Second Date Update: Red Flag Test

Summary

Episode Overview

Podcast: Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Episode: "Second Date Update: Red Flag Test"
Date: November 3, 2025

In this episode, Brooke, Jeff, and the team tackle another ‘second date’ mystery, helping listener James uncover why Chelsea has not responded after their promising first date. Employing their signature banter and a playful “red flag alert” sound effect, the crew analyzes every moment of James and Chelsea’s date to find out what went wrong—was it a small misstep, or a true deal-breaker? The episode dives deep into dating etiquette, communication mishaps, and the power of first impressions.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

The Premise (02:45–03:57)

• The show welcomes James, who reached out after being ghosted by Chelsea two weeks after their first date.
• Jeff introduces the “red flag alert” sound effect to highlight potential first date faux pas as James recounts his story.

James and Chelsea’s Date Recap (05:02–09:13)

• Meeting Context: Met on Bumble; connected over a love for hot sauce and dogs.
  • Jeff jokes about giving women all the power on Bumble: “It’s a medium. I’m always a little questionable giving girls all the power, but let’s keep going.” (05:33)
• Date Details: Went to a taco place with live music; James asked to change tables so he could hear Chelsea better due to some hearing loss from his drumming days.
  • Chelsea: “That’s good.”
  • Banter over whether changing tables is high-maintenance; group agrees it’s considerate.
• Shared Interests: Exchanged dog pictures and bonded further.
• Romantic Moment:
  • At the end, Chelsea drove James to his car; an awkward moment ensued when James, taller than Chelsea, kissed the top of her head instead of her lips.
  • Chelsea: “That is an awkward ending.” (08:42)
  • Brooke: “Were you just walking back to your car being like, God, why did I kiss the top of her head?” (09:13)

The Red Flag Analysis (10:39–11:49)

• Potential Issues:
  1. Requesting a table change (may seem high-maintenance).
  2. The awkward top-of-head kiss reminiscent of a fatherly gesture.
  3. No contact from Chelsea for two weeks.
• Hosts note these are possible, but not definitive, red flags.
  • Jeff: “The head’s awkward but that’s not a dealbreaker for sure.” (09:56)

Chelsea Answers the Call (12:35–15:49)

• Chelsea is surprised to be on a radio segment but plays along.
• When asked, Chelsea reveals she felt James was “pretty rude.”
  • Chelsea (on phone): “Yeah. Maybe he was his authentic self. If that authentic self is, like, pretty rude.” (13:48)
• The issue: Chelsea attempted to share a story she’d previously told James, and he interrupted her, saying, “Sorry to interrupt you, but you’ve already told me this,” and asked her to stop mid-story.
  • Chelsea (on phone): “He literally interrupted me and was like, sorry to interrupt you, but you’ve already told me this.” (15:13)

Panel Reactions (15:49–17:41)

• Split opinions:
  • Some hosts appreciate honesty about repeated stories.
    • Chelsea: “I appreciate it when people tell me I’m repeating myself.” (15:30)
  • Others argue it’s poor form, especially on a first date, and particularly with an emotionally vulnerable or sad story.
• Chelsea stands by her reaction, emphasizing it gave her “the ick.”

James Joins the Conversation (16:17–18:57)

• James explains he didn’t want to spend another 10 minutes hearing the same story, especially as it was a sad one and they were on a date to have fun.
  • James: “Yeah, but... it was a long story, and I didn’t want it to take, like, another 10 minutes. We were trying to have a good conversation.” (16:41)
• Chelsea insists he should have just let her finish, as she might “drop different Easter eggs” in her retellings.
  • Chelsea (on phone): “Maybe I like to retell my stories sometimes. Because sometimes you’re not listening to the full thing anyway... you’re going to get different Easter eggs every single time I tell it.” (17:11)
• The hosts note that being interrupted while emotionally vulnerable, especially early in dating, can sour the vibe.

