Second Date Update Podcast: Never Ask About The Ex

Summary

Podcast Summary: "Second Date Update Podcast: Never Ask About The Ex"

Podcast: Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Host: iHeartPodcasts
Episode Date: December 5, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this lively installment of “Second Date Update,” the Brooke and Jeffrey team investigates why David hasn’t heard back from Ava after what he thought were two promising dates. The episode dives into how talking about exes (and fixating on past drama) can derail new romantic connections—and why trying to force “revenge passion” from someone’s history almost never works out the way you want. Expect plenty of laughs, some cringeworthy confessions, and a definitive “what not to do” lesson in modern dating.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Setting the Scene: David’s Predicament (04:27–05:32)

• David reaches out after being ignored by Ava following their two dates.
• He fears he "messed things up" after learning she's attractive and has "many other suitors."
• The show notes: “There was a lot of talking about exes on this couple’s first date. And the guy was very into it, so...”

Memorable moment:

Jeffrey (04:27): “A lot of people say if you want to date successfully, you gotta be willing to play the game... But our listener David thinks he's been playing the game too much too hard for too long."

2. The Date Deconstructed: Planning, Ex Talk, and Red Flags (05:28–07:47)

• David took Ava to a tropical-themed bar, trying to impress her with planning—her previous partner never did that.
• This led into a detailed discussion of her ex and his cheating, with Ava sharing a wild "revenge" story:
  • She cooked a fancy dinner, had "the best sex of his life," then dumped him.
• The hosts are fascinated and confused by this "revenge."

Notable Quotes:

Brooke (07:03): “Whoa, wait, that’s what she told you?”
David (07:34): "After it was over, she asked him, 'So, how was that?' And he said, 'That was the best I’ve ever had.' And she responds, 'Good, because it’s the last time you’ll ever get it. I know you’ve been cheating on me, and I’m leaving you.'"

3. David's Misguided Strategy (08:18–09:50)

• David was so impressed (or obsessed) by Ava’s breakup story, he tried to trigger the same response from her—hoping she would want “revenge” on him.
  • He purposely acted like a jerk on date two, even stealing her fries, trying to "annoy" her.
  • Hoped she’d channel her anger into a repeat of the “last time” scenario.
• The hosts are incredulous and point out his behavior would likely backfire.

Notable Quotes:

David (09:00): “On the second date, I kind of just started to be kind of a jerk to her, to...see what I can get for misbehaving.” Brooke (09:07): “You’re holding on to the wrong part of the story for her.”

4. The Second Date Stall and David’s Regret (09:50–10:51)

• Ava stops responding after the second date; David recognizes his plan's failure—but still wants another chance.
• Reveals Ava told him he was the first guy she went out with since her breakup.

5. The Call: David and Ava Reunite On Air (13:28–17:02)

• Jeffrey brings Ava onto the line, who immediately realizes why she stopped replying:
  • “No response is a response, guys.” (14:09)
• Ava bluntly says she didn't like David, found him rude and disrespectful.
• David tries to hint at the "revenge" scenario, referencing her ex's story. Ava is flabbergasted he thought she'd react that way.
• She clarifies: she dated her ex for a year—and would "never do that again" (17:38).

Memorable moments:

Ava (16:04): “Why are you doing this?”
David (16:04): “Well, I’m doing it to get under your skin. Aren’t you mad at me?”
Ava (17:34): “Oh my God, are you serious right now? Wait, you thought that was going to happen to you?"

6. Lessons, Apologies, and a Firm ‘No’ (18:13–20:18)

• Brooke pushes David to own up and apologize. David confesses he was trying to annoy her on purpose.
• Ava is candid:
  • “Are you, like, the biggest idiot ever?”
  • “Yeah, that’s not happening.” (regarding a future date)
• Offers from the hosts to pay for another date are politely, but firmly, declined by Ava.

Notable Quotes:

Ava (20:07): “Did you just hear this entire conversation? It’s like I lost brain cells." Brooke (19:01): "Actions kind of speak louder than words right now."

