Second Date Update: Pawn Shop Shopping Trip

Summary

Podcast Summary: Brooke & Jeffrey: Second Date Update – "Pawn Shop Shopping Trip"
Episode Date: March 2, 2026
Podcast: Brooke & Jeffrey in the Morning (iHeartPodcasts)

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Episode Overview

In this episode of "Second Date Update," Brooke, Jeffrey, and the team help listener Gage figure out why he was ghosted after a unique first date with Ainsley. Their outing wasn’t dinner or drinks, but an impromptu antiquing adventure—including a trip to a pawn shop. The date takes a surprising turn after Ainsley shares her perspective, revealing a hidden errand Gage tried to squeeze in. The hosts delve into communication mishaps, awkward encounters, and ultimately help the couple decide if a second chance is worth it.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Setting Up the Second Date Update ([02:40–03:44])

• Brooke and Jeffrey discuss how often men underestimate what women notice on dates.
  • Quote: “The general rule is we notice everything.” – Brooke (03:02)

2. Gage’s Version: A Spontaneous, “Out-of-the-Box” Date ([03:44–09:49])

• Gage describes meeting Ainsley online, nearly forgetting their date, and scrambling for a creative plan, ending up at a strip mall.
• The date includes:
  • Antiquing and visiting pawn shops.
  • A failed attempt to buy a vintage 60s scarf for Ainsley because Gage refused to pay more than $8 for a $15 item, preferring to haggle even on a date.
    • Quote: “You’re not going for a deal on a date.” – Jeffrey (07:08)
  • Drinks and popcorn shrimp after shopping.
• Gage admits the conversation at dinner felt “a little forced.”
• He expresses genuine interest in Ainsley and wants a “real date” with more planning—even promising (jokingly, but seriously) to make a reservation.
  • Quote: “I’m willing to make a reservation.” – Gage (08:53)
• Gage shares that he returned for the scarf later, but with the price bumped to $18, still refused to buy it.
  • Quote: “Oh, he jacked up the price to 18 bucks. So I didn’t get it.” – Gage (09:24)

3. The Call to Ainsley: Her Side Unfolds ([12:06–17:19])

• On-air, Ainsley sounds surprised but open to sharing her experience.
  • She enjoyed the novelty of the antique shop but found the transition to a pawn shop peculiar—having never been in one before.
  • She noticed Gage engaged in a “secretive” conversation at the pawn shop counter, where he was attempting to sell a woman’s (engagement) ring.
    • Quote: “It occurs to me that we’re not on a date. He’s trying to sell his engagement ring.” – Ainsley (16:04)
• Ainsley admits the situation felt “weird,” as she was unaware she’d become part of Gage running a personal errand.
• Brooke and co-hosts encourage openness, suggesting Ainsley might have participated if she’d just been told.

4. The Reveal and Communication Breakdown ([17:22–19:35])

• Gage joins the call and confirms selling the ring was a multitasking move—the ring was from a prior relationship and he thought it practical to “kill two birds with one stone.”
  • Quote: “I’m a bus guy. I try to stack things together. I’m gonna multitask.” – Gage (17:19)
• Ainsley wanted clear communication and transparency.
  • She might have joined in on the pawn shop negotiations if she’d been looped in from the start.
  • Quote: “Why wouldn’t you tell me...loop me in that that’s what we're doing?” – Ainsley (17:42)
• Gage, attempting to frame his actions positively: “I’m a commitment-minded person. I think that’s what that shows.” (18:21)
• He also confirms he didn’t sell the ring and that the money was intended for dinner—he didn’t want to use his credit card.