The Final Straw & The “Ick” (18:03–19:45)

• Chelsea confirms the interruption killed her interest and caused her to reject a more romantic moment—thus the top-of-head kiss.
  • Jeff: “Is that the reason why, at the end of the night, you turned your head when he went in for a kiss and just got the top of your skull?” (18:05)
  • Chelsea (on phone): “Yeah, actually... after he interrupted me from telling my story, I just got the complete ick, and that was it for me.” (18:16)
• Jeff asks if there’s any chance for a second chance if James genuinely apologizes. Chelsea flatly declines.
  • Chelsea (on phone): “Yeah, no, it’s a no for me, but I think he should just take it as a learning lesson for his next date.” (19:12)

Final Words and Reflections (21:26–22:16)

• Hosts debate the outcome:
  • Chelsea: “If it was a debate like in high school, I think she won by one point.” (21:46)
  • Jeff: “...it felt like something you could definitely work through if you talked about it.” (21:53)
  • Chelsea: “I think this girl has zero patience.” (22:02)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Jeff launching the red flag technique:
  • “Anytime you hear that noise, we need to stop what we’re doing and discuss. Could she have maybe taken that the wrong way?” (04:19)
• James describing the awkward kiss:
  • “...she moved her head toward mine, and then I leaned down and kissed, like, the top of her head.” (08:14)
• Chelsea, explaining her annoyance:
  • “He literally interrupted me and was like, sorry to interrupt you, but you’ve already told me this.” (15:13)
• Chelsea, on storytelling rights:
  • “Maybe I like to retell my stories sometimes. Because… you’re going to get different Easter eggs every single time I tell it.” (17:11)
• Jeff, summing it up:
  • “So it sounds like she was looking for, like, a safe space to tell her truth, and you were like, no room for that.” (17:47)
• Chelsea’s firm rejection:
  • “Yeah, no, it’s a no for me, but I think he should just take it as a learning lesson for his next date.” (19:12)
• Hosts’ post-mortem banter:
  • Chelsea: “If it was a debate like in high school, I think she won by one point.” (21:46)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 02:45 — Episode start and intro of James’ case
• 05:02 — James recounts his first date with Chelsea
• 08:03 — The awkward head kiss moment
• 10:39 — Red/Green Flag segment recap
• 12:35 — Connecting with Chelsea for her side
• 13:48–15:13 — Chelsea describes being interrupted; identifies her “ick”
• 16:17 — James joins the conversation; explains his side
• 17:47 — Hosts discuss the power of emotional safety
• 18:16 — Chelsea explains why the “ick” is permanent
• 19:12 — Firm “no” for a second date
• 21:26–22:16 — Episode post-mortem and final commentary

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Summary & Takeaways

This episode is a classic “Second Date Update” blend of awkward, funny, and revealing. It shines a light on the small communication pitfalls that can make or break a budding romance—especially when expectations about listening and empathy diverge. The playful “red flag” game keeps the tone light, but the conversation also explores deeper questions about boundaries, authenticity, and forgiveness in dating.

Despite James’s nerves and honest intentions, one moment of blunt interruption proved to be an “ick” that Chelsea couldn’t get past—a small misstep with big consequences when mutual vulnerability is on the line.

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For more laughs and cringe-worthy moments, catch "Second Date Update" on Brooke and Jeffrey wherever podcasts are found.

Transcript

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[Chelsea]

You did it. You made it through the Halloween weekend. We're so glad you were here. It's Brooke and Jeffrey, and this is your second date update podcast. So thanks for listening to our full show yesterday, our Halloween show, which is always so fun. Fun.

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[Chelsea]

And you know, before we get to our brand new second date today, we do love to highlight some of your comments. Yes, Amelia said. This might sound creepy, but every day I sit in front of my laptop waiting until you guys upload a new episode. I'm a 17 year old entrepreneur in Ireland and I genuinely can't focus until I hear you guys screaming in my ear.

[Jeff]

Organized chaos in her ear.

[Chelsea]

I love it. Well, keep working hard out there, Amelia. That's rad. Thanks for being here. And your brand new second date starts right now.

[Jeff]

Sorry, I'd like to invest $5 in your startup company. Just want to put that out.

[Chelsea]

But us, right?

[Jeff]

Oh, darn it. I don't know. The conversion. Never mind. I'm backing out of our deal. Second date update. Welcome back to Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning. Another second date update. And just like many of our male listeners who come onto this segment, today's listener, James, says he has no idea if he did anything wrong on his first date.

