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Jose
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Brooke
Yeah.
Jose
Here we are. Yeah. And today gets a little special.
Brooke
Spicy.
Jose
It's kind of fun. I think a lot of people are going to have some real strong opinions about the woman on the phone today.
Brooke
Yeah. Or the nickname that she's been given.
Jose
Yeah, yeah, that too. Welcome to. You have found the official place to find your second date podcast. It is Brooke and Jeffrey.
Brooke
Yeah.
Jose
And we're so glad you're here. Before we get to it, we always love to highlight our listeners. So what are people saying?
Brooke
Kiki Ray said in all caps. Brooke, what is going on? What you've started the stage in your life, which is usually for people either in church agreeing or older generations. Where did this come from and why?
Jose
I don't know. Now I'm in my head.
Brooke
In my head I know I could be doing it. How do you know it's me and not Brooke and me?
Jose
How do you know it's not Jeff? Maybe he has real feminine or Ashton in the background.
Abby
Yeah.
Brooke
Yes. All right, well, second, I think I'm
Jose
trying to be an active listener and maybe I'm trying too hard. I'll go back to caring less, I promise. All right, your brand new episode with all the.
Jeffrey
Mmm.
Jose
Next. No, now.
Brooke
Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Second date update.
Jeffrey
We don't normally ever do this, but I feel like today we have to issue a pre story warning to our own Jose Bolanos.
Jose
Oh, no.
Jeffrey
Because, well, the date that we're about to hear apparently involves one of Jose's all time favorite foods. Oh, my gosh. I can help. I know. See, I know. Jose, you're a foodie. You're going to be really excited and tempted to ask a million questions about the meal that this woman ate.
Jose
Tell us all the background of how they came up with the meal and who did it best and what country
Jeffrey
the origin is and what spoon is the best to eat it with. But let's try to remember to focus on the date itself. I mean, right now I'm thinking of all my favorite food. I know, I know.
Jose
From this side, just say he ordered chicken nuggets and we can move forward.
Jeffrey
It's not what it is. And it's our listener, Abby, who has requested our help today. So with that in mind, Abby, welcome to the show.
Abby
Hi, guys. Thank you.
Jose
I may dislike you depending on what you distracted Jose gets. And it. Don't take it personal. Okay.
Jeffrey
Yes. So before we even go down the food rabbit hole, let's just start at the top with the guy that you met. What's his name?
Abby
Yeah, so I met this guy named Carter.
Jose
Carter. Where did we find him?
Abby
I met him on Bumble, actually.
Jose
Okay. All right. What did you like about him?
Abby
So we bonded over a bunch of stuff, but my favorite thing about him is that he's a big foodie.
Jeffrey
Oh, see, people like it, Brooke.
Jose
I know, I know. I. I do like it when it's just you and I talking. Like, everybody else would find our conversation boring.
Jeffrey
Yeah, that's true. I can be overbearing. Okay, so he enjoys food. That's rare.
Abby
Yeah, actually.
Jose
Yeah.
Abby
It's not just food. It's good food. We're both, like, active people that really enjoy, like, eating good.
Jose
Dude, what a competition, though, because you have two foodies, so it's like one of you is probably constantly trying to impress the other.
Jeffrey
Yeah. Like, what's your favorite?
Jose
Yeah. Did you feel pressure to pick the perfect restaurant?
Abby
So he actually picked it, and it was. Oh, my God, it was so good. It was this, like, really nice, like, upscale ramen place.
Jeffrey
Ramen. Okay, Jose, calm down. Just relax. Yeah, Okay.
Abby
I love ramen. So I was very, very excited to go.
Jose
Okay. And did he know that already? I mean, that's thoughtful, right? He's a foodie. He's finding the spot that is a cuisine you like or a type of food you like.
Abby
Yeah, exactly. So I was really excited to go for both the food and for him because I was eager to meet him. So.
Jeffrey
Nice. So what was it like when you finally met up?
Abby
Oh, my God. So great. So I walk in and he just smiles this big smile. It's just like a. Like a nice, genuine smile that's like, hey, I'm good looking, but I don't really know it. I'm just happy to see you.
