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Michael Easter
2%. That's the number of people who take the stairs when there is also an escalator available. I'm Michael Easter, and On my podcast 2%, I break down the science of mental toughness, fitness, and building resilience in our strange modern world. Put yourself through some hardships and you will come out on the other side a happier, more fulfilled, healthier person. Listen to 2%. That's 2% on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Brooke
I don't know if this is good or not, but the new episode today for your second date update is a new single mom who has only been in the dating world a month and she's already coming to us for help. I don't know again if that's a good sign or a bad sign, but it's what we're doing. And I love her.
Jeffrey
She's, like, getting ahead of problems.
Brooke
Okay. Yeah, that's an optimistic take for sure. It's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning, and before we get to it, do some comments. Yeah, Marsher said, I almost got fired at work because I got caught listening to the second date update. Thanks a lot, Brooke. With a frowny face. Your fault. I'll take it. I'll take it. I really know. All right, your brand new episode starts right now. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning second date update.
Jeffrey
We know dating in general is hard, but dating when you have kids makes it way, way easier.
Brooke
Oh, that's what it is.
Jeffrey
Especially if you can teach your 10 year old to drive you to the mov. Boom. Instant Chauffeur and designated driver.
Brooke
Yeah. Happy hour next.
Jeffrey
But Aiden, don't look in the rear view mirror. What's happening back there?
Brooke
We're both sitting in the back seat
Jeffrey
because that's how you were made, little guy. Well, one of our listeners, Savannah, is attempting to do it for the very first time. Dating while having kids. Savannah, you brave, brave soul. Welcome to the show.
Savannah
Thank you.
Jeffrey
You're welcome.
Savannah
That's an interesting perspective you have.
Jeffrey
I know this must be so easy for you right now, but tell us about your dating situation. What's going on?
Savannah
Yeah, So I have two girls, 8 and 10. And, you know, the last few years I've just really been focused on them, but I feel like they're at an age that I can leave with a babysitter and I'm ready to just really get out there and date.
Brooke
Dude, at 10 years old, I was babysitting. I think you're fine.
Jeffrey
Don't worry about that.
Brooke
Part. That's awesome. So how long have you been. Been on the scene?
Savannah
We'll say, yeah, newish. I'd say about a month.
Brooke
Okay. Okay.
Austin
All right.
Brooke
I'm so curious, like, because it's obviously been a long time. What's your take on what's available? How is it working? Well, she's calling us after one month. Yeah.
Savannah
You know, it is a little bit different of a world out there right now. It feels like there's more accessibility, but it also makes people a little flakier, maybe detached.
Brooke
Okay.
Jeffrey
We're very detachable nowadays.
Savannah
Yes, that's a good way of putting it.
Brooke
Who did you go out with? Are we gonna get to that?
Jeffrey
Let's get to the date.
Savannah
Yeah, let's get to that. Austin. His name is Austin. Okay, so I went to a rodeo event and he was one of the, like, helpers. I don't know if you call them handlers.
Jeffrey
Rodeo clowns. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. He's working the event.
Brooke
Dude, Austin is such a cowboy name too.
Jeffrey
He so is.
Savannah
I mean, I don't know if I'd call him a cowboy. Like, he. He help. But it's not like his whole Persona.
Brooke
Okay, how did you connect with him at the rodeo?
Savannah
You know, he saw me, we just started chatting and he gave him my number. It was fun and kind of casual and flirty. But I did tell him, like, straight off the bat, like, listen, I have two kids. If that's not for you, totally cool.
Brooke
Oh, that's great.
Savannah
But he seemed totally fine with it.
Brooke
So what did you guys do? Where'd you go?
Savannah
We went out for darts and drinks.
Jeffrey
Sorry, you went what?
Savannah
Darts and drinks?
Jeffrey
Darts? I thought you said some dark drinks. I'm like, oh, Guinness only. Okay. What's darts and drinks?
Brooke
I assume playing darts and drinking beers.
Savannah
I don't know.
Brooke
Is that a euphemism?
Jeffrey
I don't know. What's darts and drinks? I've never heard of.
Brooke
I feel like that's a real waste of a question, Jeff.
Jeffrey
Yeah, what is it?
Savannah
You know, a dart place. Like the game Darts in a bar.
Jeffrey
Uh huh. Okay. And what about the drinks?
Brooke
We want to know about the guy. I want to know about Austin.
Jeffrey
Oh, yeah, okay. No, sure. So let's talk all about the men. Brooke. Yeah, sure. Okay. What was this man like?
