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Jeffrey
We are just riding the high right now. Thank you so much again for all of your support. This Spotify wrapped has got us just in the feels.
Phil
Yeah.
Mandy
Comments and all your love.
Jeffrey
Yeah. Honestly, it reminds us why we do this and that. That is so cool.
Brooke
So somebody asked me how many minutes I have listened to our show.
Jeffrey
Yes, all of them.
Brooke
I was like, I literally. It's not in my top. And they were shocked. I'm like, I do the show, you think I go home and listen.
Mandy
But these people beat us because they listen back years and years and years. So they actually win.
Brooke
They know us more than us.
Jeffrey
Absolutely. Well, welcome to the second date podcast. Thank you so much for being here. Before we get to a brand new update Update, Remember, the way this works is we're going to air the original time that the couple was on the show. And then in part three, we're going to have them back on the phone to see what's happen.
Mandy
And there's gonna be a little commercial in between. So listen to it, script it, you know, whatever you want.
Jeffrey
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. And comment.
Mandy
Yes. Cindy said Spotify says I'm in the top 1% of Second Date Update listeners. At this point, I'm emotionally invested in strangers who can't text back.
Jeffrey
Yep, that's it. That's it. That's the whole thing.
Mandy
Love from South Africa.
Jeffrey
That's the other cool thing. We've reached over 165 countries this year, which is crazy.
Brooke
I didn't even know there was that many. I was like, well, there's like 20. Yeah.
Mandy
I love looking at the list. There's like two listeners in one country and I'm like, I need to meet those two people.
Jeffrey
Absolutely. So thank you again for being here. Your brand new update Update starts right now.
Jeff
Sometimes at the end of a nice dinner date, your waiter will come and say something that just makes you feel both, like, really, really good. Oh, you know, like, you two make a really cute couple.
Jeffrey
Oh, that would be nice.
Jeff
You are my favorite table tonight by far.
Jeffrey
I think it's telling the truth.
Jeff
Oh, gosh. Love to secretly film you two kissing.
Mandy
Oh, no.
Brooke
That's a cute couple.
Jeff
That's nice. Well, it went a little bit differently for the people on the phone with us today. They got maybe the most awkward cringe comment a server could possibly say to A couple at the end of their night. And yet still they made it through. And they are back to give us a special second date update update. And who knows what Common will say at the end of it? You're gonna hear it right after this second date update. Brooke, what's that filter that you like to use on Instagram to make yourself look like 15 years younger?
Jeffrey
There's no filter, sweetheart. It's just Life.
Jeff
It's the FaceTime filter that you pay extra for because the live filtering on the videos, that. That costs a lot more.
Jeffrey
Don't use a filter, Jeff.
Jeff
Sure, yeah.
Jeffrey
FaceTime is. You mean FaceTune, I think is actually what you mean. Yeah, whatever.
Jeff
It's broken, Jeff.
Jeffrey
Right behind the mic over there.
Jeff
But I only bring it up because in today's second date update, age was at the forefront of the conversation, at least in the email that I just read from our listener, Phil.
Brooke
And I heard from experience that people get a little spicy when you talk about age, Jeff.
Jeff
A little bit.
Jeffrey
But apparently, I don't know.
Jeff
He is worried that it may have been a factor during his date. So let's talk. Talk to him. Phil. Phil, welcome to the show. Can you hear me?
Brooke
I do not.
Jeff
Talking to the bottom part of the phone.
Phil
I'm not. Okay, so here's what happened.
Jeff
Okay, we haven't asked you that question yet. You're going a little quick.
Jeffrey
Can you take us off speakerphone, Phil?
Phil
Here we go. Is that better?
Jeff
That's way better, Phil. Good job.
Jeffrey
You can teach old dogs new tricks.
Jeff
All right, man. Officially, welcome to the show. How you doing today?
Phil
Doing good. Doing good.
Jeffrey
After all of that, you still like us.
Brooke
And you even sound younger off speaker.
Jeffrey
Shocking.
Jeff
Let's go straight to your date here. Tell us about the girl that you met recently. What's her name?
Phil
Mandy.
