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Narrator
Parents hauling luggage. Kids gripping their new Christmas toys. Then everything changed.
Brooke
There's been a bombing at the TWA terminal. Just a chaotic, chaotic scene.
Narrator
In its wake, a new kind of enemy emerged. Terrorism. Listen to the new season of law and criminal justice System on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
Brooke
Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor.
Drew Phillips
And I'm Drew Phillips and we run.
Brooke
A podcast called Emergency Intercom.
Drew Phillips
If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated adhd.
Brooke
Oh my God, perfect.
Drew Phillips
And want to hear people mental illness psychobabble.
Brooke
Yes, yes.
Drew Phillips
Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free iHeartRadio app, search emergency intercom and listen now.
Manny
Why are TSA rules so confusing?
Alexis
You got a hoodie on.
Brooke
Take it all.
Manny
I'm Manny.
Brooke
I'm Noah, this is Devin.
Manny
And we're best friends and journalists with a new podcast called no Such Thing where we get to the bottom of questions like that. Why are you screaming at me? I can't expect what to do now? If the rule was the same, go off on me. I deserve it. You know, Lock him up list. Listen to no Such thing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Brooke
No Such Thing.
Jeffrey
Betrayal Weekly is back for season two with brand new stories. The detective comes driving up fast and just like screeches right in the parking lot.
Brooke
I swear I'm not crazy, but I.
Laura
Think he poisoned me.
Jeffrey
I feel trapped. My breathing changes. I realize, wow, like, he is not a mentor, he's pretty much a monster. But these aren't just stories of destruction. They're stories of survival.
Laura
I'm gonna tell my story and I'M gonna hold my head up.
Jeffrey
Listen to Betrayal Weekly on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Yeah. I don't wanna say we're shocked when people stay together after they do a second date update with us, but it is always a little surprising.
Brooke
That's the point.
Laura
Yeah.
Jeffrey
Hey, it's Brick and Jeffrey and this is your second date podcast. Today we have an update update that means we will play you. So everybody's on the same page and then we're gonna have the couple back on the phone to hear what's happened since they were on the show.
Brooke
Yes.
Jeffrey
Yeah, you gotta stay through it all to hear it. And I'm sure there'll be at least one complaint in this that says this is a rerun. Yeah, yeah. Just wait till the end. Okay. And wait until after the ad. You're gonna hear a little ad right before.
Brooke
Yes, that too.
Jeffrey
We're preparing you for everything. You know what's ahead. It's brand new. What are some comments? Dan said, I hate my buddy for introducing me to the show and I hate myself for continuing to listen to it. Self loathing. We love that here. We do, really. Welcome to the show, Dan. Whether you like it or not, you're stuck with us. Yep. Your update update starts right now.
Alexis
Sometimes in the dating world, hearts can be broken. Other times, you're breaking literal bones and ligaments.
Jeffrey
I hope not.
Brooke
The heck.
Alexis
And that is a pretty close description of what happened when two of our listeners decided to go on a hike for their first meetup.
Jeffrey
Okay.
Alexis
It was a disaster date that turned into one of our most memorable calls of the year. And despite the events that unfolded that fateful day, the couples reached out saying they need to come back on the show for a special second date update update. You're going to hear it coming up right after this second date update. She's back.
Jeffrey
Oh, who's back?
Alexis
Return callers of the second date update.
Jeffrey
That's fun.
Alexis
Laura, you may remember her. She was the avid gym goer who roasted her date when she found out he tried to use a coupon at Nobu. Oh, yeah, because he claimed he didn't know that sushi could be that expensive.
Jeffrey
Wow. You came back, Laura.
Alexis
The thing about Laura, she's got high end taste and I'm guessing that she is totally worth it. But, you know, those types of ladies can be a little bit hard to please. And now there's another guy who's ghosting her. Probably because he's so intimidated by you, Laura. That's what I would guess. But welcome back to our show. It's nice to have you on.
Laura
Thank you.
Alexis
So apparently this is a new guy that you want us to call today, right? What's his name?
Laura
His name's Troy.
Jeffrey
Troy.
Alexis
Troy.
Jeffrey
With a big sigh. What's going on with Troy?
Laura
Okay, so I met this guy Troy. I was kind of like, on the down low for a little while and I was like, all right, I'm going to try this again.
