Second Date Update UPDATE: 5 Second Holiday Makeout Hack

Summary

Podcast Summary: Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update

Episode Title: Second Date Update UPDATE: 5 Second Holiday Makeout Hack
Release Date: July 17, 2025
Host/Authors: Brooke and Jeffrey
Podcast Platform: iHeartPodcasts

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Introduction

In the "Second Date Update" episode of Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update, hosts Brooke and Jeffrey revisit a couple featured six months prior, discussing the effectiveness of a listener-submitted "5 Second Holiday Makeout Hack." This episode provides an entertaining and insightful follow-up on the couple's relationship journey, offering listeners both humor and valuable dating insights.

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Recap of the Initial Date and the Makeout Hack

Brooke and Jeffrey begin by recalling the couple's first interaction at a work holiday party, where they attempted the "makeout hack"—a bold move to initiate a connection quickly.

Jeffrey (03:35):
"We've all heard the famous cliché, it's like Christmas in July."

Brooke (03:39):
"Yeah."

They explain that the initial attempt at the hack didn't go as planned, setting the stage for the update.

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Introducing the Listener-Submitted Makeout Hack

The central focus of the episode is a dating tactic submitted by a listener, purportedly capable of securing a kiss within moments of meeting someone.

Jeffrey (04:35):
"I'm a high price. Wow. I don't know about that move, but one of our listeners says he was taught something that he claims can get any Member of the opposite sex to go in for the kiss right after you meet them."

Brooke expresses skepticism, questioning the feasibility of such a rapid connection.

Brooke (04:35):
"I'm going to tell you, it is hard to imagine this working. No."

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Listener Call-In: Joseph and Katrina Share Their Experience

Joseph, a listener who attempted the makeout hack, joins the conversation to provide firsthand insight into the tactic's effectiveness.

Katrina (05:03):
"She said if you've been making eye contact with a woman, you know, at a bar or an event or maybe a party, all you have to do is walk up to her and you have to be nonchalant, look at them and say, hey, you're pretty. You want to make out."

Despite initial discomfort, Joseph decided to try the move at a work holiday party, leading to an unexpected and successful outcome.

Katrina (06:37):
"When the drinks came and this is an open bar. The Courage Juice came in and I spotted this really, really cute girl, and I went up to her and I gave the line and she was like, you know what? It's the holidays. Why not shut."

Brooke and Jeffrey react with amusement and intrigue, discussing the spontaneity and boldness of the approach.

Jeffrey (07:01):
"You're the most annoying person on the train because you're laughing so much?"

Brooke (07:11):
"We did. We did. Because she said nine out of 10 times, they'll go for it."

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Deep Dive into the Experience and Outcomes

As the conversation progresses, Joseph reveals an inconsistency that adds a twist to the story.

Joseph (13:28):
"So I don't know if this is what Joseph told you, but we ended up making out. It's not usually the order in which I do things, but we made out and then we had a talk."

He uncovers that Joseph falsely claimed to work at Katrina's company, leading to confusion and initial frustration.

Joseph (13:28):
"So, I looked him up, and there is no record of this guy working at my company."

Brooke and Jeffrey probe deeper, uncovering that the move was instigated by Katrina's friend, adding layers to the narrative.

Katrina (15:48):
"This came from a friend of mine who does work there, and she gave me a move."

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Second Date Update: From Makeout to Roommates

Six months later, Brooke and Jeffrey reconnect with Joseph and Katrina to learn about the progression of their relationship.

Brooke (21:15):
"I can't believe they're both here."

Surprisingly, Joseph and Katrina reveal that they've opted to live together as roommates rather than pursuing a romantic relationship.

Joseph (21:19):
"Well, actually, on the date, we found out that both our leases happened to be ending at the same time...so I was like, dude, why don't you just come live with me?"

This unexpected development showcases a mature and practical approach to their connection, highlighting the different directions relationships can take.

Katrina (22:08):
"Well, I'm not gonna lie. At first it wasn't easy... but I couldn't help but to feel a little bit jealous."

However, they overcame initial feelings, emphasizing the importance of compatibility and friendship.

Katrina (22:29):
"I guess it was her, man. Like, just her actually being the best roommate I've ever had."

