffrey
But who's it starring?
Damon
Will Smith and. Yeah.
Brooke
Damon, you're right. Let's ditch this girl. We're bad boys for life. Where are the respectful women in this society?
Damon
Bad boys, come out and play.
Brooke
Yeah, this goes out to you, Damon. The best, best movie trilogy of all time.
Jeffrey
Get her out of here.
Brooke
Will Smith and Martin Lawrence. Remember the name. Lindsay.
Lindsay
Oh, my God. I don't even know what to say.
Brooke
Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
Jeffrey
Wow.
Brooke
The Internet is right. Men really are more sensitive nowadays.
Jeffrey
I love it.
Brooke
We are.
Jeffrey
I think that it should be celebrated. Good on you all.
Brooke
I know, because evolving women just don't understand that men don't want cheap, easy hookups. Yeah, they want a lady who appreciates their Netflix action movie watch list.
Jeffrey
They want the hookups just in their timing.
Brooke
No. Yeah, no. That's all we care about is our Netflix watch list. And if a woman isn't willing to do that and take that journey with us, then hit the bricks.
Jeffrey
Oh, really? What's your movie?
Brooke
Yeah. Okay. I don't care if you've got a perfect 10 body in the face of a Disney princess. If you don't know who Martin Lawrence is, then you are not right with us.
Jeffrey
Okay, Is that for you, too? Because I feel like yours is going to be more like west side Story or something.
Brooke
Yeah, that's it. I'm snapping my way out of the room. Don't you dare. Musical shame me.
Jeffrey
Okay.
Brooke
But I will say Lindsay was right. Damon was actually really funny.
Jeffrey
He was great.
Brooke
And I hope that. I hope we talk to him again in a future secondary.
Jeffrey
I think it still could have worked out if she would have just been like, I'm sorry. Yeah, I'm so sorry.
Brooke
No, she had to double down and not appreciate bad boys for the genius that.
Jeffrey
I mean, honestly, it was not knowing Martin Lawrence's name that did her.
Brooke
I think all of us were pretty disappointed there. Then don't disappoint us any further. Make sure you go check out all of our second dates. They're up online. It's trending worldwide right now. Top 20 comedy podcasts in America. Brooke and J.E. jeffrey's second date update. Go listen, subscribe, and show some damn respect for Martin Lawrence in the comments.
Jeffrey
That's right. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
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Podcast Summary: Brooke and Jeffrey – "Second Date Update: Mid Hookup"
Episode Overview In this episode of Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update, released on January 22, 2025, hosts Brooke and Jeffrey delve into the complexities of modern dating by addressing a listener's perplexing experience of being ghosted after an initial romantic encounter. The episode combines humor, relatable anecdotes, and candid conversations to provide both entertainment and insightful advice for those navigating the unpredictable world of dating.
Listener Story: Lindsay’s Awkward Date with Damon The episode kicks off with Brooke and Jeffrey introducing their listener, Lindsay, who shares her recent dating mishap. Lindsay recounts her promising first date with a man named Damon, whom she met through a dating app. Their initial connection was strong, characterized by witty banter and shared humor.
Key Moments:
Meeting at Trivia Night ([03:24]–[05:29]): Lindsay describes the date’s unexpected twist when they find themselves participating in a challenging trivia night. Despite neither of them excelling in the quiz, they bond over their mutual lack of mathematical prowess. Lindsay humorously notes, “We just drew a square around the number” when faced with a math question, illustrating their playful but uncoordinated teamwork ([05:23]).
Transition to Movie Night ([05:55]–[07:18]): After being ousted from the trivia game, Damon invites Lindsay to his place to watch a movie, ostensibly to salvage the evening. The date appears to be progressing positively until Lindsay initiates a romantic moment that abruptly halts the evening’s momentum. She shares, “Things did start heating up, and then the second that they got a little bit hotter, his mood completely changed” ([07:12]).
Brooke and Jeffrey’s Initial Reactions Brooke empathizes with Lindsay’s confusion, suggesting that Damon’s sudden change could stem from personal issues or guilt. Jeffrey speculates, “The first thing that comes to my mind is that he's cheating” ([07:33]). They encourage Lindsay to seek closure and explore the reasons behind Damon’s unexpected withdrawal.
The Big Reveal: Confronting Damon ([10:07]–[19:38]) To provide clarity, Brooke and Jeffrey decide to call Damon live on air, aiming to uncover his perspective on the date's abrupt end. The conversation quickly takes a humorous turn as Damon defends his actions, attributing his withdrawal to Lindsay’s distraction during a pivotal movie scene.
Notable Exchanges:
Damon’s Explanation ([12:35]–[14:10]): Damon explains, “We had fun playing trivia and all that, but she started kissing me. You know, we were watching a movie and she started kissing on me, like doing one of the best scenes” ([12:39]). He emphasizes the importance of mutual interests, particularly Lindsay’s attentiveness to his favorite film, Bad Boys.
Brooke and Jeffrey’s Sarcastic Banter ([15:58]–[19:38]): The hosts approach Damon’s reasoning with a mix of sarcasm and humor. Brooke remarks, “If you really liked him, you would take an interest in the things that he is interested in” ([15:48]), while Jeffrey points out the irony in Damon’s sudden emphasis on the movie’s importance mid-date.
Final Verdict ([17:40]–[19:38]): Damon remains steadfast, stating, “You get my feeling, though, you know?” ([14:45]). However, Brooke and Jeffrey make it clear that Damon’s justification doesn’t hold up, leading to a playful dismantling of his argument. They conclude that Lindsay deserves better, reaffirming their mission to help listeners like her navigate the often confusing terrain of dating.
Conclusion: Reflections and Final Thoughts The episode wraps up with Brooke and Jeffrey highlighting the importance of mutual interests and clear communication in dating. They use Lindsay’s story to underscore how misunderstandings and differing priorities can derail potential relationships. The hosts encourage listeners to seek clarity and not settle for explanations that leave them more confused.
Notable Quotes:
Brooke: “We do have a segment called a second date update, where we try to help out listeners who've gone out with someone recently.” ([10:07])
Jeffrey: “Nobody’s here judging you no matter what, you’re in the right space.” ([06:58])
Damon: “We had fun playing trivia and all that, but she started kissing me.” ([12:39])
Lindsay: “I have never had a date like this ever before in my life.” ([16:07])
Takeaways:
Final Thoughts Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update successfully combines humor with genuine advice, making it a relatable and entertaining listen for anyone experiencing the highs and lows of dating. Through Lindsay’s story and Damon’s unexpected revelations, the episode sheds light on the importance of compatibility and honest communication in fostering meaningful relationships.