Second Date Update: So Turned On

Summary

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Episode Overview

Podcast: Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Episode Title: So Turned On
Air Date: February 25, 2026

The main theme of this episode revolves around an unusual romantic misconnection. The hosts help Chris, a listener who felt an intense connection during a quirky first date at Popeyes with a woman named Lisa. After Lisa ghosted him, the hosts reach out to understand why—only to discover a wild twist involving Lisa's unconventional relationship agreement.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Chris’s First Date Recap (03:57–08:31)

• Initial Impressions:

  • Chris connected with Lisa via a dating app; she was the one pushing for an immediate in-person meet.
  • She suggested Popeyes as the date spot, which Chris found surprising but fun.
  • Chris was charmed that Lisa looked "exactly like her photos" and was as cute in “fast-food lighting” (06:56).

• Quirky Highlights:

  • Lisa playfully made chicken tenders "walk" across the table, turning them into dancing legs, which amused Chris and signaled her fun, lighthearted personality (07:03).

• Date’s End:

  • The date lasted about 30–40 minutes; Lisa was warm and flirty—touching Chris’s hand, making lots of eye contact.
  • When Chris leaned in for a goodbye kiss, “her fingers are on my lips, stopping me. She says to me, ‘naughty boy,’ and literally moves my lips with her hand to her cheek. I don’t know, it must have been the control, but that was the most turned on I’ve ever been” (08:10).
  • Chris admits, “I know she was saying no to the kiss, but I was like, whatever you want” (08:27).

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2. Chris Gets Ghosted (08:47–09:48)

• After the date, there was brief texting but then complete radio silence from Lisa for four days.
• Chris feels the loss of connection keenly (“The chicken’s gone cold”—Brooke, 08:59).
• The hosts hypothesize Lisa either wants to slow things down, or is deliberately ghosting Chris.

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3. Lisa’s Side of the Story – The Shocking Twist (11:53–17:59)

• Initial Contact:

  • Lisa answers the call and recalls the Popeye’s date.
  • She admits she liked Chris, confessing “I do want to see him again, and I had a great time. It's just... that's not my specific situation” (13:23).

• Major Revelation:

  • Lisa admits she has a boyfriend—and he enjoys watching her go on dates with other men as part of their relationship dynamic.
  • “My boyfriend likes it when I go on dates with other guys... he goes on the date, too, and he watches” (13:35).
  • “He was, like, in the restaurant at the same time” (14:08). Her boyfriend was present, observing the date discreetly.

• Boundaries Defined:

  • Lisa asserts there is a rule: “A kiss on the cheek is as far as it can go” (14:49), explaining her “naughty boy” moment with Chris.

• Host and Listener Reactions:

  • Chris is clearly taken aback and feels misled, saying, “I thought we had an actual... a real connection, and I'm finding out it's just like a game” (16:58).
  • Alexis expresses concern over the lack of upfront honesty with Chris.

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4. The 'Golden Ticket' Offer & Chris’s Decision (16:39–19:44)

• Lisa tries to placate Chris: “You were one of my favorites. I told my boyfriend I might want to use one of my golden tickets on you this year” (16:26).
• She explains, “A golden ticket is a second date with someone, and I haven't used mine yet this year, and I'm thinking of using it on you” (16:42).
• Chris rejects the offer, stating, “I do not want to go out on dates with somebody who needs approval from their boyfriend. Through what? A golden ticket? No, thank you” (19:21).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Chris’s Turn-On:
  “Her fingers are on my lips, stopping me. She says to me, ‘naughty boy,’ and literally moves my lips with her hand to her cheek. I don’t know, it must have been the control, but that was the most turned on I’ve ever been.”
  — Chris, (08:10)

• Lisa’s Relationship Dynamic:
  “My boyfriend likes it when I go on dates with other guys... he goes on the date, too, and he watches.”
  — Lisa, (13:35)

• Alexis Calls It Out:
  “You're lying to other people and, like, using people like Chris along the way. That's the part that sucks.”
  — Alexis, (18:29)

• Chris’s Dismay:
  “I do not want to go out on dates with somebody who needs approval from their boyfriend. Through what? A golden ticket? No, thank you.”
  — Chris, (19:21)

• Clever Summary:
  “It's funny that Chris's biggest turn-on was when she said no to his kiss, but her biggest turn-on was her boyfriend watching her say no to his kiss.”
  — Jeffrey, (21:59)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Chris Recaps the Date: 03:57–08:31
• Chris Gets Ghosted: 08:47–09:48
• Hosts Call Lisa: 11:53–13:31
• Lisa Admits Boyfriend is Involved: 13:35–15:00
• Lisa Elaborates on the 'Golden Ticket': 16:26–16:50
• Chris Rejects Future Dates: 19:15–19:33
• Hosts’ Reactions/Summary: 21:59–22:41

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Tone & Style

Throughout the episode, the tone stays playful, cheeky, and quick-witted—rapid-fire jokes balanced with genuine curiosity and empathy for Chris’s situation. The hosts create a lively, humorous atmosphere, but aren’t afraid to challenge behaviors they see as unfair or misleading.

