Second Date Update: Numbers Don't Lie But You Should

Summary

Podcast Summary: Brooke and Jeffrey – Second Date Update: "Numbers Don't Lie But You Should"

Original Air Date: October 17, 2025
Podcast: Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Host(s): Brooke, Jeffrey, Co-host(s)
Episode Theme: A promising first date derailed by unexpected circumstances ends in playful intimacy—but a poorly timed joke about rankings lands the couple in unintended confusion, leading to a heartfelt and humorous intervention by the hosts.

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Main Theme & Purpose

This episode of "Second Date Update" investigates why Sierra, after what seemed to be a fantastic and intimate first date with Ashwin, found herself ghosted. The show seeks to get Ashwin’s side of the story, unravel miscommunications, and (hopefully) reunite the duo for a second date. The episode highlights the delicate dance of post-date communication and how humor and vulnerability can both make and break a budding romance.

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Segment Breakdown & Key Discussion Points

1. Listener Intro & Date Setup (02:54–06:26)

• Hosts read a listener comment as a light-hearted warm-up, congratulating a dog on new puppies.

• Sierra calls in and recounts how she met Ashwin on a dating app and was particularly charmed by his humor and playful, but respectful, flirting style.

  • Brooke: “He sounds fancy and rich. His name is Ashwin.” (05:05)

• Original Date Plan: Ashwin had made reservations at a trendy rooftop bar, signaling he aimed to impress.

  • Sierra: “He was kind of trying to impress me, which obviously is fine with me...” (06:13)

2. The Date Goes Off Script (06:31–08:03)

• Venue mix-up: The rooftop bar is closed for a cryptocurrency event ("a pod of crypto bros"), leaving the couple stranded.

  • Jeffrey (jokingly): “Crypto event, this happens all the time.” (10:36)

• Sierra pivots: They stroll and end up at an old, unpretentious diner.

  • Sierra: “We just ended up at this old… diner. Like… it looked like it had been there for like 70 years.” (07:29)
  • Sierra: “It was kind of perfect. We were sitting there eating cheese fries and drinking milkshakes in our formal clothes… we ended up having just the greatest, most real conversation.” (08:12)

3. Sparks Fly, Then Sudden Silence (08:40–12:14)

• Intimate turn: After hours of authentic conversation, Sierra and Ashwin end up back at his place, spending the night together.

  • Sierra: “Apparently, I didn’t leave till the next morning, in fact, which is unusual for me.” (09:07)
  • Brooke: “He kissed her on the nose, for goodness' sake… that’s a ‘I really like you’ move.” (11:29)

• Confusion: Despite positive post-date vibes, Ashwin pulls back, texting less and less.

  • Sierra: “I got the vibes that he was not interested.” (11:47–11:55)

4. The Confrontation: Calling Ashwin (12:14–18:36)

• Ashwin takes the call, hesitant but open.

  • Ashwin: “It was probably one of the most amazing dates I’ve ever been on.” (13:44)

• Revelation: The rift came after a post-coital conversation about sexual "ranking." Sierra jokingly asked where she "ranks" with Ashwin, prompting an awkward exchange:

  • Ashwin: “She said, ‘Well, I’m sure you’ve been with X amount of people.’” (15:06)
  • Ashwin: “I told her, ‘Top three for sure.’”
  • When Ashwin asks for her ranking, Sierra jokes he’s “top five out of five.”
  • Ashwin: “It felt a little humiliating, honestly… I already felt so vulnerable. We’re in my bed naked, and we’ve just been together.” (16:32–16:48)

• Escalation: The misunderstanding festered, leading Ashwin to withdraw out of embarrassment.

5. The Resolution: Honest Communication & Humor (17:08–19:58)

• Sierra apologizes: Upon hearing how her joke landed, she expresses sincere regret.

  • Sierra: “Ashwin, I’m so, so sorry. I can’t believe I made you feel that way.” (17:28)

• Ashwin accepts: The group laughs it off as Sierra clarifies she was just being playful, and Ashwin admits he’s perhaps a bit sensitive about such topics.

