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Jeffrey
Welcome to your brand new Second Date podcast. It's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning, and I gotta say, I think today's second date calls for a poll. We haven't done a poll in a while. Of course, I think the poll only works on Spotify. To actually click it.
Alexis
Yeah, it does.
Jeffrey
But you can just put in your answer wherever else you're listening. Whether that's on. Yeah, on the comments, whether it's on YouTube or whatever platform you're on, or you can text it into the number 78592. If your date has something on their face, do you say something or do you keep it to yourself?
Brooke
It depends. Yeah, honestly, I'd probably wipe it off.
Jeffrey
Yeah. With what?
Brooke
With a napkin.
Jeffrey
Oh, sorry. I'm a little excited. All right, let us know, Let us know and you'll understand why we're asking that question here in just a second. But first, comments from our lovely, lovely listeners. What are you seeing? Alexis?
Alexis
Killer sheep said, I've been listening since.
Jeffrey
February and finally caught up with all.
Alexis
The episodes in the Second Date Update podcast.
Jeffrey
I'm upgrading to the full show now.
Brooke
Yeah, okay, good. I was gonna say. Oh, no, you ran out of stuff to listen to, but you're on the full show. You got a lot more.
Jeffrey
I mean, that's the thing that people don't understand who love this podcast. Yeah, we actually do an hour long show every day. Every stinking day. We do a brand new show. So if you want the full show, you can go over to main. Our main feed podcast. Just look up Brooke and Jeffrey. It's right there.
Alexis
Or you can click more like this. And I think it's the first option that appears.
Jeffrey
Yeah, that's true too. All right, let's get this second date started.
Brooke
Yes, Second date update. Brooke, did you know the first time that you met your husband Michael that something was special? Not saying that you knew, like you were going to get married in the first 15 seconds of talking to him. But was there anything that happened with you instantly that let you know, whoa, there's something real, like something actually special going on?
Jeffrey
Oh, no. I just felt so good around him and I was so excited about him.
Brooke
Okay, you were drunk, so that's probably why.
Jeffrey
I mean, I did have like 5 glasses. Of wine and make a off color UTI joke in the night I met him.
Brooke
Okay, well, yeah, UTI jokes.
Jeffrey
And he still liked me.
Brooke
Me. Okay, there you go. That explains it. I mean, I remember the first time that I met Jose and I noticed his fly was down, and I thought, ooh, special. Yeah, but you didn't tell me XYZ, though. No, I enjoyed it.
Jeffrey
He asked you to put it down further.
Brooke
Yeah, but, you know, we don't talk about this all the time about that first 10, 15 seconds when you meet your date and something happens inside that lets you know. Apparently, that happened to one of our listeners, Graham, recently. At least that's what his email said. And we should learn a little bit more about it. Graham, welcome to the show, man.
Graham
Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call.
Jeffrey
I can't wait to hear about this chance meet. Maybe it wasn't chance meeting. Whatever the meeting was, it sounds great.
Brooke
Yeah. So without getting overly descriptive, how did your body let you know that this was special?
Graham
Well, she didn't have a fly open, I can tell you that.
Brooke
Okay.
Jeffrey
Dang it.
Brooke
So what's her name, by the way? And how did you meet her?
Graham
Her name is Aura.
Jeffrey
That's cool. How'd you meet her?
Graham
We met on one of those dating apps, and we decided to meet at a wine bar.
Jeffrey
All right, so going into meeting her at the wine bar, were you expecting something special?
Graham
Well, you know how you always have your hopes up. Yeah, but I knew when I walked in that I was going to be in so much trouble.
Brooke
Why?
Jeffrey
Good trouble.
Graham
Immediately recognized me and started from across the room, waving both of her hands over her head like a total dork.
Brooke
Just one of those people like me. She got no shame.
Alexis
I love hair.
Jeffrey
And you loved that, right?
Graham
Oh, my gosh. She was just so, like, effortlessly cute.
Brooke
Little free spirit over there.
Jeffrey
Her name's Aura. It comes in.
Brooke
Oh, my gosh, you're right. Just a good energy.