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Summary Takeaway

This episode of Second Date Update delivers a classic misconnection with a twist—what seemed to Chris like a playful, flirtatious connection was actually Lisa fulfilling a rule in her existing relationship, with her boyfriend covertly present for the entire Popeyes experience. The “golden ticket” concept—a reward for a second date—is a quirky detail, but for Chris, the realization that he was a spectator in someone else's relationship “game” is a dealbreaker.

The episode is a hilarious, surprising, and ultimately poignant reminder about the importance of upfront honesty in dating and the wide variety of relationship dynamics in the modern world.

Transcript

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[Alexis]

Welcome to your brand new second date podcast. Thank you so much for being here. And today. Well, I guess the part where they're playing with our food during the date Is the highlight. Yeah, the dream date. The low light gets real low, so you'll hear it in just a second. But first comments. Alexis. Yes, Rosebud Sims said, when I was a kid, I hated the talking part of the radio in the morning. Now I hate the music and listen to the talking part online. Love you guys. I think I remember the same welcome adulthood. My. My own kid actually turned the station the other day when he heard my voice. Come on. Oh, I was like, rude. Oh, right in your face too. Yeah.

[Brooke]

Music's good though.

[Alexis]

Not getting your allowance this week. All right, let's get into your brand new second date. It starts right now.

[Jill Winterstein]

Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.

[Alexis]

Second date update.

[Jeffrey]

I just googled the top turn ons for guys during dates.

[Alexis]

Whoa.

[Jeffrey]

And Google was like, I don't know. Ask Chat GPT. Yeah, so I went and I asked Chat GPT. Hey, what turns guys on?

[Alexis]

Shouldn't you know? You're a guy.

[Jeffrey]

And they were like, oh, come on now, Jeff. You know. Oh, so I'm getting no answers from both of the smartest computers on planet Earth.

[Alexis]

They must really don't know they're female.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, is that what it is? Listen, here's what I've learned from a good friend of mine, Jose Balanos. A woman with a great personality and a nice low cut napkin will always have my attention. So that's what I have to go off of when one of our listeners said that he was turned on big time by the end of his date. I think I know what he means by a napkin. I cannot wait to find out how low his date's napkin was cut. Chris, welcome to the show, my man.

[Chris]

Hey, thanks for having me.

[Alexis]

God, I don't know that I want to be part of any of this. The rest of this conversation.

[Jeffrey]

I know. Brook's getting far too turned on thinking about how low she wants to cut her napkin for her next day.

[Alexis]

It doesn't even make sense.

[Jeffrey]

It doesn't have to, cuz it's hot. Am I right, Chris?

[Alexis]

Oh, Chris.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Alexis]

Don't say yeah.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, Chris knows. All right, so now that we've got all the gears turning, we're all oiled up and ready to go. Chris, tell us about the woman that you met. What's her name?

[Chris]

Her name was Lisa.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, my sister's name is Lisa.

[Brooke]

Now I got this tiny napkin and I'm thinking of my sister.

[Alexis]

Oh, my God, Chris, I am so sorry.

[Jeffrey]

It's a good name. Some strong female name.

[Alexis]

Let's talk about your Lisa, Chris.

[Jeffrey]

Yes.

[Chris]

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So I met her on a dating app. I won't say which one, but she was definitely leading the charge throughout this interaction because this is the thing she wanted to get right to the date. I'm somebody who wants to take it slow. I would like to get to know whoever they are via chat.

[Alexis]

Isn't that exhausting, though? Like, I've just heard that people disappear. Like, it never materializes. Too much can ruin it. Like, before I know.

[Narrator (Sixth Bureau podcast)]

Brooke.

[Jeffrey]

Why don't they jump straight into bed with you? Like, first five minutes? Like, let's really get to know each other.

[Alexis]

Good old days, Jeff. I miss those days of dating.