[Chelsea]

I'm sure it was not his fault.

[Jeff]

No, probably not. And then she's like, well, he set my house on fire. And he's like, oh, wait a minute. I forgot.

[Chelsea]

You forgot to tell him that, Dawn.

[James]

That's a bad thing.

[Jeff]

But there is a gray area in there. That's why we're gonna implement this sound. Oh, that's an rfa. A red flag alert.

[Chelsea]

Oh, I like it.

[Jeff]

Anytime you hear that noise, we need to stop what we're doing and discuss. Could she have maybe taken that the wrong way?

[Chelsea]

Okay, who's in charge of the sound? You are, Jeff.

[Jeff]

That's a red flag. Don't question who's in charge in this room ever.

[Chelsea]

Brooke saying, the power is not in the right hands.

[Jeff]

Turn off Brooks Mike for the next 10 seconds. Thank you. Let's welcome. Let's welcome James to the show. James, how you doing, man?

[James]

Hey, what's up, guys?

[Jeff]

You don't have to be afraid.

[Chelsea]

I just tried to hear what his voice sounded like before I decided if it was a red flag to hit the button. I'm scared the button's gonna go off.

[Jeff]

Don't say anything weird. His fingers literally on the button. Yeah, no pressure. Just tell us how your date went with who calling today.

[James]

I. I went on a date with Chelsea.

[Jeff]

Chelsea. Okay. He remembered the name right away. I almost hit the. Hit the sound effects, but we're good on that. Do we have a green flag button?

[James]

There we go.

[Chelsea]

This is going to get annoying if we're getting styled. Please.

[Jeff]

All right, so tell us how. How did you meet Chelsea?

[James]

Okay, so we met on a dating app.

[Chelsea]

That's not a red flag. That's where people meet now, Jeff, I.

[Jeff]

I agree, but which dating app?

[James]

We met on Bumblebee.

[Chelsea]

No, that's a green flag. That's all right.

[Jeff]

No flag. Hands off the butt. It's a medium. It's a medium. I'm always a little questionable giving girls all the power, but let's keep going. What did you and Chelsea bond over when you first met?

[James]

Yeah, things were, like, pretty natural right from the start. And one of the things we bonded over was hot sauce. Like, we both love really spicy food.

[Jeff]

I heard hot cross, and I was like the recorder song. We all have hot cross buns. Yeah. Hot sauce. Hot sauce is awesome.

[Chelsea]

And such an easy transition to we need to go get spicy food together.

[Jeff]

Is that what you did? Did you lead it into, like, we should try some hot sauce somewhere?

[James]

Yeah, actually. And we went to this taco place.

[Chelsea]

Sweet. Nice.

[Jeff]

How did it go?

[James]

It was great. It was great. There was live music, so it was like.

[Chelsea]

That's fun.

[James]

It was a cool setting right off the bat, but it was really loud in there. And my hearing isn't the best because I played drums in my past, like, way too loud. And so my earring's kind of going. So I did ask the waiter if we could, like, move tables so I could hear her better.

[Chelsea]

Yeah, that's good.

[Jeff]

You might come.

[Chelsea]

Is that a red flag?

[Jeff]

You could come across as high maintenance. No. Former server. I think I remember people asking this. And sometimes it's actually nice because he's being considerate of her.

[Chelsea]

Totally.

[Jeff]

Now that Jose approves it. I agree. Hit the green flag. Yeah, Jose. Approved. Okay, keep going.

[Chelsea]

I want to hear something. Worse has to happen on this date eventually.

[Jeff]

You found a table that was quieter.

[James]

Yeah, it was quieter. And I like. We showed each other pictures of our dogs. We're both dog parents.

[Jeff]

Aww, that's nice.

[Chelsea]

Okay, so, I mean, you guys are vibing on all these different levels. I mean, was there anything awkward?

[James]

Yeah, exactly. Like, I felt like we really connected, and there wasn't anything awkward at all. At least not from what I could tell. Like, she was super cute, and we felt really comfortable talking to each other. I wasn't even, like, pretending and trying to be cool. I was just being myself.

[Chelsea]

Oh, that is so nice.