5. Resolution: Second Chances & Playful Teasing ([19:14–20:09])

• Gage makes a heartfelt plea to take Ainsley on a “real” date with no jewelry pawning involved.
  • Quote: “Please let me take you out on a real date where I’m not pawning any jewelry.” – Gage (19:34)
• Brooke and Jeffrey offer to pay for the second outing if Ainsley agrees.
• After some laughter, Ainsley accepts the second date.
  • Quote: “Sure.” – Ainsley (19:50)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “I was just trying to kill two birds with one stone...Well, you killed both birds, though, is the problem.” – Brooke (17:31–17:34)
• “Hey, will you try on my ex’s engagement ring so I could get a better price?” – Brooke (18:01)
• “That is super romantic, Ainsley. We’ve never heard a man say that on this segment.” – Jeffrey (19:35)
• “[Ainsley:] Sure.” (Agrees to the second date – 19:50)
• “Brooke: You better.” (When Gage says he’ll impress Ainsley on their next date – 20:00)

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Key Timestamps for Important Segments

| MM:SS | Segment | |-----------|-------------| | 02:40–03:44 | Hosts banter, introduce Second Date Update segment | | 03:44–09:49 | Gage recounts his version of the date | | 12:06–15:14 | Call with Ainsley begins, her side of the story starts | | 15:14–17:19 | The pawn shop revelation: Gage attempts to sell a ring | | 17:19–18:19 | Gage explains himself; communication issues discussed | | 19:14–19:50 | Gage asks for, and receives, a second date | | 22:32–23:09 | Hosts reflect comically on communication lessons |

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Tone and Style

The hosts maintain a playful, gently sarcastic tone, often poking fun at dating mishaps while highlighting the importance of honesty and communication. The dynamic is light-hearted and supportive, with friendly teasing both of Gage and each other.

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Takeaway

This episode humorously illustrates how missed expectations and lack of communication can derail a promising date—but also how honesty (and a willingness to laugh about mistakes) can give second chances a real shot. Gage’s attempt to sell his ex’s engagement ring during the date was an “errand too far,” and Ainsley’s willingness to try again—provided she’s kept in the loop next time—turned a would-be disaster into a quirky love story listeners won’t soon forget.

Transcript

[Brooke]

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[Gage]

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[Gage]

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[Brooke]

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[Jeffrey]

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[Brooke]

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[Jeffrey]

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[Brooke]

All right, brand new second date podcast for you to start your week. Hey, it's Brooke and Jeffrey. Thanks so much for being here. And today's really a lesson. God, I don't even know if it's that. Like, it's just always shocking to me what people don't tell us before we get the other person on the phone.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, yeah.

[Brooke]

Kind of in general what men do and think women don't notice. Right, right. I mean, the general rule is we notice everything.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

It's a reason why your mom has always known what's up. Okay. We pay attention. She sees and hears it all. Yeah. Yeah. All right, what do we got for comments? Amy said you guys have gotten me through cleaning my room and that's the toughest chore out there. Not even a 12 hour playlist can do that. Clean your room more often and it would be such a chore.

[Jeffrey]

I saw somebody on my stream yesterday doing deep cleaning, saying they're watching me play video games and also listening to the spot.

[Brooke]

Yes.

[Jeffrey]

I'm like, how are you multitasking that much?

[Gage]

Wow.

[Jeffrey]

Like crazy.

[Brooke]

Double the Jose. I love it.

[Jeffrey]

I don't know how.

[Brooke]

All right, your brand new second date starts right now. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Second date update.

[Jeffrey]

Sometimes for a first date, you need to branch out from doing the same old activities.

[Brooke]

Oh, for sure.

[Jeffrey]

Think outside the box.

[Brooke]

Nobody wants to think inside the box, Jeff.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, like instead of taking her to a high end seafood restaurant, take her down to the docks, hand her a pole and a bucket of worms and see if she can catch her own seafood.

[Brooke]

I see. Teach a man to fish.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, well, I get it. It's. That's close to the saying. I know. Give a woman a fish, she'll eat for a day. Teach a woman to fish, she'll smell like clams for an entire week. That's a good thing. And one of our listeners has reached out after he took a woman on an out of the box type of date. His name is Gage, so let's talk to him about it. Gage, welcome to the show, ma'. Am.