[Jeffrey]

I'm with you, Chris. What's wrong with you? Why do you want to talk to them?

[Chris]

Yeah, I want to get to know you. Do we have the same sense of humor? Whatever. But Lisa, she just jumped right in and said, I'd like to get to know you in person. Let's do it on a date. She suggested a place that I would have never thought that a woman would suggest a date for, which was Popeyes. Popeyes Chicken.

[Alexis]

Yeah, the popcorn chicken. Oh, it's so good.

[Chris]

Honestly, it is great. But I was like, I don't know. I would never even suggest that myself.

[Alexis]

Yeah, I bet you're stoked.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah. Did you actually go inside of Popeyes or did you do the drive through nice and slow?

[Chris]

No, we went inside. No drive.

[Jeffrey]

Because for anybody listening, that's a little first date tip. Do the drive through through slow, Back seat only.

[Alexis]

How are you driving?

[Jeffrey]

Cruise control.

[Alexis]

Baby control works.

[Jeffrey]

Chris, if this day ends up not working out, just remember that for your next one, okay? We're learning a lot here. Okay, so take us inside Popeyes with Lisa. What happens?

[Chris]

Well, I would say first off, when I saw her, she looked exactly like her photos.

[Alexis]

Okay.

[Chris]

I was happy about that, dude.

[Alexis]

And to be cute in fast food lighting is a feat.

[Chris]

And she was. She was super cute. Super nice. She made me laugh. That was like, a big highlight. This is silly, but she would use the chicken tenders and make them walk towards me. I don't know. It was like some weird bit.

[Brooke]

She sounds fun.

[Alexis]

Why do I picture the Rockettes like just a line of chicken legs?

[Jeffrey]

Sexy long chicken legs coming right at you.

[Alexis]

They were tenders. They weren't the drumsticks. They should have been the drumsticks.

[Jeffrey]

That would have been better. Yeah, yeah. She's not as funny as we want her to be, so we're going to dock her a point.

[Brooke]

So the mood is good. Like, how does the Date end.

[Chris]

I mean, everything was going great. I mean, there was so much flirtation, eye contact, her smile. She was touching my hand. There was a lot of that. And then it was pretty short, I would guess, like, I don't know, 30, 40 minutes. She just said, hey, I'm having a great time, but I gotta go. I hope to see you again. And then I walked her to her car. And that moment, I was feeling the vibe. I went in for a kiss goodbye, and next thing I know, her fingers are on my lips, stopping me. She says to me, naughty boy.

[Alexis]

Oh.

[Chris]

Literally moves my lips with her hand to her cheek. I don't know, it must have been the control, but that was the most turned on I've ever been.

[Brooke]

No way.

[Jeffrey]

For you holding your face onto her cheek, that did it. Oh, man.

[Chris]

I don't know, I just. It was. I know she was saying no to the kiss, but I was like, whatever you want.

[Brooke]

You just discovered you like a woman to take control, brother.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, that's what you just got.

[Alexis]

I mean, obviously she was being fun and playful with it. Like, it's not like she was turning you down in a cold way. So I am actually surprised you're not seeing her again.

[Chris]

Yeah, I'm surprised too.

[Jeffrey]

I mean, what's happened since?

[Chris]

There was a little bit of chit chat via text right after the date.

[Jeffrey]

Okay.

[Chris]

But then it just went radio silence for the last four days and the chicken's gone cold.

[Brooke]

She's trying to ghost you for sure, but we're not gonna let her.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, just because it's cold doesn't mean you can't pop it in the microwave, reheat it, get it nice and hot.

[Alexis]

You would choose an air fryer? Well, I mean, microwave fried chicken is not worried.

[Jeffrey]

I'm working with what we got here at the radio station, and they definitely don't have air fryers or ninja. Whatever.

[Brooke]

Dating or chicken, Right?

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, I'm confused too, but I'm liking it no matter what. Maybe she just wants to take it super, super slow with you because she liked you that much.

[Brooke]

That's true.

[Alexis]

But she wanted to take it fast in the beginning.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, no, fast, slow. It's like watching Alexis drive. It's hard to follow. So let's try and call her. We'll figure out if she has a reason for not talking to you in the last four days. But hopefully we can get her to agree to another meetup when we do your second date update with Lisa right after this. With Lisa right after this.

[Jill Winterstein]

Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.

[Alexis]

Second date update.

[Jeffrey]

We're on the phone with Chris, who told us that his date with Lisa was the most turned on that he has ever been.