  • Ashwin: “Her explanation definitely, definitely makes me feel better and embarrassed that I can’t take jokes about bedtime.” (19:42)

• Second date secured: With the air cleared, both agree to try again, ending the main story on a high note.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the crypto debacle:

  • Jeffrey: “The entire venue had been rented out by a bunch of crypto nerds geeking out over yield farms and stabilizing their coin pools.” (10:44)

• On shifting expectations:

  • Brooke: “Such a good sign for anyone if you can be anywhere with someone and still have a good time.” (08:31)

• Vulnerability and humor:

  • Ashwin: “I already felt so vulnerable. We’re in my bed naked, and we’ve just been together.” (16:48)
  • Sierra: “I was trying to be playful. I was trying to make a joke.” (18:37)

• Brooke on constructive criticism:

  • Brooke: “Do not interrupt that statement, Jeffrey. Not enough men make it. You should assume you didn’t [do enough foreplay].” (18:22)

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Key Timestamps for Important Segments

• Listener intro and start: 02:54
• Sierra describes the date and sudden change of plans: 05:54–08:12
• Intimate turn and morning after: 08:52–09:19
• Initial perplexed reaction about ghosting: 11:24–12:14
• Ashwin joins the show, reveals awkward 'ranking' exchange: 13:44–16:48
• Sierra’s apology, clarification, and realignment: 17:08–19:58
• Hosts discuss lessons learned: 22:00–23:10

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Tone & Style

The episode is playful, candid, and peppered with good-natured ribbing between the hosts (especially around the “crypto bros” event and romantic/awkward moments). Both Sierra and Ashwin are portrayed as genuine and vulnerable, with hosts guiding them toward honest communication, while still keeping things light.

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Final Thoughts

“Numbers Don’t Lie But You Should” stands out as a lighthearted, relatable misadventure in modern dating, highlighting how jokes and insecurity can snowball into unnecessary misunderstandings, but also how open communication and humility can quickly set things right. Both Sierra and Ashwin own up to their awkwardness—and by the end, land another shot at love.

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Key Takeaway:
Don’t ask “where do I rank?” after the first overnight—or if you do, make sure your humor lands! “Constructive feedback” is only welcome if you’re both in on the joke.

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For more Second Date Updates, find “Brooke and Jeffrey” on iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts, or Spotify.

Transcript

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[Ashwin]

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[Jeffrey]

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[Ed Helms]

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[Brooke]

Hey, it's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Welcome to your brand new second date podcast. And we got one for you today. And we love that you're here. Thank you so much for subscribing and sticking along with us. In fact, we love your comments so much, we always like to start the show by reading one. We do. And Terry Fowler from Reno, Nevada said, I've been listening for two years now. Daily listener. I just wanted to say, my dog Leah just had nine puppies this morning.

[Sierra]

I'm so grateful.

[Co-host/Panelist (possibly Alexis or another co-host)]

Name one after one of the members of the show.

[Brooke]

Oh, my gosh, puppy. You could do everybody on the show.

[Jeffrey]

You could.

[Co-host/Panelist (possibly Alexis or another co-host)]

Yeah, but you don't want to waste, like, all those names. Oh, you just choose one.

[Brooke]

You just want Jose 1, Jose 2, Jose 3, Jose 4.

[Co-host/Panelist (possibly Alexis or another co-host)]

I just mean, literally no one wants to name our whole show.

[Brooke]

It's eight of us.

[Co-host/Panelist (possibly Alexis or another co-host)]

That gives him one.

[Ashwin]

Hey, that.

[Brooke]

Congratulations on being a new. Would that be a doggy grandma? Is that how that works?

[Jeffrey]

Oh, yeah.

[Brooke]

You know, Baby had a baby, huh?

[Ashwin]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

Well, we love it, I guess. Yeah. And hey, hope all the little puppies enjoy this episode of your second date podcast. Yeah. It starts right now.

[Jeffrey]

Second D update. When your date plans change at the very last second, not by your choice, but because of, like, an unforeseen obstacle with the venue.

[Sierra]

Okay.

[Jeffrey]

Like, the baseball game got rained out.

[Co-host/Panelist (possibly Alexis or another co-host)]

Oh, yeah. You can't control that.

[Jeffrey]

The KFC ran out of chicken.

[Co-host/Panelist (possibly Alexis or another co-host)]

That doesn't happen.

[Jeffrey]

What's your move? Like, how do you respond? You could instantly give up right there and say, no, I'm not doing this. I'll FaceTime you from my bubble bath. But I don't pivot on the fly.

