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New week, new show. Hey, it's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. This is your second day podcast. We got a new episode today that really is about not jumping to conclusions. And some miscommunication is definitely, I feel like the theme today. It gets messy, real messy. But first comments. What do you got, Alexis? Yeah, Greece said nothing ever prepares me for some of this insanity. Since discovering the show, I've been heavily entertained. And I thought London dating was terrible, but maybe it's not. Oh, wow. I know. We still can't afford at our station to do international calling. Yeah, so someday we'll get to that. I'd be attracted to every international listener that calls in. I'd be the problem.
Tilly
I love the accents too much.
Jeffrey
I'd be like, they're all great people. God, it's so funny.
Jeff
All right.
Jeffrey
Alright, let's start your brand new second date update right now.
Jeff
Second date update. I am very curious to hear from the listener who wrote to us today. Cuz in her email she says she met a guy one time.
Jeffrey
Okay.
Jeff
It wasn't on an app. They never went on an actual date. Oh. Honestly, they don't really know anything about each other at all. What the heck is this? Like Craigslist? Missed connection. But yet still, she called him, quote, maybe the most romantic man I've ever met in my entire life.
Jeffrey
What? How I know romantic without knowing anything about each other?
Jeff
I'm wondering the same thing. How does she reach that conclusion? Let's find out. Her name is Tilly and she's on the line right now. So Tilly, I just got to say your email sounds full blown crazy. Is that bad of me to say?
Tilly
No, it is crazy. That's literally why I'm calling you. Because like, I've never heard of a situation like this. I've never been in a situation. Situation like this?
Jeff
You didn't watch a guy propose in the most romantic way possible and then you fell in love with him because you Saw how romantic he was.
Jeffrey
I'm thinking it's a movie.
Jeff
Yeah, that could be it.
Tilly
I mean, it felt like a movie. Like the meet cute moment.
Jeffrey
Okay, you. If we're talking movie level romance, you've got to set the whole scene for us.
Jeff
Yeah, tell us the whole story.
Tilly
Okay, so here's the story. I'm at the gym, and I'm at, like a pretty high end gym. I got lucky. I got a, you know, a membership through my work situation.
Jeff
Okay.
Tilly
Bougie looks like one of the fancy gy. There's like attendance and there's like a juice cafe in the back. But I've been working out. I'm actually almost done. Like, I'm on my treadmill. I'm cooling down. Okay. And this good looking man comes up on the treadmill next to me and we small talk. It's nothing crazy. Like, we talked for like less than 30 seconds. Like, it was quick.
Jeffrey
Yeah. But the timing's good because you're just walking and he's just starting, so.
Tilly
Yeah. And I don't really think anything of it. I go into the locker room, I change. Okay. Literally, as I'm walking to my car, I hear, miss, miss, wait, wait. I turn around. It's one of the gym attendants. He has flowers and a card from this man that I just met.
Jeff
Whoa.
Tilly
Like, honestly, this is part of the mystery, because how did this man secure flowers that fast? And a card?
Jeff
Yeah. That's insane.
Jeffrey
Okay. I am so jaded that my first thought is he's been watching you and was prepared for this moment.
Jeff
Is that possible? Have you seen him before in the gym?
Tilly
I guess it's possible, but I certainly didn't recognize at all.
Jeffrey
Okay.
Jeff
It felt spontaneous. That's crazy.
Tilly
It felt very spontaneous, which was part of the reason I'm like, how did you manage that? But there's a number on the card, so I obviously text the number and I'm like, thank you so much for the flowers. I'm so flattered. But he is not the one that answered the text. It was somebody that was like, oh, this is his assistant.
Jeffrey
Oh.
Jeff
Then, yeah, they can make it happen even quicker.
Jeffrey
It's kind of weird that he gave you his assistant's phone number and not his phone number. I was just about to say that.
Jeff
Unless he wants wanted her to know that he had an assistant.
Jeffrey
Like, you knew she'd text her flex.
Jeff
That's possible. It's something Jose would for sure do. Absolutely. By the way, I have two agents. I don't know if anybody realizes okay. Okay.
Jeffrey
Hey, did you ever actually talk to him? Like, do we know his name?
Tilly
That's the thing. I don't know his name.
Jeffrey
What?
Jeff
What?
Jeffrey
He didn't even send a good first text introducing himself?
Tilly
No, the assistant says, there is actually a gift waiting for you at a jewelry store and gives me an address.
Jeffrey
Oh, now.
Jeff
Whoa.