Brooke and Jeffrey commend their decision, celebrating their platonic partnership.

Jeffrey (22:58):
"It's a really rare thing on this show to hear I got a friend for life out of a second date update."

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Conclusion and Reflections

Brooke and Jeffrey conclude the episode with reflections on the unpredictability of relationships and the benefits of genuine connections, whether romantic or platonic.

Brooke (23:02):
"Why do I want another update in six months? Yeah."

They encourage listeners to remain open to various outcomes in their dating journeys, emphasizing that every experience offers valuable lessons.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Jeffrey (03:35): "We've all heard the famous cliché, it's like Christmas in July."

• Brooke (04:35): "I'm going to tell you, it is hard to imagine this working. No."

• Katrina (05:03): "You want to make out with the attitude of not really wanting to and don't care."

• Joseph (13:28): "We made out and then we had a talk."

• Katrina (15:48): "This came from a friend of mine who does work there, and she gave me a move."

• Joseph (21:19): "Why don't you just come live with me?"

• Katrina (22:29): "She's actually being the best roommate I've ever had."

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Key Takeaways

1. Dating Tactics: The "makeout hack," while bold, can lead to unexpected outcomes, emphasizing the need for authenticity in interactions.

2. Relationship Dynamics: Not all connections lead to romance; some evolve into meaningful friendships, highlighting the diverse paths relationships can take.

3. Communication and Honesty: Transparency from the start can prevent misunderstandings and foster healthier connections.

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Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update continues to offer listeners a blend of humor, real-life stories, and practical dating advice, making it a go-to resource for those navigating the complexities of modern relationships.

Transcript

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[Ruthie Rogers]

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[Ali]

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[Brooke]

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[Ali]

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[Brooke]

Listen to Ruthie's Table 4 of the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Ooh, in for a treat today. We got an update update. Hey, it's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Now, the way these work is we want to make sure everybody's on the same page because honestly, we need to re listen to this stuff. When Jeff tells us, oh, you know that couple that was on the show six months ago? They're back. We're like, yeah, we don't. We don't remember what happened.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah. So remember six minutes ago.

[Brooke]

Ye. So we're going to replay the original episode when they were on, and then after, we're going to have them back on the phone and tell us what's happened since. What's happened since. So you got to stick around through the whole thing on this one. And comments. We love those. Yes. I saw one from Yuki, who said, on my way from Germany to a vacation in Norway and listening to this while on the bus. The best time killer ever. It is such a foreign thought for us in the. In the States. Like, to be able to be on a bus and go to Norway. I know.

[Jeffrey]

Are you the most annoying person on the train because you're laughing so much?

[Brooke]

Yeah, I love it. All right, let's get this update update started right now.

[Jeffrey]

We've all heard the famous cliche, it's like Christmas in July.

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

Well, we're literally doing it.

[Brooke]

What do you mean?

[Jeffrey]

Because we did a second date call back in December featuring two potential lovers who met at a work holiday party.

[Joseph]

Okay.

[Jeffrey]

And even though that night didn't go the way they planned, and frankly, our call with them didn't go much better, somehow we've got them both back on the phone for a very surprising second date. Update. Update. It's a Christmas in July special, and it happens next. Second date update. Alexis, is there one sentence a random guy could say to you that would make you instantly want to kiss him? Write these down. Gentlemen, other than. Ma', am, can I get your license and registration, please? Oh, yeah, he's going to get your.

[Brooke]

What about asking for, like, my Starbucks order? Oh, you know, simple. Buying me a coffee, that changes my whole day. I thought you had a higher price of espresso rice.

[Jeffrey]

I'm a high price. Wow. I don't know about that move, but one of our listeners says he was taught something that he claims can get any Member of the opposite sex to go in for the kiss right after you meet them.

[Brooke]

Okay, I'm sorry.

[Jeffrey]

After you meet them? Right. When you meet them. That's wild. I don't believe this. I'm curious to find out what it is, so let's talk to Joseph. Now, Joseph, you got to be careful because we all might try to kiss you once we hear it. But tell us about this move that you learned.