[Brooke]

Yeah. Be flexible, Jeff. Be spontaneous.

[Jeffrey]

That is the other option. Shake it up. Do something new. And apparently that's what one of our listeners, Sierra, had to do recently on her date. And I'm curious what that looked like. So, Sierra, welcome to the show.

[Ed Helms]

Hi.

[Brooke]

You sound like a go with the flow type of person.

[Sierra]

I try.

[Co-host/Panelist (possibly Alexis or another co-host)]

Sound like a baseball in the rain kind of lady.

[Brooke]

Yeah, that's good.

[Jeffrey]

Sorry to hear that your date plans crash, but tell us what happened.

[Sierra]

So I met this guy Ashwin on a dating app.

[Brooke]

Oh, he sounds fancy and rich. His name is Ashwin.

[Co-host/Panelist (possibly Alexis or another co-host)]

It's so fancy, I don't even know.

[Jeffrey]

How to spell that.

[Brooke]

Yes.

[Sierra]

Not gonna lie, the name intrigued me. But what I really liked the most was he was funny. Which is so important. But he was also playful. Like, he was kind of saucy, but not disrespectful.

[Brooke]

You know what I mean?

[Co-host/Panelist (possibly Alexis or another co-host)]

Rosy a little bit, but, like, totally joking.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, it's like talking to your grandpa, but 60 years ago.

[Co-host/Panelist (possibly Alexis or another co-host)]

No, Jeff, not at all. No one erased that.

[Jeffrey]

Everybody has a grumpy grandpa who likes to poke fun at them, right?

[Brooke]

Grumpy? Yes. It's like, he's not an old man.

[Co-host/Panelist (possibly Alexis or another co-host)]

He's playful, flirty.

[Jeffrey]

His name is Ashwin. He sounds like a grandpa.

[Brooke]

Okay, you got us there, Jeff. But the rest of us, you lost us on.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, well, we all have different images of what Ashwin is, but what was the plan for the date?

[Sierra]

Well, you know, I'm happy to say that wasn't my first impression. I liked him. I liked him enough to say yes to a date with him. And I think that he was kind of trying to impress me, which obviously is fine with me. Like, he had made rooftop bar reservations at this, like, trendy place.

[Co-host/Panelist (possibly Alexis or another co-host)]

Oh, rooftop bars are always good.

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Panelist (possibly Alexis or another co-host)]

You've never been to a rooftop bar. That's, like, not cool.

[Brooke]

It's true.

[Co-host/Panelist (possibly Alexis or another co-host)]

It's on a roof.

[Brooke]

I don't know why?

[Sierra]

You know what I mean?

[Brooke]

Like, you put them in a basement. Not awesome. Yeah, that's a dive bar, but on a roof.

[Co-host/Panelist (possibly Alexis or another co-host)]

So cool.

[Brooke]

It means something.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah. Okay, so you sound like you're excited to get some rooftop drinks.

[Sierra]

Oh, I was so excited. I love this kind of thing. And he seemed exactly like his profile. He was super cute, super nice, funny. Everything that I was hoping. We go up the elevator and the guy at the door said he was so sorry, but the whole place was closed for, like, some kind of a cryptocurrency event.

[Brooke]

Oh, God.

[Jeffrey]

I'm sorry.

[Ed Helms]

Brooke.

[Co-host/Panelist (possibly Alexis or another co-host)]

Brooke isn't mad. They're closed. It's the crypto thing.

[Brooke]

Yeah, I know.

[Sierra]

I was so mad at the people.

[Jeffrey]

Who could afford to rent out an entire rooftop.

[Brooke]

Picture a bunch of dudes with receding hairlines.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Panelist (possibly Alexis or another co-host)]

Telling each other the same thing in puffer vests. Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

Careful, you're turning Alexis on, too.

[Brooke]

Even I draw the line.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, no, but that. What a bummer. Your whole plan for the night just got totally ruined.

[Sierra]

Yeah, I mean, it was really disappointing. And I could see that Ashwin looked so disappointed. Like, you know, totally.

[Ashwin]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Panelist (possibly Alexis or another co-host)]

That shows you he was excited for the day, too.

[Jeffrey]

So what did you do?