Jeffrey
Okay. So, you know, took some time off of dating after having to recover from your experience with us.
Laura
From the Nobu coupon guy. Yeah.
Alexis
Good for you for deciding to get back out there.
Jeffrey
You meet Troy online on an app.
Laura
Yeah. And I like this profile because it shows him being, like, super active. He's, like, into swimming and other activities, hiking and things like that, and that's really important for me.
Alexis
He's like a big fan of a hundred dollar bills in his hand. Just, like, lofting himself with it.
Laura
No, it was just, like the activity stuff and, you know, his body. And his body.
Brooke
Oh, yeah.
Jeffrey
Okay. That was the only thing that Alexis just perked up to. Yeah, you're right. I should have thought about the swimming photo.
Brooke
Obviously, there's the body. Okay.
Laura
Oh, yeah.
Alexis
Hot body. Active Troy.
Brooke
Only thing that matters is.
Jeffrey
All right, so did you initiate conversation with him?
Laura
It was like a mutual thing, and we just kind of had good conversation and talked about working out.
Brooke
Nice.
Laura
So I found this thing online and it was the most incredible view and the perfect selfie spot.
Jeffrey
Okay. Okay. So you're picking your hiking based on the quality of picture you're going to get?
Laura
Of course. Because what girl doesn't want to look like a professional hiker standing on a rock?
Jeffrey
Yeah, right. Okay. But hiking's a fun activity. He's an active guy. Is that what you propose?
Alexis
No, no, no, no, no. It's about the Instagram photo, girl, not the hike.
Laura
So he was super down, and we had a really nice hike and the pictures came out amazing.
Jeffrey
Okay, so that's cute. You got cute pictures. Did you take pictures together?
Laura
Yeah, we did some selfies and then we took pics of each other and we got some really good shots.
Jeffrey
Cool.
Brooke
Nice.
Jeffrey
That sounds good. It sounds like you're pulled into it.
Brooke
So how did it end then?
Laura
Okay, so this is the fun part. On the way down, Troy slips, falls down and sprains his ankle.
Alexis
Probably saw, like, a cool chipmunk and he, like, didn't know where to step.
Jeffrey
I'm sure that's it. That's Terrible.
Laura
So basically, he can't walk down the mountain. So I didn't know what to do. I kind of had a little meltdown, and I was like, all right, let me see if my phone actually has service and I can call somebody to get help.
Brooke
Oh, okay.
Jeffrey
Okay.
Alexis
Were you able to reach someone you're.
Jeffrey
Going to call in park rangers or what?
Laura
I tried reaching out to a lot of people, like friends, emergency services. I mean, basically anyone who could, like, help get him down the mountain.
Brooke
Wow.
Jeffrey
Did someone come help?
Laura
Eventually, medics showed up and came and helped.
Jeffrey
Whoa.
Alexis
Wow.
Laura
But the good news is on that avenue that it wasn't, like, the perfect end to a perfect date, but at least we got to, like, sit and chat, and we had a ton of really intimate talk times while he's wincing in pain.
Brooke
No, we always say this, but this is another cute story where if things work out for you, it's kind of like, yeah, you sprained his ankle our first date.
Laura
Right.
Alexis
Right. And would you take more pictures of each other while he was sitting down on the ground? What else are you gonna do?
Brooke
Good lighting of the ankle.
Jeffrey
I mean, it's kind of wild that he hasn't. I'm assuming he hasn't at all.
Laura
Yeah, that's why I called because, like, he was talking a ton and now he's not talking at all. And I don't understand. And, like, if it's because he got hurt, that's really kind of dumb.
Brooke
He's not embarrassed because, like, getting hurt is an accident.
Jeffrey
I don't know. He could be like, if he's a.
Brooke
Big buff dude, you think he's like, oh, no, I slip on a rock.
Alexis
I mean, this is a little bit unlike our typical dates that we talk about on the show, where it's, like, really quick. You like coffee, chat, and then you're gone. This is the two of them sitting on a mountain together for an hour with nothing to do but talk.
Brooke
Yeah, that's true.
Alexis
And take pictures of each other. Was there any. Anything in the conversation that happened there that might be a little bit of a red flag for him?
Laura
I don't think so. I mean, we were talking about all different topics. Like, a lot of gym talk. You know, just experience in the gym and what kind of different activities we like and a little bit about family stuff. And, I mean, we weren't talking about, like, getting married and having kids, if that's what you mean.
