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Brooke
Hey, you're here. You found the Second Date podcast, and we love that. Thank you so much. So happy you're here. You know what? If you want us to invade more of your Life, we're on YouTube. Yeah, we are that. With Brooke and Jeffrey texting your address, I can. I can show up Jose. Jose will come to your house and
Jeffrey
give you hugs or you give me food.
Brooke
And also, there's 45 more minutes of this dumb content that apparently you like, which we're really grateful for. You can go over to the main feed for the full show, Brooke and Jeffrey. But right now, let's get into this relationship stuff.
Ashley
Yeah.
Brooke
Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning, Second date update.
Jeffrey
I know in the past we've talked about how going to a movie for a first date isn't necessarily the best idea.
Ashley
Yeah, I mean, it sounds good, but
Brooke
following through, it's universally agreed upon because
Jeffrey
you could end up spending a couple hours next to this person and still know nothing about them.
Brooke
Yeah, the movie's too good. Unless they're like Jose and talk to the entire thing.
Sienna
Yeah.
Jeffrey
Personally, that's kind of how I like to date.
Brooke
Oh. Just not knowing the person ever.
Jeffrey
You don't need to know about me.
Brooke
I see.
Jeffrey
I don't need to know about you as long as you have a big enough popcorn bucket.
Brooke
What?
Jeffrey
Read into that how you will size.
Ashley
That matters.
Jeffrey
Maybe I'm an outlier.
Brooke
You are.
Jeffrey
Okay. But our listener, Sienna, said she had her first date at the docking pictures and thought it went swell.
Ashley
Silver screen.
Jeffrey
Yeah, maybe there was a little necking going on in the back row. Sienna, what gives?
Sienna
I mean, necking is a really gross term.
Jeffrey
Yeah,
Brooke
it ends up with a hickey for sure.
Jeffrey
Starts with that big popcorn bucket, but let's get into it. Sienna, tell us about this guy you met and the whole experience. Yeah, I'm bringing it down. I'm bringing it down now.
Sienna
So I met Evan on a, you know, dating website, and I swiped because both of us really into, like, sci fi fantasy book clubs.
Brooke
Oh, that's very specific.
Evan
Yeah.
Sienna
Yeah. So, I mean, usually when I see that, they're usually a good egg.
Brooke
So what makes them.
Jeffrey
They're a good egg.
Evan
See?
Brooke
Y. No, what makes them a good egg? If they like sci fi fantasy, does
Jeffrey
it float in water or does it sink? Because that's how you know it's a bad egg.
Brooke
I like. I'm just curious what it says about a person.
Sienna
Yeah, well, I mean, like, sci fi fantasy has, like, a lot of, like, political commentary and a lot of sci Fi and fantasy. There's a lot more to it than just dragons and, like, futuristic stuff. Like, they tackle big moral and ethical issues and stuff like that.
Jeffrey
Yeah. Subtle political commentary. Hot.
Evan
Got it.
Brooke
Intelligence, Right? Like, deeper thinking. Okay.
Jeffrey
He can read.
Sienna
Yeah, yeah. I mean, like. I mean, if you just look at, like, how popular Project Hail Mary was,
Jeffrey
the more you talk, Sienna, the more I'm realizing you called into the wrong show
Evan
or something.
Brooke
One thing I can guarantee is when we call this guy, he's not going to know who we are.
Jeffrey
Yeah, he'll pick up.
Ashley
Hopefully.
Jeffrey
So, aside from what made him such a great egg, let's move on to the date. Tell us about that. You went to the movies?
Sienna
Well, yeah, we did, because we were talking about how hard it is to, like, adapt a movie from a book, and there's not really anything out right now that adapts. But we both like horror, so we decided to go, like, cool horror movie together.
Jeffrey
Okay.
Brooke
I mean, I think if you're gonna pick any movie for a date, horror is probably your best bet because at least you can trauma bond. Yeah.
Jeffrey
You can cry into each other's arms.
Brooke
It's like a fun movie to watch with people.
Jeffrey
Yeah. Why did you think horror would be a good choice?
Sienna
I don't know. Because there's, like. If it's really scary, then you can talk about how good it was and, like, how did they make it scary? Did they make it through, like, jump scares? Or did they make it, like, just really chilling and, like, creepy mind games? Or is it really. Yeah. Or is it really camp and you can, like, just make fun of it?