[Gage]

Hey, how's it going?

[Brooke]

Oh, did you do some urban foraging to make a salad?

[Gage]

In a sense, you're actually pretty close.

[Jeffrey]

No way.

[Gage]

Interesting.

[Jeffrey]

Do you know what urban foraging means, Gage? Dumpster diving? Yeah.

[Brooke]

Well, it's a more uncouth way to say it.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, sorry. Sorry. Instead of us guessing, why don't you tell us about this woman that you met and what you did together?

[Gage]

Well, her name's Ainsley and she is just super duper cute. We met on one of the dating websites, and great pictures, great personality, at least online. So we set up a date.

[Brooke]

Okay. Were you thinking in that moment that you wanted to do something unique and special? Or is unique and special what you always do?

[Gage]

I kind of almost forgot about it. Like, really snuck up on me.

[Brooke]

Oh, the way Jeff set it up, it sounded like you were playing something.

[Jeffrey]

Well, that's how I thought. I didn't. I thought, this is an out of the box date. You didn't even have a box.

[Brooke]

This is a scrambling, don't know what's happening date.

[Jeffrey]

Like, let's just do whatever. So what did you decide to do with Ainsley at the last second?

[Gage]

So she messaged me just an hour before to confirm. I was like, oh, yeah, let's meet at this address. So I gave her an address.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, okay. Google the. Like, the Olive Garden's address and give it to her or what?

[Gage]

No, but it wasn't a strip mall, so there may have been an Olive Garden nearby,

[Jeffrey]

but there's a lot of businesses here.

[Brooke]

I'm still in, like, could it be a mani pedi at a strip mall? I mean, I'm always down for one of those.

[Gage]

We went antiquing.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, wow.

[Gage]

Isn't that cool?

[Brooke]

Yeah.

Alexis, I like thrifting, so, I mean, it's the same.

[Jeffrey]

It's just way more expensive.

[Brooke]

Yeah. Oh, not necessarily.

[Jeffrey]

I think of. I think of thrifting as, like, clothes and antiquing as, like, furniture. So what did you. You buy like, a desk together or, like, glassware?

[Brooke]

They have such fun glassware at antique shops.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, some old lamps. That's hot.

[Gage]

You know, there's some really nice pawn shops out there, so I. The first stop was my favorite pawn shop.

[Jeffrey]

You're have to tell us where those nice pawn shops are, but. Yeah. What? Sorry, go ahead. You've seen Pawn Stars?

[Gage]

We. I took her to, like, three different places, and she found this vintage scarf that I think was from the 60s that she clearly really liked.

[Brooke]

And so did you buy it for?

[Gage]

Well, I took it up to the front. The guy wouldn't budge on it. He wanted 15, which is crazy.

[Brooke]

15 bucks?

[Jeffrey]

Bro, you're not going for a deal on a date.

[Gage]

It was only worth at least eight. I mean, come on, you got to have haggles. Part of the thing.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, well, you don't want to have a woman see you getting ripped off, because that's not attractive either. So I'm glad that you stood your ground and were like, no.

[Brooke]

What did she say? When you didn't buy it, she said it was fine.

[Gage]

I think she was impressed. You guys are right. It's an alpha move.

[Jeffrey]

Yes.

[Brooke]

I think she wanted the scarf and she didn't get the scarf, end of the day.

[Gage]

Yeah, I told her she could go back and get it another time if she wanted, but not that day. You can never go back the same day to get that item.

[Brooke]

Yeah, because then they'll just. Well, then they'll upcharge you because then they know you really want it.

[Gage]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

Desperation sets in. Okay, that doesn't feel like very romantic,

[Brooke]

but that was the first step. Okay, Maybe we got her something great at another shot.

[Jeffrey]

I respectfully disagree with what everybody else is saying in the room. I think you're doing a great job, Gage. So keep going.