[Alexis]

And nothing happened.

[Nancy Glass]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

Are you sure? Because after getting the deets, it's not hard to understand why he said that, because first off, they went to Popeyes. Then they played footsie together with their chicken tenders. Oh.

[Alexis]

Which she pretended that they were legs. Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

Sexy again. And then at the very end, when he leaned in to kiss her, she blocked it with her greasy hand and then guided his lips onto her cheek,

[Alexis]

calling him a naughty boy.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, yes. Yes. I mean, am I the only one who's sweating thinking about that?

[Alexis]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, maybe I'm getting sick.

[Nancy Glass]

Yeah.

[Chris]

Okay.

[Jeffrey]

I should probably get a checkup. But, I mean, according to Chris, it was an intense connection that they shared that day.

[Alexis]

That's so cool.

[Jeffrey]

It has been four days, though, since they last spoke over text, and he's not sure what killed the momentum. We're going to try and help him figure out why.

[Chris]

Yeah, I would love that. I mean, it was a perfect matchup. Super funny, quirky, Pretty Woman. I mean, come on, help me out.

[Alexis]

Do you have any theories?

[Chris]

I mean, I must have just said something wrong or weird in the text, but I've gone back through and looked at them, and there's nothing there that stands out.

[Alexis]

You didn't send any pictures, did you?

[Nancy Glass]

No.

[Chris]

No, I did not.

[Narrator (Sixth Bureau podcast)]

Okay.

[Jeffrey]

Cause sometimes I send a naked, unbreaded chicken, and that usually kills it for me.

[Alexis]

I hear too much about Jeffs, and,

[Jeffrey]

yeah, the girls like it breaded. By the way, Chris, that's another hot dating tip for you just in case this doesn't work out. All right, I'll take it for guys, too. Go ahead. Feel free to steal that.

[Alexis]

Yes, Call Lisa, please.

[Jeffrey]

I know. Again, Brooke is getting too turned on just thinking about that naked chicken breast

[Brooke]

before we get an original. And crispy.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, exactly. So let's just dial Lisa. We'll see if she answers, and then hopefully we can figure this out. So here we go.

[Lisa]

Hello?

[Jeffrey]

Hey, we're looking to speak with Lisa.

[Lisa]

This is Lisa.

[Jeffrey]

Hey, Lisa. Thanks for answering. You're on a radio show right now. It's kind of cool. Called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning.

[Alexis]

Hey, Lisa.

[Narrator (Sixth Bureau podcast)]

Look at you.

[Jeffrey]

You star.

[Lisa]

Hi. Okay.

[Alexis]

Yeah, I think this actually could be a really exciting call for her.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah. All of us are very excited to talk to you because we heard about a date that you went on with one of our listeners, a really nice seeming guy named Chris.

[Lisa]

Oh, Chris.

[Narrator (Sixth Bureau podcast)]

Yeah.

[Alexis]

Your Popeye boyfriend. Can we call him boyfriend already?

[Narrator (Sixth Bureau podcast)]

Come on.

[Alexis]

This minute is, like, funny.

[Jeffrey]

Popeye guy.

[Alexis]

Popeye guy.

[Brooke]

Guy.

[Jeffrey]

I like that.

[Narrator (Sixth Bureau podcast)]

Yeah.

[Lisa]

Why are you calling? Sorry.

[Chris]

Oh, yeah.

[Jeffrey]

This is a lot, right? So this is a segment called the Second Date Update. We do it when a listener of ours is having trouble figuring out why they're not getting a second meetup with someone. We call on their behalf to try and figure out if there's a reason why.

[Lisa]

I don't know. I don't. I don't know.

[Alexis]

You don't know? Okay, can you start with your initial thoughts? Like, when he walked into Popeyes, you were like, what?

[Lisa]

I mean, I thought he was cute. I just.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, it sounds like you're on the fence about it. At least you're not outright saying, no, I didn't like him, so that's a good sign.

[Lisa]

It's tough because I do want to see him again, and I had a great time. It's just. That's not my specific situation.

[Jeffrey]

What do you mean? What's your specific situation?

[Lisa]

So in my situation, my boyfriend likes it when I go on dates with other guys.

[Jeffrey]

Your what? Your boyfriend?

[Brooke]

Oh, my God.

[Jeffrey]

One of those.

[Brooke]

Okay, it's a thing. I get it.

[Alexis]

So you're in a relationship with another man, and you're just doing this because it's your guys's thing. Like, he likes to be jealous.