Alexis
Oh, why not?
Jeffrey
Yeah. So you sprained your ankle. How many kids do you want to have?
Alexis
Well, okay, this is going to be an interesting one. We're going to call Troy for you and first, I mean, see if he answers the phone.
Jeffrey
Well, just see if he needs his little boo boos kissed. Yeah, maybe that's where she comes in.
Brooke
Uh oh, Brooke's gonna roast him.
Manny
Watch.
Jeffrey
Thank you, Alexis.
Laura
Maybe.
Alexis
Hopefully his phone is within reaching distance and we're gonna find out when we reach out right after this second date update.
Jeffrey
You're in the middle of a second date update update. And we're gonna find out how the couple is doing right after you hear part two.
Alexis
If you're just joining us, we're in the middle of a tense heart pumping ankle throbb update with Laura. Heart pumping cuz she went on a romantic mountain hike with a guy named Troy. Ankle throbbing cuz Troy fell and sprained his ankle on the walk down the hill.
Jeffrey
Poor Troy.
Alexis
It was so bad he couldn't make it down on his own. So Laura had to call out for help until medics could arrive. Stayed with him the whole time, kept him calm, gave him mouth to mouth. And after all of that, after saving his life and snatching him from the jaws of death, Troy has the gall to ghost her.
Jeffrey
Wow.
Brooke
Wow.
Jeffrey
Maybe she had bad breath during that mouth to mouth session.
Alexis
I don't care.
Brooke
I'm just gonna say it.
Alexis
Troy is a giant bee.
Jeffrey
Oh, oh, what's that bee sound?
Alexis
Big baby.
Brooke
Okay.
Alexis
And I am dying to hear what he has to say.
Jeffrey
Don't you die too, Jeff.
Alexis
What if any cute woodland animals he saw and has to report on the trail path. Laura, are you with me?
Laura
I don't think he's like a big baby. He got hurt. Come on.
Alexis
Oh gosh. So forgiving.
Jeffrey
Has anyone thought maybe he's upset that you talked all this big talk about the gym, but then we're too weak to piggyback him all the way back to the car.
Brooke
Oh come on, he's not gonna expect that. Yeah, or drag him down.
Laura
I don't know.
Jeffrey
I would have done it. My dad says I'm good German working stock. I'm built to carry heavy things. Relate to that.
Alexis
Why do you have to work that into every single second date update that we do?
Jeffrey
I will give the idea after this.
Alexis
We're not even going to bring that up to Troy if he answers the phone because we don't want to get too excited about it. But let's see if he picks up. We're going to dial his number right now. Here we go.
Laura
Thanks you guys.
Troy
Hello?
Alexis
Hey, is this Troy?
Troy
It is oh, Troy.
Jeffrey
Whoa, Jeff, you be nice. Hi, Troy.
Troy
Hello.
Brooke
Sorry, it's confusing.
Alexis
I'm just kidding, man. We're. We're doing something on our show. We hope you'll stick around and be a part of it. It's called Second Date Update.
Troy
Okay.
Jeffrey
Have you heard of that before?
Troy
No. No, I haven't.
Jeffrey
Okay.
Brooke
Okay.
Alexis
It's where we help out our listeners who have gone out on a date with somebody and a second meetup hasn't happened yet. We try and help facilitate it or figure out why the other person doesn't want to.
Troy
Okay.
Alexis
And that seems to be the situation, at least according to one of our listeners named Laura you met the other day.
Troy
She reached out to you.
Jeffrey
Yes. She's, like, worried, dude. It sounds like you had a crazy hike where you got injured. We heard all about it.
Troy
Yeah, she's been texting me a whole bunch. I don't. I don't know if I'm feeling it, to be honest with you. That's kind of why I didn't reach back out to her.
Brooke
She can sense that.
Alexis
Yeah.
Brooke
That's what she wants to know. Why?
Alexis
That's the confusing part to her, because she essentially saved you from the brink of death.
Jeffrey
She did not say that, Jeff. Exaggerated.
Alexis
I mean, I'm not saying that the thought crossed your mind to leave you on that mountain to fend for yourself, but she did do a lot to help.
Jeffrey
She did. After you sprained your ankle.