Jeffrey
That's adorable.
Brooke
So.
Jeffrey
And it sounds like she was excited to see you.
Graham
It was one of those, like, initial meetings where in the first five seconds, I was like, oh, my God, this is just like a dream. It was fantastic.
Brooke
That must be a lot to process, right, when you're first getting to know somebody. So did the feeling wear off and just get into, like, a normal date after that?
Graham
I mean, I wouldn't say it wore off or it was normal. It was just. I mean, there was a jazz trio playing, and we were both into jazz music, and she was like, oh, let's make up names for the Guys. And so you have Sammy fly guitar playing and Dennis the drummer, all that kind of stuff. We were just cracking each other up the whole time.
Brooke
You guys were in your own world, right? Exactly.
Jeffrey
And they're already making almost inside jokes with each other. You know, like, just a fun, fun thing.
Brooke
Now, anytime any song comes on the radio, you can be like, oh, yeah, this is my favorite drummer. Willington Drummerson. You know, whatever. Well, clearly the vibes are there, so keep taking us through how the rest of the date goes.
Graham
It just kept getting better. I mean, our sense of, like, humor was just so, like, simpatico, I guess, to use that word. Like, at one point she had, like, some lipstick on her front teeth, so I started, like, signaling and rubbing on my own front teeth.
Jeffrey
Good, I'm glad you told her.
Brooke
Yeah.
Graham
And she just looks at me. She goes, what, are you having a stroke.
Brooke
Just rubbing your tongue on your teeth?
Graham
Exactly. I was just laughing so much. And then.
Brooke
That was fun.
Graham
Oh, yeah, it was. It went so well.
Jeffrey
Oh, my God.
Brooke
Sounds like it.
Jeffrey
Why are you calling us for help then? Like, I don't get it. How could this have ended poorly?
Graham
Well, that's the thing. It didn't really end poorly. When we said goodbye, she just came up to me and gave me, like, a really long, tight hug.
Jeffrey
Oh, that's nice.
Brooke
Some of those are nice.
Graham
Exactly. And she says we have to definitely do this again.
Brooke
Oh, that's nice.
Jeffrey
That seems so sincere.
Graham
I've texted her twice. One time to see if she wanted to go out for coffee. Second time to see if she wanted to go do a trivia night, because I think she'd be great at that.
Brooke
Wait, how long did you wait before you texted her? Was this like, 30 minutes after the date or was this a couple days?
Graham
I waited two days.
Brooke
I think that's good.
Jeffrey
That's too long. I think when you have a connection like that with someone, that you just go with it. You just follow. You don't got to play the game of, like, waiting. Yeah.
Brooke
So that extra day, that's what blew it, that you took too long.
Alexis
Have you.
Brooke
At a certain point, you just gotta grab your luggage and move in with her. It sounds, like, so connected.
Jeffrey
Have you not heard from her at all?
Graham
Well, that's the thing is, like, when I was texting her, she did reply, but she said that she was busy. And the worst part was, like, she didn't offer an alternative time or date or anything like that. It was just, no, I'm busy. I can't.
Jeffrey
I mean, sometimes these Free spirits. They really suck at text, you know?
Brooke
I mean, Alexis, if you wanted to see a guy, would you tell him, like, I'm just busy, or would you offer up a little bit more?
Alexis
I would offer something else. I probably over offer.
Jeffrey
Honestly.
Alexis
I'd probably mention all the times I'm free.
Jeffrey
How many times did you apply, apologize for being busy?
Alexis
A lot.
Brooke
That's true, too.
Alexis
In all caps.
Brooke
It is odd that she leaves it at just I'm busy and no explanation and no other follow up to it.
Graham
Exactly.
Brooke
That could feel like that. She's trying to brush you off. I understand.
Jeffrey
And you guys had such a thing happening. It's just hard to imagine she wasn't right there with you feeling the exact same thing.
Brooke
Well, maybe it was the fact that you made her pay for the dinner that night. You made her pay? I'm just assuming.
Graham
Did you?
Brooke
Wait, how did the.