Savannah
He was great. We just had a pretty casual, like, appetizers, hangout, nice time, and I just got to be honest, like, I love my children, but it was really nice just to have some time with an adult and feel free and that sort of a thing.
Brooke
Yeah, for sure. Especially as a single mom, you never get a break.
Jeffrey
I'm going to clip that audio and play it for your children so that
Austin
they can hear themselves.
Brooke
Were you able? I mean, I find, like, even when I go out with my husband on a date, like, we end up talking about the kids so much. Were you able to not do that when you were out with Austin?
Jeffrey
That's tricky. Turn it off.
Savannah
It did come up a little bit, but I actually asked him in the beginning, like, please help me not do this, because I. I'm trying to get out of mom all the time.
Brooke
Yeah.
Savannah
So I think we did a pretty good job.
Brooke
Was there any strange moments between you and him?
Savannah
I mean, not that I can recall. I mean, we really got along. He asked me if I wanted to go back to his place and hang out some more, so I. Yep.
Brooke
You texted the babysitter and said mama's gonna be home late?
Savannah
Yep. The babysitter got a little extra dough.
Jeffrey
Oh, okay.
Savannah
Yeah.
Jeffrey
So you ended up back at his place.
Savannah
I gotta say, for a single guy, his place was surprisingly nice. So that was great.
Jeffrey
Ooh la la.
Brooke
It's always a good sign. Cause you don't wanna be a mother to a third child.
Savannah
No, exactly. I have enough people to clean up after.
Brooke
Yeah.
Jeffrey
All right. So without going to too much detail, how did it go back at his place?
Savannah
It was good. I mean, he made us some drinks. Like, while he was doing that, I was looking through his bookcase and saw his high school yearbook, But I thought he was so cute. He hasn't changed that much. Yeah, so, I mean, he seemed, like, a little bashful when he saw that I had taken it out, but I don't think it was a big deal.
Brooke
I'm sorry. If you're gonna put your high school yearbook on your bookshelf, every person that's walking into your apartment is gonna pick that thing up.
Jeffrey
And we would all be embarrassed by our yearbook.
Brooke
I mean, come on.
Jeffrey
Everybody is. Totally. So this all sounds very good. How did you two end it?
Savannah
We kissed a little bit. He said, you know, he'd like to do it again, and I don't know. It's been five days, and he's not making a move to ask me out again.
Brooke
Here we are. Push it along.
Jeffrey
We're only going to make you wait a few minutes longer before we finally reach out to this guy. We'll call Austin, and hopefully he picks up and has some answers to why he does not Want to be the father to your two children.
Savannah
Wow, thanks.
Jeffrey
Well, okay, maybe that's. Maybe that's a little extreme.
Brooke
You should say why he doesn't want to have another baby with you.
Jeffrey
Okay.
Michael Easter
Yeah.
Jeffrey
We'll start with why aren't you calling her friend back? We'll ease into the conversation when we do your second date update right after this. Hold on.
Brooke
Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Second date update.
Jeffrey
30 days in and our listener Savannah is already calling radio shows to assist with her re entry back into the dating world world.
Brooke
Hey, yeah. Maybe we were one of the reasons she was ready to start dating again. Just listening to this show. How much hope we give people.
Jeffrey
Totally very optimistic take when you hear all of our second date updates. Yeah, but a little you should know about Savannah. She has two daughters aged 8 and 10. But there is a guy that she's interested in, a guy named Austin.
Brooke
Hey.
Jeffrey
And he took her for darts and drinks, then back to his place, but that was days ago and there really hasn't been a lot of communication since. So she's looking to us to get a little bit of help. Right, Brooke?
Brooke
Yeah, for sure. I'm excited for you, Savannah.
Savannah
Thank you.
Brooke
Yeah. And if this doesn't work out, you're fresh in this. There's plenty more fish in the sea. Right?
Savannah
Totally. I do understand that. Yeah.
Jeffrey
We're not ready to move on from this guy just yet. We don't need the plenty of the fish talk until we actually talk to Austin.
Brooke
Mentioned the dating apps yet? I mean, there's a whole pool of men on there you can still go find.
Savannah
Yeah, I have been dabbling there, but yeah, it was refreshing meeting someone in person. And I'd like to, you know, can you just see where that goes?
Brooke
Yeah.
Jeffrey
Okay, well, let's call Austin, try to get him on the phone, and hopefully he hasn't suffered some horrific rodeo injury that prevented him from dating ever again. I see by a bull.
Brooke
He was the clown that jumps out of the barrel.
Jeffrey
It does happen. Are you ready for that, Savannah?
Savannah
Ready.