[Katrina]

Okay, well, I want to make this apparent. I want to make this known right now. I didn't even develop this. This came from a female friend of mine.

[Brooke]

Okay.

[Jeffrey]

Okay.

[Katrina]

Yeah. She said if you've been making eye contact with a woman, you know, at a bar or an event or maybe a party, all you have to do is walk up to her and you have to be nonchalant, look at them and say, hey, you're pretty. You want to make out. With the attitude of not really wanting to and don't care.

[Jeffrey]

Hey, you're. Hey, you're pretty. Want to make out?

[Brooke]

I'm going to tell you, it is hard to imagine this working. No. Okay. If you're attracted to the person, though, it works. If it's someone you're not attracted to, it's not going to work.

[Jeffrey]

She's right. How did you feel hearing that word of advice from your friend?

[Katrina]

It was horrible. I was so uncomfortable. I'm like, yeah. I'm like, this would never work. I'm going to get slapped.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. There's no magic.

[Brooke]

Yeah. Despite your better logic, you tried it.

[Katrina]

We did. We did. Because she said nine out of 10 times, they'll go for it. So she was like, you know, we're going to go to a holiday party at her job, a work event.

[Brooke]

Oh, my God.

[Jeffrey]

At a work event.

[Brooke]

It's not his work.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah. Okay.

[Katrina]

It's hers. It's hers.

[Jeffrey]

But still, he's going to be. Oh, you're the girl that brought the guy.

[Brooke]

I wish this happened at our holiday parties.

[Jeffrey]

How many people work at her? Oh, yeah. At her office or wherever she is.

[Katrina]

Man, it's like hundreds. Hundreds.

[Jeffrey]

You got a big cool.

[Brooke]

Where they throw actually cool parties. Yeah.

[Katrina]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Brooke]

I've been to those.

[Katrina]

Yeah. So it was like an open bar. And she said, you know, a lot of cute girls work with her at her company. So I was like, okay. You know, with the skepticism, you know, and she also told me that, you know, we didn't have to hang, hang around each other. Just get out there, mingle, and that's what we did?

[Brooke]

Oh, yeah. Because I was worried that you were going to look like the boyfriend. You know, if everyone asks, who's your. Like, how are you there? People are like, how are you there with hundreds? When you go to those big ones, nobody asks.

[Jeffrey]

No, no.

[Brooke]

Because what department do you work in?

[Jeffrey]

Yeah. So you. You just went to the party, and first cute girl you saw, you just walked right up to her and used the line.

[Katrina]

Oh, no, that is not how that happened. I was. I was standing around for at least an hour and a half. Just. I was nervous.

[Jeffrey]

Think about this. Meeting someone for the first time who's attractive is a little nerve wracking. Right? The first kiss is always nerve wracking. Doing them at the same time and.

[Brooke]

In, like, a public event, you can't just go to your bedroom like you're in O. And you better not have eaten any of the appetizers because you want to have good breath.

[Joseph]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

So, like, at what point did you actually try it or did you get there?

[Katrina]

When the drinks came and this is an open bar. The Courage Juice came in and I spotted this really, really cute girl, and I went up to her and I gave the line and she was like, you know what? It's the holidays. Why not shut. And she grabbed me by the hand, led me to a quiet corner, and we made out.

[Brooke]

No. Oh, my God. It wasn't even just like a quick kiss or anything.

[Jeffrey]

She got another location to kiss. That's kind of cool.

[Katrina]

It was crazy.

[Brooke]

At what point did you learn her.

[Jeffrey]

Name in the middle of it? My name's Jess. Did you get the name?

[Katrina]

She did give me the name. Her name was Katrina.

[Brooke]

Okay.

[Jeffrey]

Okay.

[Katrina]

We talked like 10, 15 minutes after our makeout.

[Brooke]

So you made a connection, get all the.

[Jeffrey]

All the hard stuff out of the.

[Brooke]

Way, but then what? The night ends? Or you, like, do you.

[Jeffrey]

Or how many other women. How many other women do you use this on at the work party?

[Katrina]

No, no, it was. It was just her. And she gave me her number and it was like, wow. I was like, I can't believe that actually worked.