[Gage]

Yeah, it was fun. And then, you know, we're getting a little hungry because we've been doing that for 45 minutes an hour. So we popped down to this little local bar and grabbed some popcorn shrimp and had a couple beers.

[Jeffrey]

Nice popcorn shrimp. So good. Did you talk them down from the price of the shrimp, too?

[Gage]

That price was firm, unfortunately.

[Brooke]

What was the. Like, what was the vibe between you two like?

[Gage]

It was cool. I mean, shopping was definitely the high point. Once we sat down and we're having some dinner and drinks, it didn't quite feel as natural. The conversation was a little forced at that point. But I still really like her and I want to take her on a real date now.

[Brooke]

Oh, like one you actually remember before it comes up.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, I see. So not like a last minute date that you just threw together. Maybe even make a reservation. Oh, whoa.

[Gage]

Yeah, I'm willing to make a reservation.

[Jeffrey]

Wow. You're willing to go that far for this girl? After hanging out with her once?

[Brooke]

She's going to swoop.

[Jeffrey]

This is the bare minimum Brooke talks about. I know you made a reservation. I know you might even propose by the time we get to the end of the call. I'm scared. How long has it been since you last hung out with her?

[Gage]

It's been a week and a half. God.

[Brooke]

If you were a pro, you'd go back to the pawn shop, get the scarf, and then bring it to the next.

[Gage]

I'm way ahead of you. I went back there to get that scarf. Oh. He jacked up the price to 18 bucks. So I didn't get it.

[Brooke]

You didn't get it?

[Jeffrey]

Oh, no. No way. So you thought about it?

[Brooke]

Oh, no. That's just three more dollars.

[Jeffrey]

No, he's not willing to budge. And I appreciate that you know what you want and you say, stick to your guns and you will go for it for nothing less than what you think it's worth. That's what we're going to do with Ainsley here today.

[Gage]

Yeah, let's focus on Ainsley, not the crummy shop where I gave a one star review to.

[Brooke]

Oh, you reviewed.

[Gage]

Good man.

[Jeffrey]

All right, well, I guarantee you that our listeners are going to give you a five star review once we get you a second date.

[Gage]

Is this free of charge or what? Do I have to pay for it?

[Jeffrey]

I like that you're already starting to haggle. I appreciate that about you, Gage.

[Brooke]

I feel like he needs to pay us 10 bucks.

[Jeffrey]

We should start. Yeah, we should start somewhere. Yeah, we're start at $100 just for him. We'll meet somewhere in the middle when we come back and do your second date update right after this.

[Brooke]

Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Second date update.

[Jeffrey]

I'm not sure if a last second trip to an old pawn shop is what most women would consider a romantic experience, but hey, maybe Ainsley isn't most women. That's what we're hoping for. Cause we've been talking with one of our listeners, Gage, and he admits he did not do much planning before his big date with Ainsley. So they ended up just bouncing around a local strip mall doing some antiquing, haggling over the price of old 1960s scarves, which he never actually bought. So it's been a week and a half, and Gage has now reached out to us saying he would really like a redo, where he promises he will definitely do more planning this time around. Yes, he even said he may make a reservation.

[Gage]

Whoa.

[Jeffrey]

Our jaws dropped.

[Brooke]

Ever asked him, did you hear anything from Ainsley after the date?

[Gage]

Not a thing.

[Brooke]

Oh, okay. Well, maybe she's just busy pawning her stuff. Like she. Her eyes were really open. Once you start, you get hooked on it. The possibilities.

[Gage]

Yeah, she got the fever.

[Brooke]

Yes. You did that.

[Jeffrey]

Look at you. I know. Now you have like a shared interest that carries on through the rest of your relationship. If we can get her to agree to a second date. What if she picks up and she's in a pawn shop? Yeah, I'm actually in the middle of negotiating. Can I call you back? Yeah.