Jeffrey
Okay, we'll see. Let's call his number. Here we go.
Austin
Hello?
Jeffrey
Hey, is this Austin?
Austin
Yes. Who is this?
Jeffrey
Oh, you don't have to be scared of us. We're just a radio show. We're called Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
Austin
Okay.
Savannah
Okay.
Jeffrey
What's up? Good morning.
Austin
What. What's going on, guys?
Brooke
Hey, look at that. Small talk.
Jeffrey
Yeah, let's just dive right into this, Austin. Because reason why we're calling is this is a segment we do. It's called A second date update.
Austin
Okay.
Jeffrey
Okay. And that's where we try to help out listeners who've gone out with someone recently, but they're not getting a call back for a second meetup. We're trying to figure out if there's a reason for it, particularly with you and a woman named Savannah.
Austin
What? Savannah?
Brooke
Yeah. Yep.
Jeffrey
Yeah. Yeah. You remember Savannah, right?
Austin
Yes, I do remember Savannah. Okay, I'm just. I'm confused.
Jeffrey
Well, she says you went out on a date recently, a date that really stuck out in her mind as a good one. Now, granted, she hasn't had a ton of new dates because she's kind of reentered the dating world.
Brooke
Why would we set them up?
Jeffrey
Well, just to show that you were great for her re entry.
Brooke
That was so clinical.
Austin
Well, she did tell me that she was just starting a date, but, I mean, this is. There's just a lot going on here.
Jeffrey
Yeah.
Serving Pancakes Podcast Host
Yeah. Okay.
Brooke
Yeah.
Jeffrey
But we want to hear what you thought about Savannah and your time together. That's kind of our goal.
Austin
Okay. Well, look, she seemed really nice. I mean, very cool, great personality. But the toughest thing about it is that she Basically, when she came over, she found my high school yearbook.
Brooke
Oh, yeah. She told us that you had that out on your bookshelf. I mean, come on, man. If you're gonna put it out there, people are gonna look at it, right?
Austin
Yeah. I mean, I'm totally fine with that.
Brooke
Okay.
Jeffrey
Okay, cool. You brought it up like it was an issue, though.
Austin
Yeah, well, the problem is not so much the seeing of the yearbook, so much as her fixation on this quote from the yearbook.
Jeffrey
Oh.
Brooke
Like when you're, like, a senior and you put the quote underneath your name or something like that.
Jeffrey
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Austin
And so they put predictions, and mine said, By 29, I'm gonna be married and have two kids.
Brooke
Whoa. They put that in your yearbook?
Austin
Yeah. I mean, I said that a long time ago when I was in high school, but.
Brooke
Right when you're at the age that you think 29 is really 64.
Austin
Yeah.
Brooke
You think 30 is, like, a grand.
Jeffrey
You think you're married to the kids by whatever age, Right?
Brooke
Yeah. So why did she fixate on it? What do you mean by that?
Austin
Well, so she reads it and she says, this is funny. You're 29 now, and I have two kids.
Jeffrey
Oh.
Austin
Oh, my gosh.
Jeffrey
Wait a minute. Hold on.
Austin
Exactly. That's how I felt.
Brooke
Okay, wait, wait. What did you feel? I'm confused. Like, funny or stressed? I can't tell.
Austin
No, stress. Stress.
Brooke
Oh, stress.
Austin
Okay, yeah.
Brooke
You're assuming she's saying that you two are going to get married.
Austin
I mean, it's either that or it just feels like I'm going to be an instant dad either way.
Jeffrey
Oh, okay.
Brooke
You don't think she was joking?
Jeffrey
And is being an instant dad really the worst thing?
Brooke
I mean, you don't have to get up in the middle of the night if you have an 8 and 10 year old. That is, like, really a bonus. I'm just going to say, yeah, jump
Jeffrey
into the easier part of parenthood.
Brooke
You can throw things at them and they'll catch it. Like balls and stuff, you know?
Jeffrey
Are we selling you?
Austin
I hear what you're saying. In my dream. I mean, thank goodness I need to write this in my yearbook. I mean, I want two boys.
Jeffrey
She has girls.
Austin
Two girls.
Brooke
But that doesn't mean you can't predict that. I mean, unless you are coming into a relationship that already has kids.
Jeffrey
Yeah, that'd be funny if that's the only, like. Sorry. I mean, who says you can't have more kids with her and make your dream come true?
Brooke
Why are we talking about this right now? Yeah, I don't know if she would want him to be an ass.
Jeffrey
We're talking about his dreams.
Austin
Wait, I thought we were talking about dates now. I'm trying to convince her to have two more kids.
