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Brooke
The murder of an 18 year old girl in Graves County, Kentucky went unsolved for years until a local housewife, a journalist and a handful of girls came forward with a story.
Decker
America, y' all better wake the hell up. Bad things happens to good people in small towns.
Brooke
Listen to Graves county on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. And to binge the entire season ad free, subscribe to Lava for Good plus on Apple Podcasts.
Jeff
It'S Ana Ortiz and I'm Markin Delicato. You might know us as Hilda and Justin from Ugly Betty. Welcome to our new podcast, Be My Bethy. Yay. We're rewatching from start to finish and getting into all the fashions, the drama and the behind the scenes moments that you've never heard before but you were still bartending. I didn't know that.
Brooke
The bar pack is like, is that.
Jeff
You and I turn around and it's a commercial for Betty.
Brooke
And I was like, I gotta go. I quit.
Jeff
Listen to Viva Betty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
Brooke
In early 1988, federal agents race to track down the gang they suspect of importing millions of dollars worth of heroin into New York from Asia.
Jeff
Had 30 agents ready to go with.
Decker
Shotguns and rifles and you name it. Five, six white people pushed me in the car.
Jeff
I'm going, what the hell? Basically your stay at home moms were picking up these large amounts of heroin.
Decker
All you gotta do is receive the package. Don't have to open it, just accept it. She was very upset, crying. Once I saw the gun, I tried.
Brooke
To take his hand and I saw the flash of light. Listen to the Chinatown sting on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or anywhere you get your podcasts.
Jeff
What's up everybody? It's snacks from The Trapped Nerds. All October long, we're bringing you the horror. Boogity, boogity, boogity. We kicking off this month with some of my best horror games to keep you terrified. Then we'll be talking about our favorite horror and Halloween movies and figuring out why black people always die first.
Decker
And it's the return of Tony's horror.
Jeff
Show side quests, written and narrated by yours, Trul.
Decker
We'll also be doing a full episode reading with commentary.
Jeff
And we'll cap it off with a horror movie battle royale. Open your free Aha Radio app and search Trap Nerds podcast and listen now.
Brooke
Hey, we got you today. Brand new second date here coming up. But first, let's reflect, shall we, shall we, on telling your mother in law that you need a lovemaking session with her son.
Jeff
Oh, my God.
Brooke
That was yesterday's awkward Tuesday phone call. If you have not listened to it, you should right now. We got a lot of comments on that one. What do you see, Alexis? Yeah, Keeler's World said, as embarrassing as that is, I don't know any man in my personal world that wouldn't be very happy and very proud to have a wife that desires them like that. The mother in law will eventually get grandbabies if that's what they're working towards, you know. There we go. Well, definitely leave your thoughts and musings.
Decker
We'll call them.
Brooke
Yeah. Today's second day. It's starting right now.
Jeff
Second date update. There's a ton of bad dating terms out there to describe what happened to you. Whether you got catfish or breadcrumbed or Mongolian barbecued.
Brooke
Why does it all taste the same?
Jeff
It's supposed to be a bad thing. But I'm curious. Is there a term for when your date shows up to meet you and then cancels almost instantly for the rest of the night?
Brooke
Wait, what?
Jeff
After she saw you after you meet up.
Brooke
You're in.
Jeff
You're.
Brooke
You're together.
Jeff
Yeah. And then they like. No, actually, never mind.
Brooke
Oh, dude, I think that's disappointment or honesty.
Jeff
Yeah, brutal honesty. Maybe it's one sip wondered. Because we need to figure out whatever the term is.
Brooke
Apparently that's going to catch on, but.
Jeff
Yeah, okay, disappointed is what we'll go with for now. Apparently it happened to our listener Decker that his date bailed almost immediately. At least that's what I got from reading his email. So let's talk about it. Decker, welcome to the show, man.
Decker
Hey, how you doing?
Brooke
Dude, why would you even want to call this person back if they were that Rude.
Decker
You know, I'm not even. I'm not even sure if she was so rude. I just. I can't figure it out.
Jeff
Huh.
Brooke
Maybe we need to understand the story more.
Jeff
No, let's draw conclusions right now without knowing anything.
Brooke
Usually how I like to do it.
Jeff
I think he had bad hair. Yeah. You know what? Maybe we'll get a few details from you, Decker, if that's okay. Let's just start from the beginning. What's this girl's name?
Decker
Kelsey.