Troy
I think you guys have the story wrong, if that's what you guys really think happened.
Brooke
Okay, what do we have wrong?
Jeffrey
I mean, what did exaggerate?
Alexis
Well, sorry, you know, I'm just kidding.
Jeffrey
Yeah.
Alexis
I'm just frustrated because we're. We're friends of Laura's and we really just want to help her out. So if you could maybe explain your side of it.
Troy
Well, I don't know what she told you exactly, but my ankle was banged up. I mean, you guys are laughing about it, but it was pretty bad. Like, it was swollen immediately.
Brooke
I couldn't walk on it.
Jeffrey
She said that she felt really bad for you. I know we're laughing, but that's just because that's what we do, obviously.
Brooke
You could have walked. You couldn't even hobble, bro.
Jeffrey
Yeah, really bad. I mean, that's why she called everybody she knew. Got emergency services up there.
Troy
Yeah, kind of. She didn't have service or whatever, and neither did I, so she said she's gonna walk down the trail a little bit until she gets service. She disappeared for at least a half an hour. She came back, she was all excited, and I was like, okay, good. Did you find somebody on the trail? She said, no, no, no. I called an Uber.
Jeffrey
You don't need a car, someone to carry you down?
Alexis
So It's a joke.
Troy
100%. That's what I said to her. And she basically was like, oh, I didn't think about that. Like, yeah, they can't drive up the mountain to just come pick me up in the car. That's not how this works.
Jeffrey
Well, come on, give her. Give her the benefit. You know, some people don't think well in emergency situations.
Troy
Yeah, we were talking about it, and basically I was trying to advise her. Look, call EMTs, call emergency services. So she did do that, which is nice. And while we were sitting there waiting, she said that she figured out how to make, like, a homemade tourniquet for my leg.
Jeffrey
Okay.
Troy
She wanted to get some sticks and branches and wrap up my leg or something like that. Yeah, it was like being stuck out there with Nurse Ratchet in the mountains.
Alexis
Wait, like, she didn't do a good job?
Troy
Yeah, I didn't need a tourniquet. I had a sprained ankle, all right? I wasn't losing any blood or anything like that.
Alexis
Sure. But it couldn't hurt to have a tourniquet.
Jeffrey
It actually could hurt a lot. It cuts off your circulation.
Alexis
It was preventative. A preventative tourniquet just in case something got worse.
Jeffrey
I mean, at the end of the day, she's trying. She's not a medical expert. Expert. She's doing her best. You can't even give her that.
Troy
Yeah, no, her best was just shockingly bad, that's all. Maybe.
Alexis
Okay, well, I feel like maybe she was panicked, a little freaked out in the moment, just like you were doing whatever she could think of to try and help you out. And you don't have to take that from me. You can listen to Laura right now because she's on the other line waiting to talk to you.
Troy
Wait, are you serious? She's been listening the whole time?
Alexis
Yeah, that's how the segment works, man. Sorry.
Laura
Hey, Troy. Yeah, it's me, Nurse Ratchet.
Jeffrey
How you doing?
Laura
How you feeling?
Brooke
Wow, she's really a nurse.
Jeffrey
Yeah.
Alexis
Probably say sorry now, huh?
Jeffrey
She should not apologize.
Alexis
No, him. Him. For calling her Nurse Ratchet.
Troy
Come on, Laura. You know, it was being. You were in charge of the water. I mean, what was going on with the water? You remember that?
Jeffrey
What was she doing with the water?
Laura
I'm sorry. I was in charge of bringing water on the hike, and I. I Got a smoothies instead.
Brooke
What?
Alexis
Well, that's nice.
Laura
I. I drank my smoothie and then it was, like, so yummy that I wound up drinking Troy Smoot because I figured there was an easy hike and we'd be down the mountain pretty quickly, and then I could just get water when we got to the bottom. No big deal.
Troy
Nurse Ratchet, when she needed the extra.
Alexis
Nutrients to go search for help, he was just sitting there on the ground.
Laura
I'm not, like, the best outdoorsman or outdoors woman or whatever you call it. I'm not a lumberjack. I'm not a medic. Like, I did what came to mind in the spur of the moment. And also, like, some Ubers do have four wheel drive, so, like, that part's not on me.
Troy
This again? The four wheel drive thing again? Come on. No, they don't.
Brooke
It's a good.