Jeff
Okay, Mandy.
Jeffrey
Okay, good.
Jeff
And.
Jeffrey
And I'm guessing you didn't meet Mandy on an app.
Phil
I did meet Mandy on an app.
Jeff
Was it the app Coffee meets Metamucil?
Jeffrey
Jeff, that's low. That's too low.
Phil
No, it was Tinder.
Jeff
I deserve that.
Jeffrey
I like Phil spicy. Yeah, that's good.
Brooke
We like it.
Jeff
Okay, so walk us through the meeting and the meetup with Mandy.
Phil
Yes. So we went to this really great seafood spot.
Jeffrey
Oh, that's cool. So it's good. It's a dinner date. And what were you feeling beforehand? Were you nervous? Excited?
Mandy
Yeah.
Phil
You know, recently divorced. It's been a long time since I had a first date, so I was a little nervous.
Jeffrey
Congratulations on getting back out there.
Phil
Thank You? Yeah.
Jeff
Okay.
Phil
Nice to hear something nice.
Brooke
Eventually, we become kind.
Jeffrey
We actually got your back, Phil. We got your back.
Jeff
That's good. So you go to the seafood restaurant where food is easy to chew. And how did it go?
Phil
The conversation's good. There is some talk about social media. Yeah, I thought it was really interesting. She really liked the TikTok. I'm more of a Facebook guy. Yeah, I actually downloaded it. She got me, you know, interested in no matter what. I'm going to think Mandy for that.
Jeffrey
Were you guys able to connect over other things?
Phil
Yeah, you know, we talked about a lot of stuff. It goes really good. We talked about, like, our first concerts.
Jeffrey
Oh, I bet that was a big difference.
Phil
Mine was a Smith in 89, when rock was real.
Jeffrey
Oh, okay.
Jeff
Okay.
Phil
And hers was, in fact, Ariana Grande.
Jeffrey
Okay, okay.
Brooke
That does show her age a little bit.
Jeffrey
But hey, like we said, you were honest. You knew what she was getting into.
Jeff
That's good. And the fact that you're connecting is a great sign, no matter what it is you're talking about. As long as the conversation is going smoothly, that's perfect. So take us to the end of the date. How did you wrap it up?
Phil
So that was where it got a little embarrassing.
Brooke
Okay, what happened?
Phil
A little embarrassing? The waiter came to give us our bill, and then he said, we hope you and your daughter have enjoyed this meal.
Jeff
So now you're in a tough position because you can either let it slide and just brush it off, or you confront the situation head on and tell him no.
Jeffrey
You just start making out and really.
Mandy
Freak the waiter out.
Jeff
That's option.
Brooke
Yeah, I like that idea.
Jeff
How did you handle it, Phil?
Phil
You know, sometimes you just have to take it on the chin.
Jeffrey
Did you get any read on her reaction to that moment?
Phil
Not really. I was a little taken aback. I was a little embarrassed myself.
Jeffrey
Okay, okay.
Mandy
Don't you think when you're out with someone older, you expect it? Like, everybody plays that game where you see a couple like that out and you're like, you think they're a couple or just a dad and daughter.
Jeffrey
Yeah.
Mandy
And then you see people in line.
Brooke
Actually, you're sorry. Sometimes it's fun to play that game. Gold digger situation. Are they related?
Phil
So.
Jeff
Okay, okay.
Jeffrey
Have you reached out to her since the date?
Phil
I have. I just haven't heard back. And I don't want to be one of those people that over text, you know?
Jeff
What are you doing? Are you just doing straight phone calls?
Phil
I can text.
Jeff
Oh, really?
Jeffrey
We're acting like he's 85 years old. You got to be in, like, your 50s or something, right? Your 60s.
Phil
No comment. No.
Jeff
Okay.
Brooke
All right.
Jeff
Well, a lot of times a good way to, like, reach people now is through dms.
Jeffrey
Yeah, but he has a number. He called a radio station. He's cool enough to listen to our show. We're gonna call her.
Jeff
It's just because we're calling from a random number. She might not pick up when we dial her, but maybe she will. Maybe she'll give us a chance and we can talk to her and hopefully get an answer for why she hasn't called you back to hang out again. Cuz you sound like a great guy.