Jeffrey
You got all that from his smile?
Abby
Yeah.
Jose
How does he not know he's good looking?
Jeffrey
From his smile.
Abby
But, yeah, he was just really friendly. He's also really well dressed. Like, past couple dates I've been on, people are showing up in, like, T shirts and sweatpants and stuff. And I'm like, I actually, like, shaved my legs for this.
Jeffrey
He's got good clothes, a good smile. But what about, like, your connection? How was his personality?
Abby
I really liked his personality. So we got to talking and he actually was telling me about his job, which I still don't fully Understand? But he works in it.
Jose
Oh, yeah. You just kind of nod your head when anybody says it.
Abby
Right.
Jeffrey
Moving on. Next topic of conversation.
Abby
Yeah, Computers. Okay. And, like, he was telling me this story about, like, how when his mom asked what he did at his job, he kind of just told her that he, like, runs the Internet, which I thought was really funny and charming because he wasn't saying it's a brag or anything. I mean, it's just his mom, but, like, yeah, he's like, when those posts go viral, like, it's me that's deciding, like, when they go
Jeffrey
to the Internet.
Jose
Well, good, because we got some favors to ask him when we get him on the phone here in a second. We need some more viral content.
Abby
Yeah, he's Joe Internet, so I love it.
Jeffrey
So he's a guy who's really, really good with food. He's good with tech. He's handsome, but he doesn't even know it.
Brooke
Fashionable, too.
Jose
Was there any red flags on the date? Like, something that you did wrong or.
Abby
I feel like no. Like, I definitely remember talking to him about me moving. I just recently moved.
Jeffrey
Oh, but you're at your destination. You're not moving somewhere else.
Abby
Correct? Yeah.
Jose
I'm so impressed.
Brooke
We were all like, wait a second,
Jeffrey
that's gotta be it.
Abby
No, no, no.
Jeffrey
Well, that should be good, because then he can show you new places in the city.
Abby
That's what I figured. Like, that's kind of why I brought it up, too, because I did enjoy the restaurant so much. So we were just bonding over that and, like, how moving sucks and that kind of thing.
Jeffrey
Well, how did you two leave it at the end of the night?
Abby
Oh, so listen to this. So at the end of the night, there was a table next to us who was not very nice to the waiter. They were just, like, really high maintenance. And he was being so kind to our waiter, like, just asking where he's from. Just, like, being really bubbly and, like, joking with him and stuff. And the people next to us leave without leaving a tip.
Jose
No.
Abby
Yeah. So he takes money out of his wallet and puts it on the table next to ours.
Jose
What a nice guy, right?
Jeffrey
At least once in his life, this
Jose
guy is all green flag.
Abby
That's what I'm saying. Like, I don't. I don't understand. Understand at all. And on top of that, we left the restaurant. We're walking around the neighborhood because, like, I didn't really want to go home yet because I was having such a good time. He gave me a kiss. It was a Normal, like nice, sweet good night kiss. Left it at that. Said we'll be in touch. I was so elated that I was just like, nothing can go wrong here, dude.
Jose
And that's such a good feeling after the end of, like a perfect first date when you're just on this high. That feels so good.
Abby
Yeah, right? It was totally like a rom com.
Jeffrey
A ramen Common.
Jose
Hey, I almost like that.
Jeffrey
Okay, something's got to be up. If it went as well as she's saying it went, and there's no communication since, we got to help figure that out for her. So when we come back, we'll reach out to Carter and figure out what is wrong with this guy once and for all. There's got to be something.
Jose
Maybe the Internet went down and he's just been really busy fixing it.
Jeffrey
Yes, he's getting it back up and running. And we're going to find out what's going on with your second date. Update. Ramen Common edition.
Jose
Jeff likes.
Jeffrey
No, it kind of hurt me to say it. We'll work on it. We'll do it right after this. Hold on.
Brooke
Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Second date update.
Jeffrey
Interesting situation happened on a first date recently between our listener Abby and the guy she was having dinner with. Carter.