Brooke
Okay. And where'd you guys meet?
Decker
Bumble.
Brooke
Okay, so it was an online date.
Decker
Okay, you know, I'll be honest. The last couple of months, I've been getting a much more positive response on my Bumble profile. I changed my main picture, and I feel like that did the trick.
Brooke
What was the big change in the photo?
Jeff
Yeah, what other person did you use as your profile picture?
Decker
No, no, I took It's My Face, but I superimposed it on another person's body in a picture. Well, you know, Luke Combs is in the picture. It was a picture with Luke Combs, and it's. It's my face, so I'm in the picture with Luke Combs.
Brooke
But you never actually met him. You never actually met Luke Combs.
Decker
I mean, I've actually met a lot of famous people. I worked backstage in some music venues, so I've met a lot of. But I didn't have a picture with Luke Combs.
Jeff
Why use another picture of another celebrity brother? Well, is it a really good Photoshop job, or is it a really, like, obviously fake one where people would be like, oh, that's funny.
Decker
No, it's a. It's a pretty good job. I mean, why do you think she went out with me?
Brooke
Dating terms. You catfished her. Yeah, well, here's. Here's. Is the body type similar to your body type?
Decker
Yeah, I think I could pull off.
Jeff
An eight pack, no problem.
Decker
Sure.
Brooke
Interesting.
Jeff
Okay, well, it got her interested in you, at least. So tell us about where the conversation went from there.
Decker
We had. Look, we had good conversation. We decided to meet up. I know through talking to her that she's a big live music fan, and I thought, let's do something fun. So I got us some tickets to go see Morgan Wallen in concert. Oh, wow.
Brooke
Okay. So you're just leaning into this country world.
Jeff
All right, well, that's a big show. Country's popular.
Brooke
It's expensive. 400 each.
Decker
You gotta. You gotta go big or, you know, don't go at all.
Brooke
Okay. Okay. I bet she was excited how did.
Jeff
She take the news that she was gonna be seeing Morgan Wallen live? In person?
Decker
I mean, she was into it. And we texted throughout the week, and things were going good. Now, a few days before I was gonna go with her, I realized I had to take my car to the shop, and it got stuck there for a few extra days. So I was scrambling, and I borrowed a buddy of mine's car, and he's got a perfectly nice car. It wasn't a big deal, but.
Brooke
So now you got a fake body and a fake car.
Jeff
You're so fake, bro.
Decker
Not true. The body was similar, and so was the car.
Brooke
Okay, so wait, you even picked her up before this concert?
Decker
Yeah, Yeah, I picked her up. And as I'm driving to pick her up, I look, I'm looking in the rear view mirror, check my hair, and I see that my buddy left these car seats in the back of the car.
Jeff
He has kids.
Brooke
Pull over. Put him in the trunk quick.
Decker
I should have done that, but I didn't. Right. When she climbed in, I mean, it's the first thing she noticed. Yeah.
Jeff
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Decker
So I explained the situation, and she seemed. Okay.
Jeff
Okay. You told her it was your friend's car, and those are.
Decker
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jeff
Oh, that's good. Then you don't feel very fake like we were insinuating earlier.
Brooke
But you said, like, at what point did she leave? Like, did you guys get into the concert ever?
Decker
Well, we went and we stopped and got some food and a drink. One drink at a bar.
Jeff
Okay.
Decker
And almost immediately, she says, I'm not feeling well. I'm feeling a little nauseous. And so she goes to the bathroom a couple of times, and finally she just says, you know, I'm sorry, I'm not feeling well. I think you're gonna have to take me home.
Brooke
Oh, well, that feels legit, though. That doesn't even feel like an excuse. No, but why would she not tell you to go to the concert without her and, like, Uber herself home?
Decker
That's true. I mean, she brought up a lot of different options. I mean, I think she felt bad about it, but what she made clear was, I just don't think I can go.
Jeff
Okay, well, Brooke doesn't respect this woman. After just one drink, she's saying that.
Brooke
Ew.
Jeff
Right, Brooke.
Brooke
My guess is that she was trying to power through Jeffrey, and then she realized while they at the restaurant, like, ugh, I just. I can't do it.
Jeff
But this sounds real. Like, I believe her. Why would anybody not go to the concert if you're using your line. You had the tickets.
Decker
Right.
Brooke
They weren't on her phone. That she would.
Jeff
That's a good point.