Phil
Well, thanks for that. It's once again nice to hear a second nice thing. Well, there you go.
Jeffrey
Maybe by the end of this, you'll have your whole finger full of nice things.
Jeff
We're gonna think of lots of compliments to give to you and about you when we call Mandy and get you your second date update right after this. Okay?
Phil
All right.
Jeff
All right, man.
Jeffrey
Hold on.
Jeff
Second date update.
Jeffrey
You're in the middle of a second date update update. And we're gonna find out how the couple is. Is doing right after you hear part two.
Jeff
Playing a little Aerosmith for our listener Phil.
Brooke
Lighters in the air, baby.
Jeffrey
Yeah, Real light.
Jeff
In honor of the very first concert that he ever went to back in 1989. And I bet he never thought back then that he'd be on a hot date today with a cute girl named Mandy, whose first concert was Ariana Grande. A little bit of an age difference there. Which only came to light when their waiter dropped off the bill at their table and said, we hope you and your daughter enjoyed your time here.
Jeffrey
So bummer.
Jeff
Kind of an awkward moment, but, hey, Phil rolled with it. Unfortunately, though, he's not getting a response back from Mandy afterwards. And that's where we come in trying to help Phil.
Brooke
Are we worried she is hitting him up, but it's on tick tock, and he just doesn't know how to work it.
Phil
Stop it.
Jeffrey
He is not that old a.
Brooke
Okay.
Jeffrey
I mean, he's rusty because he was divorced, and this is.
Jeff
That's right.
Jeffrey
I mean, the one thing you may not understand is that there's a lot of, like, ghosting in dating now. Like, it's pretty normal, and some people.
Mandy
Just like to go out for a dinner.
Phil
Yeah, yeah.
Brooke
No, that's a good point.
Jeff
Phil. Did you know that?
Phil
Did I know that? The thing that happened to me happens.
Jeff
Well, it's. It happens all the Time. It's not.
Jeffrey
And you shouldn't take it personally because it's not a reflection of who you are or what you can offer in a relationship.
Brooke
I like it. That was a little spicy.
Jeff
And, Phil, if we can get her, I'm not going to bring up the age thing at all to her unless she says it first. Is that. Is that cool with you?
Brooke
Yeah. Well, because if it's not about the age, and why even bring it up.
Jeffrey
It shouldn't be because she, again, knows how old you are when you meet on a dating app, which I keep forgetting.
Brooke
It's not like you bombarded her, surprised her.
Phil
I was completely truthful about it.
Jeff
Okay, good. So I'd love to hear what excuse she has for not calling a great guy like you back. Let's figure it out. I'm gonna dial her number right now. Okay. Here we go.
Phil
Hello?
Jeff
Hey, we're looking to talk with Mandy.
Mandy
Who's this?
Jeff
This is a radio show called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning.
Jeffrey
Hey, Mandy.
Brooke
Hi. Good morning. Mandy.
Mandy
Hi.
Jeff
Hey, is it okay if we chat with you for a bit?
Mandy
I guess. I don't have a lot of time, but okay.
Jeff
Okay, well, this shouldn't take long because we're doing something called a second date update, and we're trying to help out one of our listeners that you went out with the other night. And we heard it was actually pretty fun. Fancy seafood date, good conversation, little tick tock action with a guy named Phil.
Mandy
Oh, no, not Phil.
Oh, yes.
Jeffrey
You mean, oh, yes, Phil.
Mandy
Look.
Jeff
Oh, no.
Brooke
K, N o W. Like, I know.
Jeff
Phil's a little bit bummed because you guys haven't arranged a second meetup.
Brooke
And.
Jeff
And if you don't want to, that's up to you, but it would really help him out if you could, like, give an explanation for why.
Jeffrey
Yeah, I mean, remember, this is a guy who's back in the dating world. He's learning some new things.
Jeff
You have to admit, he's a really nice guy, right?
Mandy
I guess.
Jeffrey
What do you mean, you guess?
Jeff
Yes.