Jeffrey
Troy, does that mean you already brought up that point while you guys are on the mountain?
Troy
We talked about it for, like, 10 minutes already when we were on the mountain.
Alexis
It's gonna be a hummer. They can get all over, like, every type of terrain, bro.
Brooke
This is at least endearing that she's just trying. It's not working. We get it.
Jeffrey
But she's cute. She's cute. She's got good energy. Come on.
Laura
Thank you, Laura.
Troy
I. I will say, if you do go outdoors with any of your friends or family, God help them.
Jeffrey
With a hurt ankle.
Alexis
That's a really sweet thing to say. He basically blessed her and her entire family whenever they go on adventures together. Troy, I'm feeling some sort of shift in you, like, you're wanting to say yes to another date with Laura. Especially when we offer to pay for it.
Laura
I mean, we can, like, go to the city and, like, rent a scooter. I'm pretty sure both of us can fit on it.
Alexis
Oh, yeah, Maybe make a, like, reservation at the ER ahead of time, before the date happens.
Jeffrey
Is that how the works now?
Alexis
Just in case, you know, get your reservation in early?
Troy
Look, I don't want to be Mr. Pessimistic, so if we can keep it inside. I did have a good time with you in the moments where I wasn't dying. So, yeah, let's give it another shot. That sounds fun.
Jeffrey
That's kind of cute.
Alexis
Troy. You're going on a date with Nurse Ratchet. Good for you.
Troy
I hope not. Oh, my God, I hope.
Laura
And I'll bring my tourniquet.
Jeffrey
Well.
Alexis
Oh, wow.
Jeffrey
He's not bleeding.
Alexis
I think it's kind of a freaky thing that she's into you guys. Have fun. Okay.
Jeffrey
Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
Alexis
December 29, 1975. LaGuardia Airport.
Narrator
The holiday rush. Parents hauling luggage, kids gripping their new Christmas toys. Then at 6:33pm, everything changed.
Brooke
There's been a bombing at the TWA terminal.
Troy
Apparently there's the explosion actually impelled metal glass.
Brooke
The injured were being loaded into ambulances. Just a chaotic, chaotic scene.
Narrator
In its wake, a new kind of enemy emerged. And it was here to stay. Terrorism, law and criminal justice system is back. In season two, we're turning our focus to a threat that hides in plain sight that's harder to predict and even harder to stop. Listen to the new season of law and criminal justice System on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Dakota
My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious.
Brooke
Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit.
Dakota
Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the ok Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.
Alexis
Now, hold up.
Brooke
Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate.
Dakota
Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor. And they're the same age.
Brooke
Tends even more likely that they're cheating.
Dakota
He insists there's nothing between them.
Alexis
I mean, do you believe him?
Dakota
Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet.
Brooke
So do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not?
Dakota
Not to hear the explosive finale, listen to the okay Storytime podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Alexis
Well, that second date update happened months ago. Yes, and now Troy and Laura are back to give us an update on their situation.
Jeffrey
Oh, I can't wait.
Brooke
First.
Alexis
Hey, fancy meeting you two here. Welcome back to the show.
Troy
Hi.
Laura
Thank you. So good to be back.
Jeffrey
No one's broken, right? Everybody's bodies are working the way they should.
Brooke
That's a normal question.
Troy
Well, yeah, everything's functional. We're all good.
Brooke
Ok, good.
Alexis
That's good to hear. So what's new in your relationship? What's happened since we last spoke to you?
Laura
So, as you remember, we had a little trouble on the mountain last time. But we decided for the next couple of days that we would stay indoors. And we did.
Brooke
Good.
Jeffrey
So I like that he gave up on his interests of the outdoors and just went inside for you.
Brooke
Yeah. There's indoor climbing now.
Alexis
He lives in a bubble. That's so sweet.
Laura
I eventually enticed him to go back outside.
Jeffrey
Oh, you did? That's what I want to know. How did that go?
Laura
Well, I did, in fact, find another fantastic selfie spot.
Jeffrey
Oh, I was worried. That's what I've been stressed about.
Brooke
Yeah.
Alexis
So I'm hoping. I mean, we're all hoping that nothing bad happened on that date that required medical attention, right?
Troy
No, everything went good. Good news. We definitely didn't need to call the mps. Unfortunately, we did have to call the cops by the end of the evening.