[Sierra]

So I just said, screw it. Let's take a walk. I'm not wearing the greatest shoes for it, but I just really Wanted to spend time with him at that point. So we walked down the street and we walked and talked for a while, and we just kind of ended up at this old. Like, it was just like a diner. Like a normal. You know, it wasn't like a cute, like, oh, we're trying to be retro diner. It looked like it had just been there for, like, 70 years.

[Co-host/Panelist (possibly Alexis or another co-host)]

You went from, like, Nobu to the Waffle House.

[Brooke]

Yeah, the grease trap hasn't been cleaned in at least two years.

[Co-host/Panelist (possibly Alexis or another co-host)]

But that's what.

[Johnny Knoxville]

The food tastes so good.

[Sierra]

Yeah, but that's what makes the fries taste so good.

[Brooke]

Yeah. Okay.

[Jeffrey]

We're putting a lot of emphasis on, like, the location of the date, but what about the bond, the connection between you and Ashwin? Did that change once you ended up at the crappy diner?

[Sierra]

No, I mean, it was. Honestly, it was kind of perfect. Like, we were sitting there eating cheese fries and drinking milkshakes and in our formal clothes and just talking, you know, and probably because the plans had changed and we were thrown in this situation, we ended up having just the greatest, most real conversation.

[Brooke]

That's awesome. Such a good sign for anyone if you can be anywhere with someone and still have a good time. That means that you actually have a real connection. Yes.

[Sierra]

And after our plans fell through, you know, like, it just felt so good. It felt so comfortable talking to him. We talked for hours.

[Brooke]

Oh, my gosh. How could he not be calling you?

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, I mean, how did this night end?

[Sierra]

Well, okay, so one thing led to another. He kissed me good night, and I did, of course, end up at his place.

[Jeffrey]

Really? Post chili ch. Peas, fries. You guys went back to his place?

[Sierra]

Hey, I'm telling you, I felt very comfortable with him. And I. Apparently, I didn't leave till the next morning, in fact, which is unusual for me. But.

[Brooke]

What did he say? Was he there when you woke up?

[Sierra]

Yeah. No, he was just his sweet, playful self. He gave me a little kiss on the nose, which I thought was adorable. And.

[Brooke]

Okay, so it wasn't even awkward the next morning?

[Sierra]

No, not at all.

[Jeffrey]

It makes me wonder if it was like one of those typical guy things where it wasn't enough of a challenge and it became too easy. The guy gets bored.

[Brooke]

He doesn't sound like a guy that is like that, though. Jeff, this sounds like they never do. Brooke.

[Jeffrey]

They're always the prince charming until they ghost you.

[Brooke]

It sounds like they were just vibing on a deeper level than that. If he just wanted to get in her pants and that's all he wanted or he was disappointed in that. They could have gone anywhere and just gone and drank and then gone back to her place.

[Jeffrey]

That sounds exactly like what they did.

[Brooke]

They went to a diner, they talked for hours. They walked the city. Like, that is a totally different thing.

[Jeffrey]

Maybe he knew that crypto event was happening and this was all set up as, like, a little ruse. Be like, look at me. Look how spontaneous I could be. Let's go back to my place.

[Brooke]

You are so cynical against men right now.

[Jeffrey]

I'm just telling you this. I've heard guys do stuff like this and sometimes even worse.

[Brooke]

I know. I still want to thank for the best. Jeff. I'm sorry.

[Jeffrey]

All right, well, you can be naive if you want, but let's call Ashwin and we'll see what he has to say.

[Sierra]

Thank you, guys.

[Jeffrey]

Your second date update, right after this. Hold on. Second date update?

[Ed Helms]

Wow.

[Jeffrey]

Another first date blown up by a pod of crypto bros.

[Co-host/Panelist (possibly Alexis or another co-host)]

This happens all the time.

[Jeffrey]

Every single week, we deal with this. Cause our listener Sierra was supposed to meet a guy named Ashwin at a rooftop bar. But of course, when they arrived, the entire venue had been rented out by a bunch of crypto nerds geeking out over yield farms and stabilizing their coin pools.

[Brooke]

Oh, God.

[Jeffrey]

Whatever they like to talk about, bro.

[Co-host/Panelist (possibly Alexis or another co-host)]

Look at these candlesticks popping. Sorry, we're doing a little training.

[Jeffrey]

Don't even know what that means, but it disgusts me.

