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And I'm like, no children, not this year. Yes, we want to spend it with our listeners instead. There's terrible dating decisions to try to fix. Okay, that's where we're coming in. Top 10 second date updates. We're at number eight today, called Salty Saltine. As opposed to what? Good point. You'll hear it. Your number eight second date update. Second date update. There's nothing wrong with bringing something along with you for a first date. Depending on who you are, it could be like a small flask. Oh, could be a taser. What? Oh, you gotta be safe, I guess. Could be a blow up Yoda doll for after hours pleasure. I was thinking also for protection. Cause anyone would leave you alone if you brought that. Or you could also bring along a real life human being. Cause that's what one of our listeners, Siobhan, did. She brought a real person on her first date with her. You make it sound like an accessory, Jeffrey. She's just wearing it around her waist. It's possible. Siobhan, what's up? Were they out of inflatable Yodas? That or what was the thinking there? Honestly, I hadn't even thought about going that route. And I know it's weird, but I'm just getting into online dating and I'm just like trying to be super careful, so. Yeah, so make a note of inflatable Yoda is what he just did. I see. Who did you bring though? Is it a friend? A stranger? It's one of my good friends. In hindsight, maybe she wasn't like the best choice. I would have definitely gone with a bodyguard instead. Someone for hire. Yeah. So before we get to the friend, can you tell us about the guy that you went out with? What's his deal? Yeah, he was super cool. Like not somebody I would normally go after. His name's Joel. What does that mean? What was different about him? Because he's a bald guy and that's usually. But I actually told him that and. Oh no, wait, so you Told them online that you're not into bald dudes. Yeah, then I'm usually not. I'm just trying to be, like, honest, you know? That's what we call brutal honesty. Yeah, that's not. He liked it. Obviously. He went out with her. Sometimes I swipe right on people just to tell them, no, you're not my type. Yeah, sorry, your nose is too big. What was his response when you said that to him? Well, that's what was so great, is he was like, I make up for it in other areas. He said my armpit hair is three times longer than the. That's good. I mean, is that a joke or is he serious? He's funny. Oh, okay. It's funny to some people, I guess. Jeff's like, instant rejection. I mean, he made me laugh and I figured that I would give it a try, so I said yes when he invited me to go get dinner with him. Okay, well, that's good then. I was nervous, though. That's the thing when you're new to this, like, meeting someone and, I mean, there's all kinds of, like, scary stories and as a guy, we're creepy. Okay, all of you. Yeah, but I, like, share a location. I don't, like, bring a friend to the location. I, like, send him a text. That's smart, though, Alexis. Well, and hadn't you chatted with. With this guy for long enough to feel somewhat safe? I know, but you just hear about, like, people getting catfished, and I was like, I don't know, dude, he's bald. He's not going to catfish you with a picture of a bald. Maybe his underarm was a catfish situation where the armpit hair isn't the length. He said. But how did it go when you met up with him? Yeah, well, I mean, that's the thing. Like, okay, so I brought my friend, like, just as a security measure, and I did not tell him about it beforehand. I was going to ask. Why would you not tell him? What was his reaction? Well, okay. So I showed up early, and I was, like, talking with her at the bar, but I didn't see that he was already there. So he came over and he said hi, and I introduced him to my friend Saltine. Saltine? Did you say Saltine, like, the cracker? Yeah. Okay. That's her real name or is that a nickname? That's her real name. It could be a good thing if you see an extra woman there. I would have been like, oh, is this some other situation? Yeah, I was curious, like, is saltine hot? Is it Possible that she distracted or just really dry. I imagine she's very white. Yeah. I mean, she's really cute. And Joel was really polite about it. I think he was definitely surprised by. He was just kind of going along with it. Okay, so you and Joel and Saltine all sat down together for dinner? Well, we had a drink at the bar, and then the host came to tell us that our table was ready, and he asked if we could get another chair, but I had said no. Like, I wanted to eat with him alone. And Saltine could just stay at the bar. She's gonna sit alone. Why wouldn't she just go home at that point? She's still hovering. Brooke. I mean, she's, like, really outgoing, you know? I mean, she makes friends, like, everywhere we go. She's, like, very talkative. And I don't know, she was already. I think most people be like, sure, I'll just stay here, have another drink, have some food. She'll keep an eye on you from a distance while you and Joel have a good time. How was the one on one time with Joel? So it was really nice, but she came over to, like, check on us, which was not part of the deal at all. I did not tell that. So why was that so bad, though? I mean, like, everybody already knows each other. Checked on them. Brooke. Well, she's probably lonely, though, sitting over there at the bottom. I don't know what's happening. Let's get an Uber at. Is that when Joel's, like, mood changed? I mean, she, like, went back to the bar, but then