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Through the Purple Leash Project, Purina is helping to create more pet friendly domestic violence shelters across the country so abuse survivors and their pets can escape and heal together. Visit Purina.com purple to get involved. Hey, you're here. You found the Second Date podcast and we love that. Thank you so much. So happy you're here. You know what? If you want us to invade more of your Life, we're on YouTube. Yeah, we are that. With Brooke and Jeffrey. Text in your address. I can. I can show up. Jose will come to your house and give you hugs and food, or you give me food. And also, there's 45 more minutes of this dumb content that apparently you like, which we're really grateful for. You can go over to the main feed for the full show, Brooke and Jeffrey. But right now, let's. Let's get into this relationship stuff. Yeah. Second date update. I think a lot of us have gone out on a first date with low expectations, and before you know it, things happen and you end up spending the night. Oh, yeah, if you're lucky. I know, but not very often does it happen the opposite way, where your whole plan is to stay the night, but you decide. Actually, you know what? I'm gonna play the long game on this one. That's hard. That's exactly what's happening with Jose and Alexis right now. But we're not here to talk about them today. Listen, listen. Her bag. You gross. I'm the grossest thing. You know, the protest. Too much. Protest. Too much. You guys can pretend all you want. We know what's really happening. I am not pretending Alexis is cute. We're not here to talk about the situation happening between you two. We're here for one of our listeners, Sydney, who needs our help today. Welcome to the show, Sydney. Thanks, guys. Oh, man. Thank God you're on the phone. You need to cut the tension in this room. Yeah, sounds steamy. So tell us about the guy that you went out with recently. What's his name? His name is Kurt, and I met him on Tinder. Okay, Okay. I mean, what struck him about you on Tinder? On Tinder, he was just cute. Like, I was originally into it for, like, a meaningless hookup, which is it, 99%. You don't go to Tinder to, like, read the bios. Yeah, there's not Much that strikes you, but you. But you still want to have like a good, like cat chemistry on your, like messages together or, you know, some. Some liked shared interests. I'll give you that. I'll give you that. So how did things play out with you and Kurt? Oh, my gosh. So it turned out he was pretty amazing. Like, I met him at this bar and he was just so put together and had this beautiful smile. Wow. Well, hello, Kurt. I mean, I. I'm getting. Yes. Is that all it takes? Just a little smile? I know you're like, wow, this guy really knows what he's doing. When you have your expect so low, it doesn't take much, Right? That should be Tinder's catchphrase. Set the expectations so low that it doesn't take much. Did you feel yourself like growing more nervous during the date because you're realizing this? I wouldn't say nervous, but just shifting like away from wanting to hook up to like wanting to play like the long game, you know? Oh, okay. Well, that's cool. You suddenly felt like this was going to be more than just a one night thing. You wanted to actually maybe start a relationship. I mean, that seems pretty deep, but yeah, kind of. I was like, wow, okay, so how do you go about doing that? The shift. When did the shift happen? How do you shift to plan? How do you not sleep right away? This is interesting to me. Pivot. When was your pivot? So, I mean, we hung out at the bar for a little bit and then it was kind of early and it was really hot day. Okay, so you excuse yourself to the bathroom and you go put on some real underwear now, because you feel like this could be a relationship situation. Get rid of the edible stuff. Plus, it was a hot day. It was melting. You know, it's getting sticky down here. I'll be right back. I see where you're at, Sydney. Keep going. Yeah, so anyway, it was super hot out and he said that he had a pool at his house. I like Chris. Yeah. What? I know. So I was like, you know, this could be shady, but the fact is I've been hanging out with him for a while and he's just so easy and we just get along, you know? So I was like, why not? Yeah. So wait, was your plan then to skinny dip? Because I assume you didn't come with a swimsuit. Well, I didn't want a skinny dip, but like, I just went in my T shirt and my undies. It was fine. Oh, you tease. I think it's a strong move. No, it's all you got. I mean, heck, might as well, right? Yeah, but it's also, like, I didn't want to hook up with him. I'm just gonna go get naked and wet at his house. That's the long game, Brooke. Okay? Sydney clearly is an expert in the art of seduction. So did it work? I mean, I think so. Like, first of all, let me just tell you. His house. Holy moly. Oh, really? Oh, this guy's rich. Oh, lucky. Oh, my God. Like, brand new. Like, all the finishing touches. Like a floaty staircase. What? Not only does he have a pool, but he's got