[Jeff]

Oh, no, Jeff's right. Hit the button. I'm sorry.

[Chelsea]

That is exactly what people want on a date.

[Jeff]

I know how it is. Once you get deeper into the relationship, a year, two years in, and the real you comes out, that's when everything turns on.

[Chelsea]

That's when you know you're with the right person, is when you feel like you can be fully yourself.

[Jeff]

And that's when your husband spits sunflower seeds all over the house.

[Chelsea]

It's a habit. That's annoying. It doesn't define who he is.

[Jeff]

It's the real him. Red flag. Okay, tell us this. Was there any romance happening between you? Any flirtations? Any kissing? There we go.

[James]

So, unfortunately, there wasn't a kiss, but not because I didn't try.

[Chelsea]

Oh, did you get turned down?

[Jeff]

Did she reject you?

[James]

Not really. Like, she drove me to my car because I kind of parked far away, and I'm, like, a good bit taller than her. So as I was getting out of her car, like, she moved her head toward mine, and then I leaned down and kissed, like, the top of her head.

[Brooke]

Oh.

[Jeff]

Was it awkward or cute? Because a forehead kiss could be cute.

[James]

It wasn't really her forehead. It was, like, the top of her head, like hair.

[Jeff]

Oh, my gosh. Yeah.

[Chelsea]

That's got so much hair in my mouth. Yeah.

[Jeff]

It's like you're kissing your kid before you send them off to school. That's not the vibe.

[Chelsea]

That is. That is an awkward ending.

[Brooke]

Totally.

[Jeff]

That's awkward for sure. And I totally could have buzzed you for not doing valet parking yourself, but I didn't do that. I'm giving you credit there.

[Chelsea]

Give yourself a great taco spot. Has very.

[Jeff]

Yeah. Good job, Jeff, for being understanding of other people's clubs. I feel really good about myself. Flag thing. Anyway, so after. After the head kiss, how did you two leave it?

[James]

Oh, I mean, that was it. Like, I just walked back to my car. She drove off.

[Jeff]

Oh.

[James]

And I haven't heard from her since.

[Chelsea]

Were you just walking back to your car being like, God, why did I kiss the top of her head?

[Jeff]

The worse. And you know, you blew it. Especially when you could have used tongue and you didn't. At least it shows that you're into it. I'm just gonna fix your part here with my tongue. There it is. It shows that you wanted it, but.

[Chelsea]

You missed red flag yourself.

[Jeff]

Green flag forever. And how long has it been since the awkward top of the head kiss?

[James]

It's been a solid two weeks.

[Chelsea]

Wow, that's a red flag. Finally, when we agree on any communication at all.

[James]

No, she hasn't texted me back. That's why I'm calling you guys. Hopefully you can help me. Like did I somehow turn her off or offend her or something? I don't know.

[Jeff]

Well, the head's awkward but that's not a deal breaker for sure.

[Chelsea]

Not use the sounders when we call her.

[Jeff]

Well, at that point she's just going to be telling us what her red flags were. So it's not going to feel good to buzz it. But if she answers the phone on the first try. Red flag. She should be. Yeah, that's a little bit too over eager. It could be a scammer call. I don't trust that. So hopefully she doesn't pick up for a few times, but when she does, listen for how many rings. Second date update, Red flag edition. We'll do it right after this. Hold on. Second date update. If you're just joining us for the second date update, we played a little game of spot the possible red flags.

[Chelsea]

Why would we not call it Red flag Green flag? And by we it was you hitting the button whenever you want.

[Jeff]

It was a fun time, wasn't it? And several potential flags did come up. One after they were seated and James asked the waiter if they could move tables farther away from the live synchronous.

[Chelsea]

So that he could actually hear her better. He wanted to listen.

[Jeff]

Could have come across as he's a high maintenance guy. Also, maybe she thinks he hates music. Nobody wants to date someone that's anti music. Second possible red flag happened when he went to kiss her, but she moved. So his lips touch the top of her head. AKA the proud father kiss. Not a move you want to be pulling. At least not on a first date. And then two full weeks with zero communication from Chelsea, Not a good sign. So it's all.

[Chelsea]

Yeah, the last two. I agree with Jeff because even if.