Jeffrey
Was he genuine? Wasn't he nice on the date?
Mandy
I mean, I'm into dating older guys, but, yeah. Bill's picture, it was a lot younger than what? He made it out.
Jeffrey
Okay, so he was older than you would normally date.
Mandy
Basically.
Jeff
Okay, so maybe he chose an older photo of himself because he liked how he looked however many years ago, which I think a lot of people do. But yeah, I mean, we spoke to him, and, like, his personality seemed very vibrant and young.
Jeffrey
Really?
Brooke
Yeah.
Jeff
Oh, remember, Brock, like, photos aside, he's.
Mandy
On tick tock now.
Brooke
Yeah, he was chipper.
Jeff
Like, he sounds cool.
Mandy
Well, here's the weird thing. I was showing him how to do the tick tock, and he basically ordered a glass of milk.
Jeffrey
From who?
Jeff
Oh, my gosh.
Brooke
That's such an old guy.
Jeffrey
From the waiter or a child?
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Mandy
And the kids apologize for the battery being too low, and he pulls out a full fanny pack and large pack from the fanny pack, and.
Jeff
Oh, he carries a fanny pack.
Mandy
It was a super pack. Not just a tiny one. It was a super pack in the fanny pack.
Brooke
Anyone need a bandaid? Because I got everything.
Jeffrey
So he ordered milk and had a man fanny fanny pack.
Mandy
And then on top of all that, the waiter, he made a comment, like, a weird comment at the end.
Jeffrey
That was. That was really embarrassing for him.
Mandy
If I was waiting on that table, I would think the same thing.
Jeffrey
Oh, that's not a good response.
Brooke
Well, at least you know yours has a comb in his back pocket.
Mandy
What?
Brooke
Old guys, we keep a comb and.
Jeff
Like, a tube of grease to do your hair.
Jeffrey
He's not a grandfather, is he?
Jeff
Well, I don't know, but look.
Mandy
Well, he did start talking about my credit score and my ira.
Brooke
Hey, that's important no matter what age you are.
Mandy
Yeah, probably really good for my future, but, you know, that's not romantic.
Jeff
Okay, you're right. You're right.
Mandy
Older guys, he's just a little too.
Jeff
I guess.
It'S good that you're sharing this with us, because Phil really did need to hear, I think, some of those things, because you might. You might not know. He is on the other line right now listening to this phone call. Mandy.
Mandy
Oh, my gosh, not Phil.
Jeff
Yeah, no, it's. It's a good thing because he really did need to hear some of this stuff.
Jeffrey
Stuff that he's old. Like, why would anyone want to hear that?
Jeff
Jeff, he's new to online dating. He needs to learn, like, what to do and what not to do as.
Jeffrey
He goes forward in the what age brackets.
Mandy
He needs to pick going forward.
Jeff
Talk to Mandy. She's on the phone right now. You can have a conversation. Go ahead.
Phil
So you're making fun of my fanny pack on the radio?
Mandy
It's not about that. It was a big charger, and I feel like I like you.
Phil
It was a big charger. A lot can fit in that fanny pack.
Brooke
Oh, is that.
Jeffrey
Do you have it on right?
Jeff
Do you have it on right now?
Brooke
I don't know.
Jeff
Brook's getting turned on.
Jeffrey
What you got in your fanny pack, Phil?
Jeff
Okay. Phil, how did you feel hearing Mandy say all that just a moment ago?
Phil
I'm not going to lie. It hurt a little bit.
Jeffrey
Yeah.
Mandy
I'm sorry.
Phil
Some of that sounds a little unfair.
Jeff
Really?
Jeffrey
Like what? What part?
Jeff
Was the glass of milk cold or was it warm?
Phil
One glass of milk before seafood. Helps with the gut. What?
Jeffrey
Okay, I didn't mean for you to get into it, Phil.
Phil
I was.
Jeff
Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, we got it.
Jeffrey
We got it.
Jeff
We got it. Phil, it just sounds like maybe between you and Mandy, there wasn't so much romantic feelings going on. It was more like a father figure wanting to help a younger person out. That was the vibe that she was getting.