[Brooke]

Did you guys get to connect? Did you talk after? Have you texted or anything?

[Katrina]

It was like here and there, so some.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, okay.

[Katrina]

Yeah. Yeah, Just a little bit.

[Jeffrey]

Maybe she feels awkward for making out with somebody at her own work party. You know what?

[Brooke]

A woman who leads a man into a corner is not embarrassed.

[Katrina]

She doesn't remember.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah. After an hour and a half of drinking, I mean, that. What about Hope?

[Joseph]

She.

[Jeffrey]

What does your friend say about her coworker like, did you tell her what happened?

[Katrina]

Kind of. I told my friend that the move worked, and she was like, oh, my God, who was it? But I didn't want to say because, you know, I didn't want to, like, have it weird for her, like, at her company.

[Brooke]

What, she brought you and told you to do it? I mean, honestly, there's so many people that work there, she may not even know her. She could be a plus one of somebody.

[Katrina]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, that's a good point. There's a lot of. Okay, so your friend doesn't know who it is, and you've been trying to reach Katrina for how long?

[Katrina]

For a little second now.

[Jeffrey]

A little second.

[Brooke]

Okay, well, actually have a date and see if there's, like, a real connection there.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, a sober date or starting sober, maybe. That doesn't sound very fun. Okay, maybe not sober, but a date. Yeah. Well, we'll try and arrange something for you with you and Kadun Katrina when we come back. Get you your second date update right after this. Hold on. Second date update?

[Brooke]

You're in the middle of a second date update, update. And we're gonna find out how the couple is doing right after you hear part two.

[Jeffrey]

Today we learned about a hot dating hack. Yeah, well, kind of. Yeah, sorta. Where apparently, if you go up to any woman with a nonchalant attitude and casually say, hey, you're cute, you wanna make out. A lot of times if they're single, they'll say yes to that.

[Katrina]

Wow.

[Jeffrey]

And maybe even if they're not single, if you deliver it the right way.

[Brooke]

Apparently Jeff isn't nonchalant enough because nobody in this room is making out with him yet. He's saying it over and over.

[Jeffrey]

I did not do it right. But no, the thing is, we never asked, what do you do if the response back is no or what? Yeah. Or just something besides yes. Who are you?

[Brooke]

You are embarrassed and you shy away.

[Jeffrey]

Well, that's not a good look.

[Brooke]

You hope that you never see them again.

[Jeffrey]

Let's. Our listener, Joseph, if any of our listeners want to try this move for themselves, what are you supposed to say to a rejection?

[Katrina]

Well, if they say no, you say, yeah, no problem. Just find me when you're ready.

[Brooke]

Oh, no problem. Just find me when you're ready.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, my God, that's so. Oh. I want them to say no because. Because then you really don't care. You're like, okay, no worries. Change your mind.

[Brooke]

I would have said, me neither. I don't want to. I wasn't asking you.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

By the way, can we not call him out on this as a move that he like? Or it was even a bet, like.

[Jeffrey]

When she picks up, don't be like, the trick worked on you.

[Brooke]

You know, the thing is, is that he really likes her. That's why we're calling Brook.

[Jeffrey]

Why are you looking at me for that? Alexis is the one that usually ruins these boys.

[Brooke]

Alexis.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, Constant chatty Kathy over there dropping all the show sequences.

[Brooke]

You are so self aware.

[Jeffrey]

Alexis is here. All right, Alexis, pipe down. We're going to call this girl, all right? Don't ruin this for us. Here we go.

[Joseph]

Hello?

[Jeffrey]

Hey, is this Katrina?

[Joseph]

Yes, it's Katrina.

[Brooke]

Oh, yay.

[Jeffrey]

Hey, good morning.

[Brooke]

Hey, Katrina.

[Joseph]

Who is this?

[Brooke]

Great question.

[Jeffrey]

This is a morning show. We're called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning, and we are very, very eager to talk to you. You want to do a second date or something? It's whatever. If you.

[Joseph]

Wow. Okay. How did you reach me? This is kind of o.

[Jeffrey]

It's hard to answer that because we got an email from one of our listeners that met you recently at a holiday party named Joseph.