[Gage]

Oh, that would be so hot.

[Brooke]

That'd be so hot.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, this might be a match made in heaven.

[Brooke]

Maybe it's your pal Queen.

[Jeffrey]

It could be. Let's see if she even answers the phone. I'm gonna dial her right now. Here we Go.

[Brooke]

Hello.

[Jeffrey]

Hey, Ainsley. This is Jeff from the radio show Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning.

[Brooke]

Oh, hi.

Hi. Hi, Ainsley. The whole show's here.

[Jeffrey]

Hi, good morning. I like your name.

[Brooke]

Thank you.

She's like my parents did.

[Jeffrey]

Well, yeah, we definitely approve. And we don't want to be too intrusive here or anything, but we would like to ask you a few intimate details about your dating life. Oh, my gosh. Nothing too over the top. Why do you say it like that?

[Brooke]

We want the intimate part.

[Jeffrey]

Well, you know, we do want to pry a little bit, if that's okay.

[Brooke]

I. I don't know. I guess it depends. I'm not sure.

[Jeffrey]

I'll just ask. Do you remember going out a little while ago with a guy named Gage?

[Brooke]

Oh, yeah.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah. Perfect.

[Brooke]

Oh, gosh.

[Jeffrey]

Oh. Was sharp Gauged has reached out to us asking if we could get a hold of you, because this is a segment called A Second Date Update, and we're trying to help him figure out if there's a reason why you haven't seen each other in the last week and a half.

[Brooke]

Okay, so he. Wait, he called you guys?

[Jeffrey]

He reached out to us, and from what we heard, it sounds like, at least from the way you're acting, maybe you don't want to go out with him again. But we don't know if that's true or if there was a problem with the date or with him.

[Brooke]

And if it is true, we'd love to know why. Yeah, I mean, I think is the thing.

[Jeffrey]

Would you mind telling us a little bit about your experience with Gage?

[Brooke]

Sure, I guess.

[Jeffrey]

I mean, only because he's clueless. He doesn't know if something went wrong.

[Brooke]

Okay. Yeah. Yeah, sure. That's fine.

Okay, so we'll start at the strip mall. Is that where we start?

Yeah. So you know about that. So he gives me this address, which is a strip mall.

Did you look it up before you got there, or was it a surprise?

No, it was a surprise. I didn't know where it was.

Okay, so that's.

[Jeffrey]

And on a scale of 1 to 10, how romantic was that idea to you?

[Brooke]

Well, it was an antique shop, which is, I thought, kind of cute. Like, totally different. Never been on a date at an antique shop before. That was new.

Was it a pawn shop or an antique shop?

[Jeffrey]

I think they went to both.

[Brooke]

Oh, okay.

[Gage]

It was.

[Brooke]

The first one was an antique shop, which was cute. So we go in and we're, like, looking around for 10 or 15 minutes, and he's kind of, like, just quirky, You Know, he's got this, like, quirky personality, and he's funny and.

Oh, so you like that? That was a plus.

Yeah, I was. Until he's like, hey, let's go over here. Across the way. There's this pawn shop over here.

Yeah, you can find cool old stuff at pawn shops.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

I had never been to one, so I didn't know. So we go over to this pawn shop, which is very different than the antique shop. Vibe.

Yeah, different vibes.

It's huge. It's like. It's very big.

[Gage]

It's.

[Brooke]

You know, I'd never been in one, so I'm kind of, like, walking around trying to figure out what this place is.

Yeah.

And he. He's over at the counter and, like, talking to some guy that works at the pawn shop. And so I realized I've been looking at stuff for a while, and he's been talking to the guy for a while. So I'm like, what is he talking about? Like, what's going on? So I kind of, like, sneak over to see if I can hear what they're talking about because it seems kind of secretive. And I can see that he's got a ring, like a woman's ring, which looks like an engagement ring.