Graham
No, no, no. I. A proper gentleman. I paid for everything. I just need you. I need you guys to find out for me how the hell did I blow this?
Jeffrey
We're going to find for you how to keep it going. Because I've got faith in this one.
Brooke
Because we don't even know that you blew it. It could be something totally unrelated.
Jeffrey
I am so excited to get her on the phone.
Brooke
All right, well, let's find out. We're going to come back, call Aura, and try and get you your second date update coming up right after this. Okay, thank you. All right, man. Hold on. Second date update. Whenever I'm stuck on hold with customer service for four straight hours and the automated message keeps replaying over and over saying, we're busy right now, but don't go anywhere. Your call's very important to us. We're just busy. Yeah, I believe them.
Jeffrey
Oh, you do?
Brooke
They really, really care. We're not understaffed.
Jeffrey
I'm sure they're not a break somewhere.
Brooke
But the thing is, if you're on the other end of a potential relationship with someone, somebody you really like, and you get to. Sorry, I'm just busy right now. In a rows. It's hard not to be a little bit skeptical and feel like you're being blown off.
Jeffrey
Yeah. Especially when they don't say, hey, press number nine for a different day to date me.
Brooke
That's where our listener Graham is. After a really good date at a jazz bar with a girl named Aura, he has turned to us. Because those two busies just aren't equaling a second meetup.
Jeffrey
And they're not equally the vibe that they had going when they were hanging out. It just sounds so.
Alexis
I can't believe we haven't said it sooner, but negative aura points for her.
Jeffrey
Yeah.
Brooke
Graham. I mean, before we call her here, how you feeling?
Graham
I'm feeling a little nervous, to be honest.
Brooke
But how's your aura?
Jeffrey
I mean, I get it. I'm feeling nervous for you. I mean, you just sound so excited, and I want this to happen for you. I think we all do.
Brooke
Everything sounded so good. I don't want to put this out there, but it has to be shocking. Like, whatever the excuses you're not going to see, like, oh, wow, I didn't think of that. There's nothing that has gone wrong.
Graham
Right?
Brooke
We can change that right now. Let's see if something went wrong. I'm gonna dial her number right now. Hopefully she picks up the phone. Here we go.
Graham
Hello?
Brooke
Hey, is this Aura?
Alexis
Um, yes. Who's this?
Brooke
Okay, this is a. We're a radio show. We're called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning.
Jeffrey
Hi, Aura. The whole show's here.
Brooke
Thanks for being on us.
Alexis
Okay.
Brooke
Hi.
Alexis
I didn't. I don't think I signed up for anything. I don't.
Jeffrey
Yeah, you didn't.
Brooke
No, you didn't. But one of our listeners kind of signed you up for something called a second date update.
Alexis
Okay.
Brooke
So if you're not familiar with that, it's a segment that we do on our show where we try to help people who've gone out with somebody one time, but they're not getting that second meetup and they're not sure why. We can call and try to figure out if there's a reason for it.
Jeffrey
Yeah.
Brooke
Does that make sense?
Jeffrey
Yeah, I guess. We know you're really busy, so we won't keep you.
Brooke
That's what we've heard. We're really good at these, by the way. We'll be efficient. Okay. We'll get through this. Because we're calling about a guy that you went out with recently named Graham.
Alexis
I'm sorry. I'm, like, super confused.
Jeffrey
Like, what is this great question.
Brooke
Well, yeah, that's the thing, is, we spoke to Graham about your date, and we're just trying to figure out if there's a reason that the two of you haven't gone out again. Because you keep saying to him that.
Jeffrey
You'Re busy but not offering any solutions on when to meet up.
Alexis
Yeah, I mean, I. Like, I already texted him. Like I said, I was busy during the times he wanted to hang out.
Brooke
I think in his mind, when you say I'm busy, that's just, like, it can be a word that people use to brush somebody off if you're not actually wanting to see them, but you don't want to come off as being rude.
Alexis
Like, I meant what I said. I'm just really busy.
Jeffrey
Okay. Okay, but there's no way. I mean, like, I'm sorry. We're all really busy, but, like, when you meet somebody that you feel like you have this crazy connection with, you'll make time for them.