Alexis
Wait, what?
Brooke
What?
Jeffrey
Why?
Alexis
Why?
Troy
Well, we got back from the hike, and somebody broke into our car.
Jeffrey
I hate that that's the words. It happens all the time. Does it? Yeah, the trail heads. You can't leave anything in your car.
Alexis
Or Brooke will open your car and take it. Was anything taken from your car?
Laura
Well, no. Luckily, nothing was stolen. I mean, I had my little purse with me and my selfie stick, so everything was good there.
Alexis
Take all the values.
Jeffrey
Good.
Alexis
Okay, so you two sound like you're in a pretty good place.
Troy
Yeah, everything is going pretty good. But we signed up for a EMT CPR class together.
Brooke
Oh, that's a great idea.
Jeffrey
Smart. I thought for sure she was gonna enroll you in how to take a good selfie class.
Alexis
That's probably next, right?
Troy
Yeah, that's definitely next.
Alexis
Okay, well, awesome to hear that you two are still together and having a good time and planning for the future dates not to get in too much trouble.
Jeffrey
Planning for the future dates and future accidents. Ye are going to be prepared either way.
Alexis
Definitely. Keep us updated, stay in touch, and appreciate you guys reaching out.
Laura
Thank you.
Troy
Will do. Thank you, guys.
Alexis
December 29, 1975. LaGuardia Airport.
Narrator
The holiday rush. Parents hauling luggage. Kids gripping their new Christmas toys. Then everything changed.
Brooke
There's been a bombing at the TWR terminal. Just a chaotic, chaotic scene.
Narrator
In its wake, a new kind of enemy emerged. Terrorism. Listen to the new season of law and criminal justice System on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Brooke
Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor.
Drew Phillips
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Brooke
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Drew Phillips
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Brooke
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Drew Phillips
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Brooke
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Drew Phillips
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Manny
Why are TSA rules so confusing?
Alexis
You gotta hoodie on. Take it off.
Manny
I'm Manny.
Troy
I'm Noah.
Brooke
This is Devin.
Manny
And we're best friends and journalists with a new podcast called no Such Thing, where we get to the bottom of questions like that. Why are you screaming? I can't expect what to do now if the rule was the same, go off on me.
Brooke
I deserve it, you know?
Alexis
Lock him up.
Manny
Listen to no Such thing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Brooke
No Such Thing.
Jeffrey
Betrayal Weekly is back for season two with brand new stories. The detective comes driving up fast and just, like, screeches right in the parking lot.
Brooke
I swear I'm not crazy, but I.
Laura
Think he poisoned me.
Jeffrey
I feel trapped. My breathing changes. I realize, wow, like, he is not a mentor. He's pretty much a monster. But these aren't just stories of destruction. They're stories of survival.
Laura
I'm gonna tell my story, and I'm gonna hold my head up.
Jeffrey
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Brooke
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Date: September 4, 2025
Hosts: Brooke, Jeffrey, Alexis
Featured Callers: Laura and Troy
This episode of Brooke and Jeffrey’s "Second Date Update" delivers a sequel to one of their most memorable (and accident-prone) stories. After Laura and Troy’s disastrous hiking date—featuring both a sprained ankle and some questionable mountain-side first aid—the hosts check back in with the couple to see where things stand months later. The show blends humor, light ribbing, and authentic dating awkwardness, providing listeners with laughs and an encouraging follow-up on a wildly imperfect first date.
[03:47]–[18:21]
The Meet-Cute Goes Awry:
Disaster Strikes:
Did Laura Handle the Emergency Well?
Why Troy Ghosted:
Reconciliation:
[20:18]–[22:44]
Checking In:
Relationship Progress:
Their Unlucky Sequel:
Newfound Preparedness:
On Motivation for the Hike:
Troy’s Reason for Ghosting:
Hosts on Laura’s Heroics:
Relationship Status Update:
The episode is a feel-good journey from disaster date to unlikely couple. After an accident-filled hike and a mountain of misunderstandings, Laura and Troy prove that mishaps—when met with humor—can spark lasting connections. Their story has expanded from “whoops” to “let’s do better next time,” culminating in real steps to be more prepared (first-aid class!) and, more importantly, to laugh together. The Second Date Update, true to form, celebrates the messiness of modern dating and the small victories and LOLs along the way.