[Joseph]

Oh, Joseph. Okay. Yep, I remember him.

[Jeffrey]

Good.

[Brooke]

How would you describe him.

[Joseph]

Flat out? I guess I describe him as a liar.

[Jeffrey]

A liar?

[Brooke]

What do you mean?

[Jeffrey]

Like, he lies down a lot. He likes to nap.

[Brooke]

Oh, I'm a liar?

[Joseph]

No, he just completely lied to me. I met him. Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

Wait.

[Brooke]

Yeah. You had such a brief interaction with.

[Jeffrey]

This guy, at least according to him, what we've heard.

[Joseph]

Oh, so he told you all about it?

[Jeffrey]

Yeah.

[Joseph]

So I don't know if this is what Joseph told you, but we ended up making out. It's not usually the order in which I do things, but we made out and then we had a talk.

[Jeffrey]

You don't normally do it that way. That's how we do it. So.

[Joseph]

No, I do not. This is definitely different for me. But then he tells me he works at my company. Someone's like, what are you doing here? I don't recognize you. So I looked him up, and there is no record of this guy working at my company.

[Brooke]

I don't know why he said that. Okay. But to be fair, sometimes my friends now meet people at the bar, and you could just make stuff up, and then you don't think you're gonna end up liking them. Right, but you've already made up, like, oh, yeah, I work in whatever. I. That makes sense, Alexis, like. Or it's just easier, right? It's just easier to say, yeah, I work here, too.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, totally. Maybe he owns stock in the company. And in a way that's like financially responsible for part owner of the company.

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

What. What was that CBS show? Undercover Boss or something? It's like, oh, yeah, I work here and it's like, oh, no, actually, I own the whole thing. Maybe. Maybe some. Maybe some sort of, like, misunderstanding situation like that.

[Joseph]

Okay, I highly doubt that was the case.

[Brooke]

Okay, so you're just mad because he lied to you about working?

[Joseph]

Yeah, there was no reason for him to. So I don't know how to respond to this guy because I don't know who he is. Does he just crash in the party? Is he some kind of pervert?

[Brooke]

Why would you go to pervert? I mean, why don't you just text him?

[Jeffrey]

You don't have to text him or do anything like that. Because actually, Joseph is on the other line right now waiting to talk to you.

[Joseph]

Seriously?

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, in a non pervy way. Quietly listening.

[Joseph]

In the whole time he's been listening. Oh, God, no.

[Jeffrey]

It's because he likes you. Joseph, tell her.

[Katrina]

Katrina, I am so sorry. I just. Let me just start out with that. I want to apologize.

[Jeffrey]

Good start.

[Katrina]

I forgot that I did tell you those things, and I want to tell you where that's coming from. I'm not a pervert. I'm not a stalker. Any. Any creepo. Nothing like that.

[Jeffrey]

Do you work there?

[Katrina]

I don't work there.

[Joseph]

Okay, no, no, no.

[Brooke]

He just said that.

[Katrina]

All right, I'm gonna tell you something. I'm gonna be transparent. This came from a friend of mine who does work there, and she gave me a move. If I want to say it like that. As far as. If I do this particular thing, if I say, hey, I think you're pretty, do you want to make out? I can make out with any woman at that party.

[Brooke]

It is a female friend that told him to do this. I think that's very important.

[Jeffrey]

Thanks, Brooke. Yeah.

[Joseph]

You just went there specifically to test.

[Jeffrey]

Out your move when it was his friend is the one who was encouraging him. Because Joseph did not think.

[Brooke]

Who's saying no to a free holiday party with the open bar? I mean, my friend worked at a big company. Like. Yeah, I went.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah. If you should be mad at anybody, be mad at Joseph's friend for pressuring him to kiss you.

[Brooke]

Female friend.

[Jeffrey]

Female friend.

[Brooke]

I do think that's so important.

[Joseph]

Okay, I've crashed parties before. That makes sense.

[Jeffrey]

He was invited.

[Brooke]

Yeah, he didn't crash it.

[Jeffrey]

And the only was I work there.

[Katrina]

That's it.

[Brooke]

Right? You didn't lie about anything else, did You, Joseph?

[Jeffrey]

I should ask that.