Alexis
Yep. But I'm not, like, canceling my plans. Like, I know we're not.
Brooke
We're not asking you to do that, but he just asked us to call because it was unclear to him if you actually wanted to meet up. But it's.
Alexis
What's unclear, I'm saying. Okay, but I am busy.
Jeffrey
Okay, clear that if you like. I. I'm honestly still unclear whether you actually like him or not.
Alexis
I like him, but, like, I don't understand why, like, he needs a third party interjecting.
Jeffrey
That's.
Alexis
Like, I said that I'm free. I'm. I'm just busy. During the times he mentioned.
Brooke
Gotcha. I hear you, and I don't want to be the third party interjecting whatsoever. In fact, I'm scared. Yeah, well, no, listen. Graham is actually the one I want you to talk to, and it's perfect because he's right here on the other line, listening, waiting. Jump in.
Graham
Hey, Aura.
Alexis
What? I'm so confused. Like, what is happening? What's, like, what's the deal with these, like, jobbers you hired to, like, will be about us? Jobbers? I called you jobbers. Like, I don't know what you guys. Like.
Brooke
We are employed, not about us.
Jeffrey
Is it like, a yapper?
Brooke
Okay, Graham, why don't you talk to her?
Graham
Yeah, I didn't. I didn't hire them. It's just a radio show, and they, you know, help people get in touch if they're having in trouble getting together, so.
Alexis
Yeah, but like I told you, I was busy a couple of times. Like, don't you think it's a little extreme to, like, go on a radio station and honestly, whoever that guy was I've been talking to, like, did not seem prepared at all. He didn't know what I was talking about, and he, like, tried to nail down a date for you.
Brooke
Are you talking about Jeff?
Jeffrey
That's fine. Sometimes people need a common enemy. Can it come together?
Brooke
Honestly, I'm with her. I wasn't doing a very good job. That was pretty crap. I'd give myself a D. I Don't.
Jeffrey
Want you to feel bad or can't you think of this as like a kind of a romantic gesture? Like he really wants to see you and he went to all this effort.
Alexis
No, it's super weird.
Brooke
Well, that's. You guys have so much chemistry. I feel like you're so angry.
Jeffrey
Does this feel like the same person you went out with, Graham?
Graham
Well, maybe not a little bit, but you guys have been kind of grilling her pretty hard.
Jeffrey
We can take the fall.
Brooke
Yeah.
Graham
No, no, no. That's okay. I mean, your intentions are great. That's fine.
Brooke
Well, so are yours, bro. I did have some bad intentions when I dialed. I'll be honest. I brought some negative energy into this, and that's my fault. Negative aura. That's right. I feel so guilty. And you shouldn't be.
Jeffrey
Is there anything we can do to come back from putting you out or making you feel weird? Like you keep saying, you can stop.
Alexis
Asking me questions and he can just ask me out. How about that?
Jeffrey
Okay.
Brooke
Okay.
Alexis
All right.
Graham
Okay. I think that's perfect. That's perfect. I'd love to hang out. And how about this weekend? Are you free, like, on Friday?
Alexis
I'm busy Friday.
Brooke
See, I knew it.
Jeffrey
Okay, okay. Keep going, girl.
Graham
Well, we'll have. How about Saturday then?
Alexis
I've got something that day. But, like, you should. And you probably need to know this, but I'm in, like, two other situationships.
Jeffrey
Oh, that's why you're so busy.
Brooke
Oh, that's okay.
Graham
Well, now we know why she's so busy.
Jeffrey
Oh, Graham, I'm sorry.
Brooke
Is that okay with you, Graham?
Graham
Well, let me ask you. You said you're already in two situations, so.
Brooke
Really?
Graham
What does that mean?
Alexis
It means a lot of fun.
Brooke
Wow.
Jeffrey
Finally softened up.
Graham
Do you even have time for me then, or what?
Alexis
I'm free Sunday afternoon. Like, I can squeeze you in.
Brooke
Oh, wow. How would a man say.