[Lisa]

I mean, not really. Like, he goes on the date, too, and he watches. Like that. That's his thing.

[Brooke]

He was, like, in the restaurant at the same time.

[Jeffrey]

What?

[Lisa]

Yeah. Yeah. So he. He came into the restaurant and watched me go on a date with another guy.

[Jeffrey]

He saw you playing with each other's

[Alexis]

chicken guy, staring at Popeyes. Yeah, I'm sorry. That's what I can't get over either. Like, you were. He said that you were acting like chicken tenders were legs.

[Lisa]

Yeah, I mean, that's what you're supposed to do on a date, right? Like, have fun.

[Alexis]

Yeah, but it sucks because, like, you led Chris on, our listener. Like, he didn't know you were in a relationship.

[Lisa]

No, no, because I'm not lying, because on my profile, it says that I'm looking for something casual.

[Jeffrey]

So are you saying romance is still in play?

[Lisa]

No. I mean, that's one of our rules. Like, we. We can't do anything with other people. Like, a kiss on the cheek is as far as it can go.

[Brooke]

That explains the guided mouth to the cheek.

[Alexis]

This is a slippery slope you're on, my friend.

[Lisa]

I mean, not really. Like, it keeps Things fun and exciting, and it makes it feel like we're still in, like, the early stages of dating.

[Alexis]

That's one of the worst parts of dating. Maybe for you, the worst stages.

[Chris]

I don't know.

[Jeffrey]

But then you go to 10 years deep into a relationship and you barely talk to each other.

[Brooke]

You wish you had a first date experience, right?

[Jeffrey]

You wish to have more things to talk about.

[Alexis]

That's not true. I'm over 10 years in and, like, exactly.

[Jeffrey]

You've just proved my point. So thank you, bro. All right.

[Alexis]

Oh, I think Chris is going to be just bummed. That's a bummer.

[Jeffrey]

Well, we can. We don't need to guess because we do have Chris waiting on the other line listening in on this conversation, wanting to talk to you. Lisa.

[Lisa]

Oh, my God. He just heard all that?

[Jeffrey]

Unless he hung up.

[Chris]

Hey, Lisa.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, no, he didn't. He's still in.

[Chris]

I don't even understand what. What went on. You. You did this all as like, a joke to have your boyfriend watch me on a date with you?

[Lisa]

It's not a joke. We just, like, watch each other go on first dates with other people. I had a great time with you.

[Chris]

I just make. I mean, what you said that you was. You're a cash. You're up for something casual. Well, it sounds like you're also in something that's beyond casual, but you want something. Catch. I'm. I'm perplexed. I don't understand. It feels very rude. And I feel like. Yeah, I don't know.

[Brooke]

Such a process.

[Lisa]

Okay, Chris, so after all the first dates I've had and like, we do this like once or twice a month, like, you were one of my favorites. And. And I told my boyfriend one. I might want to use one of my golden tickets on you this year.

[Jeffrey]

Oh. Yo. What?

[Lisa]

Okay, so like a golden ticket is a second date with someone, and I haven't used mine yet this year, and I'm thinking of using it on you.

[Alexis]

Okay.

[Brooke]

One more time.

[Alexis]

Aren't you honored?

[Jeffrey]

This is great.

[Narrator (Sixth Bureau podcast)]

Brooke.

[Jeffrey]

Take notes for your relationship. This is good.

[Chris]

I thought we had an actual. A real connection, and I'm finding out it's just like a game.

[Lisa]

Yeah, no, no. Like, obviously we had a good time together. Like. Or otherwise, you wouldn't have called this radio station, so.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, she's got you there.

[Lisa]

We could go out again and I can let you kiss me on the cheek again. But you know, my boyfriend will be watching.

[Brooke]

Golden ticket.

[Jeffrey]

Cheeky.

[Alexis]

Where was he sitting?

[Chris]

Yeah, that's a good question. Where was he sitting? Did I interact with your boyfriend?

[Narrator (Sixth Bureau podcast)]

Oh, my God.

[Jeffrey]

If he was in the drive through,

[Brooke]

I'm going to die back.

[Lisa]

I don't want to ruin it because, like, he might be in the same spot when we go on another date, so, you know, I want to let him be inconspicuous.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

Does it ruin it for you that he knows now that the boyfriend's going to be in the vicinity? Isn't that part of the facade?

[Lisa]

I mean, kind of, but, like, I would still use my golden ticket on you, Chris. And, like, again, my boyfriend hasn't, like, officially agreed, but, like, I will extend that.