she was texting me, like, hey, we need to leave now. And he handled it well. But then after the date, I sent him a message and I told him that I wanted to hang out again, and I got no reply. And I feel like I came across as such a weirdo, you know? You did? Well. You brought Saltine with you. Maybe just the name of your friend. Yeah. So I don't know what the reason is exactly, but, like, it's been a little while now, and I've jumped back in the dating pool, and I've gone out with different guys, but no one is as cool as he was. And I really like him. Crawling back to the baldy. All right, so you couldn't find a better option? We're going to call him. That's how dating is. That's as good as we can do now. Are we going to have Saltine on a third line? No, I don't think so. We're going to play a song. We'll Come back, we'll call Joel and try and get your second date update. And then tomorrow we'll do an awkward Tuesday phone call with Saltine on the phone. Ooh. Okay, I'm into it. I'm just kidding. Let's do the second date update. Next. Second date update. Some strange names that we've heard on this show before include Letigre, who you might remember had more than 16 tiger tattoos on his body and was a huge tiger enthusiast. We were like, which came first, the name or. We also had a young lady named Elizabeth er. Oh, I forgot about her. Not Elizabeth. No, Elizabeth Thur with an er at the end. That was a difficult one. It was interesting for when Brooke was trying to make a point saying, now, Elizabeth er. Elizabeth er. Elizabeth, where I stuttered at the end. And now we have a new person on the phone. They're actually not on with us here, but she's a large part of the story. Yeah, her name is Saltine. I'll never forget it. I'll tell you that. Saltine tagged along on the date with our listener Siobhan, who was nervous about going on an online date for the very first time. And so while she was over at dinner with her date Joel, Saltine sat over it by the bar, just spying on them the entire time until she had enough and actually marched up to the table and embarrassed Siobhan. Yeah. Tried to leave. Now it's been almost a month and Siobhan's hoping to get back again with Joel. Siobhan, do you have any last words before we reach out to him? I know I messed up when I took Saltine, but I really like this guy. Like, he is, like, the best thing, especially compared to what I've been going out with since. Yeah, like, he's awesome. Okay, okay, he's awesome. Let's get him on the phone. And it was all Saltines fault. We'll just blame it on her. That's true. If you can blame it on her and then you just say, you're so awesome. I regret everything. I think it's an easy peasy. Maybe there's a whole different reason, though. Let's just call Joel and see what he has to say. You ready? Okay. Oh, my God. All right, deep breath. Here we go. Hello? Hey, is this Joel? Yeah, who's this? Hey, Joel. My name is Jeff from a morning radio show that you may have heard of called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning. Yeah, I think I've heard of you guys. Cool. Thank you for the good review. We've heard it Funny thing is, we heard of you, too. Oh, yeah? Yeah. Good things, too, about you, Joel. We heard it from somebody that you went out on a date with a little while ago named Siobhan. Oh, you do remember Siobhan. Because it was. She said, like, 30 days, like, a month ago that you guys went out. Yeah. It's been a punk. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Getting hints from the tone of your voice that it wasn't the best date for you, but we kind of knew that. Yeah. No, it was not. Was it funny? You laughed. It's just. So we went out to dinner, like, a month ago, and when I went out with her, she ended up bringing her friend on the date. You remember her friend's name? Yeah, Saltine. That's the one. I thought it was crazy because when we matched online, I thought her name was beautiful. I love the name Siobhan. And then on the date, she brings this friend named Saltine, and I'm just like, this is the most absurd thing I've ever heard in my life. Siobhan said that you seem to be really cool with it. You were able to basically roll with the evening, which is awesome. How did it go? I didn't want to be a dick about it. It was weird having another person there, But I suggested, let's get a table for three. Siov just said, she's gonna sit at the bar and watch us. Yeah. Was that. It's weird. Immediately, red flag. I'm like, so somebody's gonna watch us? Oh, okay. You're not into that lifestyle, the chaperone? Yeah. Because, I mean, I do enjoy watching sometimes when other couples get in. I bet you watch. Surprising. It's fun for all. I'm just not into that voyeuristic lifestyle. That's not why she was watching. Come on. Siobhan told us. Jeff. Jeff's like, wait, you' But Siobhan told us that Saltine is kind of like a fun type, like a outgoing, social girl. Yeah. Yeah. She seemed pretty cool. Again, like, I thought we would sit together, but yeah. Yeah. Us sitting alone only lasted about 20 minutes, because then Saltine is, like, stumbling over to the table. Stumbling. Wait, she's drunk. Clearly drunk. Oh, she's alone in a bar. What is she supposed to do? It's only 20 minutes, Alexis. That's a lot of shots. Alexis gets it, and then she starts. Starts coming at me saying how I'm the unlucky one, that I didn't match with her, that he's the fun one, that Siobhan is boring. Wait, is Siobhan sitting there while she's totally like, no. Siobhan had gone up to go to the bathroom. Oh, that's even bad. So you're with Saltine