Jeffrey
I don't know if this is romantic anymore. Now I'm getting worried.
Jeff
Yeah, well, nobody cares what you think. It's only if Tilly thinks it's romantic. A sugar baby situation.
Jeffrey
It feels like I don't have a good personality, so let me buy you this. Did you go to the jewelry store?
Tilly
I was curious. Of course I went. I'm in it for the plot.
Jeff
I mean, yeah, you're doing this for the plot alone, Tilly, so we support you in this decision. What happened at the jewelry store?
Tilly
I go to the jewelry store, and there is a bracelet waiting there for me. And I will say, like, I don't feel like I can be bought, but I can be impressed. And it's between flowers and a bracelet. I'm kind of impressed, even though I don't know anything about him, including his name.
Jeffrey
So.
Jeff
Wait. Yeah. Oh, my God. This is wild.
Jeffrey
There's no setup of a date.
Tilly
Okay, So I get the bracelet, and then I text the only number I have back to the assistant, and I'm basically like, let's set this up. Like, how do we meet? Or whatever. So we set up a whole situation, a time and a place to meet, and then I go there, and he doesn't show up. And now nobody's answering this number.
Jeff
This seems like he does this, like he set the trap. He gives you jewelry, he doesn't show up.
Jeffrey
Why?
Jeff
Now you're like, what is going on? And now you have to get a hold of him. Yes, I want to be in that game. Pop me into a humor game.
Tilly
It doesn't sound fun.
Jeff
It sounds like he's going to play a lot of games with.
Jeffrey
I mean, why would he stand you up? Like, that's what I don't get.
Tilly
My friends think maybe he's married or maybe that was some sort of scam. But if it was a scam, then, like, where's the request to get my money or whatever?
Jeffrey
I don't know. But you better make sure that bracelet doesn't have a tracker in it. This is wild. This is a wild story.
Jeff
Yeah. I mean, I was kind of skeptical at the start of this when you said he was the most romantic guy of all time, but after hearing the Story. I think Brooke is 100% sold. In fact, she's probably ready to leave her husband depending on how this call goes. When we come back, Nameless man.
Jeffrey
I already don't trust this guy.
Jeff
You're only saying that because you're jealous, bro. To call this mystery guy in just.
Jeffrey
A second or call his assistant, you mean.
Jeff
Whoever it is, I'm excited to talk to anybody that picks up this phone number and try and get you your second date update. Right after this second date update, our listener Tilly told us in part one that she met the most romantic guy ever. And wow, she was not kidding. Met a guy on the treadmill at the gym. They talked for 30 seconds, but as she's leaving just a few minutes later, she's being chased down, handed a giant bouquet of flowers.
Jeffrey
Not by him.
Jeff
From, like, the gym assistant guy is told it's from treadmill dude. He already has a handwritten note for her and a phone number for his assistant. Later, she's told there's a necklace and a bracelet waiting for her at a jewelry store, which turns out to be true.
Jeffrey
Well, I think it was just a bracelet. I mean, don't oversell it.
Jeff
It wasn't a necklace. Jeff. Never mind. This guy sucks. Forget it. I thought he was romantic. You guys are right. He's a loser. Gems on it? No. Okay, so it was pretty cool until the weird part was she was stood up by him waiting at a coffee shop where she thought they were going to meet.
Jeffrey
Tilly, are you nervous? Are you, like, what are you feeling right now?
Tilly
At this point, it's so crazy that I'm assuming it's not going to work out, but I cannot move on until I know what the story is.
Jeffrey
Yes. Yes.
Jeff
We love it. The bottom line is we need to figure out who this guy is or figure out some answer. So till he can get some peace.
Jeffrey
Of mind, all we have is his assistance number.
Brooke
Right.
Jeffrey
So that's who we're calling.
Jeff
Yes. So that's all we have to go off of. We're just going to call it and see what happens.
Jeffrey
I don't know, but be polite. Like, this guy sounds professional. We need to keep it buttoned up.
Jeff
Yeah, I would take that advice and turn it right around at yourself. That'd be really good. If he has an assistant, he's always busy. Like, we call and she's going to be like, he's not available, and we'll see. Let's find out. All right. Only one way to know. I'm going to dial this number. We'll see who picks up and what happens. But here we go.
Mitchell
Hello?
Jeff
Hi. Hi. My. My name is Jeff.
Jeffrey
Professional Jeff.
Jeff
I don't even know who this is, so.
Mitchell
Hello?