[Alexis]

Why? What if you end up liking Chris more than your boyfriend?

[Lisa]

Oh, that's not going to happen.

[Chris]

You all know that I'm still here, right?

[Jeffrey]

No, we. We know. I just want to. I want to get more details about how this whole relationship thing works, because it sounds really cool.

[Alexis]

Literally taking notes. For some reason, I don't really get it.

[Jeffrey]

I mean, not to be too progressive here, but it's kind of archaic to think that just because a woman is in a relationship, that means she can't hang out with a man ever again or meet a new guy, right, Brooke?

[Alexis]

No, I don't agree with you on this one.

[Jeffrey]

You think that women should be locked down once they're in a relationship.

[Alexis]

Every relationship can have different background boundaries. And that's fine that those are the boundaries that she has with her boyfriend. What I don't think is fine is that you're lying to other people and, like, using people like Chris along the way. That's the part that sucks.

[Jeffrey]

That's fair. But now that all the boundaries have been set out, she said exactly how it works. And, Chris, you're in the loop in the inner circle. It's actually the inner triangle, Brook, because it's a three. Three person thing.

[Alexis]

Unless her boyfriend's on a double date while watching her date, that it would be a square, or it's a really

[Jeffrey]

far away, a rectangle.

[Lisa]

Wait, have you done this before? That's a great idea.

[Jeffrey]

No, we're just brainstorming here.

[Alexis]

Boy, we just took geometry.

[Jeffrey]

So, Lisa, it sounds like you've already told us that you're willing to use your golden ticket on Chris. Is that. Am I right about that?

[Lisa]

Yes.

[Jeffrey]

Chris, Lisa's in, and so is her boyfriend secretly in the corner. Are you still down?

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Alexis]

He's got to be listening to this.

[Chris]

I do not want to go out on dates with somebody who needs approval from their boyfriend. Through what? A golden ticket?

[Alexis]

Yeah.

[Chris]

No, thank You.

[Alexis]

That's such a normal sentence to say, though. That's so weird.

[Lisa]

Oh, Chris, are you sure? Because, like, if it works out, we could go and watch his date the next week.

[Chris]

Oh.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, yeah.

[Chris]

I never want to do that.

[Narrator (Sixth Bureau podcast)]

No.

[Jeffrey]

You two could be hiding in the ball pit while they're inside the McDonald's sharing a McCrispy. Oh, it's going so well.

[Brooke]

Just remember, no kissing.

[Jeffrey]

No kissing

[Alexis]

Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.

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[Jeffrey]

It's funny that Chris biggest turn on was when she said no to his kiss, but her biggest turn on was her boyfriend watching her say no to his kiss.

[Brooke]

Oh, the irony there.

[Alexis]

The chicken tender scene is just still strange to me that that is part of the arousal situation.

[Jeffrey]

Now you know what you're getting into when you go to Popeyes.

[Brooke]

I mean, I guess if you know, you're not hooking up with anyone you got nothing to lose. Yeah, she's just having a good time. Like she doesn't care.

[Lisa]

Free Popeyes.

[Brooke]

Yeah, there you go.

[Alexis]

And something to talk about later with her boyfriend. Like, when you did that thing, I thought that was so funny.

[Jeffrey]

So sexy. Oh, my God. People's turn ons are just. Just evolving as the world changes. And I don't know if it's a good thing or not.

[Alexis]

I'm not sure either.

[Jeffrey]

But, Brooke, does Michael want to watch you and me get some Red Lobster? Maybe this weekend? I'll pretend to not see him in the corner if he's into that.

[Alexis]

I'm gonna go. No, but you can sit and watch us if you want.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, well, that's not very fun for me.

[Brooke]

Your husband's like, who's that weird guy choking on a cheddar biscuit over there?

[Jeffrey]

Do you like this?

[Narrator (Sixth Bureau podcast)]

I don't know.

[Jeffrey]

Might reinvigorate your mare marriage. Because it sounded like it definitely worked for Lisa. Lost opportunity.

[Alexis]

I'll keep that in my back pocket if things go south.

[Jeffrey]

Good for you. And make sure you keep us in your back pocket. If you ever need help with your dating life, you can email the show. We'll call that person who isn't calling you back. And also keep our podcast in your back pocket too.

[Alexis]

It fits really well.

[Jeffrey]

It sure does. Find us at brookeandjeffrey. Like, subscribe and comment.