[Brooke]

God, no wonder I don't enjoy any of it.

[Jeffrey]

Here's the thing. Sierra and Ashwin didn't let that kill their night. They actually swung it into a really fun evening at a local diner, which eventually led into a sleepover. Really good.

[Brooke]

It sounds so sweet.

[Ed Helms]

It did.

[Jeffrey]

Until Ashwin is suddenly not calling her back.

[Brooke]

Dude, he kissed her on the nose, for goodness sake. Break. Like that is. Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

Is that a romantic move?

[Brooke]

It is absolutely. Like, that's a I really like you move.

[Sierra]

Is there another way to read that?

[Brooke]

See?

[Ed Helms]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

It's so sweet. And you've reached out to him, or you haven't. You're just waiting to hear from him.

[Sierra]

This was what was so weird. We texted a little bit after that. Like, he just. I. I got the vibes that he was not interested.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, even through texts?

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Panelist (possibly Alexis or another co-host)]

You can feel that energy shift for sure.

[Brooke]

I hope it's one of those where he's just scared of real love.

[Co-host/Panelist (possibly Alexis or another co-host)]

Yeah, no, that sounds stupid, but sometimes, like you had said, oh, there's no challenge. Like, if it's too easy and everything is great, sometimes people don't like to be in that space. I don't know.

[Jeffrey]

We'll see which category Ashwin falls into if we're able to get him on the phone here. I'm gonna dial his number right now.

[Co-host/Panelist (possibly Alexis or another co-host)]

Two perfect categories.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, we're praying for a Disney ending. Here we go.

[Brooke]

Getting her another nose kiss. Jeff, through the phone. That's what a promise.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, here we go.

[Ashwin]

Hello?

[Jeffrey]

Hey, is this Ashwin?

[Ashwin]

Yes.

[Jeffrey]

Hey, man. Thanks for answering. You're on a radio show right now. It's called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning.

[Co-host/Panelist (possibly Alexis or another co-host)]

Hey, good morning.

[Brooke]

Welcome to the show, Ashwin.

[Ashwin]

Hi.

[Brooke]

Sounds like you might be busy or something right now.

[Ed Helms]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

I hope you have a second to talk to us because we're doing a segment called A Second date Update.

[Ashwin]

Sure. This is weird. Okay. Yeah.

[Brooke]

Good job. He's nice.

[Jeffrey]

Give him a lot of credit. So the reason that we're calling is because you went out on a date recently with a listener to our show, a woman named Sierra.

[Ashwin]

Oh. Oh, yeah.

[Brooke]

You mean.

[Co-host/Panelist (possibly Alexis or another co-host)]

Oh, sure.

[Brooke]

Yeah. He lost the nice.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah. So here's the thing. Sierra, we talked to her, and she told us about your hang the other night.

[Brooke]

The diner sounded so cute.

[Jeffrey]

It sounded pretty good. Despite all the obstacles that came up, you two were able to have a really good thing. Would you agree with that?

[Ashwin]

I mean, we. We. We did. It was probably one of the most amazing dates I've. I've ever been on.

[Co-host/Panelist (possibly Alexis or another co-host)]

What the heck, bro? Why aren't you calling her? We're all over here waiting to find, like, some crazy reason.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

That's so sweet.

[Jeffrey]

Sorry to be so emotional about it, but it's just that, you know, Sierra's really confused.

[Ashwin]

It's just kind of embarrassing.

[Jeffrey]

For you or for Sierra?

[Ashwin]

For me.

[Brooke]

All right, well, I mean, if it's too much to share, you should do.

[Co-host/Panelist (possibly Alexis or another co-host)]

It anyway because we could really use the content.

[Brooke]

I don't want to pressure anybody, you know, and.

[Jeffrey]

But Sierra really deserves to know when she say.

[Ashwin]

Yeah, yeah, no, she is. She's really awesome. This is mostly. Mostly a me a me thing.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, well, if you're willing to open up to us just even a little bit, and we could pass the message to her, I think that would go a long way.

[Ashwin]

We had this amazing, amazing night, and she told me that she doesn't do this a lot where she goes to a guy's place, and that she was curious where she ranks.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, where she what?

[Brooke]

Ranks.

[Sierra]

Ranks.

[Jeffrey]

Where she ranks, like, compared to other people.