[Jeff]

You don't like a guy at all, you'll at least drunk text him at 2am One night. Right, Alexis?

[Chelsea]

Yeah, probably. Odds are high. Or accidentally like a photo on Insta or something.

[Jeff]

Exactly. Slip up will happen. So we are officially though, we're going to retire the red flag alert. That's the last one. It had a good run for at least half a segment, but from now on let's try. Just try to use our voices to talk and communicate like humans do. You're talking about.

[Chelsea]

Yeah. Why are you saying that?

[Jeff]

It's a group thing. Let's all agree together.

[Chelsea]

Just a you thing.

[Jeff]

All right. I'm on an island, so I will try to communicate all on my own. And I haven't heard at all from James. Yeah. James, are you still on the phone?

[James]

Yeah, I'm here.

[Chelsea]

Okay.

[Jeff]

Okay.

[Chelsea]

He's listening to your monologue is what he was doing. Yeah.

[Jeff]

Oh, okay. Green flag for being a good listener.

[Chelsea]

There we go. That's why you wanted the quieter booth.

[Jeff]

All right, let's just call Chelsea. We'll see if she answers. Here we go.

[Chelsea (on phone)]

Hello?

[Jeff]

Hi. Are we talking to Chelsea?

[Chelsea (on phone)]

Yes. Who's this?

[Jeff]

Hey, Chelsea. This is a radio show called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning.

[Chelsea]

Hi, Chelsea.

[Jeff]

We're a fun time.

[Chelsea]

Oh, feels forced.

[Chelsea (on phone)]

Okay. Hi. Why are you calling me?

[Jeff]

This is part of a segment we do called a Second Date Update where we're trying to get some answers for one of our listeners about why he hasn't heard from you since you met up for a date.

[Chelsea]

It was, like, two weeks ago.

[Brooke]

Me?

[Chelsea]

Yeah.

[Jeff]

Yeah, a guy you went out with named James.

[Chelsea (on phone)]

Oh, okay.

[Chelsea]

Remember Spicy James that loves tacos?

[Jeff]

Oh, Spicy James. I like that.

[Chelsea]

Yeah, thanks.

[Jeff]

He emailed us because he told us about your date, and honestly, he has no idea why you wouldn't be calling him back in the last couple weeks.

[James]

Wait, why?

[Chelsea (on phone)]

Why would I even tell you guys? Why would I go into this on the radio? This is so weird.

[Chelsea]

Because he's, like, disappointed. I thought it was, like, such a cool compliment. He told us that he felt like he could fully, totally be his authentic self around you.

[Chelsea (on phone)]

Yeah, okay, sure.

[Jeff]

Did you feel like that was the case?

[Chelsea (on phone)]

Yeah. Maybe he was his authentic self. If that authentic self is, like, pretty rude.

[Jeff]

Whoa.

[Brooke]

What?

[Jeff]

Rude?

[Chelsea]

That's so interesting. He didn't come across as rude to us at all.

[Jeff]

I felt like he was just too timid. Yeah. Since we did hear a few things that happened on the date, can we ask, was it when he asked to move tables to be far away from the singer that was annoying him?

[Chelsea]

That's not why he moved tables down?

[Jeff]

I don't know. I'm leaving it open for her to fill in the blank.

[Chelsea]

Not leading the witness at all.

[Jeff]

No, no. What do you. Chelsea, was it that.

[Chelsea (on phone)]

No, that was fine. That didn't bother me.

[Chelsea]

Yeah, because that was sweet. He said he wanted to able to hear you better so you guys could have some good conversation.

[Chelsea (on phone)]

Yeah, but it wasn't good conversation because he made me kind of mad.

[Chelsea]

Oh, my God. He has no idea.

[Jeff]

Yeah, we didn't hear any, like, any moment like that come up on your date.

[Chelsea (on phone)]

So him and I had been getting to know each other for kind of a while on the app, and, like, we did bond over our dogs, and we've been telling each other stories about our pets. And on the date with James, I started to tell him a story that I guess I had already told him and forgot, and he literally interrupted me and was like, sorry to interrupt you, but you've already told me this. And he wanted me to stop telling my story. Like, that's so rude.