7. Debrief & Takeaways (21:54–22:52)

• Hosts discuss whether talking about exes on a first date is ever a good idea—generally agreeing that it isn’t.
  • “Usually nothing good will come out of it, even if the backstory is super juicy.” (Jeffrey, 22:08)
• The group agrees David got caught up in fantasy, instead of reality.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• David: “I was doing things to bug you on purpose because, you know, I thought it would work.” (18:22)
• Ava: “No response is a response, guys.” (14:09)
• Brooke: “You’re holding on to the wrong part of the story for her.” (09:07)
• Jeffrey: “Never in the history of this show have I heard a tragic breakup story and said, gosh, I wish that would have been me.” (11:08)
• Ava: “Are you, like, the biggest idiot ever?” (18:30)
• Brooke: “Actions kind of speak louder than words right now.” (19:01)

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Important Timestamps

• [04:27] – Jeffrey sets up the situation: David fears he’s “at the back of the line.”
• [05:32] – First date described: Tropical cocktails, ex’s lack of planning surfaces.
• [07:03] – Ava’s “revenge” breakup story revealed.
• [09:00] – David confesses to purposely annoying Ava to trigger a revenge scenario.
• [13:28] – Ava joins the call, makes clear she didn’t want to see David again.
• [17:25] – David admits he was hoping for the “revenge” treatment.
• [18:22] – David apologizes and explains his misguided antics.
• [20:04] – Offer for a paid second date is firmly rejected by Ava.
• [21:54] – Hosts reflect on the pitfalls of talking about exes on early dates.

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Conclusion & Takeaways

This episode delivers a comedic but cringe-inducing lesson: Do not try to engineer drama (or base real-life dating strategies) on someone’s revenge story. Talking about exes so early can derail budding connections, and “playing games” usually ends badly—especially when you misread the story’s message entirely.

Both hosts and listeners are left amused and exasperated, while David gets a harsh (but funny) wake-up call about honesty—and how not to channel “revenge energy” on dates.

Final thought from Ava (20:07):

“Did you just hear this entire conversation? It’s like I lost brain cells.”

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For more cringe, laughs, and relatable dating fails, check out Brooke and Jeffrey’s Second Date Update podcast on iHeartRadio, Apple, or Spotify.

Transcript

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[Brooke]

Okay, before we get started, I do have to say one week from today, the countdown begins for the top second dates of the year.

[Old Navy Advertiser]

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[Sophie Cunningham]

Yes.

[Brooke]

We're gonna count down the top 10 of this year starting next Friday.

[Alexis]

You know how we narrow that down?

[Brooke]

They're all amazing. Well, it's off of listens. Yeah.

[Alexis]

Oh, you guys do it for us.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

So there's a number. Don't worry.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yeah, there's a number.

[Brooke]

There's some analytics behind it. That's always the fun part of analytics. No, but today we got a brand new second date update. And I'll just say that there was a lot of talking about exes on this couple's first date. Yeah, there is. And the guy was very into it, so. Yeah, he was strange. You don't hear that often. No, you'll hear why coming up in just a second. But comments we'd love to highlight. What do you see, Alexis? This comment said. Hey, I'm the first comment.

[Old Navy Advertiser]

Love your show.

[Brooke]

I usually don't comment, but mainly I want to hear you to try to pronounce my name. Okay, so I'll give everyone a try. I'm going Mayan, but I feel like that's too obvious.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Mayan.

[Brooke]

Okay, it's M, A, A Y A.

[Alexis]

N. Oh, it could be Mayan.

[Brooke]

Ooh, I like that. Or Mayan because the two A's Mayan. I can't pronounce the emoji after this chocolate bar. Good job, Brooke. Knew you could do that. One snack. Yep, that's right. Your brand new second date starts right now.

[Jeffrey]

Second date upd.

A lot of people say if you want to date successfully, you gotta be willing to play the game.

[Brooke]

Oh.

[Jeffrey]

But others will say, I'm not here.

[Brooke]

To play games, but then play games anyway.

[Jeffrey]

And those people are single and lonely.