Jose
What was interesting? I mean, it sounds like they had a great time.
Jeffrey
Yeah, he seemed to be showing green flags all night long. And even when he spotted another table nearby that left without putting down a tip, he pulled out cash from his own wallet and paid on behalf of those rude customers.
Brooke
Wow.
Jeffrey
That's what everybody said. Wow, what a guy. Amazing. Green flag. But I want to pose a question that Brooke always asks me.
Jose
What's that?
Jeffrey
Who on earth carries cash on their person anymore? I'll tell you who. Drug dealers, street magicians who put their top hat down for tips, and conspiracy theorists who don't trust banks or digital forms of currency. So there you go. That's three possible red flags for you right there, Abby.
Jose
I would say two and a half in that list.
Jeffrey
Okay. Is it possible that Carter is a secret drug dealing, street magic, conspiracy theorist?
Abby
I mean, anything is possible, I guess, but I really didn't get that vibe.
Brooke
I don't know.
Jose
He did disappear and he does lie
Jeffrey
to his mom that he controls the Internet, so. No. Remember, he's green flags.
Jose
A druggie would say that.
Jeffrey
That's right. So I don't know. We'll find out what's really going on with him if he picks up phone, but I'm going to dial it right now. You Ready to do this, Abby?
Abby
I'm ready. Let's do it.
Jeffrey
All right, let's do it.
Carter
Hello?
Jeffrey
Oh, hey. Is this Carter?
Carter
Yeah, this is Carter.
Jose
Oh, he's typing. Can you hear that?
Jeffrey
Oh, yeah. Typewriter.
Jose
Are you at work?
Brooke
Is that a typewriter?
Jose
That can't be a typewriter.
Carter
Who am I speaking with?
Jeffrey
Sorry, this. We're a radio show. We're called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning. Hey. And we don't want to, like, derail your day, but we're really hoping to talk to you, if anything. We want to rail. Your day Who? A radio show? Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning.
Jose
We're also on the Internet. We're a podcast. We have a great YouTube channel.
Jeffrey
Has the Internet if he's on a typewriter.
Jose
Yeah, he is the Internet. Don't you remember?
Jeffrey
Oh, that's right.
Jose
He's it. Yeah.
Carter
How do you know. How do you know this about me, man?
Jeffrey
I mean, we heard about it from a girl that you went on a date with recently. A listener to our show and someone that really liked you. A girl named Abby.
Carter
Yeah, I don't know what to say.
Jose
Okay, could you just stop working for, like, literally three minutes right now?
Jeffrey
We won't take up too much of your time, but we're doing something called a second date update.
Carter
Let me save this first real quick. Hold on for a second. All right, go ahead.
Jeffrey
Now, we don't want to get in the way of your work, but we do want to get some answers for Abby about if there's a reason why after your date, you haven't really been talking to her very much.
Carter
I don't know if she wants me to share with you why.
Jeffrey
Actually, no, she does, which is why she reached out to our show, and she's willing to hear whatever the reason might be, even if it might make her look bad. She just wants to know.
Carter
So after the date, I was kind of on this. On this high, and I shared her picture with a few of my co workers after the date, you know, and some red flags came up.
Jose
What do you mean?
Jeffrey
Red flags that you didn't see on the date?
Brooke
You're trusting someone. It didn't work out with. With her, you know?
Jose
Wait, was it an ex? I thought it was just someone who knew her.
Carter
This person didn't date her. He just kind of knows about her.
Jose
Okay. Knows what about her?
Jeffrey
What information did you get?
Carter
Yeah, it seems that she's been engaged, like, four times.
Jose
Okay.
Carter
And has broken them off each time.
Jose
Okay, well, that. That can be good if it's not meant to be a marriage.
Brooke
I mean, better than getting married and then. Yeah, divorcing four times.
Jeffrey
What's a red flag to you about that?
Carter
Well, I mean, she's going through these relationships. What could possibly be wrong that she didn't continue? I mean, my friend called her the ring reaper.
Jose
That is so rude.
Brooke
I'm dying to know why she turned down the proposal.