[Ashwin]

Yeah, I was very thrown off by that question.

[Brooke]

Is it a joke? You had to have an idea.

[Ashwin]

It was not a joke because I asked her to clarify. I said, what do you mean? Yeah. And she said, well, I'm sure you've been with X amount of people.

[Brooke]

Well, that's kind of a rude assumption. Yeah. But you know what? Or it's a testament to your experience that you had. You could take it as a compliment.

[Ed Helms]

What?

[Jeffrey]

Did you. I mean, did you actually rank her?

[Brooke]

God, no.

[Ashwin]

Well, I. I told her that. I'm not sure how to answer that.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, that's good.

[Ashwin]

And eventually I said, top three for sure.

[Brooke]

Oh, that's cute. That's a good, safe answer.

[Jeffrey]

Like what?

[Co-host/Panelist (possibly Alexis or another co-host)]

Only top three.

[Brooke]

I take top three.

[Ed Helms]

That's great.

[Jeffrey]

And you don't want to number one, because then you're too eager.

[Brooke]

And I don't believe it if you say number one.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, I've seen myself. I know. I'm not that good.

[Ashwin]

But then I told her, since I answered this for you, you have to reciprocate.

[Brooke]

Why would you do that? You don't want that.

[Jeffrey]

She asked it to him.

[Brooke]

Oh, God.

[Jeffrey]

What did she say?

[Ashwin]

She said, you're definitely in my top five.

[Brooke]

Okay. Okay.

[Sierra]

Not bad.

[Jeffrey]

She, like, a little bit lower than.

[Ashwin]

What you ranked her, but, yeah, it gets worse. I asked out of how many?

[Brooke]

No.

[Ashwin]

And she said maybe five.

[Co-host/Panelist (possibly Alexis or another co-host)]

Oh, wait, five out of five?

[Jeffrey]

Top five out of five. So you're in the top hundred percent.

[Brooke]

That changed everything for you? Okay, I assume because it just changed everything for me.

[Jeffrey]

What did you assume?

[Ashwin]

It just kind of felt. It felt a little humiliating, honestly.

[Brooke]

Did you tell. Did you laugh or did you say, okay, that's rude?

[Ashwin]

I didn't really know what to say because I already felt so vulnerable. You know, we're in my bed naked, and we've just been together.

[Jeffrey]

Okay.

[Brooke]

Okay. It's like getting a participation trophy.

[Co-host/Panelist (possibly Alexis or another co-host)]

Hold on, let me try again then.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, well, you know, maybe. Maybe there was some sort of miscommunication or she didn't say quite what she meant. And I'll give her a chance to explain herself right here because I need to let you know Sierra is on the other line of this call, listening, wanting to talk.

[Ashwin]

Oh, God. Oh, God.

[Brooke]

She's the one that should be embarrassed.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah.

[Sierra]

Ashwin, hi.

[Co-host/Panelist (possibly Alexis or another co-host)]

Please tell us five is like the number one ring. Like, it's the best.

[Brooke]

Oh, yeah. You were going backwards.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Panelist (possibly Alexis or another co-host)]

She's like, I can't lie.

[Jeffrey]

We tried to save you.

[Sierra]

I feel so mad. First of all, Ashwin, I'm so, so sorry. I can't believe I made you Feel that way. And you've been feeling that way this whole time.

[Co-host/Panelist (possibly Alexis or another co-host)]

That's a great apology.

[Brooke]

Does that feel good, Ashwin?

[Co-host/Panelist (possibly Alexis or another co-host)]

She acknowledged she did something wrong.

[Ashwin]

Feels bad. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you.

[Brooke]

Hey, guys. We're mending a little. Hey.

[Jeffrey]

I mean, you're still top five, Jeff.

[Co-host/Panelist (possibly Alexis or another co-host)]

Yeah, can we address that?

[Sierra]

Is it okay if I explain a little bit?

[Jeffrey]

Please, yes. Go into details about why he's winning?

[Brooke]

No, just literally explain yourself. You know what? Men that can take constructive criticism is not a bad thing. What did one through four have that he got?

[Jeffrey]

There's just one thing he could do better.

[Co-host/Panelist (possibly Alexis or another co-host)]

Better.

[Jeffrey]

Let's work on one step at a time.