[Chelsea]

That's interesting. Why do you think it's rude, though?

[Chelsea (on phone)]

What do you mean, why do I think it's rude? Yes. He interrupted me in the middle of my story and basically told me to stop telling the story.

[Jeff]

Oh, okay.

[James]

Okay.

[Jeff]

I mean, Brooke, would you like it if you were trying to tell someone a story and they were like, no, no, no, no, don't. I already know that.

[Chelsea]

I appreciate it when people tell me I'm repeating myself. I tell the same stories all the time.

[Jeff]

I get.

[Chelsea]

I get it.

[Jeff]

But it's kind of weird when it's like, this is your first face to face meeting, and they're like, yeah, I've already heard.

[Chelsea]

Okay. So I could see you being a little annoyed by that, but I can't imagine it being such a big deal. It's the whole reason you never want to see him again.

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[Chelsea (on phone)]

Big deal or not, it made me mad. I thought it was rude.

[James]

It gave me the ick.

[Jeff]

I ha. Interrupt. But you did already tell us that you made us mad. I'm just. We're kind of short on time is the only reason. Why? Because I have to let you know that James has been listening to this too, on the other line and wants to talk to you.

[Chelsea]

That's a new story she hasn't heard. Yeah.

[Jeff]

New information, right.

[Chelsea (on phone)]

Wait, he just heard all of that?

[Chelsea]

Yeah.

[Jeff]

Yeah. Theoretically, if he was listening. James.

[James]

Hey, Chelsea.

[Chelsea (on phone)]

Hi. Oh, my God.

[Chelsea]

What are you gonna lead with there, James?

[James]

Sorry, I had to go this radio route, but I just couldn't hear back from you. I didn't know what was going on.

[Chelsea]

And that's not why she's upset.

[Jeff]

Yeah, James, did you hear the part where she didn't like that you interrupted her story and said no? I've already heard that before.

[James]

Yeah, but. Okay, it was a long story, and I didn't want it to take, like, another 10 minutes. We were trying to have a good conversation.

[Chelsea]

Don't say that, James.

[Jeff]

So the story was too long for y'? All?

[Chelsea]

I was gonna say, if it was a long, boring story you already heard.

[Brooke]

I would cut someone off, too, to be honest.

[Chelsea]

But you have to think of a more creative way to do.

[Chelsea (on phone)]

Yeah, you thought my story was too long and boring.

[James]

Not boring. It was just so sad. Like when you told me on the app about your dog you grew up with and what happened. Like, it was really sad, and I didn't want.

[Chelsea (on phone)]

Okay, but you should let me finish the story. Like, maybe I like to retell my stories sometimes. Because sometimes you're not listening to the full thing anyway. Every single time. So you're going to get different Easter eggs every single time I tell it.

[Jeff]

That true. I may remember another fact that I forgot last time I told them.

[Chelsea]

And not only that, but if it's a sad story, you don't interrupt somebody who's being emotionally vulnerable like that. That I can see, James, where. Maybe that was the bad timing, but.

[James]

We were trying to have a good, fun night. Like, why bring it down? I didn't want that.

[Chelsea (on phone)]

Yeah, and you ruined that.

[Jeff]

So it sounds like she was looking for, like, a safe space to tell her truth, and you were like, no room for that.

[Chelsea]

And a green flag right now, James, would be you just owning that mistake and apologizing, not trying to make excuses for it.

[Jeff]

Right.

[Chelsea]

Or downplay her feelings.

[Jeff]

And, Chelsea, can I ask you. Is that the reason why, at the end of the night, you turned your head when he went in for a kiss and just got the top of your skull?

[Chelsea (on phone)]

Yeah, actually, after he interrupted me from telling my story, I just got the complete ache, and that was it for me.

[Jeff]

Kiss my top. Not.

[Chelsea]

Okay.

[Jeff]

Can you.

[Chelsea]

Are you a person that has ever come back from an ick.

[Chelsea (on phone)]

No.

[Jeff]

If he agreed to listen to your story in its entirety the next time you met up, just to make up for it, I mean, would that.

[Chelsea]

No.