Brooke
Yeah.
Evan
Really?
Ashley
Camp?
Brooke
Yeah, like, campy? Yeah.
Ashley
I've never heard that term. I'm learning.
Sienna
Really? Oh, my God.
Ashley
I don't.
Brooke
Camp.
Ashley
That's also a big thing.
Brooke
It's kind of like, over the top, cheesy.
Ashley
Okay, thank you, everybody. Sorry for stopping us all day.
Jeffrey
Somebody get Jose his Color By Numbers book. He's getting overwhelmed.
Brooke
Camping for me.
Ashley
I'm right.
Jeffrey
Let's get back to the date. How was it?
Sienna
The movie was, like, great. It was really scary. I was totally creeped out afterwards. We talked about it.
Brooke
I'm like, so wait, can I ask? Where did you guys talk about it? Did you go to do something else?
Sienna
Yeah. So what we did was, like, we talked about it in the car for a little bit, and then, like, I was a little creeped out, so I was like, let's go grab ice cream or something. And we started talking about books again.
Brooke
Right. Something more wholesome.
Sienna
Yeah, exactly. And Then, like, took me home, walked me to my door. He seemed like he wanted to lean in, so I just kind of said, you know, it's okay if you want to kiss me.
Brooke
Oh, that's cute.
Jeffrey
That's actually really cute.
Brooke
That's really cute. And did he?
Sienna
He did.
Ashley
Hey, that's a great way to end the date.
Brooke
I can't believe you're a woman who watched horror movies and you let a guy you met online pick you up at your house. I was going to say, yeah, I'd be kind of scared to be with him alone after the movie.
Sienna
Yeah, well, I always tell my friends where I'm at. 1 and 2. Like, I did some digging, you know, about him and, like, good. And stuff. And, like, jobs. All that stuff that, like, makes you feel a little bit more comfortable about who you're going out with.
Jeffrey
You went to his LinkedIn page?
Brooke
Yeah.
Jeffrey
His jobs.
Sienna
It does help, you know that, like, if they're active on their LinkedIn, they're at least, like, I don't know, they're not, like, hiding. They're not creeping in their parents basin if they have an active LinkedIn.
Brooke
But, I mean, I hope. Ashley, back to the sweet kids. I want to go back to the sweet kids.
Ashley
I know.
Jeffrey
All right, so what's happened since. Since the post? Ice cream makeup?
Ashley
Yeah.
Sienna
Well, I didn't get, like, any kind of text over the next, like, couple days.
Jeffrey
Son of a. Sorry. That really bothers me when guys do.
Sienna
So I texted him and I was just like, hey, I had a really great time, you know, and I'd love to hang out again. And did respond, but it was just like, yeah, it was great. And he didn't, like, respond to this want to hang out again part or anything like that. And I feel like something went wrong, but I just don't know what it was.
Jeffrey
I mean, Alexis, this has happened to you countless times. What has it been in the past for you?
Brooke
What's my problems?
Jeffrey
Yeah.
Ashley
She's like, we don't got time for this.
Brooke
Yeah, we don't have time.
Sienna
I don't know.
Brooke
I don't feel like you did anything wrong.
Jeffrey
I feel like there's the kiss of death. Alexa thinks it's great. You must have messed up horribly. Let's find out what really happened when we come back. Call Evan and do your second date update right after this.
Brooke
Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Second date update.
Jeffrey
If you're just joining us, we've been talking to our listener Sienna about her intoxicating first date with a guy named Devon.
Evan
Really?
Jeffrey
Cuz they went and saw a scary movie, then shared a waffle cone. And after that she said something along the lines of, hey, Daddy O, if you want to go lip to lip like two plungers, I wouldn't fight you off.
Brooke
Actually, the quote, I think exactly what she said.
Jeffrey
Pretty close. And that led to a makeout so passionate, so intense, that Evan will barely respond to her text anymore.
Ashley
Oh, damn.
Brooke
I thought it was just a single kiss. I feel like you added a lot of juicy details.
Jeffrey
I'm picturing it a lot more differently in my brain.
Brooke
I don't know that Sienna wants you to picture anything, Jeff.