[Brooke]

Okay.

[Jeffrey]

But our listener David thinks that he's been playing the game too much too hard for too long.

[Brooke]

Oh, he's a long time player, especially.

[Jeffrey]

With one lady in particular. And now he fears he might be at the back of the line because this girl is good looking. That's according to his email. Has many other suitors. So he's worried he may have screwed it up for himself. David, buddy, welcome to the show. What's going on, man?

[David]

It's not good, guys.

[Brooke]

It's not good.

[Jeffrey]

We don't know that yet. David.

[Brooke]

Usually Jeffrey sets you up and things sound way more dire than they actually are, but not today, no.

[Jeffrey]

Well, let's get the story. Tell us this girl's name. Why? You feel like maybe you mess things up?

[David]

Yeah, her name's Ava, and we met on an app.

[Brooke]

Okay.

[Jeffrey]

Okay.

[David]

I took her to, like, this outdoor mall place, like a tropical drink kind of spot and, like, Polynesian theme, I think.

[Brooke]

Cool.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, it was a rainforest cafe, because that's not really Polynesian. I think it's more Brazilian.

[David]

Better than that, but yeah.

[Jeffrey]

Okay.

[Sophie Cunningham]

That's cool.

[Brooke]

Tropical cocktails and a fun, fun vibe.

[David]

Yeah, exactly. She actually really liked it. Thing that she really appreciated that I planned this and I looked into it beforehand because apparently her ex never did that.

[Brooke]

Oh, is that what she said?

[David]

Yeah. Okay, so I said, since you brought it up, Is that why you left him? Because he wasn't really a planner.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, okay. We're just gonna dive into the conversation about the exes.

[Brooke]

I mean, are you okay with talking about this at this point, or, like, how are you feeling about where the conversation is going to?

[Ava]

Yeah, I don't know.

[David]

Like, looking back at it, I probably shouldn't have brought it up, but it was just kind of flowing in the conversation. It was a natural conversation, so I just kind of went with it, you know?

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

Just working with what she's giving you, I guess.

[Brooke]

It's a real question. All right.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah. So you asked. Is that why you left him, because he didn't plan? What'd she say?

[David]

Yeah, I mean, she's like, no, no, that's not it. But I'll tell you the story. And it turns out she discovered he was cheating on her.

[Alexis]

Sometimes it does lead to a good story. I was gonna say.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah.

[Alexis]

And you want to hear about that?

[Brooke]

And cheating does take a lot of planning, so maybe he wasn't that bad.

[Alexis]

Cheers are on another level.

[Brooke]

Planning energy was going.

[Jeffrey]

Okay.

[David]

It's kind of weird because when she discovered that he was cheating on her, he came home that night, she actually made him his favorite meal, had a whole candlelight dinner for him, and then gave him the quote, unquote, best sex of his life.

[Brooke]

Whoa, wait, that's what she told you?

[Jeffrey]

Yeah. Wow. This came up during your conversation.

[Alexis]

There's punishment for cheating? I've never cheated. I kind of watch it. What the hell?

[Brooke]

Why is she telling You. And why would she do that?

[Ava]

I know.

[Brooke]

I have had this happen to a friend, too.

[Alexis]

Oh, really?

[Brooke]

Have you reacted that way?

[Ava]

Yeah. Oh, my God.

[Brooke]

I need to talk to your friend.

[Jeffrey]

Alexis is using code because she did it herself.

Quote, unquote friend, all casual.

[Alexis]

Yeah, My friends do this.

[Old Navy Advertiser]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

This is some weird revenge.

[Alexis]

Wow.

[David]

Yeah, I mean, there's more to it. I mean, apparently after it was over, she asked him, so, how was that? And he said, that was the best I've ever had. And she responds, good, because it's the last time you'll ever get it. I know you've been cheating on me and I'm leaving you.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, okay. That's the revenge.

[Alexis]

But still, it feels like such a good way to get broken up with.

[Brooke]

Yeah, that is not hitting the way.

[Sophie Cunningham]

You want it to.