Yeah, those get pawned a lot. So, like, rings and guns are really, really what pawn shops are for.

[Jeffrey]

Why would he be trying to buy an engagement ring?

[Brooke]

He wasn't trying to buy it. I think he's trying to sell it. Oh, so the guy has the loop and they're looking at it, and it occurs to me that we're not on a date. He's trying to sell his engagement ring.

You're running an errand. A really questionable errand. So why didn't you ask him? Why didn't you ask him? What are you doing? What was that?

Because if he didn't tell me, that would be weird to ask him.

I don't know.

[Jeffrey]

What were you doing over there?

[Brooke]

Maybe you could position yourself as a potential buyer.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah. How much do they offer?

[Brooke]

I know.

[Jeffrey]

Brooke is much more intrusive than most people. She'll just go up and ask any question. Doesn't matter how offensive.

[Brooke]

Women do need to call out men more. If your day is pawning a ring during the day, I think you have every right to be like, yo, what's up?

[Jeffrey]

Did you just do that? Let's just ask him right now, the Brook way, because he is on the other line wanting to talk to you as soon as we punch him up.

[Brooke]

Oh, really?

[Jeffrey]

Yeah. Yeah, I think he's there, Gage?

[Gage]

Supposed to be. Hi, Ainsley.

[Brooke]

Hi, Gage.

[Gage]

So you didn't. You didn't like antiquing?

[Jeffrey]

No, no, he's trying.

[Brooke]

He's trying to not address the situation.

[Jeffrey]

Gage, you didn't mention anything to us about a ring at the shop.

[Gage]

Look, it belonged to a girl that I did not end up marrying, like, a year ago. It's, like, old news.

[Jeffrey]

So it was yours.

[Brooke]

You had a year to sell the

ring, but you waited till the day of the date to try to sell it?

[Gage]

I'm a bus guy. I try to stack things together. You know, I'm gonna multitask. If I'm close to the pawn shop, I'm gonna take care of business.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, you just haven't been around the pawn shop in a year.

[Brooke]

Did you think she wouldn't notice?

[Gage]

Look, I was just trying to kill two birds with one stone.

[Brooke]

Yeah, you killed both birds, though, is the problem.

[Gage]

Okay, well, fine. But, Ainsley, are you saying that was a turn off?

[Brooke]

It was so weird and, like. Okay, even if you're gonna do that, why wouldn't you tell me or, like, like, loop me in that? That's what we're doing.

[Gage]

Well, I was gonna ask you if you wanted to try it on because the guy was giving me a price for it. Oh, gosh, I thought that would be even weirder.

[Jeffrey]

Can you imagine?

[Brooke]

Hey, will you try on my ex's engagement ring so I could get a better price?

[Jeffrey]

Well, Ainsley is saying that she just wanted that clear communication so she knew what was going on.

[Brooke]

Would you have done that? Come on.

I actually honestly think I probably would have, like, if I felt looped in on it.

Oh, like a Bonnie and Clyde.

[Gage]

I mean, look, I'm a commitment minded person. I think that's what that shows.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, that is. Yeah. Gage, did you actually sell it?

[Gage]

No, he didn't want to offer me anything for it.

[Jeffrey]

Of course.

[Gage]

I was trying to make enough money for dinner. I didn't want to use my credit card.

[Brooke]

Oh, look at that. Okay, that's a man who doesn't want to go into debt. Also a plus, Ainsley.

[Gage]

Yeah, I'm a cash man.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, someone that can think on his feet as, like, the moment comes to him. So we're seeing a lot of positives from this, Ainsley, and we think you should, too, and consider giving him another chance, because if you do, we will offer to pay for your second date.

[Brooke]

You guys might be a match made in heaven, since you are a woman who would have tried that engagement ring on. And he still needs to sell it, so.

[Jeffrey]

I mean, or you can hold on to it and use it on you one day.

[Brooke]

I would like to see it. You know, now I'm curious about his taste in spring.