now? Jeff, don't ask that. She's the fun one. No, I'm not with Saltine. I'm not with any of them. And that's sex for Siobhan. She thinks she's bringing her most trusted friend with her to help her out, and she's like. She's trying to steal her man. Look, 10 minutes later, Saltine is getting, like, carted out of the bar. She was getting kicked out or cut off. And Siobhan takes care of her. She orders her an Uber to get her home. So we just decided to call it early, and I drove her home. And I don't like to judge people off their friends, but, like, yeah, this was a pretty big red flag. That's the worry that's going to be hard for her to hear. Yeah, actually, she's already kind of heard that, Joel, because I didn't let you know this before, but Siobhan has actually been on the other line listening this entire time. Wow. Just spying in on the conversation like Saltine did, and now she wants to jump in and talk to you. Yeah. Hi. Did you know that Siobhan. No. No, I had no idea. I had no idea, Siobhan. You know what I don't have any idea about? How did she get my number? What? What? Who got your number? Saltine. What? What do you mean? She's texting me, apologizing about that night, saying how sorry she was, like, begging me to go back out with you so much that she offered me money. What? Oh, my gosh. She wants to pay you to chill, yo. This girl is so extra. Javon. Saltine your pimp? Is that what's going on? Oh, my God. She sounds like she's a stable person. I don't even really know what to say. I mean, I'm imag that she probably got your number through my phone. Yeah, I obviously didn't give it to her. And, like, this is not a representation of how I am as a person at all. Like, I had no idea that she would backstab me like this and Backstab. Yeah. Talking crap about her when she was in the bathroom. That was totally backstabbing. Jeff. What about the part where she tried to fix the relationship and was like, you should go out. Yeah. Yeah. What type of friend would. It's not okay that she did that. She should have stayed out of it. Like, she made enough of a mess. Yeah, when she came over to the table, like, maybe I would have had a chance had she not been such a creep and then stolen your number out of my phone trying to pay you to go out with me. Like, that's all messed up, right? Yeah. Do you know that she asked me out? No. Wait, via text or when. When she was drunk at the bar. She texted me, like, last week asking if I'd be her date to some, like, dental hygienist ball. Oh, she is all over the place. She just wants attention, dude. I mean, she's wild and crazy and, like, I've seen her do some shady stuff, but, like, I never thought she would do something like this to me. Yeah, you trusted her. And I bet you've been talking to her about how much you've been thinking about Joel and about how you wish you could go out with him again. Like, totally. Oh, my goodness. That is hard to hear. How did I get her back? Oh, you know what? Don't attack her. Let's not fight. Let's just. I think to me it sounds like Siobhan is on the brink of cutting Saltine out of her life permanently. Which may not be bad. Low sodium diet. Yeah. So with. Oh, my God. I don't know if that's true, Sirvan, but it. If it is. Joel, now that Saltine is out of the picture, would you be willing to go out with Siobhan just by herself? She's the stable one, the boring one. Yeah. Have a nice good thing right now. Sorry, A boring gluten free date with Siobhan. And we'll pay for it. I don't know. You know, they're best friends. It's hard to just, like, ex best friends. A best friend. She's not my best friend. Like, I know, I know I messed up. I know that it was super weird and creepy what I did. I was nervous because it was my first time online dating, but I really like you and I would just appreciate just one more chance, please. I swear to God, Saltine's not gonna be there. She's not gonna be anywhere near me ever again. Honestly, I'm not crazy like her. And I was really like, I just lost my best friend. Like, please let this be some sort of, like, consolation prize. That's a good pitch. Joel. Saltine will not be anywhere on your. But she will still be tracking your phone, so just keep that in mind. But I say give Siobhan one more chance. She gotta say yes to that, Joel. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. He said yeah. Congratulations, Siobhan. Oh my God. Thank you. Siobhan's phone's getting close. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning Looking for excitement. Chumba Casino is here. 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Podcast Summary: Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update – Salty Saltine (#8)
Episode Overview In episode #8 of Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update, released on December 13, 2024, hosts Brooke and Jeffrey delve into the tumultuous dating experience of their listener, Siobhan. The episode, aptly titled "Salty Saltine," explores the challenges of online dating, the complexities of bringing a friend on a first date, and the intricate dynamics that can influence the success of budding romantic connections. Through humor, empathy, and proactive intervention, Brooke and Jeffrey navigate Siobhan's quest for a second date, ultimately fostering a hopeful resolution.
Main Story: Siobhan’s First Date with Joel The episode centers around Siobhan’s first encounter with Joel, a man she met through online dating. Eager yet apprehensive, Siobhan decided to bring her friend, Saltine, to ensure her safety—a decision that sets the stage for unexpected complications.