[Lowe's Advertiser]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

Alexis, did your quote unquote friend do that, too?

[Brooke]

No, it didn't quite end that way for them. I'm guessing they stayed together on and off for the next four or five months. Maybe they might be married.

[Lowe's Advertiser]

Wow.

[Jeffrey]

I mean, like, where do you go in the date from that point?

[Brooke]

Do you like the appetizers?

[Jeffrey]

So what happened next, David?

[David]

Well, I mean, that was kind of the end of the date. I mean, we did kiss the end.

[Brooke]

But you kissed after that. Yes.

[Alexis]

The best kiss of your life. Because it's a bad thing.

[David]

That story has been kind of stuck in my head because now I'm purposely trying to make her mad at me so she'll want to get back at me.

[Brooke]

Wait, wait, what are you doing to make her mad at you?

[David]

Like, we'll go to dinner and I'll feel fries off her plate. Just kind of annoyingly.

[Brooke]

Oh, so you guys have. You guys are kind of dating right now? Is that what you're saying?

[David]

We've had two dates. We've had two dates.

[Jeffrey]

Two dates. Okay.

[David]

On the second date, I kind of just started to be kind of a jerk to her, to kind of see what I can get for being misbehaving.

[Jeffrey]

Right, because you want her to be upset with you so that she'll cook you a nice meal and give you the best night out.

[Brooke]

This. Cannot forget the very end where she leaves them. Like, you're holding on to the wrong part of the story for her.

[David]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, I'm just doing the little bare minimum things to annoy her. I'm not cheating on her or anything. You know, I just. I just want to get to the point where she'll want to do those things to me, but she won't Dump me.

[Brooke]

Okay, okay.

[Jeffrey]

She'll give you a lesser revenge, and.

[Alexis]

You, like, one way the first day and then completely different the next day. Maybe she's like, I don't know who he really is.

[Brooke]

I don't think she wants revenge on you.

[Alexis]

She's not invested in you yet.

[Jeffrey]

Well, you must be coming to us now, because clearly communication is broken down or something like that.

[Alexis]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ava]

What's.

[Old Navy Advertiser]

What's.

[Jeffrey]

What's going on?

[David]

Yeah, I mean, I'm definitely in my head about it because she hasn't spoken to me in a bit.

[Brooke]

So I was a jerk to her, and now she's not talking to me.

[Jeffrey]

Weird how it plays out.

[Brooke]

He did say it was bad at the beginning of this. Yeah, it is bad.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah. So now I understand why you're probably feeling a little bit remorseful.

[David]

I mean, it just sucks, guys, because, like you mentioned before, she's in a very attractive woman, and, you know, a lot of guys have been asking her out, but she told me I was, you know, the first guy she's gone out with since the breakup happened.

[Brooke]

Oh.

[Alexis]

Oh. It could have been rebound.

[Brooke]

Why would you not add that detail? Yeah, that is so important.

[Jeffrey]

He just said it. He just gave us the details.

[Brooke]

No, but at the beginning. That changes everything. All right?

[Jeffrey]

You told your story poorly, so we're.

[Alexis]

Gonna hold it against you, change our minds.

[Brooke]

There's so many more things wrong now. Yeah, clearly.

[Jeffrey]

You may have dug your own grave here, but we're gonna try and turn this around for you, get you the revenge that you've been seeking.

[Brooke]

Wait, is that what you're looking for, or do you think that you actually want to date this girl?

[David]

I mean, can I ask for both? I kind of want to be in a relationship and hook up with her.

[Jeffrey]

You know, Not a lot of relationships go that way, but we'll try to work our magic.

[Alexis]

Jeff, don't be too rude to her. She may take a liking to you.

Be friendly here.

[Jeffrey]

There's going to be a really weird ending when we come back, and we're going to call a. Before you try to get you your second date update, revenge style, right after this. Hold on. Second date update.

Never in the history of this show have I heard a tragic breakup story and said, gosh, I wish that would have been me.

[Brooke]

Oh, my gosh, so true.