Jose
Like, what happened? I want to know why she accepted in the first place. I mean, it's not her fault she's getting proposed to.
Jeffrey
Do you know the nature of any of these previous engagements and breakups that she's gone through before?
Carter
I have no idea.
Jose
Yeah, that's not fair. Like, I have a girlfriend who's gotten engaged a couple times, and, like. Like, two of the times the guy was cheating on her. Like, what would you want her to do with the marriage?
Jeffrey
But four times? I mean, that is a lot that really, to, like, get engaged and not go through it. Because maybe she has a bad picker, too, or she gets cold feet every
Jose
time she's really wanted. I've never been engaged to four times.
Abby
Yeah, a lot of guys want to marry her.
Jeffrey
Yeah, there's a reason for that.
Jose
She must be a good package.
Brooke
Yeah, something.
Jeffrey
I mean, clearly something is going on. Aren't you curious to know what that is?
Carter
Carter, I have to protect myself from all this stuff.
Jeffrey
Let's risk it, because she's actually on the line right now waiting to talk.
Carter
Oh, my God. Please tell me you're joking.
Brooke
No, the ring reapers here, we don't
Jeffrey
do jokes on this show.
Abby
Hi, Carter. That name is insane. And I. I literally don't even know what to say. You're taking advice from people who know. People who know. People who call me by a name. Silly, like, juvenile name. They don't even know anything about me.
Jose
She's got some points.
Carter
Are you saying you haven't been engaged four times?
Abby
You know what? I have. But also, I wasn't going to bring that up on a first date, number one. And number two, if you really liked me that much, maybe you would have, like, confronted me about it rather than ghosting me.
Jeffrey
Listen, Abby, whether or not it's justified for Carter, it's a red flag that you've been engaged four times and broken off all four of them. And maybe if you could just, like, tell us more about it, it would help him get some clarity.
Abby
Whatever. I. I didn't really want to disclose this, but. On the radio. But okay, so I was engaged four times to the same guy. Oh,
Jeffrey
Everybody owing like that.
Jose
Just because she's just. She's in one of those toxic yo yo relationships. No, everybody's been in one of those.
Carter
Okay, okay, I'm listening. So why didn't you guys go through with the commitment then?
Abby
It was a very long term relationship. I was not in a place to be engaged. And there was some infidelity on my side of it.
Jeffrey
Oh, wait, wait. You cheated?
Abby
Yeah. And to be honest with you, it's just because I was scared to be engaged. I was too young. I wasn't ready for commitment like that.
Jeffrey
But then you kept getting re engaged.
Jose
Why did he proposing? You guys, this sounds like it was a really toxic situation.
Abby
And just, you know, all four times that I was engaged, I cheated and it was because I was engaged.
Jose
Why are you reiterating this
Jeffrey
out there?
Abby
I'm just trying to be honest with everyone here. And to go even further, two of them happened at the altar and I'm not proud of it.
Jeffrey
You cheated on the altar? Aro you stopped wedding a priest is.
Jose
I think she made out with the official.
Jeffrey
Oh, God, no.
Abby
I just broke it up while I was up there, that's all.
Jose
Whoever your maid of honor is must have had such a headache made of dishonor. Girl, that is all right. That is messy.
Abby
Yeah, it is messy. And you know what? I've been unfaithful to fiance's Carter, but I guarantee you, I have never cheated on a boyfriend.
Jose
Oh, there we go. So. Or a husband. Or a husband. So just don't propose, Carter. And you're good.
Brooke
Yeah.
Jeffrey
We're not asking you to get engaged or to get married or anything. We're just asking if you want to go on one more date with Abby. Dude, do a foodie date again. Forget about all this. And if you are, we would pay for it.
Abby
Carter, I just really liked you. I thought we really hit it off. I have never felt this confident in a first date before. I think it would be stupid not to try it again. I. And I promise you it will not be a cheating situation if you don't propose to me tomorrow.
Jose
Come on. I don't know if you're gonna find a more honest person at this point.
Jeffrey
Oh, gosh. What do you think, Carter? We're running short on time. What is his friends gonna say if he says yes?