Graham
I'm not really sure if I want to be squeezed in between two other dudes?
Alexis
I mean, beggars can't be choosers here. Like, you're the one who's late to the party, but it's still a party.
Brooke
Okay, she's clearly not rejecting you. But you're gonna.
Jeffrey
But she's offering you not much.
Brooke
Y. I'm single.
Alexis
Like, I don't have to, like, kind of be.
Jeffrey
You're kind of single.
Brooke
I think we're all jealous of. You are, if anything. So.
Jeffrey
I don't know. I think. Graham. I don't know. Graham. I feel like you deserve more than this. Yeah.
Brooke
You do. I don't.
Graham
Look, guys, I think I should just go with my gut and say you only live once and let's do it.
Brooke
Okay, Bring it back.
Jeffrey
Yolo.
Brooke
So you're open to a possible third situationship with Aura?
Graham
Well, I mean, if the third situationship goes so well, maybe they'll just turn into a single situationship.
Jeffrey
Okay.
Brooke
Really optimistic. Good for you.
Alexis
I mean, that's the point of like dating. Like you're supposed to like try new things and see what sticks.
Jeffrey
Okay, that's true.
Brooke
Yeah. Well, great. Now we're running out of time here. So I'm. I'm just curious though. Ora, if he does go through with this, does that put him like in the third seat? Like the last place guy? Or does he need to do a trial run and does he have to meet the other guys? Is there a Google Doc?
Jeffrey
Why would they meet the other.
Brooke
I don't know how it works with this.
Alexis
That's so weird. No. Okay, so if it works out, it works out. And if it doesn't, we had fun.
Brooke
Okay, great. I just want to be clear that we're setting our guy up for success here. So we would like to offer to send you guys out on a date. And we would pay for it.
Alexis
I. Yeah, I mean, I'm down. Thank you.
Jeffrey
Not the grand romantic ending I was hoping for, Graham, but a lot more realistic. Yeah, you know Brooke and Jeffrey, the morning.
Brooke
Oh, was that like the ickiest yes. That we've ever gotten to a second date. Ever.
Jeffrey
Not where I wanted things to end, I'll tell you that.
Brooke
Yeah, but at least we got an answer to why she was busy.
Graham
And.
Jeffrey
And I guess it's clear to Graham what he's walking into, right? Like there's no mystery here anymore.
Brooke
I don't know if it is really clear cuz we never really asked whether the like situationships know about each other or how. How serious they really were with anything.
Jeffrey
She seems pretty blunt, Jeff.
Brooke
I mean, she seems like she enjoys it for sure. Yeah, it's the one thing that made her smile during that entire call.
Jeffrey
And get like a weird sexy voice thing.
Brooke
Yeah, how can you not when you're thinking about your harem of guys waiting for you. But I just have a feeling our boy Graham is going to be happy settling for Sunday afternoon hangouts.
Jeffrey
Well, he's Sunday boy now. He's a pretty positive person. He might be okay with it.
Brooke
They might end in a four way marriage if it goes well enough.
Jeffrey
Sweet.
Brooke
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Podcast Title: Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Hosted By: iHeartPodcasts
Episode Release Date: May 14, 2025
Duration: Approximately 24 minutes
In the episode titled "Second Date Update: The First Five Seconds," hosts Brooke and Jeffrey delve into the intriguing dynamics of first impressions in dating. They explore how initial interactions can set the tone for future relationships and address listener experiences seeking insights into their dating lives.
The episode begins with Jeffrey introducing a listener poll:
Notable Quote:
Jeffrey [02:55]: "If your date has something on their face, do you say something or do you keep it to yourself?"
Brooke and Jeffrey encourage listeners to participate via Spotify, comments on various platforms, or by texting the number provided. They emphasize the importance of audience interaction in understanding diverse perspectives on common dating scenarios.
The core of the episode revolves around Graham’s experience after a promising first date with a woman named Aura.
Key Points:
First Impression: Graham felt an instant connection with Aura during their initial meeting at a wine bar, describing the encounter as "effortlessly cute" and filled with shared humor and inside jokes.
