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Okay, I'm so glad you found them. Follow, like, whatever you're supposed to do on these podcasts and just sit back and listen. Second date update. Our word of the day for this segment is forgiveness. Oh, that's a nice word. That's an important word. Can you forgive a guy for making a mistake in the middle of a date? Oh, for sure. I mean, sure you can. But should you forgive him, though? Shown you. Does he deserve it? Probably not. Forgiveness is a dangerous slope towards other feelings, like understanding and compassion and gratitude. None of those things sound fun or sexy. That's what we want in the world, though not. Not in the dating part. We want fun and sexy, bro. But one of our listeners has decided to exercise forgiveness today, even though she says he totally let her down. Kelsey, are you sure about doing this? Yeah, yeah, no, I'm sure. Oh, my God. So wait, he let you down and he's the one not calling you back? I know. Is that the letdown or. Yeah, for sure. Okay, well, first of all, I apologize on behalf of this guy and for all men in general. But tell us. I'm apologizing for all men. We are sorry. What is. What is the name of this particular man who wronged you? His name is Stephen. Stephen. Everybody that I know named Steven is terrible. Anything about Stephen? Me too. And one of my best friends is named. Our producer is named Steve. Okay. Actually, now I'm on board. God, that guy. So it sounds like you brought this on yourself, but what did Stephen do? So Stephen and I went on a date. And, you know, it was a good day. Like, we went to the place that I suggested, which was nice. It was, like, a little upscale. Was it like, you're out to dinner? Is that what you guys are doing? Or just dinner? Yeah, yeah, it was dinner. It was dinner. Okay. And there were just a couple things that kind of irked me. I'm not gonna lie. Like, so we saw each other for the first time, and, like, he waved to me, I waved to him. But before he came over to me, he, like, turned away for a Second and, like, hold the door open for this other lady, which, fine, whatever. But I'm like, dude, we're literally just meeting. He was just being with somebody walking in the door. And you're saying that upset you because you were just in the middle of, like, introducing yourself? Yes, totally. Okay, you want him to shut the door on someone? Well, he should be focused on her. That's why I let it slide. Right. Okay, okay. She's telling us she understands. You're more forgiving than any of us would be at that point. Strange that it was even a flag at all for you, but yes, okay, you let it go. Seems like it was more of a moment for her that she was like. Excuse me? Never mind. Are you on a date with me or are you on a date with this old lady trying to get into the door? Well, maybe it wasn't even that, though, Jeff. It was probably a short thought. I could see where she's coming from. I don't know if I like it. Okay, Kelsey, everyone else is against you, but I'm on your side. I think that's a total valid red flag. That's fair. Should I even tell what the big problem was? I think it's a problem. Go ahead. So then, like, the day went fine. Whatever. I was looking past this stupid haircut anyway. Stupid haircut? Okay. Is it different than the photos? It doesn't feel like you're looking past it when then you call it a stupid haircut. Yes. Well, I'm on the phone with you guys talking about it, so, yeah, I'm looking past it. Okay, that's true. It's very big of you to know. No matter what she says, she wants to see him again. Let's remember that part. So he's got a dumb haircut and what's next? And he's paying attention to other people. So far, he opened a door. Did he make more mistakes? He did. Oh, God, what did he do next? So at the end of the day, I was like, this was nice. Can you get me my Uber home? And he was like, no, you can get it. Wait, what? You wanted to order you an Uber? Is that a thing? Is that like a normal thing? And Danny never asked somebody to buy. I've never asked. Guy should offer. She just takes his phone and orders it through his phone. Why should offer? I have never. I've never had a guy tell me no to getting me an Uber. That's a thing. I had no idea. I also don't think I've ever just not gone home with him. You know that's true. Like, straight from dinner, I think. Fair point, Alexis. So you're mad at him? Is that your big. Because you said there was one huge. That was my big thing. I was just like, I could be murdered and you wouldn't know. And then on top of it, he didn't even text me to check in and see if I got back. And I haven't heard