a hot tub, so we did that. Come on. I can't even get a guy with a bed. That I was like, not on the ground. Alexis is trying to graduate from a futon. Yeah, there's hot tub action happening now. Well, not. Yeah, but not even, like, action. It was totally just, like, hanging out. I mean, super good chemistry, though. But I didn't want to, like, mess it up by just cheapening it, you know? Girl, it is not cheapening it. I mean, he's inviting you at his house. You're in his hot tub. Like, you're telling me nothing happened? No, I won't say we did kiss. Where? Where? Where? Like, where on the body or where? I know. I'm like. Well, kind of like after the hot tub. So it didn't get too steamy. Like, it was almost more. Roman. Let me get you a towel. And then he pulled you in. And then what happened after? After the nice kiss he asked for? Want to hang out a little more, But I thought maybe, you know, it's time to call it. Just to keep it super high point. Yeah. Yeah. Keep him wanting more. Oh, my gosh. If I was him, I would be like, oh, my God. Right? Because you have the kiss, you have the moment. You have your heart racing. I'd be thinking about you every day after that. I don't know. If I was him, I'd feel like I just blew it. She just left. Really? I don't know. So she said it was a romantic kiss? It depends on their vibe. Yeah. Okay. On paper, yeah, I can see. So what happened? So when I left, he said that he was going to be out of town for about two weeks or so. Whoa. Okay. But then, like, he got back and it's just been, like, he texted me one time that he wanted to hang out, but now he keeps saying that he's, like, busy, so I'm like, oh, no. What happened? I mean, did he, like, you Know, meet somebody who was out of town or. That's my first thought. I mean, two weeks is a long time to go between seeing someone in the dating world. Were you able to keep a conversation going with him while he was away? Yeah, we did text a little bit. Okay, how was it? What was the vibe? It was kind of flirty. It was. It was nice. So, you know, it makes it even weirder when he gets back. Like, the texts aren't as flirty. Okay. From experience. I mean, the momentum. Yeah. Without even talking to somebody or a lot. I mean, it definitely changes the momentum. Well, maybe we can change it again. Maybe. Okay, let's give this a shot. We're going to play a song. We'll come back, we're going to call Kurt for you, and we'll try and get you a second date update. Okay, Sydney? Sounds great. Thank you, guys. Okay, second date update. This is a challenge that we've never had before on this morning's show. Okay. That challenge is find the only catch on Tinder and then reel them in without any favorite. Uh. Oh, and the reason that he's a catch is because Kurt not only has good hair and a nice smile, and he's put together on top of all that, he owns a great house with a swimming pool, a floaty staircase, an expensive hot tub, and they even shared a passionate kiss during sunset as a pod of dolphins swam by and did a synchronized water dance to a BTS song. Wow. Wow. They're the shit. And after all that, Sydney still turned down the invitation to spend the night just to try to play the long game with this guy. Wrong move. I feel like Sydney's having regrets after hearing about the dolphins, apparently. He literally was like, hey, I have millions of dollars if you'd like it. And she was like, no, I'm good. The reason why she might have summer dress is because it's been two weeks, and now their conversation has cooled off a lot. So she's hoping that we can turn the heat back up with this second date update. How you feeling right now, Sydney? I'm nervous as heck. I really am. Yeah, we're calling, like, perfect guy. Pretty much. Yeah. I mean, it's interesting because you wanted to play the long I'm cool game, and now you have a radio station calling for you, so. They seem very cool on the phone. Tides have kind of turned. She's like, now I'm having a panic attack. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you for that. I think we can do it, though. I mean, you know, we're like, rich, powerful, People, too. What? I just think we'll impress him. No, we better hurry up and just make this call before this gets any worse than it already is. Yeah, okay, we're broke. We might not pay the phone bill. Yeah, let's just check, make sure it works. But I think if we've learned anything from Sydney, it's start with low expectations, so then it can only go up from there. Yep, that's good. All right, so I'm gonna dial Kurt's phone number right now, and we're gonna try and get you your second date update. You ready, Sydney? Okay, I'm ready. We'll try not to screw it up. No promises, though. Here we go. Hello? Hey, is this Kurt? It's Kurt. Hey, Kurt. How you doing? My name's Jeff. Why was that awkward? Why is that awkward? I don't know. It was awkward, though. I'm sorry for my awkwardness. Kurt. Hi, Kurt. Hi. What's going on? This is a morning radio show called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning. And this is the morning radio show team that apparently doesn't like the job I'm doing. You're not very good at small talk, including just saying your name. All I said was, hi, I'm Jeff. What's up? You said it wrong. I'm a Jeff. Kurt, we have a great reason for calling you, though. Wait, am I in the air right now? Yeah. Is that okay? Okay. Yeah. It's just weird. Cool. Yeah. Did I win something or what happened? Well, the reason that we're calling you, I know both of you, is because one of our listeners has been trying to get a hold of you, and she's been having a hard time lately. Her name's Sydney. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Okay. You remember Sydney? Yeah, I do remember her. So she had you guys call me? Yeah. Yeah. She was just so excited about your date. I mean, now you guys want to talk about the date? Well, kind of. Yeah, sort of. Because we know that a date happened two weeks ago over at your house, and she had a lot of great things to say about you and your place, and she's a little bit confused why now, two weeks later, things have cooled off between you? This is really awkward. Is it Brooke again? Brooke? It is Brooke. Yeah. I apologize for her. Cool. Again, I promise. I mean, the thing is, Kurt, like, she really felt like there was a true connection between you two, and it was something that she wasn't expecting at all, and it really surprised her. I agree. I did think there was potential, to be honest with you. Okay, that's good. I Just, I feel like I. Honestly, I think I kind of screwed up a little bit. You think you screwed up? Why do you say that? Okay, so you're like, she really liked the pool. Yeah, people enjoy it when they come to visit. I get that. But I kind of messed up. I was like, well, you know, you're welcome to use it anytime. Like, I made this comment, and then I went away for a couple weeks for business, and then I found out when I was away that she used the pool multiple times with her friends. Wait, what? While you weren't there? Yeah, she just kept. Over and over, kept coming over with her friend. How would you know that? I have security. You know, cameras, Security footage. Yeah. Yeah, I thought you were gonna say, like, security guards. I'd be like, those are the worst security guards ever. Yeah, my security dog. My security dog. But you told her she could use it whenever. No, wait, hold up. She didn't ask you? No, she didn't mention it. And then, like, the motion sensor triggers, like, I know people are in there. So I. You know, multiple times, I got an alert. You know, people were in the backyard or whatever. And I. When I checked the footage, it was like, yeah, there's apps now. Where. Yeah, we. Yeah, we have one that's the same. You can see it from your phone. Honestly, my brother uses my pool all the time, so I kind of figured it was him. And then when I got back, I was curious to see, like, who had been using the pool, and then it was her over and over. Like, it was like, the ymca. Okay, that is crazy. So you come home and you check your security cams, and you see that it's actually Sydney and her friends using your pool, and that's why you've kind of cooled off towards her. Yeah, I mean, I just feel like she took advantage. Absolutely. Did you warn her that you have security cameras outside your pool? We just had this conversation, like, not too long ago where you said, if anybody comes over to your house, you need to warn them that you have cameras on if you invite someone to your home. She was never invited. Like, that's the thing. Like, when you give an open invitation to somebody saying, oh, use the pool. You know, everyone knows that you asked before you do it, you don't just show up. That's true. It sounded to me like he told her, you can come over at any time. And I don't know if that's true. Maybe we should ask Sydney. Sydney? Is that what he said? Hi. It's not like it's. You're on the call? Yeah. Sorry. I should have let you know, Kurt, that Sydney's been on the other line listening this entire time. She wants to talk to you. After all that now? You didn't let me know. Yes, well, I guess my co host were right. I'm not very good at this job. So I apologize. But go ahead. Sydney. Oh my gosh, I can barely even stand. I'm so horrified right now. I feel so bad. Maybe I was just so excited about like the time we had. I just kind of was like showing off your place to my friends. I don't know. But now I just feel like I messed up so bad and I just. That's not respectful on my part. And I'm so sorry. I feel really bad. I mean. Yeah, I appreciate that. I just. I don't know, it's just a little weird. Uh huh. Cindy, how did you even get into his pool? Like, did you have to scale a fence or something? Yeah, no, there's like a door that isn't kept. One of those ones you just reach over and unload. All my parents have that too. I'm like, why do you have a door then? Sydney, what were you thinking? What do you mean, what was she thinking? Brooke, Pool party. Why? But why wouldn't you ask him? Why wouldn't you say, hey, do you mind if my friends and I come over while you're out? I bet she thought you'd get away with it. I'm