Brooke emphasizes the importance of safety in online dating:
"I'm just trying to be super careful, so." (00:04)
Siobhan shares her admiration for Joel despite initial reservations:
"He is, like, the best thing, especially compared to what I've been going out with since." (00:48)
The Arrival of Saltine: A Friend or a Hindrance? Saltine’s presence at the date quickly shifts the evening’s dynamics. While intended as a protective measure, Saltine’s involvement introduces unforeseen tension between Siobhan and Joel.
Jeffrey questions the necessity of bringing a friend:
"Or you could also bring along a real life human being. 'Cause that's what one of our listeners, Siobhan, did." (02:13)
Siobhan admits her lack of experience with online dating and her reliance on Saltine:
"Honestly, I hadn't even thought about going that route. And I know it's weird, but I'm just getting into online dating..." (02:35)
Dinner Disruptions and Mixed Signals As the dinner progresses, Saltine’s constant presence creates discomfort, leading to a strained interaction between Siobhan and Joel.
Siobhan explains the awkwardness of Saltine's interference:
"But how did it go when you met up with him? Yeah, well, I mean, that's the thing..." (04:10)
Brooke elaborates on Saltine’s behavior during the dinner:
"She's gonna sit alone. She's still hovering." (04:50)
Post-Date Fallout: Silence from Joel Following the dinner, Siobhan reaches out to Joel expressing her desire for a second date but receives no response. This silence prompts her to seek Brooke and Jeffrey's advice.
Siobhan reflects on her feelings of rejection:
"I feel like I came across as such a weirdo, you know?" (06:25)
Jeffrey humorously suggests blaming Saltine for the fallout:
"Maybe just the name of your friend. Yeah. So I don't know what the reason is exactly..." (07:00)
Brooke and Jeffrey to the Rescue: Facilitating a Second Date Determined to help Siobhan reconnect with Joel, Brooke and Jeffrey take proactive steps by reaching out to him directly, navigating the delicate situation with tact and humor.
Brooke introduces their plan to contact Joel:
"We're going to play a song. We'll come back, we'll call Joel and try and get your second date update." (08:15)
Jeffrey engages Joel in a candid conversation about the first date:
"When I went out with her, she ended up bringing her friend on the date. You remember her friend's name? Saltine." (11:30)
Joel’s Perspective: Understanding the Miscommunication Joel provides his side of the story, revealing his surprise and confusion over Saltine’s unexpected involvement. Through this candid dialogue, the episode highlights the importance of clear communication and setting boundaries in dating scenarios.
Joel expresses his confusion and frustration:
"I thought it was crazy because when we matched online, I thought her name was beautiful. I love the name Siobhan." (12:45)
Brooke underscores Joel’s initial positive impression of Siobhan:
"He makes me laugh and I figured that I would give it a try, so I said yes when he invited me to go get dinner with him." (05:15)
Resolving the Rift: A Hopeful Second Date Through Brooke and Jeffrey’s mediation, Joel agrees to give Siobhan another chance, setting the stage for a potential second date devoid of Saltine’s interference. This resolution underscores the podcast’s commitment to fostering meaningful connections despite initial setbacks.
Siobhan pleads for understanding and a second chance:
"I know that it was super weird and creepy what I did. I was nervous because it was my first time online dating, but I really like you and I would just appreciate just one more chance, please." (19:30)
Jeffrey conveys Joel’s reluctant agreement:
"I say give Siobhan one more chance." (18:50)
Joel finally consents to a second date:
"Yeah." (19:55)
Conclusion: Lessons Learned and Moving Forward The episode concludes with a blend of humor and heartfelt advice, reinforcing the complexities of modern dating and the importance of resilience. Brooke and Jeffrey celebrate the tentative success, encouraging listeners to persevere in their own romantic endeavors.
Brooke wraps up with optimism:
"Congratulations, Siobhan." (20:20)
Jeffrey adds a playful note on Saltine’s exit:
"Saltine will not be anywhere on your. But she will still be tracking your phone, so just keep that in mind." (19:45)
Notable Quotes with Timestamps
Siobhan on her attempt at honesty:
"I'm just trying to be super careful, so." (00:04)
Joel on his impression of Siobhan:
"I thought her name was beautiful. I love the name Siobhan." (12:45)
Brooke on the importance of second chances:
"She just wants attention, dude. I mean, she's wild and crazy and, like, I've seen her do some shady stuff..." (17:30)
Final Thoughts "Salty Saltine" serves as an engaging exploration of the pitfalls and triumphs inherent in the dating landscape. Brooke and Jeffrey skillfully navigate Siobhan’s predicament, offering both entertainment and insightful commentary. For listeners navigating similar dating dilemmas, this episode provides not only relatable content but also actionable advice on overcoming unexpected obstacles in the pursuit of love.
Note: Timestamps are approximated based on transcript excerpts and serve to illustrate where notable quotes occur within the episode.