Jeffrey
Sienna. What was I off on my description?
Sienna
You might have embellished a tiny bit.
Brooke
Oh, just a tiny.
Ashley
Yeah.
Jeffrey
That's just because there was so much love and passion happening.
Brooke
Plungers.
Jeffrey
Yeah.
Brooke
Yeah.
Jeffrey
Hot plunger action in my mind. But I mean, usually when things go wrong during a date, we don't hear about kisses like the one that you just described.
Brooke
I mean, but does a man ever turn down a kiss? Yeah, I was going to say, I feel like every date gets a kiss than it is on our show. You know, like if the girl proposes it. Is a guy, even if he's having a terrible time, going to say no?
Jeffrey
Maybe. It's a good question. Sienna, do you feel like it was possibly a pity kiss?
Sienna
I don't know. I hope not.
Brooke
Yeah, that's going to be sad.
Sienna
Yeah.
Brooke
I didn't mean to set you up with that in your mind. Let's just get to it.
Jeffrey
Now, I have a good question to ask him, but I'm going to dial his number right now and let's see if he picks up. Here we go.
Evan
Hello?
Jeffrey
Hey, is this Evan?
Evan
Yeah.
Jeffrey
Hey, man, I know this is weird, but we're a radio show. We're called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning.
Ashley
What's up, man? Good morning, Evan.
Brooke
We kind of had guessed that maybe you weren't a listener.
Jeffrey
Yeah, you probably don't.
Evan
I'm. I'm not a listener. Is this real?
Jeffrey
Yeah. I ask myself that question every day when I come into work.
Brooke
Am I actually doing this again?
Jeffrey
Yeah, but this is real. It's a segment we do. It's called the Second Date Update.
Evan
What does Second Date Update mean?
Jeffrey
It's basically a segment where listeners can come to us if they're having trouble getting a hold of a person after they go out with them. Once we can reach out and see if there's a reason why.
Evan
Why would. Why would anyone do that?
Brooke
Great question.
Jeffrey
Yeah, we don't know.
Brooke
I mean, they don't have any answers. I do feel like, you know, Evan, like, dating is frustrating right now, so.
Jeffrey
Yeah, and it's so frustrating that a woman named Sienna reached out for our help.
Brooke
She's really excited about you.
Evan
Okay, so what's like. I mean, what's the question?
Jeffrey
All right, well, Sienna actually told us about the date you two had. That's what people do when they're on this show. We hear about the date and we try to figure out if there's a reason why afterwards you're not calling her.
Brooke
Yeah. So we know, like, you went to a horror movie and that you like sci fi fantasy novels and you got ice cream.
Evan
Wow. She really kind of laid most of it out for you, but, like, look,
Brooke
those weren't real personal details.
Ashley
Yeah, that's a recap of your day.
Evan
Yeah, but, like, Sienna is beautiful and she's smart.
Brooke
Good way to start.
Evan
And I mean, she's just. She seems to be a really great person.
Jeffrey
Yeah, I wouldn't call her back either.
Evan
Hang on.
Brooke
She's beautiful, compassionate. What?
Jeffrey
Hang on to what?
Evan
She showed up to the movie theater with a stuffed animal.
Brooke
Oh.
Evan
And I'm not. I'm not talking about, like a little key ring sized stuffed animal. We're talking like the size of a toddler.
Brooke
What?
Ashley
Oh, like a fair animal.
Brooke
Was it one of those, like, yellow ones that are actually, like, more comfortable than your actual pillow? You gotta cover your eyes during scary movies with something.
Ashley
Hey, true.
Sienna
Yeah.
Evan
Yeah. But I mean, first off, we are adults and she's a grown woman that has stuffed animals, which is a little red flag for me.
Brooke
Hey, hey, hey. My panda would not be happy to hear this. I've got a glow worm and a pound puppy.
Evan
Yeah.
Brooke
Also argue you really stepped in.
Evan
I'm just telling you that isn't. That's. That's a red flag.
Brooke
Why is it a red flag? What does it say about a person if they have a stuffed animal?
Evan
If you were a grown adult, you got to get rid of kids stuff.
Sienna
What?
Evan
Like, if it's something you had since you were a kid, that's great. If it's something new, that's an issue. Okay.
Brooke
But play and make believe in your sci fi world is okay.