Decker
She turns around and goes, yes, I had the ticket.
Brooke
Okay. Okay.
Decker
And I honestly, I really did believe that she wanted to go.
Brooke
Yeah.
Decker
But I take her home, I drop her off. I've texted her since then saying, I hope you're feeling better. I hope you're doing okay. And also said, but we should find a chance to, you know, have a do over. And she says, thank you for checking in. But she has not once responded to the idea of another date.
Jeff
Okay. It sounds like she was actually sick. Is this boring?
Decker
If this is like.
Brooke
But she also doesn't want to see him.
Jeff
Yeah.
Brooke
You know, both things may be true.
Decker
Oh.
Jeff
Cause she's not responding. That's true. We'll find out where the truth really lies when we come back and call Kelsey and try and get you your country themed second date update. Yeehaw. We're doing it right after this. Banjo's ready.
Brooke
This is it. We're not country people.
Jeff
Hold on. Second date update. What would make a woman cancel a concert date for one of the biggest music artists in the world right before they walk into the show? Wow. Because that's what happened to our listener Decker. His date, Kelsey, suddenly told him that she wasn't feeling good and had to go home. So they never made it into the actual venue.
Brooke
You. Maybe she realized she was going to a country music show and that's well dawned on her late.
Jeff
They had talked about it. They talked about it earlier. And she had expressed excitement and interest in going.
Brooke
I'm just joking.
Jeff
All of, like, the sickness stuff would have been believable except for the fact that Kelsey's barely answering him at all after that night. Which is why Decker thinks something else must be going on other than just the sickness. Still, what can be so bad you're going to skip one of the biggest concerts?
Brooke
I mean, but they're not fun if you don't like the person you're with.
Decker
Yeah.
Brooke
I think we need to know how different he looked from his profile picture than real catfished or. He's a liar.
Decker
I'm not a liar. The point of it was that I would look like I was buddies with, you know, a country star. It wasn't about the whole body thing.
Brooke
Decker. That. That's also a lie. Yeah. My mind would go to. He paid for a meet and greet, not his buddies.
Decker
Look, I've met a lot of famous people, just not that famous.
Brooke
Dude, I think we're just going to keep going on this circle, this. This cycle if we don't just continue.
Jeff
I mean, I'm having fun on this circle right now, but we'll hop off for a second just to call Kelsey. I'm a dial her number right now. Here we go.
Brooke
Hello?
Jeff
Hey, is this Kelsey?
Decker
It's Kelsey. Who's this?
Jeff
Hey, Kelsey. This is a radio show. We're called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning.
Brooke
Hi, Kelsey.
Jeff
What's up? Kelsey? Good morning.
Decker
Whoa. A lot of people.
Brooke
The whole show's here.
Jeff
Yeah. And we're doing this segment. I'm not sure if you're familiar with it. It's called a second date update.
Decker
Okay.
Brooke
Okay.
Jeff
Take that as a no. What we're trying to do is we're trying to help out one of our listeners to figure out if there's a reason you haven't really been talking to him much after your first. We'll call it a half date. A guy named Decker that you met up with recently.
Decker
Okay.
Jeff
The thing is, Deckers confused why there hasn't been any communication between you two after that night.
Decker
Okay.
Jeff
And by the way, we do hope that you feel better because we heard that you were a little under the weather.
Decker
Yes.
Jeff
Right before the concert. You missed a whole concert. I mean, you must have been sick.
Decker
Okay. Yeah, I am feeling better. Thank you. That's good.
Brooke
Is Decker reading it right that you don't want to hang out with him again?
Decker
I just. I mean, the date wasn't what I expected.
Brooke
Yeah.
Jeff
Okay, well, I can tell you what he told us was that he had planned this really fun concert night at the Morgan Wallen show. He picked you up in his friend's.
Brooke
Car, which he didn't realize had car seats in the back seat until you got in, which sounds like that would have been pretty shocking for you.
Decker
It was a. It was like ayo. It was his body's car. Great. Because, you know, then friends with people who have families, that always seems nice.
Jeff
Okay, there's not much left to what he told us. He said you stopped off somewhere to grab a quick drink right before the show, and then almost immediately, you started to feel sick and had to go home.
Decker
All right, that is true.
Brooke
Okay, is it true that you were actually sick?
Decker
That is not true.
Brooke
Okay, interesting. So something happened where you had to fake it just to get out of the date.