[Katrina]

No, no, no. That was it. That was it. Because, Katrina, you didn't need to lie about that.

[Joseph]

Joseph, you could have told me the truth.

[Katrina]

No, not really.

[Jeffrey]

I came here to try out this line that my friend gave me, but.

[Brooke]

Yeah, no, about where you work. Not that part.

[Joseph]

Yes, it works. I guess it works. I got to admit, it worked.

[Katrina]

Okay, so.

[Joseph]

So I'm kind of curious. Would that line work if a girl tried it on a guy?

[Jeffrey]

Of course.

[Brooke]

Well, yeah, I think it'd work even better.

[Joseph]

I think it would, too, actually.

[Brooke]

The hard part is going to be finding a guy who you actually want to make out with.

[Jeffrey]

Why are you asking that?

[Joseph]

To be honest, my boss is recently single.

[Jeffrey]

Oh, God.

[Joseph]

And I had my eye on him.

[Katrina]

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. That's not the way is it supposed to be going? No.

[Jeffrey]

What's going on?

[Brooke]

Your boss?

[Jeffrey]

You want to try this on your boss?

[Joseph]

I would like to try it. I mean, not smart.

[Brooke]

Don't do that.

[Jeffrey]

Keep it equivalent. Trust me, I've tried a lot of moves on our bosses, and none of them work, so it's. I don't think it's a good idea.

[Brooke]

Jeffrey hasn't gotten a raise in over five years.

[Jeffrey]

No, I keep getting demoted.

[Joseph]

Listen, I don't even know who the hell you guys are, so don't tell me what to do.

[Brooke]

Yeah, but you got the idea from us. No, no, from him.

[Joseph]

Joseph. Joseph's got some smooth moves, and maybe I should.

[Jeffrey]

Well, are you going to kiss Joseph again? Because the whole reason that we're doing this call is because after you guys kissed, he felt like you had a really great connection and wanted to take it a little bit farther and go out on a real date. And we would pay for that date if you're willing to see him again.

[Joseph]

Yeah, I mean, maybe Joseph could be my wingman.

[Katrina]

No, no, Katrina, come on. I'm pouring out my heart here. I like you. I want to get to know you.

[Jeffrey]

You guys had a connection. Give it a chance with Joseph, and once that burns out, then you can go after your boss. There you go.

[Joseph]

You know, I'm willing to go on a friendly date. As friends.

[Brooke]

As friends.

[Joseph]

As friends.

[Brooke]

Do we cover friendly dates?

[Joseph]

We can exchange dating tricks and tips.

[Brooke]

Dude, you went from kissing this woman in the first five seconds to now you're her friend.

[Jeffrey]

Absolute friend zone wingman.

[Brooke]

I have never been not this excited about friendship in my life. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Okay, that was the end of the original second date that they were on. Oh, my God. Now we do have to play just a quick commercial, okay? Because we do have to pay for this show somehow. And we're gonna be back right after this with both of them on the phone to see what's happened since. Stay here.

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[Brooke]

So what happened at Chappaquiddick?

[Jeffrey]

Well, it really depends on who you talk to. There are many versions of what happened in 1969 when a young Ted Kennedy drove a car into a pond and.

[Joseph]

Left a woman behind to drown.

[Jeffrey]

There's a famous headline, I think in the New York Daily News, it's Teddy escapes blonde drowns. And in a strange way, right, that sort of tells you the story really became about Ted's political future, Ted's political hope. Will Ted become president? Kappaquiddick is a story of a tragic death and how the Kennedy machine took control.

[Brooke]

And he's not the only Kennedy to survive a scandal.

[Jeffrey]

The Kennedys have lived through disgrace, affairs, violence, you name it. So is there a curse? Every week we go behind the headlines and beyond the drama of America's royal family.

[Unknown]

Listen to United States of Kennedy on.

[Brooke]

The iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Jeffrey]

Well, that call was from last Christmas. And now we've got Joseph and Katrina back on the phone to give us an update.

[Brooke]

I can't believe they're both here.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, Katrina, what's happened in the last, like six to seven months since we last spoke?

[Joseph]

Well, we've actually moved in together.