[Jeffrey]

But it happened today because our listener David was on a date with a woman named Ava. They were talking about exes, and she said, quote, once I found out he was cheating on me, I made him his favorite dinner and gave him the best sex he'll ever have in his life.

[Brooke]

Why does it feel so aggressive when you say it?

[Jeffrey]

And then she left him.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Wow.

[Brooke]

That'll show him. Obviously, the men from the in the room learned their lesson too. They're not all begging to cheat.

[Jeffrey]

Now, for some reason, that got into David's head. So he's been purposely trying to annoy Ava so that he can be the beneficiary of her revenge tactics.

[Brooke]

That didn't really work, though.

[Jeffrey]

No, it's been kind of backfiring, and that's. I remember the exact.

[Alexis]

Was an ex. They dated for a while.

[Jeffrey]

It wasn't just two days. Totally different situation. That's what's brought him here. Oh, David, where is your head at?

[Alexis]

A lot of people texting in. Oh, David.

[David]

Yeah, I told you guys. I. I screwed up.

[Alexis]

He knows. That's true.

[Brooke]

I have a question, though. Like, are you wanting to own up to your behavior of being a jerk on the dates or be honest about it, or are you wanting her not to know that was on purpose?

[David]

Yeah, I mean, I'm willing to if it just kind of comes up organically, but I don't want to put my business out there right away.

[Brooke]

That makes sense. Like, if she says, well, I'm not calling him back because he's a jerk.

[Jeffrey]

Then we can say, well, yeah, there might be.

[Alexis]

He was doing it on purpose.

[Brooke]

He had the wrong idea of what you liked.

[Lowe's Advertiser]

Yeah.

[David]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

You know, we're about to call her here, but my advice for you, David, is if we do get her on the phone and you do get a chance to talk to her, try and be playful with her, because it's kind of a funny thing that's happened this whole way that this was played out.

[Brooke]

Oh, just Jeffrey advice all of a sudden away.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah. I don't usually give advice to our listeners here, but, you know, it's kind of a typical guy thing to think the way that you thought. So hopefully, if you lay it out playfully, she'll see the humor in it.

[David]

I can be playful.

[Brooke]

Okay.

[Jeffrey]

Thank goodness for ChatGPT, because that was not my idea.

[Brooke]

I was wondering.

[Jeffrey]

All right, but I felt like you needed it. Anyway, I'm gonna dial her number, and let's see if she picks up.

[Ava]

Hello?

[Jeffrey]

Hi, is this Ava?

[Ava]

Yes, this is.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Who's speaking?

[Jeffrey]

Hey, this is Jeff. I'm on a radio show called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning.

[Brooke]

Yeah, the whole show's here. Ava.

[Alexis]

Good morning.

[Ava]

Hi, guys. How'd you get my number?

[Brooke]

Great question.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, we got it. From a guy who listens to our show.

We've been very eager to talk to you about this guy. Cause we know you two went out on a date recently.

[Brooke]

Two dates, in fact.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah. Doubles.

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Ava]

Who is it?

[Jeffrey]

It's a guy named David. And so.

[Ava]

Oh God.

[Brooke]

Oh.

[Alexis]

What do you mean oh God?

[Brooke]

So you're not calling him back on purpose?

[Ava]

Obviously. No response is a response, guys.

[Alexis]

Definitely.

[Jeffrey]

Ok, that's interesting. Why would you have such hesitation to see him again?

[Ava]

I can't believe you guys are calling me about this.

[Jeffrey]

Well, he asked us to call you because he's a little bit uncertain about what's happening between you two right now.

[Ava]

Well, I'm like new to the dating scene and I'm like dating around and I want to keep my options open. So why do I have to be locked in on one person that I wasn't that big of a fan of, you know?

[Alexis]

Does that mean you liked him a lot? So you were scared you were going to like him too much? You don't want to date anyone?

[Brooke]

She just said that she's not a big fan of trying to.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, it's good attempt, Jose. Totally fair for you to feel that way, Ava. We don't judge you on that at all. But if I told you that David has been dating for a little bit longer than you and he feels like he messed up.