Jeffrey
Okay.
Sienna
I'm just saying.
Evan
I'm just watching movies and reading books. I'm not larping.
Brooke
So right at the very beginning of the date, you're like, red flag. And had you already written her off?
Evan
I didn't write her off at the start because I didn't know if she was bringing it to give it away to a kid, if there was a charity drive drop off or something. We were going to, but she didn't explain it to me. There was no introduction or anything.
Brooke
Oh, you went into the night okay?
Evan
Yeah, I wanted to try to salvage the night. And we went and we had ice cream.
Brooke
Did the stuffy come to ice cream too, or did she drop it off at the car?
Evan
She brought it into ice cream. And then at the very end of the night, she asked me if I wanted to kiss. And we had a sweet little kiss.
Brooke
I told you guys never say no. I mean, this guy's like, red flags all the way. Totally turned off, and he's still kissing her.
Sienna
Okay.
Evan
I was like, you know, I'm gonna give this one more shot. But then she's like, I think you should kiss Pebbles because he'll be jealous.
Ashley
He. He will be jealous.
Brooke
Was she joking? That had to have been a joke.
Evan
No, no, I. I get she was serious as and she. I kissed Pebbles on the nose and I got out of there as fast as I could. Wow.
Brooke
I will say. I mean, my stuffed animals don't ask for kisses from other people, just from me.
Jeffrey
So now you kissed Pebbles and you have feelings for both of them and you don't know which one you're into? Is that what you're fighting yourself?
Evan
I don't know who I want to date at this point.
Jeffrey
I mean, heart torn. I get it.
Brooke
I mean, I feel like that could have been an easy text. Like, hey, so Pebbles was a little much for me. I don't think any about that text is easy, Brooke.
Jeffrey
Well, you don't have to have it over text anymore because actually Sienna is on the phone right now listening to this conversation and waiting to talk to you.
Sienna
Yeah, I mean, I just think that he's overreacting.
Brooke
Okay.
Sienna
Like, it's a horror movie. I brought my stuffed animal. Obviously he's still with me when I go to ice cream. Yeah, I just don't see it as like a huge red flag at that point. At the beginning of the movie, before we went talk and went for ice cream, I barely knew you. I didn't want to cuddle you.
Evan
You say you don't know me, but you had me kiss your best friend.
Sienna
I almost didn't expect you to say that. You would, but then you did, and it was adorable.
Evan
And I like, you are a grown woman carrying around a stuffed animal. You suggested a horror movie. We went.
Sienna
So you collect action figures. What's the difference?
Evan
I Do collect action figures, but they sit on my shelf. I don't take them with me to the movies or to ice cream or ask you to kiss them.
Ashley
They're collector's items. It's different.
Brooke
Maybe you should have more of an emotional attachment, and you would feel more
Evan
secure to an action figure. What's wrong with you? There's absolutely no reason I should be going on a date with a woman and a stuffed animal.
Jeffrey
Okay, the stuffed animal has a name. It's Pebbles.
Ashley
So let's show Pebbles a little respect
Jeffrey
and address them appropriately.
Ashley
You kissed Pebbles before, so don't get all snippy with everybody.
Evan
Just on the nose. Just on the nose. Okay.
Brooke
Well, I mean, I. It's interesting that you can't look past it because she does sound like she's a very put together person. And it does feel a little hypocritical that you have action figures that.
Evan
That I don't take with me to the movie.
Sienna
Sure.
Brooke
I mean, that's your line, though. Like, that's just a. It feels like a line that maybe you could get past.
Ashley
You still both care about these things.
Sienna
She.
Evan
She's not the bad guy in this. But I'm not the bad guy either.
Brooke
Okay.
Ashley
It's.
Brooke
I mean, it's.
Sienna
You told me that you go to the ren fair. Like, what's the difference between that and, like, dressing up for the ren fair?
Ashley
Make believe. That's fine.
Evan
I go to the ren fair. I don't dress up for the rent fair.
Brooke
Then you're just lame. You can't go on. Not dress up. He goes. Judges other people for dressing up.
Jeffrey
Look at this guy wearing a suit of armor. Ew.
Brooke
Why is that?
Jeffrey
Pretty cool. All right, Evan, I think we've all heard enough of you. You picking up wenches at the ren fair? We just have to ask.