[Gage]

Oh, hey, look, I've been thinking about you for the last 10 days. And I went back to that pawn shop to get that scarf, but the guy had jacked up the price to $18. Oh, yeah. He was trying to gouge me, so I didn't get it, but you've been on my mind. I'm just asking you, please let me take you out on a real date where I'm not pawning any jewelry.

[Jeffrey]

Wow, that is super romantic, Ainsley. We've never heard a man ever say that on this segment. We've thousands of these calls. But at this point, we do need a yes or no. Do you want to see Gage one more time?

[Brooke]

Sure. Yes

we've ever had.

[Jeffrey]

Her heart was so in that gage.

[Gage]

All right, I'm gonna impress you.

[Brooke]

You better.

[Jeffrey]

Oh. This is not only a 90% chance that she's gonna ghost you before you actually meet up. So good luck.

[Gage]

I accept.

[Jeffrey]

I'll take those out.

[Brooke]

Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.

[Jeffrey]

What if mind control is real?

[Gage]

If you could control the behavior of anybody around you, what kind of life would you have?

[Brooke]

Can you hypnotically persuade someone to buy a car?

[Gage]

When you look at your car, you're going to become overwhelmed with such good feelings.

[Brooke]

Can you hypnotize someone into sleeping with you?

[Jeffrey]

I gave her some suggestions to be sexually aroused.

[Brooke]

Can you get someone to join your cult?

[Jeffrey]

NLP was used on me to access my subconscious.

[Brooke]

Nlp, AKA Neuro Linguistic Programming, is a blend of hypnosis, linguistics, and psychology.

Fans say it's like finally getting a user manual for your brain.

[Jeffrey]

It's about engineering consciousness.

[Brooke]

Mind Games is the story of nlp, its crazy cast of disciples, and the fake doctor who invented it at a New age commune and sold it to guys in school.

He stood trial for murder and got acquitted.

The biggest mind game of all, nlp, might actually work.

This is wild. Listen to mind Games on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Jeffrey]

Welcome to the A building. I'm Hans Charles.

[Gage]

I'm inalec Lumumba. It's 1969. Malcolm X and Martin Luther King Jr have both been assassinated, and black America was at a breaking point. Rioting and protest broke out on an

[Jeffrey]

unprecedented scale in Atlanta, Georgia. At Martin's alma mater, Morehouse College, the students had their own protest. It featured two prominent figures in black history, Martin Luther King Sr. And a young student, Samuel L. Jackson.

[Gage]

To be in what we really thought was a revolution. I mean, people were dying.

[Jeffrey]

1968, the murder of Dr. King, which traumatized everyone. The FBI had a role in the murder of a Black Panther leader in Chicago.

[Gage]

This story is about protest. It echoes in today's world far more than it should. And it will blow your mind.

[Jeffrey]

Listen to the a building on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And how many relationship experts always say, if a man could just communicate a little bit more, it's gonna make the relationship that much better? Better? Yeah.

[Brooke]

Yeah. I mean, that's true all the time.

[Jeffrey]

So, gentlemen, don't be secretive anymore. Tell your date you want her to help you sell your ex girlfriend's belongings at the pawn store. Ask them to model that engagement ring.

[Brooke]

It sounds nuts, but it would have worked with her.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, you do that and she will love you forever. That is what I've learned from today's call.

[Brooke]

I mean, she didn't say whether or not she'd want to cut, though. I mean, if you're gonna be the model and you're gonna help the sale, I'm just saying there's probably a percentage that should be thrown.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And a cut of money is the start to any healthy relationship.

[Brooke]

That's right, Jeff. Modern day dating.

[Jeffrey]

I love that we're doing this service for the world and all the daters out there. So if you want to get in on this action, email the show. We'll call that person who's not calling you back, and go check out all of our second dates. We have them up on our podcast. Wherever you get yours. At Brooke and Jeffrey.