asking her. I mean, if you want me to be completely honest here, you're right. I didn't think he would actually know. And I was so excited to show my friends where he lived. I mean, it sounds to me, Kurt, like Sydney realizes that she made a mistake and she's really sorry about what she did. It was just like everything was just thrown around too. Like she didn't even clean up after. There was just like, oh my God, it was just a disaster. I really. Well, she just figured that she would come back the next day. I don't recall that part. And if that's true, I'm super horrified in every way right now. I really. I mean, honestly, this seems unforgivable, but I really hope that you'll just take my word that I'm not a tool. And that like, I'm so sorry and I hope we can give it a second chance is all. At least she's impressed by you, bro. She's trying to show off your pad to her friends. Yeah, and with that being said, we want to send you out on another date. And we'll pay for it. Kurt, if you're willing to give Sidney one more chance. Public pool. I mean, to be fair, Kurt, she didn't. I don't think she's like a gold digger. I don't think she's trying to use you. I mean, it is hard to find a guy with a pool. I know, I know, but she likes. But she liked you for you. Before she knew about the pool. Yeah, that was just a point. She seemed sincere when she told us about. Yeah, yeah. I mean, before you answer, just think about Sydney in her shirt and her no pants, swimming around in your pool. Again, that's not helpful. Did that not help? I don't have to think about it. I've seen the video already. All right, well, just visualize it and then let us know. What do you think? One more shot with Sydney on our bill? I'm sorry, I don't think so. I feel like she blew it. She had a hot rich guy and she blew it. I blew it. This is why you hook up the first night. Everybody swipe right on Kurt hurting the one good Tinder guy. The rest of you guys, you're all welcome to use the pool anytime you want. Sorry, Sydney. Snooze, you lose. Oh, man. We've moved on. 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Podcast Summary: Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update – "The Long Game"
Podcast Information:
In the episode titled "The Long Game," hosts Brooke and Jeffrey delve into a listener’s dating experience that took an unexpected turn. The focus is on Sydney, a listener who initially sought a casual hookup but found herself attempting to cultivate a more meaningful relationship with her date, Kurt, whom she met on Tinder.
Sydney’s First Date Missteps
Sydney recounts her first date with Kurt, highlighting how their interaction began with low expectations typical of Tinder encounters. However, the date exceeded her anticipations when she found Kurt to be charming and sincere.
Kurt impressed Sydney with his composure and engaging demeanor, leading her to shift her intentions from a casual encounter to exploring a potential relationship.
The Decision to Play the Long Game
During the date, Sydney made a conscious decision to "play the long game," opting not to pursue immediate physical intimacy. She envisioned building a deeper connection over time, which is a departure from her initial casual approach.
After the first date, Sydney took advantage of Kurt’s hospitality by using his pool multiple times without prior invitation. This action was facilitated by the open invitation Kurt extended, allowing her and her friends to use the pool anytime.
Sydney’s repeated use of the pool without explicit permission led to misunderstandings and strained the budding relationship. Kurt discovered this through security footage and felt taken advantage of, as Sydney did not seek explicit permission for each visit.
To address the cooling of their relationship, Brooke and Jeffrey took the unconventional step of calling Kurt on the air to mediate the situation and seek a second date update.
During the call, Kurt expressed his disappointment and confusion over Sydney’s actions, feeling that she disregarded his boundaries despite his initial hospitality.
Brooke and Jeffrey analyzed Sydney’s approach, emphasizing the importance of clear communication and respecting boundaries in budding relationships. They highlighted that while the intention to build a relationship was commendable, Sydney’s actions inadvertently conveyed a lack of respect for Kurt’s property and boundaries.
Ultimately, despite the initial connection and Sydney’s genuine remorse, Kurt decided against pursuing a second date, feeling that the trust had been compromised beyond repair.
In "The Long Game," Brooke and Jeffrey explore the delicate balance between fostering a meaningful relationship and respecting personal boundaries. Sydney’s story serves as a cautionary tale about the importance of clear communication and mutual respect in the early stages of dating. The episode underscores that while enthusiasm and genuine interest are vital, understanding and honoring each other's limits are crucial for building trust and lasting connections.
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