Podcast Summary: Brooke and Jeffrey – Second Date Update: Too Handy Not Handsy
Date: August 29, 2025
Hosts: Brooke, Jeffrey, Alexis, Jose
Episode Theme: "Too Handy Not Handsy" – A man's confusion about why his seemingly great first date never called back, only to learn he was being used for his handyman skills.
Episode Overview
This Second Date Update episode explores the story of Davis, who felt a real romantic vibe during a long date at Ashley's house—until she ghosted him. When the hosts get Ashley on the phone, Davis learns he might have unknowingly joined Ashley's pool of "handymen," leaving him hurt, and the hosts alternately amused and dismayed. The episode investigates dating app culture, expectations, and humorously questions modern courtship—especially when “fixing things” takes on a double meaning.
Key Discussion Points and Insights
1. Unusual First Date Setup (07:08-10:55)
- Davis’s recount:
- Met Ashley on a dating app, had a single, 3-hour phone call pre-date.
- Ashley asked Davis to pick her up and gave her actual address.
- Upon arrival, Davis was invited inside for a drink and a tour.
- Hosts’ reactions:
- Surprised by the trust Ashley extended so quickly.
- Joked about safest meet-up spots ("children's toy store," "dark web"), emphasizing the risks.
- Alexis notes: "I know Alexis doesn’t feel comfortable giving guys her apartment, so she always gives them the address to Brooke’s house." (06:00)
2. The Date: Cozy, Conversational, and... Handy? (10:56-15:26)
- Davis and Ashley chatted on her porch instead of going out, felt a strong conversational connection.
- Davis was repeatedly asked to get drinks; he almost let Ashley’s dog, Nugget, escape but managed to retrieve him.
- Davis fixed a porch light and the burner on the stove—earning "handy" points.
- The hosts debated the true definition of "handy," with Brooke teasing:
- Brooke (13:00): "That's not handy, Jeff. Anybody can change a light bulb."
- They shared a goodnight kiss, confirming romantic interest.
3. The Ghosting Mystery (15:27-19:01)
- Davis confused: “If she’s romantically into me, why isn’t she answering my text now?”
- Hosts pondered possible reasons—ranging from accidental dog escapes to romantic confusion, joking, “Maybe it’s handsy that’s the problem.”
- Jeffrey (18:25): "We’ll find out what her problem is. Too handy, even. We don’t know—maybe it’s handsy."
4. Calling Ashley: The Revelation (20:10-29:17)
- Ashley seems unsure who Davis is at first, due to frequent dates.
- Admits: she's in a “free handyman phase”—inviting dates to fix stuff in her house rather than genuinely seeking connection.
- Ashley (25:54): "So I'll set up a meeting with a guy, and they will end up fixing stuff for me ... I'm just gonna be in my free handyman phase."
- The hosts are shocked, confronting the ethics of “using” dating app matches for free labor.
- Jose (26:30): "That’s so messed up. You’re just using these people. You spend hours with them and kiss them."
- Ashley is unapologetic: “If I put ‘just looking for a handyman’ on an app, people are gonna show up thinking that it's an X-rated request.”
- The hosts joke about the blurred lines between romance and chores:
Brooke (29:02): “She just pays you in kisses. What do you think, Davis?”
5. Davis’s Response: Disappointment and Dignity (29:20-31:00)
- Upon learning the truth, Davis feels used and expresses his intent to seek someone genuinely interested in romance.
- Davis (30:15): "My handiness is deserved for someone who loves me."
- Ashley invites him to return if he “wants to fix something else,” but he declines politely.
- The hosts joke about “paying in kisses” and the perils of Davis’ “handyman journey.”
6. Reflection and Takeaways (31:30-35:00)
- The team debates real-life parallels to Ashley’s tactics—are they wrong, or simply pragmatic?
- Brooke (33:10): "She’s just given all the women of the world a great life hack!"
- The blurred boundaries between online dating and gig work are highlighted, with plenty of jokes about masculine pride and standards.
- Jeffrey (34:15): "Never underestimate the shallowness of a guy if it means scoring another date with a cute girl."
- They close out with (mock) offers from other men to help Ashley with home tasks—“at a moment’s notice.”
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
- "I’m just gonna be in my free handyman phase." – Ashley [25:54]
- “My handiness is deserved for someone who loves me.” – Davis [30:15]
- “Anybody can change a light bulb!” – Brooke [13:00]
- “She just pays you in kisses. What do you think, Davis?” – Brooke [29:02]
- “Never underestimate the shallowness of a guy...” – Jeffrey [34:15]
- "It's Davis with an S." – Davis, correcting Ashley [30:40]
Important Timestamps
- 07:08 — Introduction to Davis and his date details
- 10:56 — Porch drinks, dog drama, and lightbulb moment
- 15:27 — The ghosting mystery and speculative reasons
- 20:10 — Calling Ashley: identity confusion and handyman “confession”
- 25:54 — Ashley’s “free handyman phase” explained
- 29:20 — Davis confronts Ashley on being used
- 31:30 — Reflection and group debrief
Tone & Style
- Humorous & Sarcastic: The hosts poke fun at each other and guests with playful banter.
- Blunt & Honest: Davis and Ashley speak plainly about intentions; the hosts call out awkwardness.
- Conversational: Natural flow between hosts and callers, with lively tangents.
Conclusion
This episode delivers both comedic and sobering insights into modern dating, highlighting how expectations, honesty, and self-worth can get lost in translation. Davis’s real hope for romance is derailed by Ashley’s more transactional approach to dating apps—but both worlds are depicted with empathy and (mostly) good humor. The hosts walk the line between teasing, advising, and championing both sides, leaving listeners entertained and a little more wary of being “too handy” on first dates.