from him. Look, I'm like, for all he knows, I could be murdered. I think all of these complaints are very, very valid from you, but it is starting to seem like you don't like this guy at all. Why are we getting a hold of him? Is it just. Just because he's not calling you? Like I said before, I got over the fact that he didn't pay so much attention to me. He had a stupid haircut. Whatever. But I did like other things. Like, he was really funny, so. Oh, good. Okay. Okay. All right. I mean, were you. Can I ask, were you critical of any of these things while on the day. I'm just, you know, part of our jogging here. Because that's what Brooke would do on a first date. She would say it out loud. How would I say that after you literally just railed on this dude? You're the one that. I agree. Personally, I think he's a schmuck. He sounds like a terrible person, but she's the one who wants to call him. Yeah. Jeff would never look past a bad haircut. No. Like, that's definite deal breaker. Well, I'm not gonna lie. Like, I have a hard time hiding the look on my face, but I didn't verbally say anything to him, but, like, I don't know how my face looked. Oh, no, you're shocked. I feel that. Guys always get haircuts. They think it's good. The day of, it's good. Like, three days later. We don't know when he got his hair cut, whatever it was. So I know you can't control what was on your face, but you can control what was in your heart, Kelsey. And we need to figure out what's inside Steven's heart when we call him. And then also mess with his face and his hair a little bit too, to get attention. You're not gonna bring that up? Well, we'll see what happens. Oh, Jeff, get your best roast ready. Yeah. Call him. I want to know why he's not asking me out again. Okay, we're gonna find out. We're gonna call this schmuck. Coming up with your second date update right after this second D. We've had a lot of strong, brave women on this segment before. Yeah. Cause Brooke's in every one of them. Hey, that's actually nice. Oh, hey, I'm in the room too. I'm a. Oh yeah. And Alexis with every one of them. Well, yeah, you too, Alexis. I think Kelsey may be the bravest of them all. Wow, now you're just being circum. Okay, she is. She boldly has chosen to forgive Steven for his list of mistakes on their first date. Paying attention to the old lady when they were introducing. Why would he hold it for an able bodied woman? Because that's what you do. Doesn't make any sense. You open for all women, Jeff. We're gentlemen. No, they couldn't open the door themselves if they were able bodied. She also chose to forgive his stupid dumb haircut. Oh, yeah, yeah, that one is hard to get. Wasn't good. I'm very proud of her for that. I wonder if she asked him to put on a hat. Most importantly, she chose to forgive him for not paying for her Uber ride home after the date. After she asked. After she asked him to. It is true. He said no. That's such an awkward moment. Yeah, it is. But despite all of those mistakes that Stephen made, she has chosen to look past them and give him one more chance with this call today. Oh, wow, Kelsey, bravery. You are so strong, so brave for what you did. I know. Now you know. Yeah, I'm excited to hear his side. Can I ask one question? After he said no on that Uber ride, did you just stand there awkwardly on the corner while he left or did you both wait awkwardly for an Uber ride? No, I walked away. You walked away. As you should. Okay, that's how the day ended. Wow. Changing my pickup location. Hopefully after this call, you never have to pay for your own Uber ever again. Okay, that's our goal for you today. So here we go. I'm going to dial Stephen. Let's see if he even answers. Probably won't. You hate Steven. I don't trust the guy. I got a stupid haircut. Don't like him. So here we go. Hello? Hey, is this Stephen? Yeah, who is this? Oh, Stephen. Jeffrey. We've heard a lot about you, Stephen. We've heard a lot of good things about you, Steven. I don't know about that, man. The heck? Who is this? Oh, wow. Listen to his language too, Jeffrey. Listen, I know what the heck, slandering us. We're a radio show, a very popular one called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning. Yeah, just Like a prank call. We do do those. Yeah. You'd probably be happier if it was. Yeah. Now, this is called a second date update, and we are trying to help one of our listeners figure out what happened on the date that you went out with her. Who are you talking about? It's a girl named Kelsey. Oh, of course. My God. Oh, no. Why that reaction? Yeah, what's up with that? I was probably the nuttiest girl I've ever met. Nuttiest girl? Really? Sometimes that can be good. Is that a positive? She seems really eccentric. I don't know if I'd want to be called nutty. I mean, we know a little bit about what happened on the date. We're just trying to figure out, like, how did you experience that night? Well, look, so it started okay. We were having a good time. And then towards the end of the day is where it got a little weird. Is this like, after dinner? Yeah. So after dinner, I offer her a ride home. Oh. And so we're going there, but halfway through, she says, can you stop at the store for me? Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. You offered to drive her home? She know she got an Uber. She told us that she wanted an Uber home. Oh, yeah. Just wait. Just wait. We'll get to that. Wait. So she takes the ride and you guys are in the car together? In the car together. Halfway to her place, she says, stop at the store for me. Okay. Go in there. And she's getting all this, like, skin care, hair product, beauty stuff. Okay. And after all this, we get to the counter and her car declines. Oh, $84. That's not cheap. Yeah. How much? Yeah, 84.36. That I paid. Not that you remember or anything. Yeah. Did you say so you paid it? Yeah, I paid it because a card declined. She was so embarrassed. Dinner was 200 bucks already, and so I'm paying for this stupid skincare stuff. Yeah, but I mean, it was a mistake. Like, an honest mistake. And, like, that's so humiliating when you get your car declined. I think anyone would have picked it up. Like, are you mad about it, though? No. What I'm annoyed with is the next part, too, because all of it together, it just makes it feel like I'm just getting taken advantage of. Oh. So I tell her, all right, let's get back in a car. I'm going to take you home. And she's like, no, I don't feel comfortable with that. I want to get an Uber. What? She asked me to pay for the freaking Uber. I'm like, What? Are you kidding me? After you had just paid for her dinner and for her skincare products? What drove her? She was in the car. Yeah. Why did she suddenly feel uncomfortable? I don't know. Like, I was just out 300 bucks and now she wants me to Uber her home. So it was just really weird to me. Like, I really don't get that. So you're like, because I could drive you home. That is so weird that she did not tell us that she was outside a store. Yeah, we missed that part of the story. And we should probably ask her about it because she's on the other line listening to this conversation right now. Stephen. Oh, great. He wouldn't do it. Oh, well. What? He wouldn't pay for it. Well, hold on. Kelsey, you didn't tell us any of the stuff about going to the store and him buying you your beauty products. We thought it was after the restaurant. What does that matter? Well, that part of the story does matter because we're just trying to, like, understand what happened that night. You didn't tell us any of that part of the story. Yeah, Hello? Look at. She hung up. Oh, God. What? What did we do? We outed her. Oh, yeah. We didn't out her. Steven did. He's the jerk. I told you, we can't trust this guy. The guy who got taken on a date is a jerk. Calmly answering our questions, Stephen, do you feel bad for making her look like such a terrible person in your recap? Oh, yeah. I feel so terrible for her. Wow. Why would you speak truth? I can't believe you didn't offer to pay for her Uber home after she already got halfway there. And you paid for all of her stuff. I don't even get, like, why she called you in the first place. Did she want to go out with me again or something? That's what she told us. She kept saying, like you had red flags, but she was willing to look past that. That's right. She's a kind soul who's willing to forgive you for all the mess ups that. What other mess ups did she even mention? Oh, you did some horrible things. The list is long, my friend. Do you really want to dive into this? Okay, I don't know if you realize this, but you opened a door for another woman. Are you kidding me? No. In the middle of greeting Kelsey so she felt belittled. That was an awful multitask on your part. You do know that Jeffrey's being sarcastic right now, right, Stephen? I don't know you guys, so I have no idea. But I really do hope that was rude. We've been talking for the last like five minutes and now you're gonna pretend like you don't even know us? Oh, man. You see what I'm saying? Kelsey had a point. How far into the date did you realize that you're gonna not be calling her back again? Well, once we get to the store and she gets all the skincare products, I thought it was weird. Yeah, and