Decker
Look, I was excited. I mean, this guy, I was thinking, this guy must really like me. These are expensive tickets. This concert is sold out. I know it is. And we get to the bar for a drink and food. And then he tells me to deal with the tickets.
Brooke
What's the deal?
Decker
He says that one of us has to pretend to be hurt.
Brooke
What?
Decker
What? He brought crutches in a boot? He says they're in the trunk.
Brooke
Wait, one of you has to pretend to be disabled for the night?
Decker
I mean, I injured. You know, why.
Jeff
Why would he. Why would somebody need to do that?
Decker
Because we have to get to the disabled seats. He says to me, oh, my God.
Jeff
He bought seats in a disabled section.
Decker
They're hard tickets to get. This is the only way he could get these tickets.
Brooke
Y. No.
Jeff
If people don't know, they don't go to events. There is a specific section for disabled people that need wheelchairs or crutches.
Brooke
Absolutely.
Jeff
Yeah.
Decker
And so I've.
Jeff
I've actually had this combo with my friends before. Like, how awful would it be if somebody faked it? So you're saying the thought has crossed your mind before. Okay, but you talked yourself out of it, so.
Brooke
Wait, okay, are you sure he wasn't joking?
Decker
Okay, now, I never saw the crutches. I never saw the boot.
Brooke
Okay?
Decker
I'm like, no, I gotta get out of here. I can't. I cannot do that.
Jeff
No wonder you.
Brooke
He's got a real loose moral line, that's for sure.
Jeff
Totally.
Decker
See now?
Jeff
And I'm sure he's not going to be too happy that you faked being sick in front of him to get out of a date.
Brooke
Because what she did is nothing compared.
Decker
To, well, I don't know, in front of one person instead of 10,000 or.
Jeff
However many in there, there's millions of people listening. Yeah, a lot of people are listening. While Decker is on the other line, too, wanting to talk to you.
Decker
Oh, man. No. Oh, God.
Brooke
You don't have to feel bad. He's got to feel bad in this situation.
Jeff
Dec, Are you.
Decker
Yeah, I'm here, Decker.
Jeff
You know what? More than anyone, I believe that there's always two sides to any story.
Brooke
Okay, so I'll let you take his side then, on this one.
Jeff
I'm not taking aside. I'm just wanting to hear what your explanation is, Decker, for what we just heard.
Decker
Yeah, well, exactly. There are two sides. And the thing is, is, look, if you've been to a concert, you know that this was big money. I didn't want to spend all that money to go to this concert and then see the back of somebody's head. Doesn't matter.
Brooke
Oh, my go. So not only did you not do it because you couldn't get tickets. You just wanted better seats.
Decker
Yeah, I paid for the tickets. I paid for the tickets.
Brooke
They're not for you. You're not allowed to buy those tickets. They're not for you.
Jeff
There could have been somebody who wanted to go to the concert who's like, I don't know, has crutches and they couldn't go because of you.
Brooke
You're an able bodied man.
Decker
Exactly. I am able bodied, but Kelsey, she's not. She had the crutches in the boot. Oh, my God. How many other women have you gotten into this boot?
Jeff
Oh, my God.
Brooke
Yeah.
Jeff
Does this work ever, bro? Yeah. Is that. Is that a normal ploy that you've done before?
Decker
He said he goes a lot of.
Brooke
I don't know if I want to hear the answer.
Decker
No, I. I bought them for this date.
Brooke
That's it. And you didn't measure your own foot before you bought it? Like, what the hell? You throw her under the bus?
Decker
No, look, it was a deal that I got online. I was hustling to get this date with her because I want to make it special, okay?
Jeff
He knew that Kelsey was a big country fan and was willing to do whatever it took in order to get her into this amazing show.
Brooke
Oh, yeah. How romantic, Jeff.
Decker
Well, that's something. No, that's something that you confer with your date about in advance. Like, I don't even think I could enjoy that. Even if we were dating for a year. I don't think I could do that.
Jeff
Wow, Chivalry's dead.
Brooke
I hope you could just say you could never do that. I don't know the length of the relationship.
Jeff
Well, I mean, how good are they? These seats in this particular section? They sound pretty good from what, de first body? Cat body.
Decker
All right, look, it didn't happen. It's in the past. I was able to sell the tickets for a profit anyway, so it's all good.