[Ashwin]

And if for some reason I didn't do enough foreplay stuff, I'm open to. I'm open to feedback.

[Brooke]

Do not interrupt that statement, Jeffrey. Not enough men make it. You should assume you didn't.

[Jeffrey]

Wow.

[Brooke]

Okay.

[Jeffrey]

Well, you know, actually, maybe we shouldn't be asking what he could change. Maybe it's better to ask you, Sierra, why you said that to him.

[Co-host/Panelist (possibly Alexis or another co-host)]

Yes.

[Brooke]

Yes.

[Sierra]

When I said, oh, you're definitely in the top five of five, I was trying to be playful. I was trying to make a joke. I was trying to be kind of cocky and flirty.

[Co-host/Panelist (possibly Alexis or another co-host)]

You were kidding.

[Sierra]

Yes, I was kidding, and I'm so sorry.

[Brooke]

Why did you leave with that?

[Co-host/Panelist (possibly Alexis or another co-host)]

Yeah, it was a joke, dude.

[Brooke]

Don't we have a laughter sound button or something we could have hit there?

[Sierra]

Yeah, he's definitely top four for sure. Let's just put it.

[Brooke]

Wait, that's a joke too, right?

[Co-host/Panelist (possibly Alexis or another co-host)]

I think so.

[Brooke]

It doesn't matter. It's better.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah. Still climbing the rainbows there, bud. You didn't have to do anything. That was great.

[Ashwin]

Can we. Can we please stop talking about what number I'm ranking?

[Jeffrey]

Okay, fair. All right.

[Sierra]

Yes. I'm so sorry. I'm just so embarrassed. I was trying to make a joke. It didn't land.

[Brooke]

You definitely have said your apology.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, you said that a lot. And I think Ashlyn gets the idea that you didn't mean it. But we mean this when we say we'd like to send you out on another date, the two of you. Ashwin, if you're willing to give her one more chance, we would pay for it.

[Brooke]

Don't let your pride stand in the way of this one, Ashwin.

[Ashwin]

Yeah, no, her explanation definitely, definitely makes me feel better and embarrassed that I can't take jokes about bedtime.

[Brooke]

Bedtime.

[Ashwin]

But, yeah, no, I definitely would be interested in another date.

[Brooke]

Oh, that's cute.

[Jeffrey]

All right, so Congratulations. That means Ciara. You got what you came for. Another date with Ashwin.

[Sierra]

Thank you so, so, so, so much.

[Brooke]

Oh my God. Do feel like we just had two listeners who own their own mistakes, which was just wild on this show. Yeah, that never happens. This means tomorrow's gonna be really bad on the show.

[Jeffrey]

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[Ed Helms]

Hey, it's Ed Helms. And welcome back to Snafu, my podcast about history's greatest screw ups. On our new season, we're bringing you a new snafu every single episode.

[Brooke]

32 lost nuclear weapons. You're like, wait, stop. What?

[Jeffrey]

Ernie Shackleton sounds like a solid 70s.

[Ed Helms]

Basketball player who still wore knee pads.

[Co-host/Panelist (possibly Alexis or another co-host)]

Yes.

[Ed Helms]

It's gonna be a whole lot of history, a whole lot of funny, and a whole lot of guests. The great Paul Scheer made me feel good. I'm like, oh, wow, Angela and Jenna, I am so psyched you're here.

[Brooke]

What was that like for you to soft launch into the show?

[Ed Helms]

Sorry, Jenna, I'll be asking the questions today.

[Brooke]

I forgot whose podcast we were doing.

[Ed Helms]

Nick Kroll. I hope this story is good enough to get you to toss that sandwich.

[Jeffrey]

So let's see how it goes.

[Ed Helms]

Listen to season four of SNAFU with Ed Helms on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast tests.

[Jeffrey]

Can we all agree where do I rank Is a question that should not come up until at least date number three.

[Brooke]

No, Jeff, never.

[Co-host/Panelist (possibly Alexis or another co-host)]

At least let him tell you.

[Brooke]

You just don't ever, ever.

[Jeffrey]

You've never had that conversation with your husband?

[Brooke]

God, no. With your husband? Why would you have that conversation?

[Co-host/Panelist (possibly Alexis or another co-host)]

You just let someone tell you that was the best. That was great. Or you just don't bring it up.