Jeffrey
Yeah, well, okay, fair. Maybe this is a lot. What we really should be doing probably, is telling you that Savannah is already on the phone with us right now, listening in on this conversation.
Austin
What? Hey.
Jeffrey
Yeah. And she wants to talk to you about this, presumably. Savannah.
Savannah
Hey, Austin.
Austin
Oh, hey, Savannah.
Savannah
Well, first of all, I'm sorry I freaked you out. I just thought it was funny. I was kidding. I'm not imagining that. You know, I want you to meet my kids next week and move in the week after. I'm not trying to entrap you or something.
Austin
I feel so bad for not calling you back. I just. I wish I should have said any of this to you. And now here we are, and, you know, we have an audience, which is cool.
Brooke
Cool.
Austin
Yeah.
Savannah
And I just want to say, because you're not a parent, you don't know how awesome it was just to have a peaceful, fun night out with you. I haven't had that in forever. And that's what I want. That's where I want to start. And you know, I'm on the apps. There are plenty of people I could go out with. But we met in person. I already know that you and I have had fun and have some chemistry. And I'd rather hang out with you again.
Austin
Right. But you have girls, right?
Brooke
Okay.
Savannah
Oh, my God. Really? I mean, yes, Austin, I have girls. But again, this is a very long down the line conversation. If you would ever even meet them. And just like, even just saying we're not that old. If down the line it became a thing. I mean, the best part of having lots of kids is making them so have a ton more children. Maybe eventually.
Jeffrey
Wow.
Brooke
And I'm pretty sure it's science that the more you want one gender, the more likely it is you have the opposite.
Austin
I need to see the study that says that. Man, I. I get. Yeah. I mean, I'd love to go back out because you. I had such a good time too, but I just.
Brooke
I don't know that she asked you
Jeffrey
yes to a date or yes to being a father. I'll take it from here, Austin. So what we are trying to in this whole segment is try to set you up with one more date with Savannah.
Brooke
Just Savannah. Not the children.
Jeffrey
You don't have to worry about fatherhood down the road or future boys that you want to have. Just think about one more date, just you and Savannah. And if you're open to it, we would pay for that. Hopefully this entire conversation has given you less stress about the idea of dating and fathering future kids.
Austin
Only a little bit more stress. No, it's cool. I do want to go back out with Savannah. Yes.
Brooke
Okay.
Jeffrey
That's all you're committing.
Brooke
Okay, cool.
Savannah
That's great. And listen, my oldest did say that you look like a less creepy version of her school principal, which in tween translation means she thinks you seem cool and cute.
Jeffrey
Oh, okay. Her daughter approves of you, Austin. How does that feel?
Austin
Approval is good. I will take it. And like you said, we'll just kind of. I'm going to stay out of my head and we'll try to take it slow.
Brooke
I wouldn't play this recording for your daughter. I mean, the whole thing about him wanting only boys is not going to sit well with the 10 year old.
Savannah
Very fair.
Jeffrey
Yeah. So, Savannah, that means congratulations. You got yourself one more date with Austin. Yay.
Savannah
Cool. Thank you so much for the help. I appreciate it.
Brooke
Yeah, that's awesome.
Austin
We're here for.
Savannah
Yeah.
Brooke
Jose will babysit for you.
Jeffrey
Oh, my God, Love that. Oh, my God, love that.
Savannah
Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
Michael Easter
2%. That is the number of people who take the stairs when there is also an escalator available. I'm Michael Easter, and on my podcast 2% I break down the signs of mental toughness, fitness and building resilience in our strange modern world. I'll be speaking with writers, researchers and other health and fitness experts and more to look past the impractical and way too complex pseudoscience that dominates the wellness industry.
Brooke
We really believed that seed oils were inherently inflammatory. We got it wrong. Many of the problems that we are freaked out about in the world are
Jeffrey
the result of stress.
Michael Easter
Put yourself through some hardships and you will come out on the other side a happier, more fulfilled, healthier person. Listen to 2%. That's 2% on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Serving Pancakes Podcast Host
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Savannah
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Jeffrey
Got a text into 78592 that says, I ended up reading my husband's high school yearbook after we were married. Turns out he was voted most likely to end up in prison.
Brooke
So you either saved them or you're making conjugal visits right now.
Jeffrey
Three years later, they were right.
Brooke
Oh, wait. Okay. I went with option B. Oh, man.
Jeffrey
Senior superlatives. It's interesting how accurate they really can be.
Serving Pancakes Podcast Host
So funny.
Jeffrey
But hopefully we'll get an update from the two of them soon and see if any of his high school predictions or dreams eventually came true.