[Brooke]

Oh, you're just going to.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, you could probably agree with me that everybody deserves a second chance.

[David]

What?

[Brooke]

What she says.

Jeff's really on a advice kick today. What's exactly going on? We don't even know why she's not a fan of him. Aren't you curious about that?

[Jeffrey]

I 100% agree with you, Brooke. And the perfect person to tell that is actually David himself, wouldn't she be.

[Brooke]

The perfect person to tell how she feels?

[Jeffrey]

Brooke, you don't understand how dating works. You've been married for too long.

[Lowe's Advertiser]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

Know that you're listening.

[Jeffrey]

No, it's not about healthy communication. It's about David explaining what's going on because he. I need to tell you.

[Alexis]

Communication, Ava.

[Jeffrey]

He's on the other line right now listening to this.

[Brooke]

Yay.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, great.

[Brooke]

Listening to what? I'm not sure because she hasn't said anything.

[Sophie Cunningham]

We didn't let her.

[Jeffrey]

I don't know if we want her to share anymore, but. David? David, are you there?

[David]

Hey you.

[Ava]

Ew.

[Alexis]

Hey, David.

[Brooke]

Alexis.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Sorry.

[Ava]

What is happening right now? Like, why are you doing this?

[David]

Well, I'm doing it to get under your skin. Aren't you mad at me?

[Old Navy Advertiser]

What?

[Brooke]

That's why you're doing it?

[Ava]

Yeah, I kind of am, but also, like, why?

[David]

Oh, gosh. I bet you want to get back at me, huh?

[Brooke]

What? I hate it.

[David]

You should probably have me over for dinner tonight.

[Ava]

Oh, my God, no. Because I don't want to have anything to do with you. I didn't even like hanging out with you. You were rude and disrespectful.

[David]

Well, you're right. I am that guy. I need to teach me a lesson.

Now.

[Alexis]

It's funny.

[Ava]

What is happening?

[Alexis]

Are you doesn't pick up any signs at all?

[Brooke]

I mean, David, are you trying to be funny right now?

[Alexis]

Yeah, that could be it.

[Jeffrey]

Look, he's just being playful, like what Chat GPT said to do.

[David]

It's icky.

[Brooke]

That's a good word.

[Alexis]

The girl's got the egg.

[Jeffrey]

Blame it on Chat. David, you're doing great. Keep going.

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David.

[Brooke]

Be yourself. Yeah, I fear this is him.

[Alexis]

That would be the word. Act was the first date.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, David, clearly, she. She feels like something weird is going on.

[David]

Okay, you know that story you told me about your ex cheating? You know, when you. On our first hangout, you said you caught your ex cheating, so, you know, to get back at him, you made him the best dinner ever. And then you, you know, you hooked up with him, and it was the greatest ever.

[Ava]

Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Are you serious right now? Wait, you thought that was going to happen to you?

[David]

Would it make you mad if I said yes?

[Jeffrey]

He's doing it again.

[Ava]

All right, first off, I dated that guy for a year, and I would never do that again.

[Alexis]

Oh, like if you want someone cheating.

[David]

You'D never do it.

[Brooke]

You're saying that you regret that revenge move? That wasn't really of.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, don't say that.

[Alexis]

Help the guys out there in the world.

[Brooke]

Probably demeaning.

[Ava]

You know, it's like, he didn't deserve that.

[Alexis]

Yeah, we were all like, dude, you gave him a treat.

[Brooke]

Yeah, the guys in the room, definitely.

[Alexis]

Yeah, the text board's kind of lit up.

[Jeffrey]

David, are you hearing her?

[David]

Yeah, and I. I didn't know that.

[Ava]

Well, now you do.

[Brooke]

Okay.

[Jeffrey]

All right.

[Brooke]

And so, yeah, David, you need to follow that up with something, like an apology or an idea moving forward. I'm not really that.

[David]

Okay, then I probably should tell you, like, after you told me that story, I was doing things to bug you on purpose because, you know, I thought it would work.

[Ava]

Are you, like, the biggest idiot ever?