Brooke
So someone who was actually disabled who could have bought the tickets wasn't able to because you had purchased them and then they were.
Jeff
They were in the disabled section. So it must have been a disabled person that got to go for the show just for a little bit more money than they would have paid otherwise. Hey, the tickets come with a free boot. Here, put this on.
Brooke
Decker.
Decker
I just want to say, like, it just makes you think, like, what other kinds of lies are. Okay.
Brooke
Yeah, like, who make him think that.
Jeff
Come up with something.
Brooke
Like, who you're friends with. Right? Like what celebrities you've actually met and what celebrities you haven't Decker.
Decker
I've met a lot of celebrities, Brooke. I don't know who you're talking about specifically.
Jeff
Yeah, he's talking about us, obviously, because he's a friend of the show. Friend of mine. Maybe I shouldn't have said that.
Brooke
I'm sorry. I'm not claiming Decker.
Decker
Okay, okay, look, you've all made your point, okay? We just. We don't see eye to eye on this. But what I'm going to say is the past is the past. And look, Kelsey, like I said, I made a couple extra bucks off of it. Why don't we pretend that this didn't happen and let's go to another. You want to go out on another date and use the money you made off of disabled people?
Jeff
You say it that way. We don't know if they were disabled.
Decker
Oh, my God.
Jeff
Not officially.
Decker
Doesn't matter who bought the tickets. Okay? I don't know. Just go out with me again.
Jeff
If you say yes to another day, we would pay for it.
Brooke
We would not.
Jeff
Okay?
Brooke
I am not participating in this.
Jeff
Well, at least pay for the handicapped parking sticker that he'll put on his car. What are we going to do then, Brooke?
Brooke
We're just. She's not going to say yes. Kelsey, would you ever say yes to this in a million years?
Decker
Yeah. No, I'm going to say no. It's like there's got to be a line, right?
Jeff
There is a line. There's a special shorter line to get in if you sit in the disabled section and you can get in faster.
Decker
I'm sure there is.
Jeff
All right, well, I think you've learned your lesson here. For the next time you take a woman out, it's two boots, two sets of crutches. That way you're not putting her in a weird position. Yeah, full body cast if you think about it. Yeah, there you go. Have somebody else wheel you with Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
Decker
All I know is what I've been told. And that to have truth is a whole lie.
Brooke
For almost a decade, the murder of an 18 year old girl from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky went unsolved until a local homemaker, a journalist and a handful of girls came forward with a story.
Decker
I'm telling you, we know Quincy killed her. We know.
Brooke
A story that law enforcement used to convict six people and that got the citizen investigator on national tv.
Jeff
Through sheer persistence and nerve, this Kentucky housewife helped give justice to Jessica Curran.
Brooke
My name is Maggie Freeling. I'm a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist producer, and I wouldn't be here if the truth were that easy to find.
Decker
I did not know her and I.
Jeff
Did not kill her or rape or.
Decker
Burn or any of that other stuff.
Jeff
That y' all said.
Brooke
They literally made me say that I took a match and struck and threw it on her. They made me say that I poured gas on her from Lava For Good. This is Graves County, a show about just how far our legal system will go in order to find someone to blame.
Decker
America, y' all better wake the hell up. Bad things happens to good people and small towns.
Brooke
Listen to Graves county in the Bone Valley feed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts and to binge the entire season ad free. Subscribe to Lava for Good plus on Apple Podcasts.
Decker
I'm Jonathan Goldstein, and on the new season of Heavyweight, I help a centenarian mend a broken heart. How can a 101-year-old woman fall in love again? And I help a man atone for an armed robbery he committed at 14 years old. And so I pointed the gun at.
Jeff
Him and said, this isn't a joke.
Decker
And he got down. And I remember feeling kind of a.
Brooke
Surge of like, okay, this is power.
Decker
Plus, my old friend Gregor and his brother try to solve my problems through hypnotism.
Jeff
We could give you a whole brand new thing where you're, like, super charming all the time, being more able to.
Decker
Look people in the eye, not always hide behind a microphone. Listen to heavyweight on the iHeartRadio app. App, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
Jeff
They say, out of great crisis comes great opportunity, Jeff. And already on the text line at 78592, somebody says they came up with a new business plan to buy concert tickets in the disabled section and upsell them the day of.
Brooke
That's being sarcastic, Jeff.