Jeff
Yeah, hi. Sorry. So I work for a radio show called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning. And this is gonna sound kind of odd because I don't really know who I'm calling for here, but we have a woman who is a friend of the show. Her name is Tilly. And I believe your boss sent her flowers and gave her a bracelet. Do I have the wrong person?
Mitchell
Yeah. I don't want to talk about this.
Jeff
Well, just hold on. Do you know a lot about this?
Jeffrey
What do you mean you don't want to talk about this?
Jeff
What the heck? What was that a click?
Jeffrey
Are you kidding me?
Jeff
Did he hang up?
Jeffrey
Oh, no. Oh, he is not gonna stand us up. You better call him back, okay?
Tilly
It's rude.
Jeff
It's probably because you were scaring him.
Tilly
Brooks, I did not scare him. Well, call him back.
Mitchell
Yeah.
Jeff
Okay, I'm gonna dial it again. Here we go. Hold on.
Mitchell
I don't want to talk about this.
Jeff
Hey. Okay. Okay.
Jeffrey
Coming in a little hot.
Tilly
Okay.
Jeffrey
Nice of you to answer, though.
Tilly
Thank you.
Jeff
Listen, I. We're not trying to get into anybody' here. Especially anybody with a lot of money. Cuz our lawyers aren't good enough to handle anything like that. Yeah, I know it seems like we don't. The thing is, we're just reaching out because we need to get a general answer about what happened with Tilly and this guy that we're trying to get a hold of.
Jeffrey
Yeah, because it started out romantic, and now it's feeling not so great.
Jeff
That's the thing you don't know is our friend Tilly was completely blown away by this gesture, I'm assuming from your boss. I still don't know if that's true yet. We don't have closure here. But we're talking way too much. So I should just let you say something if you're still there.
Mitchell
Oh, okay.
Jeffrey
That is the most unprofessional thing an assistant could say.
Jeff
Don't berate him. We're gonna lose him again. Okay. Do you know what I'm talking about with Tilly?
Mitchell
I do.
Jeff
Okay, well, what's going on? Can you fill us in? Because we're very confused.
Mitchell
Okay, so here's the deal. This got messed up. It's way different than I thought it was gonna go messed up.
Jeff
Wait, so there was what got messed up?
Mitchell
I'm not the guy that was on the Treadmill.
Jeffrey
So you're the assistant?
Jeff
You're his assistant?
Mitchell
Okay, I'm an assistant. I'm an assistant at the gym.
Jeffrey
What?
Jeff
Huh?
Jeffrey
Wait.
Jeff
You were.
Jeffrey
Wait, You're a gym employee? You work at the gym?
Mitchell
Yeah, I'm the one that brought her the flowers.
Jeffrey
Oh, you're the one that rushed out and brought the flowers from the treadmill.
Jeff
Guy to her with the. No. Yes. Okay, Wait.
Jeffrey
Why would she have your number? I thought she had the assistant's number.
Mitchell
Yeah, this whole thing got messed up. That's what I'm saying. The whole thing got messed up.
Jeff
What The. What whole thing? You're gonna have to explain a little bit, because we. We were under the impression we were calling the assistant of the rich guy on the treadmill.
Mitchell
I don't know if he has an assistant. I don't know.
Jeffrey
Do you have a name? What's your name?
Mitchell
Mitchell.
Jeff
Okay, Mitchell. Okay, so tell us what you do know.
Mitchell
I know I've had a crush on her for two months.
Jeffrey
Oh, no.
Jeff
You've had a crush on Tilly?
Mitchell
Yeah.
Jeffrey
I.
Tilly
What?
Jeff
What the heck? Wait, wait, wait.
Jeffrey
Were the flowers not from the guy? Were the flowers from you?
Mitchell
Yes.
Jeffrey
Oh, my God.
Jeff
Hold on.
Brooke
What?
Jeff
Treadmill guy? Where is he? Okay, now I'm totally flown.
Jeffrey
You're saying the flowers were from him? Is what he's saying.
Jeff
Right.
Mitchell
But I'd been planning to approach her for a couple of months. I did not know how to do it.
Jeff
Okay, because you see her in the gym. Because you work there.
Mitchell
And I had flowers waiting for her that day.
Jeff
Oh.
Jeffrey
Why didn't you take credit for the flowers?
Mitchell
Because I'm not rich. When I walked out to give her the flowers, it was like she was seeing just an employee.
Jeffrey
She didn't even say she liked rich guys, though.
Mitchell
People go to that gym to meet rich guys.
Jeffrey
No, Mitchell.
Jeff
Is she a rich girl?