Evan
That's why you go.
Jeffrey
Okay.
Evan
Okay.
Jeffrey
Well, I have to ask you this question, even though I'm pretty sure I know the answer, because we would pay if you would go out on one more date with Sienna.
Brooke
If Sienna even wants it.
Jeffrey
I mean, yeah, I don't know Sienna.
Evan
Only if pebble stayed home. Wait.
Brooke
Oh, wait, you'd be open now if Pebbles wasn't there?
Sienna
No, because he already. Because he already said that he has a problem with stuffed animals. Pebbles is not my only, like, stuffed animal in my house.
Brooke
How many do you have?
Sienna
I probably have, like, three or four on my bed.
Evan
Oh.
Sienna
And, you know, I probably have, like, a hundred in a storage locker that I would bring out just for him.
Ashley
Oh.
Brooke
Oh.
Evan
Oh, dang.
Ashley
You're both collectors. You're kind of perfect for each other.
Brooke
That's a lot.
Jeffrey
Not weird.
Ashley
Do you kiss all of them? Okay, maybe don't answer them.
Brooke
Pebbles would be jealous.
Ashley
Yeah.
Brooke
So I guess that's a no.
Jeffrey
I mean, it sounds like it's not a match between Evan in Sienna, but who's gonna break the news to Pebbles?
Ashley
Awkward Tuesday phone call next week.
Jeffrey
I don't want to break his heart. He's not picking up.
Sienna
Said he was a terrible kisser.
Jeffrey
Worst nose kiss he's ever got. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning text in 78592. What do you think? Is it okay? Okay to bring stuffed animals with you on a date?
Brooke
I mean, if you call it a labubu and you spend a lot of money, then you're good, right?
Jeffrey
I mean, Brooke, you came to the defense of her for having a stuffed animal really quickly. But I didn't hear you say bringing it to a movie or out to ice cream was okay. Where do you stand on that?
Brooke
I mean, I don't know. She sounded put together. Then the line about the hundred and the story. I don't know. I do each their own. Obviously, it was not his thing. Yeah, obviously. Pebbles is very important to her, so I'm not gonna judge.
Jeffrey
What about with the kiss at the end of the stuffed animal?
Ashley
Not enough room. I'm sucking my thumb right now. Sorry. Wait your turn.
Brooke
Odd that he did it. Yeah.
Ashley
Oh.
Jeffrey
If you were single right now and you and I went out, would you have me kiss your glow worm?
Brooke
No, she only kisses me.
Ashley
Yeah.
Brooke
I do not let her know we don't share. Yeah. Gloria is mine, not anyone else. Can't believe you didn't ask that, Jeff. Yeah, that's Gloria, the glow worm.
Sienna
You know.
Jeffrey
Anyway, yeah, definitely was not a match today. It doesn't mean it can't be a match for you. Email the show. We'll call that who's not calling you back. And go check out all of our second date updates online, wherever you get your podcasts at Brooke and Jeffrey.
Podcast: Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Episode: Movie Mayhem
Date: August 5, 2026
Theme: The episode centers on exploring why Sienna, who had what she thought was a great first date with Evan, is being ghosted. The hosts call Evan to uncover the real reason for his silence—and the answer involves an unexpected third “guest” on their movie date.
Sienna joins the call, defending her right to take Pebbles:
Evan counters:
Both argue about the “difference” between collecting items and bringing them out in public; hosts joke about Ren Fairs, cosplay, and emotional attachments.
Conclusion:
Sienna’s date with Evan started strong—mutual interests, good conversation, a shared scare at a horror flick, and a cute first kiss. But Evan was turned off by her decision to bring (and involve) a large stuffed animal in their evening, culminating in a request for him to kiss it. Despite some mutual teasing, neither was willing to compromise: Evan balked at the plushie’s presence, Sienna refused to downplay her attachment. No second date—but plenty of laughs for all.
The conversation is light-hearted, irreverent, and peppered with playful jabs. Hosts take Sienna’s side but poke fun at everyone—including themselves—underscoring the show’s signature blend of empathy and entertainment. The episode stands out for its oddball “third wheel” plot twist—a cautionary tale (or validation) for adults with unconventional comfort objects.