Jeff
Personally, I am horrified by it. I didn't even want to read that, but I did see Brooks reply. That said, if somebody does launch this, she wants 20% of the profits because it technically was her idea. Brooke, Savvy business. I like that about you.
Brooke
You know, you don't always have to side with our listener. Like, sometimes people cross the line so far that it's okay to say, sorry, buddy, it's not gonna work.
Jeff
Well, that's not very entertaining, is it? Somebody's gotta try and stand up for the bad things that people do. Yeah.
Brooke
At this point.
Jeff
At this point, I feel like the listeners need to try to break you, Jeff.
Decker
What can they get away with that.
Jeff
Jeff will not endure.
Brooke
I feel like that sentence is the hill you're going to die on.
Jeff
Yeah, well, that's my job. And at least that overall that was a pretty easy no that we got out of the whole conversation. But there's plenty of yeses out there. They're up in our second Date podcast. We've got hundreds of them and you can binge them all if you want to on Apple, Spotify, wherever you get your podcast, you'll find them at Brooke and Jeffrey.
Brooke
The murder of an 18 year old girl in Graves County, Kentucky went unsolved for years until a local housewife, a journalist and a handful of girls came forward with a story.
Decker
America, y' all better wake the hell up. Bad things happens to good people in small towns.
Brooke
Listen to Graves county on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts and to binge the entire season ad free. Subscribe to Lava for Good plus on Apple Podcasts.
Jeff
It's Anno Ortiz and I'm Mark and Delicato. You might know us as Hilda and Justin from Ugly Betty. Welcome to our new podcast. We're re watching the series from start, start to finish and getting into all the fashions, the drama and the behind.
Brooke
The scenes moments that you've never heard before.
Jeff
But you were still bartending. I didn't know that. The bar back is like, is that you and I turn around and it's a commercial for Betty.
Brooke
And I was like, I gotta go, I quit.
Jeff
Listen to Viva Betty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
Brooke
In early 1988, federal agents raced to track down the gang they suspect of importing millions of dollars worth of heroin into from Asia.
Jeff
Had 30 agents ready to go with.
Decker
Shotguns and rifles and you name it. Five, six white people pushed me in the car. I'm going, what the hell?
Jeff
Basically your stay at home moms were picking up these large amounts of heroin.
Decker
All you gotta do is receive the package. Don't have to open it, just accept it. She was very upset, crying. Once I saw the gun, I tried.
Brooke
To take his hand and I saw the flash of light. Listen to the Chinatown sting on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or anywhere you get your podcasts.
Jeff
What's up everybody? It's snacks from the trap nerds and all October long, we're bringing you the horror. Boogity, boogity, boogity. We kicking off this month with some of my best horror games to keep you terrified. Then we'll be talking about our favorite horror and Halloween movies and figuring out why black people always die first.
Decker
And it's the return of Tony's horror.
Jeff
Show side Quest, written and narrated by yours truly. We'll also be doing a full episode reading with commentary, and we'll cap it off with a horror movie battle royale. Open your free AHA Radio app and search Trap Nerds Podcast and listen Now.
Brooke
Do we really need another podcast with.
Jeff
A condescending finance bro trying to tell us how to spend our own money?
Brooke
No, thank you.
Jeff
Instead, check out Brown Ambition.
Brooke
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Episode: "No Concert For You"
Date: October 8, 2025
Host: iHeartPodcasts
Main Participants: Brooke, Jeffrey, Decker (listener), Kelsey (date)
In this episode of "Second Date Update," the hosts help a listener named Decker uncover the real reason why his date, Kelsey, ghosted him after what was supposed to be an exciting night at a Morgan Wallen concert. After Kelsey bailed at the last minute—claiming she was sick—Decker wants to get to the bottom of her disappearance and see if he can secure a second chance. The conversation quickly takes a wild turn, revealing some questionable choices on Decker’s part and bringing out lots of humor, awkwardness, and moral debate among the hosts.
This "Second Date Update" is an entertaining blend of cringe-worthy dating behavior and ethical debate. Decker's attempt to impress Kelsey with over-the-top gestures backfires spectacularly when his plan to abuse disabled seating is exposed. Kelsey's horror at being put in this position is met with widespread agreement from Brooke and Jeffrey, who use humor and righteous indignation to underscore the seriousness and absurdity of the situation. The episode ends with Decker continuing to justify himself and Kelsey drawing a hard line, making for a clear—and memorable—Second Date "No."