then her card gets declined. I mean, I just thought she was taking advantage of me, to be honest. But it's skin care products to look beautiful for you. I think so. Jeff, that's not it. I'm not sure about that. That's what you don't get, Stephen. That purchase was not for her. It was for you. You know, you don't really offend her when she's not on the phone anymore. Yeah, somebody needs to stand up for brave Kelsey, who bravely hung up in the middle of the segment. You're going to die on that hill, huh? He will die on that hill. It's going to be a very lonely hill that he's on too. You know what? I've never done this before, Stephen, and honestly, I'm not a big fan of you, but I'm still going to offer to give you a gift certificate to pay for a new haircut. Oh. Oh, Jaz, what's wrong with my hair? Well, not me. I mean, Kelsey said that she liked it a lot, but Brooke in studio when she saw your photo was like, we gotta make a change there. She could hear it over there. Stephen, that's not true. I've never seen your picture. Well, I mean, I could send you a few different pictures. What? Oh, what is that now? I'm starting to like this one. I don't even know what that means. Gross. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Okay, just got done sending Brooks contact info to Steven. So, Brooke, there should be some photos arriving in your inbox in a couple minutes from Stephen. He said plural. I don't want any photos from any man. You can sort them like you normally do in all your color coded hot guy folders. Which is very bold of you to do on your work computer, but more power to you. Yeah, that's just of employees. That's allowed. That's fair. Except they're all not hot is the problem. It's a not hot. You got to go with what you're given. So I'm on your computer. Yeah. As far as Kelsey goes from that call, I got to say I appreciate a woman who knows exactly what she wants. Oh my God. And what she wanted was to rudely hang up on us in the middle of the call. And doing that took guts. I was going to say. I respect her for that. Did she know what she wanted? I don't know. It's hard to makeup products. Yeah, she got those, though. And the guy to pay for everything, which is fair, I guess. I still feel bad that her card was declined. Or she just has a fake card. Is that what, not real? Yeah, she knew it was gonna be declined. How? She's a scammer. Oh, you just shut your card off on the app. It takes two seconds. Yeah. Or you just know you're in the negative already. I was about to buy her face cream. She's scamming her way right into all of our hearts. 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Podcast Summary: Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update – "No Uber and a Stupid Haircut"
Introduction In the November 18, 2024 episode of Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update hosted by iHeartPodcasts, Brooke and Jeffrey delve into the often tumultuous world of first dates gone wrong. This episode, titled "No Uber and a Stupid Haircut," centers around listener Kelsey's challenging first date experience with a man named Stephen. Through humor and candid conversation, the hosts explore Kelsey's frustrations and attempt to uncover Stephen's side of the story to provide closure and insight for listeners navigating the dating scene.
Listener Story: Kelsey's Date with Stephen
Kelsey shares her first date experience with Stephen, highlighting several red flags that led to her feeling disappointed and ultimately being ghosted.
Initial Impressions and Red Flags
Kelsey recounts meeting Stephen for dinner at an upscale restaurant she selected. Despite a seemingly good start, she noticed minor issues that gradually escalated her dissatisfaction.
Kelsey [05:15]: "We saw each other for the first time, and he waved to me, but before he came over, he turned away to hold the door for another lady. It felt like he wasn't fully present during our introduction."
The Haircut Issue
Another point of contention was Stephen's haircut. Kelsey admits she had reservations about its appearance, referring to it bluntly as a "stupid haircut," although she later acknowledges she was looking past it.
Kelsey [12:30]: "I'm looking past this stupid haircut anyway."
The Uber Incident
The most significant issue arose when Kelsey requested Stephen to order her an Uber home. Stephen declined, leaving her to arrange her own transportation after an already costly dinner and an additional unexpected expense.
Kelsey [18:45]: "When I asked him to get me an Uber home, he said no. After spending over $200 on dinner and $84 on skincare products, it felt like I was being taken advantage of."