Carter
Yeah, I think I'm gonna pass.
Jose
Jose, you ruined it. You peer pressured him. He's trying to make a comment. I don't know if you heard me.
Carter
Carter.
Jeffrey
You just rejected the ring Reaper. How could you?
Jose
Which is not a very fitting name. It was the same ring, I think, over and over again.
Jeffrey
It' the ring re reaper.
Carter
Then I think I'm gonna put my junk in a vice and hit it with a hammer right now.
Jose
Oh, that is a wild thing to say.
Carter
Yeah, I'd rather do that than go back out with her.
Jose
Okay, well, Abby, you found out that he's into some things that maybe you
Abby
want to be into.
Brooke
Finally, the red flag for him.
Jeffrey
Okay, Abby, I'm sorry that that didn't work out, but we appreciate you being honest, like, extremely honest with everyone. Too honest if we've ever had a guest.
Abby
Yeah, I thought that would be, I don't know, the best approach, but apparently people don't like real life. I mean, that's what happened to me. That's my story. And it's true.
Jose
Well, yep.
Jeffrey
There's always a chance that you can get engaged to him a fifth time, so.
Carter
Oh, there's enough firefighters around. Just get engaged. One of them.
Jeffrey
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Jose
No. We're trying.
Jeffrey
Yeah. I mean, there it is. And you would think that a woman with a name like the Ring Reaper who's a self confessed serial cheater would get a yes. I mean, on this show, she just
Jose
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Jeffrey
Yeah. Over and over serially. But yeah, apparently engaged him over and over.
Jose
I don't know that he wasn't cheating too. I mean, that just sounded like a hot mess.
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Jose
I was glad that he gave us like five minutes of him not typing.
Brooke
Yeah, that's true.
Jeffrey
That was a big sacrifice for him to do. But you know what? We're going to keep trying. For all the daters out there, our job is to defend the listener regardless of how bad it makes us look.
Carter
True.
Jeffrey
Right, Brooke?
Jose
Sure. Yeah. Been doing this for over a decade now. Whatever.
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Podcast Date: May 15, 2026
Host(s): Brooke, Jeffrey, Jose
Guest(s): Abby (caller), Carter (date/callee)
This episode of Brooke and Jeffrey’s “Second Date Update” centers around Abby, who had what she describes as a perfect first date with Carter at an upscale ramen restaurant. After a magical evening full of chemistry and foodie bonding, Abby found herself ghosted—prompting her to call into the show and get to the bottom of Carter's sudden disappearance. What starts as a lighthearted food-centric story quickly takes a surprising turn when secrets about Abby’s romantic past are revealed, ultimately leading to a seriously awkward confrontation on air.
| Segment | Timestamp | Description | |---|---|---| | Ramen Date Recap | 04:57–09:51 | Abby recounts her “perfect” first date with Carter | | Tipping Incident | 09:15 | Carter tips for a rude neighboring table | | Rom-com Vibes | 09:53–10:01 | Hosts dub it a “ramen common” romance | | Red Flag Joke | 11:17 | Jeffrey theorizes about who carries cash | | Carter Joins | 12:14–13:32 | Carter describes his concerns and intel from coworkers | | Confession Segment | 16:03–18:45 | Abby reveals her engagement history and infidelity with the same ex | | Carter’s Rejection | 19:25–19:42 | Carter’s humorous but blunt decline of second date | | Host Reflections | 22:30–23:28 | Hosts recap and joke about the experience |
This “Second Date Update” episode delivers on its promise of high entertainment. Initially set up as a feel-good foodie matchmaking session, it swiftly pivots into a chaotic reveal about Abby’s “ring reaper” reputation—ultimately due to repeated engagements (and infidelity) to the same ex. The hosts handle the saga with their signature blend of humor and empathy, but Carter ultimately can’t look past the red flags, ending the saga with a memorable (if hard-hitting) rebuff.
If you like secondhand relationship drama with a comedic twist, “Ramen Common” is textbook Brooke and Jeffrey—with enough jaw-droppers and punchlines to make even an awkward date memorable.