Jeffrey
Mitchell, she goes to that gym because her work gives her a free membership there. That's why she goes to the gym.
Mitchell
And also the rich guys?
Jeff
No, to his credit, it can be both.
Jeffrey
So, wait. Why? I don't understand. Still.
Tilly
I don't understand either. What is going on?
Jeff
Yeah, let's just. Let's just break the facade and tell you, because Mitchell Tilly is actually been listening to this call on the other line waiting to talk to. I mean, not necessarily you, but I guess, yeah, you.
Jeffrey
Well, she was waiting to talk to whoever gave her the flowers and the bracelet, which we haven't even gotten a close answer to.
Jeff
Wait a minute. Bracelet?
Mitchell
Okay. Yeah.
Tilly
This is so crazy. Hold on. Let's clear this up. So you've had a crush on me. You were planning a big romantic gesture, and then while you were in the midst of doing it, you somehow decided that I was just a gold digger and that the best course of action would be to lie to me.
Jeff
I mean, a gold, maybe, bracelet digger.
Mitchell
I wasn't just assuming you were a gold digger.
Tilly
Isn't that what you said? You said you came out, and I. I looked at you like you were just an employee at the gym, even though you are an employee at the gym, and I was just leaving the gym.
Mitchell
Let's be honest. In the real world, you're not going out with a gym assistant.
Jeffrey
What?
Mitchell
And as I was about to give you the flowers, I saw that look on your face, and that's when I knew that.
Tilly
That is so ridiculous. The look on my face would have been, why is the gym assistant running at me with flowers? Yeah. I mean, for you to put all this on me. You built this entire fancy fantasy up in your head over the course of two months, only to just decide that that's what I want. But how dare I? Like, what are you even saying? This doesn't make any sense.
Mitchell
And that's why I didn't go to the coffee shop. I figured it would end something like this, and that's what happened.
Tilly
You didn't figure it would end something like this because you figured it would never start, because you figured I was going to judge you based on your job or how much money you had.
Mitchell
I really like you to focus just.
Tilly
A little more, just a little more.
Mitchell
On the flowers and bracelets.
Jeff
That's nice that you did that.
Jeffrey
You got to hear her.
Tilly
I'm going to tell you what. I'm going to return the bracelet because I don't care what anybody's job is. But if that's what you think of me, then there's nothing here.
Jeffrey
Oh, Mitchell, you dug your own grave, man.
Mitchell
So are you saying I can't, like, just say hello to you anymore when you come to the gym?
Tilly
I can't imagine why you would want to at this point.
Jeffrey
Yeah.
Jeff
Yeah, bro.
Jeffrey
Yeah, dude job.
Brooke
If he's at the front, he might.
Tilly
Have to.
Jeff
At least need to, like, scan your card when you come in at a bare minimum, but have more confidence.
Jeffrey
She could have really fallen for you had you played this totally differently.
Mitchell
I just. I think you're wrong there. I don't think it was gonna happen.
Tilly
I'm gonna tell you what you should do. Continue to judge people before you know them at all and see how well that works out for you. Because clearly it's going great.
Jeffrey
That was sarcasm, Mitchell, if you didn't catch it.
Jeff
Well, it's at this point, this point, that I would like to jump in and offer another date.
Jeffrey
I love when the most romantic stories end this way.
Jeff
Yeah, see, now normally we would ask the person that we're calling. But in this situation, since so much has happened and things have changed, Tilly will ask you first.
Tilly
Are you out of your mind?
Jeff
I only said that because Brooke was making me ask the question. So it's really her fault.
Tilly
Yeah, that's how carryo, bro.
Jeff
Yeah, bro. That was really awful. So this called in go the way that we wanted it to go. But Mitchell, do you have any last words for us or for Tilly?
Mitchell
Look, I'm so sorry this whole thing went this way. It was a misunderstanding from get go. But Tilly, if you could just. Next time you're at the gym, wipe down the equipment after you use it.
Jeff
He has been watching her the entire time.
Jeffrey
You're that type of girl, Tilly.
Tilly
And now we're just spreading lies. I always wipe down my equipment.
Jeffrey
Okay.
Jeff
Well, at least Mitchell got a shot in on the way out. So there you go, Mitchell. Win for and Jeffrey in the morning.
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Jeffrey
Good lord. It was a good lesson though, to not assume things about people.
Jeff
Yeah, but if I am reading the text board right, a lot of people are saying Tilly needed to give Mitchell a break.
Tilly
Really?
Jeff
She did go. Kinda. I felt bad for him.