[Brooke]

Terrible conversation to have. If she was joking, it's a funny joke. Yeah, that's true.

[Jeffrey]

It's a good joke.

[Co-host/Panelist (possibly Alexis or another co-host)]

That was actually really good.

[Jeffrey]

I don't know if she really was joking. It was the right thing to say in that moment in order to say it.

[Brooke]

Well, finally. Finally the right thing to say.

[Jeffrey]

Exactly. And I fully expect to hear from both of them when we do an update.

[Brooke]

I think they're so cute.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, we're hopefully by then he's climbed the rankings into her top three and then.

[Co-host/Panelist (possibly Alexis or another co-host)]

But wait, she hasn't added like 10 more?

[Brooke]

Well, well, I'm learning for him. We don't know what type of relationship they're going to be in.

[Jeffrey]

Right.

[Co-host/Panelist (possibly Alexis or another co-host)]

That's also tr.

[Jeffrey]

I can say we are open to our listeners ranking us on our podcast. I hope we're in the top five.

[Brooke]

Don't compare us to your others. Okay.

[Jeffrey]

Or top ten. We'll take top 30 even.

[Brooke]

Really?

[Jeffrey]

As long as we're ahead of JLD, then we are a big win in our books.

[Co-host/Panelist (possibly Alexis or another co-host)]

Dude, just lie and say we don't.

[Jeffrey]

Even have a list.

[Co-host/Panelist (possibly Alexis or another co-host)]

Yeah, we're new to all this. We've never done this before.

[Jeffrey]

Go and find us wherever you get your podcast. We're up at Brooke and Jeffrey.

[Johnny Knoxville]

Johnny Knoxville here. Check out Crimeless Hillbilly Heist, my new true crime podcast from Smartless Media, Campside media and big money players. It's the true story of the almost perfect crime and the nimrods who almost pulled it off. It was kind of like the perfect.

[Jeffrey]

Storm in a sewer. That was dumb. Do not follow my example.

[Johnny Knoxville]

Listen to Crimeless Hillbilly Heist on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Ed Helms]

Hey, it's Ed Helms, host of Snafu, my podcast about history's greatest screw ups. On our new season, we're bringing you a new Snafu Every single episode.

[Brooke]

32 lost nuclear weapons. You're like, wait, stop what?

[Ed Helms]

It's gonna be a whole lot of history, a whole lot of funny, and a whole lot of fabulous guests. Paul Scheer, Angela and Jenna, Nick Kroll, Jordan Klepper. Listen to season four of SNAFU with Ed Helms on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Narrator (Hell in Heaven Podcast)]

Two rich young Americans move to the Costa Rican jungle to start over. But one of them will end up dead and the other tried for murder three times. It starts with a dream, a nature reserve and a spectacular new home. But little by little, they lose it.

[Ashwin]

They actually lose it.

[Jeffrey]

They sort of went nuts.

[Narrator (Hell in Heaven Podcast)]

Until one night, everything spins out of control. Listen to Hell in Heaven on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.

[Narrator (Graves County Podcast)]

The murder of an 18 year old girl in Graves County, Kentucky went unsolved for years until a local housewife, a journalist and a handful of girls came forward with a story.

[Jeffrey]

America, y' all better wake the hell up.

[Ed Helms]

Bad things happens to good people and small towns.

[Narrator (Graves County Podcast)]

Listen to Graves county on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. And to binge the entire season ad free. Subscribe to Lava for Good plus on Apple Podcasts.

[Brooke]

In early 1988, federal agents raced to track down the gang they suspect of importing millions of dollars worth of heroin into New York from Asia.

[Johnny Knoxville]

Had 30 agents ready to go with.

[Ashwin]

Shotguns and rifles and you name it.

[Sierra]

Five, six white people pushed me in the car.

[Jeffrey]

I'm going, what the hell? Basically your stay at home moms were picking up these large amounts of heroin.

[Co-host/Panelist (possibly Alexis or another co-host)]

All you gotta do is receive the package. Don't have to open it, just accept it.

[Ed Helms]

She was very upset, crying.

[Co-host/Panelist (possibly Alexis or another co-host)]

Once I saw the gun, I tried.

[Brooke]

To take his hand and I saw the flash of light. Listen to the Chinatown sting on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or anywhere you get your podcasts.