[Chelsea (on phone)]

Because then I would just be thinking the whole time, have I told the story? Or is he bored? Or, like, yeah, it's just not gonna work.

[Chelsea]

She keeps making points that. I can see what she's saying.

[James]

Yeah, you know, I know. I feel the same way. There's, like, nothing I can say here.

[Chelsea]

Maybe say, sorry.

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[Chelsea]

You will never do it again.

[Jeff]

I know what I want to say. I want to ask if you two will go out on another date again, and we'd be willing to pay for it, but that's really comes down to you Chelsea, if you're willing to give him one more chance.

[Chelsea (on phone)]

Yeah, no, it's a no for me, but I think he should just take it as a learning lesson for his next date.

[Chelsea]

Okay, well, Chelsea, maybe.

[James]

Maybe you should learn, like, how to read a room and not like, bring the whole room down.

[Jeff]

You're not backing down? No.

[James]

She's being rude to me. She's not even giving me another chance.

[Chelsea]

This theory is about, like, her childhood dog dying or something. That's what it sounds like.

[Chelsea (on phone)]

No, I rescued him from a tree and then he fell and died.

[Chelsea]

Oh, my God.

[James]

Wow, Brooke.

[Jeff]

Why would you even bring that up?

[James]

Brooke.

[Chelsea]

Yeah.

[Jeff]

Red flag for the segment.

[Chelsea]

I deserve that one.

[Jeff]

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[Brooke]

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[Jeff]

All right, listen, I'm sorry I had to bring back the red flag alert out of retirement at the end there, but Brooke crossed the line. We all agree we needed that. Yeah, you had to get her. You had to zapper with.

[Chelsea]

No one else wanted closure on what happened?

[Jeff]

No, no, I don't think we needed any more details.

[Chelsea]

Kind of trusted there was a reason he cut the story off.

[Jeff]

Yeah, it was a little bit hard because I felt like actually both of them had decent points in the conversation.

[Chelsea]

I mean, if it was a debate like in high school, I think she won by one point.

[Jeff]

Oh, yeah.

[Chelsea]

You know what I mean? It was close debates.

[Jeff]

Yeah, she came out on top. But I also think that they probably should have gone out again because it felt like something you could definitely work through if you talked about it. Yeah, totally.

[Chelsea]

I think this girl has zero patience.

[Jeff]

She should have brought it up during the date and said, sorry, I think it's rude for you to interrupt me telling my story again. And they could have quashed it right there and moved on.

[Chelsea]

Nobody likes doing that, Jeff.

[Jeff]

Yeah, that's confrontation.

[Chelsea]

Yeah, that's true.

[Jeff]

But if you want to hear all of our stories, the second date ones are awkward Tuesdays. All of our content is up online. You can check it out wherever you get your podcasts at. Brooke and Jeffrey. Hey, it's Ryan Seacrest for Albertsons and Safeway this fall. Take care of the little ones in the family with Baby Club Savings now through November 4th. Spend $25 on select Baby Club products and save $5. Shop for items like Pedias shore bottles, Pedialyte powder packs, Huggies baby wipes, Huggies diapers, Gerber puffs and Gerber pouches. And save $5 when you buy $25 or more on participating products. Offer ends November 4th. Restrictions apply. Offers may vary. Visit Albertsons or Safeway Details.

[Chelsea]

Every now and then I rinse it out and I need yummy rinse tonight.

[Jeff]

And I need it more My kid went and the smell never leave.

[James]

I.

[Jeff]

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[Chelsea (on phone)]

So we're sitting like, oh God, what do we do?

[Brooke]

What do we do?

[Jeff]

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[Chelsea]

I live below a cult leader and I fear I've angered her.

[Jeff]

Wait a minute, Sophia, how do you know she's a cult leader?

[Chelsea]

Well, Dakota, luckily it's I'm Not Afraid of a Scary Story week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my neighbor has been blasting music every day and doing dirt.

[Jeff]

Rituals, and now my ceiling is collaps to report them.

[Chelsea]

But things keep getting weirder. I think they might be part of a cult.

[Jeff]

Hold up a real life cult? And what is a dirt ritual? No clue, Dakota.

[Chelsea]

Find out how it ends. Listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever.

[Jeff]

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