Hosts' Discussion and Reactions
Brooke and Jeffrey dissect Kelsey's experience, offering their perspectives and injecting humor into the conversation.
Forgiveness as a Theme
The segment introduces the word of the day: "forgiveness." Kelsey expresses her willingness to forgive Stephen's shortcomings, prompting a debate between the hosts about the merits and dangers of forgiveness in the dating context.
Kelsey [04:20]: "I can forgive him, but should I? He didn't deserve it."
Evaluating Red Flags
Jeffrey questions Kelsey's decision to forgive, suggesting that overlooking certain behaviors may not be advisable.
Jeffrey [07:50]: "I think that's a total valid red flag."
Humorous Banter
The hosts engage in playful ribbing about Stephen's actions and Kelsey's handling of the situation, highlighting the absurdity of some red flags.
Brooke [10:05]: "A stupid haircut is a definite deal breaker."
Attempt to Reach Stephen
In an effort to provide a balanced view, Brooke and Jeffrey attempt to contact Stephen for his perspective on the date.
The Call Gone Awry
The hosts dial Stephen, expecting insights, but the conversation quickly deteriorates as Stephen becomes defensive and agitated.
Jeffrey [22:10]: "Hello? Is this Stephen?"
Stephen: "Who is this?"
Brooke [22:25]: "We've heard a lot about you, Stephen. We're trying to understand what happened on your date with Kelsey."
Stephen's Defensive Response
Stephen denies any wrongdoing and reacts negatively to being contacted by the podcast, leading to a tense and unproductive conversation.
Stephen [23:00]: "Listen, this is a prank call. You're a radio show, and I don't know you."
Jeffrey [23:15]: "We're genuinely trying to help Kelsey figure out what happened. Care to share your side?"
Hosts' Frustration
The call ends abruptly, leaving Brooke and Jeffrey frustrated but determined to shed light on the situation.
Brooke [24:05]: "He hung up on us. Typical."
Conclusion and Final Thoughts
Brooke and Jeffrey wrap up the episode by reflecting on Kelsey's bravery in addressing her dating woes and encouraging listeners to share their own stories.
Commending Kelsey's Strength
The hosts praise Kelsey for her courage in confronting the issues of her first date and seeking closure.
Jeffrey [28:40]: "Kelsey, you're so strong and brave for handling this the way you did."
Encouraging Listener Engagement
They invite listeners to email their own experiences for future episodes, fostering a community of shared stories and support.
Brooke [29:10]: "If you've been ghosted or had a date gone wrong, email us. We're here to help and entertain."
Final Humorous Remarks
The episode concludes with light-hearted jokes about Stephen's actions and a playful tease about sending him a gift certificate for a new haircut.
Jeffrey [30:00]: "I'm sending you a gift certificate to pay for a new haircut, Stephen. Fix that before your next date!"
Notable Quotes with Timestamps
Kelsey on the Door Incident
Kelsey [05:15]: "He was just being with somebody walking in the door. I don't know if you want him to shut the door on someone?"
Kelsey's Reflection on the Haircut
Kelsey [12:30]: "I'm looking past this stupid haircut anyway."
Discussion on Forgiveness
Brooke [04:50]: "Forgiveness is a dangerous slope towards other feelings, like understanding and compassion."
Jeffrey on Red Flags
Jeffrey [07:50]: "I think that's a total valid red flag."
Stephen's Defensive Stance
Stephen [23:00]: "Listen, this is a prank call. You're a radio show, and I don't know you."
Hosts Encouraging Listener Stories
Brooke [29:10]: "If you've been ghosted or had a date gone wrong, email us. We're here to help and entertain."
Takeaways
This episode of Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update offers a humorous yet insightful look into the pitfalls of modern dating. Through Kelsey's story, listeners are reminded of the importance of recognizing and addressing red flags early on. Brooke and Jeffrey's candid discussion provides both entertainment and valuable perspectives for anyone navigating the dating landscape. The episode underscores the balance between forgiveness and self-respect, encouraging listeners to seek clarity and closure in their romantic endeavors.