Jeffrey
She waited 30 minutes for a coffee.
Tilly
Shop for him to not show up.
Jeffrey
Yeah, he ditched her. He never showed up. And then he accused her of being a gold digger without even knowing her.
Jeff
Yeah, well, I understand that idea, but listen to this text at 78592. Someone said, clearly Mitchell is a guy who does not value himself. He has low self image, low self esteem. But we should still see him for what he is. A regular guy. Guy who had a big crush on a girl for two months. Yes, he had a bad plan, but he has a good heart.
Jeffrey
Yeah, but to me that means you need to work on yourself and get your self image up before you. You gotta love yourself, man, before you can love somebody else. That's just how it goes.
Jeff
Doesn't excuse leaving someone on a date. That is true. I mean, all that is really well said. I do hope Mitchell knows that he's not the worst person in the world before he buys a gift for his next gym crush for two months. Don't buy them gifts immediately. He's like, I'm broke.
Jeffrey
What are you guys thinking? He's got a whole bracelet to re g. Yeah, he's good.
Jeff
That's fair.
Tilly
And a whole gym full of hot women.
Jeff
There you go. And I also hope Mitchell subscribes to our YouTube page and he listens to all of our second date updates while he's wiping sweat off of all the gym equipment.
Jeffrey
Yeah, because you know those high end clients don't do it themselves.
Jeff
No, they don't. But go check that out. If you haven't subscribed to our podcast, they're up. Available wherever you get yours at.
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Date: September 15, 2025
Podcast: Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update by iHeartPodcasts
In this episode of “Second Date Update,” the team investigates a truly bizarre tale of mistaken identities, romance, and miscommunication at a high-end gym. Listener Tilly recounts how a mysterious, whirlwind gesture from “Treadmill Man” turned into confusion, disappointment, and eventually, an on-air confrontation. The hosts and Tilly try to uncover the real story behind the gym encounter, discovering how assumptions and insecurities derailed what could have been a meet-cute for the ages.
Key themes of the episode:
[04:13–08:21]
“He has flowers and a card from this man that I just met.” — Tilly [06:14]
“There is a bracelet waiting there for me.” — Tilly [08:02]
[09:33–14:56]
“I don’t want to talk about this.” — Mitchell, initially evasive [11:46, 12:51]
[14:56–19:02]
“I’m not the guy that was on the treadmill... I’m an assistant at the gym.” — Mitchell [14:11–14:22]
“So you’ve had a crush on me... and then decided I was just a gold digger and... lied to me?” — Tilly [16:48–17:09]
“If that’s what you think of me, then there’s nothing here.” — Tilly [18:27]
[19:06–23:26]
“You gotta love yourself, man, before you can love somebody else.” — Jeffrey [22:47]
Tilly, on the gym encounter:
“It felt like a movie. Like the meet-cute moment.” [05:08]
Suspicion among the hosts:
“He’s been watching you and was prepared for this moment.” — Jeffrey [06:22]
Mitchell (the gym assistant) admits the truth:
“I’ve had a crush on her for two months.” [15:07]
“I saw that look on your face, and that’s when I knew...” [17:17]
Tilly’s reaction to being pre-judged:
“You built this entire fancy fantasy up in your head... only to just decide that’s what I want. But how dare I?... This doesn’t make any sense.” [17:59]
Mitchell, still defensive:
“People go to that gym to meet rich guys.” [16:03]
Closure (or lack thereof):
“I’m gonna return the bracelet because I don’t care what anybody’s job is. But if that’s what you think of me, then there’s nothing here.” — Tilly [18:27]
Hosts reflecting:
“It was a good lesson, though, to not assume things about people.” — Jeffrey [22:05]
“He ditched her. He never showed up. And then he accused her of being a gold digger without even knowing her.” — Jeffrey [22:21]
| Timestamp | Segment | |-------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 03:14–04:01 | Show intro, setup for Second Date Update | | 04:01–08:21 | Tilly recounts her mysterious, romantic gym story | | 08:21–09:33 | Hosts theorize about the mystery and arrange to call the “assistant” | | 09:33–14:56 | First and second calls to Mitchell (the “assistant”), initial stonewalling | | 14:56–19:06 | The true story unravels — Mitchell’s confession, Tilly’s reaction | | 19:06–22:05 | Hosts process, audience reactions, aftermath feedback | | 22:05–end | Reflective takeaways and closing banter (excluding ads and sponsor credits) |
Final Thought (from Jeffrey):
“You gotta love yourself, man, before you can love somebody else. That’s just how it goes.” [22:47]