[Jeffrey]

Wait, wait, wait, wait. What?

[Brooke]

Wait, who? You and your. Yeah, you and Joseph or you and your boss?

[Joseph]

Me and Joseph?

[Jeffrey]

No.

[Joseph]

Me and Joseph?

[Jeffrey]

You guys are together like that? Well, he's laughing.

[Joseph]

Not like together. We're just as friends.

[Brooke]

Oh, that's why you're laughing. Oh, you're laughing, Joseph. Cause we assumed you guys had a romantic thing.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, how did that happen?

[Joseph]

Well, actually, on the date, we found out that both our leases happened to be ending at the same time, my roommate was moving out. And so I was like, dude, why don't you just come live with me? Look, we can save some money. We've already got this great rapport.

[Brooke]

Joseph, are you cool with this?

[Jeffrey]

Like, yeah. That must have been hard for you, because the last time that we spoke, you seemed interested romantically in her, and Katrina was the one saying you should be friends.

[Katrina]

Well, I'm not gonna lie. At first it wasn't easy. Like, especially when she was bringing guys over. And just as a male, we're kind of territorial. So I couldn't help but to feel.

[Joseph]

Just a little bit jealous.

[Katrina]

Jealous?

[Brooke]

Oh, no, stop. Oh, stop. Wait. So how did you get over it? How did you get over feelings for.

[Katrina]

Oh, I guess it was her, man. Like, just her actually being the best roommate I've ever had. Like, the situation is amazing. Everything is always on point, on time. She's awesome.

[Jeffrey]

You could say two weeks of crying. Joseph, it's okay. You could say you cried for a long time. It's all right.

[Brooke]

To me, it sounds like he's not.

[Katrina]

Over it, but you never know.

[Jeffrey]

It sounds like you two are in a good place. And it's a really rare thing on this show to hear I got a friend for life out of a second date update.

[Brooke]

Why do I want another update in six months? Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

That'S really cool, but yeah, definitely keep us posted on what's going on in your lives. That's your second date. Update. Update. It's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. We finally switched to T Mobile because they know that those of us here and there want to stay well connected.

[Brooke]

Let's watch a movie.

[Jeffrey]

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[Ruthie Rogers]

T mobile.com the Girlfriends is back with a new season and this time I'm telling you The Story of Kelly Harnett Kelly spent over a decade in prison for a murder she says she didn't commit. As she fought for her freedom, she taught herself the law.

[Brooke]

He goes oh God. Harnett Jailhouse Lawyer and became a beacon.

[Ruthie Rogers]

Of hope for the women locked up alongside her.

[Joseph]

You're supposed to have your faith in God, but I had nothing but faith in her.

[Brooke]

I think I was put here to save souls by getting people out of prison.

[Ruthie Rogers]

The Girlfriends Jailhouse Lawyer listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Agusto Papa]

What's up guys? Welcome to the Agusto Papa Podcast, the go to spot for everything Musica Mexicana. We're proud Mexican Americans who live and breathe this music. We started this podcast to share and discuss our view reviews of Musica Mexicana. Whether you like to vibe to Peso Pluma los alegre del Varanco are El Camacho or Puri Van Cornejo. When you get in feels then this podcast is for you. Well actually Peso was supposed to be on Chinito's album. The song with Drake was supposed to be with Peso. Listen to Agusto Pa on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.

[Janae Cheekies]

Hey guys, it's Janae AKA Cheekies from Cheekies and Chill Podcast and I'm bringing you an all new mini podcast series called called Sincerely Janae. Sure, I'm a singer, author, businesswoman and podcaster, but at the end of the day I am human and that's why I'm sharing my ups and downs with you in real time and on the go. Listen to Cheekies and chill on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Ruthie Rogers]

Hello, this is Ruthie Rogers, host of Ruthie's Table 4.

[Ali]

Ali called me the stray dog because I would always turn up at my mate's house at mealtime.

[Brooke]

This week I'm talking to Bono.

[Ali]

All of my ideas about social justice, or rather the lack of it, came from my father too. People have to have health, housing and education drilled into me and his values.

[Brooke]

Listen to Ruthie's Table 4 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.