Phil
Yeah. So what do you want, Mandy? How do I. How do I be more romantic towards you?
Brooke
How do we shift a little bit here?
Jeff
Just have to think about it differently. Mandy, he's not an older guy. He's just. Classy.
Mandy
Sick.
Jeffrey
He's like the most interesting man in the world.
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Jeff
Sexy.
No, you got to look at it in a positive way. Like you will never get a 2am hey, you up? Text from Phil.
Mandy
But until he learns how to do that.
Jeff
Yeah, It'll come at 5:30, but that's fine.
Phil
You guys are supposed to be helping me. Help me get a date with her.
Jeff
Okay, we're trying. So we're just gonna ask Mandy. Phil seems like a really cool, nice guy. And you admit yourself that you like older men.
Brooke
Ye.
Mandy
Not that old.
Jeff
Well, we still don't know what that number is. And we would like to offer to send you out on another date with Phil that we pay for. Give Phil one more chance.
Mandy
You know what? As a wing woman, not any romance. No.
Jeff
All right?
Jeffrey
And you may need that right now. Listen, if you surround yourself with friends that are young, you look younger.
Brooke
Yeah.
Jeff
Brooke knows from experience, so there you go.
Brooke
Yeah, she hangs out with us all the time.
Jeffrey
I swear to God.
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Jeffrey
Well, I mean, if they're friends on the phone, I expected it.
Mandy
Sure got him a good date.
Brooke
Oh, yeah, here they are.
Jeff
Both of them are back to give us an update on their life.
Jeffrey
Do we call it a love life?
Jeff
I don't know. Like, are you two together now?
Mandy
No.
Phil
No, no.
Jeffrey
Even he said God, no.
Mandy
Not a relationship.
Jeff
All right, okay, okay. That's a bit clear.
Brooke
We got to the bottom of that.
Jeff
All right, well, last time we spoke to you, Mandy said she wouldn't date you, Phil, but she would wing woman for you. Did that happen?
Phil
Best wing woman ever.
Jeff
Best wing woman ever.
Jeffrey
Really? How so? What did. What did she do? What'd you do, Mandy?
Mandy
I definitely introduced him to my aunt Sadie.
Jeff
You introduced him to your aunt?
Jeffrey
That's aunt.
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Jeffrey
She's fancier than we are.
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I'm sorry.
Jeff
She's rich.
Jeffrey
Aunt Sadie is very wealthy.
Brooke
Oh, she doesn't like croissants.
Jeffrey
Dude, that's awesome. So wait, you hooked Phil up with your aunt?
Mandy
Yeah, definitely. It was a. I set him up really easily. I don't know about a wing woman.
Jeff
Okay, sounds like a wing woman.
Brooke
If you could get a date for.
Jeff
A friend or if you just passed her off to your aunt. How did it go?
Jeffrey
We had the details.
Brooke
Yeah.
Jeffrey
Phil, are you in a relationship with her aunt?
Phil
Oh, yeah.
Jeff
Wow.
Brooke
Call him uncle.
Phil
Let me tell you.
Mandy
Oh, my God.
Yeah.
Phil
And smoking hot.
Jeffrey
Smoking hot.
Jeff
Smoking hot.
Liberty Mutual Announcer
That's cute.
Brooke
Run of the family, huh?
Ryan Seacrest
All right.
Jeffrey
Is it awkward, like at a family thing when you know that you went on a date with your aunt's now boyfriend?
Mandy
Well, as weird as it seems, they're actually really cute together.
Actually, they came over for Thanksgiving this year and it was really fun.
Jeffrey
I bet he had his fanny pack full of Pepto Bismol ready to go.
Jeff
Phil, you dog.
Phil
Gotta stay prepared.
Jeffrey
That's such a cute story.
Jeff
Not the happy ending I saw coming, but it's much better than what I was envisioning.
Brooke
Happy ending.
Jeff
So congratulations.
Phil
There were some happy endings.
Jeff
Well, okay. So. All right.
Jeffrey
All right. Still a little drunk at the dinner table.
Mandy
It's got to be one.
He definitely checked out.