[David]

I mean, I kind of feel like an idiot now.

[Ava]

Oh, my God. So hold on. Is that why you kept stealing my fries even though you had a plate of your own?

[Sophie Cunningham]

What?

[Brooke]

You had your own fries?

[Alexis]

Plate, David.

[Brooke]

I can take a big handful of his and put them back on my plate.

[Alexis]

Fry fighting Now, David, is there anything.

[Jeffrey]

That you want to say to Ava here?

[David]

Listen, I'm just. I'm just telling you I am a nice guy.

[Ava]

Oh, no, you're not. You stole my fries, and then you were just rude to me all night.

[Brooke]

Yeah, I mean, actions kind of speak louder than words right now. You'd have to, like.

[Alexis]

But that wasn't the real him, though.

[Brooke]

I mean, you'd have to have Ava give you another chance to prove who you really are.

[Alexis]

Yeah.

[David]

Oh, you mean, like, if she wanted to, you know, make me dinner one night?

[Jeffrey]

That's a nice action.

[Ava]

Yeah, that's not happening.

[Brooke]

Do you learn nothing?

[David]

It's just when you told me that story, it kind of got in my head, and it screwed me up. Like, it's kind of your fault for describing it the way you did.

[Brooke]

Oh, wow.

[Ava]

It's my fault that I was telling you a mistake that I made before, and then you were just trying to make me make the same mistake? Not happening.

[Jeffrey]

It was just a story. And I will be honest with you, Ava. Before we had you two together, he sounded very regretful.

[Brooke]

Yeah, so why isn't he sounding regretful right now? I think he chance you have the chance right now, David.

[Ava]

No, he's an idiot.

[Jeffrey]

Well, yeah. Yes, saying it, and he admits that. He admits that he's an idiot, and he feels that way. And that's why I think that you should be willing to give him maybe one more chance. And we'll even offer to pay for the next day. It'll be on us if you say yes.

[Ava]

Oh, nah, I'll pass.

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Ava]

Did you just hear this entire conversation? It's like I lost brain cells.

[Brooke]

You know how many people say that after coming on our show? Good point.

[Jeffrey]

But she didn't lose enough brain cells to say yes to another date. So I'm sorry, David, your strategy didn't work.

[David]

All right, guys, I appreciate it.

[Brooke]

All right, David, Just be yourself next time.

[David]

I will. And. And, Ava, if you're thinking about this tonight or tomorrow and it gets you really mad, oh, God. Give me a call.

[Ava]

Oh, trust me, I won't be thinking about it.

[Brooke]

Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.

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[Jeffrey]

Is it just a blanket statement that people should never talk about their exes on a first date ever?

[Alexis]

Yeah, sometimes people are like, yeah, my ex sucked, my ex sucked. And you bond over.

[Brooke]

Oh, I feel like this gives another reason as to why that's not a good idea.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, usually nothing good will come out of it, even if the backstory is super juicy. Yeah, I mean, yes, it's good for us, but not great for the daters.

[Brooke]

No, this guy, he just couldn't let it go. No, let it go, man.

[Alexis]

It's like he invented this whole scene in his head and it's like it's going to happen. It's like, dude, you're inventing this, imagining this.

[Brooke]

It's not you.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, but that. That all started with X's. What's a good subject to talk about on a first date? Brooke.

[Brooke]

Ooh. All of the second date podcasts that you totally binged from our. Wow, look at her. Ready?

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, yeah.

[Alexis]

Send them to Horror Dating stories or.

[Brooke]

The YouTube videos you watched at Brooke and Jeffrey.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, yeah, they're up on Apple, Spotify. Wherever you get your podcast, you're going to get revenge Bang so hard.

[Alexis]

After that, while listening to maybe a second Date Update.

[Brooke]

Whatever you need to do.

[Jeffrey]

Let's find them online at Broken Jeopardy.

[Sophie Cunningham]

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[David]

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[Jeffrey]

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[Brooke]

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[Jeffrey]

Now that's fancy. Pepperidge Farm Cookies. Fancy a taste?

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