Notable Quotes:
Graham [05:46]: "We were just cracking each other up the whole time."
Brooke [07:00]: "But you didn't tell me XYZ, though."
Post-Date Attempt: Encouraged by the positive first date, Graham texts Aura twice to arrange a second meeting—once for coffee and another for a trivia night. However, Aura responds by stating she's "busy" without suggesting alternative dates or times.
Notable Quote:
Graham [08:38]: "I've texted her twice. One time to see if she wanted to go out for coffee. Second time to see if she wanted to go do a trivia night."
Listener’s Concern: Unsure why Aura is unresponsive despite the great first date, Graham seeks advice from Brooke and Jeffrey to understand and possibly rectify the situation.
Brooke and Jeffrey take an active role in mediating Graham's predicament by arranging a live call with Aura on the show.
Key Highlights:
Call Setup: Brooke explains the purpose of their show segment, "Second Date Update," aimed at helping listeners navigate the challenges of securing second dates.
Notable Quotes:
Brooke [13:21]: "We're calling about a guy that you went out with recently named Graham."
Aura’s Response: During the call, Aura clarifies that her busyness stems from being involved in "two other situationships," implying she is juggling multiple romantic interests.
Notable Quotes:
Aura [16:16]: "I like him, but, like, I don't understand why, like, he needs a third party interjecting."
Aura [16:31]: "I mean, like, beggars can't be choosers here. Like, you're the one who's late to the party, but it's still a party."
Hosts’ Reactions: Brooke and Jeffrey express empathy towards Graham while humorously addressing the complexity of Aura’s dating life. They acknowledge the awkwardness introduced by their intervention but attempt to steer the conversation towards a constructive outcome.
Notable Quotes:
Brooke [16:45]: "No, no, no. That's okay. I mean, your intentions are great. That's fine."
Jeffrey [17:03]: "Is there anything we can do to come back from putting you out or making you feel weird?"
Outcome: Despite the initial positive connection, Aura’s involvement with other partners complicates the possibility of a second date with Graham. The hosts conclude that while Graham deserves clarity, the situation doesn’t bode well for a straightforward second meeting.
Brooke and Jeffrey reflect on the episode's events, emphasizing the unpredictability of dating and the challenges of navigating multiple romantic interests.
Key Insights:
Multiple Dating Interests: Aura's existing engagements highlight the complexities of modern dating, where individuals may juggle multiple interests simultaneously.
Communication Challenges: The lack of clear communication from Aura underscores how vague responses like "I'm busy" can lead to confusion and uncertainty in budding relationships.
Host Support: Despite the rocky outcome, the hosts reaffirm their commitment to supporting listeners like Graham in their dating journeys, emphasizing the show's role in providing guidance and clarity.
Notable Quotes:
Jeffrey [20:28]: "It has to be shocking. Like, whatever the excuses you're not going to see, like, oh, wow, I didn't think of that."
Brooke [20:59]: "So you're open to a possible third situationship with Aura?"
The episode wraps up with a blend of humor and genuine support. While Graham's experience didn't lead to a triumphant second date, the interaction provided valuable insights into the intricacies of modern relationships. Brooke and Jeffrey encourage listeners to continue sharing their stories and seek advice, reinforcing the community aspect of the podcast.
Final Remarks:
Encouragement: Hosts urge listeners to remain positive and proactive in their dating lives, even when faced with confusing or disappointing experiences.
Notable Quotes:
Graham [18:57]: "Look, guys, I think I should just go with my gut and say you only live once and let's do it."
Brooke [19:42]: "That's so weird. No. Okay, so if it works out, it works out. And if it doesn't, we had fun."
Brooke and Jeffrey emphasize the importance of listener participation through polls, calls, and emails, fostering an interactive and supportive community for individuals navigating the complexities of dating.
End of Summary
This summary captures the essence of the "Second Date Update: The First Five Seconds" episode, highlighting the listener's experience, the hosts' guidance, and the broader themes of communication and modern dating dynamics. Notable quotes and timestamps provide context and depth to the discussion, ensuring a comprehensive understanding for those who haven't listened to the episode.