Jeff
So definitely keep us updated on what happens between Phil and your Aunt Sadie. And. Yeah, that's really cool.
Mandy
Do we need more updates?
Jeff
I don't think, you know, I don't think we need. Maybe just send it in like a text message to 78592.
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Uh, Limu is that guy with the binoculars watching us.
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Date: December 4, 2025
Podcast Host: iHeartPodcasts
In this “Second Date Update UPDATE,” the hosts reconnect with Phil and Mandy to revisit a memorable second date story steeped in awkward age differences, generational quirks, and a now-famous restaurant faux pas. The episode takes listeners through the original call (where Phil was ghosted by Mandy after a cringeworthy dinner), then provides a postscript: Are they dating now? What actually happened? Did anyone find romance? The show expertly mixes humor, light roast comedy, and genuine relationship insights as it follows the saga from uncomfortable first date to an unexpected family twist.
“We hope you and your daughter have enjoyed this meal.” (08:47 – Phil)
"I mean, I’m into dating older guys, but... Phil’s picture, it was a lot younger than what he made it out.” (14:23 – Mandy) “He basically ordered a glass of milk.” (15:05 – Mandy) “And he pulls out a full fanny pack and a large pack...[it] was a super pack in the fanny pack.” (15:11 – Mandy)
"One glass of milk before seafood helps with the gut." (17:33 – Phil)
“He did start talking about my credit score and my IRA. That’s not romantic.” (15:58 – Mandy)
"You admit yourself that you like older men." (18:30 – Jeff)
“As a wing woman, not any romance. No.” (18:51 – Mandy)
“Are you two together now?” (21:06 – Jeffrey)
“No, God no.” (21:10 – Phil)
“I definitely introduced him to my aunt Sadie.” (21:36 – Mandy)
“Phil, are you in a relationship with her aunt?” (22:05 – Jeffrey)
“Oh yeah... and smoking hot.” (22:08 – Phil)
“They came over for Thanksgiving this year and it was really fun.” (22:37 – Mandy)
On awkward age gaps:
"Mine was a Smith in ’89, when rock was real." (08:15 – Phil)
"And hers was... Ariana Grande." (08:20 – Phil)
When the waiter screws up:
“We hope you and your daughter have enjoyed this meal.” (08:47 – Phil)
On second date rejection:
“As a wing woman, not any romance. No.” (18:51 – Mandy)
Phil’s comeback:
“One glass of milk before seafood helps with the gut.” (17:33 – Phil)
On the update call:
“Are you in a relationship with her aunt?” (22:05 – Jeffrey)
“Oh yeah... and smoking hot.” (22:08 – Phil)
Hosts’ wrap-up banter:
“Not the happy ending I saw coming, but it’s much better than what I was envisioning.” (22:54 – Jeff)
| Time | Segment/Highlight | |-----------|------------------------------------------------| | 05:42 | Show intro to Phil & his age anxieties | | 08:47 | Restaurant “daughter” comment | | 09:49 | Phil describes ghosting and reaching out | | 11:52 | Hosts discuss social media and generational gaps| | 14:23 | Mandy’s honest feedback about Phil | | 15:11 | The infamous fanny pack moment | | 16:14 | Mandy: “He did start talking about my credit score…” | | 18:51 | Mandy offers to be Phil’s wingwoman | | 21:00 | The update: Phil and Mandy reunite on air | | 21:36 | Mandy introduces Phil to Aunt Sadie | | 22:08 | Phil and Aunt Sadie are officially together | | 22:37 | Mandy reports about Thanksgiving | | 22:54 | Hosts’ wrap-up reactions |
With playful roasting, classic Second Date Update awkwardness, and a dash of family matchmaking, the episode is lighthearted, self-deprecating, and genuinely warm. The hosts keep up their trademark banter, never missing an opportunity for a generational joke or affectionate ribbing.
Phil and Mandy weren’t meant to be, but with Mandy’s help, Phil found romance—with Mandy’s aunt Sadie. Sometimes, the second date isn’t the story you think you’re getting. Ages may be “just a bummer,” but in this update, everyone lands exactly where they belong.