Brooke
Dude, I think they're actually pretty cute. Cute together they might be.
Austin
Yeah.
Brooke
She was so cute, dude. And he overanalyzed more than a typical woman. Yes.
Jeffrey
Did any of our high school predictions come true? Does anybody remember I was supposed to
Brooke
be a pro athlete? Some. They said for me. Oh yeah, hey, but you're coaching high school tracks.
Jeffrey
I know. In high school, I predicted that millions of people would subscribe to our podcast at Brooke and Jeffrey. That's very specific. You knew it was going to be on this show. Your podcasts weren't even invented yet, so it's crazy. But make this little boy's high school dreams come true. Follow us online wherever you get yours at Brooke and Jeffrey.
Michael Easter
2% that's the number of people who take the stairs when there is also an escalator available. I'm Michael Easter and On my podcast 2%, I break down the science of mental toughness, fitness and building resilience in our strange modern world. Put yourself through some hardship and you will come out on the other side a happier, more fulfilled, healthier person. Listen to 2%. That's 2% on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Date: April 8, 2026
Episode Theme:
This episode features a "Second Date Update" focusing on Savannah, a single mom recently re-entering the dating world, who seeks Brooke and Jeffrey’s help after being ghosted by Austin following a promising first date. The conversation explores the realities of dating as a parent, miscommunication, and the anxieties that come with blending families, all delivered with the show’s signature playful banter.
Savannah’s Dating Dilemma:
Savannah, a mother of two (ages 8 & 10), reaches out after not hearing from Austin, a man she recently met at a rodeo event. She’s new to dating post-kids and looking for answer for his radio silence.
The “Second Date Update” Process:
Brooke, Jeffrey, and the team talk through Savannah’s date, what went right, what may have gone wrong, and then call Austin to get his side—all in real time for Savannah to hear.
"It feels like there's more accessibility, but it also makes people a little flakier, maybe detached." – Savannah (02:52)
“I love my children, but it was really nice just to have some time with an adult and feel free.” – Savannah (04:41)
When called by the show, Austin reveals he was put off by Savannah’s reaction to his yearbook prediction:
“They put predictions, and mine said, by 29 I’m gonna be married and have two kids.” – Austin (11:31)
Savannah linked his old quote to their current life situation jokingly (“You’re 29 now, and I have two kids”), which Austin misinterpreted as pressure to become an “instant dad.”
Austin quietly panicked:
“It just feels like I’m going to be an instant dad either way.” – Austin (12:27)
The hosts riff on the upside: “You don’t have to get up in the middle of the night if you have an 8 and 10 year old. That is, like, really a bonus.” – Brooke (12:38)
Savannah jumps in live to clarify her comments:
“I'm not imagining that… I want you to meet my kids next week and move in the week after. I'm not trying to entrap you or something.” – Savannah (13:53)
She shares her motivation:
“It was just awesome… to have a peaceful, fun night out with you. I haven’t had that in forever… That’s where I want to start.” – Savannah (14:25)
The conversation pivots to whether Austin’s yearbook prediction (wanting “two boys”) fits the reality of Savannah’s “two girls.” Laughter ensues as they joke about making more children in the future, noting how unpredictable life can be.
Savannah reassures that meeting her kids would be far down the line, keeping things light and future-focused.
"The best part of having lots of kids is making them, so… have a ton more children, maybe eventually." – Savannah (15:20)
Agreement for a Second Date:
Both agree to see each other again without added pressure, as Austin admits:
“I do want to go back out with Savannah. Yes.” – Austin (16:18)
Savannah’s Daughter’s Approval:
“My oldest did say you look like a less creepy version of her school principal, which in tween translation means she thinks you seem cool and cute.” – Savannah (16:28)
Outlook:
“Approval is good. I will take it… and, like you said, we’ll just kind of… I’m going to stay out of my head and try to take it slow.” – Austin (16:45)
“And we would all be embarrassed by our yearbook.” – Jeffrey (06:38)
“You don’t wanna be a mother to a third child.” – Brooke (05:56)
Light-hearted, witty, and supportive, the hosts deftly blend candid, real-world relationship challenges with humor and empathy while ensuring guests feel heard and respected.
This “Second Date Update” successfully navigates a classic case of misunderstanding and dating anxiety, especially for those re-entering the scene as parents. Listeners are left rooting for Savannah and Austin, reminded that communication (and not reading too much into yearbook quotes) is key when blending lives and families.
Takeaway:
Sometimes, it takes a playful radio intervention to clear up a minor misunderstanding—and maybe, just maybe, find the start of something new.